RHONY S16 E8 -Sai Walks Out, Daisy Goes Off & Carole Refuses the Drama

Kelli (00:00.919)
Hi, welcome to Bewine whenever I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:03.65)
Wendy.

Lori (00:04.951)
And I'm Lori.

Kelli (00:06.931)
tonight we're talking about Real Housewives of New York City, season 16, episode 8, Havana Fights. But before we do, please go to our YouTube and subscribe. Go to our socials and follow, and please get five-star review if you would. Thank you. so we start out with Erin talking to her assistant, Sid, about a birthday party she wants to have for Abe, and we find out that Abe is Abe's mom was Cuban.

And he really embraces his Cuban side. So it's gonna be a Cuban themed party. And I I loved I think Sai sa somebody said it at the party that he's Juban. That was hysterical.

Wendy (00:48.292)
Jew Cuban. I love that. I I love that. I was surprised to hear that Abe is only forty three. I will just say I thought he was older than that. I really did. I did. I did.

Lori (00:49.752)
That's great. That's funny.

Lori (00:59.19)
I thought he was older than that too. Me too. And I felt like that whole phone call with the s first of all, I was like, okay, girl, like per daisy, you got all this debt going on, but you're still out here with an assistant. And then I felt like the No, and the whole phone call I thought was like so fake. I was like

Kelli (01:15.369)
Yeah, I have a feeling this was not really her assistant.

Kelli (01:23.617)
Yeah. Like okay, and do we do this and do we do this and do we do this? And then listen, it's

Wendy (01:23.9)
How about

Lori (01:28.532)
Acting like it was like a three hour phone c stop it. Just

Kelli (01:31.907)
It's it was a lovely party, but it was something that I could throw together and I do not claim to be a great party party thrower.

Wendy (01:32.07)
Yeah, but as

my gosh. It was a house. Yeah. It was a it was a house party. But how about the fact when she's on the phone with her assistant, they're showing Haley brush her teeth, they're showing Erica do something, someone else is getting a massage. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. And we're still listening to her?

Lori (01:38.09)
Absolutely. No.

Kelli (01:47.896)
Yeah.

Lori (01:48.684)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:53.399)
We'dn't we've never seen that that pr we've never seen production do that before though. That was interesting. Yeah. I agree. Yeah.

Wendy (01:59.405)
right?

Lori (02:00.074)
I mean it was it was cute from a production standpoint, but I was like, Aaron, but you need to stop with your fake ass phone.

Wendy (02:02.886)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I totally agree.

Kelli (02:06.434)
Well, she's just a fake and phony, so

Yeah. So Pavit gets home and tells Jessel that he's having peanut butter and jelly sandwich for lunch and she kinda clowns on him for it. And listen, we throw that around over here all the time. We love a PB and J.

Lori (02:17.847)
We like the PPJ. We love the pee the peanut butter and jelly. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (02:21.244)
L net you're never gonna hear me complaining about that. Nope.

Kelli (02:24.712)
No, Eric will fry one up and make it like a French toast, PBJ. He really he gets creative. and Wendy loves her uncrestables, exactly. We Uncrestables seriously sponsor us because this one every day.

Lori (02:29.633)
Yeah. Wendy likes her own custables, we know. She owns crucibles.

Wendy (02:33.05)
I love my own crestables.

Wendy (02:38.206)
my gosh. Every day, every day. And I will tell you this, when I was in Florida, I kind of switched it up a bit. My mother's a huge English muffin fan. I'm not really an English muffin fan. But so I did the I did a peanut butter and jelly on the English muffin. Yeah.

Lori (02:38.603)
Yes, please. Yes.

Lori (02:48.594)
dude, we always have the peanut butter and jelly on the English muffin. That's a way to go.

Kelli (02:52.097)
Very good.

Lori (02:55.937)
Did you put a little butter first? Like regular butter. Little bit of come on. A little bit of regular butter. Yeah, and then you add the peanut butter until

Kelli (02:56.374)
Very good. Yeah, that's what you gotta do. You gotta put a little butter first. Because butter on an English muffin alone is delicious. But then you add the peanut butter and jelly on top of it. It's like a dessert. Yeah, it's delicious. Mmm. So Jessel's updating Pavet on the vacation, and Pavit asks so she says, you know, Sai said that Erin said something despicable about you, and he's like, well, is it what she's been saying all along? Like

Wendy (02:59.263)
I didn't put the butter I didn't put the butter first.

Yeah.

Okay, okay. Gonna have to up my game.

Lori (03:12.653)
You're gonna have to have the game.

Wendy (03:25.448)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (03:26.299)
He like unbothered. And she's like, No, it's actually that you're gay. And he's like, Well, I know myself and I'm straight. And you can even ask all my gay friends, and they'll tell you I'm straight.

Lori (03:28.193)
Yeah. yeah.

Wendy (03:35.696)
It was it was so funny because she said it was that you bat for the other team and he's like like I'm gay? It took him a minute. I thought that was so funny.

Lori (03:36.961)
Yeah, it was funny.

Lori (03:45.587)
Yeah.

Lori (03:50.007)
He's like, I project straight. It's funny.

Kelli (03:50.177)
And you know, yeah. He's like, if she heard the rumor about me and she's your friend, she should have come to you. Listen, this is not how housewives housewife though, Pavet. So and he said she's a ninety year old woman trapped in a fifty year old's body. Now Erin is clearly not fifty.

Wendy (03:52.786)
Yeah.

Lori (03:56.854)
Absolutely. There you go. There's nothing else to say. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (04:00.572)
Yeah.

Wendy (04:04.829)
Love that. Loved that shade. I loved it. Loved it. Loved it.

Lori (04:06.573)
It's great.

Kelli (04:09.0)
It it was good shade from Povit though.

Lori (04:10.763)
And you know why I liked it? Because I don't necessarily really think that he thought that she was fifty, but I think that

Lori (04:26.551)
He still offhandedly really meant it. You know what I mean?

Kelli (04:29.09)
Well, yeah.

Wendy (04:29.507)
a hundred percent.

Yeah. Yeah. No. It was the best. I actually loved it.

Kelli (04:36.64)
Yeah. Daisy goes over to Sai's house and Cy tells her that as soon as she got out of her car when she got back from the trip, some guy in a hoodie comes up to her and says, Sai, and she's like, Yeah. And he says, You have been served. And Daisy's like, Damn, I thought that only happened in the movies. I thought that only happened in the movies, and I've worked for lawyers for thirty years. Hmm. Yeah.

Lori (04:54.397)
yeah, yeah.

Wendy (04:56.284)
That's crazy. I was surprised as well.

Lori (04:59.265)
I thought Daisy's hair looked so good when she was at Size House. Did sh did something different? It looked really No, but I really liked it at Size House. I thought it looked really good.

Kelli (05:06.036)
At size house, yeah. I didn't like it really for the party though.

Kelli (05:12.82)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (05:14.578)
Daisy's so annoying to me. I I have a hard time liking anything about her. She really is annoying.

Lori (05:17.868)
Yes, she's annoying.

Kelli (05:19.282)
She's she might be the worst other than Noella on OC, she might be the worst first time housewife. She's horrible.

Wendy (05:29.436)
Really is. She's not housewife and good. She's not.

Kelli (05:32.77)
She is not housewiving well at all. Cy tells Daisy that Erin said it was her makeup artist that was the leak about the divorce rumor with Jenna. And she said she didn't take any accountability. So she wants to move forward with Erin, but she's gonna do it with caution and they're just gonna be surface friends, and that's that.

Wendy (05:52.188)
Which is fine, that's absolutely fine, I think.

Kelli (05:54.827)
Aren't you all surface friends? I mean, I really don't think Cy and Jessel are getting deep down and dirty with each other, you know?

Lori (05:56.278)
Yeah. Aren't are you even friends at all?

Wendy (06:00.008)
I think they are. I actually think Cy and Jessel are friends. I think

Kelli (06:02.322)
I hope they are. Actually I heard them on Jeff Lewis, so maybe they are actually.

Wendy (06:06.638)
I think they are actually friends to be honest with you. I do. And I do think Daisy and Cy were friends, but Daisy was trying to mother her and Cy was being Cy. And I listen, I'm on Cy side. I am.

Kelli (06:21.28)
Me too. Daisy got like you know, clouded by the cool girl slash mean girl.

Wendy (06:27.408)
She got clouded by Martha. She got clouded by Martha. She thinks that she is Martha Stewart.

Lori (06:34.283)
No, she's the help. You're the help.

Wendy (06:35.898)
Well I n I know that too. I

Kelli (06:36.026)
She's the help. And that's what I have here. You're not spoiled by Martha. You're an employee of Martha's. So when she travels first class, you travel first class. When she goes on a private plane, you go on a private plane. You're the help. You're the paid help.

Lori (06:40.683)
You're the help.

Wendy (06:42.343)
Right.

Lori (06:47.851)
Right. You're the help. Right.

Wendy (06:50.172)
The way she spoke to Erica and what she expected from Erica was just so disrespectful. So disrespectful.

Kelli (06:57.27)
Yeah, she's horrible. I want to find one person out there that thinks that she hasn't acted a fool this season.

Lori (06:57.805)
Crazy.

Wendy (07:04.383)
yeah, that's a good question. I'll ask our listeners, like she does?

Lori (07:06.433)
She does have a fan base, I've heard. She actually does, yeah.

Kelli (07:08.618)
Yeah, I mean she I mean she probably had a fan base prior to this because she's Martha Stewart's makeup artist.

Wendy (07:14.728)
All right, so if you're a fan of daisies, please let us know, comment and yeah, let us know.

Kelli (07:20.416)
Yeah, let us let us hear it. So then they bring up Haley and her confusing stories. And Daisy says it's Haley's art that she can tell the most confusing story ever heard. I mean they go over, you know, whatever she was saying, but I mean it is confusing. That's just ha that like I don't know why it doesn't bother me. If it were somebody else, it might bother me. But for some reason Haley doesn't bother me when she's telling these outlandish stories or whatever, circling going in a circle with her stories.

Wendy (07:50.524)
Well, she absolutely makes zero sense and I've said this I think every episode. I I want to like her, but I just can't get past the fact that I know that everything she's saying is a lie. Like I just can't get past that fact.

Kelli (07:52.832)
Zero.

Kelli (08:04.407)
She's almost she's almost like a young Sonia, but without the alcohol.

Wendy (08:10.298)
'Cause she has marijuana instead.

Lori (08:12.257)
Right, right, there you go.

Kelli (08:12.511)
Right. But that doesn't like she's not getting messy. She's not getting sloppy.

Wendy (08:16.871)
she's a little messy. She's a little sloppy.

Lori (08:17.225)
In right. Yeah.

Kelli (08:18.711)
Well, messy, but not sloppy. I mean when Sonya drank, like she got sloppy, you know. I'm just saying like it's a little Sonya ish with her tails and twists.

Wendy (08:22.908)
Well.

Wendy (08:28.73)
Yeah. Yeah. I I mean I can see that. I just yeah, I like I said I want to like her. I do wanna like her. I just wish she would come clean and tell us the real story. Because guess what? Her mom is out there telling the real story. I mean, you look like an idiot. Like how how are you gonna g how are you gonna get on the reunion?

Kelli (08:39.222)
Yeah.

I know, which she it's making her look bad.

But is her mom out here trying to have a moment too? Right.

Wendy (08:51.629)
No. I don't think so. I don't think so. I really Where else has your mom been? Besides

Lori (08:51.757)
There you go. There you see.

Kelli (08:56.225)
It's not like she's trash but w it's not like she's out she's on the show trashing her parents. She's really not.

Wendy (09:03.215)
I th I don't know.

Lori (09:04.471)
I think her mom's a little w I think her mom's a little wacky. We had this discuss discussion.

Wendy (09:08.636)
Well, I do think her mom's wacky. I'm not I'm not gonna say that her mom is not wacky. I mean, you know, that apple does not fall far from the tree. That's where Harley's getting it from. A little bit. Yeah. We'll have to wait and see what happens.

Kelli (09:14.507)
Right. It's a little grey gardens.

Well yeah. Thankfully Sai tells Daisy all you did on that vacation was complain because somebody needed to say it.

Lori (09:20.759)
Yeah, we'll see.

Wendy (09:25.766)
And that's true. I know. And she still doesn't even admit to it, even when Cy points it out. She doesn't own it.

Kelli (09:30.815)
Th not even a little bit. But she does send Erica an orchid thanking her for the trip. Your home is beautiful. She didn't really did she say thank you. She didn't say thank you. She said your home but at the end she said your home is beautiful.

Lori (09:41.29)
No, she really didn't I don't think.

Wendy (09:42.684)
She did not she did not say thank you.

Lori (09:47.723)
And how about when Cy called her the popcorn princess?

Wendy (09:52.37)
That was great.

Kelli (09:52.929)
In front of her husband too, right?

Lori (09:53.058)
Good.

Wendy (09:55.462)
She said, You're insulting Eugene and she's like, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lori (09:57.037)
yeah, when we get to the party, yeah. But w I'm talking about when they were at yeah, when they were meet yeah, she did call out.

Kelli (09:59.0)
but she did it here too at Size House. Yeah. So Erica gets the flowers and she's like, Well, it's a little too late for you to be polite now. You should have been polite two weeks ago when we were on my island.

Lori (10:12.147)
Right. And now how about like s Daisy's always at Sai's apartment, it's Daisy inside. Daisy's always complaining about there's not enough food. Cy has all this sushi and she's not eating any of it.

Kelli (10:25.313)
Yeah, but don't you think Sai was pushing that fish, pushing that fish, 'cause she knows damn well she's not really a vegetarian. She's eaten fish at her house before.

Lori (10:30.854)
yeah.

Lori (10:34.189)
I didn't get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wendy (10:36.336)
Well she no no no no she has said actually it came out someplace that she's actually a pescatarian because Erica pointed it out. Maybe it was on the after show. Erica pointed it out.

Kelli (10:46.421)
Right, but at this point on the show, we didn't know that yet because she was insisting on the island she was a vegetarian.

Lori (10:50.347)
Right.

Lori (10:54.946)
Right.

Wendy (10:56.344)
Yeah. It's cr yeah.

Kelli (10:57.569)
Because Erica said, like my in laws are you know, they only eat whatever, you know, maybe they're pescatari like I'm sure she had fish and I mean listen, the bottom line is when Erica said, Whatever's on your preference sheet will be served. So

Wendy (11:02.31)
Vegetarians, right. Right.

Wendy (11:12.37)
Mm. Mm-hmm.

Lori (11:13.121)
Right. And Cy did say in her confessional that Daisy's always been a complainer slash hater.

Kelli (11:19.373)
Yep. And I've known her for over twenty years.

Wendy (11:20.636)
Right, she said Right. She says that's who she is and she always she always plays it off as I was just joking, I was just joking. But you know what? I was just joking, only goes so far. Only goes so far, Daisy.

Lori (11:30.389)
It's not funny. Right.

Kelli (11:32.587)
Right. And you're only saying you were joking because somebody took issue with what you were saying. Listen, you're trying to be funny. You're trying to be, you know, the comedian. it's fine, but you're also being insulting, so own it.

Wendy (11:38.022)
Right. You weren't joking.

Lori (11:46.241)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (11:47.804)
I mean the fact that the fact that Cy invites her over, right? And we find out that she Sai was pissed that Daisy was never going to her place. She was never going there. So she finally comes over there. She has this big spread of sushi. You know damn well Sai did not get it at the supermarket. She was where was she going?

Kelli (12:07.805)
I mean sa d no, there was no way. There was no way.

Wendy (12:10.734)
No there's no way. Right. I mean, if she wasn't so far downtown, I would have said she would have got it at Nobu. But because she's so far downtown, she went someplace and got tr real sushi. It wasn't supermarket sushi. They were fighting over whose fish place was better.

Kelli (12:22.723)
Well she said it at the end. I mean they they have their they have their fish place wars.

Wendy (12:29.594)
How crazy is that?

Kelli (12:31.235)
And Daisy's like, My fish please no size fish please gets their fish from my fish please. I thought you didn't eat fish, Daisy. Well now we know she does.

Wendy (12:35.653)
My fish place.

Right. And if and if Cy's fish place does get her fish from your fish place, then it's the same freaking fish, idiot. Exactly. Right? And then I also didn't like, speaking of fish places, I did not like Cy shading Costco shrimp because I will tell you this. Costco shrimp. Costco shrimp is top-notch. Do not shade Costco shrimp cocktail. Do not do it. Don't do it.

Kelli (12:46.719)
Exactly. Right.

Lori (12:46.763)
Right, so then what are you even saying? Stupid.

Kelli (12:57.065)
my God, do not sleep on Costco's shrimp cocktail.

Kelli (13:07.253)
It's in my notes. I totally agree. Costco's shrimp cocktail is the shrimp are huge and they're so fresh. Great cocktail sauce. And even the shrimp salads that they make. Don't sleep on Costco shrimp.

Wendy (13:09.18)
Don't do it. Don't do it. Just

Lori (13:09.269)
It's in my nose.

Wendy (13:15.282)
They're huge.

Wendy (13:21.66)
Very good. They're cerviche. Some Costco's actually down in Florida, they actually have sushi. And Bill yeah, when we were down in Florida, Bill got sushi and he I mean, he's Bill and it's Costco, so of course he loved it. But I'm sure it's good. I don't need sushi, so I can't say.

Kelli (13:29.581)
really?

Lori (13:30.049)
Wow.

Kelli (13:40.609)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (13:43.255)
Me neither.

Kelli (13:44.567)
Well, Abe and Aaron are at their home in the Hamptons, right? Is that where the home is? Yeah. talking about the damage. Who was who was that that they were with? Architect.

Wendy (13:50.278)
Yep. Yep.

Lori (13:50.539)
Yes. Mm-hmm. Sag harbour.

Wendy (13:55.282)
The architect.

Lori (13:56.546)
The architect and we and I had this whole discussion with you guys last time. It makes no sense. D there's no reason there's no reason to have an architect. It makes no sense.

Kelli (14:00.693)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. He's not an engineer and he's not a contractor. You're not rebu you're not building from the ground up. You're fixing what is already there.

Wendy (14:00.807)
Zach.

Wendy (14:04.442)
Nope. No.

Lori (14:10.411)
No. And you're not even remodeling you're not even changing any structure inside. So it makes it the whole thing makes no sense.

Wendy (14:16.058)
No. No, you're absolutely

Kelli (14:17.467)
I thought I totally agree with you and I thought two to three million dollars for bathroom floors and basement sounded like a lot of money.

Lori (14:31.309)
It's a lot of money. It makes no sense. And your homeowner's insurance is going to cover at least ninety percent of that. And if it's not, you need to hire an adjuster. Well, she said what she said was she did not cover personal property. So that means her content. So that means clothes, maybe the furniture.

Wendy (14:37.998)
I think there was an issue. I think that I think there was an issue with the homeowner's insurance.

Wendy (14:49.542)
Her contents.

Kelli (14:53.027)
Clothes, books, furniture.

Lori (14:56.745)
All that, but all your structural things will be covered under homeowners insurance because you have to have that.

Kelli (14:58.787)
Structure.

Wendy (15:01.896)
She she absolutely needs an adjuster. I, you know, I don't know if you ladies, have you ever really looked at your homeowner's insurance? Because not too long ago we switched insurance and I was getting quotes on the homeowner's portion between that and auto. And my accessory structure has $80,000 worth of coverage. I said to her, what is my accessory structure? I have a $5,000.

Lori (15:05.431)
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, she would need an adjuster if they're not covering it.

Wendy (15:26.286)
shed in my backyard. Are you saying I have eighty thousand dollar coverage on my five thousand dollar shed in the backyard? Because that's the only accessory structure I have. And she's like, Yeah, I guess so. I'm like, what? What?

Lori (15:34.401)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (15:41.344)
I went for a job once and I didn't know what it was and it was to it was to work for a company that does the adjusting, to be an adjuster. And it was so interesting. So I found out all about that. I didn't even know that even was a thing until I went for that job.

Wendy (15:43.077)
Hmm.

Kelli (15:57.43)
I love that Lori went for a job and she didn't even know what it was.

Wendy (15:57.513)
it's the thing.

Lori (16:01.045)
Yeah. Well you know how somet no, but sometimes those the jobs like that, like they won't exactly tell you what it is kind of a thing. Blah blah blah blah. You have to go and do the whole but it was very interesting. I learned a lot from that. So yeah, so if she has a problem, she needs to get an adjuster. So it's just stop it. So stop it.

Wendy (16:01.817)
I mean that's Lori. Yeah.

Kelli (16:10.263)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wendy (16:15.868)
Well I'll be

Kelli (16:15.939)
That is great.

Wendy (16:18.482)
She definitely needs to get an adjuster. You know, my sister used to do that. My sister was one of those insurance adjusters. Yes, she was. She wasn't very good at it because it's a sales job. But I will tell you this, just very recently and within yes. Yes, you were out there selling. 'Cause they get a percentage.

Kelli (16:30.241)
It's a sales job?

Lori (16:33.271)
Well you know what they do? You know what they do? They listen to like scanners. And if especially if there's a fire, they go to the fire and they try they're like like an ambulance chaser. Like they try and get the person who owns the house. Like they try and like bec

Wendy (16:43.167)
they de definitely do that.

Kelli (16:50.795)
so this is like a third party. This isn't somebody who like works for NJM. I'm thinking, you know, like an adjuster at your insurance company.

Wendy (16:53.672)
it's definitely no, no, no, no. It's definitely a third party. It's definitely a third party. No, when my sist

Lori (16:55.147)
No, no, no, it's third party.

Sometimes it sometimes it does make a lot of s let's not talk about insurance trusters. Finish talking about New York housewives. No. No one's listening to us wants to know about our insurance. We're going off on a tangent.

Wendy (17:02.727)
No it

No?

All right.

Kelli (17:10.167)
I know. We're going off. We're going off.

Wendy (17:11.654)
We do go off. All right, forget about insurance adjusters. All right. Back to this two to three million dollars. Crazy.

Kelli (17:14.123)
All right, forget about it. So Abe in his confessional says, Yeah, two to three million dollars. And he's like, it's a lot of pressure with the baby, the business, now the house, and you know, I get it. I forget that they have four kids. Not to give Erin any credit, but so Erin tells Abe that they left on good terms, she and Cy, but she can't believe the s the way Cy delivered to her, you know, d how she delivered, you know, her the rumor about Pavit.

Wendy (17:27.752)
Mm.

Lori (17:44.011)
And so all she's doing is she's playing the big ultimate victim.

Kelli (17:48.087)
for sure. And Abe's like, We knew this we knew this rumor for years. So so he's doubling down. Like, stop.

Lori (17:54.124)
Right. But don't act like you had this private conversation because you didn't. You had it with the makeup artist there. You're probably out at a restaurant. Don't act like stop.

Kelli (18:00.472)
Right. Right.

Kelli (18:07.903)
Absolutely. Right.

Wendy (18:09.714)
You know what I like about this whole big rumor about Pavet and Jessel? That neither one of them is bothered by it. Neither one of them. Pavet doesn't give a shit, n and neither does Jessel. They don't care.

Kelli (18:17.537)
No, of course not.

Lori (18:18.123)
No, no. No.

Kelli (18:24.343)
Because listen, first of all, we've had this conversation. Everything's fluid anyway. So listen, maybe maybe Pavid dated a man in the past. Who knows? Before he and Jessel got together. Who knows and who cares? Like, are you saying he you already said he cheated on her?

Wendy (18:32.562)
Who and who cares? That's it. Who cares? Right.

Lori (18:37.291)
Jessel Jessel would be the only one to care. So if she didn't care

Kelli (18:42.367)
Exactly. You already said he cheated on her. That she was unbothered by that too, because she knew it was false. And now that like who ca it's who cares?

Wendy (18:47.046)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (18:51.91)
Yeah, it's so true. They need to stop being so petty. Can they just go do fabulous new New York things? Like why can't they just go do f right.

Kelli (18:56.418)
Right.

You're in New York City. And we've we said this about season one on this show. You had you had a decent group of ladies. What you're having them do in New York City, d I mean, come on. It's the city that never sleeps. It's it's there's so many things going on every time you turn a corner. There's amazing things going on in New York. This is what you have these chicks doing. But this is production.

Lori (18:59.851)
Yeah. Fabulous New Year things. Right.

Wendy (19:05.084)
Yes, said

Wendy (19:11.346)
Horrible.

Lori (19:13.719)
Mm-hmm.

Right, there's awesome things to do.

Wendy (19:24.87)
I know. No, I I call BS on this whole thing. I've said this once and I'll say it again. New York City is a housewife in itself, but yet they don't ever feature it. Like they never feature it. And it's so sad. It's so sad.

Kelli (19:33.207)
Yes. No.

Lori (19:36.801)
No, it's horrible.

Kelli (19:39.94)
Mm-hmm. So now we're at Carol's apartment in the West Village. Daisy shows up. How about her? Carol tells her to take her shoes off and she's like, They're brand new. Holy cow. I mean, you can see the scuff marks on the screen from five feet away. She's a liar. Me too.

Wendy (19:48.186)
Lying?

Lori (19:50.061)
Straight up lying. Straight up lying.

Lori (19:58.126)
Straight up lion. So funny.

Wendy (20:00.752)
I love that Carol called her out on it. Let me see the bottoms.

Lori (20:03.765)
Yes.

Kelli (20:05.611)
Of course she has to say how fabulous the apartment is and that it's not decorated by Pier One imports. She's a kiss ass. Daisy is a kiss ass with Carol and Aaron. For sure. they're trash talking the trip again, saying that it took seventeen hours to get back. I'm so sorry you had a layover.

Wendy (20:15.08)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (20:22.394)
No Daisy's trash talking. Carol is not.

Kelli (20:26.388)
Carol kind of cosigned it a little bit though.

Wendy (20:29.544)
I don't think so.

Lori (20:30.057)
I looked listen, I've been to the British Virgin Islands. I live an hour away from Newark Airport. An hour and a half, an hour and forty-five from JFK. I've been there. It's a five and a half hour trip. I don't know Yeah, but right, so there was a problem, but

Wendy (20:49.576)
Well, they had a layover in Miami, I think is the problem. They had a layover. Th that's where the p issue is there was a layover in Miami. It wasn't a direct flight.

Kelli (20:50.775)
They had a layover.

Lori (20:58.753)
But I'm just saying it's it's a five and a half hour trip. So I don't know what happened to you people that it took you seventeen hours, but that is not the norm for traveling from New York to the British Virgin Islands.

Wendy (21:03.312)
Right. Right.

Kelli (21:14.295)
No, and Daisy brings up a private jet again and Carol's like, well, there were kind of too many of us, and she's like, Not really. But you know, that all goes by weight. So if there's seven of you and knowing you people, you got five bags each, it they probably couldn't because of the weight.

Wendy (21:30.544)
I'm sure they could.

Lori (21:30.593)
Doesn't doesn't really yeah, but it doesn't really matter 'cause

Kelli (21:32.811)
It doesn't matter.

Wendy (21:37.48)
I did not need to provide a private jet for these bitches 'cause they don't they don't appreciate it. She's a cast member. She's a first season cast member. It is not even paying for her rented wardrobe. Let's be real.

Kelli (21:41.075)
No. No. They don't appreciate it.

Kelli (21:51.276)
And let's f like they you're going to the island that's costing them money because they don't personally own the island. It's you know, they're sh shareholders. Plus they have a private chef there. Plus I'm sure there's, you know, housekeeping and they're already spending a ton of money for you to have this trip. You can't you can't how much would a flight be to the British Virgin Islands? I would imagine probably not that much because it's not that far from here.

Wendy (21:53.104)
Let's be real.

Lori (22:17.875)
No, it's it's not it's nothing crazy.

Kelli (22:20.427)
Right. It's not it's not even as far as going to California. Well, wait, five and a half, yeah, I guess it is. But either way, so you gotta pay for your own flight. Why don't you ask Martha to hook you up?

Lori (22:23.393)
Right.

Wendy (22:26.29)
So I think it w

Lori (22:26.335)
No. Bye.

Wendy (22:30.758)
Yeah, exactly. I think on the after show, because I did start watching the after shows and I'm not caught up on them, but I do believe that like Daisy was even doubling down about Erica saying that it was her family's private island. That it wasn't her birth family, it was her husband's family. Like that's not your family. I'm like, what the F is wrong with you? That is her family. That is your family.

Kelli (22:54.593)
Yeah, she's the worst. She should have asked Martha for her Christmas bonus early and maybe she could have gotten a a a better flight.

So Carol says the rumor that Cy brought up hurt Jessel and she you know, she's talking about Cy and she's like it's not really my experience with her that she's soft and you know, Daisy's like Cy's first reaction is always to be defensive.

Lori (23:18.081)
Yeah, she's not a warm and fuzzy or empathetic person. Yeah.

Kelli (23:20.417)
Yeah. Right. And then she goes into the supermarket sushi thing. And Carol says she doesn't like

Wendy (23:26.692)
Right. Carol's like, that's not my vibe. That's not my vibe.

Kelli (23:31.629)
How we should have played a drinking game. How many times does Carol say it's not my vibe in this episode?

Lori (23:35.565)
Yeah, she did say it a lot. She did say it a lot.

Wendy (23:35.888)
It's not my vibe.

Kelli (23:38.573)
Carol says she doesn't like onions. She likes a Macintosh apple because they're authentic. And she says Daisy's a Macintosh apple. She's talking shit about everybody behind their back.

Wendy (23:44.508)
Right.

Lori (23:51.03)
Well I could I could kinda understand what Carol was saying about about Cy. She's like, you know, I'm too old to like dick around with onions. I'm the same way. Like I don't wanna I don't I don't have time I don't wanna peel through all your bullshit to g to find out if you're really nice at your core. Like I could understand No, but I th no, but I think she was saying, you know

Kelli (24:03.052)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:12.919)
Right. But don't call Daisy authentic because she is not.

Lori (24:21.815)
Daisy does present to be who she is, and I haven't seen her lie.

Kelli (24:29.367)
Well, she doesn't come clean when she's called out on well, I guess she comes she's like, I'm g I was kidding, I was kidding. Well she just lied about her shoes though. Yeah.

Lori (24:33.419)
Right.

Wendy (24:35.782)
Yeah, I mean I d I mean I listen

Lori (24:35.809)
Right, but I haven't seen her lie. She did lie about them shoes. She did. That was her first one. I busted her on, yeah.

Wendy (24:44.85)
I mean, listen, I loved when Carol and her confessional said, like you said, she's like, you know, I'm too old. And I get that. She's like, I know when you peel back an onion, you're gonna get an onion, you're not gonna get a watermelon. I'm like, I it's still an onion. All right. So I mean, I think that Cy is authentic. I think she's who she is. I think that she says what she thinks at the moment, and she will also apologize for it when she realizes how harsh it came across. And

Lori (24:55.741)
Right, there's still an onion in there.

Kelli (24:58.657)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:04.151)
I do too.

Lori (25:07.501)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (25:12.555)
How she's came right, came across.

Kelli (25:13.931)
And it's also like a def you know, sh of course she has a wall up. Look at how she grew up. She didn't, you know, and I and I know Daisy said it, like she doesn't she's not empathetic because she didn't grow up in a household with empathy. I grew up in a household with way too much empathy. I I am I am too empathetic it to my own fault. So you know, she's got a wall up. She's a tough cookie side.

Wendy (25:19.653)
Right.

Lori (25:25.405)
But they're right.

Lori (25:35.415)
I like how Yeah. I like how Carol said, psi is complicated in all the ways that are not interesting to me.

Wendy (25:38.727)
I did

Wendy (25:45.83)
how Daisy came up with that Psy is like an iPhone where you forgot your password and like she's a great person once you can get in there and figure it out. Which I was like, Wow, that's kind of that's really good. Yeah.

Kelli (25:56.834)
Right. That was yeah, that was really good. So then we see Carol goes to see Hallie and she's in bed full beat on the face a la a la rula, real housewives of Rhode Island. and Halley says

Wendy (26:07.73)
Glam. Yeah. Sick.

Lori (26:13.441)
Yes. Rhode Island, yep.

Wendy (26:15.932)
Mm-hmm. With that mask, the sleep mask on her head.

Kelli (26:21.677)
Yeah.

Lori (26:21.889)
Yes, as a bandana. As like a headband, as a head.

Wendy (26:23.696)
I mean c yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who were we kidding?

Kelli (26:25.027)
So she does say that she's been in sh been in bed sick, so she did have her makeup artist come over. So at least she owned up to it, unlike Rula. she got sick from sharing the shot glass at Tipsy Tennis because she's a germophobe, so any little germ is gonna make her sick. She definitely got sick on the flight. Yep.

Lori (26:34.431)
Yes.

Lori (26:41.799)
I got sick on the flight. On that commercial flight. With the layover.

Wendy (26:47.26)
Definitely. With that recirculated air. one hundred percent. One hundred percent.

Lori (26:50.494)
Air. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (26:50.985)
Yeah. Yeah. She says the trip was good and Carol asks her if she felt on the spot with like the firing off of the questions. And Haley's Yeah, they were tacky questions. she said, I'm not emotionally slutty. I do too. Yeah.

Lori (27:08.149)
I liked that.

Wendy (27:09.17)
my god, she said that twice. She's I I I don't understand why she said it twice. She's like, I'm not emotionally slutty. I'm not emotionally slutty. So what does that mean? You're physically slutty? I mean, seriously, like that's what I'm thinking. Like, why did you say that twice that you're not emotionally slutty? Like, what does that even mean?

Lori (27:11.948)
Yeah, she did.

Lori (27:21.249)
Maybe Maybe

Kelli (27:23.969)
Could be.

Lori (27:28.033)
I don't know. you don't know you didn't get what she was talking about?

Wendy (27:31.514)
No I like I said.

Kelli (27:32.872)
well emotionally slutty means that you just pour everything out. Like you just share all of your emotions. The opposite of side.

Lori (27:38.677)
And and that and that you right, and that you really like just totally let people in right away, kind of a thing.

Wendy (27:44.72)
And s okay. And I'm thinking that she's meaning that she's physically slutty. Because I was like, what the F is emotionally slutty. Well, I mean, I think she I think she I I think she a hundred percent is the way she has described it, which is why I thought she repeated it twice that she was not emotionally slutty. All right. Listen, I I learn something new every day. I'm not emotionally slutty either.

Kelli (27:51.989)
No. I mean she might be, but

Lori (27:55.031)
She might be.

Lori (28:00.077)
Maybe. Right, right. Now. Now.

Kelli (28:00.708)
Right. Right.

Lori (28:10.475)
And how about how she says Reuben is her baby?

Kelli (28:13.058)
I am.

Wendy (28:14.416)
You are

Kelli (28:16.535)
definitely emotionally slutty.

Lori (28:17.73)
Yeah, I'm not.

Wendy (28:18.95)
I'm not emotionally slutty, but I'm not physically slutty either.

Kelli (28:22.123)
Yeah. So Haley says Ruben does his own thing on Martha's Vineyard. And it was interesting when she was talking to Carol about men. She's like, you know, sometimes they don't bring anything to the table and I'm like a mom to Ruben. But isn't he bankrolling your life right now? He's bringing that to the table.

Lori (28:41.345)
He's bringing that to the table.

Wendy (28:43.142)
Would so love to meet Ruben. That would s it would like just make this make sense, maybe. But we're we're not gonna meet him. He doesn't wanna be on it. No. I don't blame him. I would not I would not do this.

Kelli (28:49.963)
Yeah. I agree. I don't think we are. Mm mm.

No. Well not when she she's saying she's at a new chapter and she's at a fork in the road and you know, if she met a woman she thought was worth it, she didn't finish the sentence, but I'm assuming she meant I'd leave Reuben.

Lori (29:07.713)
Right. But she implied.

Wendy (29:09.392)
had money. Well, if she had money and could support her. 'Cause Haley's not supporting herself.

Kelli (29:13.461)
Exactly. Exactly.

Yeah. She said women with women it's a different vibe again. sex is like Pilates and she has great arms because you have to be strong to hold yourself up in certain positions while you're having sex with a woman. I'd be screwed. I have zero upper arm strike.

Wendy (29:30.798)
I thought that was so I thought that was the most interesting thing.

Lori (29:30.989)
I didn't even want to think of that.

Lori (29:38.155)
And for a second I like tried to figure it out and I was like, No, I don't need one no. Like I don't want yes, I don't want to know.

Kelli (29:41.707)
I know, it's hurt it hurts my brain.

Wendy (29:43.826)
But how about when Carol in her confessional, we got to see Carol's guns? Because Carol is a slight woman. She is not a big woman, but she does have upper arm strength. I was like, Okay, Carol, you got it.

Lori (29:51.351)
She does have yeah.

Kelli (29:52.269)
She did have upper arm strength, for sure.

Kelli (29:58.178)
Yeah. So now we're finally at Abe's party. And they're renting a townhouse on the upper west side with multiple floors because she needs her kids on a different floor because she doesn't want to see them at a certain hour. And listen, Aaron, there's nothing wrong with that. That's probably the best thing you've said all season.

Wendy (30:02.29)
Thank goodness.

Lori (30:14.349)
Nothing wrong with that.

Right. It's actually very smart.

Kelli (30:22.113)
Daisy complains about the stairs as soon as she walks in.

Wendy (30:26.064)
That's what Daisy does. She just complains.

Kelli (30:27.565)
Daisy's an asshole. I'm sorry I'm saying it. I'm sorry if we lose monetization for that. I can't take it though.

Lori (30:27.725)
Just complain, complain, complain.

Wendy (30:33.416)
no, no, no, it's fine. I can I can bleep it out. But I don't understand her relationship with Eugene. This is what I want to understand. Because I Eugene seems like a very mild mannered, kind I mean, is talking to Erica about her extensions and her hair. And she's like, my gosh, you must know that these are extensions and

Kelli (30:45.569)
Nice and normal guy.

Lori (30:45.953)
Nice, mild mannered, sensible. Yes. Salt to the earth kind of girl. Guy, yeah.

Kelli (30:53.121)
loves Erica, you it's all about her hair. Yeah.

Wendy (31:01.446)
Daisy saying, he is infatuated with her. I do not get that relationship. I

Lori (31:06.721)
Yeah, at all. Yeah. I d but I didn't get that he was being like that towards Erica. Like it wasn't Well, yeah. Just having a conversation about a hair as a hairdresser.

Kelli (31:11.979)
No, I think they were just having a conversation. Right. Right. And she's got great hair.

Wendy (31:12.068)
No. They were having a conversation. I mean, who else was he gonna talk to? Who who else was he gonna talk to there? Him and Abe? Yeah.

Lori (31:22.123)
And I gotta say, gotta two I gotta say two things. Aaron, I'm sorry. Just was right. Your decorations were lame. Lame as hell. Lame. Horrible. Horrible. Yeah. Not well, I think Party City would be an upgrade from what you had going on. And what was the other thing I was gonna say? No, I forgot.

Wendy (31:30.28)
Ha ha ha.

Kelli (31:31.723)
ridiculous dollar store. Dollar store decorations. Party City. You're right. Party City. Right. Seriously.

Wendy (31:34.098)
Party City. I always like Party City.

Wendy (31:46.664)
What about Aaron's outfit?

Kelli (31:47.159)
Well I loved Eren's wait, not Eren I'm sorry, Erica's outfit. Erica was fire as the kids would say.

Lori (31:48.92)
this that was the other th you did? Eric is beautiful. Erin had on like a bathing suit top. She had a bathing suit top and leggings with a blazer. Yeah. No, that was bad.

Wendy (31:53.602)
outfit was great. Aaron was wearing leggings. Aaron had on a bathing suit top and leggings. Capri leggings with a blazer. No. No, Aaron. No. No.

Kelli (32:00.652)
And a blazer.

Kelli (32:06.315)
I told you last week I don't understand her her wardrobe choices at all. But this was iconic when Erica said to Daisy, I got your apology plant. And Daisy was like, What? It wasn't an apology plant. That was me being courteous. And Erica's like, I thought you were feeling bad. And Daisy's like, No, you should feel bad for having us travel for 17 hours.

Lori (32:11.019)
No. And maybe I'll remember the other thing 'cause I don't remember.

Wendy (32:16.558)
I loved it. And and Daisy's like, What?

Lori (32:16.653)
That was great.

Wendy (32:29.796)
I almost fell over when she said that.

Lori (32:32.525)
But I but you gotta love Erica. Erica was like, Girl, okay. I mean she thought it was she was 'cause you have to laugh 'cause it's just asinine.

Kelli (32:32.675)
She

Kelli (32:36.877)
Yeah. Right.

Kelli (32:44.214)
Asinine.

Carol is wearing the jacket that Daisy wanted to buy that day in The Real Real.

Lori (32:52.267)
Okay, so the real real is getting some some play here. What?

Wendy (32:52.584)
Okay. No, no, no. So I thought so too, but I was listening to page six and Evan Murphy and no, Danny Murphy and Evan Real. Well, they were talking about it because they thought so too. But they've concluded, and I agree with them, that first of all, the the word on the street is the sales guy got fired because the real real did not come off very good in that scene.

Kelli (33:18.519)
Why? I thought he was great because Daisy was acting like a bitch before that. And I thought he gave it right back to her. Great.

Lori (33:19.757)
I thought it was fine, I thought it was cute.

Wendy (33:24.616)
No. No. And there was no on the bottom, like real, real. Like they are distancing if if if they were getting paid, they would be playing this clip over. They are not getting paid. They're not getting paid.

Kelli (33:39.267)
I didn't get fired. He was cute. He should be snorky. Daisy go referred to him as a woman.

Lori (33:40.737)
No, he was cute. I liked him.

Wendy (33:42.12)
I thought he was snarky.

Lori (33:45.803)
She's a bit.

Wendy (33:46.856)
Listen to you, J.

Kelli (33:50.349)
She's like, there's no men here and they flashed at him.

Lori (33:50.765)
Clive.

Wendy (33:53.32)
Well, that was her being obnoxious. Yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah. No and no, I'm sorry in sales the customer's always right. I'm sorry. That's how sales works. Yeah, no, no, that's how sales works. If you were in if you were in sales and you were in the service in tr industry, the customer's always right.

Kelli (33:55.757)
Okay, so he gave it back to her.

Lori (33:55.884)
There you go. Yeah. like them.

Lori (34:02.429)
No.

Kelli (34:02.657)
Yeah, see, I could never.

Kelli (34:11.714)
Nope, can't do it.

Lori (34:13.197)
Now wait a second, what about Psy with her shin and kneecap are fractured, four torn ligaments, and the girl's wearing some heels? So stop lying. Stop lying.

Kelli (34:22.613)
I mean it's Vicky Gumvelson all over again. Put put your hokas on. Put your hokas on.

Wendy (34:24.84)
Ha ha ha.

Lori (34:28.087)
Ya hoka some. Hoka if you're listening, endorsement, endorsement. Some hoka and some peanut butter.

Wendy (34:28.12)
Mm-hmm. You guys need to get a brand deal with Hoka. And we would love one too.

Kelli (34:34.795)
Yes, yeah, yes.

Wendy (34:38.856)
Peanut butter? No. Encrustables. No. Encrustables and ochus. Peanut butter too. I mean, we'll even take English muffins. Listen to it, yeah.

Lori (34:40.023)
Peanut butter and jelly.

Kelli (34:42.402)
Uncrestables.

Lori (34:42.839)
Festivals. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, I take peanut any brand of peanut butter too.

Lori (34:51.265)
Yeah, I think that's not that too.

Kelli (34:51.407)
yeah. We love those around here. So Daisy puts on the jacket from The Real Real and keeps saying, This is my jacket. This is my jacket. I bought this jacket. No, you didn't because someone bought it before you. And that someone was Carol.

Wendy (34:58.92)
She This is mine.

Wendy (35:08.816)
It's so I don't I think I don't think it was set up. I'll be honest with you. Have you guys ever shopped the real have you have you ever done anything with the real real? So I have sh

Lori (35:08.875)
And who knows, that could all be d the whole thing could be a setup.

Kelli (35:15.191)
That's a crazy coincidence if that was not set up.

Lori (35:19.947)
No, no, because I told ya the commercial, everything looks ugly. I have.

Wendy (35:23.528)
Okay, so I have shopped the Real Real and I have sold on the Real Reel. I actually get emails from the Real Real all the time. Like they're trying to get me to come do these events. I will say if you want like designer things, you can get them for a very, very good price. So maybe the Real Real could sponsor us too. Because I yeah.

Kelli (35:25.26)
you have said that.

Lori (35:48.567)
I mean

Kelli (35:50.241)
Woo, now you're talking.

Wendy (35:53.013)
I am a believer of the real real. I am. If you want to sign her, I mean if you don't want to sign her, then no, they're not the person for you.

Kelli (35:58.467)
I'm gonna check it out.

Lori (35:58.558)
All right. Well, I will tell you I have on this s it's a sweatsuit, okay? Now, it's kinda quilted. My daughter told me it looked like a mattress, but it's Lanz N and I paid eight dollars for it at Goodwill.

Wendy (36:04.296)
What do you have?

Okay.

Kelli (36:09.336)
Yeah.

Wendy (36:12.369)
Okay.

Kelli (36:16.483)
Woo-hoo!

Wendy (36:17.596)
That's fabulous. I don't think Land's End qualifies for the Real Real. But that is a great that's a great deal. No. No. No. And I mean, I would I would love to get the goodwill to sponsor us, but I think that's not that's kind of like yeah, no, it is. It's not.

Kelli (36:19.084)
Nice.

Lori (36:23.561)
No, absolutely not. But on

Kelli (36:23.969)
No, but but they're not selling it for eight dollars.

Lori (36:28.085)
Right. But I'm just trying to I'm just trying to give you where I'm at in comparison to the real real

Kelli (36:32.065)
Yes, yes, yes, to the real real.

Lori (36:38.611)
It's horrible place. Yeah. I only I shop there once in a while, but I will not donate to them. This is a night for tangents.

Wendy (36:44.112)
No.

Kelli (36:45.539)
All right. Yeah, I know. All right, so Cy asks Daisy and Erica if they've kissed and made up and Daisy says why did Daisy say a moth came straight out of Anker's pocket?

Wendy (36:47.207)
Mm.

Lori (36:57.409)
Because Erica said the plant came with a moth and then Daisy said, no no moth came out of anchor pocket. I thought that was pretty funny.

Wendy (37:00.571)
With them off.

Kelli (37:02.851)
Wendy (37:09.114)
I did not think it was funny.

Kelli (37:10.733)
So now Devin shows up, who is Ev Erin's friend, but she is also friends with Jessel. She's she was on the real world on MTV, and I have to look it up because I watched most seasons of that. I I don't necessarily remember her, but she did look familiar. So it could be like I might have, you know, at some point we aged out of the real world. So could have been after that. So

Wendy (37:24.346)
I did too. I did not know that.

Lori (37:25.25)
Wendy (37:37.928)
I think we've aged out of a lot of things, but doesn't mean we're not going back.

Kelli (37:39.97)
Yeah. Yeah. That's right. So Devin and Cy have met once. Cy says to Daisy, I heard you were yeah. So Devin and Cy have met once. Cy says to Daisy, I heard you were talking about the sushi at my house. And the look on Daisy's face was like, Who told you that? so Carol told Haley, Haley told Cy because Cy showed up at Haley's right after Carol.

Lori (37:41.463)
Basically, most things.

Kelli (38:07.885)
beat feet out of there, couldn't get out of there quick enough. So Sai says to Eugene, Your wife is so judgmental and popcorn princess is insulting everyone. And Eugene couldn't get out of there fast enough. He walked right away.

Wendy (38:21.544)
I felt bad for him.

Kelli (38:23.693)
Sai says your shrimp looked like it was from Costco and we've already discussed that. Don't do that.

Wendy (38:29.106)
Your nanny threw it out, she said. I was like, What? Her nanny threw it out?

Kelli (38:32.417)
Yeah. So Size Fish Market is fishtails in Brooklyn. And Daisy says Size Fish Mark buys their fish from my fish market. And then she says to Cy, I'm self-deprecating. I'm being funny. It's not self-deprecating when you're talking about other people. You stunod.

Lori (38:47.873)
She does not know the mien.

Wendy (38:47.879)
Right.

Wendy (38:51.41)
Somebody else

Lori (38:52.129)
When you're talking about yourself. Yeah, she doesn't know. She doesn't know. She does not know the meaning.

Wendy (38:54.6)
That's what I said. I said the same thing.

Kelli (38:57.813)
You ca you are when you make fun of yourself, it's self-deprecating. You moron. Like I don't I don't do stupid people. She's stupid. She's just stupid. Stick with the makeup.

Wendy (38:59.152)
Stu not so sto not.

Lori (39:02.103)
Right. Right. She doesn't know.

Wendy (39:07.56)
She's stupid.

Wendy (39:12.328)
yeah. I bet she does great false eyelashes.

Kelli (39:17.951)
She probably does. She's very attractive. She does good makeup, obviously. Yeah.

Lori (39:18.315)
I bet you don't.

Wendy (39:20.328)
She Yeah, sh she just needs to keep her mouth shut. That's really what ne Yeah.

Lori (39:21.193)
She's a beautiful girl. Beautiful.

Kelli (39:25.441)
She really does. And size, like, here I I'm opening up to you, and your takeaway was that my sushi wasn't up to your standards.

Wendy (39:32.742)
Yeah, that's not cool. Not cool.

Lori (39:32.802)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (39:34.677)
No. So here I wrote this because we just said it on Potomac. All these women are mad at the people repeating what they're saying, but not taking accountability for saying it in the first place. And it's the same thing going on in Potomac. Yeah. Right.

Wendy (39:47.238)
Right. They're not man at the originator. Absolutely. And meanwhile, when all this shit's going on, Aaron's kids are coming back home. And what about the argument between Aaron and Abe in the stairwell? And that was a hundred percent real. That was one hundred percent real. Aaron was being a biatch, and I get where Abe was coming from. But

Kelli (40:03.841)
Now that's real shit. That was real.

Lori (40:04.013)
kinda felt like that was real. I kinda felt like that was real.

Wendy (40:15.45)
I also see Erin's side as a mom, but Abe is right because they're paying somebody to put the kids to bed. So let them put the kids to bed.

Kelli (40:17.567)
Exactly.

Lori (40:18.103)
Right. Right.

Kelli (40:24.119)
They should have had the party out. They probably couldn't afford it. Honestly, that's probably the only reason they didn't have it out.

Lori (40:24.343)
Absolutely.

Right. Right.

Wendy (40:29.08)
Or kept kept the kids out. Send the kids someplace to sleep over. Don't bring the kids back.

Lori (40:35.361)
Right.

Kelli (40:35.711)
It must have been on a weeknight. She said they had school in the morning. I did see both sides. I think that Erin was like, listen

Wendy (40:38.568)
I she

The fact that she had to get the bottle for the baby, I'm like, my God. In the middle of the party. Right.

Kelli (40:45.587)
She's like, I'm filming a show. I'm getting paid to do this. I know it's your birthday party that we're filming right now, but but Abe's point too, like if we're paying somebody, let them do it. But it looked like the kids were not listening to whoever they had there, babysitting them. Right. They were getting stressed out. That was a very real moment. I like I said earlier, I forget that she has four kids. That is a lot.

Lori (40:57.997)
Then what are you doing? Right.

Wendy (40:58.275)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (41:04.69)
Well, they weren't even listening to Aaron.

Lori (41:06.615)
They won't even listen to her.

Lori (41:14.441)
Mm-hmm. And they're young.

Wendy (41:14.598)
And they're young. I mean, nine, eleven, a baby, and I don't know what age the other one is, but those kids are I mean, they're they're typical kids. And kids in a situation like that are gonna do whatever they can to take advantage of the situation. There's all this food around, there's all these people. You're telling me to go to bed. Her daughter says, Which floor should I go to? Which floor should I go to? Andrew's like, Aaron's like, go to bed. Aaron's like, go to bed. She's like, No. She's like, Well then give me your iPad.

Kelli (41:16.205)
Right.

Kelli (41:22.647)
Yeah.

Lori (41:22.732)
Right.

Kelli (41:29.515)
yeah.

Kelli (41:34.711)
Yeah, like where's your bedroom? That's a daisy question.

Lori (41:36.205)
Hee.

Wendy (41:44.392)
was like, boy, there's a standoff here. It was definitely real.

Kelli (41:45.665)
Yeah, that was all very, very real.

Lori (41:45.707)
Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was real. Yes. And see, that's what I prefer to see.

Kelli (41:51.843)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Wendy (41:52.752)
Me too, me too. Me too. I'd rather see that than this fake fighting over stupid bullshit that someone said three years ago.

Kelli (42:00.406)
Exactly. So Carol's telling her friend and the new girl, Devin, that Cy and she had a bumpy start and Devin's like, me too. So Carol's like, I don't mind that vindication. Sai tells Erica that she met Devin once with Jessel and it was a weird interaction. And Erica's like, Well, I heard that you said her Instagram irritated you. And Sai's like, I never saw her Instagram.

Lori (42:11.757)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (42:11.996)
Right.

Kelli (42:28.801)
And then Jessel shows up two hours late. This chick cannot get it together. Yeah. Yeah, she did.

Wendy (42:31.327)
my gosh.

Lori (42:32.555)
And she looked like a Christmas ornament. She looked like Mrs. Claus. What are you doing?

Wendy (42:38.856)
I don't get I don't get why Jessel shows up so late.

Kelli (42:42.633)
I mean, I think it's just the Dorit factor.

Lori (42:42.889)
It's really r it's a really rude thing.

Wendy (42:46.106)
Is that what it is? I don't like it. I don't I like t two hours ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It is. It is.

Kelli (42:47.491)
Mm-hmm.

I don't like it either. Two hours is that's very rude.

Lori (42:50.229)
Yeah. It's rude. It's rude.

Kelli (42:56.471)
So she says Jessel's like, I'm gonna come to the party because I like Abe. It's not his fault he's married to a moron.

Lori (43:03.487)
And but listen, s do you s notice how Abe got a confessional? I was like, yeah, after that.

Kelli (43:08.386)
Yes.

Wendy (43:08.976)
Yeah, well he needed one. He needed to explain that whole bullshit in the stairwell. I mean, how else would we have known that they hired somebody to take care of this?

Kelli (43:13.847)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (43:14.101)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (43:17.751)
Right, right. Cy asks Carol if she was trying to avoid her at Haley's house the other day and Carol doesn't really answer. So Jessel introduces Cy to Devin and Sy's like, I know her. And then Devin repeats the Instagram story and Sy's like I don't think I said that and Jessel's like, Yeah, no, you said it. So then in her confessional Sigh goes through Devin's Instagram. She's like, Well, it is annoying. It doesn't interest me.

Wendy (43:25.553)
No.

Wendy (43:44.06)
Right. And that is why I like Sy, because when Jessel called her out on it and she was standing there in front of Aaron, she said, Listen, I apologize for coming off very bitchy. This is who I am. And sometimes I can be a see you next Tuesday. So she is self aware. She is self aware. Not that I excuse it, but she is self aware and she apologizes.

Kelli (43:59.16)
Yes.

Lori (44:02.143)
Right, but this is the thing this is the thing, Wendy. Right. Right.

Kelli (44:08.289)
Yeah. Right.

Lori (44:10.401)
Right, but pretty but at some point you need to stop the behavior that you have to continually apologize for. I think that's the problem.

Kelli (44:19.351)
Right. You can't just keep saying you're sorry, you're sorry, you're sorry.

Lori (44:22.165)
And this is me, this is me, this is me. Because

Kelli (44:25.069)
But you know, sometimes I think it's like, did you hear you know, okay, so say these cast members got their contracts, they knew they were coming back. And then like there's like the scutter bug, like, did you hear like this this n other chick, Devin might be joining the show? And you're like, Who the who the F is Devin? And you look up her Instagram, you're like, whatever. Like you don't know she's gonna be on the show and you're gonna have to be accountable for what you just said about some chick you don't know whose Instagram you just scrolled.

Lori (44:42.187)
Yeah, right.

Lori (44:50.827)
Right. Now listen, and I know I'm not a big Daisy fan or anything, but I think that there is there is some truth to what she says about Cy. And I and I don't think she's being malicious when she says this is why no one likes you. I don't think that Cy necessarily has a lot of friends and when okay, this is how you grew up, these have been your experiences.

But at some point in life, you have to stop being so defensive. You have to stop putting up such a wool. You have to stop being such an onion. You have to at some point you have to stop that. And I think there's some truth in what she's in what Daisy's saying. You can't keep coming so hard all the time.

Kelli (45:42.606)
Well her so so Cy's standing across the room yelling Carol's name over and over. Obviously that's not gonna get it's not gonna get a lot of people's attention. It's certainly not gonna get Carol's attention. Carol's not gonna bite that, you know, take that bait. So Cy is screaming Carol's name not screaming, yelling Carol's name, and then Daisy makes some kind of you know, Daisy's just like, You should have said, like, excuse me, Carol. And Sai's like, shut the F up. And then Daisy starts yelling.

Lori (46:10.893)
Right. You're not my mom. Right.

Kelli (46:12.375)
Carol, Carol, Carol over and over again. And Carol's like, Don't scream my name to get my attention. And then Daisy says to to Cy This is why people don't like you. And then they start arguing. And then Cy walks away, but Daisy follows her and they continue to argue.

Wendy (46:30.32)
Yeah, it wasn't good.

Kelli (46:32.415)
It wasn't good. So, you know, and then in the middle of all of it, so Jessel's making fun of the decorations. It really wasn't the time. But somebody had to say it.

Lori (46:32.459)
No, it wasn't good.

Wendy (46:33.87)
It wasn't good.

Lori (46:43.445)
I think she was doing it I think she was doing it to kinda like l to deflect and kind of lighten it.

Wendy (46:47.304)
To deflect. Because yeah, because she was trying to, she was standing next to Cy when Daisy was coming for Cy. And Jessel was trying to tell Daisy, like, you know, you're you're being a little harsh, right? Which is why I really think that Jessel and Cy are friends. That being said, I don't disagree with what you're saying, Lori, about Daisy and about Cy. I do think that Csai does at some point need to say take some accountability, but

Kelli (47:01.379)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (47:16.466)
This is Sai's third season on the show. This is Daisy's first season on the show. And for Daisy is going to call her out like that in a situation, l I listen, I can't respect it. I just can't respect it. If she

Lori (47:19.949)
First. Right. Right.

Kelli (47:21.047)
And you're supposed to be her good friend.

Lori (47:32.149)
No, I'm not saying I'm not saying Daisy went about it the right way at all. Not at all. Like, come on, don't don't don't be calling the girl out.

Wendy (47:37.244)
Yeah. That would have been the conversation to have in size apartment. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (47:42.391)
Right the next day when everybody's calmed down.

Lori (47:42.622)
Right. Right. And I also think that Cy is c probably feeling very much on the outs with the whole group. And she's and she's going through a separation. And I think Daisy in some way thought that when she came into this that her and Cy were gonna be the same buddy buddy, that they were as friends, not on the show, but then she made friends

Wendy (47:51.686)
Yes.

Lori (48:11.327)
outside of Sy, and I think it's just a whole weird dynamic going on.

Wendy (48:18.106)
No, I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that.

Kelli (48:18.583)
Well

Sigh leaves

Kelli (48:27.831)
Did you catch that Jessel said well Carol's not talking nice about Cy either? Jessel said that like twice. So somebody's telling Jessel what Carol's been saying about Cy. And I just wonder who it is. Is it Hallie? It's gotta be it's somebody, right?

Wendy (48:35.482)
Yeah, it's true.

Wendy (48:44.72)
It's I think it's Haley. I think it's Hailey. Or like you say, it's either Haley or Daisy, 'cause those are the two that Carol is is closest to right now, right?

Lori (48:44.885)
It's either Haley or Daisy.

Lori (48:52.471)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Kelli (48:52.727)
Yeah. So Cy leaves. Daisy says she's a condescending CU next Tuesday. But I'll tell you what, that's basically the end of the episode. The preview of Erica having a party next week and Daisy not being invited and Erin being like, I I actually was invited. She's like, Can you believe we weren't invited? And Erin's like, I actually was invited.

Lori (49:00.045)
Yeah, I was like, ooh.

Wendy (49:14.95)
Yeah, but then seeing the whole thing where d Daisy goes up to production and says, I'm not being ganged up by s seven women, and we see a s a a stool in the pool.

Lori (49:27.638)
I didn't see that.

Kelli (49:28.523)
I didn't see that either. And I watched it on Peacock.

Wendy (49:29.849)
yeah, that's come no, I watched it on No, I didn't watch it on Peacock.

Lori (49:32.172)
Yeah.

Kelli (49:34.901)
okay. No, they didn't.

Lori (49:35.083)
They didn't show that on Peacock. They did not show they did not show that on Peacock.

Wendy (49:36.772)
yeah. yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't know if that's Erica's party or not, but Daisy's there, she walks up to production, they're at a table, like they're at a dinner table. It is probably Erica's party. And she is like saying to production, I'm not gonna be ganged up by these these women. And then you look over and there's a like a bar stool in the pool.

Lori (49:57.976)
maybe that was on yeah, yeah, yeah, it was on there. Yeah.

Kelli (49:58.5)
yeah yeah yeah. I thought yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I've I didn't see it l you know, when I watched it on Peacock, but I did see that preview at some point.

Wendy (50:07.792)
Yeah. So listen, next week's gonna be good.

Kelli (50:10.453)
Next week's gonna be very good. Listen, I d I don't mind New York. I don't know why the ratings are so bad. I think that people were just so fed up with the last two seasons. They're like, I'm not even gonna bother. But it's actually not bad. People should watch it. Potomac isn't good, but New York's pretty good.

Lori (50:18.655)
Right, they're not only to go there. Right.

Listen, if you want to hear comments like I don't give a rat's cock if she likes me, you can watch New York when Cy said that. That was funny as hell. I thought that was great. I might have to use that. But that's the thing with them too, is that Cy totally does not care what anybody thinks about her. And in some ways, that can be a really good quality. And Daisy cares. Right, Carol doesn't care.

Wendy (50:30.537)
my God, watch New York. I I've never heard that in my life.

Kelli (50:31.939)
Me neither. I didn't yeah.

Kelli (50:45.088)
No, she doesn't.

Wendy (50:48.946)
You know who else doesn't care? Carol doesn't care. Carol does not care. Carol does not care. And I yes, yes.

Kelli (50:52.139)
No, Carol does not care.

Lori (50:55.915)
Right. But Daisy cares too much. So the problem is they're they're opposite they're opposite sides. Both of them need to come into the middle of that and they'll be much better people, both of them, if they're in the middle.

Kelli (51:03.586)
Yeah.

Wendy (51:11.056)
I know I totally agree with that. I want to ask you guys a question. You two. So I got a text message today from Pam, and it's my group text with Pam and Gerilyn and me, the three of us. And she said, in every friend thruple, there is the mediator, the nice one, and the blunt one. And she asked us who is who. So I'm going to ask you guys in our thruple.

Who is the mediator? Who is the blunt one? And who is the nice one?

Kelli (51:47.839)
I think I'm the blunt one, Wendy's the mediator, and Lori's the nice one. I do. That's

Lori (51:53.281)
You too. I thought I thought

Wendy (51:54.065)
Lori, what do you think?

No, what do you think?

Lori (51:59.244)
I know that's what I'm saying. I thought and I'm thinking of what I thought. Wednesday. There's broken party parts. Just let me think. I think that Wendy is the blunt one, and I think Kelly is the mediator, and I think I'm the nice one. But I don't think I'm really that nice, but I think that's what you guys think.

Wendy (52:19.729)
Really?

Kelli (52:24.534)
Interesting.

Wendy (52:25.101)
I think I think that I am the mediator.

I think Kelly is the blunt one. And Lori is the nice one. I agree with Kelly. So in my group with Geralyn and Pam, I said, I think I'm the mediator. Pam is definitely the blunt one. And and Geraldyn is the nice one. And they all agreed with me in that group. But I feel like I am a mediator because I am always trying to

Lori (52:48.865)
The blunt one.

Kelli (52:49.419)
One hundred percent. Yeah.

Lori (52:51.789)
There's Gerald's nice one. Interesting.

Wendy (52:59.302)
I'm always trying to see another side and I'm always trying to find the good in people. Whereas I feel like Kelly is not listen, I feel like Kelly says what she thinks immediately and she goes from zero to a hundred like that. Right? And I feel like Lori kind of probably feels the same way as Kelly, but she holds back.

Kelli (53:01.965)
Right.

Kelli (53:13.09)
One hundred percent.

Lori (53:22.497)
Sometimes, sometimes not. Yeah.

Wendy (53:23.432)
So listen, let's ask our listeners. I think it's a great question too. Let's ask our listeners which one of us do you think we are? Who's the mediator, who's the nice one, and who's the blunt one? Let us know what your thoughts are.

Kelli (53:24.621)
Sometimes, yeah.

I thought that was that was a great question though.

Kelli (53:34.947)
Right.

Kelli (53:39.107)
Great question.

Lori (53:40.545)
Yeah. Or what is in what do they have in their relationships? Wh who are which one are they?

Wendy (53:45.274)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (53:47.95)
I gotta think about this with my sisters and I, but I have to share really quick. I know we're approaching an hour, but I had such a Gen X moment and I have to share this because I didn't even realize. So my handsome nephew Nick and his beautiful wife Sarah got married on October 10th in a such a beautiful outdoor wedding. And the next day I wanted to post a picture on my Instagram and tag both of them, which I thought I did.

Lori (54:13.687)
I don't know.

Kelli (54:16.149)
I added a picture of them at their wedding and I thought I tagged them to be in the picture. So three weeks later, Tess and I are in the car last night and

Wendy (54:16.52)
Yeah.

Kelli (54:30.037)
She's like, I opened up my Instagram to show her something. And she's like, Why is your story green? Why do you have a private story with close friends? I'm like, What?

Apparently when I created that story of Nick and Sarah, instead of tagging them, I made them close friends and had that so now every time I've shared a story since then, only Nick and Sarah see it and see that I've made them close friends to only them see mine story. I'm like, I am so effing old.

Lori (55:04.523)
Well, I would have to call Wendy and say, How do I do this? Because I'm even worse than you. I g I couldn't even I couldn't even do it and mess it up.

Kelli (55:08.003)
Thank God Tess like clicked a button and got rid of it, but I

I sent Sarah a message today. I'm like, I'm an idiot and I'm old. And I told her what I did. So every time I've shared something to my story for the past three weeks, only Nick and Sarah have seen it as my close friends, my private story. And you know, I share a lot of stories.

Wendy (55:20.082)
Ha ha ha

Lori (55:27.596)
So I didn't.

Wendy (55:29.819)
my God, that's so funny.

Lori (55:31.298)
Yes.

Wendy (55:33.862)
You actually do share a lot of stories. You do. I do. But I Yes, yes. Yes, yes. You do.

Kelli (55:35.868)
I know about the Bills, about the Knicks, about being Italian. A lot of a lot of stuff goes on.

So Nick and Sarah have been on my private story for three weeks.

Lori (55:45.611)
And I wouldn't know. Cause I can't figure out how to switch from our Facebook to mine without nothing something about So I only have work Facebook, so I don't know what anybody people die, they get married. I don't know I don't know anything I don't know nothing 'cause some re whine whenever.

Wendy (55:48.272)
Yeah.

Kelli (55:52.879)
Ha.

Wendy (55:58.536)
Every time every time Lori's doing something with our account, I'll I'll get this like email notification. Someone's trying to sign in. Someone's trying to log in. Someone's trying to log in. I'm like, my gosh, what is Lori doing?

Kelli (55:58.625)
my god.

Kelli (56:08.739)
Someone's trying to log on.

Lori (56:09.741)
It's always bumping me out. Yeah.

I can't. I can't. It's too much. Yeah, it's too much. You'll see you'll s you'll see one day.

Kelli (56:16.867)
So funny. Bear with us, people. Well, thank you for watching and listening. And yeah, yeah, you will. please subscribe to our YouTube, follow us on social, five star reviews, and comment. We love the engagement. Bye.

Wendy (56:24.104)
Yeah.

Lori (56:33.207)
Yes.

Wendy (56:34.054)
Bye.