Kelli (00:01.024)
Hi, welcome to We Wine whenever I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:03.933)
I'm Wendy.

Lori (00:05.09)
And I'm Lori.

Kelli (00:06.55)
Tonight we're talking about McBee Dynasty season three, episode seven, Boiling Points. before we do that, we'd like to ask if you could please go to our YouTube and subscribe, Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook and follow. And five star reviews if you wish. And please comment and engage, because we love that. And thank you if you've already done that.

Lori (00:28.984)
Yes.

Wendy (00:29.524)
Yeah.

Kelli (00:31.304)
real quick before we start McBee, I I don't know if I sent it or if Gina sent it. One of us sent something today that supposedly there's a screenshot of something going around insinuating that the Kyle Amanda West is fake and it was made up for the show.

Wendy (00:47.922)
believe it. I I don't believe it. I wouldn't even honestly I wouldn't even talk

I wouldn't talk about it 'cause we haven't even seen it. Like we the like any no, you saw the screenshot?

Kelli (00:56.223)
I saw.

Kelli (00:59.814)
I saw the post about it. Well, I'm just I'm just going on record saying this would not surprise me. And I and I've said it before and I'll say it again, this would not surprise me, because I do think Summer House was a sinking ship. So if anybody does find the screenshot, send it to us.

Wendy (01:01.884)
You saw the post, but that's what I'm saying.

Lori (01:02.038)
Right. The post about a screenshot, not the screenshot.

No, it wouldn't surprise me.

Wendy (01:07.975)
Okay.

Wendy (01:16.221)
Okay.

Lori (01:18.883)
There you go.

Wendy (01:19.518)
Sanders, I don't I personally I don't think it's true. I think it's just someone like stirring the pot with, you know, BS information and

Kelli (01:24.47)
Yeah.

I mean Amanda and Kyle Amanda and Wes were together at the Jersey Shore this weekend, so there is that.

Wendy (01:33.193)
Yes, they were. I you know, I saw that video of of him at boat the boatyard. I actually I thought first I I watched it a couple times. I was like, is he actually cleaning up? Like I thought he was cleaning up, like he was condensing the glasses. I th but then you know, I don't know which it was. I wanted to believe that he was trying to be a good citizen and clean up the table and combine the glasses. But maybe he was I didn't see

Kelli (01:47.274)
Mm, I think he was pouring somebody a a drink into another drink.

Kelli (01:59.243)
Maybe. Did he drink out of it after he did that? He was definitely condensing drinks. Right. So the question is was right, was he doing that to help out and clean up? I mean, if you're nor typically if you're at a bar or a restaurant, you don't do that. You might stack some tables, but you're not condensing drinks unless you work there. But we didn't see him drink it.

Wendy (02:02.726)
I did I did not see him drink out of it. I will s I will put that on the record.

Wendy (02:10.824)
Right.

Wendy (02:19.55)
Well, there was a lot of drinks on that t there was a lot of cups on that table. There was a lot of cups on that table, I will say that. A lot of like half n yeah, maybe. I don't know. I thought it was odd though. I did think it was odd.

Kelli (02:25.118)
Yeah, and maybe maybe he's got like some O C D in him. Like maybe he feels like he has to do that, you know, who knows?

Lori (02:34.571)
He's odd, so

Kelli (02:34.612)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, so the episode starts out. We're still in South Dakota at the federal prison and they're driving away from the jail and they're all crying. And Christy basically says, Now the countdown begins. And Steven Jr. says, We're gonna need some advice with the business. And Christy says, Nobody wants to see us succeed more than I do. And then

Wendy (02:36.69)
Yeah, that's true. It's very true.

Kelli (03:03.628)
Casey asks Allie and Allie to go into the back. So it's Casey, Allie Eklund, Allie McBee in the back of the RV. And with the babies. And they basically ask Allie Eklund about their visit to Texas. And Casey says, What did your dad think of Steven? And she said her her dad always says, If you have to ask, you already have your answer.

Wendy (03:14.558)
With the kids.

Kelli (03:32.116)
And she says he didn't say anything. And in the past she's been with people that they didn't approve of. And she said it wasn't good the visit wasn't good timing and Steven Junior definitely seemed flustered.

Lori (03:45.303)
So I think it did not go well. I th that's what that's what I got o offer that whole thing. Yeah.

Kelli (03:47.103)
It did not go well.

I completely agree with you. Completely.

Wendy (03:53.939)
He said the same thing though, too. He I mean, when he came back, that's what his impression was that it didn't go well as well. So at least he's aware.

Kelli (03:59.501)
I don't think it had anything to do with the timing. I don't think it had anything to do with anything other than the fact that he gives off weird vibes. He's a weirdo. Yeah. Casey brings up her and Steven Jr.'s conversation about the tallow business, and Allie says Steven wants her to have ownership of the tallow business. And Casey is probably confused.

Lori (04:09.333)
Yeah, he's a weirdo. He's a weirdo.

Kelli (04:26.538)
Casey says Steven Junior is scary when he's mad and Allie's like, What scares you? And Casey's like, He's just scary.

Lori (04:34.721)
Well, you know, you're using that particular word for a reason.

Kelli (04:39.338)
Yeah.

Lori (04:40.972)
You know?

Kelli (04:41.952)
Yeah.

Wendy (04:42.484)
said he has a bad temper and you know, he's like a like an explosion. And according to Ali, she's heard that from other people that know him well. So it's not the first time she's hearing it.

Kelli (04:56.83)
Sure, Casey's witnessed I mean, we saw a little bit of it when I forget what Cole did last season, but he's like, you a big man now? Like he can't kinda came at his own brother. I'm sure Casey has seen it and heard about it from her own fiance, you know, how Steven Jr. reacts to certain situations.

Lori (05:17.473)
And I and I have a feeling that the old man is the same way. I bet you he's got a ripper on temper.

Kelli (05:21.284)
Absolutely. I think I think he is probably a chip off the old block from that father and I and we talked about it last week. I I also think he's on some kind of enhancement for his physique that affects his temperament as well.

Lori (05:28.013)
Mm.

Lori (05:39.853)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (05:43.488)
Hopefully that's all it is and it's it's not something else that can alter your behavior.

Wendy (05:47.518)
I don't think that's all it is. I don't think that all I think it's the guy's a dick. I think he's a dick. I really just think he's a dick, you know.

Kelli (05:50.27)
I have a feeling that's not all it is.

Lori (05:53.867)
Yeah. I think he's a tech too.

Kelli (05:54.507)
Well, I just hope it's not like a I'm not even gonna say

Anywho, Jesse and Cole go to see Galena and Jesse has Summer with them and then Allie came and picked her up. So it does seem like maybe he's I feel like like in this episode we saw him with Summer a little bit more.

Wendy (06:13.054)
Yeah.

Lori (06:17.153)
But now how about how about when she s like grilling him about, well, when's the last time you fed the baby? And like didn't even give like a second to think about it. you don't even know anything. And then she's she says, the baby turned away from you Like I was just like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like there's there's a lot going on there.

Kelli (06:43.606)
So so Wendy had mentioned that the one scene where he comes home from work and she's like, Can you get me a bottle? Like an I to me, like sometimes I think that this is production. because again, that I thought that too last night, because I I would probably wouldn't have thought about it, but it was brought, you know, brought up before. but yeah, she did she did say, but I like, listen, we're all sensitive, first child.

Lori (06:53.749)
Mm.

Kelli (07:12.384)
There's a lot of there there can be the blame game going on. So when she says, when did you last feed her? I mean, he she kind of didn't even give him a chance to answer, unless that was production. And then right. And then she's like, you don't even remember? That I don't like. Like, that's a dig, even though she might not think it's it she might not think it in her head, but he's taking it as like, just give me, g just give me a minute.

Lori (07:16.344)
absolutely.

Lori (07:25.079)
Right. Right.

Wendy (07:26.642)
Unless that was production, right.

Lori (07:42.187)
Right, right, right. Right. And she did say, look, the baby turned away from you I was just like, Whoa, there's a lot going on there, man.

Kelli (07:43.294)
Unless it was production.

Kelli (07:51.286)
But again, she could have just been kidding, like, my god, look, she just like totally turned away from you. Like kidding, but

Lori (07:55.594)
Right, right, right.

Kelli (07:58.741)
Right now it doesn't seem like there's a lot of jovial moments between the two of them, so

Wendy (08:00.37)
Yeah.

Lori (08:03.025)
No, no, and he he seems like he's got a lot going on too. Like there's those still waters kinda run deep over there. I don't know if he's depressed or I don't know what's going on with him.

Kelli (08:11.872)
I think he's very stoic. Well, I think yeah, like he he strikes me as the type to not want to have anything to do with this show, quite honestly. And private yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean what's he gonna do? Not do it?

Lori (08:22.963)
Mm-hmm. And maybe he's just doing it 'cause everybody else did it. Yeah.

Wendy (08:24.318)
He's a private person.

I mean, he's a very private person. I mean, when Allie tried to take a picture Allie Eklund tried to pick take a picture of Jesse and Allie McBee kissing, they're like, no, we don't do that in public. Like we don't do that in public. And he's ver like I said, he's he's just a very private person. He doesn't like to show he and he doesn't communicate. His own mother said that. He's not a good communicator.

Kelli (08:49.852)
Right. He internalizes everything. Ga yeah, right.

Lori (08:52.013)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (08:52.37)
He and which I said in the very beginning, and I'm not his mother. Like I could immediately notice that about him. Like he just just he holds everything inside and then it just kind of he breaks down, like we saw last year before the wedding. You know, he he's he's crying because he's like he's afraid and I I just think it's a a matter of time before this happens with him again. I feel like we're gonna see it because it's just getting to the boiling point, which I guess w in my opinion, like that's what

Kelli (09:08.404)
Right.

Wendy (09:22.12)
This episode name is about, in my opinion.

Kelli (09:25.632)
You know what's interesting when we saw that anniversary dinner with them and he admitted that he had been drinking and that he was buzzin', right? He was much more communicative. Not in a great way, 'cause he was like, Well, you you make a you know, you made a lot of money. We can have the wago, you know, whatever the hell he was ordering, but but he was more communicative with the alcohol.

Wendy (09:33.107)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Lori (09:38.293)
Right, but still more.

Wendy (09:38.579)
No.

Lori (09:44.35)
Right, right.

Wendy (09:48.925)
Yeah.

Lori (09:50.603)
Yeah. Yeah, there's just a lot going on there.

Kelli (09:53.909)
Yeah. Yeah. So they tell Galena about dropping Senior off and Galena says that Steve not being in the business and calling her every day is, you know, that's that's gonna make things a lot different. And then they talk about this NFR and getting a boot booth there, which is the National Finals rodeo, and it's in two weeks and it's a huge convention. And then we learn from Galena that Masha got a speeding ticket and went to jail for two days. Galena says

Wendy (10:21.224)
That's the craziest thing.

Kelli (10:22.856)
It's just but Galena's saying it's like Romeo and Juliet.

Lori (10:26.635)
Yeah. Now they're both in jail. That's great.

Wendy (10:29.95)
For two days. I mean, what kind of speeding ticket do you get and you wind up in jail for two days?

Kelli (10:31.06)
Is

Kelli (10:34.324)
I'll tell you what, you're right. There has to be more to the story. Unless you had a warrant out.

Lori (10:34.655)
I don't know.

Lori (10:41.645)
I don't know.

Wendy (10:42.036)
And then what's that for?

Kelli (10:44.136)
Exactly. Exactly.

Wendy (10:45.428)
Listen, Galena's been arrested too, so she really has no place to talk.

Kelli (10:51.126)
She doesn't have any place. But these Russians, these crazy Russian women, man, they don't care. They don't play. Galina is not worried about karma. She's just throwing it all out there.

Lori (10:56.247)
They don't play. Nope, they don't play.

Wendy (11:04.764)
No, she's not.

Kelli (11:06.348)
So Steven Jr., Allie Eklund, Cole, and Casey meet up. Steven thanks them for coming in and Casey says, let's just get this over with.

Lori (11:16.939)
Yes, she seemed super uncomfortable. Super uncomfortable. I was like, Ooh, ooh.

Kelli (11:19.18)
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Cole says it's a lot on Casey to get everything done while taking care of the baby. And Casey says, I help out all the time when I can. And Allie says, Well, usually when you own a business, that's how it is. And Casey's like, No, I'm not talking about the tallow. I'm talking about the other businesses. And I tend to believe her. I tend to believe that Casey's just that chick that like Allie.

Lori (11:40.429)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (11:44.969)
McBee has her career. She's like a nurse practitioner or something. She's got her career in the city. Casey's like that down home girl. Like she's gonna whatever you need on the farm. Well, you know, exactly. And I'm not saying anything negative about Allie McBee. I'm just saying. And by the way, every time I say Allie McBee, I want to say Allie McBeal because I loved that show. Did you guys watch that show?

Lori (11:56.577)
Right, right.

Wendy (11:57.801)
Yeah. And she lives on the farm. She lives on the farm.

Wendy (12:04.284)
No, but they're just two different people. They're two different people.

Wendy (12:11.796)
I did. I I did.

Lori (12:12.94)
I don't want to.

Kelli (12:13.88)
my god. One of the best shows ever. You should see if you can stream it, because it's a great show. and Casey says she agrees that she shouldn't get a hundred percent of the profits if they're gonna help. But Steven Jr. does not stop by. He does not see how the tallow's being made. and she says that they she and Junior used to be close and now he treats her like he's her boss.

Lori (12:43.671)
Well, he you see, this is the thing. You can be in an authoritarian role but not make somebody feel like shit. Like you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. He just thinks that because he's got this MBA that you know, he he just like knows it all and he's very condescending.

Kelli (13:03.273)
Exactly.

Lori (13:10.517)
And he doesn't see it at all. He doesn't see it at all. And I think yeah, I think that's a big part of the problem 'cause you can't you can't talk to people like that, you know? You're gonna rub the wrong way.

Kelli (13:10.593)
Yes.

Wendy (13:10.91)
He's very condescending. That's the problem. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (13:21.088)
No, he's he he has horrible communication skills. So he could be the smartest guy on earth, but y nah. Yep.

Lori (13:26.177)
Horrible.

Right, with great ideas, but it doesn't matter because it's all in your delivery. And if your delivery sucks.

Kelli (13:35.615)
Right. So Cole tells Casey Yeah. Cole tells Casey that he I mean, Cole says that he would like Casey to learn how to like monetize on social media the way Allie Eklund does, because obviously she's doing quite well with it. because Steven Jr. says, How about you get to Allie Eklund, how about you get a percentage of your posts so you get paid immediately? And Allie says, Well, typically I get twenty percent

Wendy (13:37.576)
No, I completely agree.

Kelli (14:03.82)
Plus ten K a post, ten thousand. So there's no way. She says, so there's no way. So Junior wants t her commission to like work towards vested equity in the company.

Wendy (14:20.436)
N no, he wants to pay the twenty percent commission and instead of the ten thousand dollars a post, that will roll into vested equity. Not the com like the commission would be separate, it'd two separate things.

Lori (14:24.139)
Right.

Lori (14:27.969)
That would go into equity. Right. Yeah.

Kelli (14:29.502)
Right. Right.

Right. So Steven, Cole says s he's heard of baby trapping someone, but Steven Junior's business trapping her.

Lori (14:43.767)
business traffic, which is a great, great, great comment. Great comment call. Exactly.

Kelli (14:47.558)
Absolutely. Because that's exactly what he's doing. And Allie says she doesn't see a part for her in this and she doesn't think Casey and Steven Jr. are communicating well. So she clearly at this point she's not into it.

Wendy (14:49.17)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Lori (15:04.255)
No, no. No, cause I think she's seeing the flags.

Wendy (15:05.31)
She's not into it.

Kelli (15:09.928)
Exactly. And I don't blame her. Like whether you believe in the business or not, because I'm sure it's a great product. I I use beef tallow you know moisturizer, but I haven't tried theirs. It's very expensive. And theirs is very expensive, yeah.

Lori (15:16.139)
Right. Mm-hmm. Me too.

Lori (15:24.503)
That's the only thing I can use on my face, actually.

Wendy (15:24.872)
Theirs ex is expensive?

Lori (15:28.959)
It it's all very expensive. But I found

Kelli (15:31.4)
It is, but there's is I think it like when I looked yeah. But whatever, maybe you know.

Lori (15:34.421)
Even more. Yeah. I'll have to look at it com compare to what I pay for. I get mine from some place in Ireland, but

Wendy (15:43.624)
Don't they have it at Trader Joe's? Doesn't Trader Joe's make one? I feel like Trader Joe's makes everything beauty products cheaper. I think we should check Trader Joe's. I bet you they have one.

Lori (15:47.052)
I don't know.

Kelli (15:47.232)
I don't know.

Kelli (15:52.275)
I will check it. I was just there today too, damn it. I will check there. I get mine off of Amazon, but I got like I like I researched it.

Lori (15:52.427)
We should check me, I guess. damn it.

Wendy (15:55.549)
Yeah.

Wendy (16:01.673)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (16:01.677)
All right, we'll have to I'll have to look at what brand you get and you'll have to look at what brand I

Kelli (16:05.342)
Yeah. I mean listen, we can order we can order the McBee's and see if we like it.

Wendy (16:06.6)
And then check Trader Joe's.

Lori (16:09.835)
And see if we like it, yeah. So basically it comes down to she's not, you know, people are all out there saying, she's asking for twenty percent of the bit. No. No, she's not. No. No. He he right, he was trying to throw that fishing line out there. But she was she was she was smart 'cause she was like, Mm, no, I don't I don't see this I don't see this happening.

Kelli (16:12.875)
So

Wendy (16:21.608)
She wasn't.

Kelli (16:21.79)
No, she wasn't. He definitely was though.

Kelli (16:34.326)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:38.56)
Yeah, I think she checked out at this point.

Wendy (16:38.98)
she's she's a smart business person. She's I mean she has a finance degree herself and she's like these two can't even communicate, let alone they don't have an operating agreement, they don't have their their roles defined. You know, Casey's taking money out of her own pocket and putting it into this business. Of course she's gonna ha feel a certain way about it. She's the one who came up with the recipe, she's the one who refined the recipe, she's the one who created the product. You know? And that's what she's trying to express to Stephen. Like

Kelli (17:03.008)
Right. Right.

Lori (17:03.095)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (17:06.866)
You don't even know how I make it. Okay, yes. I'm not asking you to come over here and batch it out. I'm I'm asking you to come over here and see what the process is so that you can hire someone at fifteen dollars an hour. Like don't be a dick. Don't be a dick about it. You know?

Lori (17:18.475)
Right. Right, don't be a dick. But now isn't it weird, 'cause didn't they finally settle on like McBee getting like seventy percent? Which I thought was wild. No? What was it?

Kelli (17:21.718)
He is addicta.

Kelli (17:29.004)
So so they start so they start to talk about the profit split. And Casey says McBee should get the majority, which I think is pretty generous of her. So McBee would get forty, Casey thirty, Steven Junior thirty. But you know, let's face it, the McBee getting forty is gonna benefit both of them as well.

Wendy (17:29.436)
No.

Wendy (17:33.523)
Hmm.

Lori (17:39.008)
I think so.

Wendy (17:39.335)
I do too.

Lori (17:47.615)
Okay. Okay. That's how we then know.

Kelli (17:53.995)
Right. So Ali says there's no operating agreement and it's not clear what anyone's role is and this is not how she does business. I mean, listen, we're three neighbors friends who decided to do a podcast and we have an operating agreement. You know what I mean?

Lori (18:10.507)
Right.

Wendy (18:11.06)
Right. And we have an L L C like they don't even have that. Like they like he said No, he no, he no, you wouldn't. You would do a separate one. You would not do it under the McVe one. The McVee one's tarnished. You'd want to do your own.

Kelli (18:14.836)
I mean, I'm sure they're gonna do everything under the McBee umbrella.

Lori (18:25.707)
Yeah, I that's if I was her, I'd be like, No, we're doing it separate.

Kelli (18:27.22)
But if they're saying McBee's gonna get forty percent, then

Wendy (18:30.982)
Still don't want to do it underneath there. You do not want to do it underneath there.

Kelli (18:35.446)
Well, either way, it is what it is. They they should have an operating agreement. I mean, it's it's the everybody needs to know their role.

Wendy (18:37.363)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:46.204)
Casey doesn't think she's getting any credit for what she's done. Casey and Cole leave, and Steven says he can hire someone for $15 an hour to do what Casey's doing. And Allie says if you can't communicate, then you should not be in business together. And she's very right. Like he's very that right there was very condescending.

Lori (19:07.441)
absolutely. And you know, he's he's foolish because it could be a very lucrative part of their business, especially because they'll be utilizing product that's right now garbage. So, you know, what are you doing?

Kelli (19:23.818)
Right, exactly.

Kelli (19:28.704)
All right, so the face cream I think is thirty five. So that's actually not bad. What I was looking at was actually a bundle and it was over fifty and I thought that was just for the face cream. So it's on thirty five is I I believe what I paid for mine on Amazon.

Lori (19:31.885)
That's that's actually not bad at all.

okay.

Wendy (19:48.341)
So I did think it was interesting that after Cole and Casey left, Steve Junior and Allie were sitting there talking and Steven said, like, you know, I could hire someone for fifteen dollars an hour. Allie said, Well, why didn't you say that to her? And he said, Well, I can't do that because she's like she's already she's sitting there, she's already pissed off at me. And that's the problem with the family business. Like Ali said, Well

Like, you don't say anything, and then he's like, Well, are they still out there? Like, or 'cause he he wants to know if he like, are they still out there? And she's like, I don't know. And and Allie in her confessionals, like, he doesn't want to say anything because he knows who he is and he doesn't want to explode on her. He doesn't want to explode on her because one, Cole is there, but more importantly, on camera. He doesn't want to expl and Allie's there.

Lori (20:19.181)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (20:29.92)
Right.

Kelli (20:35.092)
And Allie's there. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Lori (20:35.915)
And Allie's there 'cause he's he's trying to put on a f a mask.

Wendy (20:42.182)
Right. Yep. And she's catching on. Like she's catching on very quickly. Like, you know, when before the season started, we only knew one side of the story. Which 'cause she really wasn't talking. She really hasn't talked. I mean, he sent out the text, you know, he's he screenshotted the the text messages and she never spoke to him again. They haven't spoken since then.

Kelli (20:42.208)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (21:05.958)
And she was not out there giving him bad press. I mean, she was not doing that, which she very well could have been, but she's like, you know what? I heard her at finally at some point once the show did start airing, she's like, I had tried to protect him this whole time. I was never going to out him. But as soon as he put it out there, you know, there's no protecting that. There's no protecting that. I don't think she's a bad guy. I don't.

Kelli (21:26.538)
Right. Right. No.

Lori (21:27.371)
Yeah. No.

Kelli (21:34.079)
No, I don't Allie Eklund. No, I don't think she's the bad guy at all. I listen, I think she went on this show for an opportunity. I don't think she fell in love with somebody over DMs on Instagram. I think she went on because it was like, all right, well, this guy's interested in me. It's a reality TV show. I'm in that arena anyway. So let me just go say what's gonna happen. Exactly. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Wendy (21:36.56)
No. No.

Lori (21:55.155)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (21:55.401)
Right, it's not gonna hurt and like explore it. Right, right.

Lori (21:57.996)
Right. It it fits her whole right. It fits her whole genre. It's the whole western blah blah blah the whole thing.

Wendy (22:02.1)
No.

Kelli (22:03.849)
For sure. People are doing much worse on reality TV than what this girl did. And honestly, she's kind of being the voice of reason right now between Casey and Steven Junior.

Wendy (22:05.31)
Right.

Wendy (22:16.018)
No, I absolutely think she is. I do.

Kelli (22:17.386)
So

Lori (22:17.665)
Well, between Stephen Junior and anybody, she's the voice of reason. God's sake.

Kelli (22:19.932)
Exactly. Exactly.

Wendy (22:22.964)
Well it's not that hard when you're putting Stephen Jr. in the equation.

Lori (22:24.917)
Yeah. In the mix, yeah.

Kelli (22:27.728)
So yeah. So now we're at Jesse and Allie's it looks like they're at the city house with summer. And Allie says she took off for Vegas. Christy's gonna babysit and you could tell she's like excited, right? And basically,

Wendy (22:34.036)
Mm.

Lori (22:46.849)
He's a Debbie Downer. Basically.

Kelli (22:48.502)
He doesn't he's like, well

You should go no matter what I do. So they're going to Vegas for that conference, the the McBee boys. And Christy was gracious enough to get the girls' rooms too, so that they could do like a bachelorette thing for Casey, even though no wedding's planned yet. But we're shooting a reality TV show and time is of the essence. So let's just get that bachelorette party in.

Wendy (23:15.132)
Right, right.

Lori (23:15.884)
Right.

Wendy (23:18.663)
Right, why not?

Kelli (23:20.114)
Yeah, no, it's gr it's gonna be it's gonna be good for the show. so you know, Allie's excited. Jesse doesn't wanna go. Allie says she doesn't feel comfortable in her own skin yet, and Jesse's not helping with that. See, this is she asks him what his hesitation is going to Vegas, and he said it feels shallow being a week after they took his dad to prison. I can understand that.

Lori (23:45.333)
I think that's an excuse. I think that's an excuse though.

Kelli (23:47.679)
It's obviously an excuse, but if it weren't, I you know, I could understand it. Allie says it would be nice for them to sleep together with the without the baby in the middle of them. And Jesse says, like I said, there's pros and cons. Ugh. And then in his confessional, it's interesting to me how he opens up in his confessional, though. It's it's it's interesting to me. He says that their marriage isn't the best right now.

And he doesn't really think everyone should see that. So that's what he's afraid of.

Wendy (24:20.316)
I listen, that's what he's afraid of, and he's being honest. That's absolutely what he's afraid of because he's a very private person and he doesn't want this to air out in public. This is just who he is. Like, I mean, yes, he's filming a show, but even if he wasn't filming a show, I don't think that he would want to go hang out with his brothers and everybody else, because I don't think he'd want them to see that there's this distance between him and Allie.

Lori (24:21.813)
Mm-hmm. I think that's what he's afraid of, yeah.

Kelli (24:46.55)
You know, it's funny though, because I I forget how old Tess was, but we went, Eric's friend got married in Maryland and d we brought Tess. She was a baby, she wasn't even walking yet. My sister Patty took her, you know. And it was just overnight. But it was like a long, like it was a long it was over twenty four hours that we were gonna be away because we had to drive to Maryland, go to the wedding, stay over, blah, blah, blah. But you don't realize like

They'd probably I hope we see it and I hope we see them have a good time together. They'll probably have such a great time together because there is no stress of taking care of the baby. Probably not.

Lori (25:23.541)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (25:23.752)
I don't think that happens though, 'cause w we see scenes from next week. We see scenes from next week. It doesn't look good. He's in a strip bar, she's in a strip bar. Jesse's like, How is this helping? Like, I'm in a strip club. She i it's just like it's not a good scene. I don't think it's gonna help them. I think if anything, it's gonna make it worse. I kind of think that Jesse was right. I really do. I think that he he was

Lori (25:29.013)
It doesn't look good.

Kelli (25:40.81)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:54.515)
He saw this disaster coming. He saw that it nothing good. He knows who his brothers are. He knows how Cole and Steven Junior like to party and Jake and he knows what was gonna go on there. It was gonna be a lot of drinking and a lot of partying, and that just isn't what he wanted to do. And I'll be honest with you, every time every season we've seen him, the only time I've ever seen him really intoxicated.

Kelli (26:00.258)
Wow.

Lori (26:06.124)
Mm.

Kelli (26:06.241)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:10.667)
Right.

Lori (26:11.266)
Right.

Wendy (26:20.146)
was that time when he went for his anniversary dinner. When he was I I mean, when they've been to No, he wasn't fall down. He was buzzing. He was buzzing. He wasn't fall down drunk. But like Cole, we've seen drunk many times. Steven we've seen at we've seen drunk. But we've never seen Jesse drunk. And I just don't think that's who he is. And listen, if you're gonna be around people that are doing that, it's gonna get uncomfortable.

Kelli (26:26.944)
And he wasn't it wasn't like horrible, he just buzzed up. Yeah.

Lori (26:29.013)
No, go ahead and crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (26:48.828)
And I think he was trying to avoid making things worse. And honestly, I think that, you know, I understand his mom's point of view that she was trying to do it for Allie. But I think in my opinion, and again it's hindsight now, I think she should have respected his wishes and and s you know, kind of heard his reasoning for it, you know.

Kelli (26:48.928)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:52.449)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:10.592)
Well, it's probably a situation where if he weren't going, Allie it probably wouldn't even be on her radar to go. and everybody agrees that Allie needed to go, like Allie needed some time away. Like she deserved a break.

Lori (27:17.463)
Mm-hmm. And I wonder if he

Lori (27:23.957)
Right. Right. And I wonder

Wendy (27:24.346)
Right. Right. And but he said go without her. He said go. Go I want you to go and have fun.

Lori (27:30.487)
Right. I wonder if he's afraid to actually be alone with her.

Kelli (27:38.55)
Wow. I mean that's you know, that's a thing. That's a real thing. Yeah.

Lori (27:42.498)
You know what mean? Because then you really have to look at your relationship in the face. Like you can't pretend like you can't throw the baby in the middle. You can't say there's work. You can't you know what I mean? You can't throw all that stuff up. It's if it's if you're somewhere and it's just the two of you in a hotel room, you gotta fucking talk about something. Like you gotta do s so I don't know.

Kelli (27:45.995)
Right.

Kelli (27:49.739)
Yeah.

Wendy (28:06.472)
Yeah. I don't know, I yeah.

Kelli (28:06.698)
Yeah. All right. Well, let's move on from it. We'll f we'll see what happens next week. So Cole and Steven Jr. are at the full fulfillment center and junior says the tallow business has them stressed out. Cole says Casey shuts down more with with Steven Jr. than when they argue, her and and Cole. Jesse joins them and Jesse says he hasn't packed up for Vegas and he says he's thinking the timing for the trip is terrible. And

Eyes are gonna be on them for dropping their dad off. Like he's very worried about the he's saying he's very worried about the optics, Jesse. you know, Jesse says Allie really wants to go, but the bankers are expecting them to take over and it's not a good look for them to be out partying. Again, it's it's not outlandish that he's thinking this way because obviously we see what they're gonna be doing out there and he knew that.

He wants to bury himself in work instead of going ma alle because she's gonna want him to be emotionally available and it's hard for him. So he doesn't want to go. Yeah. Yeah, he said it, yeah.

Lori (29:07.021)
That's what I'm saying.

Wendy (29:07.454)
Well he says it. No, he says it. He absolutely says it. He's honest about it. He's absolutely honest about it.

Kelli (29:14.826)
So Allie, Allie, Allie, Casey, and Tegan all go to Nigro's for some swag for NFR. I'm assuming that's how it's pronounced. If somebody knows and wants to correct me, go right ahead. And then Allie and yeah, so they all show up and Tegan mentions that they're gonna go to an Australian strip show for Casey's Bachelorette. Yeah, the Thunder Down Under.

Lori (29:30.317)
my.

Wendy (29:40.51)
Thunder down under, right?

Kelli (29:43.795)
Allie says Jesse isn't going, and the girls are like, All right, well, he needs to go because you guys need some time away. Which is obviously what Jesse's trying to avoid. So so they're having their conversation at this at the store. Christy goes to see Jesse and Jesse tells her that Allie is excited to go, but he doesn't know if he wants to go because of the business optics. Christy says it will be fine, and you have people back here to deal with things.

Lori (30:13.205)
And now w during that scene with him and his mom, I don't know if you caught it, but production certainly did something. There was a song in on the background and it said, Am I my own worst enemy? When Jesse's face was yeah, when Jesse's face was on the screen, I was like, look at you people. Look at you people. Uhhuh. Uhhuh.

Wendy (30:27.33)
I didn't hear it.

Kelli (30:31.837)
I didn't hear that either.

Wendy (30:33.5)
I didn't hear. But Jesse does admit that he hasn't done a good job being there. he admits it. Like he's like I've I haven't done a good job being there for Allie.

Lori (30:40.321)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (30:42.184)
No, he says he put he put their relationship on the back burner. And and Christy says it happens, but the timing isn't great because she has postpartum. So here another one just like on the valley. Now we're learning. So she must be struggling with postpartum depression, which

Wendy (30:46.068)
Mm.

Lori (31:00.301)
Mm.

Wendy (31:01.694)
So I feel like listen, I it is horrible. And I think what keep what the the common theme we keep seeing with these these people with postpartum again, it is a real thing, but guess what? Jesse's going through something too. You know what? I know he didn't have a baby, but this is his first child and they just got married. She was pregnant when they got married. Like he's not it's same with Kristen and Luke. I mean, yes, his family's there, so he's got that, but like this is new for him too.

Kelli (31:02.304)
It's horrible.

Wendy (31:28.86)
And I feel like just because he's a man, again, he didn't give birth to I get it. But I feel like people need to give him a break too. I feel like they do. I feel like, you know, the men

Kelli (31:34.166)
I don't think Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it does it sounds like

Lori (31:38.07)
Well, it's a very s it's very stressful time as a couple, especially when your wife has postpartum. So all of a sudden here's this person that like you don't even know anymore because they're going through something, you don't know what to do, your life's a mess now too, and it's just like, my God, what the fuck is happening in my life? You know, for both people it's it's a lot.

Wendy (31:51.133)
Mm.

Wendy (31:54.974)
Right.

Kelli (32:00.983)
Well and and typically in in marriages the husband just wants to fix everything. So postpartum depression, there's no fixing that. That's you have to talk, you know, you have to talk. I remember my doctor telling me, You have to talk to anybody who will listen to you. That that obviously I went on medicine too, but that will help you tremendously. You have to talk about it. So I did.

Wendy (32:03.86)
It's a lot.

Wendy (32:13.694)
There's no fixing that. I mean

Wendy (32:31.078)
I think that I honestly think that that's what Jesse and Allie need is they need to be going to a couple's therapists like Kristen and Luke did because the therapist said, like, when you put a baby in there, it's like a bomb, like in the middle of your relationship, right? And you need to you need to talk about it. And what better place?

Lori (32:36.424)
Almost definitely.

Kelli (32:44.224)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (32:44.279)
Like a bomb.

Kelli (32:47.092)
And listen, Kristen's getting annoyed at Luke for going out once in a while or whatever, you know, going to a bar. Jesse's taking off for three days to go work on the farm. That's a big difference. I'm sure he's not coming home drunk like Luke, you know what I mean? But going out once a week with the boys just to get a break as opposed to l disappearing for three days. That's a big that's a big difference.

Wendy (32:58.856)
Right.

Lori (33:05.057)
Right, right, right.

Wendy (33:05.587)
Right.

Lori (33:14.061)
It's a big deal. Yeah.

Wendy (33:15.61)
No, I agree. I agree.

Kelli (33:17.622)
So Christie says you you know, your life changes with marriage and kids, but she doesn't want them to go down the same path as she and Senior. And she's like, just go for Ali, it's only a couple of days.

Wendy (33:30.931)
I like that she said she's y you've been her person since high school. Like you guys need to reconnect. And then we see pictures of them from twenty fifteen. And I'm like, it's like like sh I get what she's saying. I a hundred percent get what she's saying. I feel like though she kind of needs to respect his side of it too. I I you know, like he's not ready. He's not ready and he doesn't want to let her down. Like he's gonna go there. He's not ready to be there for her.

Kelli (33:38.602)
Yeah. So cute.

Lori (33:39.681)
I know.

Kelli (33:48.299)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:52.778)
I think she's you know

Kelli (34:00.725)
Yeah, but Christy's also his mom and she says he internalizes his feelings and isn't a good communicator. so she also knows maybe when he needs to be pushed to address something that he might be

Wendy (34:07.272)
Yeah.

Lori (34:14.797)
Putting off or t putting to the side or yeah.

Kelli (34:15.774)
Yep. Yeah. I mean the baby's a couple of months old at this point. I mean, you know, postpartum depression it lasts, but n typically I don't I'm I'm only talking from my own experience by like six months, by the time Tess was like six months, I was feeling a lot better, a lot better. So, you know, she's gonna come through the other side of this soon. Sp but

Wendy (34:16.892)
Yeah.

Wendy (34:20.915)
Yeah.

Kelli (34:43.754)
You know, she might feel like you're you're procrastinating and you need to, you know, what what is your end game here? You're not gonna get divorced. Like that's ridiculous. You just got married and had a baby. So you gotta, you know, put your put your big boy panties on and and start being being the man. I don't know. so now we're back at the store and Allie Eklund asks Casey if she's mad at Junior and

She says, I just wonder how it's gonna go in Vegas. That's what Casey's response was. And then Allie Eklund asks her if she's mad at her. And Allie McBee is like, you'll know if she's mad at you. And I definitely get that vibe from Casey. And then Casey shows them a text message to her from Steven Jr. And then she said she's reached out to him and he won't respond.

Wendy (35:24.04)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (35:24.157)
Yeah.

Kelli (35:40.768)
But ca but Allie Eklund said, st well Steven told me that you wouldn't respond to him. So here's another red flag.

Lori (35:47.253)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (35:52.425)
and Casey says they used to be super close and it just sucks now that they're in this position. So Allie Eklund is trying to figure out the dynamic between the two of them and she's a little worried and she thought Steven Jr. was working on his temper and maybe he hasn't been.

And then we see Steven Junior is at his Kansas City condo. I mean, all of these people have two two houses, two homes. Yeah.

Lori (36:20.994)
Holmes.

Wendy (36:22.202)
No, n Cole and K Cole and Casey don't. They only have one.

Kelli (36:26.78)
I think they might because they lived somewhere while they were building this other house.

Wendy (36:32.818)
I don't think so. I don't think they do. Okay.

Kelli (36:34.964)
Yeah, we're gonna have to fact check that. I'm gonna go back and look because I think they might. anyway, Allie says in the past her family saw red flags with her ex and she ignored them and got married anyway. And then she brings up the She yeah, she was married. Yeah, she was married. Yeah.

Wendy (36:49.448)
Wait, did she get married or sh I didn't think she married the yeah, okay s okay. yeah, that's right, that's right.

Lori (36:52.911)
yeah, she did, yeah. She and she was divorced within a year.

Kelli (36:58.838)
So she brings up the text messages to Casey and of course Steven Junior denies sending them and says that when those three get together, you know, they build up his behavior to to make it like it's horrific. And then he reads her his text message. So it it didn't it didn't really sound that bad, right?

Wendy (37:22.708)
I mean it didn't sound great. I I don't think it sounded it didn't sound great, but I just thought it was interesting when he starts reading them.

Lori (37:24.599)
Didn't sound great either.

Kelli (37:28.34)
It wasn't like a ra it wasn't like the text messages that he sent her for crying out loud.

Lori (37:32.199)
No, no, no, no. And it and it does say that they only own the one home. I googled.

Wendy (37:33.508)
No, it wasn't like that. I thought it was Right. they do? Okay. So I thought it was interesting when he starts to read the text message and she said, I wanna see it when you read it.

Kelli (37:38.856)
okay, thank you.

Lori (37:45.271)
See it. Mm-hmm. I was thinking Ooh OK. See no dummy.

Kelli (37:48.385)
Yeah.

Wendy (37:48.498)
So like she's no dummy. She's like, You're not you're you're not gonna give me what you w I wanna see it. I wanna make sure you're reading me exactly what's there.

Lori (37:53.847)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (37:56.385)
Yeah. Yeah. So so then they call Casey and a

Wendy (37:58.265)
Which I ca what were your thoughts on that? What were your thoughts on her?

Lori (38:04.555)
Yeah, I was just I was just thinking like, girl, what what are you and then so I thought, Well, what are you doing? Like getting involved in that and then I was thinking to myself, you know what? I think she's doing it 'cause she really wants she's trying to get a read. I think sh I think she was trying to get a read on the whole situation and that's why she insisted insisted upon it because I think she was kinda like, you know what? Fuck

Kelli (38:22.656)
I think she's seeing a lot of red flags now.

Kelli (38:31.467)
Yeah.

Lori (38:34.007)
this, like let's call her right like let's I'm not like messing around with this anymore kind of thing 'cause it at first I was like that's kind of ballsy. Like who are you?

Kelli (38:40.108)
She's sensing something between the two of them.

Wendy (38:45.864)
Thought it was weird. I did think it was weird, especially when she said when she said, I'm about to I'm next. I'm about to go in and get my spray tan. Like so it sounds to me like she's standing there, like undressed, getting ready to get her spray tan. And she's like, I ha I have a minute. Like that's a little awkward. This is what I'm envisioning, right? And then they start to kind of go a little bit back and forth, and she says, like, listen, at this point, I'm not, it's not even about the text, right? She's like, I I'm over that.

Kelli (38:53.897)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (39:02.487)
Right.

Kelli (39:13.706)
Yeah. Right.

Wendy (39:15.346)
Right? I don't know. I just thought it was a I thought it was a very awkward situation.

Lori (39:18.945)
Well listen, the whole thing was weird and got weirder by the second.

Kelli (39:23.006)
I just think that Allie at this point is like, what what is going on between these two? Like, cause it does seem more than a sister-in-law, brother-in-law relationship. Although I I was very close with my brother-in-law's, but you know, but whatever. I don't know. It maybe I I thought that's what why Allie was like, we're calling Casey right now. Cause now this is like weird. Like I'm in the middle of this. Did did you rage test?

Wendy (39:23.357)
Yes.

Wendy (39:29.629)
Yeah.

Lori (39:47.735)
Yeah. Now now it's weird.

Kelli (39:51.661)
Text, did you read your text? I'm not seeing what she was saying, and you're telling me you didn't, you know. But so they when they hang up with Casey, Steven Jr. says he wants other people around when they talk so that things don't get twisted. And then he says, A couple of months ago, Allie McBee was going around saying that Casey and Steven Jr. have an inappropriate relationship and Cole needs to keep an eye on it. So

Lori (40:21.089)
That was w that was weird. 'Cause if that's if that's really the case, then how could Allie and Casey have the relationship that they have? It doesn't even make sense.

Kelli (40:23.904)
And

Kelli (40:36.606)
Allie McBay. Well she's not with Steven, she's with Jesse.

Wendy (40:36.788)
Yeah.

Lori (40:37.823)
Yeah.

No, but how could Allie McGee and Casey have the relationship that they have with each other? How could they just that's what or if there was a reason to spread it? That's what I'm saying. Like it doesn't make no fucking sense.

Wendy (40:41.328)
I know, but still right.

I agree with you.

Kelli (40:47.716)
if Allie was actually running around spreading that rumor? okay. I gotcha. Yeah, no, I agree. If somebody said that about me, I'd be I wouldn't be extremely close with them.

Wendy (40:51.783)
Right.

Wendy (40:55.188)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (41:01.109)
It just it just makes no sense. I was just like, What?

Wendy (41:03.272)
Wait, it didn't make sense. It didn't make sense. And what didn't make sense is that Steven was like standing on I will not speak to Allie unless Cole is present. I mean Casey, I w I will not speak to Casey unless Cole is present because I have nothing to prove that this is what actually happened. I'm like, the only people that speak like that are people that are guilty. Like I it if you've n if you've never done if you've

Kelli (41:12.182)
Casey. Right.

Kelli (41:27.723)
Yes.

Wendy (41:31.92)
If you've not done any of these things, would you ever say that? Like those aren't words that people say that are innocent, like of something.

Kelli (41:39.519)
No, and then he goes on to say that he's never talked about this rumor. He never discussed what Allie McBee said with any of anybody. He with Casey, with Cole, with Jesse. He's never talking. He so he never even said to Jesse, like, why is your wife going around saying that Cole needs to be worried about my relationship with his wife? Cause that's where I would start. I mean, I would go right to Allie and be like, why would you say that?

Wendy (41:44.979)
Right.

Lori (42:00.768)
Yeah Hell yeah

Wendy (42:04.476)
He said he said he talked to Cole 'cause Ali said to Stephen if he talked to Cole about it, and he said yes, and he thought it was dumb.

Kelli (42:12.709)
I didn't I missed that. Okay, okay.

Lori (42:13.759)
Yeah, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah.

Wendy (42:15.58)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Allie said, So who started the rumor? And he said Allie McVee. That's when he said it was Allie McVee. And Allie's like, Well, did you talk to Jesse about that comment? He said, No. But he did talk to Cole.

Kelli (42:25.824)
Right. And she says where there's smoke there's fire and where the F did this rumor come from?

Lori (42:31.723)
And you can tell by her body language. You see how she kind of like folded up into herself? You can tell by her body language that she's like, What the fuck am I doing? Like who who is this man? That was her body language. Cause it's very bizarre.

Wendy (42:31.923)
Right.

Kelli (42:44.842)
Yeah, for sure.

Wendy (42:52.2)
Yeah. Because what he does yeah. It's bizarre. What he does say is that, you know, Cole and Casey live up on the farm and I live up on the farm. So I would stop by there all the time. I would see Blair. So of course we had a different relationship. Casey and I have a different relationship than I do with Allie because Allie's Jesse is not around as much. So he thinks it's because Allie is jealous. There's no way Allie would be jealous. She's got her own shit going on. She's not gonna be jealous.

of Casey's relationship with you. That makes zero, zero sense. Makes zero sense.

Lori (43:24.373)
Zero sense. Zero sense. So th so there's gotta be there's gotta be something because you put the two things together and you say to your Right, but you put the two things together and you say to yourself

Kelli (43:24.82)
Zero sense. Zero sense.

Kelli (43:32.896)
Well, he's probably lying.

Wendy (43:36.276)
Well, that's it.

Lori (43:40.755)
She's really uncomfortable around.

Kelli (43:45.046)
Casey.

Lori (43:45.92)
Right. And now he's saying that somebody said blah blah blah. So I don't know what it is, but there's more to the reason that Casey is uncomfortable around him than business.

Kelli (44:01.633)
Maybe he came on to her.

Lori (44:03.342)
Th some there there there but there's gotta be something.

Wendy (44:04.926)
think he did. I don't I I personally don't yeah. I think that there is something. I do think honestly, because last season, like we saw that Casey is the girl that shows up at the farm when they need help. Casey is the girl that's there. I've said it from the very beginning. Casey's relationship with Stephen Sr. He's she's the closest with him. And you could even see that when they were dropping him off, right?

Kelli (44:19.658)
Yeah.

Wendy (44:34.268)
I think that Stephen Jr., like they used to talk about it and shit. That's what he said. Like he used to talk about his dates with Casey. And Allie thought that that was inappropriate. Well, people could think that that's inappropriate, but if they're just friends, it's not inappropriate, right? And I could see I could see them talking about that. But what Allie said is, you know, if you and Casey have done nothing, then why don't you and Casey go say to Allie, why why did this

Why did you start this rumor? And the fact that that hasn't happened leads me to believe that Casey is not even aware of this, that this is something that Steven is coming up with. Because I think that she's acting weird towards him, because I think that he treats her differently in business. And that's where he's condescending to her. And she just shuts down. I think when they were just talking about, you know, everyday life and there wasn't a business involved. And

There wasn't money on the line, I think that they had a good relationship. And as soon as the business became a part of it, I think he turned t into a different person to Casey.

Lori (45:37.014)
okay. I see what you're saying.

Lori (45:43.296)
And she's like, What the fuck? Like you used to be so cool around me. We used to be friends. We used to talk about stuff. And now all of a sudden I'm doing trying to do this business thing and now you're just like a total dick to me, like you are to everybody else, instead of being how you always were. I see. Okay.

Wendy (45:47.684)
Right. Right.

Wendy (45:55.655)
Right.

Kelli (45:58.677)
And y 'cause you can tell like she kind of has no use for him. And that's probably why exactly what you just said. But when he brought that pot belly pig and she w she was like, I never said that I wanted a pony. Like you know what I mean? Like she's gotten like no use for him.

Wendy (46:11.228)
Right. Right. She

Yeah, no, you're you know, it's true. It's true. Like I definitely think that they had a close relationship and I do think I don't think you would.

Kelli (46:18.656)
Yeah.

I do wonder if he came on to her like drunk one night or something like that though. I hope not.

Lori (46:24.235)
Or some like something something weird. Like something I don't know. The but he's he has done or said something that has totally changed their relationship because the way that she acts towards him is she's highly uncomfortable around him and just wants nothing to do with it.

Wendy (46:35.945)
Kelli (46:45.099)
Yeah.

Yeah. Unless she's just really seen rage.

Lori (46:53.143)
I don't know, but you would think that she had seen that already.

Kelli (46:53.961)
Over something.

Yeah I don't

Wendy (46:57.342)
But not not towards her though.

Lori (46:59.543)
Well, maybe not towards her. Maybe it's maybe something happened that it came towards her and now she's like

Wendy (47:01.362)
You know, like I think that's what I'm saying. I think once the business got involved, I think once the tallow got involved, once there was money involved, I think Steven Jr. becomes a different person. I think he becomes a different person. And he wants to control the situation. And, you know, I don't know. But yeah, it is weird.

Lori (47:16.289)
Mm.

Lori (47:21.665)
Yeah, maybe. It just the whole thing was weird. The whole thing was weird.

Kelli (47:24.468)
Yeah, very strange. Well, he says he's not communicating with her without anybody else there, and Allie Eklund just thinks that this is crazy. She's like if nothing happened, then you guys should be able to talk about it.

Lori (47:35.923)
Absolutely. No. And it

Kelli (47:37.364)
And she ain't wrong. And that's basically where we leave off. And then next week we are gonna see them in Vegas. And we are gonna see them in Go Go Bars and the Thunder Down Under. And I'm here for all of it. The chicks, the guys, I'm here for all of it.

Wendy (47:39.133)
No, she's not.

Wendy (47:52.617)
Yeah, Jesse does go. But I you know what I don't like? They're trying to get Casey to get married in Vegas. She's like, I never said I was gonna get married in Vegas. Like that's so stupid. Why are they pushing that? Her family's not there.

Kelli (48:00.675)
yeah, that's no. Why would you exactly? She lives on a beautiful farm for crying out loud. She can have a you know, gor she could do whatever she you know, no. That's silly.

Lori (48:02.583)
Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know what's

Wendy (48:11.721)
Yeah.

Lori (48:15.819)
Yeah, so it'll be interesting to see how this develops because that whole thing was just weirder than weirder than weirder.

Kelli (48:22.602)
Yeah, it's it's taking a turn. The show is taking a turn, and of course it was only a matter of time. But but Steve there's always gotta be one rotten apple, man. And Steven Jr. is that rotten apple. I feel like he's gonna ruin this show. He's just I I don't know

Lori (48:34.186)
Is that Irana?

Wendy (48:39.464)
I'm s I'm so curious for next season. I really am serious because Steven Senior's getting out September eleventh. I mean, Masha, we get a whole different story from Steven Senior's podcast that he did with Chantel and what's her face. I don't know. Like

Kelli (48:58.932)
What did he say about his relationship with Masha?

Wendy (49:02.096)
He said that he he's probably gonna marry her and he's gonna get a lot of heat from it. yeah. And he doesn't yeah, and he doesn't want her filming without him there. He doesn't want Masha filming without him there. Which because he's watching it. He's watching it in prison. Stephen, when Steven Jr. was on Watch What Happens Live, he told Andy, he's like, I have no idea w how he got involved in that podcast or

'Cause I when I heard that podcast, I sent it to you. I was like, I cannot believe that these two girls got to do a podcast with an interview with Steven Senior in federal prison. Like, who are they?

Lori (49:41.773)
Right in federal prison.

Kelli (49:42.272)
Well, Sug Knight was doing a podcast while in jail. So it can be done.

Lori (49:45.493)
Right, right. Remember that.

Wendy (49:45.948)
I know he's Shug Knight. We're talking about Shug Knight.

Kelli (49:49.772)
But I'm just saying it can be done. Logistically, it can be done. It's not like it's against the law for him to do it. So their people.

Lori (49:49.783)
Right. I guess so.

Lori (49:55.948)
Right.

Wendy (49:55.976)
I'm not saying it's against the law, I'm just saying who are they? I'm just saying who are they?

Kelli (50:00.595)
I mean I don't know how I don't know how they got the interview. I mean they were probably the only smart ones to reach out to him. He probably would have said yes to anybody.

Lori (50:02.209)
I don't know.

Wendy (50:06.196)
Right.

Wendy (50:12.884)
Okay, well we're gonna try. We're gonna reach out to him.

Kelli (50:14.668)
I think the moment's gone, but we can try. We certainly can try.

Lori (50:15.437)
There you go.

Wendy (50:19.132)
You're I'm sure it's

Wendy (50:23.078)
Anyway, I'm here for season four because I'm telling you, whatever happens in this season is gonna be totally different next season once he's out of prison and Masha's unleashed with him by her side and he can finally film.

Kelli (50:35.148)
I mean, if he's gonna be supportive of Masha, that's gonna be wild with Galena.

Wendy (50:38.9)
He's gonna be marrying her. I think he's going to be marrying her.

Kelli (50:44.854)
Craziness. Craziness.

Wendy (50:44.904)
Yep. Yep. Yep.

Lori (50:46.551)
What a shit show. What a shitshow in a cowboy hat.

Kelli (50:51.114)
That's right. That's right. Well, thanks for watching and listening. please like, subscribe, share, and five star reviews if you will. Bye.

Wendy (50:51.664)
Ha

Lori (50:59.831)
Do all the things.

Wendy (51:03.797)
Bye.