In The City Kyle's Last Chance Marriage Tour

Kelli (00:01.012)
Hi, welcome to Be Wine whenever I'm Callie.

Lori (00:03.319)
And I'm Laurie.

Kelli (00:04.986)
And tonight we're talking about in the city season one, episode five, trolley off the tracks. before we get going, we just would like to ask you to please subscribe to our YouTube, follow us on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, all of the social media, give us five-star reviews, and share if you so desire, and share. And we appreciate everyone who has done that thus far. there's gonna be a lot of nos.

Lori (00:11.214)
Okay.

Lori (00:23.734)
If you so desire Yes, please.

Yes. Yes.

Kelli (00:33.924)
rubbing tonight because we're in Jersey and the pollen is off the hook. And we just went for a walk before we did this. So don't mind us. We're just gonna be scratching our noses. anywho, so we start out, Amanda's trying on one of her bathing suits. So Lori didn't watch Summer House. So throughout this I'm just gonna give you a little background. Amanda and Kyle are married, you know, going on no.

Lori (00:44.109)
Yes.

Lori (00:57.528)
Blah blah. Yep. Yep. I got that.

Kelli (00:59.604)
But at some point during their marriage, she decided to start a bathing suit line and she named her bathing suits after her friends. And the top that she happened to be wearing was Sierra's. Yeah. So you clearly know who Sierra is because you have a heartbeat and look at a computer. So you know who Sierra is. Lindsay brings her daughter Gemma to an indoor bike riding event.

Lori (01:09.494)
I saw that Sierra. I was laughing. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know enough. Yes.

Yes. Yes, I know all about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (01:27.722)
And it's like a balance bike, which they're super cute. And it's a brand deal for Lindsay. And Yvonne and Georgina meet her there with Georgina's kids. Lindsay points out that, you know, in the bottom corner of the screen they always put that she's an influencer. She would like to add MILF and Gemma's mom to that. I thought that was funny. Yeah, very funny.

Lori (01:50.617)
I like that. I thought that was funny. Yeah. And they're they're talking about, you know, having then their friend comes, right? Yvonne. And yeah, and then so she's talking about having they're talking about having like a mom hangover. I was like, dude, I remember those days. Mom hangover is the worst. And then I was thinking, my god, imagine being forty and being a mom.

Kelli (02:00.34)
Then Georgina, yeah.

Kelli (02:08.265)
Yes.

Kelli (02:11.849)
It's the worst.

Kelli (02:21.202)
No F and Y, man. No way.

Lori (02:22.4)
No, no, no, no, no.

Kelli (02:26.544)
I wouldn't even have a glass of wine until I love my wine, until my kids were in bed asleep. When they were th when they were those ages. Yeah. I mean Yvonne was the one talking about this and she doesn't have children at the time. So so you go ahead. But Geor yeah, 'cause Georgina said she had a hangover yesterday and her son pooped his pants and wanted to put the dirty diaper back on.

Lori (02:33.474)
Yeah. Those ages, right, right, right.

Lori (02:40.864)
And then right, right, right, right.

Lori (02:50.582)
Right. And I'm thinking, my

Yeah, and she put chocolate in it. That was great. I was like, You whatever you gotta do, girl, whatever you gotta do.

Kelli (02:59.272)
Sh I have told Wendy every episode we've recorded thus far that she is the breakout star of this show, Georgina, the dermatologist, for sure. Yvonne does announce that she and Nick are gonna start trying to get pregnant, so that's exciting for her. And she is pregnant. We so

Lori (03:08.076)
Yeah, she's she's funny. She's great.

Lori (03:17.868)
Yes, I saw that. I saw that social media post. Yes.

Kelli (03:20.626)
Yes, so she's pregnant, Danielle's pregnant, and I guess Lexi, Andrea's wife.

Lori (03:25.472)
Yes. Yeah, I think that's great.

Kelli (03:29.48)
Me too. That's exciting.

Lori (03:30.294)
I think it's super I think it's super nice for Lindsay too to have other people in her group have the same kind of experience going on.

Kelli (03:33.801)
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Especially because I really do like I really think they are clearly all friends. And this is what's gonna make a good reality TV show. Like Kenny and Kyle were friends. Kenny was an investor in lover boy. So we know that's facts. That's facts. Lindsay and Georgina, we know they were friends because she Lindsay went to her for her Botox and shit, you know? And and now they're mom friends. So it's like

Lori (03:45.11)
When they're all friends.

Lori (03:50.69)
Right, right.

Lori (03:58.531)
Right, right.

Kelli (04:01.916)
We knew they were friends with Andrea because he was on a season of Summer House. So this is what makes good reality TV. You can't just throw a bunch of strangers in and be like, okay, action. Right. So Kyle meets Kenny at Gotham, which I think is one of Gavin's other restaurants. Kyle got his teeth whitened, so he has to watch the sauces when he orders. I really need to do that.

Lori (04:12.46)
Yeah. Have at it. Yeah.

Lori (04:26.392)
Ajá.

Kelli (04:28.884)
But you know what? I drink red wine and and I drink coffee and I smoke sometimes. Like I just feel like if I do it, it's gonna be a waste of money. You know. Kenny brings up the conversation with Kyle where he talked about his relationship and he says the only takeaway was that Kenny said there's no spark. Like when it was relayed back to the other people. So Kyle says this is a biz

Lori (04:33.004)
Right, those are two hard ones. The hard ones.

Yeah.

Lori (04:50.892)
Right.

Kelli (04:54.046)
big misunderstanding and he's basically totally throwing Andrea under the bus.

Lori (04:59.608)
Well, I think also it's something that you weren't given the full context. Like when he says when you hear Kyle say that he was explaining it that he said enough spark for it to last, that's totally different than I'm worried about a spark. That th those are two totally different things. And then when you hear Kyle say that he only brought it up because he related to it, then it made it all the more of a reasonable

Kelli (05:03.764)
Right.

Kelli (05:16.254)
Right.

Lori (05:28.706)
type of conversation. I think you know, a little bit with Andrea too, it there's a language barrier there. And, you know, they kind of mess things up.

Kelli (05:30.526)
Right.

Kelli (05:36.796)
yeah.

yeah, there's definitely a language back.

Lori (05:42.346)
Yeah. So

Kelli (05:43.931)
so at this point Kyle h hijacks the conversation and talks starts talking about him and Amanda.

Lori (05:48.822)
Yeah. And I didn't realise 'cause like I didn't watch somewhere else, I didn't realise that Kyle and a man have been married ten years.

Kelli (05:55.349)
So they've been together for ten years. They've been married for four.

Lori (05:57.552)
together for ten years. okay, that's totally different. I thought he was saying they were married for ten years. I was good god, like you've been in this shit show for ten years? What are you crazy?

Kelli (06:07.156)
Well, but let me let me put something else in perspective for you. They've been together ten years. They've been married for four. And upon this separation, Kyle has announced that they haven't had sex in seven years. Now, would you marry someone that you have only been dating that you not only that you've been dating for six years and were only having sex for the first three? Would you marry someone you weren't even having sex with? No.

Lori (06:34.624)
No. Now

Kelli (06:36.532)
But the thing is, is that they started dating. So when the sh when Summer House started, Amanda was a booty call. She was a booty call. but then their relationship evolved. She became the girlfriend, eventually she became the fiance, then she became the wife. But would you marry someone you weren't having sex with? Like three years, that's you know, you're making a choice at this point.

Lori (06:43.266)
The side piece, I remember you saying. Yeah, booty colour.

Lori (07:05.218)
Yeah, that's that's bizarre. It's bizarre. That's bizarre. That's that's no kind of relationship. But I thought it was good advice that Kenny gave him, Kyle. Kinda like take this time to get to know yourself. 'Cause I think that he's just and this is only my observation just from watching the show, is that he's just he's kinda h I think he's hidden from himself. I think he's been very busy partying and

Kelli (07:06.886)
Mm-hmm. I totally agree with you.

Kelli (07:19.186)
Yeah.

Lori (07:34.539)
and just drinking and I think that he has I think he has a lot of stuff that he needs to work out for himself that he has not taken the time to do and he's just kind of br just brushed over everything with just partying and drinking and not growing up, you know. So I think in actuality that's probably really good advice for him.

Kelli (07:42.378)
Mm.

Kelli (07:59.411)
it's definitely good advice for him. But what

Lori (08:01.006)
'Cause it seems to me, watching the whole thing, that him and Amanda are neck and neck in fucked up didness.

Kelli (08:08.712)
Yes. Yes. I think that the their relationship has gotten so codependent. But but now it's like they're it's like their brother and sister living together. That's what it it's become. And that's it's great for your to be friends in your marriage, but not this codependent like I'm just with you because I couldn't handle not being with you. I couldn't handle living my life without being with you.

Lori (08:13.816)
Dysfunctional. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Lori (08:20.12)
Yeah.

Lori (08:27.864)
But that's on a marriage. Mm mm.

Lori (08:34.326)
Right.

Kelli (08:37.62)
But at this point, Kyle acknowledges that this is one last ditch effort to save their marriage. So he's acknowledging that. And to me, that's important because Wendy and I disagree on this very much. Wendy thinks that Kyle is just a Peter Pan and doesn't want to grow up. I think Kyle was a douchebag of a husband. And Amanda had every right to leave him. She did not have the right to move on with West, who is

her best friend's ex who effed the best friend over over and over and over again. I don't look at Kyle just as a Peter Pan. No, he's he was a horrible boyfriend, a horrible fiance. He cheated on her when they were engaged. He cheated on her when they were married. He's a jerk.

Lori (09:11.148)
Right. But like I said, I think

Right.

Lori (09:19.992)
Right. But this but this is the thing. She's just as much as of of a jerk because she stayed. She continues. She perpetuated. And I think she's a big hider too. I think she just likes to like live in in chaos and mess and get high all the time and not look at her life either. I think the two of them are f are hiding from themselves.

Kelli (09:27.614)
She stayed, absolutely.

Kelli (09:40.946)
Right. Right.

Kelli (09:45.215)
Yeah. Well, you know what though, i i say there they weren't on a show and there were no cameras. They wouldn't be where they are today. They probably would have separated a long time ago. Yeah.

Lori (09:52.609)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (09:57.911)
A long time ago, right. Right. Right. Yeah.

Kelli (10:01.844)
So now we're at Plinko with Yvonne, Nick, Danielle, and Owen. What they're the funnest stuff in the sin in the city. yeah, I've played Jenga. we have to play Jenga.

Lori (10:06.006)
Now how have you ever played Jenga?

I've never played Jenga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't played it. I was watching you know, when I was watching the show I was like, I never played Jenga. Yeah, it looked like a cute place with the games.

Kelli (10:19.742)
You know what one of the best things in therapy I've ever witnessed. I went to a therapy session with someone and it was a Jenga game, but there were questions written on every block. So every time you took a block out, you had to read the question and answer it. I mean, we could make that into a game not therapy related. Like we don't have to get that deep, you know. But isn't that a good idea? Yeah.

Lori (10:31.886)
Ooh.

Lori (10:35.784)
I like that.

Lori (10:40.736)
Right, right, right. Right, right. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, I like it.

Kelli (10:49.918)
So Yvonne is Lindsay's friend, but she says she never had beef with Danielle. She's always teamed Lindy Lindsay. And if Lindsay's moved past whatever her gig is with Danielle, then Yvonne can hang out with her. So Danielle's from Summerhouse, also. She hasn't been on the last few seasons. Lindsay and Danielle were very close. I'm gonna just give you a little bit of background. Danielle dated Carl, who's also from Summerhouse.

met Lindsay, then Lindsay dated Carl. But it was all good. It was all good. Like Danielle and Carl were l were like nothing. It was like a nothing burger, what they did. Carl and Lindsay eventually got engaged. Danielle, as Lindsay's friend, had a lot to say about how fast they were moving and when they planned their engagement party, they didn't include her and she had feelings about that. Like

Lori (11:23.949)
Right, right.

Lori (11:27.842)
Right, right.

Kelli (11:45.713)
She has kind of had a lot of negative things to say about Lindsay's choices over the past couple of years. So that's kind of where their beef is at. Yeah. So Nick asks how things are with Lindsay and Danielle says, I think we're good. I think we're tak you know, we're taking baby steps, but everything's good. And then we find out that Nick and Yvonne are not married in the states. So I guess they got married in Mexico but never filed for a marriage license.

Lori (11:53.591)
Right, right.

Lori (12:10.252)
Yeah, I saw that.

Lori (12:15.435)
Yeah, here. Yeah.

Kelli (12:18.966)
then Yvonne asks Owen if his divorce is finalized and he says no, but his soon to be ex lives in New York. and then Danielle says that a lot of people are talking shit and saying she's a homewrecker, and then she starts to cry. And even though it's not true, it's still hurtful.

Lori (12:38.498)
Well, this is the thing. And this it this is just the reality. I'm not saying whether it's right. But when you're dating someone who's still married, you run the risk of that being said about you. And and like I said, I'm not saying it's right, but you you do run the risk. We do find out later on in the episode a little more about her and why that word is such a trigger for her, which I

Kelli (12:52.253)
Yes.

Kelli (13:07.455)
Right.

Lori (13:08.302)
really made a lot more sense her behavior, you know, in regard all around that whole situation made a little more sense to me once she really explains it a little more. So we'll get to that. But you do run that risk.

Kelli (13:16.49)
Absolutely.

Kelli (13:22.524)
Yeah, and listen, you're on a show, you're on a show with people you're not on the best terms with, it's gonna come out.

Lori (13:30.282)
Right. It's gonna yeah, absolutely.

Kelli (13:34.236)
It's gonna come out. then Kenny and Whitney are jogging through the city. I don't know how people jog through the city, except when remember when we went to the reality awards and we were down by the water and people were jogging up and down that road. that

Lori (13:44.622)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (13:48.855)
Mm-hmm. Well, let me just say this. I don't know how anyone jogs ever, anywhere, anywhere, at any time. It it it makes no sense to me except for if you want to practice for when you need to really run away from someone. Right. Other than that, I I don't get the concept. I just don't get the whole nothing. Nothing. Yeah, we're walkers. Yeah.

Kelli (13:54.204)
In general? I know.

Ha

Kelli (14:07.858)
If somebody's chasing you.

Kelli (14:15.23)
We're walkers. We'll walk. We'll happily walk. so Kenny's trying to find his dad. They fell out of touch twenty-five years ago. As soon as he said he hired a PI, I'm like, it's gotta be Bodle. Please be Bo Deedle.

Lori (14:30.222)
Well, you know, I'm gonna tell you something about that situation. I thought that situation was a little efft. I mean when Kenny stopped going to see his dad, he was not an adult. And I think the dad really holds the responsibility of making more of an effort to make that work. I mean, if that was me.

And my kid, okay, decided he didn't want to come over for the summer to London. Even if I had a family, I'd be like, you know what? Sorry, fam, I'm gonna go to New York for a week and make sure that I keep a connection with my kid. So you know what I mean? Like that's not up to someone who's not an adult to to foster that relationship. Right. Right.

Kelli (15:11.325)
No, I totally agree with you.

Kelli (15:17.342)
Right. Like, okay, you don't want to come for the whole summer. No problem. Cause he was at you know, what do you say? He was like twelve thirteen. Like you know, he wanted to be with his friends. I'm sure there was a cute little girl involved.

Lori (15:24.31)
Right, right. Right. And he's pr it's probably a little it's probably it is probably a little shitty about it too, that his dad had a whole new family, I'm sure. But it it's the dad's responsibility to to foster that relationship. I just thought that was that I thought that was messed up.

Kelli (15:31.218)
Right. Right.

Kelli (15:39.924)
Totally. Yeah. And listen, you're right. Wherever he was, he could have taken one week out of every year and been like, I'm going to spend it with my son.

Lori (15:46.55)
Right. Right. Right. So I still thought that was messed up.

Kelli (15:50.761)
Yeah, totally agree. So he says, Kenny says that he feels like this may help repair his feelings of abandonment. And then like Lori said, that happened when he was like thirteen, fourteen years old. his mom gave him the choice not to go and he didn't go, and that was it. So and he does acknowledge that this could have an effect on his relationship issues. I'm sure that having a father that you have not seen in twenty five years would give you some abandonment issues. Yeah.

Lori (16:02.542)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (16:07.242)
Right.

Lori (16:18.062)
It's a mess yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Right.

Kelli (16:20.306)
What no matter the circumstances. It's just like after twenty five years, you're like, Holy shit, I haven't seen my father in twenty-five years. Like that's fucked up.

Lori (16:27.49)
Bye. Bye. Especially if you're starting to get into a relationship that you think could be serious, you know, it really you know, he lost his mom, so now he's like, Whoa you know, so it's understandable.

Kelli (16:38.547)
Yeah.

Yeah. So the PI calls. He located information on his dad through his stepbrother's son. So they're now searching in England and the US, and the PI says things move quickly. So we could probably have some information for you in a few days. so now we're heading out onto the trolley and Kyle and Amanda meet the group and they're gonna they're thinking they're going on a bar crawl, but really they're just going to pedal.

Lover boy anywhere and everywhere.

Lori (17:11.842)
Sure, but it but it's still it's still a bar crawl. It's still it's still a fun time. I wouldn't have a problem. And Amanda did seem to have a little bit of an attitude about it. And I feel like where she said about herself that she did she was gonna do a half ass is like a perfect description for her.

Kelli (17:15.368)
Yeah, sure.

Kelli (17:30.246)
Yeah, she's so busy, but she wants this relationship to work, so she's gonna be supportive.

Lori (17:33.612)
Yeah.

Right. She's so busy moving out. But now she could spend time with her husband on this trolley, but she's a little busy moving out. I was like, okay. Okay. Yeah.

Kelli (17:39.411)
Right, right.

Kelli (17:49.214)
Gavin wanted a party bus, not a trolley. I don't I feel like Gavin

Lori (17:51.767)
Yeah, what is his problem? I don't like him. I don't like him. He is very insecure and I feel like he's got some weird obsession with Kenny. He's weird. Real weird.

Kelli (17:58.239)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:02.532)
I think Gavin wanted to I think Gavin wanted to be like the breakout star of in the city. And I think that he's trying like he has seen, you know, he's been friends with them for a long time. Lindsay is a very big presence on a show. And I haven't always been a fan of Lindsay. I actually am right now, especially after her sit down with Amanda on Summer House The Aftermath. But

Lori (18:08.621)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (18:19.278)
Mm.

Kelli (18:28.978)
I haven't always been a big fan of her. She's a very big presence. And I think that Gavin is trying to follow in her footsteps to be like a breakout star. He's not, he doesn't have it. He doesn't have that star appeal. like I said, I believe Georgina does though. Could see that girl getting her own spinoff, but anyway. And then so Whitney says in her confessional and while she's talking to Kenny that Gavin pretty much called her boring last week.

Lori (18:37.858)
No, no, no, no. No.

Kelli (18:56.722)
And it's gonna be a little awkward for her to see him. I if I were if I were Whitney, I would have been furious when he said what he said to her. Exactly. Exactly. Georgina's at work and her kids are there and she's they're like pushing their faces up against the door. She's like, I'm so sorry, those are my kids. Yeah.

Lori (19:03.287)
yeah. That would have been like fuck off.

Lori (19:18.199)
It's a door. Uhhuh. It's great trying to take kids to work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (19:22.908)
So this is funny because she says she has a scrotox appointment and scrotox is to make the balls smooth, right?

Lori (19:29.448)
I s was laughing at this. I was like, my God.

Kelli (19:33.406)
Well, on the Valley, Zach went for Scrow Talks and I thought he said that I'm gonna have to ask Wendy. I thought he said that the Scrowtox was to make them look old and wrinkly. I'm like, who the fuck wants old and wrinkly balls? Like No. So I'm glad she's I'm glad she cleared that up for us, Georgina.

Lori (19:48.716)
No, I don't think it's to make look old and wrinkly.

Lori (19:54.679)
Yeah. Yeah. Something I really didn't need to know, but okay.

Kelli (19:58.187)
Well, just in case you and Jamie are or you and your lover, you know. Interested. so Kyle's asking his friends basically to go into these bars and ask them to carry lover boy. The first bar did not seem too interested. I don't.

Lori (20:03.318)
No, no, no, no.

Lori (20:15.084)
The poor bartender, I I'm sure it's I'm sure it's not even her decision. And everybody's standing there staring at her, like what if it really sucked? I was like, It's horrible.

Kelli (20:19.378)
Yeah, of course it's not.

Kelli (20:24.006)
Exactly. Well, the producer asked Gavin, Do you sell Loverboy in your bar? And he's like, Yeah, but they don't sell very well. I mean, that's it's not a good sign.

Lori (20:31.81)
Which is not a good sign. That's not a good sign. It's somebody you know ha carries it. And if the if they can't sell if somebody you know who owns restaurants and bars can't sell your shit. I don't know what's going on.

Kelli (20:43.528)
Right. I started watching Summer House during COVID. You know, it was one of the shows I binged. And once I learned about Loverboy, I looked into it. Because remember at then at that point you could literally just, you know, order alcohol because nobody was leaving their houses. It I wanna say it was like twenty five dollars for a four pack. I'm like, what? Like, no. 'Cause they're smaller they're thin cans.

Lori (20:59.042)
Right, right.

Lori (21:04.91)
What? Yeah. No. No, you Yeah, those those skinny ones, I saw it. Yeah. You better be rocking you better be rocking for that amount of money.

Kelli (21:13.278)
Yeah. So I never got it.

Exactly. So on the trolley, Gavin asks Kenny and Kyle if they've cleared things up and they say yes. And Andrea says he feels sorry if there was miscommunication. but Kenny should have dealt with it differently and Kenny agrees. they all it was, but listen, I didn't think he was super aggressive. But I always feel like since we're from Jersey and when these guys kinda act Jersey, we're like, But he's fine. Exactly. But whatever.

Lori (21:33.25)
Which is good. I thought that was good of him.

Lori (21:44.428)
Yeah, whatever. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (21:47.947)
the next venue was a liquor store, and they do get him to commit. Yeah. So back on the trolley, Lindsay says that she heard Danielle and Yvonne went on a double date. And Yvonne mentions that the group has discussed Owen's marriage. And Owen mentions the group text with Amanda and Kyle. Amanda's good friend Katie and her husband, I believe Matt. We haven't really seen

Lori (21:52.205)
Yeah, that's good.

Lori (22:13.068)
Yeah, Kitty and Matt. Yeah. They were it on it.

Kelli (22:15.72)
I don't think we've seen Matt at all and we've seen Katie once at Amanda's apartment when she was packing up, right?

Amanda says Katie has been one of her best friends since third grade. Now, side note on a group chat between Lori, me, Wendy, and cousin Gina, something we shared. Somebody from Amanda's high school, which is Hillsborough, New Jersey, hour away, wrote that Amanda was horrible during high school and this girl Katie. Like they were like the mean girls. They were like in a group of nine friends. They called themselves the nine.

Lori (22:49.76)
Kelli (22:53.802)
And they were horrible to people if you weren't in their clique. Now absolutely.

Lori (22:57.26)
I could s I could see that. I could see that. And Kyle was definitely a little tanked on the trolley.

Kelli (23:05.226)
Kyle's this is the thing. Kyle's always tanked. If there's drinking involved, Kyle has no threshold. He does not know how to handle his liquor. And this is why I don't blame her for like she doesn't want to go out with him. She does he gets sloppy. And then what? She's got to take care of him and get him home? No. Who would want to have a baby with a guy like that? Who would want to have sex with a guy like that? No.

Lori (23:15.789)
Right, right.

Lori (23:23.734)
Right, right. Right. Clean it up. Yeah, no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no.

Right, right. Yeah.

Kelli (23:34.792)
So this is it's you know, that's just what he does.

Lori (23:39.116)
Amanda did get a little nasty though. I was like, girl, you were talking about it. You were talking about it, so I don't know what your deal is. You know, like, whoa.

Kelli (23:42.288)
absolutely.

So Danielle and Amanda have like a weird kind of dynamic. They've had ebbs and flows. They're not they've never been super close, but on Summer House, like they either really got along or they were not getting along, you know. But Danielle's also very close with Katie, which is interesting. I guess once Amanda introduced them, they like became fast friends. And Danielle doesn't want Katie to be in the middle of the situation, but she was in the group text.

Lori (23:50.701)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (23:57.739)
Or they were not getting along. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lori (24:04.558)
Uh-huh.

Lori (24:16.148)
Right. Absolutely. So she's in the middle of it, absolutely.

Kelli (24:16.158)
With Amanda and Kyle. So she's in the middle of the situation. Yeah. So Amanda says that you know the group text wasn't the first time the four of them had a conversation. And Danielle's like, interesting. About my relationship. Okay. Like, right. And Danielle's like, I'm not in a group chat with anybody talking about your marriage, which I thought was a really good point.

Lori (24:31.894)
Right. Behind my back. Right. Okay. Yeah.

Lori (24:40.942)
Mm.

Kelli (24:42.578)
And Amanda's like, This is a conversation to have with KDMAP because they brought it to us. And

Lori (24:49.11)
Right, but don't act like you're not in. Don't act like you're

You're not participating.

Kelli (24:54.034)
Right. Right. And she's right. Like nobody I mean, listen, we're putting shit in that group chat with us and cousin Gino all the time 'cause we're like, look at this. Like that's what they were doing. Like, Danielle's a homewrecker, look at this. So Amanda does start acting like a toddler and starts yelling.

Lori (25:03.222)
Right. Right.

Lori (25:11.502)
Mm.

Kelli (25:13.506)
And she asks, why is your issue with us when Kate and Maddie brought it up? And Danielle does kind of blow her off. And Amanda says that she's always felt dismissed by Danielle and that she doesn't take her serious. And then when she has a problem with Kyle, Danielle always takes Kyle's side. And then they do flash back to Summer House where you see Kyle like th th this is who Kyle is. Like

Amanda wanted to start a bathing suit line and he's like, But I wanna be a DJ and guess what happened? Well, she did do her bathing suit line, but I don't think she does much with it. And now he's a DJ. Exactly.

Lori (25:48.6)
Well he did do DJ, right. Right, right.

Kelli (25:53.803)
you know, Kyle put it in the chat, but Amanda's like, he's not the one that brought it up in the first place. But she's just proving Danielle's point. Like you're perpetuating it by sharing it and talking about it, and now we're talking about it on the show and I liked how Kenny and Whitney just got off the trolley. They're like, We're not into it. Yeah.

Lori (26:03.372)
Yeah. Right. Right. Right.

Lori (26:12.494)
Yeah, they're like, Well, yeah, but not a toy, no who wants this.

Kelli (26:17.234)
And then Amanda very, you know, snarkily says, But isn't it true? And that's when Danielle's like, Yeah, I'm good on you.

Lori (26:24.172)
Right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she, you know, in her confessional she explains that it's a whole Latina thing. Like the whole maiden Manhattan, it's like you're always the mistress. So then it made more sense how how much it affected her. You know, it made a lot more sense after she kind of explained it like that.

Kelli (26:34.282)
Hm.

Kelli (26:45.978)
Yeah, like it was triggering to her. Right. You know, I d I never looked at it that way, but I I'm not a Latina woman, so why would I?

Lori (26:48.002)
Yeah.

No, right, yeah. But it makes sense. Right. Right. Right. But it definitely made, you know, her reaction made more sense.

Kelli (26:57.382)
Absolutely. Yeah. So thankfully the trolley ride's over now. And then Lindsay and Danielle meet up for pizza and so good. I love a hot honey pepperoni pizza. Yeah. Lindsay asked her if she was okay since the trolley ride and Danielle brings up the fact that it's very triggering. Yeah, as a Latina woman, yeah. So that's when that happened.

Lori (27:03.98)
Yes, thank God.

Lori (27:08.748)
The pizza looked really good on Monday. Looked really good.

It looked really good.

Lori (27:23.564)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (27:27.172)
no, sorry. That was when they got off the trolley. Now they go get pizza. I'm very tired. And Lindsey Danielle's like, Can I please come to your apartment? Because it looks beautiful. By the way, I have listen, God bless Lindsay because she has the nicest apartment out of all of them. That apartment is beautiful. So whatever brand deals she's getting is paying the bills. Yeah.

Lori (27:49.294)
She's doing well. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (27:54.089)
Lindsay's like, I'm hesitant because I don't know where we stand. And Danielle's like, I don't want you to think I'm not trying. And then Lindsay and her confessional is like, I do believe people can grow and mature. I've grown and matured, but I still have my guard up. and quite honestly, after the way Danielle acted with the engagement party, like i I don't blame her. She literally made it all about herself. She went to every she was pissed off because Carl

Planned an engagement on the beach and then he was bringing Lindsay back to a restaurant where all of their family was gonna be. And this was all happening in the Hamptons. Like normally nobody's there. He really put a lot of effort into it, and I believe he had Kyle help him, but Danielle was so jacked up that she wasn't involved in the planning. She went to every person at the party to complain that she wasn't involved in the planning. It's like that's it was really strange.

Lori (28:49.103)
yeah, see that's messed up.

Lori (28:53.516)
Yeah, that's yeah.

Kelli (28:53.544)
Really, really strange. Lindsay asks Danielle when Owen will be getting divorced, and she says it's just a matter of paperwork. And then Lindsay says that she was dating a guy who was separated for two years and they came home one night and his ex was sitting in the dark drinking wine. I would freak out.

Lori (29:12.236)
Yeah. Lindsay did seem like she was giving her a little bit of a a little bit of a hard time.

Kelli (29:18.792)
Yeah, well, that's probably because Danielle has given her a hard time, like about how fast she moved with Carl. And then when she was pregnant with Gemma, she's What do you mean you're moving in? You've only been dating him two months 'cause Lindsay got pregnant like pretty quick after meeting the father of her daughter. but Danielle says she doesn't want to put a timeline on anything, but she does want to get married and have kids, so

Lori (29:22.294)
Right, so right, right, right.

Right, right. I saw that. Yeah.

Right. Right.

Lori (29:40.717)
Yeah.

Kelli (29:41.94)
Then we see Kenny and Whitney are back at the apartment and the PI had given him two numbers to contact his dad. They tried both and they didn't get it, you know, it was like a wrong num you know, out of service.

Lori (29:53.869)
Right. All I have to say about this whole situation is Kenny needs his money back. 'Cause why didn't the PI give him the Facebook like they found that shit. Yeah, like on it. Yeah, like why d why Yeah, like why didn't you get him the Facebook? Why didn't you like she looked up the number? It's like how yeah, what it I was like, get your money back dude 'cause I don't know what's going on there. And then they finally

Kelli (29:59.604)
Yeah.

Sleuth Whitney got all everything he needed. Yeah, Bo Deedle, give Kenny his money back, Bo Deedle. Give him his money back.

Kelli (30:14.762)
Yeah, like how are you not finding people on social media?

Kelli (30:20.99)
Yeah. Yeah. So

Lori (30:23.7)
end up, you know, reaching the the father's wife and it was so nice because she says, we've been looking for you and you could just tell on Kenny's face it was just so sweet. It was really nice.

Kelli (30:34.888)
It was sweet, but I don't think Kenny's been in hiding. If they were really looking for him, I think they would have found him.

Lori (30:40.908)
Well, look z look how the world works. Kenny gave money to some guy and couldn't find him.

Kelli (30:48.712)
And he got bad phone numbers.

Lori (30:50.688)
Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So like you're talking about, you know, two sixty five, seventy year olds. You know? So

Kelli (30:59.09)
Yeah. Well, listen, I'm happy for Kenny, so I'll leave it there. I'm happy for him. You know, hopefully this this goes on to a good thing. So Amanda's moving out of the apartment. She had a full breakdown the night before, she says, and she does feel like it's a chapter closing, even though this is to save the relationship. So it looks like she was only taking one dog with her. Did you notice that?

Lori (31:23.906)
Yeah, she was trying to take him her own duck, yeah.

Kelli (31:26.9)
So she goes to say goodbye to Kyle. He looked like he was on a Zoom call, but he finally gets off. And Amanda asks him to this is what I can't stand. Amanda asks him to explain what happened last night, and he says he doesn't have any good justification. He's running from his problems. So he says, You go she said you went to a marathon, you don't come home until midnight, then you go back out and you come back in with a woman.

Lori (31:53.347)
Well, I think he brought several people back to the apartment, it sounded like. And and and a woman.

Kelli (31:57.237)
Well his she's like, What are you doing? And his only answer is I don't know.

Lori (32:02.412)
Yeah. Yeah. It was like what? I th I said I wrote down Kyle and Amanda are a hot mess. They're just a mess. The two of them are a mess.

Kelli (32:09.406)
Yeah.

Like and then he goes into how she smokes pot and okay, well you fucking drink until you fall asleep standing up in your kitchen. So I'd rather be with somebody who smokes weed every night to maybe chill out than somebody who's getting sloppy ass drunk and needs to be taken care of like a baby.

Lori (32:31.542)
Right. Yeah. I it's the best thing in the world that they're not together anymore because they're just they're just two messed up people in a messed up relationship.

Kelli (32:34.504)
Yeah, they're definitely a mast.

Kelli (32:43.55)
I mean his defense is well you knew it was Marathon Sunday. This guy sucks. He sucks. He's always sucked. I can't stand him. He is not it's not at the Teresa level. It's so fucking close though. I can't stand him. And so no, know, I know.

Lori (32:59.212)
Right. Yeah. I'm not a fan of her either though. I'm really not. I'm really not a fan of her either. She just she just seems like a mess too. Like they're just no good together.

Kelli (33:10.504)
Listen, if she were screwing anybody other than West Wilson right now, she'd be on top of the world. Cause nobody wanted to see her stay with Kyle. I agree with you, and and I know Wendy says the same thing. Like she was no peach in this marriage either. I get it. But she would be having her Ariana moment right now if she were not screwing West. She made a big, big mistake. my God, he's the worst.

Lori (33:24.566)
No. Yeah.

Lori (33:31.448)
With that clown. Big mistake, yeah, 'cause he's a clown. He's a clown. And I saw a thing where Lindsay did a big post on him, like 'cause I guess he's not going back to Summerhouse. Yeah. Yeah, and that's what she said in that thing. Yeah. So that was good.

Kelli (33:42.054)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And she brought on.

Yeah. And then supposedly, allegedly, he tried to get her, Carl, and Kyle fired. I don't know if that's true. I don't think he's got I don't think he's got that kind of pull. I think that's crazy to think that, but whatever.

Lori (33:58.047)
gonna fall for that, right? Right. Yeah. Who knows? So we shall see what happens next.

Kelli (34:05.908)
Do you like it though? 'Cause I know you're not a big Housewives fan, but do you like it? You don't love it.

Lori (34:11.886)
No. No.

Kelli (34:14.748)
I honestly just like the fact that they are actually friends. You know?

Lori (34:19.2)
Right. Yeah. It does seem I understand what you're saying about that whole concept of the people being friends on the reality TV show. It definitely does make a difference. It does make a difference. Right. Friendships, yeah.

Kelli (34:30.868)
Yeah, like look at how good Rhode Island was because they had established friendships. Jersey's gonna suck because they're taking these three people that don't know anybody and sticking them with, you know, whack job Teresa, you know, Screwy Louie, and then the rest of them. Jersey's gonna suck, you heard it here first.

Lori (34:49.216)
Yeah, how about how about how about Melania getting arrested? I so wonder if it had anything to do with Lou.

Kelli (34:54.002)
I know.

Well that's I mean, listen, allegedly it does. We don't know, but allegedly the call came from inside the house. So somebody was inside the house calling the cops because Melania was going at it with somebody. And I would imagine it's him.

Lori (34:59.362)
Yep. Allegedly it does, yeah, but allegedly. Right.

Lori (35:09.728)
Right. And then supposedly the other sister got involved, but yeah, I could see that.

Kelli (35:15.326)
But somebody put it in our group chat today with cousin Gina that this could also be a plot for a storyline for Teresa because she had nothing going on. She never has anything going on. And she took a fifty percent pay cut, so she had to do something. Yeah.

Lori (35:22.914)
absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, nothing. Right. So, yeah, who knows.

Lori (35:34.574)
Okay. So we shall see we shall see for next time.

Kelli (35:35.324)
Yeah, man.

Kelli (35:40.082)
All right, well thank you for listening and watching and please, you know, subscribe, follow, like, share. Thank you. Blah blah blah. Bye.

Lori (35:48.268)
And blah blah blah. Okay. Bye.