Feb. 17, 2026

Traitors - Three Round Tables to Survive

Traitors - Three Round Tables to Survive

Send a text Traitors - Three Round Tables to Survive 🎭 Traitors S4 E9 – “Think Outside the Box” Podcast Summary This episode is pure chaos — paranoia is peaking, alliances are cracking, and the faithful are officially spiraling. Eric is stunned to learn Rob is a traitor and is immediately brought into the turret. Rob lays it out: only three more round tables to survive. The strategy? Keep the heat off themselves and let the faithful self-destruct. Rob initially considers murdering Natalie, Do...

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Traitors - Three Round Tables to Survive

🎭 Traitors S4 E9 – “Think Outside the Box” Podcast Summary

This episode is pure chaos — paranoia is peaking, alliances are cracking, and the faithful are officially spiraling.

Eric is stunned to learn Rob is a traitor and is immediately brought into the turret. Rob lays it out: only three more round tables to survive. The strategy? Keep the heat off themselves and let the faithful self-destruct.

Rob initially considers murdering Natalie, Dorinda, or Stephen — but the game shifts quickly.

☕ Breakfast Fallout

Dorinda has been murdered, shocking the group.

Kristin feels safe sitting with Mark and Rob — the two she trusts most (yikes). Meanwhile, suspicion centers heavily on Johnny. Many believe if Johnny were a traitor, he’d recruit Tara. The house vibe? Johnny is doomed.

Tara, however, believes Stephen is the traitor — and she’s loud about it. Kristin pushes back, leading to a tense face-off where Tara insists she’s faithful.

Johnny feels the entire castle thinks he’s guilty and declares he has nothing to lose.

📦 The “Boxes” Mission

The cast climbs into literal boxes and answers questions about what they think the traitors are thinking.

Every correct answer is worth $500, with $18,000 on the line.

The group quickly decides to answer “Tara” for everything after seeing a pattern.

  • Most useful to traitors? (Traitors said Tara) – $1,000 won
  • Most manipulative? (Group guessed Natalie) – $0
  • Doesn’t deserve a place in the final? (Traitors said Tara)
  • Best traitor? (Everyone said Tara except Rob & Johnny)

Total winnings: $5,500 out of $18,000

Four players — Johnny, Tara, Natalie, and Kristin — are locked in boxes and face possible murder.

🔥 Round Table Disaster

Tensions explode.

  • Tara defends both herself and Johnny as faithfuls.
  • Johnny doubles down that Stephen is the traitor.
  • Natalie boldly says she has a 25% chance of being murdered and throws her vote at Stephen.
  • Rob secretly holds the dagger (double vote power).

The votes land:

Stephen is banished…

And he’s a faithful.

Another massive miss.

Now Johnny, Natalie, Tara, and Kristin must face the terrifying jack-in-the-box twist to see who’s murdered next.

Meanwhile, Rob and Eric sit safely in the turret as the faithful implode around them.

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Wendy (00:01.23)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.36)
I'm Kelly.

We Wine Whenever (00:05.453)
and I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:07.33)
We are talking about Traitors, season four, episode number nine, Think Outside the Box. I think that was a good title for this one.

Kelli (00:16.392)
Yeah, for sure.

Wendy (00:18.702)
We start off where Eric is finding out that Rob is the traitor because he chose him to be a traitor with him and he is completely shocked. It's so funny because he looks so innocent and just recently he looks very young but I think it's very deceiving because I don't think he's as young as I think he is. saw him on, yeah Eric, I saw him on social media performing in his like K-pop band and boy is he a performer. Like he's...

Kelli (00:40.55)
Eric.

Kelli (00:48.5)
What's broad? He's from K-pop?

We Wine Whenever (00:50.422)
really? that's so funny. I had no idea.

Wendy (00:50.506)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (00:53.3)
I no idea.

Wendy (00:55.506)
Yeah, I mean, I'm calling it K-pop because that's the genre. Like, he's a performer. No, no, no. No.

Kelli (00:59.969)
I thought that was the name of a band.

We Wine Whenever (01:02.266)
I can't.

Kelli (01:04.646)
My daughter's 22, so I'm out of the boy band. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (01:07.45)
You're out of the loop, yeah.

Wendy (01:07.47)
Yeah, it's like, yeah. So that's what he does. And I was like, wow. He doesn't seem like a performer type because he's very, right, right. So Rob gives him his cloak and he leads him up to the turret and he's like, okay, we have to murder somebody tonight.

Kelli (01:13.076)
Wow, I didn't know that.

We Wine Whenever (01:21.322)
No, no, no.

Kelli (01:22.034)
Yeah, he seems very reserved.

Wendy (01:34.914)
We find out that there's only three more round tables left, which we were just discussing this. So this is episode nine. There's another round table in this episode. And then 10 and 11, there's two more episodes and that's it. And then there's the reunion. So Rob thinks John is gonna get voted out at the next round table.

We Wine Whenever (01:48.282)
And then that's it.

Wendy (02:01.56)
John? Why do I... Johnny. I was like, what? Johnny. Okay. I'm like, who's John? Johnny.

Kelli (02:02.654)
Johnny.

We Wine Whenever (02:06.202)
Yeah. I love how Eric said he didn't like needed a helmet and an adult diaper. Dealing with China. Now the a traitor is just so funny.

Kelli (02:15.218)
Yeah.

Wendy (02:15.587)
my God, that was so funny.

Wendy (02:21.582)
Rob thinks that they need to murder either Natalie, Dorinda, or Steven. And he kind of talks about like why, and honestly I think he's right. I think that those three that he picks are the right three based on the fact that I do believe he's right, that Johnny's probably gonna go at the next round table. You know, at this point, like that's what we're seeing, right?

We Wine Whenever (02:34.883)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (02:44.328)
The only reason I don't think Dorinda was a good choice or is a good choice is because I think they really could have ran with the whole all housewives being traders thing and gotten her banished at some point. Like I feel like they, I feel like she would have been a good save until the end.

Wendy (02:53.251)
Housewife.

We Wine Whenever (03:03.566)
Yeah, just to ilk it out just a little bit longer. She could have been like, you're just in case, you know, because I'm sure he's thinking, I only got two more to go. Like, I got this. Like, no problem. You always need a little something in your back pocket.

Wendy (03:03.713)
No, you're right.

Kelli (03:07.261)
Yep.

Kelli (03:14.366)
Yep.

Yeah, little insurance, yeah.

Wendy (03:19.49)
No, I agree with that. So then, breakfast the next morning, Rob, Kristin, and Mark are the first in the room. And Kristin is excited to come to breakfast because she's there with Mark and Rob. And those are the two that she trusts the most, which she said in the last episode, too. I was like...

Kelli (03:32.116)
She says it again. She says it again. It's so funny.

We Wine Whenever (03:32.442)
You You know, it's amazing what a pretty face will do because all of those faithfuls are just so lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo

Kelli (03:42.281)
Yeah.

Kelli (03:47.544)
yeah, with Rob. I don't think not a one of them suspects him yet, but I think his time is coming, but.

We Wine Whenever (03:55.714)
Yeah. Yeah. And I have a feeling the person to sniff him out may be Kristen.

Kelli (04:04.552)
Yeah. Yes.

Wendy (04:08.59)
So the three of them are talking about who they think should go next. And they're also mentioning Johnny. They think that if Johnny were a trader that he could have recruited Tara because they know that there's, they think, they don't know. They don't know anything. They think that there's gonna be another trader recruited because they think that there's only one left, but they don't exactly know how.

We Wine Whenever (04:27.597)
Anything, right.

Wendy (04:34.784)
many they even started with, but they do know that they've killed three traitors at this point. So next in is Tara and Eric. And Tara said, you know, that, you know, we should talk. And then all of a sudden, Johnny and Maura walk in and Johnny says he feels like he used to find out he he feels used to find out that Candice was the traitor because he was very close with Candice. He really was.

We Wine Whenever (04:36.217)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (05:02.13)
Yeah. Yeah. And it put a target on his back that that is solid friendship with her.

We Wine Whenever (05:03.162)
you

Wendy (05:04.32)
I mean, that's how the game works. Yes, it-

We Wine Whenever (05:10.233)
Yeah.

Wendy (05:10.54)
Yeah, that's how it works though, Johnny, I'm sorry to say. And this is when we find out it was actually Dorinda that got killed. They chose to kill Dorinda. Mark pulls Stephen aside and says that he feels safe with him and all of sudden Eric walks in the kitchen and they all agree that Johnny is the one that needs to go.

Then Tara pulls Johnny aside and says, you know, last night in the kitchen, your name came up. So she wants him to know that his name's coming up quite a bit.

We Wine Whenever (05:46.159)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (05:47.952)
Kelli (05:49.052)
Eric seemed very impressed with the way Rob was playing Faithful, knowing he's a traitor, you know.

We Wine Whenever (05:55.002)
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause he is now like a horrible trader, Eric. Like horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible. Good Lord. Poor thing. a, this is a mess, a hot mess.

Wendy (05:55.211)
yeah.

Kelli (06:00.97)
he's probably worse than Rinna at this point. Worse than Rinna. Yeah. You better pull it together.

Wendy (06:02.358)
Ha

Kelli (06:11.216)
Unless they kill... Natalie. They gotta kill Natalie. Unless they pull- Unless he pulls it together.

Wendy (06:11.534)
Yeah.

Wendy (06:20.238)
So then Tara pulls Kristen aside and she wants to talk to her and Tara said she has a strong feeling that it's Stephen and Kristen's like, I don't think it's Stephen. Kristen says, was shocked that she said this. It seems to me like you're scared all the time, Tara. And Tara's like, well, if you think it's me, then say it. She's like, I do. I do think you're a traitor. And Tara's like, no, no, I'm a faithful.

Which honestly, I actually liked that interaction because it seemed real, right?

We Wine Whenever (06:52.612)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (06:55.476)
So they're on the way to the mission. They're all brainstorming who they think. At this point, I feel like they're all still saying Johnny.

So the next mission is they have to get into these boxes and then they have to answer questions about the traders.

We Wine Whenever (07:17.71)
Before we get to that, just want to talk about one scene. Okay? So it's Eric, Rob and Maura. Do you know the scene I'm talking about? Rob is laying down on the couch. Okay? And Eric is so funny. He's saying that Rob is like an eagle soaring in the sky, you know, laying down with his crop top vest and I'm sitting there like just trying to act normal. But there is a little tiny scene where

Wendy (07:19.521)
Okay.

Wendy (07:26.126)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (07:29.427)
Yes.

Wendy (07:29.581)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (07:47.834)
Rob is sitting next to Maura. He's laying down and she's sitting and she's next to him and he is touching her knee.

Kelli (07:57.619)
Really? Because people online are saying like they just want them to like hit it. Like they just they want Robin Moore to hit it.

We Wine Whenever (07:58.807)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (08:05.924)
He's touching her knee briefly, but I was just like, Mm-hmm. And I'm not calling it. Yeah.

Kelli (08:09.446)
So maybe they are. Maybe when they call it a night, they're not calling it a night.

Wendy (08:15.886)
Well, no, they have to, no, cause they're locked in their rooms. They can't interact when they call it a night.

We Wine Whenever (08:22.104)
But anyway, I just want to say I really dig it when Rob meowed. saying. Just putting it out there.

Wendy (08:28.556)
hahahaha

Kelli (08:30.184)
Yeah, but I think he's getting a little cocky. I do think he's getting a little cocky.

We Wine Whenever (08:33.422)
yeah, absolutely, absolutely. He's getting a little cocky and I think he's probably starting to get like a little paranoid. Like he's trying to, he's like talking to Phil in the silence because of the little bit of paranoia. Like I think he's getting cocky and paranoid at the same time.

Kelli (08:40.445)
Yeah.

Kelli (08:50.364)
Yeah, and I don't doubt for a second he makes it all the way to the end and wins it, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't. I wouldn't be surprised either way. Like don't have a strong feeling anymore either way if he's gonna make it or not. Because I really thought his friendship with Colton was gonna out him, but then he killed Colton, so there goes that theory.

We Wine Whenever (08:57.528)
Right. Either way.

Either way. Yeah.

Wendy (09:10.646)
Yeah, exactly. Okay, so the challenge today is they all have to get in these boxes and they have to answer questions about the traders. And then the traders are obviously getting in the boxes too with them. But then the traders need to get out of the boxes without them hearing them and give what their answer is.

is about the question. Did I explain that?

We Wine Whenever (09:41.338)
I would have taken my shoes off. Yeah, I would have taken my shoes off. I kept thinking that, like I would have taken my shoes off. I know I was very confused about that. I was like, I got confused.

Kelli (09:44.98)
me ask you something though. Doesn't this indicate who faithfuls are with every answer?

Kelli (09:52.817)
unless the traders aren't going to answer honestly, which they didn't anyway. If they answered honestly, every answer was going to be a faithful. So through deduction.

Wendy (09:58.424)
Well, that's it. are not going to... Right, no, the traders were not answering honestly.

Kelli (10:08.04)
But the point of the game was for them to.

Wendy (10:12.078)
know that it was. was, it was, Well.

Kelli (10:13.62)
So then it was just a stupid random, like then it was just a random pick them. Like then how are you supposed to make money with that?

We Wine Whenever (10:19.866)
Right. Yeah, I was confused.

Wendy (10:20.238)
But that's what they all are, be honest with you. But that's what they all are. They're kind of all this kind of random thing, because there's always usually an opportunity to get a shield and to give up money, or for the traitor to kill and not, you know what I mean? They're always given these circumstances where they can throw the game so that it's in their favor. So.

Kelli (10:44.402)
Yeah, I did not, I didn't really like this. I didn't really understand. I didn't really like this. Yeah, I didn't, I was like, doesn't make any sense.

We Wine Whenever (10:47.94)
Yeah, it confused me too. I was just like, what?

Yeah. And another thing, you know, that the noises when Rob and Eric had to get out of their boxes, when they had to get out, those were added after. Those boxes didn't make noise. You know, they made like creaks when it opened and creaks when they walked down the stairs. I was like, bullshit.

Wendy (11:03.436)
boxes.

Kelli (11:08.502)
I'm sure.

Kelli (11:16.828)
If they did, the people in the boxes next to them were gonna know.

We Wine Whenever (11:18.968)
Right, those, no, those boxes had to be soundproof and they added that just for, you know, drama sake.

Kelli (11:25.48)
I mean, the one time Rob leaps over the side and lands on the dirt, doesn't even use the steps. It's like, okay, nobody heard you land. You're that nimble, you're that.

We Wine Whenever (11:31.31)
Yeah. they weren't necessarily, right. And they weren't necessarily, well he is a cat. Meow. But anyway, they weren't even talking quietly amongst themselves once they got out of the boxes. So they had to be soundproof.

Kelli (11:44.252)
right.

Wendy (11:49.134)
Yeah, I agree with that. So they were going to get $500 for each correct answer that they got. They could get a possible total of $18,000. The first question was, who do the traders think is the most useful to them?

So Rob said Johnny.

Wendy (12:16.418)
But the traders, right, the traders chose Tara as the most useful. So two of them got it right. Two of them picked Johnny. So they got $1,000 for that first question. The next question was, who do the traders think is the most manipulative? And the traders decide that they're gonna answer Tara to all the questions.

Kelli (12:16.776)
Yeah, because he's a distraction.

Wendy (12:45.452)
Because why not? Like, let's just...

Kelli (12:48.892)
Yeah, that's, I mean that was smart.

We Wine Whenever (12:51.406)
Yeah, just throw the whole thing.

Wendy (12:51.98)
Right. Right. that question, six players say Natalie, so no money was won. Who do the traders think doesn't deserve a place in the final? Again, they say Tara. Johnny says Tara.

Kelli (12:53.246)
Right.

Wendy (13:16.763)
And Rob says Tara, and he knew that he was saying Tara, right? So they got two right that time.

Kelli (13:24.606)
Yeah, and Eric voted for Tara in the first question.

Wendy (13:28.342)
Right. And then who do the traders think would make the best trader? Now the faithfuls are deciding that it's a pattern. So they say that they're all, we're all gonna say it's Tara. So we can get some money. everyone says Tara except for Rob and Johnny who.

Kelli (13:37.81)
Yeah, they're like, all right, everybody just vote for Tara, because that's what they're doing.

We Wine Whenever (13:42.842)
So we can get some money.

Kelli (13:44.465)
Bye.

Kelli (13:51.27)
No, Johnny and Tara.

Wendy (13:54.358)
Who said Mark?

Kelli (13:56.255)
Johnny and Tara were the ones who, I mean, maybe Rob didn't either, but Johnny and Tara did not say Tara after everybody just agreed that we were all gonna say Tara. Those two knuckleheads didn't say Tara.

We Wine Whenever (14:03.726)
Yes, they did. Right. Right. Yeah.

Wendy (14:06.946)
They wrote Mark. They wrote Mark.

Kelli (14:10.676)
I'm like, what are you doing? I mean, that's putting a target on your back now.

We Wine Whenever (14:12.25)
Right now.

Kelli (14:17.841)
I mean, Johnny already had

We Wine Whenever (14:19.727)
Right.

Wendy (14:20.202)
Right. So then it's who do the traders want a shortlist for murder tonight? So four players will be locked in their boxes. There's no money on the line for this question. At this point, they only won fifty five hundred dollars in the money questions out of the possible eighteen thousand. So the four players will be locked in with no money on the line and they are the ones who are going to be left to be possibly murdered tonight. So.

locked in their boxes are Johnny, Tara, Natalie, and Kristen. And one of them will be murdered tonight.

We Wine Whenever (14:59.552)
And who picked them to stay in the boxes? The traders?

Wendy (15:03.35)
Yes, yes, Rob and Eric pick them.

Kelli (15:04.168)
Yeah, they had to give us short-lit, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (15:05.742)
But then... Okay, but then...

Couldn't you say to yourself, well I guess those four players can't be traitors.

Kelli (15:14.034)
Yes. But, you could put yourself in there. You could put yourself in there.

Wendy (15:15.424)
You can, but you can put yourself in there. You can put yourself in there. You can put yourself in there to throw it off. You absolutely can. Right.

We Wine Whenever (15:17.85)
Oh, if you were a traitor, could, you can put your something. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. I got, yeah, I was confused. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I got confused. Right. Right. Right.

Kelli (15:24.082)
Yeah, yeah, but I agree with you. It's like if you're playing this truthfully, but that's the whole point, they're not playing it truthfully.

Wendy (15:32.716)
You can't. You can't play it truthfully. It's a game of deception.

We Wine Whenever (15:36.452)
Right.

Kelli (15:36.626)
That's why I would never be good at it. I can never go on this show.

Wendy (15:45.085)
so.

Kelli (15:49.973)
I thought they had to stay. I thought it was going to be like the thing where they were tied to the tree where they had to stay there. Right. Then all of a sudden they're like, all right, come out of the box, go back to the castle. I'm like, what are we doing?

We Wine Whenever (15:54.746)
I was like leaving there all night

Wendy (15:56.887)
I did too.

Wendy (16:00.674)
I did too. I did too. So they get out of the boxes, they go back to the castle and Natalie and Kristen pull Robin Mark aside and Natalie is telling them that she thinks something like something is going on with Steven. There's something about him that's off. Rob is ready to jump on the Steven like train and Kristen's like, I don't care what happens. No matter what happens, I'm writing Tara's name down. Kristen is convinced that it's Tara.

And she told Tara that she thought it was Tara earlier, so, and she's sticking to that.

We Wine Whenever (16:32.068)
Right.

Wendy (16:35.63)
Eric is a complete mess about his first round table as a trader. He's like, I don't, you know, he doesn't know what to do.

We Wine Whenever (16:43.738)
It's a mess.

Kelli (16:44.254)
and he said, so I'm not gonna say anything.

Wendy (16:47.286)
Right. Honestly, he wasn't that vocal before anyway.

We Wine Whenever (16:48.666)
He's a mess.

We Wine Whenever (16:53.177)
Right.

Kelli (16:54.298)
He was with a few of them though. he was with Lisa. He was with, wasn't he one of the ones tied to the tree? He was the one who said the laugh was that girl who got banished that night. So a couple of them, he has been pretty vocal.

Wendy (17:09.901)
Yes.

Wendy (17:16.845)
He has...

Kelli (17:16.981)
And side conversations with them, he's always given an opinion. So maybe she was focusing on that. Like he hasn't said shit today about anybody.

We Wine Whenever (17:26.692)
about anybody, yeah, yeah. He got into his head, his own head too much.

Kelli (17:31.122)
Yeah.

Wendy (17:32.3)
Yeah. So they get to the round table and this time Tara is the first one to talk and she said she feels like her and Johnny have the most to bring to the round table. And she starts right out with, I'm a faithful and I promise you that Johnny is a faithful. Okay, Tara. I don't know that that's gonna work.

Kelli (17:52.006)
Yeah, not a great move.

Wendy (17:56.078)
I think Mark said this in his confessional. I don't think he said this at the round table, but I wrote down that Mark said he's used to working with a partner in his line of work and dancing. And in an environment like this, he doesn't blindly trust somebody, which I get. I wouldn't blindly trust. mean, Tara and Johnny came in as very good friends. mean, she's the godmother.

Kelli (18:16.894)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (18:24.858)
Right. That's a different story. Yeah.

Wendy (18:26.742)
Right, he's the godmother to her child, but they don't know that, which blows my mind.

Kelli (18:31.732)
But not only that, listen, even if I went on a show with Eric, like, I don't know who they're asking to be a trader. It's not like somebody says I want to be a trader. Like, they designate that. you know.

Wendy (18:40.205)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (18:42.756)
Right.

Wendy (18:44.792)
Well, no, they do. They do say they sit down with Alan and they have a whole conversation about whether or not they want to be a trader or they want to be a faithful. They do. Yeah, but you don't know who's going to get chosen. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Kelli (18:53.076)
Okay, but it's not their, ultimately it's the show's choice. Right. So you can of course trust him with your child, but you're on a game, you're basically on a game show and you don't know who they're, they could very well have picked Johnny for a traitor. So to say like, I know he's not a tra, you really don't though.

We Wine Whenever (18:53.412)
before this show starts. right.

We Wine Whenever (19:17.102)
Right. Maybe that would have been a good one. That would have been a good twist.

Kelli (19:21.372)
Yeah, right. Yeah, if the producers knew how close they were, maybe they would have, but maybe they didn't know.

Wendy (19:22.721)
It would have been.

We Wine Whenever (19:23.77)
What have been a good twist? Now what are you to get trust? Yeah.

Wendy (19:27.864)
think the producers knew how close they were. I mean, I knew how close they were. Yeah.

Kelli (19:30.494)
Probably if they asked them both to be on the show

We Wine Whenever (19:30.647)
yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (19:39.534)
So Johnny said, you know, we are best friends and Kristen said well you both think the same thing and they said yeah, we think it's Stephen and Johnny said like I saw you talking to Kansas alone. I feel like one trader was warning another trader and

We Wine Whenever (19:53.348)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (19:55.097)
Now that was valid. What Natalie said, bringing up the gold again, it's like, my God, we're a gamer, she's not that savvy. Like we've gone over the gold thing. He was just looking for somebody to dump their gold into his bag.

Wendy (20:00.814)
I know.

We Wine Whenever (20:01.523)
Enough with the friggin' Right. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (20:10.788)
Right.

Kelli (20:12.968)
But what Johnny said made sense.

We Wine Whenever (20:15.257)
Yes.

Wendy (20:16.076)
Right. And what Kristen said made sense too, because she said to Tara, you know, the day that I tell you I don't trust you and I think that you're a traitor is the day that I'm up for murder. Right? I mean, that's valid. Right.

Kelli (20:25.81)
Yeah, yeah wasn't true, but she's right. Yeah for sure

We Wine Whenever (20:26.532)
Mm-hmm.

Right,

Wendy (20:33.294)
Mark said that, Johnny, Candice pushed for you to be in the art museum so that you would have the ability to try and get a shield. And why did she want you there? And Johnny's like, well, I'm not a traitor. I don't know why she, he felt betrayed by Candice.

Kelli (20:58.132)
There were no shield opportunities in this activity, right?

Wendy (21:01.428)
No, no there weren't. I think because they're getting, you know, towards the end.

We Wine Whenever (21:02.179)
now.

Kelli (21:07.988)
Right. Right. It's kind of every man for themselves now.

Wendy (21:10.796)
Right? And there's... Yeah.

Kelli (21:15.356)
Natalie said to Rob, say you have the dagger.

We Wine Whenever (21:19.224)
Yeah, I was like...

Kelli (21:20.936)
Well, I don't know why she said that. I mean, he only has, now after tonight, he only has one more opportunity to use it. They said you can only use it for the next three or four, I forget which number. So yeah, so he does have to use it, I would imagine, the next round table. But why do you think she said that to him? Like, you have to say you have it.

Wendy (21:33.646)
4.

Wendy (21:42.146)
I think she said that because only the five people that were with him when he got it knows that he had it. So she wanted it out there. she wanted him to... If he refused to say it, one, that's gonna make him look guilty, right? Because I think Steven was there too. Wasn't Steven there?

Kelli (22:07.112)
Yeah, Steven was Eric.

We Wine Whenever (22:11.63)
don't remember.

Kelli (22:12.104)
I forget, I know Colton was one. Mark?

Wendy (22:14.862)
Colton was.

Kelli (22:17.374)
Maybe it was Colton, Mark, Natalie, Rob, and somebody else. No, Candice wasn't there.

Wendy (22:20.76)
Candice.

Wendy (22:24.888)
Candice wasn't there.

Kelli (22:26.514)
She- no, she didn't get any gold. She lost all her gold.

Wendy (22:29.894)
yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. I don't know, but I mean, listen, I'm kind of glad she did it. Because the other people don't know who has the dagger and Alan keeps bringing it up. The power of the dagger gets two votes. So I would want to know if somebody else at the table knew who had that power, wouldn't you?

Kelli (22:40.252)
Right. Right.

Right.

We Wine Whenever (22:53.86)
So what do you guys think? Do you think?

Wendy (22:56.224)
Natalie said, actually, you know what? She said, I'm the only one from the Dagger group up for murder tonight.

Okay, so of all the people that were in the dagger group, she's the only one up for murder. So she wanted, you know, she wanted to be known that I know something about Rob and he needs to own it.

We Wine Whenever (23:19.13)
So do you guys think that Rob chose Eric so that he can...

You know, ditching when he needs to. yeah. yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (23:29.326)
stab him in the back, 100%, 100%.

Kelli (23:31.828)
Probably yeah, I think I think Rob wants this all for himself, and he's you know Probably gonna. mean I you know again. I don't know either way, but yeah, I don't I don't think Rob's looking to share the

We Wine Whenever (23:44.75)
No, the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. No. Yeah. Meow meow.

Kelli (23:46.716)
Yeah, exactly. The kitty. Rob's not sharing the kitty.

Wendy (23:51.534)
I don't think he is either. I don't think he is either. And I'll be honest with you, think Rob probably needs the money more than some of them. So it's time to vote now after Rob admits to having the dagger and Tara votes for Stephen, Stephen votes for Johnny, Maura votes for Johnny, Eric votes for Stephen.

Kelli (24:01.022)
Right.

Wendy (24:21.048)
Johnny votes for Stephen. Kristen votes for Tara, which she said she was gonna do. Natalie votes for Stephen. Rob votes for Stephen. And Mark votes for Tara. So Stephen gets voted out.

We Wine Whenever (24:34.884)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (24:37.716)
I'm sad to see him go, I like Stephen.

Wendy (24:40.35)
I did too. I did too. But you know what? I think he played a very good faithful. And I think if he didn't get voted out this time, he could have been one of the ones that won it also. It was kind of like, I mean, I know you guys didn't watch it last season though, but with Dolores, like Dolores was a faithful and she won it as a faithful, not by herself. There was other faithfuls that she won it with. And

Kelli (24:52.819)
I know.

Kelli (25:07.092)
Who did you win it with, do you remember?

Wendy (25:09.898)
It was Dolores, was Dylan Efron, and I don't remember who else.

Kelli (25:17.5)
Okay, so they split it three ways.

Wendy (25:20.11)
Three or four, there may have been four. It was three or four. And they kept having the opportunity to take it themselves and they didn't. Which I thought was admirable to be quite honest with you. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So now we know Johnny, Natalie, Tara and Kristen are up for murder.

Kelli (25:37.564)
Yeah, that's a true faithful right there, right?

Wendy (25:50.414)
and Rob and Eric are in the turk and

The four of them must now go back to their jack-in-the-box. And they go and they do this like jack-in-the-box thing. And if it pops up, then they've been murdered.

We Wine Whenever (26:00.25)
Yeah, it's creepy. Creepy.

We Wine Whenever (26:05.422)
dee dee dee dee dee dee dee

Kelli (26:11.25)
Yeah, so we don't know yet. Who do you think it's going to be?

Wendy (26:11.86)
And we don't know.

I think if they're smart.

I Natalie or Kristen.

Kelli (26:26.43)
think it's gonna be Natalie. Yeah, you know what, Natalie or Kristen. I mean, they're probably smarter to get rid of Kristen because she is smart and she is gonna catch on real quick. I don't think Natalie's gonna catch on as quickly.

We Wine Whenever (26:34.58)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yep.

Wendy (26:37.144)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (26:39.692)
I feel like Natalie lets kind of, she's a little like bullheaded and kind of lets her emotions get in the way like a little bit like Candice did. So I think definitely taking out the cooler headed one is definitely the way to go.

Kelli (26:47.59)
Absolutely. Yeah.

Wendy (26:49.442)
Yes.

Kelli (26:56.85)
Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting there's only two more episodes though, because there's quite a decent amount of people left. But I guess if two get, you know, I guess the last episode. Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting, though. It was a good episode. I'm enjoying it.

Wendy (26:58.755)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (27:02.362)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:14.937)
I don't know either.

Wendy (27:19.424)
I am too. I'm looking forward to the next episode. I look forward to this one every week because I like to see it goes by so quick. yeah. Right. I mean, it's not. No, it's not. Because there's no stupid fighting. Yeah. There's no stupid fighting.

Kelli (27:26.374)
Mm-hmm. It does go by quick. It's not like watching a How's Wives show, that's for sure.

Because they're brutal lately. Brutal. Exactly. I mean, I am enjoying Beverly Hills. Rachel Zoe. Top notch addition to the franchise. Top notch. But Potomac...

We Wine Whenever (27:41.828)
Yeah, I enjoy her.

Yeah, I like her.

Wendy (27:50.358)
Yeah. I mean, the interesting thing about Mark Ballas, I don't know if you ladies know this, but he is such a fan of this game. He has watched every season from every country, every episode and studied it. Like before he was on it, he was, him and his wife, me too, him and his wife. Yes, exactly, exactly. So I kind of am rooting for him, to be honest with you. I would like to see him take it all because...

We Wine Whenever (28:04.519)
that's so funny. That's funny.

Kelli (28:05.3)
Aww, well I'm glad he's on it then. Like that's gold.

Kelli (28:15.335)
me too, me too.

Wendy (28:19.988)
He is such a fan of the game, you know? I would like to see the Faithfuls win. I would, but something tells me Rob is gonna do it. Something tells me he's gonna do it.

We Wine Whenever (28:22.222)
That's so funny.

Kelli (28:22.515)
Yeah.

Kelli (28:28.326)
I wouldn't be surprised. wouldn't surprise me one bit if he makes it all the way to the end. I do not think Eric's making it all the way to the end.

We Wine Whenever (28:28.642)
I think so.

We Wine Whenever (28:33.711)
that.

Wendy (28:36.513)
No, I don't either.

We Wine Whenever (28:36.642)
Yep. Rob that nimble cat.

Wendy (28:40.024)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (28:41.593)
He he.

Wendy (28:42.762)
Alright, so until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye!

Kelli (28:50.676)
Bye.

We Wine Whenever (28:51.758)
Bye.