RHONY Nobody’s Vault Is Safe

Kelli (00:00.972)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:03.37)
And I'm Laurie.

Kelli (00:05.41)
Tonight we're talking about Rooney, Real Housewives of New York, season sixteen, episode one. It's back, the price of perfection.

Lori (00:14.987)
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

okay, so maybe it's a nod to sigh?

Kelli (00:24.201)
what the title? I don't get it. I guess I guess. Yeah.

Lori (00:25.439)
Yeah. I'm thinking it's a nod I'm thinking it's a nod to sigh like because she tried to put it out there like everything was perfect and it wasn't. I think that's it.

Kelli (00:37.09)
Yes. It must be. So we s we start out with someone dictating, which sounds like Carol, and then it turns out to be Carol Radswell, who was on I didn't bother to look it up. I was never a huge fan of Carol. Well, that's not true. I liked Carol in the beginning. she was on Real Housewise of New York back when Luann, Ramona

Lori (00:57.441)
She was on what?

Lori (01:02.458)
okay. okay. So it's an old one that they brought back.

Kelli (01:07.562)
She was on with Bethany and she and Bethany became very fast friends. And they traveled together and they did a lot together. And then this girl, Tinsley, joined the show. And Carol, for some reason, did a complete 180 on Bethany and kind of turned on her and started hanging out with Tinsley. It was very weird. It was very weird, I thought. and I know

Lori (01:30.589)
Mm. Mm.

Kelli (01:36.321)
I know everyone like I know not ever like people hate Bethany. I well, dislike Bethany strongly, but whether you like Bethany or not, it was very odd what how Carol turned on her, I thought. Carol was also married to John F. Kennedy Junior's cousin. And she wrote a book called What Remains about his passing because they got married and then he died shortly thereafter of cancer.

Lori (01:49.559)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (01:55.222)
Okay.

Kelli (02:05.292)
She spent a lot of time with John John and Carolyn Bassett, his wife Upa you know. Yeah. They had they she she had that connection to the Kennedys. So it was very Carrie Bradshaw though, Sex in the City, the way the show opened, right?

Lori (02:11.034)
huh.

Lori (02:20.693)
Yes, yes, yes. yeah, very much so. Very much a nod to. And I was like, Okay. Little you know, it was certainly creative. Certainly creative.

Kelli (02:28.365)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:32.46)
It was interesting because that's all we saw of Carol the entire first episode. So I'm not sure if she's an actual housewife or a friend of, quite honestly.

Lori (02:36.489)
Right, yeah. So I I kinda liked it. I believe that no, I think that she I think that she is. 'Cause I think in the upcoming scenes we saw her. But I like it I don't know if she's a friend or yeah, I don't know.

Kelli (02:51.073)
actually I think that

the picture of them holding the apples, I thought that dress she's wearing is horrible. I think I remember thinking that.

Lori (03:01.163)
Yes, I remember thinking that too. Yes, it's no good. No good. Yeah. Yeah, no good. No good. No good. Yes.

Kelli (03:03.992)
That dress was bad. That was like straight up like bad eighties fashion. Yeah. So, we meet Daisy, one of the new housewives we've never seen before. She lives in Battery City and she's a makeup artist and w one of her clients is Martha Stewart. And Martha Stewart shows up at her house and

She's like, Yeah, it's really weird. One week I'm doing Martha's makeup and then the next week I'm riding a camel with her.

I I'd like to hang out with Martha Stewart, I think.

Lori (03:40.092)
I think Martha's I think Martha Stewart is probably a hoot and a half. Because she's

Kelli (03:46.454)
Yeah. I mean, I'd really like to hang out with Martha Stewart if she's hanging out with Snoop.

Lori (03:50.678)
Snoop, absolutely. But the fact that that Martha can hang out with Snoop just lets you know that you could hang with Martha.

Kelli (04:00.992)
Yes, I totally agree. However, well we'll get there.

I d I did not love that Martha Stewart told that story about John F. Kennedy Jr. and that she asked him if he had a co pilot and she was like, You should have a p co pilot. I'm sorry. I I thought that that was very tacky that she talked about that. Just my opinion.

Lori (04:25.077)
Yeah. I guess she was just trying to be relevant.

Kelli (04:28.918)
Yes, yes. Yeah. So we find out that Daisy learned how to do makeup at scores. Now I've frequented some strip clubs in my day. And I'm not gonna lie, I used to listen to Howard Stern and I always did want to go to scores because of the way Howard Stern talked about scores. Like I just I mean, didn't you just think you were gonna walk into scores and just it was gonna be like a Miss America pageant. Like these women were just gonna be like goddesses.

Lori (04:29.759)
You know.

Lori (04:45.247)
Yes, yes. I remember I'm talking about scores, yeah.

Lori (04:53.697)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm. So I'm thinking as I'm listening to the show, I'm thinking, okay, so either you were cocktail waitresses, you inside, or you were bartenders.

Kelli (05:09.164)
Yes. Or bartenders. Yeah, her and Cy. So she met Cy at scores, when they were in their early twenties, and she keeps saying over and over again, We were not strippers, we were not strippers, we were not strippers. So yes. Cocktail waitresses or bartenders. And I'm sure they made bank. Yeah. I always think of the movie Hustler with J Lo when I think about scores. That was that

Lori (05:16.033)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (05:21.451)
Yes.

Lori (05:25.535)
Yeah. So that's what I was thinking. It was one of the

Lori (05:34.547)
Mm-hmm. Yep, absolutely.

Kelli (05:38.433)
It it it's not like a fantastic movie, but what's interesting to me is that it's based on a true story and these are real people and they really did this to these guys. So it's an interesting movie to me to watch. she said so this is how the John John things come up. She's she tells Martha Stewart that she's reading Carol's book. And Martha says she I I don't even want to repeat the story because quite honestly, I really think it was

Lori (05:45.591)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (05:48.917)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lori (05:53.548)
Yes.

Kelli (06:07.126)
And the fact that she said John F. Kennedy Jr. called her and said, I need help about his failing magazine. Now, do you think if John F. Kennedy Jr.'s magazine was failing, Martha Stewart is who he's calling for help? I you really do.

Lori (06:22.687)
I do. I do. Yeah. Martha Stewart knows her shit with publications. Yes. Yes. She's had a very, very, very successful magazine for decades. So I did I certainly did believe that that when she said that. Yes. I could see that happening in a second.

Kelli (06:28.639)
Okay. All right.

Kelli (06:40.59)
All right, I'll g all right, I'll give it to her. I just I still I just felt like it was just very D classe A that she was speaking about the way he passed and what led up to that. But again, my opinion.

Lori (06:46.967)
Poor taste, yeah. The deceased. Right, right. But also it was it was listen, there are times when you are your family is hosting an event and I call your husband Martha Stewart. So so but but it it was very on par for her to say something like that.

Kelli (07:09.346)
That is true. This is true.

Lori (07:16.779)
Because she's Martha Stewart. She knows best on how to do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, so I think it was very on par with her to be like, well, you know, I told him if he would only listen to my advice, because I know how to bake a cake, I know how to decorate a pumpkin, and I know how to tell you how to fly too. So

Kelli (07:24.024)
That is correct.

Kelli (07:29.068)
Yes.

Kelli (07:33.876)
Right, right. 'Cause I know best.

Yes.

And I yes. And I will teach you how to bake a pie so you don't have a store bought one in your house.

Lori (07:45.543)
Right, because I do all the things well. So I'm just going to do them in

Kelli (07:49.292)
Ha ha ha.

Kelli (07:53.784)
Yeah, very true.

Lori (07:54.37)
You know what mean? So that's kind of how I kind of took all this stuff that she had to say. But I thought it was funny her making comments about the, like you said, like the pie and the way her pots were hanging and bitching bitching her out for her Mackenzie Child's teapot. And it's like, okay, Martha, bitch, you know you got your own pot line. Why don't you send your girl Daisy some pots? Send her some pots. Set a bitching.

Kelli (08:02.317)
so

Kelli (08:08.076)
she totally trashed her kitchen. She totally trashed her kitchen.

Kelli (08:19.532)
Yeah, then send her some over.

That's probably why she said that, 'cause the other sides are so ugly, hint hint. Send me some of your pots and pants. So Daisy has an eight year old son, Quentin, who is the light of her life, and she apparently keeps wine in his bedroom.

Lori (08:23.979)
But I thought it was I thought it was funny.

Yeah. Yeah, Brighter was fun.

Kelli (08:41.304)
Catch that.

Lori (08:42.433)
Yeah, understandable.

I didn't particularly like how it's the first episode and she's already like dogging her old man. Like when I married him, he would drink like three vodkas and I thought, this guy's a fun time. Now he's kinda boring. Like you know what I mean? She said one or two things and I was like, It's first seas it's like first show. It's like, yeah. Acting like fifteen years of marriage was like this.

Kelli (09:01.484)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (09:07.714)
Yeah, let's ease into it, Daisy. Let's ease into it. Yeah.

Lori (09:15.315)
exhausting amount of time. I'm like, bitch, wait till you get to thirty. It's just I don't know what you're talking about.

Kelli (09:17.356)
Right. Yep.

Exactly. Then we see Cy in her apartment and Jessel shows up. Cy says she finally moved to Manhattan. I forgot she was in Brooklyn up until now. the kids are thriving and now she has a new best friend, Jessel. And then we flash back to Cy not being necessarily nice to Jessel the past two seasons.

Lori (09:32.257)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (09:42.325)
Well, her whole gig now that it's all out in the open, she was totally projecting everything that was going on with her onto Jessel.

Kelli (09:52.097)
Right. Right. Now I've said since the beginning of this, Eren and Cy are mean girls. And then that was season one. And then season two, Cy kind of redeemed herself a bit. She tried to show a softer side. Erin was still a fucking mean girl. I cannot stand her. Cannot stand her.

Lori (10:06.857)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Two stars already. Yeah.

always. Has been from the very beginning. No, I can't stand it. From the very beginning. So now Cy, it's interesting, you know, in the beginning she's talking about they have the new apartment, but that apartment was never had anything to do with him because their divorce was April two thousand twenty six and the filming began March two thousand twenty six.

They were already separated. He never moved into that apartment with her. They were already living separate.

Kelli (10:47.694)
It's only September. They only started filming in March.

Lori (10:51.069)
I looked it up because I looked up because I was thinking about this. I was thinking about this. I'm like, she's not mentioning like the divorce. She's but they divorced in April twenty twenty six. Filming began in March. So they must have already been already separated for a while. He was never he had never lived there. Right. That's what I was like, mm, let me, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (11:08.344)
They were already separated for a while.

He never went to the Manhattan apartment. Got it.

Got it. Yeah, Jessel asks Cy if David likes Manhattan and Sai's like, I really don't care. She says they've completely drifted apart. They do nothing together. All she does is work to take care of the kids and she's financially supporting the family and she feels alone. She said he finally got a job, but it's not enough. So you're right. So they probably she was probably like, I'm moving to Manhattan with my children.

You need to get your shit together. I personally think this guy might have a drinking problem.

Lori (11:53.448)
Who knows? Listen, you met him in a bar, he was married. Like it's a r

Kelli (12:01.696)
Now we find out she was she worked at scores. So did she meet him at scores?

Lori (12:05.867)
Yes, yes, yes. Because I remember that last season her saying that they met at a bar that they both worked at together. So he was probably a bartender.

Kelli (12:22.072)
think they have male bartenders that scores, but maybe he I don't know. Maybe he did something there. Maybe he was a bouncer. Maybe he was a bouncer.

Lori (12:26.257)
Maybe it was a bouncer, maybe it was management. Who maybe it was management, I don't know, but that's like that's a bad environment. I mean, some people do get lucky and make their dough and run, but it's has the potential to be a bad environment. You know, there's a lot of goings on there. So not surprised. But listen to

Kelli (12:43.34)
Right. Not a lot.

Lori (12:54.195)
She's the one with the platform. She's the one with the show. Basically, she can really say anything she wants about him. And unless he wants to pay the money to say you're speaking falsely about me, she can really say whatever she wants. So who knows? It could be true, it could be not true.

Kelli (13:10.882)
Right. Absolutely.

Yep. So Jessel says she knew they were going through a rough patch, and Sai says she was living a lie and she's been trying to protect him. That's what led me to believe that maybe this guy's got a little bit of an issue. She says she asked for a separation and she kept telling herself she was happy every day, but at this point she's at a breaking point. And then Cy apologizes to Jessel for poking fun at Jessel's relationship.

Lori (13:28.183)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (13:44.972)
Which we've never seen Erin do once.

Cy says, Daisy and Erin know what's going what she's going through, but no one else. And Jessel says, Well, you know how I feel about her, meaning Erin. And Jessel says that she and Erin have had their differences and then they lost their fathers within months of each other, so they kind of bonded over that. And then they went to the ultimate girls' trip finale at the Berkshires, which we're gonna see soon coming up on this season. And then she found out that Erin was going around calling her untrustworthy and fake.

Lori (13:59.64)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (14:07.863)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (14:19.275)
And the snake.

Kelli (14:20.844)
And a snake and this totally checks out because Erin's a mean girl. so they both say to each other, I'm a vault, I'm a vault, but you just had this conversation on national T V. So I I don't know who you think you're keeping it from.

Lori (14:24.257)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (14:28.288)
And even

Lori (14:34.375)
Right.

Right. I mean it even got to the point we see later on where Chanel IN calls her and says And I like how production did that. I like how production did that, gave you like the actual voicemail from her, like it was good.

Kelli (14:47.032)
Watch out for that bitch.

Kelli (14:53.47)
Absolutely I want to know who the other person was. Cause she kept saying, Two people told me, two people.

Lori (14:57.301)
Yeah. Two people, yeah, we'll get to that. Yeah, yeah, that was

Kelli (15:03.606)
So now we meet Haley, who's rollerblading around the city in a fur coat.

Lori (15:07.617)
Fan, fan of, fan of Haley. Love Haley right away. Rollerblading in a fur with a cart. I love it. She's my girl. She's my girl. Love her. Love her. Love her. Love her.

Kelli (15:11.831)
You love Haley.

Kelli (15:22.072)
Yeah.

Lori's got a fan fave.

So she lives in Hell's Kitchen. and then we see Erin walking to her place while she's talking to Haley, complaining about her mom. Erin's complaining about her mom. And Haley says she has two places, one with her husband and one for herself. A pata I'm not gonna say it correctly. How do you say it? Pied a tear. her husband won't do the dishes, he won't make a bed, and she feels like a servant when she's there, but when she's at her place,

Lori (15:50.391)
Pierre de Terre.

Kelli (16:00.449)
It's her rules. She's got protein bars in her oven in the box. She's only got beverages in her refrigerator. She's got ten thousand dollars worth of sunglasses in her cabinet. This is how Lori needs to live.

Lori (16:10.977)
So I wanna ask her this. Yes, but I wanna ask her this. Okay. So why two things. Why is your husband so ill trained that he can't do a dish when he's at home? And when you are in your pied de terre, who's washing the dishes? Are you washing the dishes? So what's the difference? Something, something. She was the one

Kelli (16:30.414)
That's right.

I feel like she's got staff there doing it. Not at her piad whatever, I'm not gonna say it right. But at when her hub with her she leaves her husband alone.

Lori (16:41.051)
She was the one Yeah, she was the one who was saying that the fifteen years is forever. But I think she said she was in like a lavender marriage, correct? 'Cause she can only fool around with girls.

Kelli (16:55.032)
Well a lavender marriage is when you're married to a gay man.

Lori (16:58.079)
Yes, I believe that's what she said. I think that's what she said. Yes, I believe so. I believe so. Or unless or unless I just heard that Yeah, unless I just heard other people saying that and now I'm saying it. I'm not quite sure.

Kelli (17:00.726)
You think sh he's gay?

Kelli (17:06.335)
okay. And so she can only fool around with women, not another man.

Kelli (17:15.476)
Okay. I don't remember hearing that, but I could be r you I'm sure you heard it and I just didn't hear it. 'Cause you know when you're taking notes you can't sometimes you miss.

Lori (17:22.879)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't. And I love how she says how she recommends it to everyone. Well, I certainly would love my own apartment somewhere that I could go off and be by myself. I would love that. But yeah, not e we're not

Kelli (17:36.514)
I j I just want my own room. I can't wait for one of these kids to move out so I can have my own room.

Lori (17:42.153)
Not that fortunate.

Kelli (17:44.279)
Right. And I don't mean to sleep in, maybe sometimes. I just want a bedroom where I can make my basically my closet, an office where I can work, and put it like a futon in there or like a little single bed, you know, I just something.

Lori (17:45.271)
It's funny.

Lori (17:53.898)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Well how how how many meers you've been married?

Kelli (18:01.307)
we are coming up on twenty five years of marriage, Eric and I.

Lori (18:04.919)
Okay, five years from now, you let me know if sleeping separately is sounding really good. You gotta ask you.

Kelli (18:12.93)
it already is. And and quite honestly, Eric falls asleep in the recliner most nights. And if he doesn't wake his ass up and come to bed, he we do sleep separately, but

Lori (18:20.755)
there you go.

Lori (18:27.351)
See something like that I couldn't take. Like it either has to be from the very beginning to the very end. Like if you fall as am I you fall asleep on the couch. You but you but stay there. You have to stay there because if you come in and now you're gonna w no. No. I will do it to him with no problem. But he sleeps a lot s very sound.

Kelli (18:27.67)
Now, for the most part, we sleep in the same.

Kelli (18:40.654)
You gotta stay on the couch.

Kelli (18:48.002)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (18:56.578)
More sound. Yeah. I'm a very light sleeper. Any little thing can wake me up and then I'm ping for the rest of the night.

Lori (18:56.885)
So I can yeah. So I can come

Lori (19:03.135)
Yes, yes, yes. See that that would make me very, very, very angry. So it it has to be from the getting go. So just not that anyone needs to know this, but just in case you're aware.

Kelli (19:18.53)
So Erin, you know, she's at Haley's house. She starts to cry because

I have a really hard time feeling sorry for this one. Other other than her losing her father, but she starts to cry because

Lori (19:31.553)
But listen, she's got a lot but she's got a lot of kids.

She got a lot of kids. I know. I don't like her either. I I don't like her either. And you know what? I noticed she in her confessional, she's borrowing from Jenna Lyons. She's got on the oversized man's shirt unbuttoned to the belly with the necklaces. I was like, look at you. Look at you. yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Kelli (19:38.7)
There's nothing you could say right now to give me any s it make me feel s sympathy for her.

Kelli (20:00.588)
I did not even realize. that's very interesting.

Lori (20:04.575)
You'll see you'll see now because I'm sure there'll be other scenes in her other confessionals with that on. And now you can look at it, you'll be like,

Kelli (20:08.204)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (20:12.81)
Interesting. Okay. Well, Erin starts to cry because everything today was a lot. And her daughter's been acting out and it's stressing her out. And she's really just, you know, letting it out. How her daughter's been acting out and she doesn't know why. And she's looking her for her attention and and

Haley is just focused on the fact that Erin still has her shoes on. Why is she wearing her shoes in my place? And she could care less about the daughter.

Lori (20:47.861)
Which I can understand. I can understand because it's very nasty. Like if I go to the city, I d I mean I don't like to wear shoes in my house anyway, but if I go to the city, they're definitely t taken off on my front porch and they're getting licewalt. So I can see that. So she but she was probably all Haley was probably all jacked up anyway.

Kelli (21:06.082)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

Kelli (21:12.056)
Well, we find out later she was high as a kite.

High as a jet blue whatever, whatever she said. she does say to Aaron, all mother-daughter relationships are difficult. Haley says she loves her mom very much, but she always felt responsible for her mom's happiness. She's the r her mom is the reason she dated John Gosslin. Didn't take very long for her to drop that she dated John Gosselin. I don't know why this woman thinks I well, I you know what? She doesn't think it's a flex because she goes on to say that.

Lori (21:20.778)
Yes.

Kelli (21:45.229)
She was called a homewrecker. I don't remember any of this, but I gotta tell you, I hated Kate Gosselin from the minute I saw her. I knew what she was all about. I saw right through her. She wanted to be famous, that woman, and it was gonna happen come hell or high water at the expense of anyone, including her own damn husband and her children. But I don't remember hearing that John Gosslin had like a mistress and she was a homewrecker.

Lori (21:59.894)
Mm-hmm. yeah, yeah.

Lori (22:06.335)
Yeah.

Lori (22:13.333)
No. But now there's a big difference in the way that Haley looked in the photos with John Gosling to the way that she looks now.

Kelli (22:26.53)
Damn straight. There was a lot of plastic surgery in between.

Lori (22:27.947)
Big difference. There's a lot going on. Do you know what? Listen, there's things that I would certainly love to do and none of them are major. But these girls just don't mess with your stuff so much. Because she's beautiful either way. But I I don't why would you want to look like a she looks like a totally different person? I don't understand that. But okay.

Kelli (22:55.798)
Yeah, I I agree with you. There's a very vast difference between the way she looked then. Yes. Yep. So then she says all the women I've dated have had issues with their daughters.

Lori (23:00.075)
Fast difference. I was like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Kelli (23:10.548)
And Erin's like, Uh-huh. She's like, Well, I can date a woman but not a man. And one time a woman was using a dildo on her and her double Ds, the woman's double D's broke Haley's nose. Now, I'm gonna tell you right now, as a woman with d triple D's, sometimes E's, I've never broken her nose. So

Lori (23:26.261)
What were they cement filled?

Lori (23:39.543)
That's what I'm saying. What are they cement build? What what do you I don't understand. Yeah, that's that's what I'm thinking.

Kelli (23:40.224)
Right. Unless they're filled with cement. That's a bad fucking boob job. If you're br if you're cracking noses with your boobs, that's a bad boob job. You're gonna wanna you're gonna wanna get a refund on those.

Lori (23:51.85)
Yeah.

Lori (23:57.89)
So

Lori (24:02.465)
Just the the thought myself with just a normal old C now cresting sixty.

They're not where they used to be. The the thought of the the feeling of the weight of something that would break a nose hanging off of my body is just I I can't even I can't even

Kelli (24:18.03)
Mm-mm.

Kelli (24:40.354)
Yeah, it's not fun.

So we're at Jessel and Pavit's house and Pavit's making pasta and Jessel says Pavet is figuring out his career and he's focusing on his food influencing career. And she's having a year of the horse party. Now, do you remember last season when they were talking about preschool for their kids? And they're talking about their kids going to preschool with I I I believe she said Tom Cruise's kids. Now, I don't know why thirty thousand dollars per

Lori (24:51.777)
Still.

Kelli (25:12.098)
Tuition per child is ringing in my head, but that's ringing in my head.

Lori (25:15.637)
It was some yeah, it was something crazy, crazy.

Kelli (25:18.304)
I don't think I don't think embarking food influencing salary is covering sixty grand in tuition for his twins. So what are we doing? Are we and I like Jessel, but are our was that preschool like a bunch of bullshit?

Lori (25:24.875)
Got that dough. No.

Lori (25:39.017)
I think I think her parents I think her parents got a lot to do.

Kelli (25:44.876)
And her father did pass away.

Lori (25:46.679)
I think yeah, but I think even when he was live, I think they have a they have a lot of dough. I think that was the deal. I think her parents have a lot of dough.

Kelli (25:56.909)
Okay. And maybe his do too. And so he doesn't have to commit to a career. Although I think he had a pretty big career out in LA before they moved to New York to become on this show. Like I they definitely moved to New York to be on the show. I remember that. Checking out, but Jessel says last year was a shit year for her. Her dad passed away. and it was the year of the snake. So she wants to celebrate the year of the horse, and she's having a

Lori (25:58.444)
That's my thinking.

Yeah, I guess so.

Lori (26:07.914)
Yeah, yeah, who knows.

Yes.

Kelli (26:26.904)
Lunar New Year Party.

So then we see Cy goes to the real real and she's meeting Daisy there and she's setting alarms off everywhere.

Lori (26:37.655)
Okay, wait a second.

Wait a second.

I have seen commercials for the Real Real.

Lori (26:50.359)
None of them have anything in it that I would consider purchasing for hundreds and hundreds of dollars. I've never seen a commercial with such horrible, ugly garments in my life. Next time you see a real, real commercial.

Kelli (27:07.468)
I've ever seen a real, real commercial. I know there's an app. I mean it's all like Gucci and it's all like high end shit, right?

Lori (27:10.869)
Okay, well maybe yes, and there's right i and this is my point. There are some beautiful, beautiful, exquisite clothing that's very expensive. I don't know what they're doing in the commercial because not one of those things is there. I want you to go on YouTube or something, and I want you to look up real, real commercial, and I want you to tell me what you think about the garments that are shown.

Kelli (27:33.815)
Okay.

Kelli (27:40.118)
Okay. I definitely will report back on that.

Lori (27:42.943)
Yes. So yes, she's setting off alarms.

Kelli (27:47.331)
Yeah, and then Daisy starts undressing right in the store to try on clothes. And sighed to the to the guy who works there is like, Are you all right? Because this is like this is just how she rolls. Like this is just

Lori (27:51.466)
I love her.

Lori (27:58.678)
And she's like, There's no men here. I guess only gay guys. I'm like, Okay, so Yeah and he's standing there, she's asking him, Are you okay? He's like, Yeah, I'm okay. Okay.

Kelli (28:03.784)
And he the guy standing right there.

Kelli (28:12.248)
So Daisy's excited that her husband Eugene is coming to the party. He's a hairstylist and

She says Eugene Catfister, like you said, on their first date. He had three margaritas and now she finishes his margaritas. I mean, your man ordered a margarita.

Lori (28:35.959)
But I do like her. Yeah, I do like her though.

Kelli (28:36.022)
I'm just saying. I like her a lot. And I like her husband. Then she sees this beautiful long, I don't know, was it leather that jacket? It was really beautiful. And it was $1,300. And she was like, I don't give a shit. I'm getting it. And then she goes to buy it. And the guy's like, ooh, same guy. Ooh, somebody just bought it online. I can't scan it. He was so full of shit because I think he

Lori (28:40.566)
Yes.

Lori (28:45.675)
Yeah, rather check.

Lori (28:58.271)
I think that's that's fake. That was fake. That was fake.

Kelli (29:04.202)
He found great pleasure in telling her she could not have that jacket after she said, There are no men here. He was not sorry to give her that news.

Lori (29:13.683)
No, no, no, no. But it was so so produced though. It was very produced.

Kelli (29:17.558)
Yes, for sure. For sure. So we're at Jessel's lunar party and we meet Erica, Jessel's friend. she's married to Anker Jean, a billionaire, and then we find out she rented her dress. And listen.

Lori (29:35.219)
Love her. I love very smart woman. It's a great concept. My daughter used to do rent the runway all the time when she would go to

Kelli (29:39.202)
Exactly.

Kelli (29:44.12)
Keep those billions in the bank, honey, and rent the dress.

Lori (29:46.592)
Yep, yep. With rent address. My daughter would go to the ballet, she would rent from rent and random way all the time. It's an awesome, fun, fun, fun thing. It's very smart. So I liked when she said that. And here's something for you. I think Erin got her boobs done.

Kelli (29:56.547)
That's great.

I love it.

Kelli (30:06.488)
I think you're right now that you say that. I didn't and now that you say that.

Lori (30:07.623)
I don't think I don't think that I don't think that I don't think that she got them upped a lot. No big, you know, huge different cup size thing. Didn't go up like three sizes, but I feel like she did something. So it was a lot of attention she was paying in the dr in her dress and adjusting her

Kelli (30:19.426)
Yes.

Kelli (30:26.112)
Yeah. And you know, didn't she have a baby since we've seen her last? I th maybe she had like a mommy makeover. I think you're right now that you say that though. A lot of attention was being focused on the girls.

Lori (30:35.861)
Yeah.

Lori (30:39.697)
Lot of attention was being focused on her on her neckline. She was adjusting it a lot. It was just I was like, okay, I see you.

Kelli (30:43.97)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (30:49.26)
Yeah. Eugen Eugene and Daisy show up and then Haley with a friend, Alison. and Haley refers to Alison as her date and says that they can hook up.

Lori (31:04.053)
Right. And how messed how messed up was it of Aaron to tell the cement boob story to the date? I was like, what?

Kelli (31:05.006)
So that's good to know.

Kelli (31:17.12)
I totally agree with you.

But this is what she does. Like she's almost she's almost socially awkward, Erin, where she just starts like mouth vomiting. Like word vomiting. Yeah, she's very socially awkward, quite honestly. Sai says she wasn't really a fan of Haley's when they met, but now she's getting to know her and she's charmingly eccentric. That's a nice way to put it.

Lori (31:28.444)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Lori (31:34.507)
Yeah, I was like

Lori (31:44.683)
That's my goal in life. It is to be charmingly eccentric. Yes, I think that that is a very noble goal.

Kelli (31:46.638)
To be charmingly eccentric.

Kelli (31:57.175)
I like it. Erin and Abe show up. Jessel is not excited to see Erin, and neither am I. Erica's talking to Erin and says, Jessel is my good friend, and Erin just says, Yeah, she's nice.

Lori (32:14.071)
She was funny. She was kinda trying to she was trying to like trying to pump her a little bit. Yeah.

Kelli (32:20.186)
yeah. Erica's like, So what's the tension? And Erin's like, I don't have any tension. Does Jessel have tension? She's like, You could tell me And Erica's like, I sense some tension.

Lori (32:35.073)
She was basically nicely saying to her, Jessel's my friend, so what's your problem, bitch? And I liked it.

Kelli (32:41.676)
Right. Right. And then Haley asks Jessel, did she ask her, Are you still going through IVF? That's what she said, right? And Jessel's like, Who told you that?

Lori (32:50.625)
She said something like that, yeah. Right. And I love her because I think this is what we're gonna get from her. She's just gonna be like Well, I I really don't remember the whole conversation, but something was said. It's gonna be the whole thing. I like it.

Kelli (33:05.214)
Right. Right, exactly. Yeah, 'cause Jessel's like, Who told you that? And then she definitely reads the room and realized she shouldn't have repeated that. And then we flash back to Erin telling Haley all about Jessel's personal life. And that's when Haley says she was high as a jet blew flight, she doesn't remember. And Jessel says Erin likes to offer information that isn't hers and she doesn't mind if Haley knows, but it's not Erin's story to tell. And word on that, Jessel.

Lori (33:14.081)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (33:19.575)
Mm.

Kelli (33:35.171)
And then Haley says that Erin said Cy is going through a lot. And Sai's like, wait a minute, what'd she say? But then they do flash back and really that's literally all Erin said was that Cy was going through a lot. So I listen, there's nothing wrong with that. What she did with Jessil was wrong, but her and Jessel aren't in a good place. And Erin's a mean girl and messy. So of course she's gonna do that. But she wasn't really being messy with the Cy thing. I didn't.

Lori (33:44.075)
And which she didn't that right. It was what she said. Yes. Yes.

Lori (33:56.856)
Right. Right.

No, no.

Kelli (34:03.838)
Jessel gives a speech and says she has been obsessed with the Chinese Zodiac. 2026 is the gear of the fire horse. She's strong, she knows who she is, doesn't care about who talks about her. And Eren clearly received the message. and says to Abe that was shady. and then Erin approaches Jessel after the speech and asks, What's the problem? Jessel says she's heard.

She's on a smear campaign about her and Erin says, I don't talk about you and Jessel's like, you so you don't talk about me ever. I got messages from people from the Ultimate Girls Trip finale saying that you called me fake and a snake and Erin's like, Yeah, I have said that and I do feel that way.

Lori (34:47.329)
But but before that she did deny it.

Kelli (34:51.766)
Yes, yes, she did. She did. And w I think when Jessel used the exact words that she said, she was like, shit. They you know.

Lori (34:52.769)
She did. She did. She tried to deny it.

Mm-hmm. Right. And I love how she said Yeah, I did say that, but to only two two people. So then why you so why you so hung up on who it was? It's a fifty fifty shot. Like, why is that your focus? Who said it? How about the focus be that you said it?

Kelli (35:12.459)
Exactly.

Kelli (35:20.536)
She was so heavily focused on to hold to who said it. And then she's like

Lori (35:25.589)
Right. And like I said, fifty fifty chance. You you already said it was just two people, so what are you doing?

Kelli (35:31.779)
And then Jessel plays the message from Chanel Ayan. And at the end she says, pay attention to that bitch. And Erin's like, Why didn't you call me? That's what a friend would do. You're not her friend. You treated her badly for two years. You shit on her marriage. You made fun of her husband. You're not her friend. You're still doing it. Why would she call you? No, instead, you're gonna start filming.

Lori (35:44.969)
You're not her friend.

Lori (35:51.893)
And you're still doing it. And you're still doing it. So why is she gonna call you up? Right.

Kelli (36:00.995)
She's gonna invite you to the party because she wants you to come there, and then she's gonna kick your ass out to humiliate you. Cause that's what a housewife would do.

Lori (36:07.276)
Right.

Right. Exactly.

Kelli (36:14.286)
And Aaron's calling Jessel thirsty, but to me, Aaron is way more thirsty than Jessel. Is Jessel's a fan favorite? People love Jessel.

Lori (36:26.527)
I always liked her. I have really never cared for her.

Kelli (36:28.021)
I did too.

No, me neither. I'm not a fan at all. And quite honestly, I didn't even want to watch this season because they were bringing her back. I was like, God, here we go. But I actually did enjoy this this first episode. Cy brings up that Erin told Haley she was going through a hard time and Erin says, I was protecting you because Haley said something about Cy. I don't even remember what she said. She's a potster or whatever the hell she said. And

Kelli (37:02.612)
Aaron says to Jessel, I don't trust you, and points to Cy and says, And neither do you And Sai says, I do trust Jessel and I've opened up to Jessel. And Aaron didn't like that at all.

Lori (37:13.439)
No. And I feel like

The whole reason that there was even this year of the horse party is because the whole Chanel Ion comment about the snake. Like without that comment, without that comment, there would be no that girl just so don't give a fuck about Chinese astrology. But they it's a whole production thing, like

Kelli (37:32.522)
yeah.

Kelli (37:40.952)
Zodiac. That's all right. That's all right.

Lori (37:46.443)
They just took that whole snake comment, last year was year of the snake, so now we'll have the party with the whore and the the whole thing. Like it was just like, Okay, I see. I see, I see.

Kelli (37:53.986)
Yep. I think you're right.

I think you're right. So

Lori (38:00.01)
They I could be on the I could be on the production team.

Kelli (38:03.202)
Yes, for sure. Erin says Jessel twists stories. Erin says she's the fakest person. She knows. And then Jessel tells her to leave. Erin says for years Cy and Jessel have not gotten along, but now overnight they became instant besties. And then Erin and Cy kind of start talking to each other, but then security comes over and tells Erin she's gotta go.

Lori (38:31.059)
And I l and I love how Jess right I love how Jess was like, what's with that coat?

Kelli (38:31.191)
And I'm not mad at it.

Kelli (38:37.966)
Like she had to get the last word in.

Lori (38:40.823)
'Cause it was j it was just like a like a shitty old navy quilted little

Kelli (38:49.974)
Yeah, it was definitely o I mean, I don't know. Well, you said they started filming in March, so it maybe it was still cold out. I don't know.

Lori (38:56.779)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but but wear but where come on, wear a coat that goes with your outfit. Don't be wearing like that coat that she had on was like a coat you would wear like with like a turtleneck and a pair of jeans in the fall. Like it was not like your No.

Kelli (39:11.446)
Yes, yes, yes. Not to a cocktail party.

Yeah. No.

Lori (39:18.239)
It was just funny. But I thought Jessel's outfit Jessel's outfit that she had on, I thought was horrible. I'm like, girl, you look you look so good all the time.

Kelli (39:21.518)
Trying to find my mouse on the computer.

Kelli (39:30.808)
Jessel.

Lori (39:31.595)
Yeah, I didn't like our outfit that she wore at her own party.

What like I've said several times, I'm only giving these opinions because my own closet is just full of very high end couture. So that's why I can make a comment on

Kelli (39:36.91)
I mean it's funny 'cause I guess somebody

Kelli (39:47.009)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (39:54.444)
Absolutely. But I thought all in all it was a great first episode, quite honestly.

Lori (39:55.745)
Yes, so that's

Lori (39:59.989)
Yeah, it it was a lot better than I thought it was gonna be because I think you just had such low expectations of what it was gonna be.

Kelli (40:04.984)
Me too.

Kelli (40:11.02)
Yeah, 'cause I mean it's it th d I I wasn't a fan of the last sea I s certainly not last the last season. I mean Brynn was you know, she turned out to be batshit crazy that

Lori (40:15.447)
Okay.

No.

Lori (40:23.083)
I like it crazy now. Yes. Yeah. I liked her too.

Kelli (40:23.53)
I do miss Uba though. I really did like Uba. But not really the rest of them. But and I and I wasn't super happy that they brought Erin back 'cause I just I d I just don't like her.

Lori (40:34.196)
No, I could do without. I could do without.

Kelli (40:38.242)
Yeah. But whatever. We'll see how the season goes. It wasn't it wasn't bad though. Salt Lake City starts soon too. But Ultimate Girls Trip should be over by then. We should still be only doing three shows because Ultimate Girls Trip will be over by then. Yeah, three's enough. Three's enough. Yeah. All right. Well, thanks for watching and listening. Bye.

Lori (40:42.729)
I I guess so.

He

Lori (41:00.959)
Trace enough, trace enough. Okay.

Bye.