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πŸ”₯ Private Jets, Dirty Rooms & Dirty Reads 😬 RHOA S17 E5 πŸ”₯

πŸ”₯ Private Jets, Dirty Rooms & Dirty Reads 😬 RHOA S17 E5 πŸ”₯

Send us Fan Mail πŸ”₯ Private Jets, Dirty Rooms & Dirty Reads 😬 RHOA S17 E5 πŸ”₯ πŸŽ™οΈ SUMMARY In RHOA Season 17 Episode 5: β€œDynasty Divas in Atlanta”, the ladies head to Dallas for a glamorous (and chaotic) girls tripβ€”but things spiral fast. Cynthia kicks things off with a β€œDynasty”-themed trip, though most of the women don’t quite understand the assignment. Tensions start brewing immediately on the private jet, where Pinky openly discusses her financial struggles, making the group uneasyβ€”e...

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In RHOA Season 17 Episode 5: β€œDynasty Divas in Atlanta”, the ladies head to Dallas for a glamorous (and chaotic) girls tripβ€”but things spiral fast.

Cynthia kicks things off with a β€œDynasty”-themed trip, though most of the women don’t quite understand the assignment. Tensions start brewing immediately on the private jet, where Pinky openly discusses her financial struggles, making the group uneasyβ€”especially Shamea, who’s worried about her own business. Meanwhile, Angela defends her financial losses, insisting she used her own money.

Once they arrive at the lavish La Casa De Fe, drama erupts over room assignments. Cynthia tries to be thoughtful, but Kelli and Shamea feel slighted after being placed in the less desirable pool houseβ€”which turns out to be dirty and poorly maintained. This fuels frustration, especially as Kelli opens up about her difficult divorce and custody issues.

At dinner, things EXPLODE. Angela and Pinky go head-to-head in a brutal argument filled with personal attacks about finances, relationships, and appearances. The rest of the group watches in shock as insults escalate to a full-blown verbal war.

Between financial accusations, friendship fractures, and messy living conditions, this girls trip is already off to a disastrous startβ€”with no resolution in sight.

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Kelli (00:01.207)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:04.418)
Wendy.

Kelli (00:06.305)
And tonight we're talking about Real Housewives of Atlanta, season 17, episode five, Dynasty Divas in Atlanta. But really they were in Texas, so whatever. But how to our call to action. Thank you for everyone who has subscribed and followed us. If you haven't, please go to YouTube and subscribe, follow us on Instagram and share the podcast and tell your friends. And we truly, truly appreciate it because we have.

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Wendy (00:38.862)
Thank you.

Kelli (00:40.526)
so the opening of this episode is like the opening of dynasty. Did you watch dynasty?

Wendy (00:46.488)
I did and I loved that. Like I was like, this is so cool.

Kelli (00:48.377)
Absolutely. It was such an iconic show. so we're there. It was a little confusing. Cynthia, I guess, met with Adrian Maloof and Phaedra, but they were kind of going back and forth for a minute. Yeah. Yeah. but when Cynthia was meeting with, Adrian Maloof and Phaedra, she said that they need the trip because they need to stop tripping and start having fun.

Wendy (01:04.471)
It was weird.

Kelli (01:17.633)
and I couldn't agree more. So they kind of made Adrienne aware of the beefs going on in the group. And then they cheers to big hair, big business, and big black cherries.

Wendy (01:18.136)
Yes, I totally agree.

Wendy (01:32.843)
my gosh, that, when, when Phaedra came up with the big black cherry, I almost fell over. She makes me laugh.

Kelli (01:39.469)
Yeah. She's very funny, Phaedra. She's very, very funny. And I gotta be honest with you, at the end of the episode, I'm like, I don't even know if Phaedra did, did Phaedra say Pinkie eats meat? I know she said she had a Jamaican restaurant that served me, but okay, that doesn't mean she ate the meat. Like, I'm so confused over this.

Wendy (01:44.321)
Yeah.

Wendy (02:02.85)
I don't think she did. I don't think she did. I think it was Kelly. I actually think it was Kelly. I think it was Kelly, but Shemeah repeated it.

Kelli (02:04.63)
I don't think she did either.

Yeah, but with that, still think that this... Right. I still think that this might be the stupidest fight we've ever had on HousewivesHistory.

Wendy (02:20.182)
I don't know, there's been a lot of dumb ones, but this is, yeah. What did you think of Adrienne? I thought Adrienne looked, I didn't like her hair color. I don't know that that's, I.

Kelli (02:20.685)
with that set. my God. This is up there.

Kelli (02:31.693)
I think there was a heavy filter on Adrian.

Wendy (02:36.32)
Is that what it was? Something just looked off to me. She didn't look like the Adrienne I knew.

Kelli (02:41.709)
face like almost looked blurred.

Wendy (02:44.982)
Yeah, maybe that was it. And the hair color just didn't match, like I think her skin tone, I don't know. I don't know, didn't, something wasn't right. I don't know what it was.

Kelli (02:53.623)
Yeah, I felt like there was a heavy filter.

which, you know, checks out with her.

Wendy (02:58.84)
could be.

Wendy (03:02.274)
And what about the fact that the ladies had no idea what dynasty was or what the dynasty theme was? they...

Kelli (03:07.957)
I mean, Shemeah does not know who Diane Carroll is, who played Dominique Devereaux. I mean, you don't know who Diane Carroll is, educate yourself. Like seriously educate yourself. Cause she was a fantastic actress. She was great on that show. I mean, I was blown away. Yeah, so some of them didn't really understand the assignment. However, I also think like,

Wendy (03:11.959)
I know.

I know.

Wendy (03:19.768)
Yeah.

Wendy (03:28.277)
Absolutely.

Kelli (03:35.769)
You're traveling from Atlanta to Texas. It's not a particularly long flight, but it's not. They flew private. You know how I feel about flying. I feel like comfort is of the utmost importance. So you don't really ask people to dress like dynasty to get on an airplane, is my personal opinion.

Wendy (03:42.67)
Well, they blew private.

Wendy (03:52.908)
Yes.

Wendy (03:58.508)
Yeah, I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't know. Was that the dress code for the plane ride or that was the dress code for the theme of the trip?

Kelli (04:07.883)
It was probably for the theme of the trip, but they were making it like when people were like when Shemeah showed up, they were like, well, she didn't understand the assignment. Well, she's getting on a plane. She wants to be comfortable.

Wendy (04:10.752)
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. Right. I don't know that I understood the assignment either, and I know what dynasty is.

Kelli (04:25.709)
Right. Well, they get on the PJ and they start holding hands and Pinky starts doing a prayer. I mean, she even asked for blessings for the wings of the airplane.

Wendy (04:36.748)
I know. How long you think that was? I really wonder.

Kelli (04:38.729)
I mean, that was a long prayer, but I'm scared to fly. So I would have sat there for as long as she wanted me to praying.

Kelli (04:50.425)
That was a long prayer though.

on the plane pinky starts talking about her bankruptcy. She has seven businesses She has too many assets to qualify for a seven which totally makes sense It like yeah, if you have any equity in any of those You can't she exceeds the debt limit to qualify for a 13 And then with the chapter 11 you have to show how you can pay the creditors back. It's like like a reorganization of your debt personally, but she doesn't pay herself

Wendy (05:05.261)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (05:23.609)
Personally is what she said But then how are you making like how are you making any money?

I guess she's not.

Wendy (05:35.788)
I don't know. I don't know. I really don't know, to be honest with you. I don't know.

Kelli (05:39.769)
What she said all made sense to me, but I'm like that but what but then what is the option? But I guess that's what her attorney's trying to figure out

Wendy (05:49.238)
Yeah, and I mean, her husband said that he would take care of it. So I don't know. don't, I, for someone, listen, I don't think filing bankruptcy is something that you should be ashamed of. I don't, I absolutely don't. Like, I think that it happens, right? But I don't think you should be throwing it around like that. So like willy nilly with like all these companies when your husband's already said he would take care of it.

Kelli (05:56.195)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:05.655)
No. No. Yeah.

Wendy (06:17.88)
Like, why does she keep talking about it? Like, I don't understand that.

Kelli (06:20.963)
I don't know. I don't know, but you know, we've thrown this around probably in text messages though, these people, like stop talking about it because this is honestly what got Teresa Giudice thrown in jail. What she was talking about, how she was talking about it. mean.

the bankruptcy fraud, everything stemmed from her talking about her finances on the show. But the bankruptcy, yeah, that's what started it. But then she's talking about the bankruptcy and they got committed of bankruptcy fraud because she was hiding assets. mean, the whole thing was a mess, but I agree with you. She's saying way too much, like stop talking.

Wendy (06:49.655)
and showing cash.

Wendy (07:06.22)
Yeah, I mean, I like that you're telling us what's going on in your life, but you told us once, do we need to hear about it every episode? You've already told every single person. You mentioned it at Pinky's event.

Kelli (07:19.319)
Right. It's like when Karen on the most recent reunion of Potomac told Wendy, like, you're saying too much. You're saying too much. And she's right.

Wendy (07:20.162)
Was it Pinky's event? Yeah, Pinky's event, yeah.

Wendy (07:28.972)
Right. Right. Yeah.

Kelli (07:34.776)
So, Shamia. Shamia says she can't relate because her biggest problem is trying to make it through the Chick-fil-A drive-through before they stop selling breakfast. Which, don't get me wrong, is very funny, but watch what you say, because your husband was, and maybe it was false, but your husband was already in the headlines saying your house was being foreclosed on. I mean, I think she was saying it because of the rum company.

Wendy (07:47.296)
But yeah.

Kelli (08:03.191)
And basically she was saying like that gives her cause for pause, but yeah. Yeah. You're going to want to.

Wendy (08:08.12)
She did say that. Yeah, she did.

I mean, yeah, she's going to want to be careful. And Angela said in her confessional, like, let's make it clear. I lost $2 million of my own money. Not that I used someone else's money. Like, that was my own money I lost. did that to stop the foreclosure of one of my properties. I'm right.

Kelli (08:32.473)
which is a very common thing to do. Like she didn't have any creditors. She probably filed for a 13 to stop the foreclosure. I don't know. It's a common thing to do though.

Wendy (08:47.19)
Right. I also was very distracted by Pinkie's earrings that she was wearing on the plane, how huge they were and how they were pulling down her earlobes. Did you notice that?

Kelli (08:56.739)
Yeah. Yeah, I hate heavy earrings like that. You're damaging your ears and you can't come back from that.

Wendy (09:00.736)
I do too. Yeah. And it's not attractive. It's not attractive.

Kelli (09:06.007)
No, it's not attractive at all. No, it's not. Kay Michelle says that she and her husband did not have a prenup and her husband doesn't have any social media. Did you think it was odd that she thought that it was suspect that her husband doesn't have any social media? And the rest of them are like, be happy.

Wendy (09:10.06)
Yeah, and

Wendy (09:27.2)
Yeah, I didn't get that she thought it was suspect. thought that she... I thought she was saying that all men cheat, don't trust men, and because he doesn't have social media, nobody can be DMing him because there's no way to get to him. No?

Kelli (09:43.449)
Yeah, maybe I misread it because I've read it the other way but

Wendy (09:47.776)
She said, he does not have social media, no one can contact him. So she knows that he's not cheating because she believes all men cheat.

I don't know. mean, my husband doesn't have any social. Yeah. My husband doesn't have any social media either, but that's because he just really wouldn't know how to do it. It's fine. It's fine. He doesn't need it.

Kelli (09:59.61)
Well, that's a shame that you believe that, okay, Michelle? That's a shame.

Kelli (10:14.009)
And my husband does but the things he posts are so fucking crazy and outlandish. I don't think it's desirable for anybody except me

He is an acquired taste.

Wendy (10:28.438)
And I don't think Lori's husband has social media either. Right? No.

Kelli (10:31.511)
No, no, he definitely does not know. There's a red carpet to the sprinter. And Cynthia says that they're gonna go to the house for the first night and have a nice peaceful dinner.

So they're in the Sprinter and somebody asked Drew about her dinner with Black and she says he had a time at Portia's dinner and he says to Kay Michelle, well you all are friends and Kay Michelle says I do not know that man. And then they flash back to the tea with Portia, Kay and Kelly and she's telling them that Black was in her DM.

Wendy (11:17.708)
And she showed it, she showed them.

Kelli (11:19.639)
She showed it, but it was like, keep doing your thing, girl, you sound great. But then, they flashed two Porsches dinner, and she did greet him on the phone, and she did say, it's so good to see you. Now, I only say that to somebody who I've met prior. It's so good to see you. Otherwise, I would say, it's so nice to meet you.

Wendy (11:50.7)
got when she said that that she hadn't seen him before even if it was on the phone because it was on the phone he wasn't there in person that's what I got from that and the DM that he sent her although he was talking about her music he gave her his number in the DM so I thought that was a little sus

Kelli (12:00.641)
Right.

Kelli (12:09.689)
Got it. Yeah.

Kelli (12:15.577)
I mean, listen, we don't know when these DMs are from either.

Wendy (12:20.394)
No, no we don't, we don't.

Kelli (12:22.989)
And Drew's, you know, she's maintaining that they're just friends. They're not, this isn't, even though he brought her two dozen long stem roses, he's not her boyfriend. So I don't, I'll be honest with you, I don't know about Kay Michelle. I liked her very much when she first came on in the beginning, but well, we'll get to it. We'll get to it.

Wendy (12:29.72)
Right.

Kelli (12:53.241)
I guess the Sprinter ride was far because Phager said they could have been in Dubai by now. It did seem like a long way. Well, they had to stop at a truck stop, so it must have been a long enough ride where they had to go to the bathroom. So that could have been a couple of hours.

Wendy (12:59.712)
It did seem like a long ride.

Wendy (13:10.414)
I know it was at least an hour. Because I saw two time stamps. There could have been more, but I only caught two. And I know it was at least an hour. I don't, you know. Yeah. So I wonder, did Cynthia get that private plane for the tequila?

Kelli (13:19.767)
Yeah, I mean Texas is a big state. I don't know where they flew in, but

Kelli (13:29.315)
She must have it was her. and maybe it was Adrian Maloof's.

Wendy (13:33.225)
I bet you that's what it was.

Kelli (13:35.777)
I mean, that woman definitely has a PJ or at least has access to.

Wendy (13:39.562)
Yeah, I bet you that's what it was because I mean, I love Cynthia and I listen to her all the time on a humble brag and she doesn't have much. I mean, she does okay, but she doesn't have PJ money. And if she did, she wouldn't spend it on PJ because that's, she's very, very practical, Cynthia.

Kelli (13:49.037)
Sure.

Kelli (13:55.926)
Exactly. I mean, maybe her boyfriend, because isn't he like a, like a famous singer?

Wendy (13:59.79)
No, he's, I mean, he's a singer. Yeah, but I don't think that he, I think he's kind of like her too. I don't think he's spending money on that kind of stuff. Yeah, don't think, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (14:08.983)
Yeah, conservative. Right, right, right, right. So was it called La Casa Le Fe? Is that what this place was called? De Fe, that's what I had written down and I thought I heard one of them say Le Fe and I was like, okay, so I changed it, De Fe. Okay, it looked amazing and this is what I love. Did you see that spread of food they had out?

Wendy (14:18.776)
Defe, La Casa Defe.

Wendy (14:33.067)
I sure did.

Kelli (14:35.233)
And the one thing I love about the Atlanta ladies and this, I hope nobody takes shade to this because I would eat that food and you know the ladies of Atlanta are eating that food. Like that food is not going to waste like these other knuckleheads on other franchises. These women are very smart and that was a beautiful spread of food and they're gonna eat it and that's what I love about them. Cause I would too.

Wendy (14:48.654)
100%.

Wendy (15:01.334)
Yes. Yeah, I agree. I agree.

Kelli (15:03.661)
That is no shade.

And then of course we get to the room designations.

which is always fun to watch on a Housewives franchise.

Wendy (15:20.436)
It really is. It's like, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

Kelli (15:20.665)
Ugh.

Kelli (15:25.771)
Yeah, so there's a main house, a tiny house that one person can stay in, and a pool house for two people. So she says that when she saw the pool house, she immediately thought of the two people who are always together and can't be separated, and that's Kelly and Shemeah. And then I forget her reason why she gave Pinky the tiny house, did she say?

Wendy (15:52.354)
Yeah, she did. She gave her the tiny house because it starts with, feel like Pinky, your energy gives me solitude. are a grown ass. So I thought the tiny house is perfect for you. I mean, I wouldn't be insulted by that. I honestly wouldn't be. I wouldn't.

Kelli (16:07.191)
Yeah, I think.

wouldn't be insulted and I would love to be by myself, quite honestly. I would have loved to be by myself and I would have loved to be in the pool house. I mean, I guess all these bedrooms have their own bathrooms in the main house, I would imagine. But I, like,

Wendy (16:26.703)
The main house had six bedrooms and five bathrooms.

Kelli (16:33.143)
Okay, so somebody's not getting a bathroom in their room. Like, I would just like a bathroom, like my own bathroom. Like, Pinky's setup was ideal, although I'm a scaredy cat and I might get scared to be alone, so I might like Kelly and Shemeah's arrangement better. Like, sharing a bathroom with one person, but just having your own space. That's what I thought. Yeah.

Wendy (16:47.853)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (16:53.186)
Well, no, there's two, they had two bathrooms. That house had, the pool house had two bedrooms, two and a half beds, so they must have had whatever, and two bathrooms, and a bunk bed situation.

Kelli (17:05.913)
I don't understand what they were so jacked up about.

Wendy (17:11.512)
I think because it was dirty, honestly. I think because it was dirty. mean, listen, the skeevy sheets and then the shower. I'm sorry. When I go to hotel, that skeeves me. It does. I'm sorry. A dirty room skeeves me.

Kelli (17:14.851)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:19.448)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:27.927)
Yeah, and this was like totally giving Potomac vibes with that Colorado house and like, know, I didn't want to go through that again.

Wendy (17:39.054)
don't know if I got Potomac vibes, but I mean, as soon as I saw the dirty sheets and I like, no, like, don't.

Kelli (17:48.429)
Yeah, I guess at least the plumbing was working.

Wendy (17:51.618)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:53.146)
Angela comes to visit Shemeah and Kelly and they basically tell her how pissed off they are and that frickin frack, Phaedra and Portia should be in the pool house. Cynthia would have never done that. There's no way. She would never put Portia in that pool house. And Kelly says, I'm telling Angela everything because you know she's going to run it right back to the big house and tell everybody what we said. And she did.

Wendy (18:11.362)
No, she wouldn't.

Wendy (18:18.885)
yes she is. that's what she's doing. She was right.

Kelli (18:22.187)
Shimbia calls Gerald and tells him she put us in the outhouse. And he says, I call you back in two minutes? And she's like, from your clean house? Mm-hmm.

Wendy (18:26.536)
Hahaha!

Wendy (18:31.534)
How about when in her confessional, she's mimicking Angela running back to the big house in Charles shoes and telling me exactly what he said. And then she's like, wait a second. No, his knees aren't that good. So she's got to do it slow.

was dying. I gotta slow down, Charles' big shoes.

Kelli (18:52.921)
That is so funny. man, that was great. So Pinky shows up to dinner first and Portia's there and Phaedra, right? That's who she was telling. She was telling them that she went to see Shemeah and Kelly and they didn't clean the house. So they're not getting dressed. They're not showering. They're not gonna go in those showers basically.

Wendy (18:58.67)
you

Wendy (19:10.222)
Porsche is talking to pinky. Yeah

Kelli (19:21.613)
so they're not trying to come to dinner. And, she told Portia that and then Phaedra showed up. And then Pinky said that Kay Michelle's skipping dinner too because her glam didn't show up. Now, I'm sorry. This was ridiculous. This totally changed things for me with Kay Michelle. First of all, we wind up seeing her this evening. She looked great. How?

Wendy (19:28.355)
Right.

Wendy (19:34.85)
That's ridiculous. I totally agree.

Kelli (19:51.854)
Vain are you? That you don't go to dinner because you're, do you think she just didn't go because Shemeah and Kelly weren't going?

Wendy (20:01.652)
No, no, because remember I called her out when she wouldn't she got more glam to the hospital. Who brings glam to the hospital? And you're like, yeah, because she wasn't going home. Like, you're just getting out of the right.

Kelli (20:09.911)
Yeah, right, because she was going to film. So she can't film without her glam, but then she wound up filming anyway. This changed things for me with Kay and Michelle, like for real. Pinky said, Kelly and Shemeah couldn't shower because it was dirty. That's when I said this was Potomac all over again. And Portia says, like someone should tell Cynthia.

So she'll get someone over there to do it and clean it. And apparently they did. Cynthia was sending over someone to clean the pool house. And in the meantime, Pinky was gonna give them her tiny house to sleep in for the night. And then she'll go stay with Kay Michelle. Who event, I totally agree. I thought that was very nice. And then Kay Michelle winds up over by Shemeah and Kelly with their big old bottle of whiskey.

Wendy (20:45.196)
Yes.

Wendy (20:55.128)
which I thought was very nice.

Wendy (21:05.91)
Right, and did you catch that they were cooking in the pool house? So the chefs were in the pool house, even though there was two kitchens in the main house.

Kelli (21:11.95)
Yeah.

Kelli (21:17.817)
I gotta be honest with you, I wouldn't have liked that. okay, so you put me in the pool house. I would have personally loved the pool house, because I'm a swimmer, and I would love to wake up first thing in the morning and go swimming in that pool. But yeah, that's an invasion of privacy. There's a huge kitchen in the big house, and then another one. Right, so plenty of room where you're not gonna be in anyone's way. In the pool house, you're right in their face.

Wendy (21:24.129)
Right.

Wendy (21:37.272)
There's two kitchens. Right.

Wendy (21:48.438)
And you're eating at the big house. So why the hell aren't you cooking at the big house? It didn't make any sense to me. It didn't make any sense to me. I was like, what is going on here?

Kelli (21:52.599)
Yeah, that was stupid. No.

Right. Right.

So then we go back to Kelly and Shamiah and Kay Michelle and Kelly starts crying and then her confessional she explains that her ex held a press conference and they were holding signs of her kids Like Yeah, like like trying to make it like, you know She's not allowing him to see her his children, but she said like it's not about him seeing the girls It's about him inconveniencing me

Wendy (22:15.288)
She said showing her children. I was like, what? Like pictures?

Kelli (22:29.953)
and he must not be signing off for these girls to film. And that is, yeah. And that's messing with her money. Now you're interfering with her money because for her to be a successful housewife, she's going to have to show that part of her life. And he is interfering with it.

Wendy (22:34.072)
Well, she said that. She said that.

Kelli (22:52.323)
guy seems like real douchebag.

Wendy (22:55.34)
Yeah, he does.

Kelli (22:57.849)
So now back at the big house, Pinky asks Cynthia if there was an intention on room assignments. And she said as soon as she saw the pool house, she thought of Kelly and Shemeah, Cynthia. That's what she said. And then that's when Angela repeats what they said about frickin' frack and they should have been in the pool house.

Wendy (23:13.986)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:21.23)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (23:22.773)
And Angela asked Pinky, do you think it was intentional? And Pinky was like, yeah, at first I did. I don't know where this went left. mean, Angela said that Pinky was bringing a sense of hostility and Pinky was like, no, I'm not.

So, but then we get on, Drew asks, Portia, have you talked to Kelly? And you know, she tries to make it as if her sending the flowers to Kelly on the opening day of Nana's Chicken and Waffles wasn't shady, it was a gesture. And Pinky asked Portia if she said Kelly slept with a married man because Kelly said shit about Portia. Yes, Pinky, I'm gonna answer that for you. That is exactly why Portia did what she did.

Wendy (23:59.575)
Right.

Kelli (24:10.039)
Yes, 100 % because she said she's sleeping with that woman's man, meaning, what was her name? Farrah. It Farrah was married to Simon.

Wendy (24:10.048)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (24:18.37)
And that's what she said as soon as she met her, when she met her for the first time at Shemeah's birthday party. Like that was her first interaction with her.

Kelli (24:26.615)
Yep. So yes, that is exactly why Portia did that. and Portia says, I want to move forward with Kelly. I like Kelly. Kelly likes me, but there's more to talk about in this group. And then she brings up Phaedra and Pinky and Drew was like, what? Like I forgot Drew wasn't.

Drew didn't witness a lot of what had happened.

Wendy (24:55.374)
because she had a respiratory infection, so she wasn't at the Pinkies event.

Kelli (25:00.855)
Yeah, so they kind of fill her in on what happened. And Pinky says that Angela said it was Shemeah. Phaedra's denying saying she ain't me. they keep showing the same two things. Shemeah's in the hot tub. Who's she in the hot tub with? Is Phaedra in the hot tub?

Wendy (25:29.294)
thought she was with Kelly. I thought she was talking to Kelly.

Kelli (25:32.932)
She was talking to Kelly, in the beginning of the season, Kelly goes to Shemeah's house. And that's where we learned that they are best friends now. And that's when that conversation took place where Kelly said, I saw her eat a steak a few weeks ago, right? But she says it in a way where it could have actually been a joke. that could have been a joke. so then you see Shemeah on the phone with Phaedra and that's when she says,

Wendy (25:39.329)
Right?

Wendy (25:53.537)
Right, right.

Kelli (26:01.931)
she owned a Jamaican restaurant and they had meat. Okay, that's not saying she ate meat, that's saying that she had a restaurant that served meat. But something happened in the hot tub and I can't, you kind of only see Shemeah, like I don't know who else was in the hot tub with her. That's what I mean, by the end of the episode I'm like, I'm so confused, I don't even know if Phaedra did say it. I know Shemeah said Phaedra said it, but maybe Shemeah thought Phaedra said it.

Wendy (26:04.075)
Right. Right.

Wendy (26:24.95)
Right, right.

Kelli (26:27.927)
Like, I don't think anybody's wrong here, I think it's like a bad game of telephone.

Wendy (26:32.834)
And but again, at this point, who cares? Like this is episode five and we are still talking about this. Episode five and we're still talking about this.

Kelli (26:35.385)
Not me.

Kelli (26:40.321)
I can't. I can't. I know.

Okay, so.

So now we're back with Kelly and she asks Kay Michelle how she's feeling about her new album. And Kay Michelle says that it's very different when you're doing country than R &B, the way they release the albums. Like they release a song every six to eight weeks and then they build on the momentum. So I guess it's just something she kind of has to learn.

So at this point, Cynthia walks over to the pool house and she says that they're working on the room to get cleaned and Cynthia says that Pinky said they were really mad and Shemeah says they were mad and I'm glad Shemeah said that because good for her for being honest.

Wendy (27:54.664)
I do not know why this keeps happening.

Kelli (27:58.36)
It's okay, I honestly just kept talking, but I'll repeat what I just said and then we'll bounce off of that. Cynthia walks over to the pool house and she says that they're working on getting the room cleaned. since Cynthia says to Kelly and Shemeah that Pinky said they were really mad and Shemeah says, are really mad. And I thought good for Shemeah because somebody else would have been like, it's okay, it's all right. And then you're making Pinky look bad.

Wendy (28:03.062)
Okay. Okay.

Wendy (28:27.734)
Right, right.

Kelli (28:28.601)
Then you're making it look like Pinkie's blowing something out of proportion where she's not because they were mad So I thought good on Chamea for acting like that, you know So Okay Back at the big house of Pinkie and Angela again. I don't know how this went so left Pinkie says she has no problem Angela and Pinkie star going at each other. I Can't understand a damn thing. They're saying at this point

Wendy (28:47.308)
Gosh.

Kelli (28:56.621)
I mean, I know they're shading the shit out of each other. I just can't understand it. And Angela says that Pinky is bothered by her and Pinky says, are no threat to me. Angela said, I'm not trying to come off as a threat, but you seem bothered by me. I don't think Pinky was bothered by her at all.

Wendy (29:15.0)
don't think she was either. I don't think she was either. do think

Kelli (29:15.371)
And this is what I don't wanna see, and I've said it before, I don't wanna see Angela now pulling Emily Simpson and start doing Phaedra and Portia's dirty work, because that is what it's looking like, and I don't like it.

Wendy (29:33.393)
I don't get that. I don't think Angela would do that. I don't think Angela's gonna do someone else's dirty work, to be honest with you. I got the impression when she first said to Pinky that you seem like hostile, I thought that she was just kind of saying to Pinky, you are the new girl here. Why are you bringing up all these issues? Because she was the one pointing out what was going on.

with Shemeah and Kelly over at the pool house. That's the impression I got. But then at this point, it all turns into money between those two. It's, you know, Pinky was calling Angela a bitch. So Pinky said, bitch is a term of endearment. I'm a bad bitch. So then she called herself a bitch. Angela said, a bad bitch who doesn't pay her bills. And then,

Kelli (30:11.949)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (30:27.779)
Mmm.

Wendy (30:28.822)
Pinky said, bitch, you can never touch the money that I have. And Angela said, well, I could throw a rock.

Kelli (30:33.337)
I mean, which is a ridiculous thing to say to Charles Oakley's wife. Ridiculous thing to say to Charles Oakley's wife.

Wendy (30:37.984)
Right, right, right. And she's like, I can throw a rock and hit 10 people you owe. And then Pinky's like, I have a multimillion dollar business. I have a lot of money. My husband is paid. Okay, well her husband's paid too. She's Charles Oakley. He's, know, he's Charles Oakley. And then she...

Kelli (30:57.121)
Right, right, you're the one keeps talking about your bankruptcy. I mean, when Angela called her Mr. Clean and Papa Smurf, I almost fell off my chair.

Wendy (31:02.676)
Yeah, yeah, it honestly.

Wendy (31:10.006)
Yep. she said, Angela said, well, I never canceled Christmas to my employees. And Pinky's like, what are you talking about? And then Pinky's like, what about, how much do you own your foreclosures? You're right. When she did call her Mr. Cleaner and Papa Smurf, I was like, boy. And then she went on about her, Pinky said, well, I know you owe someone some new veneers because that overbite you got's going on. I was like, what? What? Wait, what are we talking about now? It's like, what?

Kelli (31:36.996)
That's what I didn't like, because then they started going for their physical appearance. I don't like it. But then all of a sudden Pinky's like, I don't want to argue with you. And Angela says, well, you do come off as aggressive. And then that was it. She did. I'm sorry, and I know we're not supposed to say that, but she did.

Wendy (31:41.79)
Right!

Wendy (31:46.092)
I don't like it either.

Wendy (31:54.146)
She does.

Wendy (31:57.89)
She does. Yeah. No. Well, Angela said it. We didn't. Right. We're just agreeing with Angela. I am too. I am too.

Kelli (32:04.121)
Right. But I am a green mother. But it was wild. They did a total 180 and and now they're cool.

Wendy (32:18.551)
Now they're cool. And at the time they're doing this, that's when Kelly comes in, And Drew in her confessional said, in all my years, I've never seen someone pursue a walk-off and then do a reverse uno and sit back down.

Kelli (32:36.857)
So funny.

Wendy (33:39.839)
This is driving me crazy.

Kelli (33:44.218)
So then we end with Kay Michelle not sitting down. She goes back in the house and then eventually Shemeah, Pinky and Kelly follow her in there. Now I had to watch this on my DVR cause I had to watch it night of. I did not see any previews.

Wendy (33:58.899)
Yeah.

Wendy (34:08.543)
I didn't see any preview. I also watched it on the DVR because I watched it last night also.

Kelli (34:13.433)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (34:24.403)
Yeah, I don't know. And I don't even know. mean, at the end, when they were talking about, she's saying two broke bitches sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G. Angela says, we got million asset bitch, million assets, million. I was like, what are they talking about? then Pinky said to Angela, like, you take off your wig and your lashes, you look like a boy daemon.

Kelli (34:44.461)
It just, gets, it gets too much.

Wendy (34:52.199)
I mean, did anybody know what they were talking about?

Kelli (34:53.803)
Well, I think we said that because of what Angela called her Papa Smurf and Mr. Clean, you know.

Wendy (34:58.805)
Yeah, but is there somebody named Damon? mean, were we supposed to know what that reference was? I don't know. I was very confused.

Kelli (35:03.446)
I know.

Kelli (35:08.067)
I don't know.

Kelli (35:13.527)
Yeah, that banter got me very, I was like, I can't keep up. They were talking so fast. You know what it is? They're so damn quick with their shade. I can't keep up.

Wendy (35:27.989)
Yeah, and I don't know what they're talking about. I don't know what they're talking about. It's going right over our head. Like, okay.

Kelli (35:28.845)
I mean, God blessed him for it. Right. It's a lot. Right. Right. Exactly.

Wendy (35:41.021)
All right, I mean, I still like this show. Hopefully next week is a little bit better and we get to see some tequila tasting and this dinner. meanwhile, as they're fighting, they're still bringing out food. And we find out that this is a tasting menu for the big gala that they're having. So I'm looking forward to that.

Kelli (35:58.647)
Right, so maybe the gala is what they have to dress dynasty for.

Wendy (36:03.603)
The dynasty, right, hopefully. I don't know though. We'll have to wait and see.

Alright, so... It was. It was.

Kelli (36:10.649)
It was a great episode though, but you know, I mean, when they were just, when they just squashed it, I was like,

Kelli (36:21.337)
Okay, that's how we're doing it. All right. I mean they'll be shading each other next week, but

Wendy (36:21.866)
Yeah.

Wendy (36:25.417)
Yeah.

They absolutely will. And I just don't want to hear about the eating meat ever again. I think we've pretty much put that to bed. Yeah. Yeah, me. Nobody. Nobody cares.

Kelli (36:32.568)
No, I'm so over it. Like who cares? Who cares? But thank you for watching and listening and please subscribe and follow us on Insta and share. Thank you. Bye.