Winery Trip Turns MESSY 🍷 | RHORI Recap

Wendy (00:00.946)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.59)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:05.519)
And I'm Lore.

Wendy (00:08.081)
So we are talking about Real Housewives of Rhode Island, season one, episode number two, Ocean State of Affairs. I don't like that name.

Lori (00:18.076)
Well, it was about affairs, I guess, so kind of...

Wendy (00:20.91)
But I didn't like it.

Kelli (00:22.698)
Yeah, and the state of because everybody's denying that they had them.

Wendy (00:28.08)
Okay, but before we get into this episode, I'm gonna start doing this from the beginning, because I always ask everyone to subscribe and give us five star reviews at the end, but we're supposed to do the call to action in the beginning. So I am now doing our call to action. If you are watching us on YouTube, please hit subscribe. If you are listening to us on Apple Music or Apple Podcast or Spotify,

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Lori (00:59.056)
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Kelli (00:59.436)
And then we just pop up. Like we just pop up.

Wendy (01:02.49)
Yes. Yeah, then you don't have to look for us. We'll just, no, yeah, well. Okay, so I wanted to start with that. And thank you for listening to us, by the way. Someone from on.

Lori (01:04.465)
Pop off.

Kelli (01:06.114)
We pop off and we pop up.

Kelli (01:12.28)
Nice, nice. We never know what's coming when Wendy's like, I'm just, before we start, we're like,

Wendy (01:19.194)
Yeah, no. So one of our comments was from a lady in Ontario who thanked us for recapping this because she only has, what is it called? Hey do or hi? You know what I'm talking about. So yeah, yeah. So that's all they have in Ontario. So she didn't know a lot of this stuff and we were able to give her a lot of information. So for all our Ontario listeners, we are here for you. Just come, we'll be your source.

Kelli (01:30.626)
Hey you.

Lori (01:30.989)
hey dude. Yeah. Hey something. Hey. Yeah. I think so.

Kelli (01:33.762)
Hey you, H-A-Y-U.

Lori (01:46.374)
Good. Yes, thank you for listening.

Kelli (01:46.476)
and thank you for listening.

Wendy (01:48.474)
Yes, thank you for listening. Okay, so we start out with Liz and Jerry going over to Jerry's mother's house because we find out that Jerry's daughter, Liz's stepdaughter, Brianna, is 26 and she met this boy and now she's pregnant. And they're going to meet his parents at Jerry's parents' house. So it's gonna be a whole big thing.

Lori (02:10.629)
nice.

Wendy (02:17.874)
I'm here for it. I'm totally here for it. So we find it. Yes.

Lori (02:20.046)
yeah.

Kelli (02:21.774)
This is what I love about Liz though. Like, puts it all out there. Like, my stepdaughter met this guy, it was like quick. Like, then she was pregnant. was like, we all know people that this has happened to. And we love that, I just love that she's so open and honest about it. Like, yeah, of course the father's gonna be like, ah, ah, ah. But.

Lori (02:33.948)
Sure, yeah.

Lori (02:39.024)
Listen.

Right. But Rhode Island itself, this show, is going full, full Monty, full force. There's no ease into the episode. There's no, no, no, no, no, fast furious right away.

Kelli (02:49.752)
For sure, for sure.

Kelli (02:56.93)
Yeah. Yes. And we know that the kid's got fabulous teeth because, you know, Jerry's mom, Judy, said so. He's got fabulous teeth.

Wendy (02:59.036)
That's so true.

Lori (03:07.322)
Yes, she did. Fabulous teeth.

Wendy (03:07.984)
Yes, that's so funny. So Zach and Brianna show up and then shortly after that, his parents show up. But before that, we find out from Liz that when she met Jerry, he had three daughters, Brianna, Miranda, and Skyla. And they were little at the time and they wound up living with her and him full time.

because that was better for them than their biological mother. And we find out later that they were three years old or one of them was three years old. That's really young. mean, those are her children.

Lori (03:41.86)
Right. Yeah. Yeah. It is like, yes.

Kelli (03:45.038)
She just said it was more appropriate for the girls to be with them and not their biological mother. So one, I give her mad respect for leaving it at that, because personally I feel that that's very respectable, and I'm sure she's doing that for the girls. And two, I would imagine that whatever happened probably led to the divorce of Jerry and the biological mother, and then whatever.

Lori (03:55.67)
Absolutely. Very respectful.

Wendy (03:55.738)
Yes.

Wendy (04:07.12)
Right. Right. Yeah, and she said.

Lori (04:10.523)
And you know, to think about it, I mean, if you have three kids, okay, Wendy has three kids. But Wendy had one and then she had another one and then she had another one. That's like having triplets. You're three at once and they're in all different places because they're different ages. It's a lot. That was a lot. Yeah.

Kelli (04:22.476)
Right.

Kelli (04:25.975)
Right.

Kelli (04:31.406)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (04:32.498)
No, it's a lot. It's a lot.

Kelli (04:34.508)
Yeah, that's a lot to take on.

Wendy (04:38.074)
It's a lot, and I give her a lot of credit for that. I do. And she said she always wanted children, and she didn't expect that this is the way it would happen, but this is how it happened for her, and she's great with it. So good for her. Also, she doesn't want to be called grand anything or glam anything. Gigi. She's picked out her grandma name, and it's Gigi.

Kelli (04:49.302)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (05:00.397)
I like Gigi, she looks like a Gigi.

Kelli (05:02.766)
She does look like a GG.

Wendy (05:03.056)
Yeah, she does. She does. Then we see Joellen and Ashley go to the park with their kids. Okay, I don't know if you guys saw it, but I sent on TikTok Ashley a little bit of her history on The Bachelor. my gosh, I did not realize how much history she had. So she first went on The Bachelor, they said whatever season it was, and she went on as a virgin, which we...

find out later that she was 29 when she lost her virginity. But when she was on The Bachelor, was a... Yep. Yeah. And so then she was on The Bachelor and then she was on Bachelor in Paradise and then she met Jared, but then she didn't hit it off with Jared. And then she went on another Bachelor thing. And then she went on another Bachelor in Paradise thing.

Kelli (05:36.908)
Mic drop, mic drop moment. 29 mic drop moment.

Wendy (06:02.928)
and wound up losing the virginity to somebody there. And that's when Jared got wind of it and decided, I need Ashley back in my life. And then he went and got Ashley and they got married and have two kids.

Kelli (06:08.334)
Kelli (06:20.248)
So she's been with two people her whole life.

Wendy (06:20.998)
I was like, yep, yep.

That's impressive. I like her. really like Ashley. I like her. I do. I like that she's... Yeah.

Lori (06:29.371)
Yeah, I like her too. I like her a lot.

Kelli (06:32.344)
I like her too, I just don't know if she's cut out for housewives, but we'll see. She could very well grow into this.

Wendy (06:36.434)
think they need a nice one. I don't think that they all have to be mean. And I think she's the nice one.

Kelli (06:42.4)
No, think they... Yeah, for sure. They just don't go too hard on her because you're gonna break her.

Lori (06:48.377)
Right. I just think it's wild how it's like this brunette show. It's like six Dolores's.

Kelli (06:57.432)
Well, that's what Andy Cohen said. I did wind up watching half, I got through half of the watch what happens live with them all on there. But yes. who, Triz, Triz rants on TikTok. He cracks me up. That's the first thing he said. Yeah. Like there, it's like, it's like 50 shades of Dolores. Yeah.

Wendy (06:58.316)
my gosh.

Lori (07:10.939)
Yeah, I think he's the one who said it. Yeah, I think he's, that's where I got it from. He's the one who said it. Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

Wendy (07:19.334)
I think it was Ashley that was showing the cast photo to her kids and the kids were pointing out every one of them was their mom. I think it was Ashley. I was like, even the kids can't tell them apart. I thought that was hysterical.

Kelli (07:28.75)
Awwww... That's cute.

Lori (07:30.063)
That's great.

Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (07:34.338)
Well, especially Kelsey, Rosie, Ashley and Joellen. Cause they all have a similar hair color. They all have, you know, like they're the darker where Alicia and Liz are more light, lightened up a little bit.

Lori (07:43.738)
Yes.

Wendy (07:50.565)
Yes.

Yes, Alicia and Liz are, and their voices and their more stand out because I will be honest with you, when I was watching this episode, when we'd go from the scene to the confessional, I had to stop and think for a minute who it was in the confessional because the looks changed, but they were very similar. I was like, it is hard. It definitely is hard. But Ashley really puts it on herself that her husband isn't happy.

Kelli (07:58.478)
Yeah.

Kelli (08:07.042)
Yes. Yes.

Lori (08:11.194)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (08:19.954)
You know, he works all the time and he comes home and he's not happy. And she wants him to play golf and she wants him to play, you know, play softball. And he's like, it's not you. I mean, he's telling her it's not her and she's still carrying that, which I do actually feel very bad for her.

Kelli (08:35.19)
It's very hard to not take it personal though. I would take it personal. Like I understand it's not, but you know.

Wendy (08:39.047)
Yeah.

Lori (08:42.523)
But this is the thing, there are seasons in life when that's not your gig. There are seasons in life when you gotta grind it. There are seasons in life when your kids are young and you can't go do this and that or whatever. You know what mean? So it's just... the season is the season.

Wendy (09:00.166)
Yeah, but the thing is he doesn't need to have this coffee shop. This is what's taking up all of his time.

Kelli (09:04.748)
Right, Financially, they don't need.

Lori (09:05.935)
But maybe, but this is something that he wants, right? But if this is something that he wants, then this is the season of that, you know?

Wendy (09:15.186)
Yeah, I get it. I mean, she said she has a nanny 33 hours a week. She's like, I have a nanny 33 hours a week. We should be able to handle it. I'm like, yes, you should. I you should. I'll admit, I was a little jealous when I heard that. A little bit jealous.

Lori (09:23.939)
Yeah, I think you should be able to handle it. Yes. way jealous. Yes. No.

Kelli (09:27.982)
Guess you should.

No shit. Imagine that.

Wendy (09:34.674)
might be happy with one for five hours a week back then. you, I mean, five hours a week?

Kelli (09:37.774)
hell yes. Exactly.

Lori (09:37.915)
I'd have been happy with a cleaning lady.

Wendy (09:41.872)
Well, who wouldn't be happy with a cleaning lady? I would be happy with a cleaning lady.

Lori (09:46.458)
Yeah.

Kelli (09:46.958)
I would be happy with a cleaning lady now.

Lori (09:49.241)
the who who who know y'all.

Wendy (09:49.585)
Me too.

Wendy (09:53.178)
So then we see Kelsey and Liz, they are meeting up with Rula. Liz has known her through the community. They have similarities. They're both half Syrian. And Liz normally likes her Middle Eastern women, but she doesn't feel the same with Rula. I do think that Rula is very calm and very monotone. I think that's a little...

I'm not used to that in a housewife. I'm really not used to like an even... Are you? Like have you, have we ever had a housewife that was like that?

Lori (10:26.138)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (10:27.981)
Yeah.

Lori (10:30.747)
Well, Rachel Zoe is very... Rachel Zoe is very...

Kelli (10:30.978)
Well, if we did, they don't last long.

Wendy (10:36.944)
Rachel, you're right. You're right. Rachel Zoe is very like that. You're right.

Kelli (10:40.728)
She just, and I don't mean this to be insulting to Rula, she's just much more interesting because we already know her background. And she's been famous and she's had her own show and yeah. So it's almost like, you know, it doesn't affect her as a housewife. But yeah, Rula, definitely. Yep. But, listen.

Wendy (10:49.616)
Yeah, Rachel, you're referring to. Right, right, right, right.

Wendy (10:58.298)
Yeah. Yeah, it's just hard to get a read. It's hard to get a read on somebody who's so...

Lori (11:03.93)
Yeah.

Kelli (11:07.276)
She also signed up to do a show and I don't know, did you think your husband cheating on you wasn't gonna come up? I think she's probably also trying to play it calm and sophisticated and laid like, yes this happened, but he begged me and pleaded with me and now we've moved past it. So don't look behind the curtain kind of thing. So maybe she's just trying to keep it real calm.

Lori (11:31.716)
I just have to say this.

Wendy (11:32.402)
mean, she had to know it was going to come up. It happened in 2024. They filmed in 2025. She had to know that this was going to come out.

Lori (11:35.193)
I just have to say this.

Lori (11:40.572)
Oh yeah, but I wanna know what kind of person does this? You don't need the money. Why would you ever come onto a show, show pictures of your husband with somebody else, talk about, who does that? Who does that?

Kelli (11:41.162)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Kelli (12:05.056)
I don't know. Like, you can't think you're gonna come on the show and it's not gonna come up. So, yeah, she had to know it was gonna come up.

Wendy (12:11.142)
All right. All right.

Lori (12:12.645)
So this is what you're doing.

Why are you doing it? Like to me, that's it. To me, it makes no sense.

Kelli (12:19.074)
And I'm sorry, do they have a house because he's a podiatrist? Because Lord have mercy, that was some house.

Lori (12:26.924)
you can make good money as a producer. And she's an advisor. She makes gradoto.

Wendy (12:27.058)
She's a financial advisor. She is successful in her own right. She is a boss. She is successful. Yeah. No, no. She is

Kelli (12:29.46)
that's right. She's got her own. That's right. She's got her own gig. Okay. That's right. Cause I'm like, damn, I'm trying to encourage my kids to go into podiatry.

Lori (12:33.497)
Yes. Yeah.

Yeah, no, it's a dual income. It's a dual income. Yeah, well, podiatry is good. well, he's not just a podiatrist, he's a foot and ankle surgeon. And that's where the ad comes in, the surgeon. But it definitely a dual income household. And then there you go. But to me, that is just absolutely wild. Like, who does that? That's how I look at that situation. Who does that? It's kookadook.

Kelli (12:43.053)
I

Kelli (12:46.808)
Surgeon. Yeah.

Wendy (13:02.812)
You're right. No, it's a very good question.

Kelli (13:04.216)
Well, listen, it gets even deeper. I mean, when Rula says that she and Joellen have ups and downs and she and her husband know people in the beauty industry and she's heard that Joellen has been spreading rumors about her husband, like this goes even deeper than coming on a show where you know people know your husband had an affair. What we find out that what she and her husband did, I would have stayed away from this show for that. I mean,

Joellen does not seem like the type of person that you want to mess with, clearly. And what we find out, it's like, and now you're coming on a show with her?

Lori (13:45.475)
Makes no sense to me. And it certainly makes no sense that the husband and Rula would then approach Jo Ellen's workplace.

Wendy (13:45.478)
Yeah, I don't get it.

Kelli (13:45.902)
I

Kelli (13:56.409)
I believe it.

Lori (13:57.744)
That's, that's kooky shit right there. It's more kooky stuff.

Kelli (14:00.249)
That's what I'm saying. You did that. You and your husband called, I know we didn't get there yet, you and your husband called her employer and I 100 % believe that that happened. And now you're coming on a show with her? She's like a bulldog. She's gonna...

Lori (14:13.786)
It's just crazy.

I don't understand why anybody would do that. Go on the show in the first place with that and then all those other things. To me, that's kook-a-dook.

Kelli (14:17.848)
She's gonna take you down.

Kelli (14:26.904)
Well, come on, and you're calling her employer? Like, what is this, middle school? I mean, that's her livelihood. We're adults. We're all mature adults. Your husband's a podiatrist and he's calling someone's workplace, complaining about them because of this? Because he cheated on you? Like, this guy's got red flags all over the place.

Wendy (14:37.126)
Yes.

Lori (14:47.099)
It's come saying it just makes no sense. It makes no sense

Wendy (14:51.57)
And he's still doing it according to Liz, and she knows it!

Lori (14:54.563)
Right? Right.

Kelli (14:55.528)
yeah.

Wendy (14:58.748)
So if that's the case...

Kelli (14:59.136)
And again, it's like the Meredith Marks syndrome. If this is your gig, this is your gig. You're on the show with a girl who's with her man for six months and then he goes to Miami and he's with some other chick. Live your truth. If this is what's going on, just say it.

Wendy (15:18.118)
which Kelsey's living her truth. That's why I like Kelsey.

Kelli (15:21.388)
Right, absolutely.

Wendy (15:24.368)
And we found out who Kelsey's boyfriend is who owns that house. What's his name? Judge? Cipri, you don't? my God, he's amazing. He's amazing.

Kelli (15:32.067)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:36.334)
I don't even know who the guy is

Lori (15:39.333)
you don't know him? he was so awesome. he was amazing. He would always give people breaks on their sentences and do like, get them all kinds of help and just be really supportive. he was awesome. he's awesome.

Wendy (15:49.457)
Yes.

Kelli (15:53.262)
Wendy (15:55.29)
He was awesome. Look on like TikTok. He's got videos all over. Actually, he's got a YouTube channel. I think they said there's like six million subscribers or something crazy.

Kelli (15:56.376)
Wow.

Kelli (15:59.961)
Okay.

Okay.

Lori (16:05.627)
I saw an episode where she came on. What's her name? Yes. She came on his show and he gave her a case to decide what the sentence would be or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was on one of the episodes.

Kelli (16:10.488)
Kelsey?

Wendy (16:10.864)
Yes, I did too. I did too.

Kelli (16:21.4)
Really?

Wendy (16:22.758)
Yes, he gave her some choices. He gave her choices.

Lori (16:26.947)
of what to give the woman for her parking ticket, you know. Let her have certain amount of tickets. Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (16:30.352)
Yeah, Traffic court.

Caprio, that's his name, Judge Caprio. Frank Caprio.

Lori (16:38.725)
right.

Kelli (16:39.221)
Okay, I'll look them up

Wendy (16:43.858)
He is like known as he's like the nicest judge. He just passed away in August of 2025. he yeah, yeah. And he has two sons and the one is the one that's with Kelsey, but the other son, I don't know if you caught this, Joe Ellen used to date the other son.

Kelli (16:49.463)
he passed away? Aww.

Lori (16:50.083)
Yeah, Eww, sweetie.

Kelli (17:04.882)
yeah, they said that last episode, right?

Lori (17:05.305)
Yes, I did see that.

Wendy (17:07.514)
Yes, so Joellen used to date the other son. And...

Lori (17:10.383)
So I think that there's definitely, there's definitely more family money there than him just being a judge. There was just definitely, yeah. Yeah, I was like, nah, need just judge money.

Wendy (17:20.123)
definitely.

Kelli (17:20.798)
100%. I was thinking that when it came out that he was a judge, I'm like, okay, that's, mean, listen, clearly judges make a lot of money, but not.

Lori (17:28.643)
Right, but not that money. Not that money.

Wendy (17:31.282)
Not that kind of money, but it also came out. mean, I don't know where I this but Kelsey So her boyfriend's daughter she is two or three years Younger no younger. Maybe younger younger or older. She's only a couple years difference, but her one daughter got

Lori (17:40.333)
Only a couple years difference between her and them. Yeah.

Lori (17:47.129)
I think it's only a couple years older. Kelsey's a little older than me.

Wendy (17:50.3)
The one daughter got married last year. Yes, the one daughter got married last summer and she was there and she's, you know, did her makeup and stuff. So she's involved, like the whole family knows it's not like it's a secret. You know, like she's at least living her life. She's living her truth.

Lori (18:04.654)
Again.

Kelli (18:06.008)
So he does have children, he just doesn't want any more children. Okay, okay, okay. So it was probably the same thing with Liz's husband. When they got together, he was probably like, listen, I got three little girls. Right?

Wendy (18:09.52)
Right, he's got two grown children. Right.

Lori (18:19.737)
Right.

Wendy (18:22.373)
Right, right.

Wendy (18:26.588)
So I like that Liz, you know, I like that Liz explained the situation to Rula that, know, Joellen is just saying what's out there and you know it's still going on. She called her out on it. She's like, you know, it's still going on. Like don't, don't sit here and try and pretend like this isn't happening. And honestly, I feel like everyone needs a friend like Liz. Everyone needs a friend to call you out on your shit. Right?

Lori (18:44.527)
Well, she sure is.

Kelli (18:48.93)
Yes. Yes. Yeah, she was like insistent in her confessional, but as well as saying it to her like in the moment, like.

Lori (18:51.045)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wendy (18:56.754)
Yeah.

Wendy (19:01.412)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (19:03.123)
What she said, she said, but it is my.

Lori (19:07.747)
Yeah, she said. Yeah. I like it. And how about that, how about that Rella? I would never live in Cranston.

Wendy (19:08.25)
Yep, that's what she said. She said, Ma. Yep, she did say that.

Kelli (19:12.78)
Yeah, I love this.

Kelli (19:21.464)
my god. Wait, how about... All I could think was...

Wendy (19:24.956)
Cause she lives in Lincoln and that's.

Lori (19:26.747)
Mm-hmm. Woo woo.

Kelli (19:28.736)
She better not let Alicia's family hear that. They all want Alicia to move back to Granston.

Lori (19:35.022)
Right.

Wendy (19:36.516)
And by the way, Cranston is supposedly like the biggest swinging town in Rhode Island. That's like a thing in Cranston.

Kelli (19:42.669)
Is-

Lori (19:43.075)
Okay, wait a second. I learned something that I did not know.

Wendy (19:46.588)
Don't tell me you didn't know about the upside down pineapple.

Lori (19:48.44)
I did not. Did not. Did not. Did not. Did not. No. Absolutely not. my God, do not. Horrible. Fucking weirdos. No. No.

Wendy (19:50.706)
Who knows about the upside down pineapple?

Kelli (19:50.891)
I even knew about that. Yeah.

I'm totally going to, I'm totally putting one on your front lawn.

Wendy (20:05.181)
on your front lawn too.

Kelli (20:05.516)
I'm definitely doing that, I'm definitely doing it. We should put one on each of our front lawns and just see if anybody says anything.

Lori (20:07.233)
I had no, I had no idea.

my god, no Yeah, I no idea Yeah, maybe that's something we'll do for like mischief night Yeah, yeah

Wendy (20:15.826)
And then just put them on random people's front lawns.

Kelli (20:19.214)
Yeah

Wendy (20:23.804)
We'll have our own brick swinging scandal. Forget the warm in wives. We've got the wee whine whenever swingers here.

Kelli (20:23.87)
my god, we definitely have to do that. We definitely have to do that.

Lori (20:31.353)
Yeah, Lord, no.

Kelli (20:32.738)
We have to put masks on now because everybody has a damn ring camera.

Lori (20:37.699)
Yeah, yeah, that's what sucks. Not like when we were younger, you could just get away with mayhem. Whatever you wanted. It's great. Yeah, so I didn't know about that. So, you learn something new every day.

Wendy (20:37.81)
Mmm.

Kelli (20:42.181)
my god, could do whatever you wanted.

Wendy (20:53.01)
has to bring up what's going on with Liz and her husband. Like, that didn't need to be brought up. Why did she have to bring that up?

Kelli (21:02.734)
Well, right. And when she said like, yeah, she's like, well, you did your thing and he did his thing.

Lori (21:03.599)
goes tit for tat. This deflection, deflection, deflection.

Wendy (21:11.546)
Right, right, you didn't kick him to the curb. You didn't kick him to the curb. And then in her confessional, she says, well, know, Liz has shared with me about Jerry and his indiscretions, and she's done her own thing, and he's done his thing. Okay, well, she shared that with you. You need to put this in your confessional? You want to say that? You say that to her face, because you know what? Liz will say it to your face.

Kelli (21:33.122)
I think it's a little bit of tit for tat at this point. think, you know, yeah. Kelsey's relationship is getting called out. Rula's relationship is getting called out. So they're both like, okay, well, how about this?

Lori (21:36.057)
Yeah, it's deflection. If everybody's talking about me.

Lori (21:47.449)
Yeah. How about that?

Wendy (21:49.614)
Even when Rula says to Liz, well, when you produce kids with somebody, it's a game changer. Are you kidding me? Come on.

Lori (21:56.058)
Yeah, that was rude. That was rude. That was rude. It was rude.

Kelli (21:58.337)
It was very rude and you could tell as soon as Liz got a little offended, Rula tried to backpedal at it. You can't backpedal out of that. You said it. And it was rude.

Lori (22:06.299)
Yeah, that was rude. And I thought that Liz was very diplomatic in the way that she handled it. Very diplomatic.

Wendy (22:15.506)
I did too. I did too.

Kelli (22:15.938)
Yeah. Yeah. Cause you could tell she was pissed, but she stayed, you know, reserved.

Lori (22:19.725)
Yes.

Lori (22:24.248)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (22:24.796)
She did, she did. The next thing we see is Kelsey is in her boyfriend's mansion with her housekeeper Christina. That's so funny. She's got a full-time housekeeper. I mean, you need one with four kitchens. Who's going to clean all those TV screens?

Lori (22:38.083)
That's my dream. That's my dream.

Kelli (22:44.418)
But think about it. She doesn't even have to cook. She doesn't even have to cook for herself She's got somebody there to cook for her. my god

Lori (22:44.559)
somebody

Wendy (22:48.358)
Or do laundry, she doesn't even do laundry.

Lori (22:48.847)
Nothing.

Lori (22:52.473)
Never change the garbage, never clean the toilet bowl.

Wendy (22:56.71)
Then Alicia shows up.

Kelli (22:57.304)
There's one thing I don't ever want to have to do again is clean a bathroom. I hate it. And honestly, the toilet pool is not even my, it's the grout lines in the shower.

Lori (23:02.139)
Clean the bathroom.

Hate it, hate it, hate it.

Lori (23:10.723)
I told you I could give you that stuff off TikTok. my gosh. I have to do a commercial. It works so good.

Kelli (23:13.048)
Yeah, I just, I just wanna-

Wendy (23:13.153)
I was gonna ask you about that stuff you got on TikTok. Does that work?

Alright, well wait. Yeah, cause you ordered a second one, right?

Lori (23:22.339)
I did for my friend Janet. You guys need to order it. It works. I put it on. It hasn't come back.

Wendy (23:29.902)
Okay, I don't- okay, I gotta get that.

Lori (23:31.541)
It hasn't come back. I'm telling you, that stuff is a bomb.

Wendy (23:34.162)
All right, and what about the bra that you ordered?

Kelli (23:34.956)
Is it toxic? Is it killing us?

Lori (23:38.051)
I don't care. I don't care. I have tried everything in the world. I have done the toothbrush, the bleach, the vinegar, the baking soda, the tea tree. Forget it. It was not coming off and I don't care.

Wendy (23:39.386)
Yeah, who cares? We're getting rid of the grout scum. Seriously.

Kelli (23:42.593)
I knew she was going to say that.

Wendy (23:45.316)
I don't care either.

Wendy (23:54.724)
Okay, all right. I saw the grout stuff on TikTok. What about the bra? The posture bra?

Lori (23:58.396)
That was from my friend at work. She liked it. Yes. She did like it.

Wendy (24:02.436)
she did like it. Can she give us a review?

Kelli (24:03.541)
so now we're ordering stuff for people at work.

Lori (24:06.245)
Yes.

Lori (24:10.339)
Yes. They tell me their problems and I find the product. When TikTok shop and I order for them or team on a care Amazon, whatever it's all shit.

Wendy (24:15.086)
TikTok.

Kelli (24:17.9)
Or Teemo. Or Teemo.

Wendy (24:18.226)
Love this. Whatever, whatever, whatever.

Alicia shows up at Kelsey's house with a box of crackers and wine. She wanted to get cheese, but the line was too long. And when I saw this, I was like, this is so Lori. Lori would show up with a box of crackers. She would. Hope you guys saw, I got crackers. That was you. That would be you. And even the fact that like Alicia always has to have snacks in her bag. feel like Lori has snacks in her bag.

Kelli (24:29.336)
Kelsey South.

Lori (24:40.229)
be like, hopefully you got something to go with this because it just didn't work out. Didn't work out.

Lori (24:50.299)
Oh, it's hysterical. I like her. think she's really funny. She doesn't like to drive. She ran over a woman. I want to know more about that. She ran over a woman. Who? Who? When? Is she all right?

Wendy (24:55.282)
I know she reminds me of you. She reminds me of you. I do too. I do too. I do too. I told you.

Kelli (24:55.818)
I do like Alicia. Yeah.

Kelli (25:04.46)
Yeah. Right. Right. Did she survive? Could you at least let us know if she survived?

Lori (25:08.015)
Did she survive? Right. Are you friends now? Like what? Yeah, I want to know about that.

Wendy (25:08.474)
Right. I know. Right. We have to find out. Now, Alicia reminds me a lot of you. I told you initially, like Alicia is, I still feel this way. I still think she's one of my favorites. I like her and I really like Ashley. She reminds me of you.

Lori (25:21.115)
She's a goof.

Kelli (25:22.232)
Yes. Yes.

Lori (25:24.699)
Yes, and I really like Ashley too. think she's really funny. I like how Ashley was like, yeah, so I decided to wait until, you know, I found someone to have sex and then I was just, I was a virgin for a long time or something. Just like the way she said it was really, she was really cute.

Wendy (25:41.266)
She said, I was almost 30 and they're like, so you were 29. She didn't say that. She's like, I was almost 30.

Lori (25:47.226)
Right, right. That's great. He's funny. Yeah. she said, a bit of time. Yeah, she said, so I was a virgin for a bit of time. It's funny.

Kelli (25:47.886)
you

Kelli (25:56.675)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:57.03)
You

Wendy (26:03.718)
So Kelsey's telling Alicia about what happened with Liz and her and Rula and how she's not a fan of Joe Allen's. And Alicia says she likes Rula and her family, that they own a jewelry shop that she goes to near Philadelphia. She said she's got a bougie vibe. I don't get a bougie vibe from her. I don't think she's bougie. She said when she talks, it's very fancy.

Lori (26:28.837)
No.

Wendy (26:34.192)
I don't get that either. just think that Alicia is just Alicia. So to her it's fancy, right? Because Alicia is very Rhode Island, like they said, like that's what I get from. I mean, I think she's from Long Island originally, right?

Lori (26:34.458)
No.

Kelli (26:38.37)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:41.784)
Yes.

Kelli (26:45.709)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:49.464)
She has a different accent. She has a different accent from the rest of them.

Lori (26:49.826)
that makes sense. That makes sense.

Wendy (26:52.42)
Yeah. Yeah. I think she's originally from Long Island. And I think that's why she has that accent. But she's lived in Rhode Island for a very long time. So she's got the Long Island, Rhode Island, right?

Kelli (27:01.326)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (27:03.803)
So it's meshed together with the Rhode Island. Yeah.

Kelli (27:06.306)
I mean, Liz has known her since she's born, right? She called her Cece. They called her Cece.

Wendy (27:10.642)
Yeah, yeah. I will say then we see Rula's house. my god. Her house is amazing. The staircase.

Kelli (27:23.096)
Yeah. I mean, I'm still taking Liz's house over hers because it's on the water, but her house was beautiful.

Lori (27:29.721)
Yes, beautiful.

Wendy (27:30.822)
I mean, but hers is in Lincoln. Supposedly that's a better town. I don't know.

Lori (27:33.968)
Bye-bye.

Kelli (27:35.638)
I don't know, I'd still want to be on the water though.

Lori (27:38.032)
Yes.

Wendy (27:39.506)
She's got a daughter, Layla, who is five, and a son, Luca, who is eight. So her children are very young. And to be putting...

Lori (27:45.196)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's good.

Kelli (27:45.838)
These women have such young kids and I feel like they're mature.

Lori (27:51.407)
Well, didn't she say they were only married for like-

Wendy (27:55.986)
12 years. They've been together 12 years, married for nine. Been together 12 years, married for nine. And she owns her own financial planning firm. So that's, she's got people working for her. Like she's got...

Lori (27:56.923)
12 years or something.

Kelli (28:00.557)
Right. Right, married nine.

Lori (28:10.011)
Yeah, she was, she was just being, she was had her big girl pants on a little bit too much with her business. She was being a little too much of a girl ball. Just, all right, stop it a little bit.

Kelli (28:16.834)
Well, listen, I'm just going to say it.

Kelli (28:23.438)
We meet Brian, I mean, he is the epitome of the saying he has outkicked his coverage. Like one, how did he even get her? She's way out of his league. And then you have the balls to cheat on her? I'm like, bro.

Wendy (28:26.711)
yeah, Brian is-

Wendy (28:34.902)
yeah.

Wendy (28:38.566)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (28:45.105)
Yes.

Lori (28:49.935)
Yeah, I don't get it.

Wendy (28:50.29)
I I totally agree with you. And even in her confessionals, she said, like, normally I like tall, dark, handsome. My husband is a little bit shorter. He's lighter. All right, I think he's handsome. All right, he checked one of the three boxes. I was like, wait, what?

Lori (28:59.183)
Just handsome.

Kelli (28:59.884)
Not. Not.

Kelli (29:09.292)
He checked zero boxes. He checked zero boxes.

Lori (29:14.115)
And you know, mind you, she didn't say I usually look like tall, dark and handsome. But then when I met my husband, he was just such a wonderful man that my type went out the window. He ain't saying that either.

Wendy (29:28.944)
You know what is so funny?

Kelli (29:28.994)
No, I say it all the time. Listen, was total like, guido's like, guido like, you know, your tip, but that's always who I went for. Clearly I didn't marry that, my like, listen, it clicked. He made me laugh. He was loyal. He treated me nice. You know, yeah, like, you know, wine to dine, you know, whatever it was, it was, and that's what happened. But yeah, you're right. She's not saying any of that.

Lori (29:37.029)
the whole thing.

Lori (29:48.485)
And there you go.

Wendy (29:50.052)
And I get it.

Lori (29:54.992)
Right. Yep. She's not saying that either, no. And like I said, that whole situation, weird, weird, weird, weird, weird, weird.

Wendy (29:58.93)
She's not. No, and I always was.

It is weird.

I would always say I liked the short blonde surfer type. Like that was my type until I met Bill, who is tall, dark, and handsome. Like Bill was not my type, but now he's my type. Now tall, dark, and handsome is my type. He was the opposite of what I was attracted to normally.

Kelli (30:16.812)
Right. Right.

Wendy (30:25.618)
So she is Lebanese and Syrian. Her dad's from Beirut, Lebanon, and her mom is from a small town in Syria. And Brian is 100 % Italian. I don't even get that from Brian. Do you get him to be 100 % Italian? No, right? I don't get it either. I don't get it either.

Kelli (30:38.732)
No, no, not at all.

Lori (30:38.745)
No, but you know.

Kelli (30:44.95)
I'm sure it's true, but to look at him, you wouldn't think it.

Wendy (30:47.024)
No. No, right?

Lori (30:49.807)
But who has a business in a state that's like a small town and decides, I'm gonna cheat on my wife and then she's gonna find out about it and there's gonna be pictures out there and then we're gonna go on a reality show. What are you doing?

Wendy (31:00.796)
Right.

Kelli (31:10.188)
I know. I wonder if he didn't want her to do the show.

Wendy (31:10.706)
Mm.

Lori (31:16.667)
I don't know. To me, it makes no sense for anybody.

Wendy (31:17.222)
He had a sign off on it. Well, the producer.

Kelli (31:19.83)
And then he showed up at Watch What Happens Live. So maybe he was, maybe this is his gig too. Like, I

Lori (31:27.641)
That's a weird gig.

Wendy (31:30.0)
It's a weird gig, because the producer asked her if all is forgiven. And she said, well, I'm still working on that. I feel like she's going to stay with him until her kids are old enough, and then she's going to leave. And that's sad. That's really sad.

Lori (31:31.227)
It's a weird gig.

Lori (31:41.327)
and then she's gonna be like out, right?

Kelli (31:47.151)
because you're robbing yourself of years of being happy and listen and years of feeling secure in a relationship. I'm not saying once a cheater always a cheater. I honestly don't believe that. I do think people can make a mistake and then yeah, I believe that. But if he's still doing it and you're saying no he's not but you know he it like.

Lori (32:03.129)
No, I think that shit can happen and yeah.

Lori (32:10.265)
Yeah, then no way. No way.

Kelli (32:14.976)
It just doesn't seem like a healthy place to be with yourself. You're better than that. And you should want more for yourself than that. And honestly, at some point, your kids are gonna realize what the hell's going on. If he's not gonna stop, your kids are gonna realize what's going on. And then it's gonna... Yeah, like we all know behaviors that we all have, right? Us and our spouses. And we can look at our kids and be like, shit, they have that.

Lori (32:27.739)
They're gonna see the show! They, at some point, they're gonna see the show. Is this my whole point and whole thing?

Wendy (32:30.202)
Yeah.

This just lives on forever.

Lori (32:39.824)
absolutely. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (32:44.738)
behavior from me, you know, it's just, it's inherent.

Lori (32:47.001)
Right.

But I'm just, that's my whole point of the matter is that, what are you doing?

Kelli (32:55.928)
Why are you signing on to be on a reality show if this is your reality?

Lori (32:57.699)
Yeah, I can't.

Wendy (32:58.45)
I like how he says, I let you track me. You know where I am every minute. No, you let her track your phone. She knows where your phone is every minute, but you got another phone someplace and you are not with that tracking phone. I can tell you that right now, Brian, because we are smarter than that. I don't know if she is. No, she is. She's got to be smarter than that. Come on, Brian. Do better.

Lori (33:11.841)
Absolutely not. Right. Right. Right.

That phone sitting at the office, that phone sitting at the office and you're out at Red Lobster, wherever you are. Most definitely. No, don't think it's at Red Lobster. I was just saying it because it was Rhode Island and lobsters. I know. I put him in a cheesy place because I think he's a cheesy guy.

Kelli (33:20.962)
Get your shit together, Brian.

Wendy (33:27.89)
except Red Lobster.

Kelli (33:29.748)
Not the Red Lobster. Not the Cheesy Biscuits.

Wendy (33:34.854)
Ha ha ha.

you

Kelli (33:42.668)
I'm not gonna lie, I love Red Lobster. I'll do Red Lobster. And we have some of the best seafood around. We live at the Jersey Shore. I'll still go to Red Lobster if you invite me.

Wendy (33:42.716)
That's so funny.

Lori (33:45.187)
I've never been to the Red Lobster in my life.

Wendy (33:47.188)
my God, the thought of it.

Lori (33:50.267)
That's what I'm saying. Never been there.

Wendy (33:53.478)
You know what? You can go with Bill because Bill always wants to go to Red Lobster. I'm like, that is the grossest place ever.

Lori (33:59.098)
Me too, Wendy. I'm like, I'm not going there.

Wendy (34:02.054)
No.

Kelli (34:02.638)
Oh my God, you've never been to Red Lobster? I mean, I probably haven't been there in 10 years, but...

Wendy (34:05.617)
been.

Lori (34:07.771)
I've never been there.

Wendy (34:09.094)
You're not missing anything, Lori. I mean, the Cheddar Bay biscuits are good, but you know what? We can make those. They have the mix at BJ's. Yeah, we can make them. Yep.

Kelli (34:09.846)
I love those cheesy biscuits.

Lori (34:10.6)
I know I'm

Lori (34:15.291)
They have the mix, you can get it, absolutely.

Kelli (34:16.93)
They sure do. They sure do.

Wendy (34:20.818)
All right, next we see Kelsey gets dropped off at Alicia's house because the ladies are going on a winery trip. And they're gonna pick up that they're all gonna meet there and get on the bus. And of course Alicia has to have snacks for the road because you know, she can't go anywhere without her snacks. So the funny thing is they go to this Newport Vineyard. I have been to the same Newport Vineyard. So I did a girls weekend. My friend Joanne planned a girls weekend for us. I think it was like nine years ago, cause she went to school in Rhode Island. It was me.

Kelli (34:32.6)
Her car.

Lori (34:33.915)
I love it. Love it.

Lori (34:40.738)
nice.

Kelli (34:41.023)
No way!

Wendy (34:51.046)
Joanne Jerilyn Pam Jennifer and.

Kelli (34:55.468)
I remember this, was it for somebody's birthday?

Wendy (34:58.564)
It was, was actually technically it was probably Martin Luther King weekend and Joanne's birthday is usually that weekend. So it was like a, just like a girls weekend trip, right? But she got us this Airbnb, which was fabulous. She is the best like travel planning person. She had like biscuits show up at our door the next morning with like all this stuff. We went to this, this exact Newport vineyard. We did the wine tasting. I was like, my God, I've been there.

Kelli (35:05.965)
I remember that.

Lori (35:08.229)
nice.

Lori (35:28.763)
That's a cool.

Wendy (35:28.914)
It's fabulous. We honestly, it was such a nice weekend. That waterfront there, like all the stuff in Newport, like we should do. That's where we were. We should, and you know what? We went in January. We went in January, which is off season. So it was, you know, we're frugal. It was a lot less expensive, but we did like the mansion tours. The mansion tours were fabulous. We should do that. We went whenever needs to go to Newport, right?

Kelli (35:29.07)
That is so crazy.

Lori (35:36.664)
Newport's beautiful. I've been to Newport. That's, those mansions are just beautiful.

Kelli (35:48.664)
Sure.

Lori (35:50.911)
it's beautiful.

Beautiful. Okay. Yes. I'm not driving around. I'm not driving around looking for these chicks houses though. I'm telling you right now I'm not doing that. I'll sit at the hotel YouTube bozos can go.

Kelli (35:55.032)
That's a great idea. Yeah, that's a great idea.

Wendy (35:59.281)
I want to do it again.

Kelli (36:07.166)
You know what? No, no, no, because you know what? They all live in different towns. It's too much. When we do that, you know, we know what we're doing and we haven't done that in years.

Lori (36:12.345)
different towns. Okay. Well, thank God.

Wendy (36:12.804)
Yeah, it's too much. It's too much.

Lori (36:17.947)
Okay. Okay. Just putting it out there. So just tell them.

Kelli (36:24.226)
How about the time we were supposed to go for pedicures and I walked in and Frank Catania and Brittany were sitting there.

Wendy (36:30.458)
I know, I know.

Lori (36:30.533)
There you go.

Kelli (36:31.79)
I'm telling you my third eye I always have intuition about this stuff and Wendy something came up and couldn't go so I was like alright well I had the appointment so I went it was it was me Frank Itania, Brittany and Brittany's mother all getting pedicures next to each other I did not talk to them you know me I become mute when I'm near people

Lori (36:48.53)
that's hysterical.

Wendy (36:49.052)
And you didn't even talk to them. You didn't talk to them, did you? I know, because if I was there, if I was there, we'd be going over to Frank's house for marinara sauce. It would have been a Sunday special.

Kelli (36:57.506)
Different ball game. Yep. I know I should have said something.

Lori (37:02.843)
And if I went, I would have been talking to them not knowing who they were at all.

Kelli (37:08.718)
100 %

Wendy (37:08.722)
Exactly. Exactly. And you'd be getting the marinara sauce too.

Lori (37:13.923)
And I'd be calling him, he'd be like, you know what? I just met this guy and his mom, they're have meep, let's go home. And he'd get there and be like, my God.

Wendy (37:18.514)
you

Kelli (37:23.416)
So funny.

Wendy (37:25.212)
So Kelsey likes cheap wine. She actually likes something called stripper juice. What the hell, Kelsey?

Lori (37:27.707)
Stripper juice. Stripper juice, yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (37:33.09)
I don't know what the, I meant to look that up.

Lori (37:35.747)
It's just cheap wine, that's all.

Kelli (37:38.217)
is that what it is? The stripper juice is the $8 bottle of wine? well then I've had stripper juice too.

Lori (37:39.415)
Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Yeah, I've had lots of stripper juice. Yeah. So much, so much stripper juice that I probably should have been a stripper. Well, the stripper juice I had.

Wendy (37:42.446)
Okay.

Kelli (37:46.496)
upped my game, but I have had stripper juice.

Wendy (37:54.175)
Hahaha!

Listen, it would have been more-

Kelli (37:58.019)
What what Ashley's dress? mean, Ashley's dress. What was she thinking?

Lori (38:03.823)
Girl, I like her, but I don't know what that was at all. And I'm all about the funky, the weird, the boho. I'm all about it. I love it, but it was not good. I was like, girl, no, it's not good.

Wendy (38:06.392)
The medieval thing, right? my gosh, I have-

Kelli (38:08.129)
that was horrible.

Wendy (38:11.826)
You love a corset.

No, it wasn't good. No. I agree. Jo Ellen said she's not a wine connoisseur, more of a wine snob. She just likes to buy the expensive bottles because she's hoping she doesn't get a hangover. All well, mean, that's a good theory.

Kelli (38:16.235)
No, that was not good.

Kelli (38:28.078)
Stupid. It's not a good theory though. I mean listen, I have inside scoop because yeah, my daughter works at a liquor store and her manager is so knowledgeable. Like I tell him like how much money I wanna spend and he picks me out the perfect bottles. With the label, I do typically only buy Italian wines, but it's got the label on it so it has to meet certain criteria.

Lori (38:28.943)
Well, that's, yeah, but no.

Wendy (38:33.286)
I know it's not, was joking.

Lori (38:53.477)
right of standards, yes.

Kelli (38:53.686)
And he said, any wine with this label on it, and I get bottles for $20 and just under, it's better than any organic wine you'll get in the States. He said, do not buy wine from USA.

Lori (39:08.667)
There you go.

Wendy (39:08.892)
Well, our Kirkland Pinot Grigio, which I absolutely love and is $4.99 a bottle, is made in Italy. It is an Italian wine.

Lori (39:18.139)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (39:18.41)
It's ridiculously good, that Pinot Grigio.

Lori (39:21.733)
Yes, it is.

Wendy (39:21.81)
It is a good Italian wine. It is not crap. It is not crap just because it has a screw top and it's $5. I'm just going to say that. I'm going to put that out there. It's good wine. Put it out there.

Kelli (39:24.984)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Lori (39:25.528)
No, it's not.

Kelli (39:31.758)
Put it out there. It is good wine.

Lori (39:33.115)
So if anybody wants some stripper juice, that's really not stripper juice, the Kirkland Pinot Grigio, okay? There you go.

Kelli (39:38.158)
Right. Right. I didn't realize it was made in Italy.

Wendy (39:39.536)
Yes, Kirkland Pinot Grigio. Get it. It's good.

Lori (39:44.9)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (39:45.338)
It's made in Italy. Yeah, yeah, no, it's good.

Kelli (39:47.49)
No, that's good wine. I've always loved that one.

Wendy (39:50.874)
All right, so they're at the vineyard and Kelsey pulls Joellen aside after they do their little thing, because they're gonna sit down and eat to let her know that Rula is gonna be showing up. And all of a sudden we see like, we see ghetto Joellen because she just like gets activated, right?

Lori (40:10.267)
She did. She did, yeah. Yeah, she was. She did get okay, man.

Kelli (40:12.664)
Don't you understand why after what she says? I mean, if someone called my employer, you wouldn't be able to put me in a room with that person. And I believe Joellen's the same, you know what I'm saying? After hearing what she said, yeah, for sure. But after hearing that, that they called her employer, and again, I have 100 % believe it, I don't know if,

Lori (40:16.159)
yeah.

Wendy (40:16.465)
I do.

Wendy (40:24.538)
No, no, no, we wouldn't.

Lori (40:24.803)
Right, absolutely.

Right.

Wendy (40:29.242)
Yeah, no, she has your same level.

Mm-hmm.

Kelli (40:41.14)
If Ru- I believe that Rula's husband would do that. He seems- he just seems like the type.

Lori (40:46.797)
Hmm. mean it's wrong, wrong no matter what.

Kelli (40:48.512)
If it weren't for him, I don't know if Rula would do it. He seems like the type. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wendy (40:49.151)
he definitely seems like the type.

he definitely seems like he's covering his tracks.

Lori (40:55.227)
Yeah. But you know, but see, this is a thing you have to temper yourself. Like Joe Allen taking Ruella's box and throwing it over the side of the thing. That's like your 10 year old. Like, you know, be pissed all you want, but that's just like, stop.

Wendy (41:05.948)
That was stupid.

Kelli (41:06.798)
Yeah. It was.

Wendy (41:15.066)
And the fact that it happened six months after she told Rula about it is a little odd too, unless that's when they were all getting contracts.

Kelli (41:21.933)
next.

Wendy (41:25.68)
Right? I mean, I don't know. Like, why do you wait six months to do that?

Kelli (41:26.384)
Excuse me,

Kelli (41:31.928)
unless he was doing it and it just got back to her six months later. Like maybe he was going around and the last person he told six months into his game finally said to her, like, we need to address this.

Wendy (41:40.593)
Yeah.

Wendy (41:47.216)
Yeah, it could be.

Kelli (41:47.469)
Maybe he had been making it as it was actual professional complaints against her. And he had been doing it for so long that eventually after six months finally they were like, okay, this has been going on, this is what he's been saying and this is how long he's been saying it. So now we feel like we have to address it with you. Which is even more effed up.

Lori (42:14.105)
Why? Yeah.

Wendy (42:15.696)
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that this is really the place for Rula. We'll see how long she lasts. But they did say that she has the most to answer for at the reunion. So I just hope it's not a whole season of this. Yes, yes. I don't want a whole season of this. I don't. Like, I like these ladies. I want to see them having fun. I want to see them doing stupid things. I love when Alicia...

Kelli (42:28.106)
Mm-hmm. And that her husband was the most problematic out of all of the husbands.

Lori (42:37.179)
Right.

Kelli (42:37.624)
Now.

Wendy (42:43.824)
was sitting there and they're talking about Rula and what did she say? her husband, what was the word she said? Her husband's a foot doctor, but what was Alicia's line? I think he's doing it.

Kelli (42:52.14)
I think he's doing more than rubbing foot. She said her husband is a foot doctor, but I think he's doing more than rubbing foot.

Lori (42:54.939)
playing footsies more than playing footsies. Right.

Wendy (42:59.506)
Right? Like that's the stuff I like. That is the stuff I like. I want to see more of that. It's funny.

Kelli (43:03.434)
It's funny, it's funny that people, you said people were comparing Teresa to Joellen because really they should be comparing Teresa to Alicia because of the way she talks. I mean clearly Teresa's not as smart as Joellen, let's face it. And the way they talk, she and Alicia are more similar, I think.

Wendy (43:14.962)
Because, yes, that is true.

Wendy (43:21.594)
Yeah.

Wendy (43:27.098)
No, I agree. So then they're all sitting there at the table. And then of course, Rula calls Liz and FaceTimes her. And she's not going be able to make it. Kelsey, she FaceTimes Kelsey. And she was at urgent care for two hours. So everyone's happy she's not coming. She throws her box in the bushes. But they're going to play a game where they all put questions that they want to ask.

I actually thought that this was a good idea, to be honest with you. I don't normally like games, but if this is a new group of women and we're gonna put it all out on the table, let's just put it all out on the table. I think that that's how it should be. This is the time to do it. Like, this is the time to do it, right? I thought that was a good idea.

Lori (44:03.737)
Yeah. Everybody ask anything you want to ask. Right. Let's just get it out of the way now. Right.

Kelli (44:06.936)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (44:12.408)
well it's early enough in filming where, yeah, like too much hasn't happened yet.

Wendy (44:16.209)
Night!

Wendy (44:21.21)
Right, right. I mean, they say everything's anonymous, but we know who asked everyone's question because they all admitted. Exactly, exactly. That was fine.

Kelli (44:27.394)
They admit it!

Lori (44:29.861)
Right. I don't have my question.

Wendy (44:37.104)
I mean, Joellen asked, Alicia, did you hook up with Gary? And she's like, never, not once. did Joellen, I guess, because she's known him for so long, she thought like maybe it had happened and that's something she wanted to know. I believe her. I don't think she ever hooked up with Gary. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I feel...

Kelli (44:53.932)
That was a valid question, I think. Yeah, that was a valid question. But knowing that she was best friends with your sister and your sister had a thing with Gat, like, you kinda shoulda known, but, whatever.

Lori (44:56.219)
Yeah.

Wendy (45:05.51)
Yeah, but I thought the first question that Ashley got was, when did you lose your virginity? Like, who's asking that question? they must have known that she was, they must have known. They had to know that, right? Like, why else are you asking that?

Lori (45:11.631)
Yeah, that's so weird. Maybe it was, yeah, they must have known. Yeah. Yeah. Cause why else would you ask that question? Yeah.

Kelli (45:12.183)
they

Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (45:20.718)
want to know what coach we're talking about with Rosie. Who's the coach?

Wendy (45:21.254)
And then Rosie's question.

One NBA coach. They said NBA, that's all I know.

Lori (45:29.019)
Yeah, I don't know. That's Yeah.

Kelli (45:29.441)
I didn't even hear the NBA part.

Wendy (45:31.218)
Oh, basketball, no, basketball. They said basketball. don't know if it, I don't know if was, I don't know if it was NCAA or NBA. They just said coach and they said basketball. I don't know, cause they, I put on closed captioning cause I thought I was missing it, but they didn't have it. They bleeped it out.

Kelli (45:33.186)
Yeah, they just said basketball. took it as like a college coach, but.

Lori (45:35.141)
Yeah.

Kelli (45:41.742)
Yeah.

Kelli (45:45.57)
Yep, no, I just heard basketball. Yeah, no, we're gonna have to check that out. But really, who cares if she did? I mean, I'm sure it was prior to her being married, yeah.

Wendy (45:51.483)
Yeah.

Lori (45:52.944)
care.

Wendy (45:55.004)
She said she didn't! But she said she did- she's not married.

Kelli (46:01.134)
Rosie?

Lori (46:03.003)
Yeah, Rosie's not married.

Wendy (46:04.72)
Rosie's not married.

Kelli (46:05.058)
Rosie's married?

Lori (46:06.713)
No, she's not married. They bought a house together, but they're not married.

Kelli (46:10.526)
Okay, okay. All right. So even more so than if she hooked up with a coach who cares? Rich is that her husband's name or significant others name rich. I thought they were married for a year for why does a year stick out to me?

Wendy (46:10.672)
I don't think they're married. I think it's her fiance, right?

Lori (46:15.983)
Yeah, whatever. No, I don't think I'm married. I don't think I'm married. I don't know. I don't think so. Maybe.

Wendy (46:15.984)
Right. Wait, are they married? I think they're just...

Wendy (46:24.068)
Maybe they are married for a year. No, maybe they are married for a year. It's new, it's new. Maybe it is a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (46:29.472)
It's new, it's very new. If they are, new.

Wendy (46:37.266)
They asked Joelle if she was a swinger. They asked her that and watched, she's not. Listen, I could see where that, you know, whatever.

Kelli (46:44.216)
which, but they did have a threesome and they are still married. So maybe.

Wendy (46:48.718)
No, no, no, she had a threesome. No, she said she had a threesome when she was in college.

Kelli (46:55.5)
No, I'm pretty sure she said she had a threesome with Gary.

Lori (46:55.877)
But then I did, she did say it in college, she did say in college, but then I do think I remember her saying, we, after that. She said she had like, she said she had like, she said she had like three of them.

Wendy (46:58.098)
No.

Kelli (47:05.506)
Yes.

I think they may be the exception to our rule.

Wendy (47:08.742)
Okay.

Kelli (47:14.072)
Well, she definitely did with the tanning salon owner and his wife, but I, yeah, I think she said we were not swingers.

Wendy (47:20.412)
The tanning salon owner and his wife is the guy that Kelsey is with. The brother. No?

Kelli (47:27.98)
No, no, no. Kelsey worked at a tanning salon, no, Jo Ellen worked at a tanning salon that Kelsey used to go to when she was younger. And Jo Ellen started having an affair with the husband and then started having an affair with the husband and the wife. So that's one threesome. But I think she said, we're not swingers, but we have had a threesome.

Wendy (47:32.39)
Are you sure?

Wendy (47:50.908)
Okay.

Lori (47:56.859)
Thought you did say we.

Kelli (47:58.455)
And so they're still married. So if that's true, they are the exception to our rule that you cannot, your marriage cannot sustain a threesome.

Wendy (47:59.174)
Okay.

Wendy (48:03.674)
Okay, that could be.

Wendy (48:08.742)
Maybe if it's a one-off, it can. Maybe the person moved out of country. We don't know where that other part of the threesome is.

Kelli (48:09.474)
God bless. God bless. That's right.

Kelli (48:18.487)
We don't know.

Lori (48:20.985)
I gotta have enough time with a twosome. It's too much. It's too much for me. I just can't.

upside down, pine. I don't know what you're people are talking about. I don't get it. And, and, and no, my question is what does, like, what's the pineapple about? Like to me, like a pineapple, it looks like SpongeBob. Yeah. Like why, why is the pineapple like, like, why would you, what would it, why would it, why is, right?

Wendy (48:33.692)
So funny.

Kelli (48:41.422)
Lori's getting a real edgy-

Wendy (48:49.874)
You're still in the pineapple?

Kelli (48:51.47)
She wants to know what the pineapple signifies. Well, fuck it.

Wendy (48:58.726)
Well, all right, this is the only thing I can think of. Now, this is just me trying to rationalize this. So the pineapple in early time was a welcome symbol, like the colonial times. Right, hospitality is a welcome symbol. So if it's upside down, it's like, OK, we're really hospitable.

Lori (49:10.713)
Right, hospitality. Yes, hospitalism.

Lori (49:21.055)
Like, we're really open. Okay. All right.

Wendy (49:22.426)
Right? Yeah.

Lori (49:28.795)
Just to me.

Wendy (49:30.534)
Are you still here, Kelly?

Kelli (49:31.328)
It serves as a discrete way for swingers to identify like-minded individuals. Well, it's commonly associated with cruises. The trend has grown through social media. It doesn't say, it signifies a non-monogamous lifestyle, but why? Like why an upside down pineapple?

Wendy (49:41.802)
yes.

Lori (49:52.741)
Why the pineapple? some nuts? Maybe it's too much SpongeBob.

Kelli (49:58.7)
I don't know.

Lori (50:00.228)
Okay, we'll move on, let's go.

Wendy (50:02.288)
All right.

So then Liz gets her question, right? And she reads her question. Liz's question is, I know it's not true, I love you, but the news is H true. And then Alicia starts laughing and said, I was nervous when I was writing that. And Liz said, Cici, can I ask you to translate? And then Alicia said, I love you, but is the news true? And Liz is like, what news? She's like, they...

Lori (50:33.325)
I think she just did that to like have a question. don't think, I think she felt bad the second she wrote it.

Wendy (50:36.88)
that you're having an affair or something. No, because Liz was pissed. Liz was pissed.

Lori (50:41.339)
Yeah, but I think that the girl regretted putting that card in there though. She knew she fucked up.

Kelli (50:43.234)
Liz was pissed.

I agree. I think Alicia regretted it, But Liz was definitely, she said out of everybody.

Wendy (50:48.838)
You th- Well then why the heck did she ask it?

Lori (50:52.537)
Because she's had a thing and she was just trying to fit in and trying to be a housewife and trying to make the stir the pot. But it's really not her gig. So I think she was like, ugh.

Wendy (50:55.088)
Right. She knows.

Kelli (51:05.294)
Right, like she quickly realized that she hurt Liz's feelings. Because as I said, like out of everybody, I didn't think you would ask me that question.

Lori (51:08.057)
Yeah.

Lori (51:11.459)
Yeah. I think she regretted it.

Wendy (51:12.144)
Yeah. And Liz is like, by her asking it, it legitimizes it. Like, why would she ask that question? Yeah.

Kelli (51:14.039)
And I don't

Kelli (51:17.654)
Right, it's like she's cosigning it, yeah. And I think that if Liz loves you, Liz loves hard, so you don't wanna rock that boat. I think Liz is a good friend to have and you don't wanna lose her as a friend. Not that she's gonna lose her as a friend, but you just don't wanna rock the boat.

Lori (51:25.423)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (51:32.914)
I mean, no, Alicia apologised. She apologised.

Lori (51:37.359)
Yeah. At least that's my opinion. She doesn't seem to be a mean person. You know what I mean?

Wendy (51:39.25)
I'm sure she'll think of her.

Wendy (51:44.636)
She doesn't seem malicious. No, she doesn't. No.

Kelli (51:51.641)
But I mean, listen, Rosie said she heard about a former friendship of Liz's where she was calling the person 400 times a month. Are they like subpoenaing phone records? Like how do you know somebody called somebody 400 times a month?

Wendy (52:03.056)
I know, that's weird.

Lori (52:07.131)
No. Well, know, Liz said that her husband all of sudden got into this sport fishing and was gone. And, you know, it was a friend of hers and she ended up spending a lot of time with him. She said, was it the, you know, was it really the best kind of situation? No. But did she cheat on him? No. But she probably was just spending a lot of time with him because she missed her husband and he wasn't home. And they were very good friends.

Wendy (52:07.218)
That's weird.

Lori (52:36.417)
Maybe, you know, you know, you can have a friendship with a guy and sometimes you don't do anything, but it gets just get to be a little too like a little too intimate, like a little you spend too much time together and it can just, you know, just be on that weird little.

Kelli (52:52.782)
Well, there's a couple of different things. Yeah, I totally agree with you. This one could have been during a time where maybe Jerry, right? Her husband's Jerry. Yeah, Jerry, maybe he was having an indiscretion and she was like, fuck you. It could have been that.

Wendy (53:03.324)
Mm-hmm, yeah.

Lori (53:08.879)
Well, let me tell you something about, right. Let me tell you something about these sport fishing trips. Because I had a friend who told me all the education on this. When these guys go to like Costa Rica and stuff and they go on these big fishing trips.

There's goings on. There's antics. There is definitely antics because it's very inexpensive there. You can have the girls come and the whole chit array and it can go sideways and south quick and maybe he wasn't necessarily involved, but the other guys were. And then you think, well,

Kelli (53:28.756)
Antics. Right. Right.

Kelli (53:38.961)
Right, exactly.

Lori (53:54.835)
Is he really not doing it when they're doing the whole thing? Yeah.

Kelli (53:59.343)
Right, and he's going three weeks at a clip? Come on. That's a long time.

Lori (54:02.042)
Yeah, those, those fishing trips like that, they, yeah.

Wendy (54:07.344)
Yes, yes it is.

Kelli (54:08.438)
And you also have situations where, you know, some people get like work wives and work husbands, and sometimes it can cross the line.

Lori (54:16.079)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Lori (54:21.827)
Right, not always.

Kelli (54:23.128)
So maybe she and Dino was a situation where, you know, it might've crossed the line. Nothing physical.

Lori (54:28.985)
Right, was, well, or right, or she started to rely on him too much and they were starting to have a relationship. Maybe it wasn't physical, but maybe it started to get a little more attacked emotional, you know, so who knows?

Kelli (54:34.434)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (54:46.328)
Right. But at she owned it.

Wendy (54:47.954)
Yeah, 100%, 100%. I like this show. I like these wives. I don't want to see a whole season about talking about Rula and Brian, because I don't really like them that much.

Lori (54:48.762)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (55:02.614)
I agree with you. Yeah, I agree with you. I did watch a little bit of the after show. I couldn't watch the whole thing. But Joellen, so now Rula is sitting with Rosie and Ashley in the after show. But Joellen, the only thing I wrote down about it was Joellen did say that when it came to the pictures of Rula's husband with the girl sitting on his lap and him kissing her, she was just, I don't know if this is true or not, but this is what she said. She was just scrolling through Instagram.

Lori (55:13.915)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (55:30.818)
The mistress posted the pics for like 15 minutes and then took them down, but she follows her. She happens to follow this woman because their kids went to daycare together and she's known her for like eight years. So she's like, I was literally just on Instagram scrolling. I don't know if that's true. It's a likely story, but.

Lori (55:42.447)
Right.

Wendy (55:50.246)
I saw a very short part of it as well and that's exactly what I saw. I actually think it is true. I think that's very plausible.

Kelli (55:54.755)
Yeah, it could very well be true. It's a believable story.

Wendy (55:59.174)
I think it's possible.

Lori (55:59.196)
Because you know sometimes, sometimes people, you know sometimes you pick the wrong picture that you want to post.

Wendy (56:08.848)
I'm sure Lori does that.

Lori (56:09.859)
Yeah, I do that. But I'm just saying like, you know, like, yeah, I understand. Right. What's this thing? Because why else, why else would you post those pictures? No, we don't need to. Thank you. We're good.

Wendy (56:13.138)
All of a sudden she thinks she's putting up a picture of a chair and then it's not a chair.

Kelli (56:13.664)
I am in the chat, Lori.

Kelli (56:23.49)
Did we ever tell the I am in the chat story?

Wendy (56:30.822)
Lori, I'm in the group chat. I'm in the group chat. That could be what happened. That is very plausible as well. That's plausible.

Kelli (56:31.0)
So, probably.

Lori (56:32.579)
Sometimes it's all too much.

That's all. Yeah, you don't know. You don't know. I mean, why else would you post those pictures?

Kelli (56:40.482)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (56:46.342)
It's stupid! I mean, it makes no damn sense unless you want to piss somebody off.

Lori (56:48.793)
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Maybe it was like...

Kelli (56:52.238)
She definitely posted those pictures on purpose. Come on.

Wendy (56:55.866)
I definitely think so. I like Laurie's explanation.

Kelli (56:57.662)
And it was probably at a time where Rula thought that the affair was over and this bitch was like, just a reminder, it's not over. It's still going on and here's your proof.

Wendy (57:05.974)
no.

Lori (57:09.716)
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

It's crazy. Yes, me.

Kelli (57:18.69)
This guy's bad news.

Wendy (57:19.088)
why we have to, why don't we have to black her face out? Why can't we see her? We're going to find out who she is. Yeah.

Kelli (57:23.464)
Yeah, let's see her. Maybe, maybe rule is like I don't want to give her any more life, you know?

Lori (57:29.893)
Cockroach.

Wendy (57:31.75)
The cockroach. Yeah.

Kelli (57:31.852)
Right. Right.

Wendy (57:35.836)
you know what I wanted to tell you? Remember we were talking about Amanda being in her confessional and going to Beverly Hills by herself? Remember we talked about that? The reason she did those confessionals by herself is that Sutton was supposed to be there with her. And I think this might come out at the reunion or comes out someplace. And Sutton was delayed coming back from a trip or her flight was delayed and she couldn't make it there.

Lori (57:44.709)
Yeah, yeah,

Lori (57:52.433)
yeah, yeah, I saw that online. Yeah.

Wendy (58:03.268)
So, because the production and crew and everything were there, Amanda just did it by herself. Yes, the after show. The after show. Yeah, so I was like, okay, that makes sense. know, because we all had a lot to say about that. We, you know, we come up with our own ideas of what we think is going on, but we're not right. Yeah, we're just.

Kelli (58:07.133)
like the after show? Okay. Okay.

Lori (58:08.601)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why she was by herself. Yeah, I had seen that.

Lori (58:21.275)
That's right. That's right. Like maybe she meant to post the casserole. She posted a picture. What doctor? Maybe the picture of her newly done ingrown toenail that she was going to post was right next to the picture on the lap. Wrong one. Maybe it's under...

Kelli (58:21.486)
That's what we're doing here. Bye.

Wendy (58:36.978)
Hahaha!

Kelli (58:41.23)
Ha ha ha

Wendy (58:41.244)
There you go.

I mean, anything's possible. Anything's possible.

Kelli (58:46.499)
That's right.

Lori (58:47.343)
Yeah, maybe it was under the podiatry folder.

Kelli (58:50.606)
Hahahaha

Wendy (58:51.09)
You

Kelli (58:54.99)
Alright, we're almost out of an hour, ladies.

Wendy (58:55.74)
don't have anything else. Yep, I got nothing else. All right, well, I'm gonna still do it at the end too. Thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Lori (58:56.783)
Yeah, goodbye.

Kelli (58:59.95)
We're good.

Kelli (59:07.151)
Bye.