Mike Is HOT!β π₯ RHOA S17 E4 Breakdown + McBee Fallout
Send us Fan Mail Mike Is HOT!β π₯ RHOA S17 E4 Breakdown + McBee Fallout $5 Million Secrets & Friendship Fallout π³ RHOA S17 E4 π― SUMMARY Wendy and Kelli kick off the episode diving into shocking drama surrounding McBee Dynasty, where Steven McBee Jr.βs explosive leaked texts and failed apology spark a candid conversation about accountability, emotional control, and public relationships. The hosts unpack the controversy, calling out toxic behavior while also acknowledging the pressures...
Mike Is HOT!β π₯ RHOA S17 E4 Breakdown + McBee Fallout
$5 Million Secrets & Friendship Fallout π³ RHOA S17 E4
π― SUMMARY
Wendy and Kelli kick off the episode diving into shocking drama surrounding McBee Dynasty, where Steven McBee Jr.βs explosive leaked texts and failed apology spark a candid conversation about accountability, emotional control, and public relationships. The hosts unpack the controversy, calling out toxic behavior while also acknowledging the pressures of reality TV and personal stress.
Episode 4 centers on financial stress, relationship tensions, and messy miscommunication among the group.
At the heart of the episode is Pinky Cole, who opens up about serious financial struggles, including considering bankruptcy despite her success with Slutty Vegan. While she insists on handling it independently, her husband offers to cover her $5 million debtβhighlighting tension between pride and partnership.
Meanwhile, Porsha Williams navigates life post-divorce, including selling her home with major equity and confronting relationship expectations with a new partner who wants childrenβpotentially a dealbreaker.
The group drama heats up when Phaedra Parks is accused of spreading rumors that Pinky isnβt truly vegan. Miscommunication escalates into accusations of lying, dragging in past tensions with Shamea.
On the business side, Angela pushes forward with her new product launch, creating friction when she pressures Charles to invest publicly.
The episode builds toward Pinkyβs charity event, where financial rumors, friendship fractures, and shady comments collideβwhile notably, Drew is absent.
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Kelli (00:01.346)
Hi, welcome to We Why Whenever, I'm Kelly.
Wendy (00:04.398)
I'm Wendy.
Kelli (00:06.35)
So tonight we're going to talk about Real Housewives of Atlanta season 17 episode four, Where's the Beef and the Budget. But before that, we're going to talk a little bit about what's going on with McBee dynasty. I'll do our call of action. We appreciate everyone subscribing to YouTube, following us on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. We appreciate it. Please tell your friends, share the podcast.
our clips, whatever you could do. And we appreciate it. Thank you so much. So, cousin Gina, we love, sent us a clip. I have to put my reading glasses on. Steven McB Jr. Well, first we saw him on Facebook. I saw it, we saw it on Facebook, but you may have seen it on other outlets today. He kind of issued an apology. So we were like, what is this all about?
Wendy (00:39.409)
Thank you.
Wendy (00:44.465)
cousin Gina.
Wendy (00:50.321)
you
Wendy (01:02.587)
Yes.
Kelli (01:05.538)
Well, something happened over the weekend with him and his girlfriend, Allie, and she has now released text messages from Steven to her that do not make him look very good. So apparently he texts her initially, I've gotten two calls now and there's kind of stuff on the screen, so I have to like kind of read around it.
I've gotten two calls now and a DM. You're an effing slut. Embrace how much of a whore you are. Like just embrace it. That's who you are and who you've always been. It was my fault for trying to change a street corner whore into a good woman. It goes on. It gets worse.
Wendy (02:01.082)
Whoa.
Kelli (02:04.692)
It's, he's telling her to get on a plane and come pack her effing shit up. I mean, and you're still at the after party. Like, I don't like to say this because it's taking the Lord's name in vain, but goddamn girl, you're embracing your sluttiness, aren't you? Own it. Good work. I mean, the texts go on and on and they are horrible. I can't believe.
Public I can't believe anybody would talk to anybody like this, but I'm not naive and know what happens But I can't believe someone a public figure like him Who's trying to push a show? Would put something like that and right it's bad enough if you say it verbally you just put it in writing for the whole world to see now
Wendy (02:57.145)
Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. So the first thing that cousin Gina sent us this morning was him apologizing for him showing his text messages. So.
Kelli (03:07.763)
I didn't see, I didn't realize that that's what he was apologizing for. well, Steven.
Wendy (03:12.433)
Yes. He was apologizing for showing his text messages and I hadn't really seen the text messages, but I did see like if you went a little bit further, it was about that, that he had to leave because he works a real job and he left her there, which he didn't want to do. And then she wound up going to these after parties. And then he kept getting videos of her grinding on some men and her
out there partying and he felt like she was cheating on him and he did say in that video he said you know she's out there being a horrible person. He said that. He said that. He said that on the video this morning that we got in his apology for putting the text messages out there.
Kelli (03:54.916)
come on. How old are you?
Wendy (04:05.809)
that he's really sorry that he shouldn't have done this in this public, shouldn't have sent these text messages out there. I don't know if he meant he shouldn't have sent them out there or he shouldn't have published them. Like he wasn't really clear on that.
Kelli (04:18.146)
Maybe you shouldn't have written them in the first place.
Wendy (04:20.623)
Well, that's it. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. Listen, I'm not sticking up for him. I do like the guy. I do know he's under a lot of pressure and a lot of stress. His father's in jail. He is the man of the family. He's the one running the show over there. He's got a big farm to run. He's got two younger brothers. They both have wives and babies and another baby on the way.
Kelli (04:47.758)
Three. Three younger brothers.
Wendy (04:50.425)
Yes, three younger brothers, exactly. Three younger brothers, exactly.
Kelli (04:53.026)
But you're right, too, with children and mouths to feed.
Wendy (04:56.247)
and one, right. And I know he's got a lot of pressure on him, but that does not excuse you to talk to anybody like that, let alone a woman that you are supposedly in love with. It's just not, it's not excusable. It is not excusable. His,
Kelli (05:17.866)
It's not excusable.
Wendy (05:19.533)
He also mentioned in that video that, you know, how, like, why would she do this a month before the show's about to air? So he's blaming her again for her staying out and partying. Like, if he didn't react to it, nothing would have happened. It would have all been on her. It was his reaction. And there's one thing I've learned in life. I mean, you know, I'm a lot older than he is. I've had a lot of life to live.
Kelli (05:40.32)
Right? Right.
Wendy (05:49.325)
And he will get there, because I think his father is there now that he's in prison. There's one thing that you can control in your life, and that is your reaction. You cannot control anybody else's actions in your life. You will not change anybody. Who they are is who they are. Your only form of control is how you react to that person and what boundaries you set with that person and how you let that person affect you.
Kelli (05:53.996)
huh.
Wendy (06:19.481)
And I will tell you this, Steven Jr. You screwed that up. You screwed it up. Screwed it up.
Kelli (06:24.099)
Thank
I mean, this is bad. This is really bad.
Wendy (06:28.529)
You screwed it up.
Wendy (06:32.377)
It's bad. mean, honestly, I don't want...
Kelli (06:33.186)
And like you, I like him and I like the show and I love his family, but I don't know.
Wendy (06:42.479)
I don't want you to be canceled for a mistake, Stephen. I don't want you to be canceled. But I want you to really reflect. And I really would like for you, it's so weird that I'm giving you this advice, because I'm giving it to everybody nowadays. You need a therapist. You need a therapist. You may have one. You need to get some extra appointments in if you have one that you're happy with. But if you don't have one that you're happy with, you need to get yourself a therapist.
Because you've got a lot of anger issues, I understand, I get it, you've got a lot on your plate, that's not an excuse. You are a man. You need to act like a man, and your mother would not be proud. You've got a good mom. Yep.
Kelli (07:23.906)
That's who I thought of initially. And listen, this isn't fair because I always get annoyed, even locally. When somebody puts on Facebook, these kids were doing this and people are like, nice parenting. And I'm always like, listen, you can't always blame the parents. Do you think those parents are proud that their kids were out there doing that?
Wendy (07:42.746)
Right.
Wendy (07:47.653)
No!
Kelli (07:52.663)
This does lead me to think that possibly this is how his father spoke to his mother though. Or this is how his father spoke to somebody. But I don't wanna put blame, like I really don't like blaming the parents. Yes, some parents are negligent and not setting the best examples, but it's not my go-to to blame parents for their kids' behavior. Because I don't wanna get blamed for my kids' behavior.
Wendy (08:16.921)
No, and again, was... No, no, no, I wasn't blaming his parents. I was just saying that his mom is not happy. As a mom, I would not be happy. I was saying his mom's not happy. His mom is not happy. Yeah. I feel bad. I feel bad because I know her heart is broken. We as moms, all the moms out there can relate to this. We are only as happy as our happiest child, regardless of what is going on in our lives.
Kelli (08:27.342)
Totally, totally. And that's what I thought too. Like, no, she must be devastated over this.
Kelli (08:44.088)
That's it.
Wendy (08:46.649)
So when he's in this shit storm, she's in this shit storm. And my heart goes out to his mom. It does. It really does. And he can make it right. This is not, it's not lost. Steven, you can turn this around. You can turn this around. Maybe what you do right now is just lay low. Do not post anything. Do not react. Maybe take all social media off your phone. Focus on work.
Kelli (08:51.0)
That's right.
Yes, absolutely.
Kelli (09:02.188)
Yeah.
Kelli (09:12.718)
That's right.
Wendy (09:14.597)
Focus on you, maybe hit the gym, get your head straight, hit your therapist and move on. And to Ali, the now ex-girlfriend, maybe you do the same actually, because Ali, you're not innocent in this either. You played a part in this. And I'm not victim blaming, I'm not doing that, but it takes two to tangle, right? He was not a part of this by himself. There was actions.
Kelli (09:30.573)
Right, I mean...
Kelli (09:40.729)
Well, something set him off and something, whatever was sent to him couldn't have been good. I mean, we saw some of it, but again, if you're in a committed relationship, you're probably not, you know, Dan, I don't know, you're right. I don't want to victim blame. I don't want to get myself in trouble.
Wendy (10:01.711)
Right, no, no, listen, right, we don't want a victim blame, we don't. But grinding on somebody else, didn't see it, but I think that's what was going on, because that's what he alluded to, and there is a grainy video, I, you know, I can't be sure of it. Listen, I'm not saying I'm innocent either in life, like I've done some things I've not been proud of, but thank God there wasn't a phone back then that could take a video of it, and there wasn't social media that it could be blasted on, because I would probably-
Kelli (10:12.15)
Right, right, right.
Wendy (10:31.169)
be in the same position that he or she is in right now. I'm not saying that that didn't happen, right?
Kelli (10:36.12)
Absolutely. Absolutely. And listen, I dance with guys when I go out. I'm a married woman and I come home and I tell my husband about it. I'm not grinding on him though. He wouldn't like that.
Wendy (10:40.379)
Right?
Wendy (10:46.075)
There you go.
Wendy (10:52.697)
No, you would not like that.
Kelli (10:52.834)
The going out dancing wouldn't be happening anymore.
Wendy (10:56.411)
the
Kelli (10:57.55)
But sometimes you just want to dance with somebody and there's somebody there and there's a guy, you know?
Wendy (11:02.128)
Right, listen.
We're human. That's all I want to say is that we are human.
Kelli (11:08.418)
Yeah, it's not, listen, the text, didn't, did he, so what did he post? He posted, he didn't post those text messages. He must have posted from her to him?
Wendy (11:21.115)
So.
Wendy (11:24.539)
So, let me see, I'm gonna see if I can.
Kelli (11:28.96)
And Stephen, what did you expect? If you posted text messages, how did you think she wasn't going to?
Wendy (11:36.529)
Well that's it. Like that's just it.
Kelli (11:39.21)
Or is he, was he, I don't know. Yeah, I don't understand. I don't understand exactly what happened, but.
Wendy (11:47.609)
Okay, here, hold on.
Wendy (11:54.543)
can't hear this, can you?
Wendy (12:03.041)
get it so you can hear it. wait maybe hold on.
Kelli (12:07.768)
Put on TV.
Wendy (12:11.365)
My TV's on, hold on. Listen, I am not the most... Let me put the volume on. Technology is not my thing, okay? I am Gen X.
Kelli (12:21.858)
Yeah, we're a in progress.
Wendy (12:24.783)
the volumes up. Let me put it on my iPad. Hold on. Let's try this.
Kelli (12:34.053)
your phone's up behind you.
Wendy (12:36.559)
Yeah, because I had it up behind me, but it wasn't coming through. And I don't know if it's not coming through because I have this in my ear.
Kelli (12:41.695)
it's probably going through your headphones. That's why we can't hear it. all right.
Wendy (12:44.227)
Yeah, but it's not because I can't. Yeah, so hold on. Let me try it on. Let me try it on here because this is right next to it.
Wendy (13:37.723)
wake up to that and give it where I was.
Wendy (13:42.577)
page country.
Wendy (13:47.569)
because she's a really good person. I'm still mind blown over it candidly. She's really been such a happy-go-lucky, like such a supportive person and I'm not an easy person to date. I know that. I am extreme type A. I have mood swings. I'm extremely stressed out given everything that's going on. And so it is a high tension environment to date me and I know that and she's handled it well. She's been very low key and very supportive in me or for me in that regard. So
I wish I didn't post it on social media, but I guess being on reality TV, it's all all gonna air out anyways, and I still don't know Exactly what happened I just know that There was hand-holding grinding dancing Drunken stupor at an after-party and I have real responsibilities. So I had to get out of there yesterday I was nervous to leave early candidly because
I don't know. Whenever you're dating someone who plans their entire life around what festival, what concert, what event, what after party they can go to...
The writing should have been on the wall for me that you don't have a housewife. You have a horrible person to date and try to marry and try to turn into a settled down woman. For me, I absolutely hate festivals. I hate traveling. I love my family. I love my farm. I love my structure. I love waking up early, working out. I love driving around in the evenings on gravel roads. I love my life. And I was never going to be able to change someone whose entire life was planned around.
Kelli (15:01.742)
HUUUU
Wendy (15:22.917)
What trip they could go on, what event, what festival, what concert, what after party they could hit. And I should have known that. And it doesn't make her a bad person. just, I mean, certainly made a mistake last night, especially after yesterday we were talking about the big year we were going to have. The show is like a month away from airing. Like, come on. Not even for our relationship. Talk about just.
damaging your own reputation based on your own idiot decisions, but Yeah, I'm good guys. I appreciate all the love and support again. I wish I wouldn't have posted this on social media equanimity I need Need more equanimity But I've got a damn good dog. I picked him up from boarding today. It's got a damn good dog
Kelli (16:03.021)
Okay.
Kelli (16:07.245)
Okay, listen.
Kelli (16:11.052)
He apologized and then he went on that rant. What he said after that apology nullifies the apology. You just said, I shouldn't have put this on social media, I shouldn't have done this. And then you basically call her a whore and say you tried to turn her into a housewife. You never wanted a housewife. Steve McBee wants, this is the type of girl he wants to date. This is the type of girl. He was on Joe Millionaire.
If you all of a sudden want a housewife, yes, yes, you should have known that Allie probably wasn't the one because she is an influencer, she is making her own money, she wants to go to festivals. There's nothing wrong with that. Oh, he's, he buried himself with that audio, buried. And then those text messages, oh, he's done for.
Wendy (17:04.689)
So this is the word he used and I was like, what does this word mean? Equanimity. Equanimity is a state of psychological stability, composure, and even mindedness that remains undisturbed by emotion, pain, or challenging circumstances derived from the Latin equinos animus represents a balanced mind. Yes.
He does not have equanimity. He's absolutely correct. I'd never heard that word before. The word of the day is equanimity. Equanimity, and he does not have it.
Kelli (17:37.058)
I never heard of it either and he does not have it.
I mean, he went on to bash her even more.
Wendy (17:45.615)
Yeah.
Kelli (17:46.69)
That's horrible.
Wendy (17:48.623)
Yeah. So that's the whole McBee dynasty saga so far. So we'll have to wait and see what happens. We're gonna watch it. I mean, I do love the show. I love his brothers. I love...
Kelli (17:57.048)
so far.
Kelli (18:02.53)
We're all gonna definitely watch it now.
Wendy (18:05.753)
Yes, we are. We are. I want to see what's happening with his dad in jail. I want to see what's going on with his mom. I want to see what's going on with Galina, who's a crazy Russian mistress slash CFOs. Yeah, I want to see those babies. want to see, listen, I want to see it all.
Kelli (18:18.638)
I wanna see those babies.
Kelli (18:28.322)
This guy wanted to be a reality TV star, Stephen McB Jr. This is what he wanted.
He didn't know his father was gonna go to jail and he was gonna be running the farm.
Wendy (18:41.423)
He didn't. He did not. He did not.
Kelli (18:42.434)
But surprise!
If that girl traded in her Instagram and said, okay, I'll become a housewife, he wouldn't be happy with that either. He's a narcissist, that guy.
Wendy (18:59.601)
We're going to have to wait and see what happens. All right, let's go on to Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Kelli (19:01.55)
Yeah.
All right, let's get on to Atlanta. Let's do it. We're at Slutty Vegan and Pinky is planning a community event, part of the Pinky Cole Foundation. It's a nonprofit organization that raises money for the community. That's, listen, given what she's going through financially right now, the fact that she's even thinking about other people. And I love, especially a new housewife coming on the scene, when they use this platform to help others,
Wendy (19:19.227)
I love this.
Kelli (19:33.738)
in need in their community, this is what you should be doing in that position. this is an amazing thing she's putting together.
Wendy (19:43.875)
Not only do I love that, I love that she gave specific things for each of her housewives to bring. I love that because, I mean, in the past, what has happened? It's been wishy washy, this one shows up with this. She said, you are bringing this for this amount of people. That's the way to do it. That is the way to organize an event.
Kelli (19:51.402)
I do too.
Kelli (20:01.484)
Yep. Yep.
Kelli (20:07.116)
Yep, absolutely. So she says that when she started SlettyVeg and she decided that women should start calling each other sluts. I have been called worse, so I'm okay with this. As long as it's a female calling another one and they're okay with it.
Wendy (20:20.657)
I.
Wendy (20:24.089)
I'll be honest with you, I don't like it. I do not like you, Colt. I don't like it. don't. That's just me. find it offensive. I get it. A lot of them don't find it. Some of them do though. I'm not the only one who finds it offensive. I find it offensive.
Kelli (20:26.946)
You don't like it. Alright, I mean...
Kelli (20:40.974)
If you know you're not one, it's probably not, you I know, that's what saying.
Wendy (20:44.123)
Well I know I'm not. I mean I know I'm not!
I mean, I know I'm not a horse. I don't want to be called a horse either. You know I'm saying?
Kelli (20:56.95)
is a very good point. She did, like Wendy said, she invited the girls via text and assigned the women certain items to bring. And she asked Phaedra to bring baby wipes and formula because she's always got a lot of shit going on. That was amazing. So Kelly shows up, right? And then Pinky tells her that she's thinking about filing for bankruptcy and Kelly's like, me too.
Wendy (20:57.777)
I don't want to be called a slut.
Wendy (21:12.305)
Hahaha!
Wendy (21:26.545)
Right? I was like, okay. Maybe they can get like a group rate. Right.
Kelli (21:29.398)
And basically for the same situation because Kelly was the personal guarantor for her business as well. And she said Abraham Lincoln filed for bankruptcy three times, so just call me Kelly Lincoln.
Wendy (21:42.033)
I did not know that. Did we check that and see if that actually is fact or she's just making that shit up?
Kelli (21:45.487)
feel like we need to fact check that. Was bankruptcy even a thing then? We're gonna fact check it unless somebody wants to do it for us. So this is, can't believe that this is a storyline. I can't believe it. Peky tells Kelly that Phaedra said she eats meat.
Wendy (21:49.047)
I feel like we do too. I feel like we do too. I feel like we do too. Okay.
Wendy (22:14.929)
No, I know I totally agree.
Kelli (22:15.458)
This is what we're gonna talk about!
And then they flash back to Kelly saying she saw her eat a steak.
Wendy (22:27.215)
Not for nothing. When you're in the Sleddy Vegan restaurant, you see all the food that they're producing. It looks like meat. We don't know it's not. It looks like it. It looks like meat.
Kelli (22:35.598)
And here's the thing, like, you know, we'll get to it, but somebody's like, she had a Jamaican restaurant or whatever. just because she's a vegan now doesn't mean she was always a vegan.
I don't know, and just because you own a vegan restaurant, means you have to be vegan? Can't you just own a vegan restaurant? But she is.
Wendy (22:51.344)
Okay.
Wendy (22:55.985)
Well she is though. I mean, no, she is and she's a proud vegan and she's a member of PETA. She's been a vegan since 2007. She's been a vegan since 2007 and Abraham Lincoln did file for bankruptcy in the 1830s following the failure of his general store in New Salem, Illinois after his business partner died. So I don't know that he's done it more than once, but I know that he's done it.
Kelli (23:02.971)
that's right, that's right. She's got the other stuff going on. Yeah, yeah,
Wendy (23:25.633)
I'll give her that. I'll give her that. So there was a bankruptcy file by Abraham Lincoln.
Kelli (23:25.838)
I love Kelly. I really do. love Kelly. She throws out some wild facts. So when they check out, that's amazing.
Wendy (23:35.035)
There you go.
Kelli (23:39.222)
yeah, I mean, this whole meat thing, it's like, what, what are we doing?
Wendy (23:44.037)
Who cares?
I know, I know, it's so true. What are we doing?
Kelli (23:51.279)
are we doing? And then this was another weird scene. So now we're at Shamiah's. She's trying dresses on because she tells us that Cynthia's hosting a girl's trip to Texas because she's partnering with the Maloof family. That's right. Adrian Maloof, the Maloof Hoof. And they are gonna go into a tequila business together. So Gerald is there and
He looks so uncomfortable filming. I mean, I think our husbands would be more comfortable filming than Gerald, and our husbands would never film. This guy does not want to be on camera. Shemeah, stop putting your husband on camera. And I like him. I like Gerald very much, but he wants nothing to do with these women. And then...
Wendy (24:31.377)
I don't know about that, maybe. No.
Wendy (24:45.36)
I do too.
Kelli (24:50.54)
that he brings up documents and we hear that they canceled their last surrogate because she had one failed transfer. So they're gonna go in a different direction. They really want a boy. They have one last male embryo. So they really just don't want a chance at failing again.
Wendy (25:09.691)
Which I get, I totally get.
Kelli (25:11.008)
I get that. do get that. I mean, she says like we're going to try it, but, know, we might need to go in another direction, like adoption or something like that.
Then we go to Portia's house and she's packing up and Mike comes over. Listen, I only go one way and know, Sway is an attractive woman, but I'm sorry if Mike and Sway, Mike is so hot.
Wendy (25:37.903)
Mike is hot.
Mike is hot. There's just like Mike is hot. Mike is hot. Mike is hot.
Kelli (25:44.074)
Mike, so hot, yes. I mean, at this point, she's still dating both of them, but I mean, Sway must have some swag. She must be swaggy Sway because...
Wendy (25:56.805)
You know what though? I think it's, I don't think that's it. I think it's cause Mike wants kids and Portia's not sure if she wants kids. Cause that does come up and I don't think Sway gives a shit. Yeah. I don't think Sway, I don't know, but my guess is Sway doesn't give a shit about kids. I mean, cause I agree with you. Mike is hot. Mike is hot. Mike is hot. I'm just going to say it again. Mike is hot. Mike is hot. Maybe I'll name that this episode. Mike's hot.
Kelli (26:04.696)
He wants three kids.
Kelli (26:11.318)
Right, right.
my god
Kelli (26:20.876)
Yeah, we wouldn't leave the house. We wouldn't leave the house. That's definitely the name of this episode and we wouldn't leave the house. I'm just saying, yeah. And Mike's going to Texas with her. So that's great news for us because we get to see more of Mike.
Wendy (26:29.329)
Mike is hot.
Yeah.
Wendy (26:40.645)
Yes, exactly, exactly. I wonder why we lose Mike, because I'm going to be sad when he goes.
Kelli (26:46.338)
I'm gonna be real sad. Hopefully it's at the end. Hopefully it's at the end.
Wendy (26:48.293)
You know what? Maybe our friends on Everybody Just Calm Down podcast, maybe they can let us know where Mike is now. Because I know they know what's going on in the Atlanta scene. Like, no, no, we are married women. But maybe they can just let us know what is going on with Mike and where he's at now, because Mike is hot. OK, that's where we'll leave that.
Kelli (26:55.106)
Mmm.
Yeah. And give us his phone number.
I know.
Kelli (27:11.714)
Yeah, it get as hot. I'm just gonna get a t-shirt made up. So, Portia goes on to say she's selling her mom's house and people are asking her why she's doing it, why she's trying to keep the house she's in. And she says she bought the first house in Duluth after her first divorce from Cornell? Cordell. Yeah.
Wendy (27:23.185)
Mmm.
Wendy (27:35.697)
Cordell, Cordell, 2017.
Kelli (27:40.585)
And you know, it was a big moment for her. It was her independence. But at this point, the house has a million dollars worth of equity in it. And she wants to cash that out. And I don't blame her. I mean, I understand it's the house she brought Pilar home to, and it's the house her mom actually lives in. But the house she's in now is big enough where her mother could be living there and she wouldn't even know. Like let your mom move in with you.
Wendy (27:48.815)
Yes. I don't blame her. I don't either.
Wendy (28:03.685)
Yes, I agree.
Kelli (28:08.366)
And then yeah, so then they go on to have the conversation that she's done more than him. She's been divorced. She said she's been divorced two times, three, I thought she said three times, but it's only two times, right? Yeah.
Wendy (28:20.401)
No, two times. She's had two, I've had two marriages and one fiance. And she's 44. I don't know how old Mike is. Honestly, I don't even care. Make us hot.
Kelli (28:25.601)
Right.
Kelli (28:29.652)
He must be... No, no, but no, we don't care. We don't care.
Kelli (28:36.728)
Hit us up, Mike.
Wendy (28:37.745)
Yeah. And he says it like, yeah, my God, Mike, can we go dancing?
Kelli (28:40.364)
Let's just go dancing. Let's just go dance.
Ha ha ha. So, yeah. And he wants three kids, so if she's 44, not that age should matter, but that's a lot. That's a lot of pressure.
Wendy (28:53.777)
Mm-hmm.
Wendy (28:59.611)
That's hard. Those are, at 44, any pregnancy she's gonna have is gonna be a geriatric pregnancy, it's gonna be high risk. And listen, it may not be smart. It just may not be smart.
Kelli (29:01.429)
yeah.
Kelli (29:13.226)
It may not be smart, yeah. That's a crazy term for them to use. Right.
Wendy (29:14.991)
And there's other way to have children. I know, it is. Yeah, it is, I totally agree. All of my pregnancies were considered geriatric. My son reminds me of it every single day.
Kelli (29:25.738)
How old are you? Well, no, you don't have to say that.
Wendy (29:27.441)
35, I'm gonna tell you, I don't care, 35.
Kelli (29:30.184)
That was considered geriatric?
Wendy (29:32.977)
35, 37, 39. My children I had at 35, 37, 39. At 35, you're considered geriatric, which is considered high risk. So at 44, are, you are ger-geriatric. I don't know what you'd call that, but that's it. No.
Kelli (29:46.062)
Very geriatric.
Kelli (29:53.369)
You're one foot in the grave. No, no, God forbid, that's not, no. All right, so Kay Michelle is getting her makeup done and then, so who was it? It was her assistant and her makeup artist, right? She was sitting with him. She said she's never gone on a girls trip. You know, it is, it sounds so surprising, but I don't know if, like I've gone away for the night.
Wendy (30:08.687)
Yes, yes, yes. And she's never taken a girl's trip.
Kelli (30:19.8)
But I've never gone on a long trip, I don't think, with just the girls. I don't think I have. So we gotta do that.
Wendy (30:25.905)
Well, I mean, I've done, yeah, we have to do that. I mean, you and I have gone away for one night, right? No, have we done two? No, because you wouldn't do two. I know, I know. You don't like to go.
Kelli (30:33.004)
Yeah, I don't think so. You know I don't like to go places. I don't like to go places. really, I am my mother all over, we are home bodies. It's horrible.
Wendy (30:43.951)
Yeah, you don't like to go. I'm always like, we're doing one night, we might as well do two. That's me. That's how I roll. But I have done some girls trips for a couple nights, but not with you girls. Like we need to go. We need to go to Rhode Island. We need to go to Georgia to freaking hang out with Hot Mike. I mean, we need to make some, yeah, we need to go to Charleston and just do the Charleston thing.
Kelli (30:48.438)
Right. Right.
Kelli (30:57.676)
Yeah, Rhode Island.
Kelli (31:03.638)
Yeah, but like for real.
Kelli (31:08.878)
I know that's what I was thinking maybe he'll meet us at Lake Republic.
Wendy (31:12.269)
Mike, that would be great. That would be great. That would be a fun time. We'd kill a lot of birds with one stone if Mike would meet us at Republic.
Kelli (31:15.319)
I know.
Yeah, we're gonna, we could. We're good planners, Mike. We're good planners. So she tells her glam and assistant that she met with Portia and she apologized, but she's not sure about going away with these women. She says, I'm gonna keep one eye on Portia.
Wendy (31:26.021)
Yeah. Okay.
Wendy (31:41.349)
That's a good plan.
Kelli (31:42.965)
It's a very good plan, Kay Michelle. Portia, Phaedra, and Angela go to spin. Now, this is what I don't wanna say, because we know how Portia and Phaedra are. I don't wanna see them suck Angela in like Tamra did Emily Simpson. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I think Angela's too smart for this, but I see, I thought Emily was too smart too.
Wendy (31:46.107)
Yeah.
Wendy (32:02.5)
hear you.
Angela's way too smart. No, but what about when Charles is dropping off Angela at the gym and then introduces Charles to Phaedra and then we go back to the reunion where Phaedra says she knows Charles because they've been in the same room together and Charles says, I've never been introduced to you. I was here for that. Right?
Kelli (32:29.164)
Right. Yes. Yes. That don't mean you know me. Because we were in the same room.
Wendy (32:33.233)
That's right. That's right. I do too. I do too.
Kelli (32:35.896)
Love, Charles.
I really, really do. Angela has her fam with her and Phaedra says she doesn't want anyone in fitness because she doesn't want them to be too fine, only a little fine. And they flash back to Apollo and Kenya and he's showing her the, what they call it? The donkey walk. Whatever that crazy walk was.
Wendy (32:52.891)
Shil-
Wendy (33:00.837)
The- the Donkey Booty? The Donkey Booty?
Wendy (33:07.345)
Who's the da-
Kelli (33:08.684)
So Angela does say in her confessional, like, I haven't forgotten what happened last year. Like, it's still on the forefront of my mind. So she's, she's paying attention.
Wendy (33:21.083)
No, she is.
Kelli (33:22.56)
And then after that crazy spin, I was watching the spin class. I was exhausted just watching it. Portia says that she met with Kay Michelle and she told Portia.
But she met with Kay Michelle. Portia says she met with Kay Michelle and she told Portia that Pinkie...
Kelli (33:48.512)
said that Phaedra said, yeah, that she eats meat. Again, with this stupid meat eating thing. It's like the dumbest shit.
Wendy (33:48.529)
had a problem with Phaedra. Right.
Right, Phaedra's like, I've known her for 15 years. She's like, I've known her for 15 years. And Phaedra's going around telling everyone that Pinky eats meat. they go back to the scene where Shemeah and Phaedra are on the phone. And Phaedra says, before Pinky showed up with her slutty vegan, she had a really good Jamaican restaurant. And there was meat.
Phaedra did not say, she did not say that Pinkie eats meat. She didn't.
Kelli (34:31.246)
When they were in the hot tub, she did though. They showed that scene, but they also showed a scene of them in the hot tub, right? And I think that's where Phaedra said she eats meat.
Wendy (34:35.117)
Okay. Right.
Kelli (34:46.37)
So Phaedra says, Piki's got bigger problems.
Wendy (34:46.417)
Well, according to Pinky, that's true.
Kelli (34:51.254)
And then she brings up the fact that she has to buy $4,000 worth of formula because it's vegan formula. mean, Pinky, well played. Well played, Pinky.
Wendy (35:00.529)
Exactly.
Kelli (35:06.478)
And Portia's like, I have to bring backpacks, but then I gotta put toys in the backpack. So I gotta go get toys and put this in there. I don't know, that was funny. So then Angela shows up at her fangy meeting and Charles comes in and you know, when they were talking about how many fans she had to sell, so they need 50 grand.
Wendy (35:12.305)
Ha ha ha ha.
Wendy (35:24.507)
Yes, she does.
Kelli (35:35.394)
to get this going. And Charles is like, okay. So, but then I thought they said that she could sell 50 fans or something and make the money back. Okay, okay.
Wendy (35:44.281)
No, she said 4,000. She said 4,000 fans. And she'll do that in her first rollout. But it's so funny because every time I see that name, Fangy, and I see Angela with the Fangy, my son and I, it's like a RuPaul drag race thing. There is this thing like Fangy, Fangy. It's like this whole RuPaul drag race thing about Fangy. And that's all I can think of.
every time I see Angela talking about her fangy. So Angela, go meet up with RuPaul and get your fangy on RuPaul's Drag Race because you will sell out, girl. You will sell out because that is a thing. It's a thing. It's a thing.
Kelli (36:13.786)
that's hysterical.
Kelli (36:23.692)
Mmm.
Kelli (36:30.626)
Yes.
Kelli (36:36.022)
I agree, I thought you were gonna say she needs to change the name, but no, you're right, even better. Collaborate, yep, collaborate. Yeah, yeah, so listen, I will buy a Fangey, I will buy a Fangey, I will hang that shit around my neck, we know Danwell Lurie well, so you got three buyers right here. So now you only have to sell 3,997.
Wendy (36:39.885)
No! Keep the name! Collaborate. That is right. That's right. I thought it was funny when she... I will too. I will too.
Wendy (36:56.424)
yep. Yep.
There you go, and honestly, Maddie will get one too. But when she asked Charles to be her male model, and he's like, I don't know, and she's like, well, maybe just put it around your neck, and he's like, no, that's flavor flave. I was like, M-G.
Kelli (37:02.914)
There you go.
Kelli (37:12.279)
Yeah!
Kelli (37:17.298)
And he says it was such a straight face. Like, he's like, no, that's like the slave thing, even though that's a clock, but we see where your head's at.
Wendy (37:19.581)
I love it. so love, I love him. I know, it's all right. He's wearing it on his neck.
Kelli (37:28.502)
Yeah. But honestly, she says, I know how to work that bank of Charles. She does. So all the haters can stop hating because they're fine. They're fine. Yep. So now we are at Pinky's event. She says her mom worked four jobs and her dad was sentenced to 30 years in prison. Did she say right after she was born?
Wendy (37:35.643)
She does.
Wendy (37:42.637)
for some fine.
Wendy (37:59.013)
When I was born, when I was born, my father was sentenced to 30 years in prison. Holy shit.
Kelli (38:04.514)
Yeah, I mean that's, yeah, that's, and her mother worked four jobs. Like she was, you know, brought into not desirable circumstances and look at what she built. I mean, God bless her.
Wendy (38:17.041)
And not for nothing, she mentioned on other episodes how she would talk to her dad in prison and he was so inspiring to her. He was never, he was the one cheering her on from prison. Her dad was, we don't know that. I'm sure we could look it up, but we do not know that. I just love that he was there cheering her on from prison and she took his words and she ran with him. I really like her. I really like Pinky. I do.
Kelli (38:30.902)
I wonder why he went away.
Kelli (38:43.276)
Yeah, for sure.
Wendy (38:46.809)
I like her. I do. And I love Kay Michelle too, to be quite honest with you.
Kelli (38:47.202)
Me too. Me too.
I do too. And did you watch, watch what happens live with Pinkie on it? She seems to be tight with Kay Michelle. Yeah. Yeah. She seems to be tight.
Wendy (38:56.579)
I did. Yes, they are tight. They are tight. And I don't, I don't know if you noticed this, but there was no drill on this whole episode.
Kelli (39:06.028)
No, there wasn't. Well, I don't know why we're seeing this so much.
Wendy (39:07.802)
No, Drew.
And honestly, I actually like Drew. I know she's shady AF, and I know she is not honest, maybe that's it. But I do like her. I don't know what it is I like about her, but I do like her. I like her.
Kelli (39:17.176)
think she just knows how to housewife.
Kelli (39:24.302)
I don't think we get the truth out of Drew a lot. And I don't think we ever did. I don't think we ever did. Since she came on the scene and Candy was still on, it's all smoke and mirrors. But I don't know. I love that scene with her in black though, because I thought that that was genuine, maybe, you I don't know. But Drew's sick and can't come to the event. Yeah.
Wendy (39:28.067)
No, we don't! No?
Wendy (39:46.193)
No, I like Drew. Right, she got a respiratory infection. Right. But we didn't even get her on a phone call. We didn't even get her in a background, which that's... She's not getting paid for this episode, Drew. You are not getting paid for this episode. You're not getting paid.
Kelli (39:53.526)
So we see Porsche goes to... No.
down.
Well, that's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. If there's a way they can cut these women out, they probably will to save a buck. Bravo.
Wendy (40:13.263)
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too.
Kelli (40:15.49)
By the way, side note, I started listening to Margaret Joseph's on Jeff Lewis, and she's talking about her Amazon show, and Jeff says, they're very generous, meaning money, and she said they are very generous. She's like, know, Bravo's great, and I love Bravo, and I'd love to work with Bravo again, but Amazon's very generous. They both said that. So, I know. Listen, I'm happy for her.
Wendy (40:20.549)
Okay.
Wendy (40:37.149)
she's doing okay with Amazon. Yeah, good for her. I would like an Amazon show. I think Wee Wine Whenever needs an Amazon show.
Kelli (40:45.096)
I think so too. That's our that's our next venture. Yeah.
Wendy (40:49.327)
I think we need to work on that. Can we work on that? I'm gonna put that into the universe. We Wine Whenever needs an Amazon show. We can do fashion, we can do beauty, we can do accessories. I mean, it's actually limitless what we can do, right?
Kelli (40:55.319)
Yes.
Kelli (41:06.004)
It is limitless. It is. Yeah, yeah, no, we'll definitely talk about that. I mean, we do know that. We do whine whenever. I'm whining right now. So Phaedra and Portia do not seem in a big rush to get to the event. They're eating and they are southern girls, Portia says, and they are gonna eat. And then Phaedra's son comes down.
Wendy (41:07.823)
Okay. Even wine. Actually, we can do wine and wine accessories, because we do wine whenever.
Kelli (41:33.495)
And when he said he was gonna go take a nap, Portia almost fell off that couch and they were so funny talking about when they were growing up, like you just had to look busy. you know, Fage was like, I'm going to school, I'm doing this for my mom, I'm throwing the food in the crock pot. Like my kids, I'm just gonna say it, they don't do shit.
Wendy (41:33.829)
Love him.
Wendy (42:01.143)
No, mine either. They do not look busy.
Kelli (42:02.626)
Test does her own laundry. Test does her own laundry.
Wendy (42:06.585)
No, when when Portia said you're going to be taking a nap in your black mama's house
Kelli (42:13.102)
They were so funny. Yeah.
Wendy (42:14.849)
I almost died. I almost died. You know how my kids do laundry? I get home from work and there's three laundry baskets sitting there for me to fold. And one or two of them will say, do you want me to bring it up to your room so you can fold it? And I'll say, no, I'm not folding it. I'm going in the, yeah, I'm going in the basement to do my podcast. You guys figure it out. I'm not folding your laundry. Stop. You are 18.
Kelli (42:34.19)
That's their contribution?
Kelli (42:43.598)
my God, I fold it and put it away. Not Tess's, Tess does her own. But Eric and I will come home from working all day and there'll be a whole damn sink full of dishes. And meanwhile, the dishwasher's empty. What are we doing?
Wendy (42:46.181)
No, you are 18.
Wendy (42:54.705)
Well that's, yeah.
Yeah, these kids today, are not, listen, am not the, listen, I'm not the best parent, I'm not. I say it every day. What did I do wrong with these kids? Because they are lazy AF. My kids are lazy AF. I don't like it.
Kelli (43:11.054)
But you know what? I was like that growing up. My mother didn't make us do anything. We didn't set the table. We didn't clear the table. We didn't do anything. We didn't do our own laundry. my mother did everything for us.
Wendy (43:17.777)
Oh, I had chores. No, I had chores. Oh, no, no, no. I had chores. had my, no, I had to, I had to clean my plate. I couldn't even leave the table unless I cleaned my plate. I had to eat everything on it, whether I liked it or not, which is why I do not eat vegetables today. Thank you, mom. But no, we had chores. I had chores. No.
Kelli (43:45.55)
Yeah, no, we didn't. We were spoiled.
Wendy (43:49.294)
I love every scene with Aiden though. I think that kid is adorable and he looks exactly like he did when he was five years old.
Kelli (43:54.991)
He really does. He's adorable. But I did love, like sometimes Portia and Phaedra drive me crazy, but this scene, they really were a fricking frack and I enjoyed it. They were very, very funny. So now we're really at Pinky's event and she's got a DJ and Derek's there, but then he leaves. And you could tell she's not loving that. And Kelly and Lamont show up.
Wendy (44:05.551)
I did too. I did too.
Wendy (44:12.271)
Yes.
Kelli (44:25.272)
Kay Michelle says to Kelly, understand why you didn't say anything at the tee about sleeping with a married man, because like she said, she got Kelly'd by Portia. And Portia completely ignored Kelly when she came into that event.
Wendy (44:35.151)
Yep.
Wendy (44:42.553)
And who was it that said, it Pinky that said Phaedra and Portia came in together? it was Pinky. In her confessionals, she said it was like Nicki Minaj and Cardi B. I was like, she was so right on that. It really was. And then Kelly snuck out. She snuck out. She's like, all right, I'm not feeling well. I'm going to leave.
Kelli (44:54.668)
Yes, she was. Yes, she was.
Kelli (45:01.916)
Yeah, she did the Irish goodbye and then in her confessional she says that Pinkie needs to name a burger the Horsha Burger. Yeah, so let's, yeah. You know, Angela said in her confessional that when she was growing up there were times they had to go to shelters. So she's here for this. And I think she said that her, like her first season, remember that?
Wendy (45:09.403)
Portia she said that
Kelli (45:28.568)
first scene of Angela's first season and she and Charles are in the kitchen and he's cooking and I think they, you know, they mentioned that or, you But Pinky tells them that she's filing for bankruptcy. And then she says, Phaedra says, I eat meat. Like, and we get right into it. I mean, I can't, again, I can't believe this is what we're talking about. And Phaedra can,
Wendy (45:52.464)
you
I know, I know.
Kelli (45:58.157)
completely throws Shemia under the bus, but then they roll the tape back and in fact she did tell Shemia that. I don't know why these women don't realize that this shit is on camera.
Wendy (46:12.047)
I know. I know, but what about when Phaedra said to Shemeah, like, you lied on my kids, and they show the scene where she's on a podcast, and they ask her who you'd pick to be the godmother of your children, Cynthia or Phaedra, and she says Cynthia because, you know, Noelle turned out to be an articulate, beautiful woman. And...
Cynthia's gonna make sure my babies are all right. She did not say anything negative about Phaedra. She just picked Cynthia.
Kelli (46:42.326)
Not at all. Not at all. That was a huge, huge reach. then Shemeah says, I don't dislike you to Phaedra's face. And then Phaedra says, I keep one eye open on Shemeah because she twists things back to the group. That's what you just did. You just twisted what she said. She didn't say anything about your kids. She just said that Cynthia is a great mother and she would take care of her girls.
Wendy (46:47.985)
Right.
Wendy (47:00.524)
Exactly.
Wendy (47:08.879)
Right, and not for nothing, I'd pick Cynthia too. And I love Phaedra. Listen, I love Phaedra. She's Phaedra has been my favorite since the day she came on, but you know what? I'd pick Cynthia too. I would.
Kelli (47:12.499)
yeah, she's good.
She's got, yeah.
Kelli (47:23.948)
She's got Lake Bailey.
Wendy (47:27.131)
Cynthia's got class.
Kelli (47:27.34)
I like when Pinky was like, Pinky's like, no, this is my event. You guys can figure this out in Texas. And Cynthia's like, no.
Wendy (47:34.753)
no, not Texas, not Texas. How about when the scene ends and Maury Povich comes on and says the lie detector said Pinky is a vegan. I almost died. I was like, Maury Povich?
Kelli (47:51.245)
I'm like, what am I watching? Because you know how sometimes they do like when Wicked was coming out, a couple of the Housewives filmed Wicked commercials. So in the middle of the Housewives show, you'd see them talking about Wicked. You're like, what's going on? I thought it was one of those moments.
Wendy (48:00.399)
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Wendy (48:09.449)
I was here for Maury Povich to find out that she worked for Maury Povich for three years.
Kelli (48:11.971)
But
Right, exactly, exactly. So now we're at Portia's house with her sister Lauren and the girls are there, you know, they're daughters and Dennis shows up.
Torrin, a set designer comes over because like everyone else, including us, Portia is starting a podcast again. She's gonna do a podcast with her sister because she, I guess she probably did that like over COVID or something. So they're gonna reboot that. And she's gonna do a podcast with Dennis about co-parenting. And then Pilar is gonna star like an unwrapping, I guess like YouTube thing. Yeah, good for her.
Wendy (48:58.949)
A YouTube channel, yeah.
Kelli (49:01.72)
So they need a set designer. And then Dennis starts asking Portia about the flowers and who she's dating. he says to her that she doesn't make good decisions with men. Well, that's really rich, Dennis.
Wendy (49:20.214)
That's what Portia said, she pointed that right out.
Kelli (49:23.338)
Yeah, mean, Haller. So I'm have to listen to their podcast though to hear their dynamic together. I actually do like them together and even Pinky said that on Watch What Happens Live, because she said she's known Dennis a long time and she likes Portia and Dennis together. I actually do too. But Mike is hot.
Wendy (49:43.441)
I do too. Mike is hot. But Dennis has a girlfriend. Portia said Dennis has a girlfriend. Right, and you know what I don't like? I do not like Dennis's gray beard. I like Dennis's short beard when there was no gray in it. And I don't know if it just gets gray when it gets longer. I don't know what's going on with that. Okay, I like the short beard with no gray.
Kelli (49:47.118)
I know and he lives with her
Kelli (49:57.699)
Yes, yes, that's right.
Kelli (50:04.45)
Yes, because that's what happens to Eric and I tell him trim it up. Tighten it up. Yes. Yes.
Wendy (50:11.365)
I like the short beer with no gray. The gray just ages you and you do not need that. You don't need that. Yeah.
Kelli (50:14.912)
It ages you and you look like Wolfman Jack.
Yeah. So, you know, Dennis feels a certain way about the flowers, blah, blah. Lawrence hiding the note, whatever. I think Portia sent those flowers to herself, but knowing that Dennis was gonna be coming over. No, yeah, I'm only kidding. I'm sure he did, yeah. So then we see Pinky and Derek go running.
Wendy (50:39.354)
I know, think Mike, didn't he bring him? Mike brought him, yeah, I think Mike brought him when he came.
Kelli (50:50.102)
And she's like, Dallas is gonna be a vibe and she's trying to go into it with a positive mind. And then she tells him that she met with a bankruptcy attorney. And did you hear what he said? This is gonna be a public nightmare. Those are the words he used.
Wendy (51:06.161)
Right. Right. And I love when he said like, didn't tell anybody. She's like, no, I didn't tell anybody. And then they cut to the scenes where she told everybody she's ever met in her life. Everybody, right? Everybody. I'm like, okay, okay. Exactly.
Kelli (51:18.356)
Everybody she told anybody who would listen
Kelli (51:27.054)
Anybody who will listen, she told. But he says, I'm gonna give you the money. And we're married and we're riding until the wheels fall off. I love this guy. He says, I'm 10 toes down with you and you're gonna bounce back. I don't know what's happened in the past, Derek, but you won me over.
Wendy (51:40.867)
Me too. When he said that, was like, yep. Listen, Derek is not as hot as Mike.
Derek is not as hot as Mike, but with that statement, Derek, you got me too. Right up there, he's right up there. I was like, when he said I'm 10 does down and we're gonna ride until the wheels fall off, I was like, I love this about him. I love this. I love this. Yeah, no, I'm here for that. And she needs that. my God, she so needs that.
Kelli (51:55.192)
He's right up there. He's right. It's just a notch below.
Kelli (52:06.509)
Yeah.
I know! Amazing!
Kelli (52:18.36)
She does need that. And it sounded like on Watch What Happens Live like this is behind her. It's behind her.
Wendy (52:26.169)
Yeah, I think so and I hope so. I so hope so.
Kelli (52:31.04)
Yeah, so that's about it, right?
Wendy (52:34.937)
Yeah, let me just see. have a couple notes from Watch What Happens Live, but they were after Rory, so let me see what I have. Let's see, okay. Here we go.
Kelli (52:35.758)
That was it.
Wendy (52:53.809)
Andy asked Pinky, what made you wait to tell your husband about the bankruptcy? And Pinky said, don't like I don't want no problems with my baby daddy. Like he pays the bills and I didn't want any problems. Well, he didn't need to worry about that because he's got your back. He's 10 toes down with you. You've got to know that. That's when we find out, cause Maury shows up on Watch What Happens Live.
Kelli (53:20.086)
Yeah, that was nice. And you could tell she was she was totally surprised.
Wendy (53:22.063)
Yeah, we've, yeah, she was, she was. Then they asked, Andy asked her a series of questions. Who has the biggest ego? She said Drew. Who is most likely to throw someone under the bus? She said Shemeah. Who gets along with Derek the most? She said Kay Michelle.
Who was the least welcoming as a newbie? She said Angela. I was surprised to hear that. I would have thought she would have said Portia because I thought Portia, I thought Portia was a bitch to her. It's just me. I was too. Kay Michelle is the greatest ride or die in the friend group. Phaedra has the most skeletons in her closet. Phaedra is the least trustworthy. I probably agree with that. Cynthia would like to avoid
Kelli (53:54.094)
Very surprised.
Kelli (53:59.855)
I was surprised at the Angela comment.
Wendy (54:18.673)
crossing Kelly going to be in the tabloid hex. Kelly's going to be in the tabloids headlines next. So Cynthia would be like the one to avoid crossing. don't, I'm surprised about that too. I don't think Cynthia.
Kelli (54:31.192)
What? I took it just as like, Cynthia's the voice of reason. She's like the kind of like the rock that whole, you know, that centers the group, like the Dolores, you know. So you wouldn't want to cross her because you don't want to be on bad terms with her. That's how I took it. Not that like Cynthia is like, you know, a retaliatory person.
Wendy (54:39.046)
Yeah.
Wendy (54:55.577)
I do think from listening to Humblebrag with Cynthia and Crystal, I do think that Cynthia gets into a little bit of the drama this season though. I don't know exactly what it's about, so there may be something more to that. There may be something more to that. But listen, I love Atlanta. I've always loved Atlanta. I love Phaedra. I think she's shady AF.
Kelli (55:05.933)
Really?
Interesting. Yeah, maybe.
Kelli (55:17.588)
It's good, I just don't want to hear about Pinkie not eating meat anymore or eating meat. That's dumb, that's just dumb. Yeah.
Wendy (55:21.815)
No, who cares? Who cares? Who cares? I'm looking forward to Dallas. I'm looking forward to the whole tequila thing. I wonder if Adrian will be there. Adrian Maloof will be there. Okay. Okay, I'm here for that. I'm here for that. I'm here for that.
Kelli (55:34.402)
I think she is. think we see Adrienne Malouf. I think.
Me too. Me too.
Wendy (55:45.201)
All right, anything else?
Kelli (55:47.5)
No, I think that's it. We got a lot covered though.
Wendy (55:50.661)
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Kelli (55:58.125)
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