RHOP-Save a Hoe, Stir the Pot

Wendy (00:01.304)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.914)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:06.54)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10, Episode Number 3. This one is titled Chin Checked. I am sick of Chin Checked. I mean a little bit. I thought we had it resolved.

Kelli (00:16.498)
Were you confused?

Kelli (00:23.228)
Well, not only that, but I was like, I went to type the title, because I watched it on demand. No, I didn't. When I watch it on Peacock, the name gets cut off, so I never put the name of the episode, but this time I watched it on demand. And I was like, wasn't that last week? Like I was confused. I figured Chin Check was last week. But whatever. We're still talking about it.

Wendy (00:30.136)
Peacock. on DVR. DVR.

Wendy (00:44.845)
Yeah.

Wendy (00:48.172)
Yeah, well, we're still talking about it. We're still talking about it. Yeah.

Kelli (00:51.686)
That's where the problem lies. We're still talking about it. Yeah.

Wendy (00:54.614)
Yes. We start out with Angel and her husband, they're talking about a budget for their house. Then we see Ashley working out in a class and she said that like when she's in a class, like she needs to be the fastest, the strongest, like the best. I will say she is very fit. I mean,

Kelli (01:19.61)
I mean, whatever she's doing is working for her. She looks amazing.

Wendy (01:23.278)
She really does. I was actually kind of blown away. I didn't think she worked out, to be honest with you. I thought she just kind of naturally had that shape. I mean, I know she likes to dance and stuff, but to see her, like, really works at it.

Kelli (01:36.049)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:39.706)
Yeah, I mean, I think she probably is just naturally fit like that, but you know, she does clearly work at it.

Wendy (01:45.664)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Stacey's with her daughter Arabella and she's working on Arabella's walk because I guess she's going into pageants like her mother. She's following in her footsteps.

Kelli (02:00.198)
Yeah, I didn't know what that was all about at first, but then we very soon learned. That's what it is.

Wendy (02:05.078)
Yeah, and she's only in the third grade, which I think is kind of young, but that's just me. I know, but I thought like we were done with that. didn't know. I mean, I could see if it's, yeah, I mean, I can see if it's like for scholarship money, you know, like the Miss USA and that kind of stuff, but I don't know.

Kelli (02:12.594)
Well, remember toddlers and Tiaras?

Kelli (02:18.866)
I think that still exists.

Kelli (02:29.606)
I think that that's the mindset that you have to start out that young to get to that level.

Wendy (02:36.558)
Yeah, it could be. be. Next we see Wendy and she meets up with Kierna. They're sitting on the bench. And Kierna said that she wanted to, you know, bring this conversation outside of the group so that they could discuss the issues. And then the first thing Kierna asks is if she's doing Preakness. And Wendy said, yeah, I'm doing it in case of, well, maybe we can plan on doing something together because I've been doing all this planning and

Kelli (02:38.098)
You know?

Wendy (03:05.055)
And all this legwork and Wendy's like, I was asked by the first lady of Baltimore. I am doing this. Like, this is part of the triple crown race. This is a big deal. And she kind of let Kierna know there's not going to be any like group, group, event.

Kelli (03:24.324)
Now, you know, do you think that the girls knew about Wendy's plan already? Like when Kierna said, like, do you want to do something together? Do you think she was aware that the first lady of Maryland had asked Wendy to host an event? Do you think Wendy had put that out to the women at this point? Because if she hadn't, then her reaction

Wendy (03:49.461)
No.

Kelli (03:53.27)
I think is a little off base. Like, don't you know? I was asked by the first, like, no, I didn't know. Maybe if I knew that, I wouldn't have put this out there.

Wendy (04:05.998)
I don't know if she said that in the invite, but I do think that all the ladies knew that she was hosting an event at the Preakness. And hers, I think, was actually physically at the racetrack.

Kelli (04:17.938)
I got the race, right, right, right, right.

Wendy (04:20.0)
So, which is totally different than what Kiernan was doing. So, I didn't quite understand it, to be honest with you. But that was...

Kelli (04:26.866)
Well, maybe Kiorna wanted to do it together and, you know, there. And Wendy was like, no, I'm flying solo.

Wendy (04:36.844)
Right. Yeah, exactly. But that wasn't the real conversation. The real conversation is she wanted to talk about was at Ashley's, whatever that was called, her bloom ball or whatever the heck it was called. And she felt like Wendy was very condescending towards her there. And she brings up again about the event that she saw her at where Wendy said to her, the first thing she said is, hey, did you do your own makeup?

I mean, okay, now I've heard this. can't, I don't even know how many times I've heard this.

Kelli (05:11.324)
Yeah, like it is rude, I'm not gonna lie, that's, you know, it's shady.

Wendy (05:15.936)
It is, but you know, Wendy said like,

Kelli (05:18.438)
You gonna keep bringing this up all season?

Wendy (05:21.07)
And she said, when you brought it to me there, I kind of thought it was juvenile. Like, this is what you're coming at me for? She's like, I've always had your back in this group. And she gives her circumstances, like when they were all going for her saying that she was getting her money for drugs. And Wendy did have her back. Kay said, you were there, but here's what.

Kelli (05:40.796)
Yes, did. Yes, yes.

Wendy (05:48.16)
You did, you show up when you're in public, but it looks like a friend privately. when we're not, when the cameras aren't rolling, okay, yeah, you were there for me. But when they're not rolling, you're not. I, yeah, I think that Kay thinks, I think Kay thinks the relationship is more than the relationship is. That's how I see it.

Kelli (06:04.658)
Welcome to Housewives, Like, this is a game you're playing.

Kelli (06:18.002)
Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, it is what it is. You're getting paid to do a job. This is your job. You go on the show, you be someone's friend, you start a little drama.

Wendy (06:27.383)
Right, right.

Wendy (06:34.956)
Yeah, I thought, I mean, and then she also brought up that she was having, you know, this conversation with Giselle at Ashley's event and, you don't even like Giselle. what, why are you talking with Giselle? Like, what does that have to do with anything?

Kelli (06:35.058)
That's what you're getting paid to do.

Kelli (06:48.368)
No, and then they start arguing over who likes Gisele and who doesn't. Like, what are we doing here? Yeah.

Wendy (06:53.55)
It was so stupid. It really was. It really was. And then, you know, she's like, all right, I'm done with you and your bullshit. And she gives her the finger and then Wendy gives her the finger back. And then they're like, Wendy's like kind of hugging her as they're walking out together, like her arm around her. Yeah, I, I don't, I don't know what was going on there. I think it was very weird. Really weird.

Kelli (07:09.082)
and Wendy was laughing hysterically.

Kelli (07:15.314)
It's very weird. Very, very weird.

Wendy (07:20.75)
Next we see angels at her house with her husband and the kids and her dad is there, Marvin. So her mom has passed away 10 years ago and I guess she spends more time with her dad now that her mom is gone. And her son, we meet him, he's Kush and he's four years old. And I don't know how to pronounce her daughter's name. I don't know what was Gia or I don't know how to pronounce it. But she's only one and she is adorable. Yeah, it started with a G.

Kelli (07:46.866)
Yeah, I didn't even write it down. Both her kids were adorable, yeah.

Wendy (07:51.202)
my god, so cute, so cute. I didn't realize her children were so young.

Kelli (07:53.169)
Yeah.

Yeah, they're little. He must have wanted to wait until after he retired to start a family. Which is smart, which is smart. Although I do love seeing those players run over to see their little kids, like after the game when you see clips of that. But this is smart. He can spend time with them.

Wendy (08:00.77)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (08:09.197)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Absolutely, he'll be there when they're growing up. So she's telling her husband that Giselle came in and said that Kay said, you know, she chin checked me and he's like, you know, that's not the kind of language you use for a friend. You know, I don't know why she would be so disrespectful. So that kind of just stops there.

Kelli (08:17.254)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (08:27.954)
You

Wendy (08:38.2)
Then we see Stacey meets up with Jassy for lunch. I was actually glad to see Jassy. I didn't know. I didn't think we were going to see her this season.

Kelli (08:45.426)
I gotta be honest with you, I forgot about Jassy and then when I saw her I was like, we really liked her. Listen, in my opinion, Jassy had more going than Kiarna. They should've brought Kiarna back. But I'm starting, I mean they should've brought Jassy back, not Kiarna, but I'm starting to see why they brought Kiarna back, because now she's got Angel in her pocket and she's coming for Wendy. With, under false base, because...

Wendy (08:51.884)
Yeah, we did like her.

Kelli (09:15.238)
There's nothing to this, but now this is clearly why they brought her back. Whatever.

Wendy (09:21.708)
Yeah, but as soon as they meet up, like, well, they haven't really seen each other since they went to Mia's birthday party in Miami last year and Mia ditched them. thought that was so funny that they brought that up.

Kelli (09:31.792)
Yeah, we never really got a full explanation of that, but I think with Mia, even if you got an explanation, it wouldn't be the truth anyway, so we're probably better off.

Wendy (09:41.792)
Yeah, I agree. agree. And Stacey's talking about, you know, how she is, you know, getting back with her ex-husband, they're trying to work on it and, you know, she's happy. And she asks Jassy to tell her about her wedding plans. And she didn't really say too much about it. She just said, you know, she was going to have, you know, more than one dress and that was pretty much it. But she did bring up the preakness.

Kelli (10:08.71)
Yeah.

Wendy (10:10.498)
that Jassy's going to be at the Preakness also. So Stacey said, we need to hook up because everyone's going to be there.

Wendy (10:23.724)
What happened next? Stacey said, every time I get together with the ladies, like it's a gang up. And it is, it really is, they are ganging up.

Kelli (10:29.98)
Yeah, she says like Giselle and Ashley are coming for her incessantly. Like they are coming for her incessantly. It's ridiculous.

Wendy (10:37.494)
It really is. And then she uses Giselle's phrase, word on the street, is Giselle has a new man and he's a retired NFL player. And she shows a picture, we don't see it, he's blurred out and she asks, know, Jassie, if her husband, cause he's also NFL. And you know, I guess she's going to see what she can find out if she knows who he is.

Kelli (10:43.879)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (10:51.324)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (10:58.575)
NFL.

Kelli (11:05.862)
Well, I Googled him because I had never heard of him. He played for 13 years in the NFL. He played for a couple of different teams. I think he was on the commanders for a little bit, but you can't find anything. If you Google Sean Springs, Giselle Bryant, you cannot find anything. So I don't know where Stacey got those pictures from, but I didn't see him on the web. Maybe, you know.

Wendy (11:07.958)
You did? Who is he?

Wendy (11:15.341)
Okay.

Wendy (11:22.861)
Really?

Kelli (11:30.278)
Maybe somebody else can find them, but I couldn't find them. But yeah, he played for a couple of different teams and he was in the NFL for 13 years. So that's a decent career as far as I'm concerned in the NFL. The way your body gets beat up, that's solid. So.

Wendy (11:30.935)
Interesting.

Wendy (11:46.54)
All right. The next thing we see is Tia is telling her oldest daughter that the twins are having a sleepover tonight. So it'll just be her and it'll be Sienna and Alexis, the 16 and the 13 year olds. And she said that they could each have a friend over, but Sienna and Alexis are arguing because I guess they each want to have five friends over and Sienna is the older one and she's really having a problem with everything that's going on there.

Kelli (12:15.74)
Yeah, she seemed very unhappy, which, you know, for a 16-year-old girl, that's, you know, she's almost at the end of it, but, you know, she's probably been in this state of unhappiness for about, I don't know, three to four years at this point.

Wendy (12:15.768)
Did you notice that?

Wendy (12:21.133)
Yeah.

Wendy (12:32.0)
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then Rob, no, yeah, yeah. And then Rob comes in and he's like, you know, what's the problem? And she's like, there's no problem. He said, like, what is going on? And she's like annoyed at the brother too. She's annoyed at the 10 year old. Like she thinks he's being disrespectful. like, there's a lot.

Kelli (12:33.394)
Not unhappiness, where everything's bothering you.

Kelli (12:52.518)
And then Tia says to her husband, you're making it an issue. No, he didn't. He walked in and said, what's the problem? This is the problem when your kids fight, you turn on each other.

Wendy (12:56.608)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (13:05.486)
Oh yes, that does happen sometimes. That does happen. So they said that they're gonna go outside and they're gonna have a chat outside, away from the kids. Tia tells us a little bit how she was raised in England, but she was raised under Nigerian principles. Here in America, with the self-expression and the kids wanna advocate for themselves and we want them to have a voice. She's like,

Kelli (13:08.133)
Yeah.

Wendy (13:32.674)
You know, I want that. just don't want them to use it on me.

Kelli (13:36.198)
That's right, that's right, there's a fine line. And I agree with that wholeheartedly.

Wendy (13:42.314)
I do too. And she's trying to talk to her husband about how she kind of, I guess, feeling a little bit overwhelmed between the kids and her work and her social commitments. She feels like she's got a lot on her plate right now. And, you know, her mom was a stay at home mom and she was until the kids went off to kindergarten and then she went back into the workforce. So it seems to me like she feels like she like started the journey of like being the stay at home mom.

And now it's his turn to kind of pick it up. Like, she started it, right? And it sounds like he is helping out. I mean, she called him the nanny the other day, right? He was taking the kids to the mall. Like, he's very present. He's very present.

Kelli (14:14.149)
Right.

Kelli (14:22.638)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's definitely, yeah, on board, you know. I can't think of the word I'm looking for, but you know, hands on, hands on.

Wendy (14:30.968)
Great.

Wendy (14:34.486)
He's yes, absolutely.

Kelli (14:37.306)
I liked when she said you have to be marginally insane when it comes to your kids.

Wendy (14:43.715)
yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (14:44.87)
you know, with staying on top of them and she's right. She's absolutely right.

Wendy (14:48.864)
No, absolutely. And I like when she said, you know, with her mom, if her mom told her, you know, to wash the dishes and she didn't, she'd come home and find the dishes in her bed. And honestly, that is the way to do it. Like I do crazy shit like that too. Like that's, I mean, I know it's crazy, but sometimes that's what you gotta do, right?

Kelli (15:02.13)
It is the way to do it.

Kelli (15:08.1)
Absolutely, absolutely. One day they're gonna have kids and then they'll see for themselves how fucking annoying it is.

Wendy (15:17.014)
Yup.

So then we see the ladies are out shopping. Giselle and Tia are there at first and Tia says she's knackered, which is guess a word that means tired. I never heard that one before. Right.

Kelli (15:26.418)
You

I never did either. But watching Gisele try to figure out what it was, was funny.

Wendy (15:35.774)
So funny. And then Wendy shows up and Angel shows up. So it's, you know, it's the four of them there. And Giselle announces like the group has not been having fun. Every time we've gotten together, it's just not been fun. And she really is decided that she's going to be Captain Saboho.

Kelli (15:57.329)
and Angel says, even at my event? And they're like, no. Like how rude was that?

Wendy (16:01.646)
So rude. She's like, I don't want I don't like these these bowls. He's singing bowls like that's not her thing.

Kelli (16:10.278)
I mean, I could do without another sound bath scene on a, you know what? It's not even house, just bravo in general, because didn't we see one on the valley too?

Wendy (16:19.746)
Yeah, probably. Yeah, I think so.

Kelli (16:21.062)
Yeah, I'm good on the sound baths. We get it.

Wendy (16:27.052)
just don't like that she calls herself, that they call each other hoes. Captain Save a Hoe? Like I just think it's rude. I'm sorry, I do. I do. She's a grown woman. Like why are you calling?

Kelli (16:37.298)
I feel like my friends and I used to do that when we were single. Not since we've gotten married, not that it would matter. I think we used to do that.

Wendy (16:42.318)
All right.

Wendy (16:46.102)
Yeah. So she announces that they're going to go to Nevis, which is an island in the Caribbean, and they're going to be staying at the Four Seasons, which sounds fabulous.

Kelli (16:56.76)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Wendy (16:58.474)
Angel announces she's gonna need them to hold her hand a bit because she's never been away from her kids and they're little. you know, she says she's gonna have to pump and she's like, I don't even care if I pump and dump, but you know, like I'm gonna go.

Kelli (17:13.575)
Yeah.

Wendy (17:16.806)
Wendy says, well, do you stay up late at night? Because we go out late. And Gisele says, are you a drinker? And she's like, no. And then she's like, you and Wendy, you didn't party together? And Wendy's like, no, we didn't hang out. And I don't think they did hang out. I don't even know that Wendy really, she was older.

Kelli (17:32.122)
No, she said Wendy's roommate was her big sister's. Yeah, Wendy's roommate was Angel's big sister. So Wendy was probably a senior when Angel was a freshman. It's a big difference.

Wendy (17:43.342)
He's a freshman, right. Right. It's a huge difference. It's a huge difference. So then there's shopping in the store and Giselle gives them advice about shopping. And by the way, Angel did shade her. no, Tia, Tia shaded. Wait, who shaded her? Tia, Tia shaded her about her style.

Kelli (18:02.48)
Yes. Tia.

Kelli (18:08.454)
Yes, you did.

Wendy (18:09.976)
Giselle said, think floaty for Neves or Titan right. I'm like, which is it? Like, exactly. Like, which is it?

Kelli (18:16.122)
It's like two opposite things, exactly. But I'm sorry, Giselle giving anybody fashion advice, stop it right now. The outfit she wore, I know we'll get there, but the outfit she wore to Kiana's for the preakness, the fuck are you doing? Who told you to wear that?

Wendy (18:23.521)
I know.

Wendy (18:34.486)
I know, like, I know. I agree. I agree. Like, what was she thinking?

Kelli (18:38.604)
my god. my god.

Wendy (18:42.018)
I just realized I don't have my picture behind me. Like, what am I doing?

Kelli (18:46.788)
You know what? And I didn't realize either. Two martinis, people. Two martinis.

Wendy (18:50.894)
Here it is. have it. just...

Sometimes that's all it takes. Well, because I had it up and you know what I didn't do? When my screen goes dark, I lose it. So I have to change my screen not to go dark. I had it up. All right, it's back. I'm sorry. I just realized it was bothering me.

Kelli (18:56.496)
You did, you got it up there quick though.

Kelli (19:07.761)
to... Okay. Right.

Wendy (19:20.248)
So then Angel asked Wendy, like, how's Wendy, like, with Keanu, like, how her talk went? Because, you know, she went for the talk, you know, she went to have the talk and she's like, well, it didn't go well. And she said, well, is there going to be a Preakness situation? Because she knew that there was two Preakness parties. And Wendy said, well, I don't think so. But if there is, it's going to be on her end because I'm not, like, there's no problem with me about it.

Kelli (19:44.914)
She did say that Kiana doubled down and said she didn't say chinchak. Isn't that what Angel said?

Wendy (19:51.852)
Yeah, yeah, because then, yeah, that's what happened. So then Giselle asked Angel, how's it with her and Kiana? And she said, they had their little spat and Angel said, well, she said she didn't say it. And Giselle said, wait, after she admitted that she said it? She said she came back and she doubled back and she doubled down that no, she didn't say it. I was like,

Kelli (20:15.439)
Yeah, it was weird.

Wendy (20:17.718)
And Angel said, well, if she said it, it's a real problem. I would not use that language like to talk about a friend. And Wendy said, like, I can't believe she used that phrase. I mean, that's a violent phrase after her getting hit in the head. And I was like, okay, we're going there. And she's right though. She's absolutely right.

Kelli (20:38.256)
What is wrong with someone saying that? She's 100 % right.

Wendy (20:43.926)
No, she is. Absolutely she is. She is right.

Kelli (20:45.904)
You're, you sued, you're, I mean, listen, I'm going to say it again. I said it all last season. You're on this show because you got hit in the head. You probably threatened to sue Bravo. And they were like, listen, we'll give you a spot. Cause I can't for the life of me figure out why else you're on this show. You are not interesting and neither is Greg. So this is why you're here. So why is it a big deal for someone to mention this? When you used the phrase chin checked, which

Wendy (20:54.018)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (21:03.053)
I know.

Kelli (21:15.684)
insinuates violence.

Wendy (21:17.91)
Right. Right.

Kelli (21:20.326)
I mean, I don't get where everybody's like, huh, right?

Wendy (21:25.804)
No, I don't either. No, no, because Giselle said, like, next time we're together, that's the first conversation we're having. And you know Giselle's not going to let it go. So that is the first conversation that they're having.

Kelli (21:33.7)
Nah-uh, because she's not sharing anything about her real life. So she's gonna bring your shit up. Because Giselle doesn't want us knowing anything about what's going on in her life. So she's gonna keep talking about yours.

Wendy (21:37.41)
No. yeah.

Wendy (21:43.064)
That's true, that's true. That's right, mean, Stacey even brought it up about, she brought her ex-husband back when Giselle was giving Stacey a hard time. Like, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (21:54.685)
I said, exactly, I said that the first episode. Why are we talking about that? Why is Ashley and Gisele questioning anyone on this show, anyone's authenticity? When Ashley was married to a bisexual man for years and wouldn't admit to it, and Gisele faked getting back together with her ex-husband who had a full-on girlfriend who he then married.

Wendy (22:22.242)
Yeah.

Kelli (22:23.716)
I what is going on?

Wendy (22:26.86)
Yeah, I know. I know.

So it's the pregame brunch and Kiorna has her chef there again. And Greg is there and her mother and Greg and her mother again is stunning. And Greg, she really is. Kiorna says that she wants to get into the black Carrie Bradshaw experience and her mother's like,

Kelli (22:40.498)
and her mother.

Kelli (22:48.412)
She really, really is. She really is.

Wendy (23:01.56)
Did you just say the Black Carrie Bradshaw?

Kelli (23:08.786)
don't ever remember Carrie Bradshaw hosting anything at her house. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure she had sweaters in her oven.

Wendy (23:17.486)
Yes, she did. 100 % she did. Yeah. And she said that she's happy that Greg is there because he's showing her that, you know, even though we know he doesn't like to film, but he's there supporting her. Okay. I mean, I don't...

Kelli (23:18.866)
But whatever.

Kelli (23:32.784)
Yeah, that actually was very nice, even though there were no other husbands there. Right?

Wendy (23:38.002)
Right. And you know, there wasn't, but Stacey arrives first and she starts like questioning Greg. Like, are you living here? Like, are you guys together? Like, I thought they broke up. And I'm like, now you're questioning this? Like, you've got your own situation. Like, why are you questioning them?

Kelli (23:56.435)
It's just so funny, I have the same thing written down. You're really gonna ask her about her living situation when everything you've said since you started on this show has been questioned and some lies have been proven?

Wendy (24:05.493)
Right. Right.

Wendy (24:10.156)
Yeah, I know. It was crazy to me.

Kelli (24:11.974)
Like, why don't... Yeah.

Wendy (24:16.609)
What are you going to say?

Kelli (24:17.967)
No, go ahead, go ahead.

Wendy (24:20.022)
Okay, so when Giselle gets there, she sees Keanu's mom. She's like, are you coming too? She's like, no, no, I'm just here now. And I don't know if you noticed, but Keanu's mom and Greg are like sitting out, like talking to each other outside where all the ladies are inside. I'm like, this is so weird. Like this is so awkward.

Kelli (24:36.934)
Well, somebody points it out, and I think it was 100 % right. Kiana's mom was there to keep an eye on everything. Kiana's mom was not gonna let anybody, and maybe it is because there has been, someone has physically assaulted her on this show before, but Kiana's mom was not gonna let anybody get heated towards her. I think that's why she was there, personally.

Wendy (25:04.75)
I mean, that's very possible. That's very possible.

Kelli (25:08.464)
Because I think based on what happens now in this scene, I think Kiana and Angel had a conversation that we did not see, we were not privy to. And I don't even think the cameras, I don't even think the producers were privy to it. Right?

Wendy (25:19.63)
100%.

Wendy (25:24.97)
No, this was so set up. This was totally set up and Wendy called her out on it.

Kelli (25:31.088)
Yes, so I think Kiana's mom knew that and knew that something could get a little out of control now. Because she had both eyes on those women the entire time. Maybe it was Wendy who said it.

Wendy (25:38.68)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:46.708)
It probably was because she's the one who called her out. I mean, she's the one who called her out. So when Giselle gets there, she says that...

She's inviting them all to Nevis. So it's Stacey, Ashley, Kiana, because they weren't at the store shopping. So the other lady, she's telling them about the Nevis trip. And Stacey's like, she's excited, but she's surprised that she's invited. I mean, they kind of have to invite you. You are actually a cast member.

Kelli (26:16.824)
Yeah.

I know. Yeah, I know, but sometimes they don't.

Wendy (26:27.502)
Kay and her confessional was shading Giselle's outfit. Did you see that?

Kelli (26:33.808)
I did, and I totally agreed with her.

Wendy (26:36.724)
I know, I know, I know. It's like... And then Angel gets there and Giselle is talking about her titties in her confessional. Like she's shading her outfit. I'm like, what is going on here?

Kelli (26:41.818)
It's crazy.

Kelli (26:52.082)
Her... Her... Her boobs really were...

Wendy (26:55.756)
They were out. They were out. But you know what? Giselle's are out a lot of times too.

Kelli (26:59.704)
Yeah, they are. They are.

None of these women can really dress. I'm sorry. So none of them can really dress. I'm sorry.

Wendy (27:10.878)
No, honestly, think I like, if I had to, I think I like Stacey's style the best to be quite honest with you.

Kelli (27:19.397)
I agree with you.

Wendy (27:21.548)
I think she's the most conservative and I think that everything fits her well. Yes, yes, very tasteful.

Kelli (27:26.898)
Tastful.

I mean, I hate to say it, but...

Wendy (27:33.056)
Yeah. I didn't realize how tall she is. I don't know if she actually is six foot four, but she is very tall. mean, she's... No, I mean, well, Keanu jokingly said like, you know, I'm five three and you're six four. I don't think she's six four, but she is very tall. She is very tall.

Kelli (27:40.786)
She can't be 6'4. 6'4? Oh. Oh.

Kelli (27:52.24)
She's very tall and she wears high heels. know, she wears tall heels. Yeah.

Wendy (27:55.062)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (28:00.795)
I love when Wendy said, I love a good nosh before the main event, my event. I'm sorry. I have to wait to see what happens because I still like Wendy. I have to see what happens with this whole fraud thing.

Wendy (28:06.53)
Yes. Yep.

Wendy (28:18.414)
So Giselle puts it out there, like, do we end up here? This is your event to Wendy. And Kieron's like, well, Wendy likes to be the better best, the first better best. And Wendy said, there's a constant desire to, like, for you to have an issue with me. She's like, I think it's awkward because you can see there wasn't a problem. And Wendy wasn't making a problem. I mean, yes, she made the dig, like, you know, the nosh before the event, but.

Kelli (28:29.137)
Yeah.

Kelli (28:46.268)
That was in her confessional. Nobody heard her say that.

Wendy (28:49.796)
that's true. That's true. No, she actually was. Yeah, no, you're right. No, no, no, you're right. She actually, mean, she, she was fine when she came in, like she wasn't starting. It was Giselle. Giselle is always the one who starts it. Right?

Kelli (28:51.258)
Right? Unless you said it there, but.

Kelli (29:04.538)
Of course, then nobody's seeing what's going on in her life.

Wendy (29:08.802)
Right.

Wendy (29:12.138)
and Wendy says when they bring up the whole, the Kiarna, Angel situation, Angel said that, you know, we're good. Like we're good. And Giselle's like, well, Angel said, I'm not calling you a liar. Cause I, you know, I felt one way at the time when I first heard it, but I was able to sleep on it. And you know, now I feel another way about it. Like I'm not calling you a liar.

And that's when Wendy's like, know, I, you know, why do you have different energy here than you did the other day?

Kelli (29:51.206)
Right, right.

Wendy (29:54.73)
and then Kiorna said, just so we're clear, I said it and I apologized, Angel. Angel said, I apologize if you feel I didn't have your back. And just so you know, I always have your back. And I think that's what the conversation was. Those two are going to have each other's back regardless of what is going on. And now Angel knows the game. Now Angel knows she didn't know before. And as

Kelli (30:20.348)
Right. But Kiarnas said something that set her straight real quick, right then and there. And everybody saw it.

Wendy (30:32.514)
She said, you have the right to feel however you want. As your friend, I'm going to give you that in good faith that I understand how this can get heightened. But whatever that chat was you all had, I hope that will be the last. And that's where Giselle said in her confessional, if Kierna didn't chin check her before, she certainly did right now because Angel just shut right down. And I agree. Yes, it was.

Kelli (30:47.559)
Yeah.

Kelli (30:54.522)
Yeah. And that was so rehearsed. That was so rehearsed what she said.

Wendy (31:02.986)
It was. It really was.

Kelli (31:07.302)
And then Angel turns on Wendy and says, let's talk about the energy you brought today. was very strange. It was very out of place, her saying that, I thought. So now these two are clearly now gonna come for Wendy.

Wendy (31:07.653)
Wendy (31:12.077)
Right.

Wendy (31:17.933)
Yeah.

Wendy (31:21.964)
Yeah. And then Stacy jumps in like, why don't you like Wendy? And Wendy's like, you don't like me now? She said, no, I don't like this conversation because you're basically calling me fake.

Kelli (31:28.562)
You

Wendy (31:37.506)
Kieran, I that's what.

Kelli (31:37.777)
And I don't think she was calling her fake. I think she was saying like, wait a minute, the last time we were with each other, you said, you were gonna make sure Kiana knew that it's not okay, whatever. And honestly, when Angel said, like, listen, I was upset, I slept on it, I feel better, I don't even think anybody came at her after that.

Wendy (31:43.448)
Right.

Wendy (31:52.587)
Right.

Kelli (32:07.696)
Right? Like it's not like they were like, that's bullsh**.

Wendy (32:08.136)
No, think no, no.

no,

Kelli (32:16.592)
Or did Wendy say something and that's why Angel turned on her? I mean, she was going to anyway, cause she's Kierna's friend.

Wendy (32:22.082)
Wendy said, Wendy said, Wendy said, the way you just flipped on me, it's just crazy. Angel said, wow. Like that was after, yeah. Right. Yeah.

Kelli (32:30.276)
Right, like flipped on Wendy. But like that's what I'm saying. Like she didn't, I don't think that Wendy was like, well, what do you mean you woke up and felt different? Like she didn't push that at all. It's like Angel said what she was saying to Kiarna and then flipped on Wendy without Wendy provoking it, I thought.

Wendy (32:41.352)
No, she didn't say that. No, she didn't. She didn't. Right.

Wendy (32:53.1)
Yeah, I mean, did you happen to watch Watch What Happens Live?

Kiarna was on.

Kelli (32:58.402)
I started to. Kiana was on. I started to. I didn't finish.

Wendy (33:03.358)
I same for me, I didn't finish either. But what she did say was that they really have been friends for 20 years. She met her when she was 18 and she used to do her hair. Kiana used to do Angel's hair and then Angel was working at BET and then Angel got Kiana in there to do other like Talon's hair.

Kelli (33:19.54)
that's interesting.

Wendy (33:28.512)
and they have been really close ever since and it is a real friendship. So they're not gonna break it up. think now that, yeah, right. I'm actually, I was happy to hear that because I don't like when we have all this fighting, especially people that are supposed to be friends, right?

Kelli (33:34.224)
Okay.

Kelli (33:39.438)
Okay, that's good. That's good. She's got her ride or die on the show for her

Kelli (33:51.664)
Yeah, mean, yes, yes, I totally agree with you. It's not enjoyable to watch. It's not.

Wendy (34:00.398)
Yeah. So then Giselle's like, okay, like now, like we gotta get out of here. We gotta go see the first lady of Maryland. And then Greg all of a sudden comes over and is like giving out like all this money. Then they get on, no, nice. They get on the bus and they're on their way to, you know, go to the Preakness. Angel said, Bobby said, drop a stack on one of those horses. So I guess she's gonna be betting on one of those horses.

Kelli (34:12.39)
Yeah, that's not too shabby.

Kelli (34:28.58)
I so. A whole stack full.

Wendy (34:31.351)
Yeah.

Giselle said, can I toast you Angel, cause you look upset. She's like, no, I'm not upset. You I was mad, but I'm fine. Again, like you already dropped this. Now you're on the bus, you're all toasting champagne, you're all having a good time. And then Giselle has to like try and the pot again. It's actually annoying. It's really annoying.

Kelli (34:52.348)
Yeah, yeah. It's very annoying. It's very annoying. And Angel said she... Go ahead.

Wendy (34:58.796)
And I'll be honest, I was.

I'm surprised Ashley didn't jump in because normally she does.

Kelli (35:05.483)
absolutely, because Ashley's the new Robin.

Wendy (35:09.26)
Yeah, but she has, she didn't.

Kelli (35:11.664)
Right. And Angel said that she feels very misunderstood by the group. You're not misunderstood by the group. The group is actually seeing you for exactly who you are. You're Kiana's friend. And there was a little bump and you tried to, you know, be all tough. And then she chinchacked you. She mentally chinchacked you. And now you're back.

Wendy (35:34.84)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Kelli (35:39.866)
ride or die and that's okay. But nobody misunderstood you. Everybody saw you, everybody saw exactly what it was. You underestimated what this group is capable of seeing. That was the problem.

Wendy (35:44.941)
Right.

Wendy (35:58.158)
Then, I mean, just when you think that the, like, how long is this stupid sprinter ride? Because then they get into the drama between Stacy and Kiorna, how Stacy says, said you were trying to get to know me and you didn't invite me to half the events last season. And then Kiorna spills the champagne on her dress and asks for a napkin. And then Wendy jumps in and tells Angel,

If I had a cotton dress, I would use my dress to wipe off her. I'm like, wait, what?

Kelli (36:27.42)
Yeah, what was that? And then, then Kiana starts telling Stacey to fuck off. I'm like, is she drunk? Was she drunk? She just started saying, F off. Like, who, who are you talking to?

Wendy (36:31.598)
have no idea.

Wendy (36:40.086)
I know. mean, yeah, she did. I know. That's what I wrote down. I'm like, she said it like she kept saying, fuck off. I'm like, what is going on?

Kelli (36:53.65)
Yeah, and then Stacey says...

Wendy (36:53.826)
Stacey said, I don't talk like that. And she doesn't.

Kelli (36:59.802)
No, but that she did say something about being chin checked. And then Ashley says, Stacey, you're taking it too far. Why is she taking it too far by saying chin checked? Kearna's the one who said chin checked. Like, I don't get it. Like, Ashley, you wanna be mad at Stacey for something? Make it valid. This is not valid.

Wendy (37:03.768)
You did.

Wendy (37:20.204)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, and I think that was the only place she could jump in. That's the only place she could jump in.

Kelli (37:27.408)
Exactly.

Yep. Exactly.

Wendy (37:34.574)
So then on Watch What Happens Live, Andy does ask Kieran about the elephant in the room and about what happened with the Ocephos. And she's like, well, she was shocked and a little bit disappointed and didn't expect it. And she's like, that's all I have to say, thoughts and prayers. Like she really didn't say anything, which I think is best. Yeah, I think it was best. didn't really, yeah.

Kelli (37:53.683)
was smart though. Yeah, I mean, what are you gonna say? What's anybody gonna say? First of all, it's an ongoing investigation. Nobody knows what really happened. Who knows? We don't know.

Wendy (38:03.342)
Right.

Phoebe was on with her Phoebe Robinson, she's a comedian and she said she was confused about it. Then he asked about Karen and she said she's spoken to Karen. I don't believe her. I don't believe she's spoken to Karen to be honest with you.

Kelli (38:19.494)
I actually saw that and I felt like she kind of hesitated, but she didn't, but she said yes, but she said like briefly or something like that. Like she didn't make it sound like they've talked a lot.

Wendy (38:31.222)
She said.

No, she said, we said, hey girl, hey, she's doing well. So I don't even know if that was just a text message or like.

Kelli (38:42.085)
that's how I took it. I took it. It was just a text message.

Wendy (38:45.814)
Yeah. And then Andy does bring up like, is going on with you and Wendy? Like, it looks like it's a bigger issue than that you're not acknowledging. And she's like, no, I feel like when she's on camera, Wendy is one way. And when she's not, she's another way. And I'm like, I don't see, like, I don't see what you're saying. even if that is it, why are you making it such a big deal? It doesn't have to be.

Kelli (39:11.186)
It doesn't have to be. You're on a show together. You're show friends. You weren't friends before. You're not gonna be friends after. You're show friends. This is your job, Kiorna. Just do it. You're lucky to be there.

Wendy (39:14.004)
Right, right.

Wendy (39:18.818)
That's a fact.

Wendy (39:22.956)
Yeah, I know. That's how I feel about the whole situation.

Kelli (39:28.026)
Yeah.

Wendy (39:30.678)
Yeah, I am curious to see though.

Kelli (39:31.302)
You have

Kelli (39:34.876)
Yeah. In other news other than Potomac, unless you have any more on that.

Wendy (39:41.055)
No.

Kelli (39:43.142)
I'm so confused, did you see Olivia from Southern Charm called off her wedding?

Wendy (39:48.289)
I did see that. That was last week. I did see that.

Kelli (39:50.483)
Yeah, but she just had her bridal, bachelorette. I saw all the pictures in the bachelorette. So we need more information about this. And Austin and his girlfriend broke up.

Wendy (39:53.772)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (40:01.634)
Yeah, we do. We do.

I didn't see that.

Kelli (40:08.186)
Yeah, very interesting, isn't it?

Wendy (40:09.184)
I did not see that. you know what did come out? Andy did mention that Stacey actually is divorced and the official divorce papers did show up. So she actually is divorced.

Kelli (40:20.274)
I didn't doubt it for a second because quite honestly, I think she's faking getting back together with her husband now. So I didn't doubt her divorce for a second.

Wendy (40:26.254)
hahahaha

Yeah, that's so crazy.

Kelli (40:33.222)
I mean, why would she, you know, just because Ashley talked about getting divorced for five years before she actually filed, and again, why are you questioning Stacey when you did that? You couldn't give anybody a straight answer when they asked you about your divorce. It's so crazy to me.

Wendy (40:46.615)
I know.

Wendy (40:50.189)
I know.

Wendy (40:54.4)
It really is crazy. It really is.

I don't know. I will tell you this. So I was on TikTok the other day and I was scrolling through and this clip came up and it was reasonably shady, which is Giselle and Robin. And I know you cannot stand those two together, but they were telling this story about how they were coming back from New York on the train and they got on the train at like nine o'clock in the morning and they...

Kelli (41:14.994)
Mm-mm.

Wendy (41:24.686)
You know, they followed the thing, they went down the stairs, they got on the train and they weren't sitting together because they were both in New York on business. And then it like, it just, you know, how it's a clip, it's it's a real on TikTok. So you don't get the whole story. I was like, Oh, damn it. I got to find out the rest of this damn story. I had to go find the podcast and I, I go find the rest of this story. It is so freaking funny. So.

Kelli (41:44.694)
god.

Wendy (41:53.09)
Giselle is in first class, Robin is in coach. They're both there on business and I guess Giselle upgraded hers and the other one didn't. They get on the train and the conductor comes up to Robin and she looks at her ticket and she's like, you're on the wrong train. You're going the wrong direction. You're on your way to Connecticut. Robin, yes, Robin starts cracking up.

Kelli (42:16.974)
no.

Wendy (42:21.026)
Like her first reaction is to crack up.

And just, this turns out the same conductor gets to Giselle and tells Giselle the same thing. And Giselle is trying to call Robin, but Robin isn't like paying attention to her phone. And Giselle's like, like Giselle's like kind of like freaking out, like we're going the wrong direction. So.

The conductor's like, are you with that other girl? She's like, yes, yes I am. was honestly, was such a funny story. I like laughed my ass off. the long story short is they got off at the next stop. There was another train that they were gonna catch to get themselves back. But that train, the only reason they were gonna catch it is because it was running late. So she had already shown her ticket. They'd already shown their ticket to the conductor. So the ticket was like already done. the conductor gave her like a piece of paper and said,

you know, hand this to the next conductor so they get on the next train. Giselle was in first class and the next train there's no tickets. these are like assigned tickets because it's the Acela train, like the high speed train. So they, right, so they throw them in the cafe car and Giselle's like, I had this really good ticket. And then the conductor's like, well, okay, so you're here now, but you have to like legitimize it. You can't just give me this piece of paper. Like we need to know that you're on this train. So you have to go like through the...

Kelli (43:24.107)
yeah, yeah, yeah, the fast one.

Wendy (43:40.862)
online process and get the ticket right. So she's like, they get the tickets, they wind up just sitting like together, but in coach and then they're sitting next to each other and

There's a guy behind Giselle, there's nobody behind Robin, and Robin goes to put her seat back, and the guy pushes her seat forward. And Giselle is on the phone, not really paying attention to what's going on. And then she sees Robin yelling at this guy, and then she turns around. She's like, this is the biggest man on the train. The guy is 400 pounds. And she's like, Robin is having words with him. And I'm like, what are we doing? And so.

Kelli (44:08.867)
my gosh.

Kelli (44:20.543)
my god.

Wendy (44:27.36)
I'm just laughing. like, I could just so see this like with, like with one of us. Like I could see something like this happening, like with one of us, right? So long story short with this. So the two of them just get up and they wind up moving to another seat, but Robin's still like having words back and forth with this guy. I'm just like, my God.

Kelli (44:31.034)
absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (44:47.006)
my

Kelli (44:50.972)
Why did they just stay in the cafe cart? That was probably more comfortable. And how long could this ride have actually been from New York to Maryland on a Sela? It's probably two hours, probably less.

Wendy (44:56.206)
I don't know, I have no idea.

Wendy (45:05.066)
Well, was, it was supposed to, it was, I think they were two hours behind because of their trip to Connecticut and then back to New York and then back to... Yes, it's, totally messed up their day. Yeah.

Kelli (45:13.496)
Kelli (45:20.316)
That is really funny.

Kelli (45:26.236)
That's great.

Wendy (45:29.944)
So I just shared a little bit of their podcast, even though we don't like them, but I did happen to listen to it because I just got stuck in the clip.

Kelli (45:34.448)
Now, I can't listen to Robin. I would suffer through it if it were just Giselle, but I can't listen to that fraud Robin.

Wendy (45:44.238)
you

Alright, so I guess until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (45:55.261)
Bye.