RHOM-Notes, Notaries & No More Nerves

Wendy (00:00.962)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy. We are talking about Real Housewives of Miami, season seven, episode number 12. Okay, the name of this one, also trying to rhyme, Uncivil in Seville, but it's Uncivil in Sevilla, so I don't know. They really are. We pick up where we left off back at the restaurant when Larsa was showing the...

Kelli (00:03.682)
I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:20.911)
They're really missing the mark.

Wendy (00:29.548)
the text messages. her, Larson in her confessional said, Jodie texted me, I'm trying to let it all drop, but you seem to not want to let this go like we've been trying to do. So she starts like telling us what the text messages are about in her confessional. I mean, later on in the episode, Lisa gives us the whole text message, which by the way, was nothing. It was.

Kelli (00:55.479)
It was nothing and I don't know where I heard it and it could have been on the show. Larsa and Jodie had history of texting each other. So maybe they said it on the show. Like it wasn't, like your husband and I have a history of texting each other, right? But you and Eric do not. So if this were a situation where you and Eric were all of a sudden texting each other, yeah, that could be like, what, wait, what?

Wendy (01:05.686)
Right. Right.

Wendy (01:13.622)
Right, but your husband and I don't have a history of texting. Right.

Wendy (01:24.81)
Right. Correct.

Kelli (01:24.889)
but not Bill and I. Yes. you know, that gave more, to me, that gave more clarification. They hadn't an established texting history. And like you said, when Lisa repeated what it said, it was nothing. I'm starting to think that Larsa is just mad that Lisa is getting attention.

Wendy (01:32.846)
Yeah.

Wendy (01:36.238)
Correct.

Wendy (01:40.151)
It was nothing.

Wendy (01:47.086)
I mean, I have lot of feelings about Larsa. I just think that...

Wendy (01:57.24)
She's just trying to be relevant. I think she's just trying to be relevant. And it's just ridiculous, to be honest with you.

Kelli (01:59.353)
Yes. Yes.

She's got, whatever's really going on in her life, she's not sharing with us. Marcus was a good stand-in for that the last few seasons or whatever. He's gone. But she's still using him as a storyline because she won't say his name, but she's still using him because honestly, if you were over it, why would you care who's following him?

Wendy (02:10.317)
Right.

Wendy (02:19.182)
Right.

Wendy (02:22.86)
Right, but she won't say his name.

Wendy (02:34.136)
I mean, you wouldn't. You really wouldn't. You wouldn't.

Kelli (02:35.865)
Why would you care? I don't understand why Lisa continued to follow him. I would have been like, okay, I'm sorry. Let me unfollow him.

Wendy (02:40.942)
I do. I do. I totally understand. It was just a power trip. You're not going to tell her what to do. That's what it was. It was.

Kelli (02:48.953)
Right. And it was like a power trip on both sides.

Wendy (02:53.782)
Yeah, I mean, I feel like Lisa has such little power that this is the only thing she could do, that this is what she was gonna do. You know what I'm saying?

Kelli (02:59.023)
Totally agree. And Adriana, like she made a good point. Like Lenny knows that Lisa's here. So he could have said, okay, I'll agree to blah, blah, blah, blah, only if Lisa signs within the hour.

Wendy (03:15.414)
Right. Yeah, just to make it more difficult for her. Right. I mean, it was legit. It was a legit thing. It's not like she was making it up. Yep.

Kelli (03:18.467)
Right. But it was obviously legit because Jodie was on the other line calling her, trying to get her a notary. Like at first I'm like, I've never heard of that. But when Adriana said that I was like, well, you know, it could be, that could be. And why wouldn't he do that? He's proven himself to be difficult in this divorce custody battle. So why wouldn't he? Why wouldn't we believe that he would do that?

Wendy (03:37.078)
Right. So.

Wendy (03:44.984)
whole time,

Right, right. I mean, and then Marisol comes back in the room and it's like, we have a situation. The situation is that Jodi's been texting, you know, all afternoon and Adriana said, well, you know, there's a legal thing going on here. Like, let's take care of this first and we'll deal with that tomorrow, which was the smart thing to do. Right, I mean, like that was like, let's get this taken care of. So Lisa asked the ladies to go back to the dinner. She's gonna excuse herself.

Kelli (04:05.401)
Yes, it was.

Wendy (04:13.346)
So she can take care of this. So she leaves, I guess she goes upstairs somewhere, you know, there's someplace she can go. Larsa's sitting there saying that she wants to get off this ride, that she thinks she's on a ride with her. Adriana says to Larsa, when she comes back and there's two separate issues, what is that about? there's two separate, there's two separate, when she comes back, she's like, well, there's two separate issues.

They shouldn't be texting. And then there's the Lisa lawyer situation. Like she needs to go take care of that. Like let's just separate it and like get it done. So Gertie goes upstairs to help Lisa, which I thought was very nice. And while Larsa's downstairs, she's still saying like, she's been like, since the time we sat down, it was about the notary, like she's making it all about her. Right. Larsa.

Kelli (04:55.609)
Yes, I agree.

Kelli (05:06.223)
That's what I'm saying. Like, is Lisa just mad? I mean, is Larsa just mad that Lisa's getting this attention? Like, Lisa has legit things going on in her life that she is willing to share with us as a reality TV personality. That is why she's getting our empathy. That's why she's getting our support. That's why she's a fan favorite for most people, I think. But Larsa gives us nothing.

Wendy (05:11.79)
Yeah, like I said, I think she's just

Wendy (05:20.108)
Right, right.

Wendy (05:34.496)
No, she really doesn't. I mean, complaining about text messages. I mean, like throwing a fit about it. The ladies downstairs are saying they can't believe that she only has an hour. Like, how can that be? And then Adriana is trying to tell Alexia, listen, know, like men play games. Like Lenny knows that she's here. Like, you know, like would have Todd. And then as soon as she said Todd, Alexia just flipped out. It was like, she went from zero to a hundred.

Kelli (05:38.083)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:54.949)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Kelli (05:59.588)
Kelli (06:04.887)
Analogies on housewives have proven to be unsuccessful.

Wendy (06:06.894)
Really have they really have they should steer clear

Kelli (06:11.313)
And this one is definitely up there with the Gia Giudice analogy. This reaction is similar. Let's keep the analogies out of the housewives, ladies.

Wendy (06:17.856)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (06:26.894)
Yeah, 100%. And Marist, it was just an analogy. was just an analogy.

Kelli (06:28.901)
but that's all it was. And it's interesting, well, I guess because it's Adriana too. I'm like, well, Adriana doesn't have any beef with Todd, but I guess she actually does, because she's the one who said all the things last season about him not having the money and them having problems. So that's probably what warranted, not warranted, but that's probably what prompted Alexia's reaction.

Wendy (06:46.392)
Yeah, Adrian just... Yes.

Wendy (06:52.928)
Yeah, and Marisol is back there saying like, you know, why is Jodie like texting Larson? Why isn't he helping Lisa? He in fact was helping Lisa. He was on the phone with Lisa. Right, right. So I guess he can get an online notary and you know, Jodie's trying to help her with that, telling her what she needs to do. But then when Gertie grabs the phone away from Lisa and says, Jodie, this is Gertie.

Kelli (07:01.955)
The text messages were from hours before.

Wendy (07:22.178)
You know, I don't want you to engage with Larsa. I'm like, this was not the time.

Kelli (07:27.361)
No, he wasn't like that wasn't even on the, you know, on the horizon. that was, you know, again, two separate issues like, but this one, the legal stuff is taking precedent. So.

Wendy (07:34.456)
I mean, right.

Wendy (07:40.738)
I mean, I know she had good intentions, but it just didn't need to happen. And Jordi's like, I just need to make sure Lisa gets this notarized and gets it done.

Kelli (07:48.761)
Yeah, like Gertie, you can have your moment in like 15 minutes. Just give me 15 minutes so she can get all this notarized.

Wendy (07:54.178)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:58.198)
Yeah. So then downstairs, the ladies start to order their main course and Adriana sitting next to Stephanie. And then she says to her, you know why I went to mass today? And Stephanie starts laughing. Like she thought she was joking. She's like, no, because I can't deal with this. Like this is like, this is like, this hurts my heart. Like all this drama.

I agree with her, like there is a lot of drama. Like it's just nonstop.

Kelli (08:25.165)
And it's too much, quite honestly. I mean, some people might be enjoying it. Well, Cousin Gene is definitely enjoying it, but it's way too much drama for me. Everybody is fighting with everybody. It's just not enjoyable to watch.

Wendy (08:30.871)
Yes.

Wendy (08:40.002)
That's how I feel. It's too much. It's just too much. And everything goes from zero to a hundred.

Kelli (08:47.971)
very quickly, especially with these ladies.

Wendy (08:50.455)
Yes!

Kelli (08:52.473)
And then Larissa tells Adriana to go sit in the corner and cry.

Wendy (08:55.826)
I couldn't believe that, you see, and this is the stuff. then, then it just, that just blew me. who are you to tell her where to sit? And that's why I think she is trying to be relevant. Adriana was not bothering you. She wasn't bothering you. You ghosted. Yeah, she wasn't even talking to you.

Kelli (09:05.003)
Exactly, exactly.

Kelli (09:10.499)
Yes.

Kelli (09:14.565)
She wasn't even talking to you.

Kelli (09:19.471)
Horrible. And then Julia's just going around kissing people.

Wendy (09:24.088)
Julia. yeah, Julia is like the kissing bandit. Yeah.

Kelli (09:25.957)
Julia wants to change the vibe. She asked Stephanie to kiss her. I thought that was interesting.

Wendy (09:34.184)
Stephanie said she won't do it. So now that's going to be her thing because Stephanie's like, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. Marisol said, well, everyone does it. Even Larsa's done it. And then, know, Julia's over there sitting next to her and she won't do it. Then when Lisa finishes getting the papers notarized, her and Gertie and Adriana go back down to the dinner. And Marisol says, monkeys, everything's solved. And Lisa says, yes. What do you think about the whole monkey thing?

Kelli (09:37.797)
Mmm.

Kelli (10:04.837)
I think that that's just like a term of endearment that Marisol uses, right?

Wendy (10:08.918)
Yeah, I do too. mean, and it was brought up on the after show. Lisa says it's fine, that Marisol calls her monkey, but she doesn't want anybody else calling her monkey. Like she's okay with Marisol calling her that because it is a term of endearment the way Marisol says it. But people have been talking about that. Like even Kiki said, well, you better not call her that. She'll take notes about that too. You know, and that will get, only Lisa. Yeah. And she,

Kelli (10:32.335)
Does she only call Lisa monkey? I thought she called everybody monkey. I'll be honest with you.

Wendy (10:37.096)
No, no, only Lisa. Nope, only Lisa. And Marisol even talks about it on the after show. She says that, you know, she just thinks of her as like this like little wiry monkey. Like she's just like kind of all over the place. Again, she doesn't say it with malice. It is a term of endearment.

Kelli (10:55.109)
It's so funny because I never even thought about it before but like I never thought about it My sister used to call her kids turkey all the time like come here you little turkey like I just

What I used to call my kids little brajo or something. I don't know. just like, you just come up with these little things and like I never thought twice about Marisol. I honestly thought she called everybody monkey. I didn't notice it was only Lisa, but who it's cute. think, mean.

Wendy (11:10.856)
huh.

Right, right.

Wendy (11:18.698)
Nope, just Lisa. She only calls Lisa monkey. Yeah. I think it's, and if Lisa doesn't have a problem with it, that's all that matters. That's all that matters. Lisa doesn't have a problem with it. Yeah. No, I don't think it's a problem either, especially when I heard that Lisa doesn't have a problem with it. I think it's cute too. Right, right. So then Lisa sits down and says, you know, let's have a little chit chat like to Larsa. Like, what's the problem? Like, why don't you tell me what's the problem? And she said like,

Kelli (11:27.937)
Exactly. Absolutely.

Kelli (11:35.533)
Yeah, that's all that matters, right, right. Huh.

Wendy (11:48.982)
I don't know, I've been dealing with a lot of legal stuff. Lisa's saying this and Lars is like, well, your boyfriend is texting me. He shouldn't be texting me, he's harassing me.

Kelli (11:57.382)
She said, your boyfriend is texting me things he shouldn't be texting me.

Wendy (12:02.381)
Right.

Kelli (12:05.251)
And then Lisa reads the text and it so not aggressive. It is so not aggressive.

Wendy (12:11.692)
Right, Lisa says, why are you involving him? Lorsa said, I've never involved him. He's the one who involved himself when we were in Milan.

And then Lisa says to Larsa, you're acting like a victim.

The narcissist says, I'm acting like a victim. she says, Alexia, tell her to shut up. Why does she have to tell Alexia?

Kelli (12:35.919)
That's what I'm saying. They keep doing this. They keep deferring to Alexia to reprimand the other ones. Like even when Lisa and Larsa went to lunch, Lisa went in the bathroom and called Alexia and was like, this is what Larsa said. She said, nobody likes me. And like, put you in charge Alexia? But they are. Like that's why she feels the way she feels because they're putting her in charge.

Wendy (12:37.142)
Like, like this is crazy.

Wendy (12:43.894)
Mediate!

Wendy (12:58.667)
Yeah.

Wendy (13:03.766)
It's crazy when she said that to her, like tell her to shut up. And then, then Alexia leans over to Lisa and says, you're just gonna make it worse the way you two are just going at each other.

Kelli (13:13.997)
That drove me nuts.

Wendy (13:15.488)
I know, Larsa's yelling, this happened to me, you're the victim, it's nonstop. And Larsa's, then Lisa's sitting there crying with her phone in her hand and Marisol yells across the table, Lisa, see you taking notes. Lisa says, yeah, I'm taking notes for myself.

And that's when Kiki said to her, know, she's gonna take notes about you to Marisol. Stephanie says, are there any notes about me? And she's like, well, not yet. You know, then she said, you know why I take notes? Because of my divorce. I've learned that you have to take notes about everything. And listen, I know that Lisa came out with this new app, right? It's for divorce. It's for separated and divorced people.

Kelli (14:00.027)
Yes.

Wendy (14:00.748)
Splitwell it's called, Splitwell. She was actually working on that while she was filming this. That's who her business partners were that she was in, where was she? She was in St. Bartswood. Those were her business partners as well. So she really was doing business. They also happened to be her attorneys. Like her attorneys and her business partners are one in the same people. Also found out on the after show that that trip was planned six months prior.

Kelli (14:11.715)
same parts.

Okay. so she really was doing business.

Wendy (14:30.294)
to the Sevilla trip. know, yes, yes. So, they, and you know, she was able to make it, it was just the day before. She landed one day and then she had to fly out like the next morning or something. She landed one night and had to fly the next day. But if she's going through something right now and she's, Lenny is burying her, right? And you know, she's having a very hard time. So she's learning that you've got to take notes. You've got to keep this stuff straight.

Kelli (14:34.073)
So before they even started filming, probably.

Kelli (14:52.793)
Right.

Wendy (14:58.638)
don't think there's anything wrong with taking notes. Yes, I think maybe, you know, with Marisol calling it out like that and the way she reacted, I could see where the ladies would be a little uneasy. But listen, if you don't say anything that you don't mean, then you don't worry about it, right?

Kelli (15:14.085)
Well, that's what I was just gonna say. So like we're held accountable on this podcast because when we're wrong, people point it out and that's good. That's very good and we appreciate it. It helps you to be more careful with what you say and how you say it. I mean, listen, I think it's a little weird in a group of friends if you're taking notes. However, they are in a position where, yes, they're a group of friends.

Wendy (15:21.057)
Right.

Right. Right.

Kelli (15:42.736)
but they're also recording a reality show where there's going to be a reunion. And that's where everybody brings their receipts. So she needs to organize her thoughts in notes to refer to later, it's okay. She's just trying to stay well informed. It's a little odd to do it in the moment, but I guess that's the point. You have to do it in the moment, otherwise you're gonna forget.

Wendy (15:46.477)
Yes.

Wendy (15:57.794)
I think it's fine.

Wendy (16:09.218)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:10.063)
but the ladies are not happy about it. I mean, it's weird, they're acting like, I don't know, she's digging up dirt on them or something. She's taking notes, she's just writing things down.

Wendy (16:12.415)
No.

Wendy (16:24.022)
And honestly, she admitted she was only taking notes on Larsa because Larsa kept calling her names and Larsa kept like belittling her. Larsa was coming at her. And honestly, she was trying to deal with the whole legal matter while like putting Larsa at bay. So let me just take, let me just jot down these notes because I'm not going to deal with this now. I'll deal with this later. I'm going to focus on this one problem here and then I'll come back to this one.

Kelli (16:45.859)
Right. Right.

Wendy (16:51.672)
I don't think there was anything wrong with that. That's just me. I think that that was fine. I think it was totally fine.

Kelli (16:55.683)
And they also already sat down and had a conversation and clearly that did not go well. And it's becoming like a he said, she said, Jodi did this, Jodi did not do that. Like, you know.

Wendy (17:00.598)
Right. Right.

Wendy (17:06.85)
Right.

Wendy (17:10.816)
Yeah, Alexia said, it's very hard to be friends with someone who's taking notes on you, I'm sorry. I don't think so, no. Larsa in her confessional says, I'm not sitting in a court of law, you have to take notes on our conversation. Can she even spell dumb? Come on, Larsa, really?

Kelli (17:15.331)
It's really not. It's really not that hard, Alexia. You could do it. You could do it.

Kelli (17:28.485)
She just goes very low, Larsa. But again, she's got nothing. She brings nothing to this show, Larsa. Her son is adorable and the fashion show scene with her son was great. I don't know why her kids aren't more involved. I guess Miami, the kids really aren't. Yeah, and Gertie's kids aren't really involved. Lisa's kids aren't involved, but I think that that's, Lenny probably won't allow them to film, but.

Wendy (17:30.112)
She really does.

Wendy (17:40.909)
Right.

Wendy (17:46.67)
They're old. They're adults. Her kids are adults.

Kelli (17:57.028)
Yeah, I don't know. don't think Larsa brings anything to the table for this show. You know, she was dating Michael Jordan's son. That was a little exciting, but now that's over. So I don't know. I don't think we need Larsa on this show.

Wendy (18:08.288)
Right. Right.

Wendy (18:14.316)
I'm not a fan. Not a fan of Lars's. I'm really not.

Kelli (18:15.949)
No, and I don't think she's necessary.

Wendy (18:23.366)
So Adriana and her confessional says she thinks it's not a bad idea to take notes to keep things straight. Alexia says, she's been taking mental notes in her confessional the entire trip. Okay, Alexia. Then Larsa says, don't do that in a group of friends. Lisa said, well, we're not really friends. I was like, good for her. Larsa said, well, then you don't need to be sitting across from it. You can go sit over there. Now she tells Lisa where to sit again, like somebody else. She's telling her where to sit.

Kelli (18:48.517)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (18:51.638)
It is not for you to tell Lisa where to sit.

Kelli (18:54.371)
No, that's what I'm saying. She's, I don't know.

Wendy (19:01.995)
I don't know.

Kelli (19:02.465)
It's like senseless conflict. It makes no sense.

Wendy (19:10.304)
It doesn't make any sense. So then Julia stands up and is like, okay, we have to have fun. And that's when she starts going around the table. She goes around the table, yep, and giving everyone a kiss.

Kelli (19:17.186)
kissing everyone, yes.

Larsa and Lisa weren't feeling it either.

Wendy (19:23.182)
No, no, but she did get Marisol, Kiki and Gertie. So that's okay. I mean, listen, I'm glad that her and Gertie were not fighting because they are still fighting now. I, you know, I don't know where that goes awry, but well, I guess we'll have to wait and see. So then we're on day three in Spain. Gertie, Lisa, Adriana and Kiki are all gonna go shopping together.

Kelli (19:33.721)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:39.161)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:42.607)
Yeah.

Wendy (19:49.024)
And then the other ladies, Julia, Stephanie, Larsa, Marisol, and Alexia are going to go paint tiles at the tile place.

Kelli (19:58.022)
How smart is Adriana? I know we said it last week, but when they were sightseeing, fun fact.

Wendy (20:01.684)
I'm... Yeah.

Yeah, I loved all the information she was giving them. Yeah. She really is. She really is. I mean, what did she say? She's,

Kelli (20:09.047)
It's amazing. She's so smart.

Wendy (20:19.81)
We'll get there. So when the ladies are going to do the tiles, Marisol says this reminds her of her mother, because her mother would always bring over Spanish hand-painted tiles, and she had them all over her house, which I thought that was nice. And when they get there to paint the tiles, this was so stupid. Alexia says to Marisol, please don't paint when you painted in our room the other day.

Kelli (20:33.263)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (20:44.564)
yeah, that was dumb.

Wendy (20:45.644)
the male genitalia. I was like, what? Like that whole scene. And then when they, in their confessionals, when they asked them all to draw it. I mean, the only one I'd give credit to is for Larsa because she's like, I'm not drawing that. I'm not drawing a penis. No. I would have said the exact same thing. That's the only thing I would have done the same as Larsa is like, no, I'm not drawing a penis. Sorry. It was so stupid. I mean, Stephanie put wrinkles on hers.

Kelli (20:49.423)
Yeah.

Kelli (20:57.604)
Yeah.

Kelli (21:03.043)
Right.

Right.

Kelli (21:10.051)
Yeah, I'm good. I'm all set. It was stupid.

Wendy (21:15.842)
And then she FaceTimed Masood. And he's like, yeah, yeah, looks exactly like it. What?

Kelli (21:23.813)
If I called Eric and was like, look, I drew this, he'd like, the fuck?

Wendy (21:27.822)
Exactly, I don't know. Very bizarre. So then Adriana takes them to the oldest place in Europe. It was created by the Muslims. It's called Alcazar. It's one of the most iconic spots around the world. Not only is it the oldest, but it's still being utilized by the royal family. Thank you. Thank you, Adriana. The name Alcazar comes from Arabic, which means fortress.

Kelli (21:31.673)
Right. Bizarre.

Kelli (21:50.479)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (21:58.37)
Kiki said, maybe this was, her castle from a past life. Maybe it was like, love that. Adriana has traveled to 58 different countries. She lived in Paris. She studied art history. She also lived in Florence and studied Italian art and in Rome. Like that's impressive. She really is very worldly. I actually might say she is probably one of the most worldly housewives.

Kelli (22:03.705)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (22:15.213)
Yeah. She's very worldly.

Kelli (22:27.585)
I would imagine. mean, I would say Luanne is probably just because of who her husband was.

Wendy (22:31.694)
I was gonna say Luanne is there. And Sonia, maybe. Maybe Sonia and maybe Dorinda.

Kelli (22:38.297)
Maybe.

Wendy (22:46.392)
Let me think.

Kelli (22:46.979)
I don't know, but Adriana's definitely up there.

Wendy (22:49.654)
Yeah, I'm very impressed with Adriana.

Kelli (22:53.785)
which also goes to show you, I mean, I think that Alexia and Marisol, we've said it before, are envious of the younger, richer girls that have come onto the show, but maybe there's a little envy there too, because Adriana is so worldly and has had all of those experiences.

Wendy (23:14.272)
Yeah, it could be. No, they're not. I think they're jealous. I really think they're jealous of her. I really, yeah, I do. So then the other ladies are talking about, the ones doing the tile, they're talking about going to Marabella, Marabella, whatever it's called tomorrow. Stephanie said she didn't have a chance to ask Larsa. She wanted to make sure that she feels comfortable with Lisa going on the plane. I was like, what? Are you kidding me?

Kelli (23:15.813)
because they're not nice to her.

Kelli (23:20.133)
That's what I'm saying. I really think they are.

Kelli (23:42.895)
Yeah, that's ridiculous.

Wendy (23:43.818)
Are you kidding me? A 22 minute flight? Does she feel comfortable having Lisa on the plane?

I want to make sure that you're happy. Larsen says, well, I know I was shaking so bad yesterday. You were not shaking. Who are you kidding?

Kelli (23:59.758)
No, she was not shaking. So Stephanie is Larsa's employee now. Stephanie works for Larsa.

Wendy (24:04.0)
Yeah. Yeah.

So, Larsa says, no, I don't feel comfortable being on the plane with her.

Kelli (24:13.593)
Right, which is ridiculous. Like you said, it's a 22 minute flight. You're gonna make one person stay off of the plane? Come on.

Wendy (24:15.905)
Ridiculous.

Wendy (24:23.926)
I mean, when that came up, Julia says, well, there's something more about my trip that's so important. I don't know if I told you this, but I was thinking about asking my friends, Derek and Jeffrey, to be the godparents to my children. And they're like, my god, that's so amazing. That's great. And we find out that Julia and Martina met these men, Derek and Jeffrey, more than 10 years ago. And it's more, it's more.

than symbolic, she wants them to have a male figure, two male figures in their lives because they really don't. And Julia says, it's a special moment that I'm so sorry that Lisa's going through, but what she's going through right now, I don't want it to turn out like yesterday's dinner did.

Kelli (25:08.293)
It's interesting that she's going to do that without Martina there.

Wendy (25:11.98)
It's, yeah, listen, this is just part of her, you know, yeah, right? It's just part of the story. So Alexia feels like you need to talk to her. You just can't not invite her. Listen, I was glad that Alexia said that. I mean, seriously, like, I mean, you can't just not invite her. Julia said, of course not, like, you know.

Kelli (25:30.861)
Yes, me too. Yes.

Wendy (25:40.564)
I can't see myself saying, Lisa, you're not invited. So Stephanie goes on to say that you guys have been friends with Lisa for a long time and you've allowed her to act this way. You're the one who lets her get away with this. Get away with what? Okay, yeah, she's late. She's late.

Kelli (25:55.174)
I think at that point she was talking about the punctuality because she said, you know she's gonna be late, she's already gonna be late. So I do think she was talking about that. But it does lead you to believe that I think that Larsa, I think Larsa's having a hard time with all of the attention Lisa's getting. And clearly Larsa brought Stephanie on the show. So they probably had conversations before they started recording.

and Stephanie understood the assignment.

Wendy (26:26.499)
she sure did.

Kelli (26:27.769)
Yeah, like I'm not gonna gun for you, but I'm gonna do what I can for my friend to make this season difficult for you. And I got the private jet to use.

Wendy (26:40.309)
Mm-hmm. Exactly.

Wendy (26:45.238)
Lars is like, I don't want to be on a plane with her. I don't want to be in a car with her. I'm like, God. And Stephanie, her confessional says, you know, there's this thing known as jetiquette. It's etiquette on a jet. Okay. If I hear.

Kelli (27:00.717)
I'm getting a little tired of hearing about Stephanie's private chat.

Wendy (27:03.862)
Me too. Me too. Me too.

Kelli (27:06.149)
And unfortunately, this is not the last we hear of it this episode

Wendy (27:11.328)
no, I wish it was. No, I wish it was.

Kelli (27:14.981)
At this point though, they're flipping back and forth between the groups and it gets a little confusing. Right? Like in my notes, I'm like, are they kicking Lisa off of the PJ? Like what is going on? Because the flipping back and forth, I didn't appreciate that.

Wendy (27:22.454)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (27:33.664)
No, I didn't appreciate it either.

Wendy (27:41.422)
So Alexia at this point says, know, this is not like, something's going on with Lisa, cause she's not usually like this. Marisol says, yeah, I think she's thinking more and the wheels are spinning. And she said, I don't want to get sued. Marisol said this. I mean, I like my money. And Laura said, yeah, that's why I don't want her on the plane. So now it went from, they don't want her on the plane because Lisa,

Kelli (28:05.349)
are they talking about?

Wendy (28:11.694)
Because Jodie and Lisa, you know, the whole texting thing too, because Lisa's taking notes. We don't want her on the plane now. Because that's now the reason they don't want her on the plane.

Kelli (28:20.037)
they talking about getting sued? Like, what are you talking about?

This is what I mean, none of the, it's all nonsensical. What they're talking about, they're doing, how Larsa is reacting to things, none of it makes sense. It's like you're trying to make a good TV show, you're not.

Wendy (28:29.154)
It isn't.

Wendy (28:41.216)
No, you're not, you're really not. Because then the other ladies are sitting down and they're talking, Lisa, Gertie, and Kiki and Adriana, and Lisa's like, I'm going through a lot. And Kiki's like, yeah, okay, I get that, but it's not okay for somebody's boyfriend to be reaching out to another person in the group. Lisa said she started it. Kiki said, how does, right. Exactly.

Kelli (28:59.481)
And again, they had a history of communicating via text.

Wendy (29:09.666)
So they go back and forth about this and Lisa said, listen, let's just leave Jodie alone. Let's just get him out of this. Marisol, then we go back to the other side. Then Marisol and Julie decide that they're gonna be the ones that are gonna tell Lisa that she can't go on the plane. Okay. So then we go back to Adriana and Lisa and they feel that like they need to deescalate the situation. And they feel like if she unfollows Marcus that that will at least deescalate the situation. And I liked

Kelli (29:39.011)
Adriana again was so good, like she broke it down. Like Lisa is empowering Larsa by not unfollowing Marcus. She's getting the other girls to agree with her and that it's wrong that she's still following him. And she was 100 % right.

Wendy (29:40.554)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (29:52.12)
Right. Right.

100 % right, 100 % right. So, right. Exactly. So then they get back, everyone gets back and we see that Marisol and Julia are upstairs on the roof. I'm like, why are they on the roof? So they're waiting for Lisa to come back, right? And when Lisa gets there,

Kelli (29:59.632)
So at least Lisa unfollowed him at that

Wendy (30:24.852)
she like ran up the stairs to the roof. So she's like all out of breath. I'm like, wait, what? Why was she running up the stairs to get there? I don't know. I thought that whole thing was a little bit weird. Like why are they up on the roof meeting? Why is Lisa running up the steps? Why? What is going on? So then Lisa gets up there, you know, they make small pleasantries with her. then Julia says like, our role as hosts is to have this conversation with Lisa.

Kelli (30:31.813)
Yeah, isn't there an elevator?

Wendy (30:53.176)
Julie goes on to explain that they're going to go to ask Derek and Jeffrey to be the godfather. And it's a very special day. And Lisa's like, my gosh, that's awesome. So what, you want me to be on my best behavior? Of course I'm gonna be on my best behavior. Then they go on to say, everyone's very nervous with you. Then Marisol says, you know, there's, what about this? Like, what about if we have a basket?

on the plane and you get on the plane and you put your phone in the basket. And then when we get to the house, you know, you put your phone in the basket. And Lisa's like, I can't, I can't put my phone in I have kids, I have small kids. Like, what do mean? can't, I can't not have my phone. And Marisol's like, well, wait, what about, I mean, Lenny's at home with the kids. He can take care of the kids. She's like, no, no, he can't. Well, what about Jodie? No, he's not their father. Well, if he loves you, it's not a-

Kelli (31:49.261)
Okay, but who has the kids? And if nobody can take care of the kids but you, why are you in Spain? Without the kids.

Wendy (31:55.918)
Well, I don't think it's that she can't take care of the kids. I think that she just needs to be available if something comes up with the kids.

Kelli (32:03.395)
I get that, but I think that this comes down to Lisa just doesn't wanna be told what to do.

Wendy (32:11.084)
Well, she also says, listen, is everyone else putting their phones in the basket or is this just something you're doing to me? And yes, yes. So she's like, you know what? That's fine. I don't need to go on this. I don't need to go. That's fine. I won't go. I won't phone. I'm not doing this. I'm not putting my phone in the basket.

Kelli (32:17.293)
and they say, yes, we'll all put our phones in the basket.

Kelli (32:29.935)
which is kind of ridiculous, it's a 22 minute airplane ride. For 22 minutes, you're in Spain. So if somebody calls with an emergency, God forbid, and you can't react for 22 minutes, it's going to be okay. Because there's nothing you can do from Spain anyway.

Wendy (32:34.923)
It is. Right.

Wendy (32:47.456)
I agree.

I agree, but I do think in Lisa's defense, I think it was the way it was put towards her and how they did a sit down with her. mean, it's only 22 minutes, you're right. But she was, she doesn't wanna be told what to do. She doesn't. I mean, she's a grown woman. So she's like that, you know what? I'm not going to dinner either. I'm not going to dinner.

Kelli (33:05.071)
She doesn't want to be told what to do. Yeah.

Of course.

Wendy (33:19.054)
don't blame her. Honestly, don't blame her. I don't know that I want to go sit at dinner with these people either. you know, they're just, you know, arguing with me about everything. Like, what is the point?

Julia says, well, this is exactly what I didn't want to happen. Okay. So then Adriana goes over to Gertie's room and she has no makeup on. Gertie said, I'm not a makeup artist. know, Gertie's like, I'm not a makeup artist. Like I can't do this. And then 10 minutes later we see her putting on Adriana's makeup. She's like, this is not your color. Like I only know how to do my color. I thought that was hysterical. Like that's the kind of stuff I like.

Kelli (33:57.158)
That was funny. Yes, yes.

Wendy (34:02.102)
I thought it was very strange. The next thing that happened, Alexia calls Lisa and she says, can you guys go ahead? I need five more minutes. was like, is Lisa not going? Why is she calling Lisa?

Kelli (34:12.132)
Right.

Wendy (34:13.838)
So then we see 90 minutes earlier Marisol called her on the phone and said, Lisa, you I thought you had, we really want you at dinner. I really want you to come to dinner. So Lisa's like, all right, I still need to eat. All right, I'll go to dinner. But I guess at this point she only had 90 minutes to get ready, which for Lisa is not enough time apparently.

Kelli (34:31.183)
Right. Not nearly enough.

Wendy (34:35.584)
Right, but then Alexi announces that they're missing Adriana and Gertie and Lars is like, all right, well, let's just go. Like the girls can get over there. Well, why wouldn't you call them and see where they're at? I mean, you're just gonna leave? So they all get in the car and they're like ready to leave, but then all of a sudden Gertie and Adriana come out. Like they were literally gonna leave them there. Because Lars has said, all right, let's just go. okay. I mean, seriously?

Kelli (34:45.219)
Right. Right.

Kelli (35:02.833)
It doesn't seem like Larsa wants to be there, Quinn, honestly. It doesn't seem like Larsa's enjoying herself very much. I mean, I don't know how any of them are enjoying themselves, because there's so much fighting going on, but she seems irritated all the time, Larsa. So just don't be on the show, then.

Wendy (35:17.71)
She really does.

Wendy (35:21.74)
No, she does. I don't get it.

Kelli (35:23.533)
I hate when house, sorry. I dislike when housewives, like act like that. Then don't be on the show. You're clearly irritated by every little thing. So this can't be enjoyable for you and it's certainly not enjoyable for us to watch.

Wendy (35:37.837)
Right.

Wendy (35:43.278)
No, it's really not. It's not. So as they're driving over to the restaurant, Alexia said 40 years ago when she lived here and she was 17, Adrian was like, why didn't you marry a Spaniard? Alexia said, well, I actually was engaged to a Spanish guy. His grandfather was the owner of Pepsi Cola in Spain. I was like, whoa.

Kelli (36:05.059)
Yeah, and Marisol's like, let's hunt them down. Like, let's find them.

Wendy (36:08.223)
Yeah.

Wendy (36:12.468)
And yeah, she's like, I didn't even know what that was back in the day. How could she not know what that was? Pepsi Cola. I know. Yeah, you knew what that was.

Kelli (36:18.553)
I know, Pepsi's been around a long time.

Wendy (36:26.99)
So they're just talking about their day and Alexia is talking about how she made a tile for her and Todd. Then we see the tile. They tell the ladies about how Marisol and Julia met up with Lisa and about the caveat about Lisa having to leave her phone in the basket and get on the plane.

Kelli (36:36.421)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (36:54.786)
This is while they're eating dinner and Lisa's not there yet. And then all of a sudden Adriana yells out that, well, Lisa unfollowed Marcus today. And Marisol said, thank God. And baby Jesus, Alexia said, that's good. And Lars is like, I don't even care. Yeah, yeah, that's the bare minimum, she said. Yeah.

Kelli (37:11.813)
There's much more to it than that. There's much more now. Really, Larsa just has it out for Lisa, and nothing Lisa does is gonna make anything better.

Wendy (37:19.32)
Yeah.

Right. And then Gertie said to Adriana, I didn't know you were going to announce that because we all made a pact that we were not going to announce it and that she unfollowed Marcus. And he was like, we did? And Gertie's like, yeah. And then we see the pinky promise. I mean, I listen. They obviously did. She did do the pinky promise.

Kelli (37:39.087)
Yeah.

Kelli (37:44.193)
Yeah.

Wendy (37:46.872)
Gertie's like, made Kiki promise like her life that, you know, that she was, I guess Kiki is the one who always gives the secrets out. I mean, I don't know why Kiki was the one that was such a big deal about. And he was like, well, I missed that part.

Kelli (37:58.042)
Well, I mean, I feel like Kiki's repeated a lot this season. I feel like Kiki's, you know, had her hands in a lot this season.

Wendy (38:03.756)
Well, she has.

Wendy (38:08.622)
Kiki has had her hands on a lot this season. She has. She has.

Kelli (38:11.193)
Yeah, and that's okay, that's okay, because somebody's gotta do it and she wants her full time spot, which I feel like she should have by now.

Wendy (38:14.669)
Yeah.

Wendy (38:21.046)
I do too, I do too. Adrienne's like, well, I must've missed that. And Gertie's like, well, you were there. And she's like, well, I was looking at the birds. I was watching the parakeet. Stephanie's like, you are the worst secret keeper. So then Lisa shows up and they're all eating and Marisol's like, I'm glad you're here. And Stephanie says to Larsa, come on and eat real quick. And Larsa and her confessional.

Kelli (38:35.205)
You

Wendy (38:50.126)
It's like, who shows up two hours late and acts like everything's okay? And on the screen it says, only one hour late.

Kelli (38:57.005)
Only one hour late. Which release is pretty good.

Wendy (39:01.967)
No, that's nothing for Lisa. I mean, she only had 90 minutes.

Kelli (39:03.843)
Right. And nobody told anybody to not eat until Lisa got there. Like you were fed, you had your drinks, like, relax. Right. Right.

Wendy (39:13.582)
She didn't hold anything up. Exactly. So Lisa sits down and she's like, what's the tea? And then Kiki's like, well, you know, we made the promise. Kiki says, but not gonna say anything. And Adriana ran her mouth. And I was like, And Adriana was like, it wasn't like that. And Kiki's like, yeah, it was. And Adriana said, first of all, Kiki, stop being so ratchet.

Ratchet

Kelli (39:38.565)
Do you think that because of like the language barrier, like, do you think she meant to say something else?

Wendy (39:45.528)
So, initially that's what I thought, right? So when I was watching, I watched the after show because I got a little more clarity on it from the after show, not from Adriana so much as from like Julia, because Julia was saying, you know, like, it's okay, it's okay. First of all, Julia did not know what ratchet meant. To her ratchet was like a tool that you use on a farm, like a ratchet. So Julia had no idea what ratchet meant. But.

Kelli (39:49.562)
Okay.

Kelli (40:13.507)
Right.

Wendy (40:14.55)
Adriana does speak many languages and I'm not giving Adriana that. Kiki knew what it meant. what, so the definition of ratchet, cause Kiki, where was it? So the way she meant it, okay, so in the confessional, Gertie said, looks it up, ratchet slang, low class or out of control or used in a disparaging or.

complimentary way. I'm confused now. So the way she meant ratchet was like, you're like, confusing the situation. Not she didn't mean it. And I believe it can be used that way also, like it messy, like disparaging, like, like you're confusing the situation. Not calling her that word. Right, right.

Kelli (41:01.005)
Messy, like messy. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Right.

Low class.

Wendy (41:12.748)
So that's how it was meant, but obviously, like there was some very strong opinions about that word ratchet because Julie, like I said, Julie was saying, know, Kiki, it's okay, it's okay. Because Julie had no idea. And then when-

Kelli (41:15.641)
Okay.

Kelli (41:27.043)
Right. And again, this is another thing with housewives, like, you know, it's a double standard all the time. Like this one can call this one something, but then this one calls this one something and it's a big deal. you know.

Wendy (41:45.228)
Yeah.

Kelli (41:46.11)
All these women are hypocrites and everything is so, you know, contradictory and all that stuff.

Wendy (41:53.484)
Yeah, right. So, cause then Adrian's like, well, I was breaking, I was breaking good news. And then Kiki's still stuck on, right. But you're calling me ratchet. But what she was saying is the situation was ratchet. this, like you saying what happened. Stephanie said, think Adrian meant to use a different word. And again, there are a lot of different languages that these people speak. So I think that there was a lot going on, but the fact that they were literally,

Kelli (41:59.142)
Alright, and-

Kelli (42:04.965)
Right.

Kelli (42:16.889)
Right.

Wendy (42:23.759)
yelling in this restaurant with other people across the table. It just was a bit much. I mean, I did think it was funny.

Kelli (42:26.799)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (42:33.583)
Well, and then Kiki calls Adriana old and forget it. And then Larsa says, we need to remember that we're all friends.

Wendy (42:36.032)
Right. Right.

Wendy (42:42.814)
No, you're not. Right.

Kelli (42:43.671)
What? You told Adriana to go cry in the corner last night. You told Lisa to go sit over there. You're talking shit about her boyfriend. You're making it way more salacious than it really is. Like, what are you, what? And she keeps saying how she's a good friend. She's not a good friend.

Wendy (42:51.607)
Right.

Wendy (43:05.23)
She's not a good friend. She's not a good friend. She's not. She's not. In Lisa's confessional, she said, I don't know at this point if we need a referee or a translator, but I'm just glad I'm not in the hot seat. And I could feel that for her at that point. Kiki's crying at this point. She said that she's trying to throw me under the bus. Julia keeps saying, Kiki, stop. Because again, Julie doesn't know.

Kelli (43:19.715)
Yeah.

Kelli (43:24.399)
I mean, that was a little dramatic,

Wendy (43:34.732)
what ratchet means, she thinks it's a tool.

Kelli (43:38.604)
And then Lisa tries explaining how she's taking the notes because of her legal issues and then all of sudden Adriana's like, I have to go. I have to go back to Miami to watch her kids because I'm old. Like I thought Lisa was getting ready to have like a good moment. Like you know what I mean? Like explain, like this is what the notes were about. Like give her side and then Adriana went and fucked it all up.

Wendy (43:54.658)
Yeah.

Wendy (44:04.192)
Yeah, well, because when Kiki called her old, it was a trigger for her. And they were talking about this on the after show. Well, Alexia and her confessional said, well, she's old. I mean, she's older. She's like, well, I'm old. But on the after show, was Alexia and Marisol together. So I guess Adriana is a year older than them, or two years. Adriana is two years older than Alexia and Marisol. So she's 59, I think. Adriana's 59.

Kelli (44:32.997)
Man, she looks good. Holy cow.

Wendy (44:34.476)
She looks amazing, right? And people were saying, well, you called Marisol old. Well, because when you're old, you can call someone old, right? Right? That's how it works. Like, I can...

Kelli (44:43.865)
Hahaha

don't think any of them should be calling any other one old because one, they're very close in age, especially those three. And women don't want to be called old. I'll just leave it at that.

Wendy (44:53.517)
Right.

Wendy (44:57.038)
No, no, no. So when they ask Kiki about her mother's age, this wasn't on the show, right? This was on the after show. They asked Kiki, you know, what's old? She's like, well, my mother's old. And then, well, how old is your mother? I think she said her mother was 51. So sorry. Right? So, but for Kiki, like that's old. It's all relative, right? Like it's all relative.

Kelli (45:17.071)
Kiki, you're killing me!

Kelli (45:24.175)
It is all relative.

Wendy (45:26.762)
I thought it was hysterical when Lars is like, I gotta get out of here. Like, this is ridiculous. Her and Stephanie like get up and they're leaving. But meanwhile, Adriana had already said that I gotta get out of here because I gotta go home. I gotta get back to Miami. And Stephanie's standing there and she like, Adriana like runs into Stephanie and Stephanie's like, you're not going with me. And so funny. That's when I laughed. Like, I'm like, my God, this is so.

Kelli (45:39.725)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (45:47.781)
I'm not going with you.

Wendy (45:56.354)
funny. Like these women are literally insane. They're literally insane.

Kelli (45:56.495)
That was very funny.

Kelli (46:00.985)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (46:05.071)
my God, the old, so then Adrian.

Kelli (46:10.725)
Stephanie was like losing her shit in the backseat.

Wendy (46:13.942)
my gosh, she was crying. I mean, she was literally crying in the car on the way back or even when they get out there. So those guys get out to the car. It's Stephanie, Larsa, Alexia and Marisol. And they're like, quick, close the door so no one else can get in. Okay, that's, yeah, that's mature.

Kelli (46:27.333)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (46:32.261)
And I'm sorry, that's mean girl behavior.

Wendy (46:35.342)
Okay, I don't want to say that. Okay. So in the car, like Stephanie's crying, literally crying about like what is going, like she wasn't even involved in this, right? She wasn't even involved in this.

Kelli (46:37.133)
I know, but it is.

Kelli (46:45.977)
Yeah.

Right, like what is going on?

Wendy (46:53.432)
So Lisa's like, listen, we can fix this. Alexia said, we can't fix anything in a dinner. I'm leaving. So now, this happened before that. So then Lisa's going around to all the tables apologizing to everybody.

Kelli (47:05.881)
Yeah, I think that that was unnecessary. Like, Lisa, just get in the car and go back to the hotel.

Wendy (47:07.918)
was like, when she was doing that, was like, to look on the people's faces, like.

Kelli (47:15.781)
They're like, who are you? We don't even know who you are. I don't think anybody in Sevilla knows who they are. Maybe, maybe they do.

Wendy (47:21.678)
They have no idea. They have no idea.

Kelli (47:26.841)
They have no idea who these ladies are.

Wendy (47:28.93)
They really don't. So they get back to the hotel, the four of them get back to the hotel, Marisol, Alexia, Larsa, and Stephanie, and they sit down at the table in the hotel. And now they've got to decide what they're doing for the 22 minute plane ride tomorrow.

Kelli (47:50.224)
I mean, had to is a stretch. They didn't have to do that. Stephanie likes talking about her private jet. So now we're gonna make a whole scene about a seating arrangement that doesn't fucking matter. The plane's not that big. Don't get me wrong. And I'm not trying to shade her private jet because we already know it's bigger than somebody else's she talked about. But it's not that big of a plane. There's not that many places for people to go. So stop.

Wendy (48:21.038)
don't know if you caught this. So before they're trying to figure that out, she hands them all a piece of paper and she's like, okay, you're going on my plane. She wants them to sign this waiver, the rules of the plane. Did you see that? yeah, so she hands them, she hands Marisol.

Kelli (48:33.313)
No, I did not.

Kelli (48:37.417)
Did you watch it on Peacock by any chance? Okay, because I watched it on, because it's hard now when, now that those shows are both on Thursday night, so.

Wendy (48:39.766)
I didn't. watched it on, I watched it the TV.

Wendy (48:47.232)
Yeah, no, I watched it in the DVR. So she handed them all a piece of paper and Marisol's like, I can't even read this. Like, it was the rules of her plane. And then she's then she decides that she's going to try and figure out the seating arrangement. So in the after show, some of the things that were in the rules of the plane were, and this becomes a big topic of conversation on the after show. No pooping on the plane.

Kelli (48:50.264)
Okay.

Wendy (49:18.264)
You're not allowed to poop on the plane, in the bathroom. I was like, what? You're not allowed to have your.

Kelli (49:24.805)
What if somebody has a nervous stomach about flying?

Wendy (49:27.47)
Well, you got to hold it for 22 minutes. You're not allowed to poop on the plane. You signed that.

Kelli (49:30.858)
She's ridiculous with this plane.

Wendy (49:33.546)
And on the after show, she goes on to talk about it. She's like, Mike Lam squat doesn't eat for three days before we travel. Because they said to her, what about if it's a trans continental flight? Is that rule still apply?

I was like, you've got to be kidding me. There's other things on that, to do the rules list, like no sparkles, no, all these other stupid things. And then she was telling Larsa, one of the rules she got from Carolyn Stansberry. She was like, you have to sign a thing. Carolyn Stansberry has rules for her plane too. But Caroline was, guess, on her plane and she had,

Kelli (49:50.725)
Wow.

Wendy (50:17.13)
loose powder, loose powder. Now you're not allowed to have any loose powder on the plane either. She had loose powder and she had alligator counters or something and the loose powder was getting all over it. I was like, what?

Kelli (50:29.733)
I think I would rather just fly commercial and meet them there. Yes. Yes.

Wendy (50:32.844)
I think I'd rather get on the train. I'll take the three hours and sit on the train. Peace and quiet. Not have to deal with these crazy bitches.

Kelli (50:40.293)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wendy (50:42.666)
So they're trying to figure out the seating arrangements with the different compartments and the different things and who's gonna sit here and who's gonna sit there. Marisol takes the one drink and she pours it into her drink. She's like, this is the reason I drink so much. This is crazy. And I have to agree with her. I definitely have to agree with her. I I want it to drink.

Kelli (51:00.975)
Yeah, I totally agree with her. and Mara, thank God Marisol says Stephanie's being ridiculous with this plane ride. Like, seriously, get over yourself, Stephanie.

Wendy (51:09.014)
Yeah. Right. Exactly. Exactly.

Kelli (51:13.871)
I mean, God bless you, you're very wealthy, good for you, but I don't think we needed a whole scene about them doing a seating chart on the PJ.

Wendy (51:24.874)
No, no, so they have it all figured out who's gonna sit where and who's gonna sit there. But then, that's the end of it. Then we see scenes from next week and they were all literally dancing on the plane together.

Kelli (51:35.373)
Yep, yep, jumping up and down, having a great frigging time. Yep.

Wendy (51:40.608)
On the plane. Like this is bullshit. I'm sorry. This is just bullshit. It's bullshit.

Kelli (51:46.585)
Right. So all that was for nothing. Completely for nothing.

Wendy (51:52.907)
I don't know.

Kelli (51:53.207)
None of it makes sense.

Wendy (51:55.798)
It just doesn't. It doesn't make sense. I'm so over her PJ. They had a whole conversation about that on the after show and her and Larsa were like, I would never not take you. Like would you go without me? I would not take you. And then Stephanie's like, well, I mean, Larsa would probably just call one of her 20 other friends who had a PJ and then we would go together. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. Seriously?

Kelli (52:22.233)
Yeah, like shut up.

Wendy (52:23.682)
The two of them deserve each other. I don't want to see any more of either of them. I am so sick of them. I really am.

Kelli (52:31.749)
Listen, I don't even have a problem if they bring Stephanie back, which I'm pretty sure they are after she did that commercial with Melissa. But I honestly don't think we need Larsa. She brings nothing to the show. She's not sharing anything with us about her own life.

Wendy (52:38.603)
With Marvel, yeah.

Wendy (52:45.686)
I don't... No, she's not. She's not. And you know what? I would be so happy if they brought back Stephanie without Larsa.

Kelli (52:55.021)
Absolutely, because let's see how she moves without Larsa.

Wendy (52:58.072)
Mm-hmm.

Yep. would like to, you know, I think she would, she would buddy right up with Alexia though. I think she would crawl right underneath her.

Kelli (53:03.523)
Yeah.

Kelli (53:08.419)
Wow, I mean, she'd be a fool not to because apparently Alexia is in charge. They're all calling Alexia to reprimand the ones who are annoying them.

Wendy (53:11.118)
Exactly. You know who's not calling Alexia? Adriana. Adriana's not calling. my God, that's the other thing they were talking about on the after show. Marisol and Alexia. So it came up about how the other lady said to Marisol that she's different when Alexia's not there. And...

Kelli (53:22.423)
Adriana is not calling Alexia.

Wendy (53:38.442)
Alexia was really mad at Marisol, didn't say like, you should have said that that's not true. Like this isn't true. Like she was very mad at her. And there was at one point during the after show, you have to watch it, Alexia is telling Marisol that she has talked too much during this after show and that Alexia needs to talk. She's rep, they're like fighting. They literally were fighting. You have to watch it.

Kelli (54:00.976)
Cause I watched one of them, but I didn't see that part. Okay, I think I watched the first two and didn't get to the third one yet. Interesting.

Wendy (54:03.278)
There's three. There's three after shows.

Wendy (54:09.144)
They're arguing. And Marisol just backs down. She just backs down.

Kelli (54:12.613)
Marisol 100 % backs down. She is the Dolores of Miami. She is the Dolores of Miami, except she's not Switzerland with the other women. She's full on Alexia's employee.

Wendy (54:19.566)
It's just back down.

Wendy (54:24.698)
no, she's not, Swartzville.

Wendy (54:28.896)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, our listeners, please watch the after show because it's so interesting to see the dynamics when they're just the two of them together, when Alexia is getting mad. She's getting mad at Marisol about the whole Todd trip because she didn't know that that trip was supposed to be about getting her mind off of Todd. So she got mad, she got, you have to watch it, it's so good. She's like,

Kelli (54:31.341)
Wow. I will definitely watch that.

Kelli (54:42.019)
Yeah.

Wendy (54:56.974)
And how is it about that when everyone is just fighting? It wasn't even about Todd. And Marisol's like, that was the reason we were planning this trip was like to get your mind off of Todd.

Kelli (55:07.961)
They told her that like I think they just said like we want to take you away because remember she said well I have to be back by a certain date for Todd's birthday So I don't think they said like we want to do this to take your mind off Todd

Wendy (55:15.348)
Right, right. I think what happened was once she saw it, that's when she got mad. That's when she got mad. Yeah, that's when she got mad. And then, and when she saw that Marisol didn't like stick up for her when they were saying that she acts different when she's not with her, she was getting mad. And like I said, and she even said to Marisol, you're talking too much. You let me, I think it's time for me to talk. was like, wow.

Kelli (55:23.558)
okay. Well, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense.

Kelli (55:41.101)
Wow.

Kelli (55:45.017)
Holy cow.

Wendy (55:46.144)
It's good. It's worth the watch. It really is.

Kelli (55:48.889)
Yeah, I definitely will. That's funny.

Wendy (55:52.096)
Yeah. So I guess until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (56:00.271)
Bye.