RHOC Who Invited Michael?!

Kelli (00:01.324)
Hi, welcome to Be Mine Whenever, this is Kelly.

Lori (00:04.478)
And wait one second.

Lori (00:09.503)
Lori. Yes, yes, yes. As from Asbury Park Brewery, Sea Dragon. It's very good. Yes. I stole no, I stole that from my friend Victoria's refrigerator.

Kelli (00:10.414)
Guess what Lori's drinking tonight?

Kelli (00:21.793)
where'd you get it from? Did you go there?

Kelli (00:28.118)
Victoria, you'll have l one less beer when you come home. Well, if you'd like it, we should go there because we're right here. We're right near Asbury.

Lori (00:30.248)
She buys it all the time. Yes, and yes, from France. It'll be fine.

Lori (00:41.113)
Yeah. Well you you could just buy it in the local liquor store.

Kelli (00:45.514)
they have it around here. All right. So tonight we're talking about Real Housewives of Orange County, season 20, episode 10, Forbidden Fruit. Before we start, please go to our YouTube and subscribe, go to our socials and follow TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, and I know a lot of you are asking about Wendy. Wendy is okay, she's just handling some family issues.

She will definitely be back and we love that you miss her and we miss her too and we're looking forward to her coming back.

Lori (01:18.701)
Yes, we must her too. Yep, she's doing what she's gotta do.

Kelli (01:23.906)
She's doing what she's got to do. Exactly. so we start out, and the two there are two groups. They're going, you know, each group is going on a trip. Tamra, Heather, Carmella, and Gina are going to Santa Barbara. Tamara says she is not inviting Vicki and Shannon. So at first, I'm like, well, that's weird. And then why isn't she inviting our Emily and Jen too? But then we find out that.

Vicky, Emily, Shannon, and Jen are going to La Quinta, which is twenty five miles south of Palm Springs, and it's Vicky's house. Cause I think at some point during the episode, Vicky says they're going to Palm Springs. But in fact, La Quinta is not Palm Springs. So slow your roll, Vicky. Slow your roll, girl.

Lori (02:04.398)
Yeah, she does.

So there you go.

Kelli (02:15.018)
Emily's getting ready for the trip and she and Shane are talking. And Emily says in her confessional that she and Shane are always arguing over who does more in the relationship. I do think that this is a very normal argument for spouses with kids these ages. Certainly if one is struggling with mental health issues, one of their kids. you know, I feel for Emily and Shane. I also listen to their podcast and they're great on it together, and I love their dynamic together. So

Lori (02:29.89)
Yes.

Kelli (02:44.478)
I don't necessarily think that Emily's using this as a storyline for the show, like some people accuse her of doing. I think this is real things that they're going through, but I also think it's normal.

Lori (02:51.533)
Yeah.

Lori (02:56.482)
Yeah, absolutely. No, I agree with you on one on that one.

Kelli (03:02.904)
Vicky says she wants to showcase to the girls that you can work and enjoy your life by bringing them to her house. But I think

Lori (03:14.584)
Th no no no. It's three Don't get it confused, Mrs. Wooder. She's taking them to her third home. Okay, so don't get it confused. And what are you even talking about? Because you

Kelli (03:25.571)
That's right.

Lori (03:36.844)
It's ridiculous because one thing is coming out your mouth and another thing is coming out your ass because you're trying to say, look, you can work like a dog and have this great happy life with three houses, but you're a miserable ass. So what are you even talking about? What are you talking about?

Kelli (03:56.663)
And you're you're supposed to be enjoying your third home with your friends, but you're incessantly working on your laptop.

Lori (04:05.742)
Y you're just

Kelli (04:07.074)
So is that enjoying your the enjoying the fruits of your labor?

Lori (04:12.3)
Makes no sense. Makes no sense.

Kelli (04:13.634)
Makes zero sense. And let's be honest, she really just wants to show off her house in La Quinta.

Lori (04:18.71)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then again we have the sex stuff with

Who was it? Jen and her husband talking about the manual from the knee surgeon doctor on safe ways to I was like, I I don't care at all.

Kelli (04:28.707)
Tamara.

Kelli (04:42.092)
Let's let's this is just the PSA for all housewives. We don't want to know about your sex life. It is the absolute last thing we want to know about.

Lori (04:49.047)
No.

Lori (04:53.878)
Unless it's some kind of generalized thing that kinda everybody has gone through at some point with some aspect of it. But details, visuals, charts.

Kelli (05:06.54)
No. I'm not attracted enough to any of your husbands to ever want to picture them doing something sexual in my head. Nope. Certainly not Ryan. I'm sorry, Jen. He outkicked his coverage. Jen, you need to level up. I I know he's got the dough, but

Lori (05:15.382)
In any of those right situation. No. No. No.

Lori (05:25.336)
Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

Kelli (05:31.224)
Girl.

Lori (05:32.686)
I just like

Kelli (05:33.656)
When his closet's bigger than yours, you need to ask some questions.

Kelli (05:43.512)
Pamera's freaking out because they're running late and Carmela's curling her hair.

Lori (05:43.694)
There you go.

Kelli (05:50.823)
Jen asks Shannon if she's seen the guy with the plaid jacket and she's like, Yeah, I saw him Saturday night. He was on a date with someone else So that didn't go anywhere. Carmella has to give herself an insulin shot because Tamra's stressing her out so bad while she's driving.

Lori (06:02.934)
No.

Lori (06:10.572)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (06:13.56)
Tamra asks Carmela how her conversation with Heather went. And Tamara says that Heather was getting in front of the situation by bringing up the trashy comment. And Carmela's like, listen, I'm just going to take my friendship with her at face value, despite what's going on with her and the other ladies. And I hope she sticks to it. And she says that the part she's upset about is that Heather's like texting her, like, I can't wait to see you. And then she finds out.

She's calling her trashy.

Lori (06:46.69)
Yeah, I mean you know, d don't worry about her, girls. Carmilla's fine. She's got the four one one on Heather. She knows she was trying to get ahead of it. She knows. You know what I'm saying?

Kelli (06:46.88)
In the other car good.

Kelli (07:01.984)
Yeah, and and the thing is is that clearly all of the other ladies came into this season with the Heather takedown plot. Like this was this was the directive I would imagine from Tamra. Everybody jumped on board. And Carmela's like Carmela obviously wasn't in on the gig 'cause she's, you know, thrown in at the last minute probably. And she's like, Whatever.

Lori (07:25.23)
Mm.

Yeah. And Carmella too. Yeah, she she too for her. She was just like, you know, you girls can be bothered that I'm accepting the apology, but I'm not I'm not gonna play the game here. I'm not gonna go for the whole she wasn't going for it. You know what mean? 'Cause they were they were trying, you know.

Kelli (07:48.366)
She wasn't going for it.

Very much. Yeah. And

Lori (07:54.753)
And how about when Gina said these Erwan snacks are way too elevated for a trashy girl like Carmella?

Kelli (08:03.682)
Yeah, Jean is doing a little bit too much.

Lori (08:06.6)
she's doing a lot. And then she says about Vicky that Vicky's in ring purgatory. I was like, Girl, you're working. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (08:13.346)
Yes, that was actually kind of funny. Yeah, in the other car, Emily is telling the ladies that Heather was trash talking Carmella and then says, yeah, I'm using her as a real estate agent. And Vicky's like, Y if you guys that would be like you guys using someone else to buy insurance. I'm sure not all of them bought life insurance and all their insurance from Vicky. She hasn't even been on the show.

Lori (08:35.55)
Mm.

Kelli (08:41.494)
I'm gonna say this once. I'm probably gonna say it 25 times during this podcast. Vicky, if Vicky were gonna come back, she should have been a friend of. She is not housewife material anymore. When she left the show, she her status was friend of. Then she was gone. And when she she should have stayed as a friend of, she is definitely not housewife. She shouldn't be on the show at all.

Lori (08:54.932)
Not any l no, not any longer. No.

Kelli (09:10.158)
'Cause she's so fucking miserable, but she should have been a friend of.

Lori (09:10.352)
no. She is so miserable.

Kelli (09:15.638)
And Tamra says, Heather's good friend Tamra says, this is a pattern with Heather. She's she talking shit behind people's back and then pretending to be friends with them.

But but that so they're all having this conversation before Heather gets in the car, but they're not gonna talk about it on the ride.

Kelli (09:37.587)
then Carmella gets pulled over.

Lori (09:40.054)
Which is great.

Kelli (09:41.792)
It was so good. And then she's like, Yeah, my driver's license is suspended and everybody's like, She's like, No, I'm kidding.

She's like, hope he strip searches me. but I believe she got pulled over because I don't want to use the term that you and I both know the term, but I don't think we can say it. but she got pulled over because the car was completely black everywhere.

Lori (09:53.462)
This is great.

Lori (10:12.42)
'cause all the windows well see, all the windows were black and tinted, fully tinted, but that's not really the real reason she got pulled over is because her registration was expired. So when you do registration expired and the dark windows, the cops kinda like, mm.

Kelli (10:15.907)
Yeah.

Kelli (10:24.747)
that's right.

Kelli (10:31.16)
But was it her car or was it a rental? It must have been her car because a rental's not gonna let the registration expire.

Lori (10:33.458)
no. I don't even

Kelli (10:40.782)
Heather and then announces that she got pulled over, but it was only because the cop wanted a selfie.

I would bet my life savings, which isn't a lot, that that is one hundred percent false and that's a complete blatant lie.

Lori (10:56.034)
False, yes. Absolutely. It sounded good for the confessional. No one. Right, in Lalaland.

Kelli (11:00.514)
Who is recognizing Heather DeBrot? In in La La Land, you're in LA and you're gonna pull Heather DeBro over? I don't think so, Heather. I don't think any LA cop knows who the F you are. Nor cares. Maybe your husband, but not you.

Lori (11:16.184)
Who you are. Right. Absolutely not. No.

Kelli (11:27.874)
They get to Vicky's house and Shannon's like, I have no problem sharing a room with someone and Jen's like Hold up

Lori (11:36.814)
Pick the room, survey the property, get back to me. Yeah, I love it.

Kelli (11:42.863)
Please do a full-on inspection before you commit to any room. Maybe even sit in there for an hour and make sure there's no electromagnetic vibes you're getting from something. Your get your nine lemons in a bowl. Vicky's girls were going to a driving range making pizzas and then they're gonna go whoop it up.

Lori (11:48.045)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (11:53.807)
Force fields. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Break out your crystals, make sure it's all cleansed.

Kelli (12:11.854)
And they're sitting outside having a cocktail when they first get to Vicki's house. And Vicki brings up the fact that Jen was snippy with her the other day. But Shannon's like, wait a minute, I think you started the snippiness by calling Jen a troublemaker. And then in her confessional, Vicky says, I like Jen sitting there being pretty.

Lori (12:34.902)
And quiet. And like staying in their own lane kind of a thing. Yeah.

Kelli (12:39.98)
Yeah, like, all right, that's a little misogynistic.

Lori (12:42.766)
Mm.

Kelli (12:44.542)
and then Emily says to Vicky, When you get frustrated you go after Jen, especially if anybody brings up your relation relationship. It's one hundred percent true.

Lori (12:49.24)
Which is true.

Lori (12:54.112)
And it's so funny that she's made the low hanging fruit comment 'cause that's exactly what I said last episode. Remember? Do you remember I said that? I said low hanging fruit. And then they said it. I was like

Kelli (13:00.214)
You did. Yes you did. Yep. And Vic yeah, Vicki's like, yeah, well maybe I do. She's low hanging fruit. She Vicky very well could be the most ignorant person on Bravo.

Lori (13:15.2)
I'm telling ya, she just has no concept of when she says fucked up things. Like she just really she really thinks

Kelli (13:24.418)
I know she's her business is a success, but she's stupid. She's not a very smart person.

Lori (13:29.186)
She's dumb as hell. No. She just has no clue as to what the repercussions of the things that she says. She just thinks cause she says it it's okay. No. No. It's unbelievable.

Kelli (13:41.228)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (13:46.755)
Yeah. So then Tamra announces that they're going they're gonna go ride bikes, like the the big bikes, the but they're for two people, but to solving. And I guess it's like a little like a little town, a little cute town. Yeah. And then it was very cute. It was very cute. Like cottagey, right?

Lori (13:59.779)
Yeah, I don't even know what that is. With a little town. Yeah, yeah. It was cute there.

Kelli (14:11.404)
And then Michael arrives at Vicky's house. I don't understand this guy. If he doesn't want to film, he keeps popping up wherever they are.

Lori (14:13.74)
Why? Why? That's exactly what I wrote down. For somebody who who doesn't want to be on there, why do I keep seeing your Fashim? Like why does your face keep popping up? Why not just be like

Kelli (14:20.822)
It's interesting.

Kelli (14:29.944)
So do you want to be there or are you just checking up on Vicky?

Lori (14:34.252)
No, it's weird.

Kelli (14:38.124)
Yep. Emily says Michael also made a surprise visit in Vegas. Is he checking up on Vicky?

then they're in the car on the way to the driving range and Vicky's working on her laptop again.

Lori (14:52.44)
So unbelievably rude.

Kelli (14:56.17)
It's rude and then it's just it's so funny because when they call her out on it, she's I have to work, I have to work, I have to work like Debbie Downer, like Debbie Debbie Downer. So we're flashing back and forth between the one group riding bikes and the other group in the golf carts and

Kelli (15:21.934)
One group gets to solving, whatever, however you pronounce it. Carmela tells Heather on like on their bike ride there that they talked on the way up about things that need to get aired out. Heather says, Emily mentioned that Gina shared things with her. And Heather says it's disappointing. And then in her confessional, Heather says, What these other women have said about Carmella is atrocious. And not only would I not repeat it.

I would also not stand there with Carmella and tell her. So Heather is alluding to the other women saying worse things than Carmela is trashy. And I believe it, quite honestly. I 100% believe it.

Lori (16:01.58)
Right. So do I. So do I. And I think Heather's kinda right. Heather's like, Look, you outed me for saying stuff, but I kept quiet about you saying stuff. So And did you see when they were doing the golf thing and

Kelli (16:17.068)
Yep. Yeah.

Lori (16:25.25)
Vicky's like, I took some lessons a while ago and I was really good and then she goes to do it and misses like three times. Then she throws a club and says, I quit. I was like, my God, what are you doing? Yes.

Kelli (16:34.242)
Yep. She's like a toddler.

She's like a toddler.

Lori (16:41.259)
Unbelievable.

Kelli (16:43.594)
Gina in the other bike says it's not cool that Heather went apartment shopping with Carmela and she thinks it's retaliation because Gina told Emily that Heather called Carmella trashy. Gina, it's it's time to get over the the fucking San Diego apartment thing. I mean, is this all you have?

Lori (17:01.666)
Yeah. And I kinda feel like and I kinda feel like I know Heather's a good housewife and plays the game and everything, but I think she's got like way more things going on than worrying about you, Gina, and how to retaliate at you. Like I don't

Kelli (17:25.132)
I do think that Heather cuts people off. I think K Heather cuts people off. No, I do think Heather I think that Heather does retaliate and I think that that's why Katie Janella's off the show. I think when Katie Janella came on the show and called Heather and Terry out for hiring the paparazzi to follow them around Disneyland, which I one hundred percent believe they did. that was it for Katie. Katie got a big ol' X on her back as a target and the rest of the women

Lori (17:25.364)
I could be wrong.

Lori (17:46.296)
Uh-huh.

Kelli (17:54.467)
fell in line to take Katie down and they succeeded. I do think Heather retaliates, but I don't think I don't think she's I don't think she's retaliating now against Gina for going to Carmella to get I think she saw an opportunity to have a connection with another house a new housewife that would be good for the show. And that's why she did it. Her going to Gina for a rental for her kid that's not

Lori (17:57.295)
okay, okay.

Lori (18:05.089)
Right. okay.

Lori (18:15.422)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (18:24.342)
You know, that's nothing. But a new girl

Lori (18:26.262)
Right, right, yeah.

Kelli (18:29.932)
It's a little bit more.

Lori (18:30.018)
Well again, I think she went to Carmella because that was gonna be the best thing for Heather.

Kelli (18:37.516)
Right. Right. She's not stupid.

Lori (18:38.52)
So it's got nothing to do with nothing. She's gonna do what's best for her and her kid and

That's it.

Kelli (18:45.624)
Then Shannon has to run to pee on the golf course. I a I actually loved this and I and I've been calling Shannon out for a lot of shtick she's been doing. I don't think this was shtick. I think this really happened. When I gotta go now, I gotta go.

Lori (18:59.404)
That's something that's something that I feel like I would have done. I'd have been like, I'm really sorry, but I really have to pay in your bathroom. Either that or I would have been like, Okay, fuck you soul. I'm taking the cart and it's gonna go like as fast as it goes and I'm going to where there's a bathroom. That would've been my right. That would have been my first option. The second option would have been to bust down on somebody's door and be like, So sorry, but it's gotta happen.

Kelli (19:04.46)
You would definitely do that.

Kelli (19:17.644)
Right, and I don't care who I run over in on the way. Yes.

Kelli (19:28.758)
No, that was amazing. That was so good. But Vicky, again, she's the worst. She fucking leaves her there and drives off. Bye Shannon. Bye Shannon. Like what I don't I I don't know.

Lori (19:38.04)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (19:44.375)
the bike ladies go to the Madden Vin to eat. Gina says, as soon as they sit down, I'm just gonna talk about this. She says, Heather said Max was gonna be looking for a home and you were gonna reach out to Carmella about that. And both Tamara and Emily said Gina's going to be upset about that. Heather says, I'm so sorry you were hurt. And I was looking for a rental for Max in an area that Carmella specializes in.

And then Gina brings up the fact that Heather was trash talking Carmella and then went to her for help. And they're all talking about Carmella as if she's not even sitting there.

Lori (20:25.91)
Yep. Well, I'll tell you what, both of these trips looked very uncomfortable. I would not want to be on either one. No.

Kelli (20:32.302)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (20:36.119)
Neither one.

Kelli (20:39.704)
Right. So Gina keeps bringing up the fact that Heather card Carmela trashy, and Heather says, I think you did that on purpose to hurt me. obviously. But really, like, why are we still talking about this? Like, Heather got in front of the problem. Carmela's letting it go.

The other ladies have to move on. They're not they're they're like not moving on from it.

Kelli (21:11.578)
Carmela says what's what bothered me was that you to Heather, what you what's bothering me was you were texting me like, I can't wait to see you, but then you're calling me trashy. And then in her confessional, Carmela's like, Maybe Heather really is a very good actress. She's not. Don't fall for it, Carmela. She's not.

Lori (21:31.17)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (21:34.016)
And then they told Carmella that it was very clear that she likes Shannon better than Vicky by the presence because Shannon got the little purse and Vicky got the wallet.

Lori (21:43.8)
Yeah, and Carmelo said, Vicki's lucky I didn't get her a vibrator and tell her to go fuck herself. Yes.

Kelli (21:48.607)
Yes. And then they bring up the fact that Vicky was trash talking her house. you know, talking about what's in her pantry and all stupid shit.

Lori (22:00.288)
I love that she FaceTimed to the about the pantry.

Kelli (22:04.022)
Mm-hmm. Sh. So Carmela's like, who goes to someone's house like Inspector Gadget FaceTimes Danny and says, go into the pantry and show everybody? And he showed everybody the pantry.

Lori (22:13.58)
That's great. I like that. And I love how all the girls were saying, Look, give give her a vodka and she perks right up.

Kelli (22:23.17)
Yeah.

so now we go to like back at La Quinta, back at Vicky's house. Now this is where things get real interesting. They go into the pool, something gets stuck on Emily's foot, she's saying it's a condom, but it looked like it was like a t shirt or something, right?

Lori (22:45.176)
What you look like a baby wipe. Look like look like a wipe. It was weird.

Kelli (22:48.023)
okay. Interesting.

They all go in the jacuzzi and they bring up the low-hanging fruit conversation. And

Lori (22:58.978)
And not for nothing, but if you can have people come over to your home on a television show and go into a pool

Have a pool guy there and skim the pool before everybody gets in. There's like all kinds of dirt all kinds of debris in the pool. Leaves and all like who Yes, who does that?

Kelli (23:15.31)
Why was there a lot of shit on top?

Kelli (23:21.25)
I did not even notice. Yeah, I don't I don't wanna swim in a pool but all shit on top of it. It's very easy to skim the pool.

Lori (23:27.688)
No, I was like Skim the pool. Have somebody skim the pool before you film. It's quite simple.

Kelli (23:35.586)
Right. You could you could even do it yourself.

Lori (23:39.725)
You could.

Kelli (23:43.074)
So they bring up the low hanging fruit conversation and that she jabs at Jen when someone brings up Vicki's relationship and she's and she yells Okay because you can't tell Vicki she did anything wrong, obviously.

Lori (23:56.929)
N obviously not.

Kelli (24:00.215)
Emily says Vicky has strong opinions about everyone, but doesn't share anything about her life. And she's right. This is why she should have stayed a friend of. She should never have been made a full time housewife again. She brings nothing. Nothing.

Lori (24:12.77)
No. Nothing. Nothing except for like aggravation because she's so annoying. I love how Emily says arguing with Annabelle is more sophisticated than arguing with Becky. It's great.

Kelli (24:19.598)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:27.758)
Yeah. Emily says, we're putting a lot of time into a friendship with you and it's not being reciprocated. And Vicky says, I don't want to talk about it anymore. You're in my home and you aren't respecting me. And even Shannon, her dos amigos, tries to talk to her about it. And she's getting so angry. And she says, Stop picking on me.

Lori (24:49.698)
Yes, very angry.

Like a little like I I'm telling you, there's something very infantile about her. Not able to have an adult type of conversation.

Kelli (24:59.747)
Yeah.

Lori (25:06.252)
You know, there's there's there's ways to handle yourself as a grown ass woman. You know, as a grown ass woman. Just to be like, Yeah, I get it, but you know what? It's really fucking aggravate me. I don't want to talk about it. Let's have a drink. Let's you know what, bitch bitch me out tomorrow. Like there's just there's just ways to to do it without sounding like an absolute ass. A child. It's horrible.

Kelli (25:31.296)
A child A child with opposition defiance disorder, quite honestly.

Lori (25:36.212)
Absolutely, yes.

Kelli (25:39.331)
So Trans Shannon's trying to talk to her and Vicky gets very defensive and tells Shannon she would never let someone talk to her like that. excuse me, ma'am. But Tamma dragged Shannon's ass for the last two seasons about being a drunk and an alcoholic. You barely said anything. One time you were like, She can have a drink, she's not driving. That's it. That's all Vicky ever said.

Lori (25:59.331)
Right.

Kelli (26:02.67)
Emily and Jen go back into the kitchen after being after hiding in their bedroom because they don't even know what to do at this point. Jen apologizes, and Vicky says she's very upset right now. And she's like, When I apologize to someone, I will move on. And Emily's Emily's like, Did you apologize? And that makes Vicky even more mad. But

Lori (26:27.02)
Then she gets all jacked up all over again, even more pissed off, yeah.

Kelli (26:31.48)
She never apologized. And Shannon's getting all awkward and like trying to be funny. And Emily says she's like the sweetest chef from the Muppets. That was so funny. and then Vicky says, Thank God Michael is not here. Why? What's Michael gonna do?

Lori (26:33.186)
Nope.

Lori (26:39.15)
Yeah, 'cause he's trying to diffuse. Right, trying to diffuse the situation. It's not working.

Lori (26:48.384)
It was great.

Kelli (27:00.95)
What what's Michael gonna do?

Kelli (27:07.009)
Lori (27:07.118)
She's a she's absolutely insufferable. And I think that's and I think that part of the problem is is that I have to watch her on two shows. So the insufferability is doubled.

Kelli (27:12.216)
Get sh

Kelli (27:21.952)
Exactly.

Kelli (27:26.114)
And she's horrible on both. And we didn't talk about it on Ultimate Girls Trip, but our recap, but I've seen a lot on social media. And when she says she feels uncomfortable, she feels unseen, nobody's talking to her, a lot of people think that she felt that way because of the diversity in the room she was in in Atlanta.

Lori (27:28.056)
Horrible. Heinous.

Lori (27:54.828)
Well I think that

Lori (27:59.321)
I have mixed thoughts on this because I think in some ways it's true, but I also think in some ways that she would have felt that way no matter what the color of anybody's skin. And I think that it's unfortunate that it was women of a darker skin. Because I don't necessarily think that and I could be wrong because I don't know Vicky at all.

But I don't think it's necessarily that they were black and successful. I just think it's that they were successful.

Kelli (28:39.554)
Well and plus the fact that they weren't falling all over her the way they were falling all over Nene.

Lori (28:42.414)
Exactly. So so yeah, so I kinda think it

Kelli (28:46.306)
Because it was kind of like she and Nene were coming back from from not being on the show. But historically historically, the women in OC have not been particularly kind to any woman of color that has joined the cast.

Lori (28:51.817)
Right, right.

Lori (29:02.564)
okay. See, see that that I didn't know. So for me, I try not to necessarily look at things in terms of color. You know, like I

Kelli (29:05.154)
Historically.

Kelli (29:09.196)
Sure. I honestly didn't think that when we were watching it. I really thought it was just that nobody was falling all over her.

Lori (29:17.428)
Right, right.

Kelli (29:19.052)
But I I heard it I saw it a lot on social media this week and I was like, Shit, man, there really might be something to that.

Lori (29:26.24)
Right. Well, you know, you could you could think of it in those terms, but w for me without anything without any other background, I just took it as she would be like that no matter what.

Kelli (29:40.342)
Right. Probably. Probably.

Lori (29:42.497)
You know what I mean? Like I I don't know.

I'm not saying that kind of thing doesn't exist. I'm just saying for me, my mind just didn't even think to go there. But what do I know?

Kelli (29:46.627)
So

Right, of course.

Kelli (29:54.872)
Didn't go there. Right.

So Vicky leaves the kitchen and goes to her room. Michael comes home and Shannon's like this is bad, guys, this is bad. I think we should leave. What is this guy gonna do? Why are we so scared of Michael? He seems like a very docile old man, quite honestly. He just wanted to go gamble a little bit, you know?

Lori (30:13.474)
Yeah. Yeah. No.

Lori (30:17.922)
Right. But th look, this is this is what the dude gets though. Cause don't think you're gonna be hanging out with three or four middle aged women on a reality TV show and not get exactly this.

Kelli (30:19.587)
Jen and Emily are like

Kelli (30:34.732)
Right. So Jen and Emily are like something is is off and then Vicky comes out and says, Michael's in there and everybody can get the fuck out and she tells the producers too, like I'm out and she takes her her mic thing off.

Lori (30:48.001)
Mm.

Girl, you need to give back the orange. Every last slice. Give her back.

Kelli (30:54.658)
Give back the orange.

Yep. Yeah, 'cause that was that was that was too much.

Lori (31:03.096)
We wanna we wanna make some Lual salad with the marshmallows and the pineapple and the orange slices and sour cream. We need the orange bath.

Kelli (31:09.858)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:15.606)
Yeah, give the orange back. She sucks. She sucks.

Lori (31:17.646)
'Cause 'cause there's no there is nothing appetizing going on there.

Kelli (31:25.984)
Nah. So that was it for OC. I don't even think if I saw previews for next week.

Lori (31:29.784)
Thank God.

Lori (31:36.79)
I don't even know if they did because I was so tired of watching it that I just totally like blanked out on it.

Kelli (31:42.304)
Yeah, I don't I don't think they showed any.

Lori (31:45.186)
Good. I was happy. Not I just don't no. I'm good. good.

Kelli (31:46.466)
Yeah. Good. That's right. all right. So that's it. Thank you for watching and listening. please, like I said, subscribe, follow and all the things.

Lori (32:01.42)
And yada yada yada. Bye.

Kelli (32:03.321)
Bye.