Real Housewives of Miami Season 7 Episode 5 Narcissists Assemble: A Greek Tragedy

Kelli (00:01.027)
Hi, welcome to We Why Whenever, I'm Kelly.

Gina (00:03.832)
I'm cousin Gina.

Kelli (00:05.455)
Cousin Gina is here because Wendy's on a cruise with her husband and friends and cousin Gina was nice enough to sit in and we always love having you.

Gina (00:15.758)
wish I was with Wendy, but my cousin Kelly's second best.

Kelli (00:17.663)
I know. Thank you. I appreciate it. So we're talking about Real Housewives of Miami, season seven, episode five, Miami God.

Gina (00:31.918)
Miami God.

Kelli (00:33.603)
Well, I guess because at the end, they were doing all the, I didn't write them down, Wendy probably would have written them down, but they did all the goddesses of whatever. I know, I know. So the episode starts out with Alexia meeting up with Daniel, who is a self-help expert. She came across him on Instagram. And even though he's young, she felt that he had a lot of wisdom.

Gina (00:44.231)
that was stupid. That was stupid, yeah.

Gina (01:02.463)
Yeah, he got a lot of wisdom right here in his pretty face.

Kelli (01:03.183)
So exactly. So I guess he's like a spiritual leader type of guy.

Gina (01:10.421)
He's also grasped at a storyline.

Kelli (01:13.345)
Yeah, and could not promote his books enough. I've written three books, I've written three books, I've written three books. We get it, you've written three books. So he's telling her how she has to listen to her gut. She said her head is telling her, Alexia, be careful, but her heart is telling her to stay with Todd. What do you think about Todd?

Gina (01:37.077)
You know...

don't like the way he left her. The fact that he blindsided her without trying to make the marriage worse, I would not have given him a second chance because of that. Listen, I was with my man for 47 years. Things aren't easy all the time. It takes work. And I don't think he was devoted enough to that marriage to put the work in. And then again, they were older when they got married.

Kelli (01:41.913)
No.

Gina (02:09.249)
but there's something fishy about him. I mean, look at that whole thing. it's we're better off renting than buying and he's a real estate agent.

Kelli (02:16.311)
Right, right. So it is a big question. who, like does he have money? Does she have money? Cause Wendy and I talked about this. Like, you know, she was married to her first husband, the boy's father. she was married to him twice?

Gina (02:17.909)
Yeah.

Gina (02:32.333)
Twice. Yeah, did you see him on Cocaine Cowboys? Yeah, I think it's on Hulu.

Kelli (02:38.177)
I didn't watch that. I knew he was on it, but I didn't watch it. She married him twice.

Gina (02:43.093)
Yeah, he was hot. He's adorable.

Kelli (02:46.691)
I believe it. I'm gonna have to watch that.

Gina (02:47.807)
Yeah, I would have married him twice too. Yeah, he was a cutie. But she married him twice and then she married. No, four times. Yeah, Herman was the third marriage. Second husband, third marriage and then Todd. So I mean.

Kelli (02:56.879)
I mean, listen, we're all-

Herman.

Kelli (03:06.777)
and then talk.

Yeah, so she definitely got some money when Herman passed.

Gina (03:13.384)
Why are you why did yes but Herman was he turned out he was gay. That was that shocked me I never I didn't never picked up on that.

Kelli (03:20.718)
Right.

Kelli (03:25.583)
I don't remember, I mean, I definitely watched Miami from the beginning. I don't remember him much, what I do remember him, I remember them being very happy together. So I would imagine that that was a secret that he kept and he's not the only one, these things happen. And I don't think it minimizes what relationship they had with each other. I think that him and Alexia really did love each other.

Gina (03:29.161)
Yeah.

Gina (03:36.18)
Yes, he was a great guy.

Gina (03:45.291)
No.

Gina (03:52.458)
Yeah, I mean, there is a such thing as bisexuality. You can love people from both genders. You know, but I liked him. I'm sorry he passed.

Kelli (03:56.525)
Yeah, it... Right. Right. So...

Me too, because I did like him too. I thought, I don't think he was on much, but he was a likable guy.

Gina (04:06.495)
Yeah.

But first off, I don't like her. She is too full of herself. And you know what cemented it for me? This new, what is this new lady's name? Stephanie?

Kelli (04:20.176)
yeah, I don't like Stephanie.

Gina (04:22.859)
It's a strange name for somebody so young. I'm having a hard time remembering her name, but she said something that Alexia always says that she's the star of the show. Did you hear her say that on Watch What Happens Live the other night? She said Alexia always stays.

Kelli (04:27.896)
Yeah.

Kelli (04:39.127)
I did not, I very rarely watch Watch What Happens Live. Somebody I really like has to be on Watch What Happens Live for me to watch it now because I'm kind of losing it for Andy a little bit. I'll watch the after shows now. Wendy and Lori turned me on to the after shows. I don't know. I don't like the way he kisses Teresa's ass. He kisses all the wrong people's ass.

Gina (04:51.001)
what is wrong with you? How can you lose it for Andy?

Gina (04:59.059)
I love Andy.

Gina (05:04.051)
I agree.

Kelli (05:05.718)
And I don't like Alexia either, because I think Alexia is the Miami Teresa. I feel like they're the same person. Right?

Gina (05:09.769)
Yes, exactly, exactly. And Louie tried to date her before Teresa. He sure did.

Kelli (05:15.459)
Yes, he did. And I don't care what Alexia says or what Teresa says, that is a fact. And it all comes down to his sister who stalked both of them and sent him in for the kill.

Gina (05:21.364)
Yep.

Gina (05:25.193)
Yep. Yep. Exactly. You know how I feel about Louie. We could do a whole show on that. But that's why I don't like Alexia. I don't hate her like I hate Teresa. I just don't like her.

Kelli (05:28.655)
I stand by it.

Kelli (05:34.819)
I think we probably should. Yeah. No, I agree.

Right. I have the same exact feelings. So.

Gina (05:47.518)
Yeah. My favorite one on the show is Marisol.

Gina (05:54.89)
I don't care what she contributes, I just need to see her for two minutes sipping on her coffee.

Kelli (06:02.391)
like Marisol, but did you hear, I don't know if you heard. So Dr. Nicole, who left, has a podcast with Dr. Tiffany Moon from Dallas.

Gina (06:10.731)
love her.

Yeah, I heard it.

Kelli (06:17.719)
And Dr. Nicole said that it's gotta be Marisol. One of the friends of had a private investigator following her around to find some shit on her and Anthony, her partner.

Gina (06:30.645)
She said it was a friend of. And see, that's weird, because to me Marisol was never... I don't think Kiki would do it, but I definitely think Adriana would do it. But why would Adriana have to dig up dirt on Alexia?

Kelli (06:32.665)
She did. So that only leaves Marisol, Kiki, or Adriana.

Kelli (06:41.902)
I don't think-

Kelli (06:45.871)
It was definitely Marisol because Alexia did not like Nicole from the jump. And I think it's because Nicole is self-made. Yes, she has a partner who's very wealthy, but she's an anesthesiologist.

Gina (06:59.368)
and he's an attorney. think she's one of the best housewives we ever had. I loved her. She was a true housewife with money because that's why we watch these shows. Yeah.

Kelli (07:04.665)
Totally agree.

Kelli (07:08.761)
Yep. That's why we watched it. That's why we started watching OC because Vicki Gunvalson owned her insurance company. She was married to Don. She left Chicago because she didn't want to live that life anymore. She went to the OC. started. I mean, this is what we want to watch. We want to watch wealthy women.

Gina (07:25.022)
But they all have wealth that's attainable. It's not like we're watching Jeff Bezos wealth. This is all what we could attain if we did the steps. But I'm not crazy about her. I love Marisol and I love Julia.

Kelli (07:30.467)
Yes.

Kelli (07:47.917)
You and I are definitely gonna disagree on that.

Gina (07:49.168)
I love Julia. Maybe because I love Martina so much and that's her wife. You know? Yeah, that's okay. We agree on Teresa. That's all that matters. Yeah.

Kelli (07:56.131)
Yeah, we're gonna disagree on that. All right, so Alexia is throwing, yeah, we totally agree on Teresa, yeah. Alexia is throwing a Greek-themed narcissistic party with the girls and Daniel will be there. So then we go, everybody's preparing for this hurricane. Lisa and Jodie are preparing for it. We see Marisol preparing for it.

Stephanie goes to her office. This must be.

Gina (08:30.442)
Wait, excuse me, none of them prepared for it. They all said, there's a hurricane coming. You know what we have to do when there's a hurricane coming? Did you see them doing any of that sandbag and moving stuff? Nothing. We know what it's like. Yeah.

Kelli (08:36.227)
Yeah, you're right.

Kelli (08:44.365)
No, no, well, Lisa's in a penthouse suite. mean, she's 300 feet up in the air. Yeah, she don't need to. Okay, all right, Lisa and Jodie were talking. Stephanie, the new girl goes to her office. Her Shoma Bazaar manager, JC, was there.

Gina (08:51.518)
you got a lot of windows.

Kelli (09:12.355)
He starts gassing up her business. It's broken records, saying how well it did last week. Then she starts talking about all the businesses her husband built. So then she says, she's the president. That's what I was just gonna say. She starts rambling off her duties in this position. Now, cousin Gina sent Wendy and I an article.

Gina (09:25.5)
Did you read that article?

Gina (09:36.668)
read the article wrong. It wasn't her family, it was his first wife's family that had the money to start the business.

Kelli (09:47.885)
Yeah, so she was, she was her husband's first wife's assistant. They didn't meet, well maybe they met at a Miami Heat game, but she was working for his wife at the time.

Gina (09:48.893)
Yeah.

Gina (09:54.16)
Yep. And while they were...

Gina (10:01.384)
the first wife's family was funding the business.

Kelli (10:05.401)
So this woman is, so this first wife is married to, what's his name? Musaad? Is that his last name? I don't know, whatever his name is.

Gina (10:14.168)
Shoma's his last name or something.

Kelli (10:17.389)
Yeah, so he's married to this woman, her family's funding his business ventures. Here comes this little chippy assistant, starts sleeping with him, correct? They start having an affair?

Gina (10:30.46)
Yep. Yeah, because in that article I sent, they did the timeline of when they got married and when he got divorced. There was like a five year overlap. They may have been separated for a part of that, but yeah, that.

Kelli (10:45.559)
and his ex-wife and his children do not speak to him.

Gina (10:50.235)
That's right. And they just walked away with the money.

Kelli (10:51.843)
Yeah. Yep.

Right, right. So they're at this property, Larsa and Kiki show up. Stephanie's mom calls in the middle of it. She says how she's so close with her parents, she even brought them on her honeymoon. Weird. Kiki tells them about her four-year-old brother, Stephanie and Larsa try to encourage Kiki to not focus on the negative with her dad and move forward in a positive way. And then Stephanie...

Gina (10:58.417)
So.

Gina (11:12.498)
Yeah. Lorsa was funny.

Gina (11:23.368)
Don't you love Kiki?

Kelli (11:25.301)
I do love Kiki. I do not love that Kiki is very shady with Gertie.

Gina (11:34.351)
Yeah, yeah, very much so. I think something happened we don't know about. Yeah.

Kelli (11:35.789)
Isn't she?

Other than that, I love Keke. I totally agree. Yeah. So Stephanie tells the girls that she has twin sisters, so she must be a triplet, and that she was inseparable from them.

Gina (11:50.299)
Why? Why? You could have twin sisters and not be a part of them. They could be older or younger.

Kelli (11:56.393)
I took it as they were her twins. I'm an idiot, you're right. I thought she was a triplet!

Gina (12:00.709)
Yeah, no, then they would be triplets.

Kelli (12:05.785)
I didn't even drink when I was watching, I'm drinking now, but I didn't even drink when I was taking these notes. Okay, so Stephanie has twin sisters. And they were inseparable. Okay, okay. But then they started working for Shoma and it didn't end well and now they haven't spoken in three to four years. She said, yeah. And then they started texting.

Gina (12:08.189)
Ha

Gina (12:13.233)
Yeah. And I think they're younger than her.

Gina (12:25.766)
Until the hurricane, they were texting her and her mom. And then as soon as they found out that they were okay, they cut communication off again.

Kelli (12:39.405)
Yeah. Yeah, as soon as she was like, well, hey, you know, she, I guess started asking them questions. They kind of backed off, but you know.

Gina (12:51.409)
Hey, a lot of housewives don't talk to their siblings like our number one Danielle Cabral. And we love her.

Kelli (12:52.611)
these things happen.

Yeah.

Kelli (12:59.801)
God. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, we do love Danielle. I know. I wonder, I wonder if she's reconciled with her brother by now.

Gina (13:10.201)
I hope so, only because I like her so much. I like her and Rachel. That was good casting.

Kelli (13:11.458)
I hope so too.

Kelli (13:17.081)
So.

It was great casting. So let's put Miami aside real quick. So from what I understand, Melissa Delores, Teresa and Margaret are confirmed for BravoCon. To me, that means that if Jersey comes back, these are four of them that are coming back.

Gina (13:37.209)
Yeah, but it doesn't necessarily mean that. Maybe Therese might be.

Kelli (13:41.645)
I don't understand why they wouldn't bring Rachel and Danielle. If you're bringing Teresa back, like I really wish they wouldn't. I really wish they would give.

Gina (13:49.574)
I heard them say they were going to Rachel back but not Danielle. No, no, they weren't bringing Rachel back because they didn't like her husband. But he was the whole show last season. If it wasn't for her husband, yeah.

Kelli (13:54.595)
I don't understand.

Kelli (14:01.039)
I don't even believe that. Yeah, the story was that he was too difficult. I don't even believe that. think Louie put that out there.

Gina (14:08.389)
Yes, there is so much fake news out there and you really have to look at who's putting the story out. There are some websites. I can't think of what they're called right now. One of them has a word cafe in the word, but you really got to be careful because a lot of that is is completely 100 % fake. And until I hear it come out of Andy's mouth,

Kelli (14:12.494)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (14:27.363)
Okay.

Kelli (14:34.817)
yeah.

Gina (14:37.115)
But John Hill is very good with asking Andy questions on the radio. And then Andy will tell you if it's true or not.

Kelli (14:41.806)
Okay.

What do you listen to radio Andy on Sirius? Okay.

Gina (14:47.15)
Yeah, I don't listen to it all the time, but they will put something out. It's like somebody will say, hey, I heard Andy say this today that that's not true. Yeah.

Kelli (14:58.241)
Okay, well, I wish that Rachel and Danielle were gonna be at BravoCon. really, my wish to Bravo, to the Bravo gods who are listening, bring everybody back but Teresa, and please let's see these women just have fun together. Now, Wendy sent us a text that Melissa ended her podcast. I'm a little sad because I really liked Melissa's podcast, but I understand.

Gina (15:10.064)
but Teresa.

Kelli (15:23.713)
She said that she has big things coming up with Sprinkle by MJ. I'm assuming maybe they're opening a bakery or something. I don't know. Whatever it is, I'm here for it. Actually, well, Wendy won't know this and this won't air until she gets back, but Wendy's birthday is Sunday and she really has wanted to try the Sprinkle coffee cake. So I ordered her one. I have it for her birthday. Yeah, supposedly it's good. So we'll see.

Gina (15:33.403)
Yeah.

Gina (15:44.645)
Aww, I didn't know they put a coffee cake out.

Gina (15:51.111)
that's a great gift.

Kelli (15:52.591)
We'll do a taste test on Sunday night.

Gina (15:55.373)
Yeah, but Melissa is going to be in the, life swap. Right. And then, yeah.

Kelli (15:59.895)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm assuming that's she meant by filming.

Gina (16:05.338)
You know who knows I mean listen to recent get so side gigs to you know traders or whatever she was I will watch it if Teresa's on. No. That's what it was yeah I won't watch that and if I like traders.

Kelli (16:13.461)
I will not either. She was on House of Villains. I won't watch it.

I don't watch anything she's on, I won't watch anything Gia's on. I won't watch Next Gen NYC because Gia's on it.

Gina (16:25.645)
No, I won't watch it. I hear that G is not on it a

Kelli (16:31.885)
That's what Wendy said.

Gina (16:33.111)
Yeah, that it's a lot of Kim's daughter, Ariana. Is it Ariana? And Brooks Mark.

Kelli (16:38.201)
Yeah. Yes.

Yes. And Candy's daughter, Riley, which I do love that Riley and Ariana are such good friends because, you know, their moms had a falling out, but it's nice that it didn't affect their friendship or maybe at least they're rebuilding, you know, cause they, like them, you know, I don't like Kim. I don't like Teresa. I don't like Meredith. I love Candy.

Gina (16:47.683)
Riley, yeah. I love her.

Gina (16:57.39)
Their moms sued each other. Yeah.

Gina (17:10.521)
You know, I couldn't watch anything that, what's her face was on, Kim Zolciak. Like I couldn't watch a show, but I did watch Surreal Life. Cause I love that. And she was on that and her and, yeah, they were, they were doing it dirty, even though they said they weren't.

Kelli (17:18.627)
Me neither.

Kelli (17:24.527)
Is that where she met Tom Hanks' son?

Gina (17:36.942)
But they were doing it dirty because they had went into the bathroom with the only place there was in cameras for like an hour and a half.

Kelli (17:37.305)
She's gross.

Kelli (17:43.412)
Ew, she's gross. You're a mother for crying out loud. You got like, what, six fucking kids?

Gina (17:44.951)
Yeah.

Gina (17:48.292)
Have you seen Chet Hanks? Have you seen Chet Ha-

Kelli (17:52.515)
Now.

Gina (17:53.624)
he's hot.

Kelli (17:55.417)
I know, but come on. You have six kids and you're on TV. You're really gonna go in the bathroom with some fucking guy that you just met? You are. All right, all right. I'm gonna have to look him up. But your kids are gonna see this. Your kids are gonna know.

Gina (18:00.173)
Yeah, but-

Gina (18:04.303)
with Chad Hanks? Yeah, I am. Yeah. He's a little young for me, but...

Gina (18:14.772)
that's not the worst thing she's done. I mean, come on, look at the whole losing the house thing. That's more embarrassing than sleeping with Chet Hanks.

Kelli (18:18.521)
Well, that's

Kelli (18:25.337)
Well, that's true.

Gina (18:26.595)
You know?

Kelli (18:28.207)
That's true.

Gina (18:29.281)
Where is she living now?

Kelli (18:32.025)
Kim? I don't know. I mean, I think they lost that house in Atlanta, right?

Gina (18:32.857)
Yeah.

Gina (18:38.754)
I don't even know she been on next gen you know what when he's got to do more podcasts on that.

Kelli (18:42.349)
Yeah, I think she was on it. I think they showed her, Candy and Teresa on it. Seth Marks has been on it. Yeah.

Gina (18:52.097)
And then we got news today that we don't believe it. It could be a fake story that Meredith Marx is going to be a DJ. Have a, what's that called? Where your house? just look at her. She's like, it's like me. Can you imagine me up there spinning? It's like, wheel me up, wheel me up there.

Kelli (19:01.465)
House Residency.

Kelli (19:11.023)
She's like a statue. She's like a statue.

It's ridiculous. Nobody wants to go listen to her. Who's going to see that?

Gina (19:20.065)
No, not one bit. Not me.

Kelli (19:24.599)
No, me neither. Me neither.

Gina (19:26.756)
You know, it's just like they do big residencies like the guys from that Jersey Shore show. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, you know, down here in Atlantic City, Paris, Hilton, they, know, lot of big, big people do them, but. Oh, I go see Brody Jenner. You don't even have to talk. Just stand up there.

Kelli (19:32.917)
I'd go see Pauly D in a heartbeat.

Kelli (19:43.853)
Yeah, Brody Jenner was there.

Kelli (19:51.311)
Totally agree. He is one of my hallplaces. Brody Jenner is definitely a hall pass. Yeah. All right. So Alexia is meeting the GURY.

Gina (19:52.109)
Bring him in the bathroom with Chet. Bring him in the bathroom with Chet.

Gina (20:01.677)
Wait, excuse me. If you like Brody Jenner, do you know he used to do a reality show?

Kelli (20:07.181)
Yeah, with Spencer Pratt. Yep.

Gina (20:08.748)
Yeah, I saw it the other day. Somebody was rerunning it.

Kelli (20:12.995)
The princes of Malibu?

Gina (20:15.127)
That was it, because David Foster was his stepfather at the time. His mother was, yeah.

Kelli (20:20.077)
His mother was, yeah, his mother was married to David Foster before he left her for Yolanda.

Gina (20:27.361)
Yeah, I never saw that show before.

Kelli (20:30.253)
and then he left Yolanda for Catherine McPhee.

I think there was somebody, wait, there might've been somebody in between. Selma.

Gina (20:36.013)
I thought he left her.

Somebody in between, yeah.

Kelli (20:44.439)
Yeah, he is a dirty dog, David Foster. He's disgusting. But yes, he was with Linda, who was also with Elvis. Linda has some resume.

Gina (20:49.442)
His

Gina (20:53.601)
Yes, she wasn't she with. Was it she would almost when he died?

Kelli (20:58.935)
I think she was Elvis's girlfriend when he died and then she was with Bruce Jenner, had Brody and Brandon and then was with David Foster. I mean, there could have been somebody in between and David Foster was with her and then Yolanda. And then I think, I can't remember her name. He is still with Catherine McPhee, yeah. He was with somebody in between though.

Gina (21:14.858)
Is he still with Catherine McPhee?

His daughter was on Watch What Happens Live the other night. She's got a show coming out. I forgot what it's about. It didn't sound that great. But she went to college with Jeff Lewis, so she's on Jeff's show a lot.

Kelli (21:29.251)
Really?

Kelli (21:37.293)
that's interesting.

Gina (21:38.603)
Yeah, like she's been on Jeff's show as a college friend for years, never even talks about her father.

Kelli (21:46.721)
listen to him that long. I'm like a, I told you, I'm like a, like a, every week is like two tees, I always listen to two tees in a pod. I always listen to Melissa Gorga. I always listen to Legally Brunette with Emily Simpson. And then, and then if I can, I listen to Jeff Lewis, Heather McDonald and David Yontep.

Gina (22:08.778)
Yeah, I listen to Jeff and Heather all the time. I listen to their shows. And then if I have time, I listen to you, your podcast, and then David Yonti, Behind the Velvet Rope. I don't know why, but I trust him.

Kelli (22:21.069)
Yeah. Yeah.

Gina (22:26.036)
I trust that he does his research or he'll tell you it's not confirmed.

Kelli (22:31.489)
I think because he's a lawyer, I think he's very careful with his words, so I do think he's truthful. But my only problem with David Yontov is he says things as if he has like some inside scoop, but he's saying things that we already already know. It's like. Exactly, like he acts like he has some inside scoop. It's like, we knew that already.

Gina (22:45.129)
Yeah, he's reading the same blogs we are.

Gina (22:52.053)
I don't know why, but I love listening to them.

Kelli (22:54.613)
I don't mind him at all. I didn't like him for a while and I'll tell you why. I didn't like him when he always had Kim Dae-yeon.

Gina (22:56.096)
Yeah.

Gina (23:02.581)
Yes, but she's such a flip-flopper. I love Kim D. I pay for Kim D cameo. I always loved Kim D, but she's flip-flopping too much with the Teresa thing. I don't think she likes her this week.

Kelli (23:03.733)
And once they had their full-

I don't, I know you did, I can't believe.

Kelli (23:16.963)
I'm sorry, but if it weren't for Kim D and Gia, Teresa would never be on a podcast. It was the only podcast, and Jaclyn Lurita, you can go fucking pound salt. Because talk about the queen of flip-flopping.

Gina (23:27.52)
Why would she?

Gina (23:32.117)
Jacqueline? Yeah.

Kelli (23:33.397)
Yes, yes. Shut the fuck up, Jaclyn. You heard Teresa talking about you in that RV in California. You heard her. You hated her. But now you got some bug up your ass about Melissa, so now you're coming from Melissa and you and Teresa are BFFs. Get out here.

Gina (23:48.993)
Mm-hmm.

But Kim is a flip-flopper too.

Kelli (23:54.231)
Absolutely. Clink, clink, remember? She's the first one who did that to Teresa.

Gina (23:55.723)
but she doesn't pull any punches. Clink clink.

She did that in the cameo that I got.

Kelli (24:03.725)
I don't know why Bravo doesn't just get rid of Teresa. Just get rid of her. Just get rid of her. Do you notice on social media that nobody defends her anymore?

Gina (24:13.577)
None. The tree stumps aren't very vocal. And how about Tamara was on Watch What Happens Live the other night and she is now the longest running housewife. Not Teresa anymore.

Kelli (24:16.537)
the ch-

Kelli (24:25.903)
But she had a... she got kicked off for a while, so can that even be true?

Gina (24:28.779)
But it doesn't matter. She unseated Teresa from the throne. That's all that matters.

Kelli (24:34.379)
I have to watch, I haven't watched the new episode of OC yet, so I'll have to watch that.

Gina (24:39.967)
Watch, watch what happens afterwards, because they mention that she is now the longest running housewife.

Kelli (24:47.471)
That's interesting. All right, let's get back to Miami. So Alexia meets with Gertie. We find out that Gertie was in New York during the baby shower. She got to ring the bell at the New York Stock Exchange with the American Cancer Society. So that's why she wasn't at the baby shower. So that makes sense.

Gina (24:48.691)
Used to be Vicki, then it was Teresa of Miami.

Gina (25:06.421)
think it's a valid reason for missing a baby shower. Yeah.

Kelli (25:09.777)
for sure, for sure. So she says she feels good but misunderstood. She reflected and she feels helpless. She feels like the girls do not acknowledge her in the group and Alexia tells her that it's all in her mind.

You can't tell somebody that. If somebody feels the way they feel, they have every right to feel the way they feel, right?

Gina (25:33.12)
Yep, that's their truth.

Kelli (25:38.669)
That's their truth. So the funny thing is that Alexia is saying that Gertie is so defensive and you can't tell her anything, but I think Alexia is defensive and you can't tell her anything.

Gina (25:49.256)
No, Alexia thinks she's the queen of Miami.

Kelli (25:52.771)
She very much thinks she's the house bitch in charge.

Gina (25:55.648)
And she and that's exactly what Stephanie said on Watch What Happens Live that she said, I'm tired of hearing her say that she is the star, that she's the queen, know, that she's but you know what? She has not been on any longer than some of the other people. Adriana, Marisol, they've all been on from the beginning. Larsa.

Kelli (25:59.799)
she did.

Kelli (26:20.513)
Right, but so let's break it down. So you're right. So the housewives that are still standing from say season one are Alexia, Larsa and Lisa. Adriana and Marisol are just friends of.

Gina (26:39.668)
Doesn't matter. Let me tell you why.

Kelli (26:40.865)
It doesn't matter because why is she saying she's a star of the show when Larsa and Lisa have the same exact role she does?

Gina (26:48.282)
also even the ones that are friends of they get a lot of airtime a lot of airtime yeah if you have confessionals you should be considered a full-time housewife but I don't know where Adriana thinks that she's the queen of anything because she's not

Kelli (26:53.734)
I mean, and they have confessionals.

Kelli (27:00.013)
Yeah, for sure.

Gina (27:09.064)
You know, I love I love that she has her son on with her all the time, Frankie.

Kelli (27:14.787)
yeah, Alexia, yeah.

Gina (27:15.336)
Yeah, I think that's beautiful that she doesn't push him off to the side and that she brings to the cameras his struggles.

Kelli (27:26.125)
Listen, she's, mean, just like Teresa, we could sit here and say all the negative things we want about Teresa. She's a good mother. She puts her girls first. She's only worried about their future. I mean, I will give Teresa that. I'll give credit where credit's due. think that, no, I think she's, I think that she created a monster with Gia, quite honestly. I think she wants Gia to take over the reins of reality TV. I don't agree with all that.

Gina (27:33.427)
Great mother. Yep.

Yep. Can't take that away from her.

Gina (27:48.593)
yeah.

Kelli (27:55.043)
but she's a good mother and so is Alexia, for sure.

Gina (28:01.535)
Good mother, bad wife.

Kelli (28:01.615)
Yeah, yeah. So Kiki goes to lunch with her son Shamar and his friend, and then Larsa meets up with them. It was weird. Like Larsa makes Kiki call her dad, and Kiki's like, don't forget to call Shamar tomorrow for his birthday, which he did not. So that was like a weird little scene. I don't think that was necessary.

Gina (28:11.295)
That was weird.

Gina (28:26.269)
Yeah. Another filler, another filler.

Kelli (28:30.125)
Yeah, like you said when we were texting about doing this, you thought that this was a snooze fest. I agree with you. Then we go Stephanie and her husband.

I think his name is Masoud. He's got a big heart with animals. They go to one of the properties, Shoma Villages. He rescued the two puppies from the hurricane. This was so staged.

Gina (28:51.554)
I wanted to throw up.

Gina (28:57.939)
You have to show shit on a bed. I don't want to see that.

Kelli (29:01.283)
And it was so staged where he was like, don't let her in the second property. Don't let her. So of course, you know, we, we see the unit and it's disgusting. It's gross. Filthy. was a very staged scene. This whole season of Miami seems very staged.

Gina (29:05.311)
Mm-hmm.

Gina (29:09.982)
Yeah.

Gina (29:13.737)
It's filthy.

Gina (29:19.761)
He-

Yeah, he's weird. And I think something's going to happen with this guy. He's going to get involved in some or something's going to come to light that he did. I don't know. He's just got that that aura about him.

Kelli (29:32.984)
Yes.

Kelli (29:37.539)
Yes, Stephanie tells Masood that her sister's text her to make sure she was okay with the hurricane. But when she tried to engage more, there was silence. I guess they need baby steps. Okay, so now Gertie goes to meet Julia. This gets interesting.

Gina (29:55.644)
How uncomfortable was that?

Kelli (29:58.063)
Super uncomfortable. Julia says her emotions got the best of her the night of Marisol's wedding party and she has no excuse for throwing the water on her. Gerdy says she is blindsided and feels she's been stabbed in the back.

Julia says she shared something very private with Gertie about her facelift and Gertie told everyone who betrayed her trust. Gertie says she was matching the energy given by Julia. I'm a match the energy kind of person. So I'm on Gertie's side with this. But then, but then Julia says, but Julia said that they weren't, but Julia said that they weren't very good friends. That Julia says they were just acquaintances.

Gina (30:32.574)
No, that's a HIPAA violation. It's a HIPAA violation.

Kelli (30:42.349)
So if that were true, and this was just your acquaintance, why are you so hurt? First of all, if she's just your acquaintance, why would you tell her something so secretive and private? And why would you be so hurt that she repeated it when she's just your acquaintance?

Gina (30:53.255)
about your facelift.

Gina (30:58.075)
Yeah, I agree. I think that she never should have divulged that because that is a medical issue. Even though it is a elective surgery, still falls under the HIPAA. When Julia was apologizing to Gurney, she was not feeling it. She did not want to apologize to her. It was not honest and truthful.

Kelli (31:07.544)
elective.

Kelli (31:15.481)
Yeah.

Gina (31:27.847)
She did not feel, that was not a genuine, yeah, Julia was not genuinely apologizing to her. It seemed very forced.

Kelli (31:29.526)
You mean Julia didn't?

Kelli (31:38.009)
I agree and I do think, if you notice, Gertie did not apologize back. So Gertie must have been feeling that too.

Gina (31:45.532)
Yeah. I love Julia. I think they were both wrong. I do. And it all was the whole fight was about an influencer trip.

Kelli (31:53.497)
think it definitely got out of hand.

Kelli (31:59.469)
Right. So basically it just came down to egos.

Gina (32:00.283)
Yeah, was stupid. Yeah. I let you come with me. Yeah, but you I was already there the day before. Yeah. It's like it was the fight was over something that 98 % of the audience can't identify with. You know, we're not getting invited to influencer events.

Kelli (32:19.179)
Exactly. Exactly.

Gina (32:28.207)
Everybody thinks they're a digital creator.

Kelli (32:28.409)
So Julia then, yeah. So then Julia does finally acknowledge that they were good friends. She says, sometimes you hurt the people you love the most, which is true. So I guess she meant that about Gerty. Julia says that if anyone in the group asks how their sit down went, they're going, she's going to say it's between she and Gerty. So we'll see.

Gina (32:54.599)
But I think Julia was so wrong in not being with Martina when she had her procedure, surgery, whatever she was having. You don't go get a facelift when the love of your life is going through, it was something involving her cancer, right? Yeah, that was messed up.

Kelli (33:10.925)
Yes. Yes. I agree and...

Yeah, I agree because there, don't know. Listen, if somebody wants to give me a reduction and lift and a tummy tuck, I'm all in. I can't afford that. So I don't know what kind of recovery is involved. I would imagine a facelift. There's a big recovery. need nurses around. You need someone to take care of you. So when you're

Gina (33:20.38)
in.

Gina (33:36.879)
Huge!

Kelli (33:46.671)
Partner is going through something like cancer treatment, which is not elective Maybe you put your plastic surgery on the back burner and and give them their time Your time to help them heal

Gina (34:04.924)
I've had friends that have gone through elective surgeries, facial and body, and it's major surgery. It's not an easy recovery. It's major, major surgery. And nothing that has to be done if your wife, the woman you love, is going through something. Yeah, that was messed up.

Kelli (34:13.796)
Yeah.

Kelli (34:31.021)
Yeah, I, I agree. I agree.

Gina (34:32.932)
and she deserved to be called out for.

Kelli (34:35.459)
Yeah, and I agree with that too. I really do. Like if you're gonna come for Gertie this season, which she clearly did, and I think that Julia just wants to be in the Cool Kid Club. I think Julia wants to be with Alexia and Marisol. they, right, they don't like Adriana. Alexia and Marisol clearly do not like Adriana. Adriana, she's very rarely in the scenes.

Gina (34:50.94)
Because she hasn't had a storyline.

Gina (34:58.052)
Is she even on the show anymore?

Gina (35:04.388)
I I saw her the whole episode this week.

Kelli (35:07.765)
She comes now at the end. So now we go to Villa Toscana, which looks amazing. Alexia shows up with Daniel, the self help expert for their Greek narcissistic party. said, the girls think the party is about Todd, but it's really about all of them, which listen, I'm here for that.

So here's the time. So we see Marisol get to the bus at 12. Then Larsa arrives, Kiki arrives, Gertie arrives, Stephanie arrives, Julia arrives, and then Adriana.

Kelli (35:47.055)
Now it's 12.30 and they try calling Lisa and it goes to voicemail. One o'clock we see Alexia with Daniel at the venue, but the girls are not there yet. 1.30, they're still on the bus. 1.45, no Lisa.

Gina (36:07.055)
I heard today from Lisa that they knew she was going to be two hours late.

Kelli (36:07.203)
Two o'clock.

Kelli (36:14.605)
Okay, okay, good. we'll get, so put a pin in that. 2 p.m. Stephanie says her two pet peeves are talking about penis and people being late and then they flash back to all of the times that the girls talk about penises, which was amazing. And why is that your pet peeve? Stop.

Gina (36:19.035)
Alright.

Gina (36:31.707)
A lot of penis talk.

Yeah, even if you don't like it, it's not something that's in the front of your brain to say, I don't like this.

Kelli (36:40.139)
Exactly, who gives a shit? 2.30, Lisa shows up. Now, I don't know about you, but I'm the type of person that would have left. I would have left. If I was supposed to be somewhere at noon and something was in the way of me not leaving for two hours, I would have left. I would have gotten in my own car and driven to the venue myself.

Gina (36:53.467)
Five minutes.

Kelli (37:08.395)
If I go to a doctor's appointment at one o'clock and at 1.30, I haven't been seen yet, or at least put in a room, I'm leaving. go up to the count. I've done it a million times. My kids get anxiety sitting in doctor's offices waiting rooms with me.

Gina (37:23.542)
I do too.

Gina (37:29.26)
My time is just as important as the doctor's.

Kelli (37:33.443)
My kids are well aware that if that 30 minute mark passes, I'm making a scene. I'm going up there and I'm saying, I had a one o'clock appointment, it's now 1.30, am I being seen within the next five minutes? Because if I'm not, I'm leaving.

Gina (37:48.248)
Nope, I do the same thing.

Kelli (37:49.921)
So wouldn't you have left? It's 2.30.

Gina (37:52.106)
I would have left, but today I saw an IG post or something where she said everybody knew she was gonna be two hours late and she told them to go ahead and she would meet them there. Because you notice nobody was pissed off. Did you notice that? Nobody was upset. And who was this guy sitting in the back of the van? Did you see that?

Kelli (38:05.967)
I did notice that.

Kelli (38:14.091)
I don't know exactly. Who the fuck was he?

Gina (38:16.632)
I'm like, how did they not cut that guy out? Very easily they could have adjusted that, but nope.

Kelli (38:20.344)
Yeah.

So Lisa said they knew she was gonna be late. Even the girls knew she was gonna be late.

Gina (38:27.365)
two hours late.

Yes, she sent them all an email.

Kelli (38:34.361)
So why did they wait for her for production to make this scene? That's just stupid.

Gina (38:37.562)
Yeah, yeah, maybe they didn't tell Stephanie and they let Stephanie get pissed off. It's all for a storyline.

Kelli (38:44.717)
Yep. Yep.

Gina (38:46.35)
But I tend to believe her only because nobody else was upset. They were upset. They're like, it's about time somebody told her because she's always late. But they were just talking more in general terms about her normally being late.

Kelli (39:01.303)
Yeah, because Marisol said she's been doing this for 11 years or however long.

Gina (39:04.876)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:08.045)
Yeah, Marisol said.

Gina (39:08.858)
But I would have left. You get five, 10 minutes. Hit the road. Yeah, goodbye.

Kelli (39:13.305)
We're out because everybody was there by 1230. All right, listen, a half hour window, okay. But two and a half hours, no way.

I mean, she should have just gotten her own car, but now knowing this, she probably offered that, they said no, blah, blah, blah.

Gina (39:31.386)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:39.627)
And I mean, Lisa gave zero fucks. She took no accountability.

Gina (39:44.536)
No, because she wrote an email, told me she was gonna be late. It all makes sense when she, because I actually read that and then I went back because I rewatched the episodes before we were gonna do a plot. So I did notice that, no, nobody was upset except Stephanie.

Kelli (39:47.971)
That makes total sense.

Kelli (40:01.611)
Yeah, I think that this whole season has been so overproduced. It's like not even enjoyable to watch.

Gina (40:08.855)
Mm-hmm.

Gina (40:14.305)
I mean, I get so much enjoyment out of reality TV, but again, it's all pre-planned. There's no surprises. There's no real in reality.

Kelli (40:23.885)
Yeah!

There's no real reality.

Gina (40:28.929)
Listen, I used to sit here and watch reality. My husband watched professional wrestling and it was like we were watching the same thing. We were watching the exact same show. Two old people like stupid stuff, you know? To me, reality TV is my lifeline. just, it's mindless entertainment. I don't have to think about it.

Kelli (40:36.335)
Ha

Yes, for sure.

Yeah.

Kelli (40:52.461)
Yeah. Yeah. I would watch it. Eric would come in the room and he would be like, I would rather stab myself in the eye with a dull knife than sit here and watch this with you.

Gina (41:04.771)
Joe and I would say, I can't believe you're watching that shit. He'd walk in when I'm watching Real Housewives, and then I'd walk in when he's watching Professional Rest. It's I can't believe you watch this shit. It's the same show.

Kelli (41:08.377)
Ha ha!

Kelli (41:15.501)
Now WWE we all used to watch because Joe was into it and that was like Monday Night Raw. We were all down with the even tests.

Gina (41:21.123)
Yup.

He watched it like five nights a week. But you know what? He didn't watch football. He didn't watch baseball. But the problem is professional wrestling runs 52 weeks a year.

Kelli (41:27.216)
That's awesome.

Kelli (41:35.193)
Yes it does. Like three times a week!

Gina (41:38.114)
Yes!

Kelli (41:42.891)
that's funny. Yeah, I always call myself a fantasy football widow. And I love football. I'm a Buffalo Bills fan. have been, you know, since I'm, I don't even know. I was a teenager. But Eric is in like three fantasy football leagues. So Sundays during football season, not only just Sundays anymore, Thursday night, Monday night, Sundays.

Sometimes Saturday, you I think they throw in a Tuesday night game now, but whatever he cooks He cooks when he watches football so I don't complain

Gina (42:18.072)
can't complain about that and you know what he's home he's not out drinking at a bar that's what I said to my don't you get me no I don't get maybe watching professional wrestling because he's in my living room yep

Kelli (42:19.885)
Yep. He's home. No, he's not.

Kelli (42:29.677)
Yep, yep. some of the storylines on WWE were better than Real Housewives.

Gina (42:32.898)
Just fine with me.

Yeah, it was a soap opera. It was General Hospital with tights.

Kelli (42:42.187)
Exactly. are you watching the McBees?

Gina (42:50.717)
yes. Love that show.

Kelli (42:52.633)
Did you watch them before they came on Bravo?

Gina (42:55.894)
Yeah, I watched Steve McBee was on Joe Millionaire. I knew him before the show. I think it was called Joe Millionaire or something about a millionaire had two guys on it. And one of them was a millionaire. And it was a dating show. And then at the end, they he picked Cala. That's where Cala came from. The girlfriend on the show. She came from that show. But hush hush.

Kelli (43:01.592)
Kelli (43:19.314)
Gina (43:24.065)
They're not dating anymore. He's dating a country singer. It's just it came up on my TikTok feed, this country singer with him, Lovey Kissy. But he said he was single the other night on Watch What Happens Live, but she was posting videos as of two weeks ago.

Kelli (43:27.545)
Really?

Kelli (43:43.289)
So I haven't watched it yet, but I'm watching comments on social media. Uh-uh. Nope. I know you and Wendy, because you, in our group chat, you mentioned it and Wendy said she had watched the first season, I think. But I'm following, on social media, people are like disappointed that now they're on Bravo because they think it's gonna change because these people are gonna, you know, start getting egos.

Gina (43:47.689)
You've never seen it? You didn't watch it last year? my.

Gina (43:59.253)
Yeah, it's good.

Kelli (44:13.313)
which it sounds like if this guy's dating a country singer now. Exactly.

Gina (44:14.603)
Well, it's already happened. It already happened because he was on that reality show. He got his fame from there. And then they did this show. And guess what? Just like Teresa and Joe, got the father got arrested. But after season one, he got arrested for insurance fraud. You know how farmers could say get money, they lost crops or whatever?

Kelli (44:38.403)
No way.

Yeah!

Gina (44:43.379)
He got involved in something like that.

Kelli (44:46.018)
shit.

Gina (44:50.166)
So that's why you're not seeing... Don't go on reality TV if you've done shit. Because that's why you're not seeing the father this year. Last year you saw the father and his girlfriend. The father's a real hound dog. And he's got all these girlfriends and they showed the first season moving a new girlfriend into his house or something.

Kelli (44:51.545)
This is what happens when you go on reality TV people. All your secrets come out.

That's what saying.

Interesting.

Kelli (45:16.057)
So he's divorced, obviously, from the mother?

Gina (45:17.544)
He's divorced, yeah. But the girl that he was living with is the girl that broke up his marriage.

Gina (45:26.454)
Yeah, he's into Russian girls. And then he was living with this chick and he started sleeping with her best friend. you got to watch it. It's it's always. not that cool.

Kelli (45:36.559)
Where's the Henry Hill?

Kelli (45:42.509)
No, the guy's not!

Gina (45:44.18)
I don't think any of them are. I think Jesse is good-looking. The one son.

Kelli (45:50.991)
I haven't seen it. I don't know who any of these people are. Now I gotta look into it.

Gina (45:54.88)
There's three, four sons, one of them's not really on much, and the father. And now the father's not on a lot, but the mother is making appearances. Who's divorced from the father. yeah, it's worth checking out.

Kelli (46:08.611)
Okay.

Kelli (46:12.515)
Yeah, I'll definitely check it out.

Gina (46:14.132)
Yeah. Check out Jessie.

Kelli (46:16.303)
All right, well, I'm good on Miami. I did not watch the after show if there even is one, so I don't know anything after the episode. I'm just not a huge fan of Stephanie. I think she's a big flex. She just likes to flex and I'm not into it, but we'll see.

Gina (46:21.878)
I didn't see it, yeah, I didn't either.

Gina (46:33.333)
We'll see. It'll be fun to watch.

Kelli (46:36.301)
Yep. Well, thank you, Gina, for being here.

Gina (46:39.273)
Thank you. Good night, everyone.

Kelli (46:41.401)
Good night.