RHOBH Reunion Part 2: Kyle Breaks Down & Friendships EXPLODE 💥

Wendy (00:01.198)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.614)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:06.211)
And I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:09.004)
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Kelli (00:33.469)
Thank you.

Wendy (00:35.352)
Thank you. So I personally thought this part two was doo-doo. Like, I think we didn't even need it. Like, part one I thought was good and... You did?

Kelli (00:44.616)
I had such a different reaction.

I did. Now, let me preface this with saying that my son left on a trip. He went with his friends and their mom. There's parental supervision, but I was very emotional. I just don't like it when my kids go away. I miss them. That's all it was. I am like, wait until I say this on the podcast. I felt so bad for Kyle.

Lori (01:15.322)
You did?

Wendy (01:15.766)
last thing. I always feel bad for Kyle and it's I feel like I'm the only one.

Kelli (01:17.669)
It may be, maybe it was the vodka, cause I'm on a vodka kick this week, but honestly, and listen, I, I still think she said things about Dorit that she shouldn't have said. I still think she's angry and taking it out on Dorit. But when they were talking about the Mo and you can just tell.

She is so sad still that they are not together. And this is what I want to say. I want Kyle back and I, cause I'm going to wait it out, cause it's going to happen. It's going to take a little while, but Morgan was clearly a rebound, but Kyle is going to have her single hot girl moment. I don't know if it's going to be in the summertime or not. So I don't want to say hot girl summer.

And I wanna see it. I wanna see Kyle going on dates with people. And I think once she's at the point where she's okay with this divorce or separation, she's gonna show us it and I'm here for it. I felt very bad for her. I felt like I've been there. Obviously it wasn't a marriage. It wasn't as long as her marriage. But she's gonna come out of this, but she's still in it.

She is very much still in it. She does not want this separation. She wants her husband back. She wants her family unit back. That's what she wants.

Wendy (02:55.596)
Yeah, I mean, I agree with that 100%. I agree with that. But I have felt like that with Kyle the whole season. And I felt like

Kelli (03:04.507)
Maybe for me, I had to see it to like, feel more empathy for her to see the other side of her and Dorie. So maybe that's why I like this episode, maybe.

Wendy (03:12.856)
Yeah.

Wendy (03:16.418)
What was your impression of it, Laura? Your overall impression of this episode?

Wendy (03:23.598)
You get an audible sigh.

Lori (03:24.506)
I I know. definitely... Sorry. I mean, I just don't feel good. I'm trying not to throw up. Yeah. I definitely do feel bad for Kyle, but I... Look, they're all so dysfunctional. It's just a shit show from beginning to end with all of them. Yeah.

Kelli (03:27.111)
Where are you Amanda?

That was Amanda, not you.

Wendy (03:32.014)
Okay, okay

Kelli (03:49.469)
So are we. We're just not as rich as them.

Lori (03:53.922)
I guess. I guess. I don't know, but the writing's been on the wall for a long time. So like, you know, we'll eventually get to it in the reunion where, you know, I think Bose is just 100 % right. Like, don't wait to leave till somebody's death. That's like a kooky ass shit. just if, yeah. Listen.

Wendy (03:56.738)
Yeah.

Wendy (04:15.768)
yeah.

Kelli (04:17.148)
that.

Spot on.

Lori (04:24.598)
So you get divorced. If you were meant to be back together, you can get remarried. It's not, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so it's just, she needs to just cut the cord and move on and just, I think that's, to me, that's very sad that she would stay.

Kelli (04:30.355)
People in Hollywood do it all the time.

Lori (04:48.128)
and is expecting some kind of outcome that's not going to happen. And I don't know.

Kelli (04:56.465)
I also felt like.

Dory would not shut up for two seconds to let Kyle talk. And I do not normally feel that way. And of course, it's, people on social media say it all the time. And I'm like, I don't really see it that way. Well, this episode, went 100, and I don't know if it was editing. I tend to think not. She would just not, it's like shut up.

Lori (05:03.789)
no, she's, no, she's...

Lori (05:18.106)
Yeah, I don't think so.

Kelli (05:23.291)
So remember last week I said people were saying that Andy is over Dorit and so fed up with her and I was like, I didn't get that at all. I don't know if they had seen this episode for like this episode you could tell he was like, my God, enough. Like stop talking, let someone else talk.

Lori (05:40.056)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (05:41.678)
She is annoying and she's like honestly with every single question she was asked whether it was about Kyle or it was about Sutton or it was about Amanda she didn't answer the questions and she just kept going and going like a little chihuahua. She was the most annoying and I've been saying this all season I just don't like the way she behaves. I don't like the way she behaves.

Kelli (05:59.304)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:06.439)
I don't know if she's coming back. I don't know if they're gonna bring Dorit back. Kyle's definitely coming back. Has anybody listened to the interview with PK?

Lori (06:15.64)
I saw parts of it, I do want to watch that.

Wendy (06:18.072)
I didn't listen to it.

Kelli (06:18.777)
I haven't, I haven't, but I will. Listen, not that I'm defending him or would ever defend him in any way. I think he is probably a horrible, horrible person, especially now to face in divorce court. But I would like to just hear what he has to say. But I think it's all nonsense and BS, whatever he has to say.

Wendy (06:43.918)
Yeah, I agree with that. So we start out where we left off with Boz and Amanda, and Boz was talking about her business, that it was not failing and it was a different thing than Amanda's. She said yes, but she wasn't referring to, she was saying it wasn't the same thing. It was more of a philanthropic.

Kelli (06:57.949)
But she did say it loses money.

Wendy (07:09.216)
endeavor. She was doing it to help people. She wasn't doing it to make money. That wasn't the model of that. Right? That's that's what she was saying. I mean, she's right, right. Right. Right. Right. It was like she was probably charging a nominal fee to have these seminars where she could give people information to for them to be successful based on what she learned in doing it when she didn't have these resources available to her.

Kelli (07:13.299)
Right. Right.

Lori (07:15.192)
Right. Yeah. It's not her main focus. It's not her end all to be all in her business.

Kelli (07:22.717)
Whereas with Amanda, that is how she makes her money.

Lori (07:25.689)
Absolutely.

Wendy (07:39.17)
So she was doing it to help others. So then it comes up about Amanda's book. And Andy asked her if she finished her book on her cult. And she said, well, she just finished writing chapter six last week. then it comes up about her editor said something. And they all jumped on her. I thought you were self-publishing. She's like, well, even if you self-publish, you still have to hire an editor, which I think is probably correct. I mean, just because you're right. Right.

Kelli (08:04.955)
It has to be, it has to be true. I mean, it's punctuation, it's grammar, it's how it flows, it's everything.

Lori (08:06.37)
Yeah. So.

Wendy (08:10.606)
It's everything, right?

Lori (08:10.882)
Yeah, everything. So this is what I don't understand about Amanda because I think that she is a smart woman. I don't understand why she cannot articulate what her business does. If she just said, the aim of my courses is to help women do A, B, and C by implementing A, B, and C, blah, blah, blah.

so that they can be financially independent. if you... It's more easy explained to Google her than she explains herself. So if you Google her... No! No. So let me just explain to you what Amanda does via Google's AI, and then you can tell me why she has had a whole season and she can't articulate this. So...

Kelli (08:51.109)
I thought she did in this episode. I thought she did say it. No?

Lori (09:08.962)
She focuses on the energetics of wealth, blending spiritual manifestation techniques with foundations for basic business strategies to foster psychological mindset shifts and practice entrepreneurial skills, therefore removing mental barriers to success. Some things that are worked on are money mentality, reframing,

Like people have limited beliefs from their past that dictate their current financial behaviors Like if you grew up really poor and you watched people do certain behaviors with money You can have a tendency to have limiting views on money and what money you can make right? self-worth and what you can charge a client for your services creating an energy to like Keep you from getting like burnout in you know

in the hustle kind of culture, making business and life decisions that are not based on fear, identifying profitable niches, digital course creation, how to automate sales, building a brand, email marketing, basic business structures, set up, scheduling, communication, problem solving. These are all things that she has tons and tons of courses on.

No, you didn't have to say it as wordy as I did, but I'm sure that she could have come up with all season... four sentences? That gave worth to what she did. I have never heard her say anything.

Wendy (10:45.198)
I feel like she did. I feel like she had a canned response. I feel like she had a canned response of what she does. I do manifests, like every time she would say the exact same thing and it was just like, she would say the exact same thing. People would hear wah, wah, wah, wah, the, because she just kept.

Lori (10:51.694)
But it was too canned.

Lori (10:56.804)
That's what I'm saying.

Kelli (10:58.034)
It's.

Lori (11:01.016)
Wah wah wah wah. Right, but she does-

Kelli (11:03.247)
It's almost like she expected them to just know. Like, listen, I am who I am, Amanda Francis, and this is what I do, and if you didn't know, then you should look it up and figure it out. Like, she didn't feel like she had to explain anything to anyone, and maybe that's what Bo's frustration was with her.

Lori (11:07.044)
To know! Right.

Wendy (11:08.877)
Right.

Lori (11:24.558)
Yeah, because she does do things that do have some value. It's not just all, let me sit down and think about money and it'll come to me. She does do what a lot of other people do and they can be very valuable things. A lot of people could use that kind of information. So I just don't understand why she, like you said, had all these little stupid canned responses and has never really...

Kelli (11:28.636)
Right.

Wendy (11:32.973)
Right.

Lori (11:51.362)
articulated fully what it is that she does. It's just bizarre to me.

Wendy (11:56.664)
Yeah.

Kelli (11:57.373)
Yeah, no, you're right.

Lori (11:59.48)
And I thought Erica was nasty though too. well, when to Amanda, when she was talking about having the editor, Erica was like, an editor? I thought you did self-editing. She was just like, I was like, yeah. She was like a little nasty when she answered her back. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Wendy (11:59.512)
So then Andy.

to him.

Kelli (12:14.439)
That must have been on Peacock, because I didn't see that.

Wendy (12:22.22)
I did watch Peacock this time on purpose because I missed stuff last time, so I did watch Peacock this time. It could have been.

Kelli (12:28.837)
I didn't, watched it, so I missed that whole part. Listen, Erica can be very biting when she wants to. And listen, she's not gonna think twice about doing it to Amanda, because Amanda's low man on the totem pole.

Lori (12:34.04)
Yes, she was like.

Wendy (12:34.357)
definitely.

Lori (12:38.901)
no.

Wendy (12:41.514)
Mm-hmm. So Andy asked Sutton if it wasn't hypocritical because a few years ago she did this deep dive into Erica's life. And Sutton's like, well, actually I read the LA Times and then Dorit jumps in and says, but Sutton, you were at my house and you were discussing it and you said you were gonna take Amanda's course. And Sutton said, yeah, I did. I was gonna sign up.

And she's like, I was going to have the expectation that I could make $500,000 a month. And she's like, I wanted to see how it worked, which she said that. And honestly, I don't think that's a bad idea. Sutton certainly has the money to take her course.

Kelli (13:18.589)
is a bad idea either. She's going to pay for it, right? And then this way she can see for herself exactly what it is and not just sit back and judge her for what you think it is.

Wendy (13:21.889)
Right, right. I'm not-

Lori (13:22.094)
Right.

Lori (13:26.073)
what it was.

Wendy (13:26.146)
Right.

Lori (13:29.594)
Right. But I didn't think it was very nice. I thought it was kind of insulting for Sutton to say, I just thought it would be funny to take one of her courses. Well, I think Amanda's laughing all the way to the bank. like, maybe it would be funny for Amanda to go to Sutton's store and buy something. It's the same thing. why? I just don't think that was really nice.

Kelli (13:41.723)
I agree with that.

Kelli (13:51.347)
All right. Yeah.

I agree. And then Dorit-

Wendy (13:57.996)
think that was nice either. Yeah. And because then she's because then it came out Dorit said that you said that she took out a two million dollar loan just before filming. And then Erica jumped in and said well I would like to take out a two million dollar loan and then they're going back and forth. Right. And then they're going back and forth and Amanda's like wait excuse me this is my package.

Kelli (14:17.171)
I like I wish I could

Wendy (14:24.46)
And then Kyle called that out. was like, M.J. Like, that's a first. That's seriously a first. Like, for a housewife to say.

Kelli (14:30.579)
Well, we just heard what reunion was it where somebody was like, what's a package? Giselle didn't have one. That's right. That's right. Because Giselle doesn't bring anything to the show.

Wendy (14:36.098)
Giselle didn't have one. Giselle didn't have a package. Right. And she's an OG.

Right, right. But Amanda wanted the focus right back on her. Now usually if-

Kelli (14:50.211)
But we never heard, like, did she admit to, she didn't admit to taking a $2 million loan. That's right, right. She didn't, you know, she didn't say that she did, so.

Lori (14:56.578)
I thought I heard her say, no, that's not true. I thought I heard her say that.

Kelli (15:07.131)
And we never heard, like Andy never even had the opportunity to...

You

Wendy (15:16.238)
That's what happens in these reunions is that somebody jumps in and then they get off track and then they try to get back on track and we never really get answers to the questions because then he said, like, what was your reaction to seeing Erica using chat GBT to describe you? And Amanda's like, well, I mean, it wasn't great because I know chat GBT pulls mostly from Reddit and Reddit has a lot of bad things written about us as housewives.

Kelli (15:18.321)
Yeah, it's frustrating.

Wendy (15:45.262)
They're like, well, it takes from everywhere. mean, Reddit does. Reddit has a lot of bad things written about everybody, to be quite honest with you.

Kelli (15:51.037)
But AI does take from everywhere, doesn't it?

Wendy (15:53.998)
It does, it does. And then Bo said, when Amanda asked ChatsGBT about you, it brought up that you had a short term tenure at your employers. And Bo said, if anyone knew what it was like to be a chief marketing officer, they would know that a short term tenure is not uncommon. You go in to complete a mission and then when you complete the mission, you move on. And Andy's like,

CMO job is not meant to be a long term job. And both said, well, it's intentions to be longer, but a lot of times, you know, the CMO is blamed on a company's failure or the stock plummet. So.

Lori (16:34.831)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (16:36.435)
It totally, what she said 100 % made sense. So for Andy to roll his eyes or whatever the hell he did, and then Wendy just sent us that video of her like calling him out on it and defending, what she said totally makes sense. Of course, that's who's gonna get blamed.

Wendy (16:36.972)
I was...

Wendy (16:41.549)
Yeah.

Wendy (16:48.876)
Yes.

Wendy (16:53.612)
Yes. Yes. And honestly, I like that she put that video out on her social media and to explain herself and to call him out. And to be quite honest with you, there's no reason Amanda couldn't have done the same thing to explain what it is she does, right?

Lori (16:54.756)
Yeah.

Lori (17:01.198)
Yeah

Lori (17:10.008)
That's why I'm saying, Gitch, she just needs to be, if she was just clear about it, I don't think everybody would look at her sideways.

Kelli (17:18.619)
I think Boz has a really good PR person who is, I think Boz is an incredibly smart woman herself and could probably figure this all out on her own, but she must have a really good PR team who is encouraging her to do certain things. And maybe Amanda doesn't. Maybe Amanda needs to look into who Boz is using for PR. Hire them.

Lori (17:23.011)
Yes.

Lori (17:27.61)
you

Lori (17:37.22)
Certainly.

Wendy (17:41.666)
Well, also to be honest with you, CMO is marketing NPR kind of go hand in hand. So that's, yeah.

Lori (17:41.978)
Absolutely.

Kelli (17:48.403)
That's what I'm saying. She could be doing all of this on her own. She could. But if she's not, whoever her team is, is doing a good job.

Lori (17:48.484)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (17:52.962)
I mean, I did watch her.

Yeah, I definitely think she has a good team, but I watched her show on brand with Jimmy Fallon. my gosh, was so good. And it was all about marketing and advertising and getting the brand's name out there and what the brand wants to represent. That's what she does. Like that's her thing. herself being her product, yeah, she's great at this. She's great at it. She really is.

Lori (18:03.126)
I never got to watch that yet, I wanna watch that.

Kelli (18:03.613)
down.

Wendy (18:26.094)
But then Kyle's like

Lori (18:26.546)
And I did like how she really pointed out that, you know, if we want to talk about something, let's talk about the disparity of women in the workforce, especially black women in the workforce. And she's right.

Kelli (18:41.235)
and doing the job she does. It's less than 1 % or 1%. Yeah, crazy.

Wendy (18:41.868)
Absolutely.

Lori (18:43.564)
Absolutely. Well, yeah.

Wendy (18:46.594)
Yeah. And the fact that although the number of women leaving the workforce, the black women leaving the workforce is growing exponentially, the women that are educating themselves in the fields is also growing exponentially. So it shouldn't be that disparaging these numbers. Like it shouldn't be that way. And those are things to talk about. She's absolutely right in that video.

And Kyle says, you know, why are we even doing this? Like, why aren't we supporting each other? And then Dorit jumps in again. I'm glad you... Yep. Now that you've opened that door, we should all be supporting each other's businesses. And then Kyle's like, well, what business did I not support? And then she just keeps going on. Even though Kyle's trying to say all the businesses she supported her with and all that she's done with her and...

Lori (19:19.066)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (19:19.411)
totally hijacked that conversation.

Wendy (19:39.576)
Dorit just kept jumping. Well, that was 10 years ago. What have you done in the last two years? And we all know, it was very well known that you and Kyle were not close the last two years. Why would she be supporting you? You weren't supporting her. You guys were fighting.

Kelli (19:54.654)
So I do think that sometimes Kyle contradicts herself with that. you know, we were friends, we weren't friends. Like I do think that she kinda contradicts herself with that a lot, Kyle.

Lori (20:03.236)
Right.

Lori (20:06.906)
absolutely, but they both do. Kyle's text was super nice to Amanda about not going. But again, right. Right, but then Dorit is being, you want Kyle to admit that you're not friends, but then why would you expect her to come to an event if you don't think she's your friend?

Kelli (20:16.089)
App- to- to Dorit, telling her she wasn't coming to the book? Yes!

Lori (20:36.922)
But then, cause they both do it. Again, to Kyle. What do you give a shit about what Dorit's doing if you don't like her and you're not her friend?

Kelli (20:48.837)
I think Dorit was more upset that Sutton and Erica didn't go thinking it was because of Kyle. And we didn't get there yet, but I think they're gonna show it where basically Dorit says Erica's like, Erica and Sutton are Kyle's minions. Which I don't necessarily think Kyle wants Erica and Sutton to do any dirty work for her. I think Erica and Sutton are happy to do it though.

Lori (20:53.912)
Absolutely. Yes.

Lori (21:03.194)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (21:16.408)
Yes, happy to do it though.

Wendy (21:20.024)
Well, I mean, even that text that Kyle sent to Dorit, Dorit's response was, you know, I get it, no worries, thank you. like she said she understood. So if that's not how she felt, then she shouldn't have said that. And Kyle said, so you were being fake until all of a sudden, bows got in your ear and then you changed your tune. And that is what happened. That is what happened.

Lori (21:43.864)
Definitely.

Kelli (21:44.019)
That's definitely what happened.

So yeah, either she just took a hard left when Bose was talking to her about it, or what Kyle said. Your response was bullshit. And the whole time you were typing it, you were like, that bitch, she's not coming.

Lori (22:03.406)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (22:04.758)
Right, right. And then Dorit goes into, I'm so sick and tired of you taking my relationship with Bose and Rachel. And she points to all three of them. She's talking to Kyle Sutton and Erica and.

Wendy (22:20.974)
Like Kyle's trying to respond and she's like, I'm gonna talk about our history. And then Dorit just keeps trying to over talk her like she doesn't even let her speak.

Kelli (22:31.283)
She would not let her talk. It was frustrating to watch. It was hard to watch.

Lori (22:35.0)
That was annoying.

Wendy (22:36.022)
Yeah, yeah. It really was hard to watch. And that's why I said I really, that's why I really didn't like this episode because I felt like it was the Dorit episode. It was just her over talking everybody. Cause even when it came to.

Lori (22:44.996)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (22:50.395)
It was like when Melissa and Teresa on that last reunion that we saw when they were just, neither one of them would let up. It's like, is not productive at all. It's not enjoyable to watch.

Lori (22:59.706)
Right. Dorit came on there only to respond. Not to have a conversation, not to listen, not to resolve. She just came to respond and that's it. And when you show up like that with that mindset, it's never going to go good. It's not effective communication at all.

Wendy (23:09.24)
she wasn't listening. Nope.

Kelli (23:18.257)
Right. Right. Not at all. Not at all.

Wendy (23:22.434)
That is 100 % right because when Andy asked what the intentions were, Kyle said, I hope that we can move forward. And Dorit did not have that same intention. She never had that intention. And she has not listened to a single thing anyone has said. She's just been trying to spew out what she wants to get out, regardless of what is asked to her. Because then the next thing that comes up is Andy said, you know, we are still on Amanda's segment.

when you saw what Amanda actually said, was the topic of conversation, what was your reaction because about the party with Rachel at Rachel's house about, you know, her son's the anniversary of her son's Dureet said, well, I think she had an opinion about something that I don't think it's fair for her to have an opinion about. Well, when they showed the clip, it wasn't anything like that. And Amanda said.

Lori (24:11.066)
No, no.

Wendy (24:12.802)
When I watched it, I was actually relieved because I thought to myself, like, maybe I forgot something that I said. And there was nothing that she said that was so horrible. It was a conversation that was going on. And Amanda just basically agreed with it. And she's allowed to have an opinion about something, whether you like it or not. She's allowed to have an opinion about something. And then Sutton said, yeah, but you did have an opinion, which she did. Amanda said, yes, but then you went and told Dorit, which is really what

Lori (24:18.873)
Mm-hmm.

No.

Lori (24:30.234)
Absolutely.

Wendy (24:42.594)
got it built up and said yes, but I told her and Dorit goes, yes, she did tell me.

And then she's like, yeah, because you wouldn't admit it. Amanda said, I think it's dragged on because you didn't believe that I didn't have any ill will, which is exactly what it was. You thought I was harboring ill will against you, so you just wouldn't let it go. And Rachel's like, well, the problem I had at my house was actually even before that conversation when she came in to announce her book and you made that comment that, she has a ghost writer and.

Lori (25:00.794)
Thanks

Wendy (25:18.112)
Amanda's like, you know, I apologize. I was wrong. you know, Rachel's like, well, you don't have to one up. And she's like, no, you're right. I didn't know. I'm sorry. And Rachel's like, I know that's why I'm telling you. So again, when you...

Lori (25:28.506)
Yeah, I thought that was really, really good of Rachel Zoe. I mean, she's a very smart one. And I love that she said that. She said, you know, like, that's why I'm telling you, because I know you weren't trying to one-up. I'm trying to help you out so that you can just be a little more aware of kind of, you know, how you're right, how you're coming across, you know.

Kelli (25:31.962)
Yep.

Wendy (25:33.761)
Yes.

Kelli (25:40.306)
Right.

Wendy (25:40.728)
Right.

Kelli (25:46.353)
how people are perceiving what you're saying.

Wendy (25:51.158)
Right. And I think that when you do point things like that out to Amanda, I think she does take that. I think she does take that. Unlike Dorit, who still, the reason it was such a big deal is because Dorit, you kept making it a big deal. You kept talking about it.

Lori (25:58.483)
yeah!

Lori (26:08.91)
And you know what the other problem was is that Amanda is not somebody I think to just bark back at you. I think that if Amanda was the type of person, if she initially barked back and set Dorit in her place quick, like, yeah, okay. And you know what I mean? But she didn't and Dorit is in such a chihuahua place that she just kept going with the bone.

Kelli (26:30.097)
Yeah.

Lori (26:38.382)
because Amanda didn't put her in her spot quick enough because she was in her own bad spot with her son and blah, blah, Plus she's just not that kind of confrontational person. She's just not that way.

Kelli (26:49.746)
Yeah.

Wendy (26:49.858)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:52.829)
I don't think Amanda was equipped to exactly. I don't think, right. And typically for the most part, like this isn't Jersey, it's not OC, we don't see a lot of fighting like we do on the other franchises. So when she joined the cast, she probably never thought she was gonna be the recipient or be involved in some kind of.

Lori (27:08.986)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (27:17.73)
altercation right away. Yeah. You know, Dorit was right. Dorit was like that dog that's on a leash that's pulling and pulling and pulling. She needed a good yank back and Amanda's not a yanker first off and was not in the headspace to yank.

Kelli (27:19.345)
Yeah, right. Verbal, but altercation nonetheless. Yeah.

Kelli (27:35.697)
wasn't in the headspace to do it. Yeah.

Wendy (27:36.372)
No, no, because then Andy said to Amanda, like, what's the biggest thing you learned this season? And she's like, you know, I actually like that this is not so scary. Like, I like all these people. Like these were, these are good women. They have good hearts. Like, I feel like, you know, I can be myself in this group. And I was like, okay. I don't know what that means.

Kelli (27:55.101)
trying to come back.

Lori (27:56.954)
Oh my god. I love-

Kelli (27:58.068)
She's like, no, I could do it. could do it. Give me another season.

Lori (28:01.262)
I love Jennifer Tilly is the best. Jennifer Tilly is the best. They show her because they go on break for lunch or whatever and they show her and she's showing up and she's like, it's a good day for a rumble. I love her.

Wendy (28:01.411)
Yeah.

Kelli (28:14.195)
Wait, I text you both last night when Kathy Hilton pulled up with the curlers in her hair, with the pillow. like, this is fucking Lori. This is Lori showing up anywhere.

Lori (28:20.022)
With her rollers, her pillow, her lunch, all her shit. Yes.

Wendy (28:28.696)
Yep, with the five bags, the curlers, I thought the exact same.

Lori (28:28.93)
Yes. The five bags, the acrylic. Now, if Cathy would have just like got out of the car and if she would have like left her glasses there.

Wendy (28:34.722)
Her lunch in her hand.

Kelli (28:36.403)
Ha

Lori (28:40.888)
and we had to go back with them before the train comes, then it would,

Kelli (28:41.341)
You. Right. my God, that's right. Right, right, right, right. That was so funny.

Wendy (28:46.934)
Yeah, that is so Lori. It's so true.

Lori (28:50.168)
And I love how Cathy thought Jennifer was all ready when she was in her combat boots and her little black dress. And Cathy was like, aren't you wearing jewelry? Jennifer was like, I'm not going in this.

Wendy (28:58.062)
Where's your jewelry?

Kelli (29:04.103)
Now I'm gonna go put my $60,000 dress on. I'll be right back.

Lori (29:07.107)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (29:09.836)
and all those flowers. my God, Kathy Hilton had so many flowers in her trailer. I mean, which is really sweet, but then when the day's over, I guess her help is gonna transfer them to her house.

Lori (29:12.186)
So many flowers for her birthday. Yes.

Lori (29:17.922)
Yeah, where'd they go? Bring them home? Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (29:22.065)
Maybe they get to bring them home.

Kelli (29:28.295)
Maybe they're there and then she gives them to all the people that helped her for the day. You know? I bet you that's what she does. Because she seems like the kind of person that would do that. Yes, yes, she does. Yeah.

Lori (29:32.632)
That would be nice.

Wendy (29:32.908)
That would be nice. That would be, I do think, I think Cathy's generous. Yeah. She is very generous. She's very generous.

Lori (29:41.548)
I could see her taking like her favorites home. I could see her dragging shit home, but giving the rest away.

Kelli (29:44.339)
And then letting everybody else, yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (29:49.25)
Yeah. So then they get out onto set and Jennifer's the first one out and Andy's like, my God, your hair, your dress, like, you know, and she does her little spin. And then she's trying to sit down. She's like, I need a slant board. was like, my God, that's so funny. And then even Kathy, when she gets out, she says to Kyle, like, is my hair too curly? And Kyle's like, well, run your fingers through it. She goes, yeah, because they told me I look like a country Western singer. Woo hoo.

Kelli (30:03.197)
Yeah.

Kelli (30:18.909)
She did, she did. She normally does at the reunions. But Cathy, like even the way she dresses at the reunions, between the hair and the dresses she wears, she normally does look like a country western singer.

Wendy (30:19.086)
She did. I like it. I like it. Yeah.

Lori (30:22.584)
like a country western singer sometimes.

Lori (30:33.722)
A little Dolly Parton look.

Wendy (30:35.572)
Yeah, yeah. And then Andy asked Jennifer if she brought any snacks and she said that she had some nerds and Kathy's like, well, I have mints. Of course she does.

Kelli (30:45.149)
Yeah. And tater tots.

Wendy (30:46.848)
Then when Andy asked, yeah, Taylor tells Andy S. Cathy about what the inspiration was for that dress. And she's like, well, the one I was going to wear didn't fit. I went on the Jell-O diet. That's the one that Oprah Winfrey and Michelle Obama and Kelly Clarkson went on. And they're all like, what? And she's like, yeah, you take it. You mix it with vinegar and baking soda.

Lori (30:47.94)
Tater time.

Kelli (30:59.377)
my God.

Kelli (31:05.138)
my god.

Lori (31:07.874)
I know what she's talking about and the problem with it is everybody wants you to pay them to find out the recipe of what it is. Because I do believe that it is a thing. It is like a real thing. And I think if you have the correct recipe and you do it right, I think it's effective for weight loss. But you just get to run around online and no one wants to pay for it. Yeah.

Wendy (31:30.83)
Well, it is Cathy Hilton. If she wanted the correct recipe, she would pay for it.

Kelli (31:32.689)
I

Lori (31:35.194)
Maybe, maybe not though. Yeah, you mix jello with jello with vinegar and just it's just a concoction. Yeah, it makes it like it's a whole concoction.

Kelli (31:35.251)
Do you have to eat jello? You have to eat jello all day?

Wendy (31:43.128)
Baking soda. Yeah.

And then she said that she lost two pounds the first day and then after that she was just all bloated. So nothing fit her.

Kelli (31:54.292)
I can't do all this. I'd rather just be overweight. I'm all right. My husband doesn't mind.

Wendy (31:58.88)
I know, just put on a Spanx and call it good. Who cares?

Kelli (32:03.059)
Exactly. Exactly. I'm all set.

Wendy (32:07.468)
All right, so then we start out with Kyle's package and Andy starts out with, we've seen the change in Kyle over the last 15 season from her kids leaving the nest to Mauricio getting his own place to Kyle finding love after Moe. Whether Kyle goes Brad or Angelina in the future, we all could agree she probably shouldn't go to Amanda's house anytime soon.

And then we see, you know, when she's being really vulnerable with Mo at Amanda's house and she's very emotional.

It was hard to see because it was hard when we saw it the first time. And then, yeah.

Lori (32:43.596)
Absolutely.

Kelli (32:47.047)
What I thought was interesting was Andy said something about Mo being unemotional. And I don't remember, was it him that asked or was it someone else that asked, was his?

Lori (32:59.63)
He asked it, Andy asked it.

Wendy (33:00.162)
It was him. It was emotional disconnect.

Kelli (33:01.135)
inability to show emotion, yeah, emotional disconnect, is that what led to the separation? And she said, So to me, Maurizio always kind of looked like he was, not an emotional guy, but I'm just saying, in tuned with her and her emotions, so I guess he wasn't.

Wendy (33:08.012)
Yes.

Lori (33:19.605)
And well, I think he was and then he got too big for his britches. And you know, she tried to say, she tried to say, you know, the thing in Amanda's house that, you know, I get it that when they first got there, Mo was looking at it from like a business standpoint because real estate is what he does. But I mean, you, you, you found out which way the wind was blowing. She told you, you had plenty of cues and you still did not care.

Kelli (33:23.974)
It does. Yeah.

Kelli (33:34.235)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (33:47.613)
Yes.

Lori (33:47.812)
You still didn't care. And you know, there's some things that like, she said like, you know, that she wasn't expecting to feel this way and that, you know, she thought that Mo got like a little uncomfortable and like, so God forbid Mo gets uncomfortable. I think there's still a lot of like some coddling going on there, you know? Yeah, so Andy was the one who asked, did the emotional disconnect contribute to?

Kelli (34:07.525)
Exactly. well.

Lori (34:17.114)
to follow your relationship.

Wendy (34:20.366)
Yeah, and she said yes.

Lori (34:20.834)
And I think that he's kind of a dick now. And I think that that kind of behavior to me makes me believe that he was always like that. Because you don't get separated from your wife. You're somewhere where you used to live, where you grew up and your family grew up there, and she's emotional, and you just say,

Kelli (34:25.65)
Wow.

Lori (34:49.601)
well shit changes.

That's, you know what I mean? Like.

Kelli (34:56.146)
Yeah.

Lori (34:58.574)
To me, it was just like, no, you're just a dick.

Kelli (34:59.463)
I think Mo had indiscretions a lot in their marriage and I think she turned a blind eye to it and finally she was like, you know what, this isn't gonna work for me anymore and he was like, okay. Where she thought if she said this isn't gonna work for me anymore, he'd be like, okay, I'm gonna stop.

Lori (35:09.562)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (35:15.736)
Well, I also think because when this first happened, was shortly after her very good friend died by suicide. And Mo was not there for her. He was not there for her. you know, her kids were younger. She was busy raising the kids. She was busy involved in their lives. And this is now all happening. All but Portia's, you know, Portia's still in high school at this point two years ago.

Kelli (35:24.145)
Yes.

Kelli (35:28.572)
Yes.

Wendy (35:45.888)
She's still home, but she's realizing that Mo isn't here for me emotionally. He's not here for me when I need him. I'm the one running the house. I'm doing the day to day. Yeah, he shows up on the vacations. Yeah, he comes in when he needs this. I don't even think it was so much about the cheating, because I honestly think if that was it, she would have just put up with it. It's that she realized at that point, after her friend died, I can't

continue this like this, not like that woman said, not being emotionally fulfilled by her husband any longer. I know, I know.

Kelli (36:17.245)
Yeah.

Kelli (36:23.559)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (36:25.102)
And you know what was really the center is when she was talking about how when they were on vacation in Aspen and they were out together and he was there with her and other people and he's like scanning the bar, hitting on chicks. that's not something, that's not how you behave in front of somebody that you're separated from if you're not a dick.

Wendy (36:53.723)
And Rachel was there and witnessed the whole thing and said it was horrible.

Lori (36:55.896)
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like you.

Wendy (37:01.398)
No, yeah, I agree. I do think, yeah, I do. think that he definitely, you know.

Lori (37:01.464)
You gotta be an asshole to behave that way.

Lori (37:09.036)
And I think he was always like that. And I think now the separation with a separation is done is given him the platform to just be honest about it. Just be flat out. I think this is probably his behavior that he would have done covertly. But now that they're separated, he can just be like, yeah, Kyle, you're standing right next to me and I'm scanning. I'm giving I am. Yeah, I just gave him the the opportunity to be honest about it.

Wendy (37:30.892)
Right, because we're separated.

Wendy (37:38.136)
Yeah. And then Andy brought up about Mo running into the Potomac girls, because it came up at the reunion at the Kemosabe. And Kyle said, yeah, she got some apologies. She got some DMs. She got text messages. yeah. So this was on Peacock. So yeah. She said she got, she spoke to Ashley in person when she was shooting the Ultimate Girls trip. And she said, basically, they were saying that they would never do anything. And Kyle said, well,

Kelli (37:48.947)
See, I didn't see this on, I didn't see this. This must've been just on Peacock.

Lori (37:51.866)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (38:07.022)
You really shouldn't be saying this to Mo. Like you shouldn't let him hear this because it's annoying. Like this just boosts his ego more. And then Kyle said, know, Kathy used to say to me, is it all right if I say it? And Kathy's like, yeah, you used to say to me, quit talking about how hot your husband is on TV. Kathy said, stop trying to make it happen. And that's how she feels. Yeah.

Lori (38:26.084)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. So there you go. So Kyle, maybe you created this monster a little bit. It's kind of like what Cathy was saying covertly.

Kelli (38:34.939)
Wow.

Wendy (38:35.608)
Yeah.

Wendy (38:39.074)
Yeah. And then, then Cathy being Cathy said like, like what next to Ken? And Andy's like, Andy goes, Ken Todd? And she goes, are you, he goes, are you comparing Mauricio to Ken Todd? And she's like, well, he's a good looking guy. And it just like, I was like, my gosh, this is ridiculous.

Lori (39:05.048)
Yeah, so Kathy Hilton was basically trying to say like, mean, yeah, Mo's good looking, but he's not like Ken.

Wendy (39:08.686)
What?

Right.

Kelli (39:13.981)
That's so funny!

Wendy (39:16.77)
So funny.

Wendy (39:20.622)
And then Kyle, oh, Kathy said, Andy asked Kathy why Kyle hasn't moved on? Like they've been separated for a few years. Like why do you think they're so slow to file? And Kathy said, well, I think maybe it's a little bit of denial. And Rachel jumped in. I mean, she's being honest. And Rachel's like, yeah, yeah. And Kyle said they had the conversation after Aspen recently and once.

Kelli (39:36.443)
I'm surprised she said that.

I'm glad she said it, but I was surprised she said it.

Wendy (39:49.154)
there's someone in either one of their lives, it's going to force their hand and then they'll do something. And that's when Bo's jumped in and she's absolutely right. Like that is not the time to do this because then that person is going to be like the bad guy. And Kyle's like, well, yeah, I want to blame. Yeah.

Lori (40:05.423)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (40:05.563)
Yeah, you're gonna blame the other person. Like, well, if so and so didn't come into their lives, we'd still be blah, blah, blah. No, that was sound advice that Boz gave her, very sound advice.

Wendy (40:10.999)
Right.

Lori (40:12.108)
Right. There still would have been a chance, whatever.

Wendy (40:13.687)
and chaos.

Wendy (40:18.166)
Yeah, and Kyle said, well, I'd rather blame somebody. And then she laughs and Bo's like, yeah, I'm with you on that, but, which I was glad she's like, all right, I got that, you know, but, this is what you guys really need to do. And she's absolutely right. Like you need to, you need to do this now. And she said that she's afraid that, you know, the relationship is going to change right now. They go to, they go to Colorado together. They go out to dinner, you know, he goes to his room, she goes to hers. They have coffee in the morning.

Kelli (40:27.666)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She's absolutely right.

Lori (40:34.136)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (40:47.406)
And once they're divorced, she doesn't think that's gonna happen. And it probably isn't gonna happen.

Lori (40:51.67)
No, but I mean, why would you rather, but why would you want to hang out in that in-between?

Kelli (40:57.523)
She's not ready to let go. Yup.

Wendy (40:58.114)
Because it's comfortable. It's comfortable and it's her family. It's her family.

Kelli (41:02.353)
As someone who does not like change, I get it. I get it. It's almost like he should file, he should force it. He should force it, she's never gonna do it, and she needs to. So he should force it because, but I have a feeling that like when they started talking about the agency, I bet you he's getting a little greedy, Mo.

Wendy (41:06.019)
Yeah.

Lori (41:17.444)
Yeah.

Lori (41:26.69)
Well, like we've talked about before, think there's a lot of mess there. There's a lot of mess there. There's all those PP loans that he messed around with. There's a lot going on there. He took out a lot for expansion. You know, he spread himself real thin when he did his big worldwide expansion with all these different offices. There's, there's going on there.

Kelli (41:27.228)
And he's probably.

Kelli (41:39.568)
Yeah.

Wendy (41:51.598)
Well, like Erica said, know, Kyle said half of the agency is mine and Erica's like, well, half the debt is yours too. And that's true. Yep.

Lori (41:59.577)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (42:00.18)
And she sure knows. She sure knows, yeah.

Lori (42:02.893)
Yep.

Wendy (42:05.122)
And then Cathy jumps in and said Sutton didn't get half. And Sutton's like, no, I got half the assets. And then Andy asked Sutton if her monthly payment has gone down. She's like, well, I don't get child support, but I still get spousal support. And the number, that $300,000 number didn't include child support because child support doesn't get taxed, which it just blew me away, honestly. Whoever her divorce attorney is, that's who Kyle needs to hire quick.

Lori (42:23.032)
Yeah, which we know.

Lori (42:33.014)
Yeah. yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. And how about Dorit asking, are you waiting for him to come back? And the pause, the pause that happened. Yes, she did. The pause that happened with Kyle told the whole story.

Wendy (42:34.402)
That's who she needs to Right?

Kelli (42:34.929)
For sure. For sure.

Kelli (42:45.917)
Yeah. Well, did she ask?

Wendy (42:51.158)
Yes she did. Yes she did.

Kelli (42:56.723)
That's what I'm saying. I felt really bad for her in that moment. Because I think she is.

Wendy (42:59.052)
Well, the thing with Dorita is she is so jealous of Kyle's separation with Mo. She's jealous of it because they are amicable. They are speaking. Finances is not an issue for them. They are in a different financial situation. I do.

Kelli (43:19.475)
See, I don't see it that way. I don't see Dorit being jealous of Kyle in any way, or form.

Lori (43:21.908)
You know what? see it. I see it. I see it. I see it both ways. I think it goes both ways. Wendy, I think you're right. But then I also think that in some ways, Kyle is a little jealous of Dorit's whole F-U.

Wendy (43:28.621)
You do?

Kelli (43:41.373)
She doesn't want to be with him anymore. She's ready to walk away. She's ready to walk away.

Lori (43:43.002)
doesn't want to be with him anymore, ready to walk away, ready to just call him out, say the shit, like, you know what I mean? So I think it goes both ways and that's part of the problem.

Kelli (43:54.312)
mean, let's face it, Kyle still has not on TV said that Moe has cheated on her. Like, she's still in some way protecting him.

Lori (44:03.099)
absolutely.

Wendy (44:04.684)
I think she's protecting herself.

Kelli (44:04.945)
And I'm sure that's more about her daughters than us as viewers, but still, she still is. mean, we've seen housewives go through a divorce and then have diarrhea of the mouth and tell us everything. And I think Kyle's gonna have that moment. So we're just gonna have to bide our time for a little bit. my God.

Lori (44:11.342)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (44:28.026)
How about Kathy answering her phone?

Wendy (44:31.508)
phone even ringing?

Lori (44:33.88)
Not on silent. Not on do not disturb.

Kelli (44:35.059)
She's like, hey, yeah, yeah, we're doing it.

Wendy (44:38.318)
I'm at the reunion.

And what I love most about it is that Andy didn't even skip a beat. Nobody acknowledged it. Didn't even happen. Didn't even happen.

Lori (44:45.626)
Nope, everybody just kept going. Everybody kept going. Yep, everybody's just like, OK, Cathy's doing her kooky Cathy shit.

Kelli (44:47.815)
Everybody just let it go. Yep.

Wendy (44:54.062)
And that's actually when Kyle was literally crying about she sees so much of her and Mo in Alexia and Jake's relationship and how she's worried that they're going to go down the same path. And she talks about how when she met Mo, they didn't have any money. And she's like, we can move to Colorado. You can be a ski instructor or whatever. And we can live this simple life. It doesn't matter.

Lori (45:24.25)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (45:25.032)
And she's like, social media is the worst thing for any relationship when you're in public. And she admitted that if she did choose that life and she didn't stay in LA, that this wouldn't be going on. And I think that there's probably a lot of truth to that because there's a lot of glimmer and glitz in LA. There's a lot of fakeness. You need money to live in LA. You need to have a lot of money.

Kelli (45:41.651)
Me too.

Lori (45:41.687)
I think so.

Lori (45:46.404)
Yeah.

Kelli (45:48.936)
Well, and let's face it, like, I don't know who said it, maybe it was Amanda, like, when he started the agency, Kyle was a Real Housewife. So had worked for Kathy's husband, Rick Hilton, at his real estate firm, and Mo was approached to start the agency with other people. Had he not been on the Real Housewives with Kyle, he probably wouldn't have gotten approached.

Lori (45:58.276)
Yeah, Amanda said it.

Wendy (46:02.541)
Right.

Kelli (46:16.177)
He was the face of it because he was on TV. If he weren't on TV, you're just another realtor.

Lori (46:19.578)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (46:20.066)
Right.

Lori (46:24.045)
Exactly.

Kelli (46:25.863)
So, know, yeah, I feel bad. I really did feel very bad for Kyle. You can just tell she doesn't want this. You can tell she's running, she's replaying the game in her head. Like, what could we have done differently to not end like this? Like, they really were a great couple.

Wendy (46:26.252)
Yeah.

Lori (46:53.88)
I don't know. That's why I think I'll just stay poor.

Kelli (46:56.647)
Me too. that. I mean, we want you to subscribe to our YouTube. Don't get me wrong, but.

Lori (46:57.818)
Just get it.

Lori (47:03.352)
Yeah. Yeah. And how about Jennifer Tilly's face when Andy was asking if Sutton thought she had a problem with alcohol? And she said, maybe. Jennifer Tilly was like...

Kelli (47:18.673)
Yeah. But I also think that when Sutton was drinking, I knew that was gonna happen. I also think that her too, just coming out of a divorce, trying to cope, I don't think Sutton has a drinking problem. I think she went through a phase where she may have had a... Right. Right.

Lori (47:32.952)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (47:42.098)
using it incorrectly to deal. You can use it incorrectly to deal without having an actual problem.

Kelli (47:53.512)
Right, but how about when Jennifer apologized to Sutton for what she said, did you see the look on Kyle's face? I'll tell you what, I couldn't stand Kyle and Dorit's facial expressions this whole reunion. Very annoying. They were like middle schoolers, both of them.

Lori (48:01.305)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (48:06.574)
Yes, very annoying. Very annoying. Very annoying. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And even the faces on Tillian Duret when Andy asks if the ladies have any thoughts about what happened between her and Avi. Did you catch that?

Kelli (48:26.769)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (48:32.305)
Yeah, but I thought that Jennifer, you know, I thought that that was very heartfelt what she said to Sutton, you know, and that she said, like, she's been there with me through, you know, very important parts of my life, whether they were good or bad. I thought it was nice that Jennifer addressed that. She wasn't even asked about it yet, and she took it upon herself to address it with Sutton directly. So I thought that that was great.

Lori (48:46.692)
to important parts of our life, Yeah.

Lori (49:00.952)
Yeah, that was nice.

Kelli (49:01.297)
I mean, I love Jennifer Tilly. She's just, and I've actually grown to love Cathy Hilton on the show too. Like they really are the perfect examples of what a friend of on these Housewives should be.

Lori (49:09.722)
comic relief.

Lori (49:15.598)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (49:18.312)
They're my two favorite. I would love to see them have their own like little spin-off and just do.

Kelli (49:22.931)
Could you imagine them doing like a Luan and sowing your crappy lake?

Lori (49:26.998)
forget it. The best.

Wendy (49:27.186)
Yeah. I just want to watch them travel. just honestly, I just want to watch them travel. I want to watch them go shopping.

Lori (49:31.822)
Yeah, I'd have fun just watching them travel. Yep, and travel. That'd be awesome.

Kelli (49:32.989)
Yeah. Yeah, we don't need to see them slum it.

Wendy (49:37.114)
No, I want to watch some travel.

Lori (49:37.934)
They could do whatever they want and it would be fun.

Kelli (49:42.706)
Yeah.

Kelli (49:48.935)
Yeah, I don't know. What was after Jennifer addressing Sutton? I didn't take notes, so.

Wendy (49:53.384)
So, so did we do Sutton Strack may have let Avi go. Did we do that?

Lori (50:00.315)
Yeah, and we were talking about the faces that Tilly and Dorit both made when Andy asked if the ladies have thoughts about what may have happened between her and Avi.

Wendy (50:09.82)
Well, listen, I thought that her answer about an employment termination, I thought that

Lori (50:15.31)
termination, right? And they both, and they both signed NDAs to not talk about what happened. So she's not going to talk about it.

Kelli (50:21.745)
Yeah, I mean, we're never gonna find out unless somebody down the road, when it doesn't even matter anymore, decides to tell us. And you know what? Who cares? He was her assistant. Like, yes, he was funny. Yes, they had a cute dynamic, but okay, we're good. But you know, it's interesting because Sutton too, like, I'm not a huge Sutton fan, as you all know, but what does she show us about her life? Nothing.

Wendy (50:22.77)
Right.

Lori (50:29.014)
Right. Who cares? Right.

Wendy (50:37.351)
Yeah.

Kelli (50:51.675)
We know nothing about our kids other than the youngest one just went away to school.

Wendy (50:56.071)
Well, because we couldn't know anything about her kids because the one that was home, but they were at school. I mean, we did meet her daughter. We did meet her daughter. And the other one, the other one was at school and the younger one wasn't allowed to be shown.

Kelli (50:58.835)
But aren't her two older ones like old enough now to like say

Kelli (51:06.919)
Yeah, one time we met her daughter. One time, yeah.

Kelli (51:13.029)
Yeah, so I guess all we have is our mom. Reba. We got Reba.

Wendy (51:17.435)
Yeah, so-

Lori (51:18.722)
And we did have the thing when she met with Jennifer and had lunch and how they were talking about, know, Christian and the annulment and how he's with some woman that they knew already and, you know, had gone to different things. There's a lot going on there.

Wendy (51:34.821)
Yeah, there's a lot going on there.

Kelli (51:36.817)
I wonder if we're gonna hear more about that next episode.

Lori (51:39.948)
It just got all lost in the Kyle and Doreen noise.

Kelli (51:43.294)
I totally agree, it's annoying. It's like when you would watch Jersey and it was all about Melissa and Teresa. It's like, nobody gives a shit anymore. Like I feel like that's where we're getting with Kyle and DeRite. Like, you know, are you team Kyle? Are you team DeRite? Actually, I don't really give a shit. About either one.

Lori (51:51.01)
Enough already. Right, enough.

Mm-hmm.

Lori (52:02.466)
About either one. No.

Wendy (52:03.725)
No, I know. I totally agree. I totally agree. You know, that's when Andy asked Sutton, actually he asked Dorit, that, you know, you and Sutton Strack were not in a good place. I thought that you and Sutton Brown, you know, were going to be okay. And Dorit said, well, initially we were, but then all of a sudden at Rachel's party, I saw it in her eyes. You saw what in her eyes?

Lori (52:27.938)
I know it's no, know. Nope, nope. I will tell you this. I know exactly what she's talking about. When they flash back to the clips, you can see she's got that look. She's got the, was, she was, I don't know if she had a little drinky winky. I don't know what happened, but she had that look. She got pissed when, when, when she went, yep. When you know, the focus was not her. She was trying to have that moment.

Kelli (52:28.575)
yeah!

Kelli (52:34.614)
I do too, yeah.

Wendy (52:49.925)
Rachel came over and took her away.

Lori (52:57.77)
And you could see that look in her eye and do know what Dorit was talking about.

Kelli (53:03.899)
I agree. I agree.

Wendy (53:07.143)
So then it came up about how Sutton didn't go to Dorit's book cover launch and Cathy said, let me ask you a question. You had a lot of friends there at that party. Do you really truly care that Sutton wasn't there? And honestly, I think Cathy was right. She said, but I showed up for her when she had her fashion show and Sutton shut that down. Well, you did show up for me, but you only showed up for me to bad mouth me as soon as you got the chance.

Lori (53:36.366)
Right in her confessional and Dory did blow off how she dissed Sutton in her confessional. She totally sideswiped that, blew that right off.

Kelli (53:37.117)
She was right.

Wendy (53:43.591)
Absolutely, because then Andy, Andy gives her a hypothetical about like, let's pretend like she went to your book sign, your book cover launch, and she said, this isn't even a good picture of her. How would you feel? that wouldn't be good. And Andy's like, well, it's the same thing. She's like, this is not the same thing. He goes, it's a hypothetical. She's like, it's not a good hypothetical. I'm like, it's...

Kelli (54:08.263)
He said, I'm giving you an analogy. And she said, well, it's not a good one. Yes, it was a good one. It was a perfect analogy. But we all know how these analogies land with housewives.

Lori (54:12.654)
Yeah, just she just, it was a good one, exactly. Yeah.

Wendy (54:12.892)
Yeah.

Wendy (54:17.615)
And that's ex-

But that's the thing with Dorit, this whole reunion, she didn't own anything. She didn't own her conflict with Sutton. She didn't own her conflict with Amanda. She didn't own it with Kyle. Like she hasn't owned, and she's not gonna own it when her and Erica finally like duke it out. She's not gonna own any part of it because you know, there is a little part where Erica starts going when they start talking about it. And where is it? Hold on.

Kelli (54:26.355)
Correct. Now.

Wendy (54:53.157)
okay so this is where to reset she said what really hurt me is when i saw you in erica you talking when you were not my show erica said

Wendy (55:06.903)
I couldn't go, I was very hurt. And Dorit's like, what were you very hurt by? Like everything Erica said, Dorit came back at her. Something you said to me at the table, why are you trying to save yourself? You're doing this to save yourself. And Andy said, well, Dorit said, you're coming after me to save your job on the show. Now we didn't see that exactly happen that way. So Dorit said, that's what hurt you? And Erica's like,

Kelli (55:28.027)
No, we didn't. No.

Lori (55:29.498)
Mm-mm.

Wendy (55:33.741)
you can call me a see you next Tuesday all day long. That didn't bother me. What bothered me most was that I just bared my soul about what happened to me with the DV stuff. I really put it out there and I see someone I love and she even said, meaning you, and you said that to me. I was like, no. And then she's like, well, Erica, you have to understand my point. Erica's like, I do understand your point. And then Dorit said, let me speak. Well,

Erica was speaking, you were interrupting her!

Kelli (56:02.214)
No, she was... Yeah. That was the whole thing.

Lori (56:04.58)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (56:06.117)
Like she, right. So Eric is like, okay, first off, don't, in the way that she says it, don't talk to me like that. You're talking over me. Let me finish how I feel. Dorit said, okay, finish. Like she had to get the last word in every single time. It was like talking to a four year old. Seriously, it was annoying.

Lori (56:27.342)
single time.

Wendy (56:34.534)
And then Erica's like, this is exactly why I'm in this position. This is why I feel the way I do. And Doris is like, will you unleash on me what was it that made you explode like that? She's like, I told you, I effing lost it when you said Bogues was the only one that supported you, like more than anybody in this group. And she did say that.

Kelli (56:54.385)
And then Dorit said again, like, I don't know what, apologize for what. She just told you. She just, she literally just said the words.

Wendy (56:54.735)
And then it.

Wendy (57:00.345)
Right. Right.

Wendy (57:06.277)
Right. And Andy said, she's saying that how it made her feel. Dorit said, yes, I know Andy.

Kelli (57:14.904)
She was I don't I don't I really don't know if she's coming back Andy might be like

Wendy (57:15.249)
She said, well.

I mean, she wouldn't apologize. She doesn't think that there's anything to apologize for.

Kelli (57:25.115)
No, out of everyone sitting there, Erica, I felt, deserved an apology from Dorit the most. We're not gonna see it with Kyle, we'll never see it with Sutton. Amanda, probably not. But Erica deserved an apology from Dorit, I thought.

Wendy (57:39.813)
Erica.

Wendy (57:45.179)
Yeah, but again, she wasn't even hearing her.

Kelli (57:49.553)
Nope, no. She's getting very hard, Dorit. Like she's, the walls are getting higher and higher and thicker and thicker. And I understand you're going through a divorce and I think everybody is giving you grace for that and empathizing, but you can't just keep acting like this. Erika had her season. mean, she got, if Dorit comes back next year and does what Erika does,

Lori (57:54.511)
Yes.

Lori (57:59.512)
Higher and higher, yeah. It's not a good way to be.

Kelli (58:19.737)
Okay, but I don't think we'll ever see that side of Dorit. I don't think Dorit will ever have a redemption season. I don't think she can admit she's wrong, ever.

Lori (58:23.695)
Hmm.

Lori (58:28.824)
Right. Who knows?

Wendy (58:31.867)
I guess we'll have to see what part three brings us, but honestly I was very disappointed in this one. I just thought it was just way too much of Dorit over talking everybody and arguing. And I felt like we didn't really get any resolution because she never had any intention to get resolution. She went in with the intention of not listening and that's exactly what she did.

Lori (58:46.318)
No, nothing.

Kelli (58:46.45)
now.

Lori (58:52.655)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (58:57.351)
So that's all we got for Beverly Hills. guess until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Lori (59:00.141)
All we got.

Lori (59:07.044)
Bye.

Kelli (59:07.315)
Bye.