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Kelli (00:00.77)
Hi, welcome to We Wine whenever I'm Callie.

Lori (00:03.201)
And I'm Laurie.

Kelli (00:05.006)
Tonight we're talking about Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip Season 5, Roaring 20th, Episode 5, to Peach Her Own. Before we start, we'd like to ask you to please subscribe to our YouTube, follow us on all of our socials, and comment and engage. We love that.

So we're back at the alter ego party. Ashley and Portia are talking, and she and then Teresa senses something's going on with Lisa and her castmates from Salt Lake City, and Teresa says she remembers that the first time she was on Ultimate Girls Trip, it might have been the first Ultimate Girls Trip that she and Melissa were on together. It was like two people from each cast, I think. I d I don't know.

Lori (00:30.041)
Yes, yes.

Lori (00:55.261)
that's a cute idea two people from each cast. I like that.

Kelli (00:55.362)
But sh

Yeah, she and Melissa were on together. it was when they were, you know, getting it was when she first started dating Louis, so they were getting along. Louis didn't fuck everything up at this point. So, but anyway, Teresa says she remembers the first time she was on Ultimate Girls Trip. Kenya Moore had her back because Ramona was being Ramona and Ramona's horrible.

Lori (01:08.418)
huh.

Lori (01:20.291)
Yeah, didn't didn't she say something about a scarecrow? I can't I can't I can't say anything about that because I kind of agree. She's not the sharpest tool in the chair. But listen, Ramona is no, you know, Aristotle herself. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (01:23.724)
Yes, because you know

Kelli (01:32.802)
Well, she's not the sharpest tool in the shed, Teresa, let's face it. But

Kelli (01:41.463)
Rocket scientist. Exactly. She does have successful businesses that she did start on her own at a very young age, way before Housewives. She is an established, you know, entrepreneur. But you know, she's not setting the world on fire either. So Teresa wants to be that girl for Lisa Barlow and basically recruits Drew Sodora. And Drew's like, Listen, if I'm getting camera time, I'm down with that.

Lori (01:57.931)
No, no.

Lori (02:05.037)
Yes.

I'll do whatever you want, right. I'll do whatever you want.

Kelli (02:11.808)
I don't have to throw myself on the ground and say so say somebody tripped me like I did in the Atlanta finale. I'm good. Candace rolls up on the photographer, Derek Blanks, and he tells her, She looks like she won the alter ego. He likes her costume the best, apparently. And then in her confessional, Giselle says, I forgot Candace was even here. No, you didn't, Giselle.

Lori (02:19.446)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (02:38.102)
I didn't.

Kelli (02:39.04)
You are so bothered. You are so bothered by Candace. You can't you can't see straight. You're so bothered by her. Marlo Hampton shows up as Cruella in a very elaborate dress. She looked great.

Lori (02:45.846)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Lori (02:53.952)
I saw on someone's social media post, they were kinda like critiquing whether somebody like passed or failed with the alter ego like costumes. And the way they were explaining it and once they did it kind of makes sense. Like they felt like Ashley really hit it, that this Marlowe really hit it, that in her in her costume were like pieces of paper

from like news articles like about her and then the person who did fifty cent. But so their their point was is that it's not supposed to be like your alter ego is some, you know, rock star that you can never be. It's supposed to show like it's it's supposed to be like a real part of yourself that you kinda kinda hide. You push down. Yeah. And even

Kelli (03:28.696)
Yeah.

Cynthia.

Kelli (03:42.124)
Right, dreamt up version of yourself.

Kelli (03:49.464)
push down. I agree. I that's what I thought it should be, yeah.

Lori (03:52.941)
And even though Yeah, and even though Marlo and when I first looked at her outfit, I'm like, What in the hell is she wearing? But then when they explained it like how she it was like a nod to Cruella, but she didn't have on like a Dalmatian coat, it was like the half hair was just like half of our personal so it was like a little more in depth. But her booba dadoobas were gonna pop out.

Kelli (04:21.442)
This is how Atlanta does it. Atlanta and Potomac. They they put their breasts in the most uncomfortable positions in dresses. I don't understand it. They both do it, Atlanta and Potomac. They smushed them down halfway so the rest are popping out. It looks so uncomfortable and painful. They're the real heroes. You know, not all heroes wear capes.

Lori (04:23.384)
Pop out.

Lori (04:30.316)
Well right, right, right. All jacked up there and

Lori (04:37.228)
Yeah, yeah.

Lori (04:44.054)
Yes, just bizarre. And I really thought that Yes. That's right. Somewhere boustiers. I th really Cynthia with the fifty cent I really thought it was a guy.

Kelli (04:51.416)
That's right.

Kelli (04:56.782)
She is hot AF as fifty cent.

Lori (05:00.182)
I really thought it was a guy. I was like

Kelli (05:01.92)
I mean, I honestly thought Luann was gonna try to bring her home and I don't doubt that she did not.

Lori (05:07.66)
Yeah, well, who knows with Luann, you know.

Kelli (05:09.826)
Yeah. Well, Portia shades Marlo and says, I don't really know Marlo. Did we film together? And then they flash back to all the times they filmed together. So again, the more you say you're unbothered, the more we know you're bothered. Lisa asks Mary to go get a drink with her. it's I'm glad to at least see that Lisa and Mary right now are are in a good place. I don't know

Lori (05:25.917)
Right, right.

Lori (05:37.485)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:38.669)
Now, of course, this is what Bravo's gonna do to us. So New York started last night, and then Salt Lake City is starting in a couple of weeks. And then apparently we got Potomac coming out soon too. So I I hate when they shove them all down our throats. Like filter them out throughout the year, whatever. Sprinkle it. But

Lori (05:51.731)
All in right. All in one.

Sprinkle it, sprinkle it. And Luann and Heather with their big French cigarette bullshit.

Kelli (06:05.358)
Yeah, Heather is so ridiculously annoying on this show. in her confessional, Lisa says there are major trust issues with her cast, and she doesn't really want to see them tonight. And honestly, I don't blame her. You and I talked about this last night. I am a little annoyed that this season of Ultimate Girls Trip is involving beef from the, you know.

Lori (06:06.232)
This is so

Mm.

Kelli (06:34.58)
specific franchises. I don't wanna see that on an Ultimate Girls trip. I just honestly wanna see Housewives from

Lori (06:36.376)
Uh-huh.

No, that's that's kinda like the point the yeah, the point of it is like

Kelli (06:44.258)
Just to see how they interact with other housewives from different franchises.

Lori (06:46.776)
Girls having girls having fun, especially girls of a certain age. I like to see that. And it's a nice break from all the who did what and who said what and what can we make from like what you know Molehill into a mountain kind of a thing. So it's nice to see.

Kelli (06:52.067)
Right.

Kelli (06:58.702)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (07:07.704)
Yeah, it's very it's very annoying. And you know, it's just it just it's bringing the cast drama into the trip and and it's not it's not enjoyable. And and then Lisa says that the Salt Lake City reunion is airing while they're on the trip and obviously listen, whether you like Lisa or not, she you know, yeah Well, if you don't like her, you're not gonna feel bad for her, but she had it pretty rough at the reunion.

Lori (07:34.04)
I don't feel bad.

Kelli (07:37.012)
I know, y I know. I mean I feel like she left there with no friends except Meredith, which I don't I mean.

Lori (07:38.69)
I don't. I don't.

Lori (07:44.003)
Yeah. Well listen, Heather is just so jealous that and and she went to that party and she drank too much and she tried to produce and she tried and you know what? That's exactly what production wanted. That is exactly why they picked Lisa. That's that's why they picked her. So

Kelli (07:45.917)
Kelli (07:51.659)
Absolutely.

Kelli (07:58.959)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (08:08.632)
Lisa. Yep. Yep. Totally agree. So then Z the Kim Zolsiak shows up. Now, I don't know if you've been following this at all, but

Lori (08:19.35)
I know her son's in there's something with her son messed up.

Kelli (08:22.316)
Wow. There are allegedly, this is all alleged, but there are some serious allegations out there against her son. he is being held without bail, and he's a minor. So that leads me to believe that these allegations could could there could be some, you know, merit behind them. But this is all alleged.

Lori (08:43.51)
Yes, that's not good.

Kelli (08:51.66)
And listen, I pray for everyone involved because this is n you know, n nobody should have to go through this. But damn, I don't want to talk about it anymore. Sheree and Lisa Woo show up. So now you got Lisa Wu, Sheree, Kim Zolziak, and when Nini comes out.

Lori (09:17.442)
But listen, how about Nene? She

Kelli (09:19.042)
They're all O they're all season one Atlanta.

Lori (09:22.382)
She's on fire. She made the big entrance at the at the lips. And she made the big entrance on this on the couch. Like she was a bride in an Indian wedding.

Kelli (09:25.653)
Nene. they're basically announcing she's coming back to Atlanta.

Kelli (09:36.15)
yeah, for sure.

Lori (09:37.294)
Cleopatra. Yes. But she had two of them. I was like, whoa.

Kelli (09:41.449)
Mm. So Porsche's announcing that she wanted the OGs from Atlanta. in the meantime, Vicky is telling Kim she's exhausted and she wants to leave. And then in her confessional she says she doesn't know why she's there. She feels invis in invisible.

Go talk to people, Vicky.

Lori (10:04.322)
Well, this is this is I think this is a thing with Vicky. Okay. So I think she's having a little tit for tat with the boyfriend. He's like, You gotta slow down. I wanna travel, but I'm not gonna slow down and blah blah blah. So she got the opportunity to come back on these two shows and she thought that she was gonna be

the Nene in the room. And I think she was doing it to try and be like, Well, you're not gonna tell me what to do because this is me. And I think and I think it it backfired in two ways. I think it backfired with the boyfriend because she talked him into going on and now it's a shit show. And it backfired because she thought she was gonna be all that and she is not

Kelli (10:35.342)
I totally agree with you.

Kelli (10:50.414)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (11:03.03)
And then this is her like toddler reaction behavior to those things.

Kelli (11:10.584)
I totally agree. I think she thought she was gonna come back and everybody was gonna be falling all over her and instead now they're falling all over Nene, but you're you're you're like a what's that word like curmungeon, like a curmudgeon? Curmungeon, yeah. Like you're so cranky. And you're you're acting like an old lady, quite honestly. Which like when did that happen? Like it d a d despite the number, like you're acting like a cranky old lady.

Lori (11:21.015)
A wet rag.

Curmudgeon. Mm-hmm. Curmudgeon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's

Lori (11:31.554)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Lori (11:40.13)
Yeah, it's just it's horrible. Right, yeah.

Kelli (11:40.738)
So what the fuck did you want to come back for? On both shows, you sucked.

Lori (11:46.143)
Suck horribly.

Kelli (11:47.777)
Yeah. And I and I always liked Vicky. I never really had a problem with Vicki. I don't think. So yeah, Nene comes in carried by some big muscle men and she gets up to speak and she says it is an honor and a privilege to be in the room with all these women. And then she says we could not have done Atlanta without Kim Zolsiak and Sheree Whitfield.

Lori (12:01.366)
Yeah, I love it.

Kelli (12:15.106)
And there's Lisa Wu sitting there like, hello, I was on season one too.

Lori (12:20.45)
Yeah, but Portia was up there with Nene and mentioned her. She did.

Kelli (12:25.304)
She did. I think after she realized that Nene didn't mention her, she did mention her. and then Nene goes over to give Kim a hug, which I was I I was wondering. I don't I you never know where they left off, Kim and Nene, because they were good, they weren't good. They were good, they weren't good. So and Lisa walks over and asks Nene why she didn't mention her in her speech. And Nene says in a you know very blase way that she forgot.

Lori (12:30.657)
okay.

Lori (12:40.462)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (12:54.752)
And then Lisa continues to talk and says, you know, respect is respect. And Nene's like, Do I need to say it again? I forgot in Nene's way. And that's when you know to shut it down.

Lori (13:04.972)
Yeah. Cause she's basically just Yeah, she's just saying like she she did it the same thing with what do you call it? Yeah with Giselle at the at the lips place. She's just like I'm not doing it. Like I'm not going I'm not doing it.

Kelli (13:20.376)
Listen, Nene completely one hundred percent did not say Lisa's name on purpose. Absolutely. But she'll never admit it.

Lori (13:27.308)
Right.

Right. But she's still but she's still not good. She's just like I'm not gonna I'm not doing it. I'm not gonna discuss it. I'm not gonna have some argument with you so you can get the camera time because it's

Kelli (13:40.963)
Right. 'Cause Lisa's still talking and Nene says, Stop saying things that don't make sense. She said you didn't say her name, and you did not say her name. So what she's saying does make sense. So Nene has not changed at all. She's gonna be the big, you know, bull come you know, when she comes back that she was when she left.

Lori (13:42.145)
She's

Lori (14:00.716)
Right, right, right. She gonna be the big junkyard dog.

Kelli (14:04.79)
Yeah. And Sheree's like, just acknowledge that you may have hurt her feelings. And Nene's not doing that. So then we see Ashley tells Luann that Ralph from Love Hotel hit her up yesterday and asked her to go to Barcelona with him. And Luann's like, Great, go. And she's like, I can. I have two little kids. Candace meets Sway, Porsche's partner, and Portia is explaining that she's Lucy and

Candice is like, Well who's who's Ricky? And she's like, No, she's Frankie. But there's no Frankie.

Lori (14:42.274)
Lord, Lord, Lord Ricky, it's Ricky, Ricky Ricardo. Come on.

Kelli (14:49.472)
And his name was Desi Arnez. S it wasn't Frankie. There was no Frankie. There was Desi and Ricky.

Lori (14:54.766)
There was no Frank. There was no Frank Yeah. There was no Italians. There's no Italians. No Frank.

Kelli (15:00.098)
Ha ha

Derek J is there. He was so when Atlanta started, there were quite there were quite a few gay best friends on Atlanta, and Derek J. was one of them. And I also think he was a hairdresser for a few of the ladies. there was Dwight and Derek J. And then there was another one, and I can't remember his name, but they were always fun to watch. They were great, great TV.

Lori (15:26.85)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (15:31.149)
Lisa's talking to Robin Dixon, who unfortunately is coming back to Potomac. I'm not excited about that. I I'm not a fan. and Lisa's telling Robin that she's compartmentalizing because she's trying to have fun with the ultimate girls housewives, but then her castmates are here starting some nonsense with her. And then Angie brings Mary a drink, and she clearly does it on purpose to try to see if Lisa's gonna say hello to her, and that gets very awkward.

Lori (16:00.023)
Mm.

Kelli (16:00.193)
And Teresa swooped right in to have Lisa's back. Did you notice that? She was right there. Yeah.

Lori (16:03.659)
yes. She was on a mission. She was on a mission, Teresa.

Kelli (16:08.366)
Kelli (16:13.132)
Yeah. yeah, I I I I have again in my notes that I just why I'm not I'm in my again in my notes I'm like I just I don't want like the other like the franchise drama on Ultimate Girls Trip. I don't like this at all.

Lori (16:15.278)
And then the

Lori (16:24.587)
Mm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Like they did the flashback. Yeah.

Kelli (16:27.544)
But you know, we did have it at in O C, but we didn't well, we didn't really have it with Beverly Hills.

Lori (16:33.642)
No. We did the flashback to the reunion where you know, Whitney and Angie are saying stuff about Lisa getting a facelift. Listen, if that's the worst thing somebody says about you, I think you're okay. You know what I mean? Like, don't get all jacked up because they're saying stuff about your facelift or your face is so lifted, whatever. Remember Angie said something rude too?

Kelli (16:55.864)
Well

Whitney said

It's because Whitney said she thinks she got a facelift and and she Whitney was like, There's a lot of doctors in Miami and and Angie did make a comment like not good one, like, well she didn't get a good one or something. I mean, that's an saying somebody got a facelift is one thing. Saying they got a bad facelift is another. Yeah. Heather comes over. Lisa says like this is some mean girl shit. And Heather comes over. Heather was obviously drunk.

Lori (17:12.278)
Right. And get a good one, yeah.

Lori (17:17.42)
Right, saying that is a is another this is true, this is true.

Kelli (17:31.852)
Right.

Lori (17:32.939)
Obviously.

Kelli (17:34.188)
She's like, mean girl shit, you mean the way you treat me? I agree. I agree. So she's just acting a fool to get on camera. And Heather says, I never accused you of having a facelift.

Lori (17:43.074)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (17:49.261)
Your face looks too good. I just think your face looks too good. Nobody's face can look that good. Listen, it's Lisa Barlow. She goes to sleep in glam. That's why she looks good.

Kelli (18:00.461)
Right. She's I'm sure she's using the best of the best creams and potions and getting her Botox and you know, obviously she's taking care of herself. And like you said, who cares if she got a facelift? I listen, if she got a facelift, just admit it, but I thought she was more bothered by the fact that they said it was a bad doctor who did it.

Lori (18:03.936)
I'm sure, I'm sure, yeah. Lotions, yeah. Yep, bull her shit.

Lori (18:20.342)
Right, right. Yeah, I forgot you said that.

Kelli (18:22.882)
But this was the hip this was the hypocrisy I was waiting for. Theresa's like what Heather is saying is false accusations and that hurts people's lives.

Lori (18:35.649)
Okay.

Kelli (18:36.062)
you mean like all the false shit you said about John Futa and everybody else on your cast? I mean, this was the hypocrisy I was waiting for. But we'll move it on. Portia says Lisa is here representing Salt Lake City and her castmates are coming after her, and Heather brings up what Lisa said about Angie Kay's husband being in a circle jerk, and Kyle and Teresa have no idea what a circle jerk is.

Lori (18:41.152)
Mm, mm hmm. Yeah.

Lori (18:45.932)
Yeah, you knew it was coming.

Lori (19:05.762)
That's so funny. And I love Teresa and her confessional. She says, what's a circle jerk? I guess that goes on in Utah. I don't know what it is. And how about when yeah, Giselle said she thought Vicky was a nun. That was

Kelli (19:15.372)
Yeah. She's like, That don't happen in Jersey.

Kelli (19:23.93)
But I loved when Kyle said, We're like monks in Beverly Hills 'cause she didn't know what Circle Jerk was.

Lori (19:27.874)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's great.

Kelli (19:32.11)
Kyle says Lisa has always been sweet to her, but she's tired of playing referee with these women. Yeah.

Lou tells Cynthia she's having the best time, but Vicki's being a drip. And then they panda Vicki like rolling her eyes at the camera.

Kelli (19:51.915)
Then Nene and Marlo are speaking. And again, you never know where they left off. Nene says to Marlo, You haven't talked to me at all. She says it's been months. And then they flash back to them arguing at lunch. And then at their lunch, whatever they were arguing about, Marlo apologizes and Nene apologizes back. And then they both agree that when they were filming together, they were the best group. They were a good group.

Lori (19:57.679)
Mm.

Kelli (20:19.99)
I probably stopped watching Atlanta after after that. I didn't watch Atlanta for years. Lisa talks to Kyle and Vicky starts to cry. And Lisa's like my castmates can't be happy for me. But V Vicky, what was Vicky crying about? She was like I'm invisible.

Lori (20:24.685)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (20:42.926)
I don't even know. I don't even know. It's you're d making yourself invisible. You're sitting there like a turd in the fucking punch ball. Not talking to anybody. You know, people can tell when you're nobody you know, you're giving off that bad energy. Like you're uncomfortable, so go in the bathroom, rip your wig off, throw some lipstick on, have a have a drink and talk some shit with some people. That's all you gotta do.

Kelli (20:52.694)
Exactly.

Kelli (21:05.142)
Right. Just take the wig off if you don't like it.

Kelli (21:11.106)
Right. Right. Stop acting like you're above it. You're definitely not above it.

Lori (21:14.7)
Yeah.

It was funny, when Lisa said, Vicky cannot do anything as a brunette and that it totally killed her vibe.

Kelli (21:21.58)
Yes. Yes. There are a lot of things Vicky can do as a blonde, but she could do nothing as a brunette.

Lori (21:28.224)
Yes, yes, that was great.

Kelli (21:30.19)
Giselle brought her Potomac girls over, everybody except for Candace, of course. And then they reminisce about things that have gone on. And while they're doing that, Candace walks over and she's like, of course you would leave me out. Now, then they flash to Giselle, Ashley, and Robin delivering a fake pizza to Karen's house because they didn't think Karen really lived there. Giselle said she talked to Karen and Karen wants to baby step back into all things housewives.

And Stacy with the number one question of the night, hey, why aren't we saying anything about Giselle's early days on Potomac? because there's nothing to say, Stacy. Giselle brings absolutely zero to the show. Er any story Yep. Yeah, bullshit. Any storyline Giselle ever had was fake and phony and full of baloney. Like when she was supposedly getting back together with the ex-husband.

Lori (22:13.74)
Mm-hmm. And Ashley the backup was like, but you're the glue.

Kelli (22:28.87)
Stupid, stupid nonsense. Teresa goes to check on Vicky and Vicky says she feels ugly and she wants to leave. And in her confessional, she says she wasn't talking to anybody and nobody was talking to her. and then basically we end the night. She leaves, though. Vicky left early, right?

Lori (22:44.92)
She is she is she is really a very highly insecure person.

Kelli (22:54.112)
She is and what's funny is how they're calling her or Emily called her a Debbie Downer on the OC and she's definitely being a Debbie Downer on this show.

Lori (23:02.645)
she's definitely fulfilling that prof prophecy. Absolutely.

Kelli (23:06.434)
Yep. Yeah. So she did leave early. The next morning we see all the ladies are on the bus, they have to get to the airport to go to Miami. Lisa's late to the bus.

Lori (23:19.606)
And the the true colors come.

Kelli (23:24.322)
Did they say how late was

Lori (23:26.51)
Well I was trying to figure this out. Okay, so this is it. So there's a snowstorm coming so they're waiting for Lisa. So they they show that it's

I think they were supposed to leave three hours before the flight. Okay? So Lisa ended up being thirty minutes late. So you know, so Giselle asks, you know, Lisa, why are you late? And she said, I'm not gonna answer that and Giselle's like, Why? It's rude as fuck and Giselle tells her to apologize to the group and Lisa says, I don't need any directive and Kyle asked her if she got glam this morning.

And she said, yes. And she's been up since four thirty packing. And then she blames it on the makeup artist that the makeup artist had some things in the room and she had to wait for her, which is bullshit. You could have made arrangements with the hotel to leave her stuff in your room and go. So I was like, Wait, wait, wait. So the flight was at eleven.

Kelli (24:24.354)
Yes. Yes.

Lori (24:34.252)
Why did you need to get up at four thirty? So the flight was at eleven, three hours beforehand. Right. So it takes you four and a half hours to get ready in the morning?

Kelli (24:40.332)
If the flay was at eleven, they gotta be there at eight.

Kelli (24:47.598)
So she probably takes two hours. So four thirty, five thirty, six thirty. And then if they gotta be there at eight, they probably had to leave by seven thirty. So she'd have an hour to do everything else except for glam. But she's like, Yeah, I got glam, but that's not why I'm late. I I think it is. Right.

Lori (25:05.09)
Then why are you late? Fuck are you talking about?

Kelli (25:10.422)
That's why you're late.

Lori (25:11.81)
Yeah. I mean

Kelli (25:13.282)
I mean Giselle was really giving it to her. And I think everybody else agreed, but they were just letting Giselle go in for the kill.

Lori (25:16.31)
Right. So they

Lori (25:21.356)
Right. So they had to leave the hotel at eight.

And you got up at eight. No, no, their flight was at eleven o'clock. So why did it take you f four s four and a half hours? Okay. but even but even then it's f four and a half hours. You take an hour and a half. What the fuck are you doing? What are you doing?

Kelli (25:27.367)
they had to leave the hotel at eight, they didn't have to be at the airport at eight.

Kelli (25:33.654)
Okay. I would imagine her makeup takes at least an hour and a half, I would imagine. Which sounds crazy, but I mean we booked

Kelli (25:54.755)
Well, she's just not you know she's not going to speed up her process for anybody, that's for sure.

Lori (26:03.214)
Right. And you know what? Giselle should go at her. It was rude because it

Kelli (26:06.506)
Yeah, no, I think everybody was I think everybody was happy that Giselle was doing what she was doing.

Lori (26:11.766)
Absolutely. 'Cause it wasn't just the you know, the housewives sitting there, it was staff and everything else. And especially with bad weather coming, I yeah, I'd be pissed too. Like, what the fuck?

Kelli (26:18.147)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (26:23.34)
Yeah. Yeah, because who wants to wait? Like who wants to get stuck there? I people are getting stuck on air on air airplanes all the time right now. Like if you could try to avoid it, avoid it.

Lori (26:33.217)
Uh-huh.

So but there's something there's something fundamentally wrong with Lisa and her communication skills and how she how she moves, how she operates. There's there's some kind of there's some kind of disconnect, I mean, and it's something other than the total narcissism. It's like

Kelli (26:51.811)
Well

Kelli (26:57.6)
No, I think she has that opposition defiance disorder. So if somebody tells her to apologize or if somebody tells her she's wrong, it's gonna make her recoil even more.

Lori (27:06.464)
Yeah, she just Yeah, and that's just so not an adult way to operate.

Kelli (27:13.088)
It's not. It's very childlike. It's very immature. But think about how many adults you know who are like that. I personally think it's the worst the two worst character treats you can have is not being able to apologize and not being able to admit when you're wrong. Personally.

Lori (27:16.216)
Yeah.

Lori (27:32.012)
Yeah. So there you go.

Kelli (27:33.612)
Yeah. so they get they get to Miami. They get on the plane, they get to Miami, and they have old Cubans waiting for them when they arrive. And Lou says she'll take an old Cuban or a young Cuban.

Lori (27:49.612)
Yes. I'm sure she'll take anybody over the age of eighteen, Cuban or not.

Kelli (27:52.695)
And there are I mean, I know there used to be a lot of Cubans in Mi in Miami because my Aunt Rosie lived there and she married a Cuban, but I don't know what it's like now. I would imagine there's still a lot of Cubans there though. So Lou tells Giselle that she just talked to Marisol and they're gonna have a beach day and play games and then they're invited to a party. Is it a Paris Hilton party or did I miss

Lori (28:17.472)
It's a Leash Leisha Lisa Hodgkin's Hoxine, yeah, lingerie party.

Kelli (28:21.142)
Lisa Hoxtein party. Why did I think it was Paris? Maybe Paris Hilton was there though. good. Lisa Lisa throws good parties. Lou brings up, you know, Lisa Barlow being late, which is pretty funny because that's a big storyline on Miami, too. How Lisa Hoxtein was always late, remember? Giselle says it's disrespectful. And then meanwhile, we see Lisa go see Teresa and Lisa is

Lori (28:41.889)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (28:49.592)
gassing her up about her glam. She's like, my God, I can't believe how you do your makeup. It's so good. Which I am impressed. Like, I I'm impressed that Teresa Teresa does do her makeup very well. But we are from Jersey and Jersey girls know how to do our we know how to do our own makeup. Not right now. No makeup today. I worked remote. But when we go out, we you know, we n yeah, we go out. We show out.

Lori (29:03.534)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (29:07.254)
Let's do the makeup. Not right now.

Lori (29:15.554)
We go out. But this is the thing, like don't be so impressed, Lisa. Like, it's not that hard to do your face. You if y if you've right, I know, but I'm just saying, but even in general for Lisa, like, why do you always have to have like a glam team? Like, it's not that hard. If you have somebody doing your face professionally over and over and over again,

Kelli (29:26.048)
No, I don't think that's what it was about.

Kelli (29:32.173)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (29:44.514)
The normal person would look in the mirror, watch and be able to recreate that themselves in a pinch if they need to without a glam team. Yeah. I I guess that's

Kelli (29:51.573)
I'm sure she could. She just won't because she's above it. She's above it. But she was gassing Tari Teresa up because she wants Teresa in her corner. Yeah. Portia joins Giselle and Luann and she brings her go go juice. And then they bring up the Lisa being late thing again. And Portia says even though Lisa knew she was wrong instead of apologizing, she's just gonna keep saying, I'll apologize when I'm ready.

Lori (30:00.383)
yeah. yeah. Most definitely.

Kelli (30:18.88)
And Lou asks now knowing what everyone has has been saying about Lisa is she has she been pulling the wool over their eyes? I mean listen, I don't know if she's pulling the wool over her eyes, but o over their eyes, but listen she Lisa is who she is. She is who she is.

Lori (30:36.152)
Well, they they just needed to spend a little more time with her so that they could see there's another side.

Kelli (30:42.626)
Yep. I don't think being like habitually late though, like I don't think that warrants what Heather was doing to Lisa. Like what is Heather's big fucking issue with Lisa that she had to start with her right out the gate at that party?

Lori (30:54.927)
No, no, no, no.

Lori (31:02.828)
Because Heather thought that that spot on that show should have been hers. That is that is her That is her problem.

Kelli (31:09.898)
I agree. I think Heather is very jealous of this yeah. But she's been on an Ultimate Girls trip before Heather. She was on with Whitney when Portia and somebody again, it was like two people from each franchise. Mm-hmm.

Lori (31:23.832)
But it doesn't but it does but it doesn't matter because she thought she should have been on this one 'cause this one is the twentieth. It's the whole thing around it. So

Kelli (31:29.613)
Right.

Kelli (31:33.292)
Yep. And it seems like they were trying to bring the most iconic person from season one of each franchise. Kyle, Teresa. Lou.

Lori (31:41.592)
From each one.

Lori (31:50.414)
So that's that's her problem.

Kelli (31:52.941)
Yeah.

Well, listen, it is what it is. that's it. I don't have anything else for that, do you?

Lori (31:58.159)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (32:03.756)
No, that's it. So we'll see what happens.

Kelli (32:05.782)
I like I said, I didn't realize New York started last night, so we'll get to that and OC this weekend. And that's it. So everybody Lindsay Clancy, we didn't really talk about it, but there was a mistrial because one of the jurors held out and wouldn't, you know, agree, disagree, whatever, just held out. So mistrial on that, and they're gonna supposedly retry it, or there's a possibility they could reach some kind of plea agreement.

Lori (32:12.928)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (32:26.21)
Mm-hmm, uh-huh.

Kelli (32:35.682)
But if you don't know a lot about it, honestly, legally brunette, Emily and her husband Shane talk about it. I think they've talked about it twice. I just listened to the last one where she talks about the mistrial. She's very easy to listen to, to get the legal side of it. Bravo Docket, I love them too, but sometimes they go into so much detail, I I almost like zone out listening to them.

Lori (32:52.525)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (33:03.602)
Too right, too much legal, right.

Kelli (33:06.39)
Yeah, but Emily and Sheen's Bravo Docket, the last one that dropped about the mistrial was very good. So I'm not following it super heavily. I have a lot of people around me who are, so they're kind of keeping me apprised. But I did want to listen to that 'cause it like less than a half hour, so Yeah, it was good. It just broke it down a little bit. So

Lori (33:23.266)
And it was good. Okay, good.

Lori (33:27.958)
No matter what, it's sad upon sad upon sad upon sad. So anybody dealing with anything, there are so many resources, there are so many numbers that you can just call anytime and speak to somebody. So just anybody who's feeling anything, don't ever do it alone. Just pick up the phone. Pick up the phone and and

Kelli (33:31.797)
so sad.

Kelli (33:36.312)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:52.78)
Yeah, please get help. Please try to reach out.

Lori (33:56.522)
And cost. There's always somebody there.

Kelli (33:59.352)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (34:01.27)
Yeah and if nothing else, there's always the big cheese upstairs. So

Kelli (34:05.154)
Yeah. Just pray.

Lori (34:07.458)
That's it.

Kelli (34:08.78)
All right, well thank you for listening and watching. Bye.

Lori (34:12.002)
Bye.