Wendy (00:01.078)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.504)
Kelly.

We Wine Whenever (00:05.447)
and I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:07.242)
We are talking about Traitors, season 4, episode number 10. Do you know the enemy? So this is the second to last episode. There's only one episode left after this.

Kelli (00:22.232)
can't believe this.

Wendy (00:24.488)
I know. I know.

Kelli (00:26.05)
Now, Wendy, I wanted to ask you because, know, again, this is the first time I'm watching this. excuse me, is the first season I'm watching of this show. I feel like Rob has been playing an excellent trader. Has anyone else played as a trader this well?

Wendy (00:40.414)
I do too.

Wendy (00:45.728)
Well, I only saw one other season. I saw last season. It's not like I've been watching this forever. I saw last season. Boston Robb was on last season, and he was a traitor. And he turned on other traitors. you know, he didn't make it to the end, though. So.

Kelli (00:50.936)
Okay.

Kelli (01:05.016)
You didn't. I think you have to be willing to turn on other traders to be successful as a trader. You have to.

We Wine Whenever (01:05.149)
There you go.

Wendy (01:11.574)
You do. You do. You do.

We Wine Whenever (01:12.799)
L.A.U.

Kelli (01:14.05)
Yeah, especially if they're like, people are talking about them and like what Lisa and ultimately Candace, like if they're talking about them and bringing them up at the round table, you kind of have to go with it. You don't really have, you know, a leg to stand on if you don't.

We Wine Whenever (01:25.289)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (01:29.447)
Well, you, you can't play chess without saying checkmate. Like it's, it's just, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.

Kelli (01:33.858)
Right, at some point it's really a one person game. One person's trying to get to the finish line. Although I feel like Moira knows Rob is a traitor and I feel like he's breaking her to the end with him if he makes it. If he makes it.

We Wine Whenever (01:51.625)
Maybe.

Kelli (01:53.814)
I mean, she really trusts him.

Wendy (01:53.898)
We'll have to see. we... Yeah, she does really trust him.

We Wine Whenever (01:57.501)
Listen, all you have to do is in the first couple of minutes of the show, look at her looking at him. She looks at him very adoringly. So I think your boy Rob has got game. think he's got game. Serious game. Yeah.

Kelli (02:03.798)
Yeah, she does.

Kelli (02:10.078)
Mm-hmm. For sure.

Wendy (02:12.074)
Yeah.

We start out at breakfast and the first ones in are Maura and Rob. And Rob's like, well, who do you think died? And Rob said, I think it was Natalie. Next in is Eric and Mark. Maura's talking about how she doesn't trust Johnny. And then Mark and Kristen is their number one. Like she thinks that.

She trusts Mark and Kristen, but she doesn't trust Johnny.

Kelli (02:49.666)
and those were the four up for murder.

Wendy (02:49.814)
I thought it was odd that Tara came in by herself.

Kelli (02:56.834)
Well, I think they did that because it made you wonder if then if Johnny got killed. Yeah, because typically they would probably come in together. Yeah.

Wendy (03:02.218)
Johnny was going to come, right. And then Johnny comes in next.

We Wine Whenever (03:03.089)
Of course, yes.

Wendy (03:09.366)
So Johnny tells them what happened. You we went into this room and there was an envelope and it said you were listed for murder. You need to go to the dungeon. And then there was this Jack in the Box creepy playing thing and the traitors, if a traitor popped out, then they were murdered. So Natalie came in next and they find out that Kristen was murdered, which.

We Wine Whenever (03:35.419)
And Eric is still saying nothing. Nothing.

Kelli (03:39.48)
Silent. Zip lip.

Wendy (03:39.711)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (03:42.281)
the worst trader ever. He's the worst. He's the worst. He's the worst. Like if somebody else, what is wrong with these people that, I mean, if you can't clock him. Yeah.

Kelli (03:44.91)
He's really bad.

Wendy (03:45.558)
Yeah, I know. I know.

Kelli (03:56.386)
I know. Well, honestly, it was probably smart of Rob to choose him because he is such a bad trader that people are gonna, you know, like Kristin was onto it right away.

We Wine Whenever (04:04.358)
Right. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Yeah.

Wendy (04:10.752)
So, Alan announces that tonight is the last round table, but I don't understand what's gonna happen next week because if tonight is the last round table and we know someone's gonna get murdered, there's gotta be another way to eliminate people because there's still too many left. So I don't.

We Wine Whenever (04:28.062)
was confused about that too. I was like, my math's not math-ing and I don't really know this show and I'm like, I don't understand.

Kelli (04:28.086)
Right, was... Yeah, me too.

Wendy (04:35.922)
Yeah, we're gonna have to, I mean, we'll find out together. We'll find out together, right?

We Wine Whenever (04:38.82)
There you go

Kelli (04:40.394)
Unless the murder, well no, because we know it's only one person because of the way the show ended. I was thinking maybe they were gonna murder more than one person at once, but no, they're not.

Wendy (04:51.112)
It could, I mean, I'm thinking it could be, it could be maybe some sort of elimination based on the challenge or something, you know? I don't know though. Yeah. So Tara pulls Natalie's eyes and says, you know, it's not you, you, you know, do you think it's Rob? And she said, well, Candice threw out Rob's name. So now they're starting to think about Rob. Like all of a sudden, now they're remembering what Candice did and.

Kelli (04:56.812)
yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (04:58.108)
Yeah, maybe three people go out or something. I don't know.

Wendy (05:20.222)
And Tara's like, you know, everyone likes Rob, so like, we never looked at him because it was so obvious, and it's so true, right? They're finally like, their brains are starting to think. Natalie brings up, go ahead.

Kelli (05:27.426)
Yeah, she clocked it. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (05:31.164)
He's good at playing kind of, he's good at playing like cute dumb farmer boy with the overalls and you know, yeah, piece of wheat sticking out his mouth and you know, he does that whole honky tonky little schtick very, very, very well.

Kelli (05:37.772)
Yes. Naive.

Kelli (05:44.686)
Yeah

Kelli (05:49.602)
Yeah.

I got the visual and backed up leaning on a truck with one knee up. know it. Yeah. I think we just described a Budweiser commercial.

Wendy (05:52.51)
He does.

We Wine Whenever (05:53.439)
Exactly. Yeah. With a beer in the hand. But we'll have you in... Yes. We'll have you in the back seat with your pants off real quick. Real quick like. Exactly. Exactly.

Wendy (06:03.764)
Hahaha

Kelli (06:08.399)
Exactly! We know why we can all picture this so quickly.

Wendy (06:08.751)
Ha

Wendy (06:19.176)
Natalie brings up the fact that Rob still has the two votes, which is a good time to bring this up. And it makes sense that now they have to go talk to Maura and see what she says, see what she thinks. Mark is talking to Rob and he says, it's not you. Like, look me in the eyes. And Rob looks him in the eyes. He's like, it's not me. He's like,

Kelli (06:35.64)
See what she tinks.

We Wine Whenever (06:37.338)
which it thinks. So cute.

We Wine Whenever (06:47.164)
He actually says yes. He says yes is what he says. He asks him, he says, look me in the eye and Rob goes, yes. And then says something right afterwards and then they keep walking. And Rob says, yes, it's bizarre. You have to watch it. He says, yes.

Wendy (06:52.831)
What do mean?

Kelli (07:00.43)
He says, tell me you're not a trader.

Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (07:05.333)
okay. I didn't pick that up. Okay. So then Mark said to Rob, what about Eric? You know, the last thing Kristen said to me was to, you know, watch out for Eric. Rob wants to make sure that they banish Natalie. A little bit, yeah. I mean, because honestly, I'm sure he's got a long game and he still needs Eric.

Kelli (07:25.966)
He tried to have Eric's back a little bit.

We Wine Whenever (07:33.634)
Mm-hmm, absolutely. Yeah. He ain't lookin' to end with him and split the kitty.

Kelli (07:33.89)
Yep, yep, yeah.

Wendy (07:35.007)
Right?

Wendy (07:41.628)
No, Rob said Natalie didn't vote for Candace when it was the obvious thing. So now, you know, that's how they're trying to get it back onto Natalie. Natalie is talking to Tara and Maura and they're saying, like, why do you think Candace mentioned Rob?

Kelli (07:42.018)
Right, right.

Kelli (07:53.294)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (07:58.147)
Mora.

Wendy (08:05.952)
That's a good point. Why did Candice mention Rob? I mean, she said his name for a reason. I mean, we know that. Right. And they know that.

Kelli (08:11.532)
Mm-hmm. And she was a traitor.

Kelli (08:16.962)
And they're all like, why are we still here? And I mean, Moira has, mean, the rest of them have to think, like, because they, if we're seeing interactions between Rob and Moira, they're seeing it even more. So they have to be thinking like, why is Moira still there? And you know, if she's Rob's, you know.

We Wine Whenever (08:31.336)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (08:34.942)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (08:39.51)
Because what Morris says, you know, it couldn't be Rob. She's, you know. But then she said, well, if it came to the end and it was that Rob was a traitor that, you know, she would storm out because she's not convinced. Like, there's no way. I don't know. I think that was just being theatrical.

We Wine Whenever (08:56.678)
Of course. It's a show. Yeah. Good thing.

Kelli (08:57.142)
I do too, that's why I think she knows that he's a traitor.

We Wine Whenever (09:03.89)
Yeah, who knows?

Wendy (09:05.43)
Mark asked Eric what he thinks and he said, hunch is Natalie. Johnny said there's, if we don't get a trader at this round table tonight, we're F'd, which, okay. I mean, that's pretty much every round table though. Like that's the whole point of it, right? So they're on their way to the challenge and Natalie and Tara and Johnny are in the car together and they're all saying that they think it's Rob.

We Wine Whenever (09:20.434)
Yep. Yeah, exactly. Yep.

Kelli (09:20.994)
Yeah

That is true.

Wendy (09:36.222)
This challenge was a little bit different, this carousel challenge, where the...

We Wine Whenever (09:39.988)
Now, did you notice, did you notice right before they went on this challenge, the guy, some guy went out to get a delivery from the gates of the castle and Amazon did the feature with the package and he opened it up and it was a stuffed animal that they used for the, did you catch that Amazon feature? Yeah. Yeah. So it's the guy who works at the castle, goes outside the gates, picks up the Amazon box, opens it and it's one of those

Kelli (09:57.111)
No, I didn't notice that at all.

Wendy (09:59.687)
No.

We Wine Whenever (10:09.179)
weird stuffed animals that they used for the challenge, but it was in like the Amazon box. I was like, look at the Amazon feature. Amazon feature.

Kelli (10:14.424)
So was an Amazon ad, right, right, Uh-huh.

Wendy (10:18.558)
No, I missed it.

Kelli (10:20.49)
Somebody's got to pay for this show.

We Wine Whenever (10:22.363)
Exactly.

Wendy (10:22.902)
Yeah. So this is a, this challenge is a carousel ride. So they're going to all be strapped in and this carousel thing is going to be spinning them around and they have to jump off the carousel and they have to go find a bag of money. It's hidden in the stuffed animals and the bags can have anywhere from $750 to $5,000. Then they have to get back to the ride so that they can bank their money.

and they get to go on another spin. If they don't get any money, they're not allowed to go on another spin, right? But...

Kelli (11:01.838)
So Eric and Tara can't ride the carousel for medical reasons.

We Wine Whenever (11:05.841)
I didn't think it was a fair challenge. It's not a fair challenge. It's not fair. You get dizzy, right? And you're having to run back and forth and you're dizzy. Yeah. Yeah. I was, I thought the same thing. was like, what? Yeah, they get, right. But you could have figured that out before you knew what the challenge was. Yeah. So it don't matter.

Kelli (11:07.894)
It wasn't because the whole point of being on the carousel is that you get disoriented and they're not going. I mean, obviously if they can't do it for medical reasons, they can't do it for medical reasons, but unfair. I mean, they didn't win. wait, did Eric win the shield?

Wendy (11:26.973)
No, they didn't win.

We Wine Whenever (11:31.741)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (11:32.214)
Yeah.

Kelli (11:32.231)
We'll get there, we'll get there.

Wendy (11:38.432)
So we didn't know this when he explained it. So they take away a seat. So it's like musical chairs.

Kelli (11:45.974)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (11:48.15)
We find out after the first one, Natalie's the first one back with a bag and hers is $750. Then Maura comes back with $1,000. Johnny's got $1,500. Eric has $2,500. Tara has $1,000. Mark gets $750. And Rob has got a $2,500 bag. And he starts running back and there's no seats left. So obviously, his bag would have been helpful to the pot, but.

Kelli (12:14.071)
Yeah.

Wendy (12:14.208)
Then he starts giving Mark a hard time. Why did you go back? Yours was only $7.50. Mark knew that there was gonna be one less. Give me a break. I thought that, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (12:22.697)
Yeah, he was just having a hissy fit.

Kelli (12:27.138)
Yeah, he went way too hard with that.

We Wine Whenever (12:30.985)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (12:31.08)
I thought so too. I thought so too.

Kelli (12:32.478)
way too, I feel like he gave himself away. Because he's never acted like that before. We've also...

We Wine Whenever (12:36.039)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (12:40.466)
No.

We Wine Whenever (12:40.499)
Yeah, he should just stick to the calm, cool.

Kelli (12:44.728)
But we've also never seen him lose a challenge like that. He's obviously a competitive male. So yeah, but we've just never seen that side of him. So I don't know, I thought it was a little.

We Wine Whenever (12:48.414)
Right, right.

Wendy (12:50.88)
competitive.

We Wine Whenever (12:51.709)
Right. Used to winning. Yeah.

Wendy (13:01.226)
So Rob is out now because he didn't get a seat. We find that they're going to spin the carousel five times and that they have the ability to earn $30,000.

Wendy (13:16.118)
Natalie clocks the fact that Rob was upset about getting out of the challenge, which again, it's because she's a smart player. The first spin they added $7,500 to the pot. The next time going around, Natalie is helping Maura because she was having a hard time getting it open. And she figured like, let's get this, you know, and get maybe in her good graces.

And then there's one seat left and Johnny and Mark are still searching for gold. Mark gets it and Johnny's out.

Next spin, Tara's back and then Eric and then Natalie and one seat's left and more and Mark are the two left trying to get it but more gets it so Mark is out.

At this point they've banked $20,500.

Wendy (14:13.046)
Next spin, Eric is back with 2,500 and then Maura and then Natalie and then Tara's out. So now there's $23,750 and the last two are Maura and Eric. And Eric is the last one back, so he is the one who gets the shields.

Kelli (14:33.9)
Yeah, I that's right. Eric got the shield.

Wendy (14:37.494)
So they added 24,500 to the pot.

After the challenge, they start heading back and Natalie is telling Mark that with Tara there that she thinks that it's Rob.

Mark is recording.

We Wine Whenever (14:59.519)
Yeah, I wish I wish they would say how much they're up to total. I don't know. was thinking that the other day. was like.

Kelli (15:04.267)
I know.

Wendy (15:04.982)
He normally does. They normally do give you what they're at to for the game, but they didn't this time, so.

We Wine Whenever (15:12.393)
Right? I haven't, you know, noticed it recently.

Kelli (15:14.348)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (15:15.69)
I think they did last episode. I'll double check my notes from last episode. Mark is starting to doubt his trust in Rob. Johnny tells Eric that Natalie is pushing Rob. Maura's telling Johnny, Eric, and Rob she thinks it's Natalie.

Wendy (15:37.879)
pretty much everyone at this point.

Kelli (15:39.526)
Johnny's like flip-flopping back and forth, you know depending on who he's talking to he's like yeah, could be Rob and then he's like but it could be Natalie This is is that I would be terrible at this game because this is how I would be

We Wine Whenever (15:44.691)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, well, it could be, yeah. I don't know.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (15:53.418)
Well, it's so funny because Johnny said to Tara, like, we're not very smart. Like, we should just, like, listen to other people. Like, we should just do what other people are doing. It's funny. It's funny.

We Wine Whenever (15:58.528)
I see what other people think.

Kelli (16:01.922)
That's really funny. That is really funny.

We Wine Whenever (16:05.009)
I saw an interview with Natalie and she was bitchin' about Tara and Johnny. Yeah, she was was being like with two kids on a playground, like, they gave a shit, is that they were on the merry-go-round together. Like, they didn't, weren't, you know what I mean? Like, okay, yeah, faithful, blah, blah, blah, but whatever.

Wendy (16:11.829)
Really?

Wendy (16:18.996)
Hahaha.

Kelli (16:21.73)
Well, listen, they probably don't need the money. mean, they're Olympic champions, you know. And I think Natalie, I mean, we've said this before. This episode, when she clocks Rob, you're like, okay, I get it why she's a gamer. But we've said it, like leading up to this, she's just very immature. She's very sensitive. She takes things personal. So it's surprising that she's a gamer. And I think she was really hurt because she had that whole conversation.

We Wine Whenever (16:26.717)
Yeah, there's like, let's just have some fun. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (16:38.207)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (16:49.89)
with Johnny and Tara in the car and they were all on the same page about Rob and then we see what happens.

We Wine Whenever (16:49.961)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Right. And it's her own fault. Because she messed it up. She let her emotions get the best of her and she went too hard at Tara. Tara could have swung. Tara was just trying to like get something out and it wasn't real clear. But you just bulldozed onto it and you messed it up. Because she just went too hard at her and she didn't give her a chance. And if she would have backed up a little bit...

Kelli (17:07.286)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (17:18.05)
Yep. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (17:25.808)
and said just the right thing in just the right voice. She could have reeled it back.

Kelli (17:28.343)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:32.14)
Yeah, no, I agree.

Wendy (17:37.078)
So when it gets to the round table, and this time Tara is the first one to speak. I was like, But she said Johnny and I came first and brought everything to the table so hopefully somebody else can lead it because I don't want to bring out another, I don't want to vote out another faithful. So she started talking first, but she pretty much said, OK, you guys, I'm passing the baton.

Kelli (17:59.553)
Yeah, she said she talked first, but she didn't say anything of substance

We Wine Whenever (17:59.998)
Right. Right. Yes, exactly.

Wendy (18:03.11)
Exactly, exactly. And then Mark says, well, does any, does anyone have anything that they want to say that they haven't had the balls to say before? And Rob said, well, Natalie, you know, I've been suspicious of you, Natalie. And I felt, you know, that you're changing your demeanor the last few days, which, you know, that was his time to like, he knows, he knows when he needs to talk. And

We Wine Whenever (18:24.191)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (18:30.858)
Then they start questioning Natalie. You know, she's the last gamer. And she's like, if I was a traitor, like, why would I kill off all the other gamers? Well, because that's what gamers do. I mean, and, right.

We Wine Whenever (18:41.62)
Right.

Kelli (18:41.994)
Yeah, because they're smart. For the same reason everybody else, you know, murdered them. Because they're smart and they were going to figure it out.

Wendy (18:47.188)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (18:48.073)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (18:51.86)
Natalie said, yesterday when I wasn't murdered, I said to myself, why am I still here? She did actually say that, but.

We Wine Whenever (18:58.451)
Yeah, but why did you even say that? You're a smart gamer person. Why wouldn't you still be here?

Wendy (19:00.67)
I know, like what point does that make?

Kelli (19:03.82)
I mean, she is good at the challenges, so she does make the money.

Wendy (19:12.288)
So she said, maybe I have a traitor angel looking out for me. That was a dumb thing. I don't know why she said that.

We Wine Whenever (19:16.162)
No. Yeah, that was dumb thing. Yeah, I was like, no, no, that's not it.

Kelli (19:17.838)
That was...

Wendy (19:21.14)
And then she said Rob's name.

Kelli (19:21.39)
But when she brings up, yeah, she brings up Candace voting for Rob and Rob's big defenses, yeah, I thought that was fucking weird. Like that's all you got? He could have said a million different things. That's all he had. Yeah, it was fine in the end, yeah. Yeah, you know what, maybe he just feels like less is more.

We Wine Whenever (19:31.229)
Yeah, see, it's great. Yeah, that's yeah. And it was fine, wasn't it? I know, but it was fine in the end. It worked.

Wendy (19:31.466)
Hahaha!

We Wine Whenever (19:47.955)
Maybe, yeah, he should go with that. Especially with him, because when he does more, it's no good.

Wendy (19:49.298)
It is the- It is more.

Kelli (19:54.124)
Right. Right.

Wendy (19:54.314)
Yeah.

And she said, I could feel like Candace is really smart and I feel like her voting for you was weird. Like I think we need to pay attention to things like this that don't make sense. Then Mark agrees that Candace voting for Rob was, you know, super out of left.

Rob said, does anyone want to hear? Does anyone want you here by my side? Like, does anyone want to be here by the, what does it say?

We Wine Whenever (20:24.956)
I don't know, you wrote it.

Wendy (20:26.878)
I know Rob said, does anyone want to hear? Rob said the vote thing with Candace, his reason with the Candace, the vote thing with Candace, I just thought it was f-ing weird. It wasn't forceful. It was almost like, yeah, I dropped a fork. He did mention that about how he dropped the fork.

We Wine Whenever (20:41.683)
Yeah. The fork, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (20:44.302)
yeah.

Wendy (20:51.774)
Natalie said, I want to be honest, I've been trying to trust people and listening to people in the game. I was told something else by some people and now it's very different. And we know she's talking about Tara and Johnny.

Kelli (21:04.824)
Yeah.

Wendy (21:07.412)
And Tara's like, are you talking about our conversation? And she's like, yeah, like you and Johnny, like you need to speak up.

And John is like, we never agreed that we were gonna vote. Anyway, we said we need the numbers, which they did say. I mean, the two of them both said like, not, we're just gotta, we gotta follow and do what everyone else does. Like, we don't know.

We Wine Whenever (21:27.839)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (21:28.108)
Right. Right. Right.

Wendy (21:31.816)
And then the no, they are, which honestly, again, is make some obvious faithfuls, to be honest with you, because.

Kelli (21:31.864)
They're being very honest about it at least.

Kelli (21:39.596)
Yeah, I agree.

Wendy (21:44.052)
So then Alan announces the time for talk is over, so it's time to vote. And he asks if anyone wants to use the power of the sword with the two votes, and Rob raises his hand. So whoever he votes for is going to get two votes. And everyone voted for Natalie, except for Natalie who voted for Tara.

We Wine Whenever (22:03.817)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (22:06.31)
I mean, she didn't even vote for Rob. She should have voted for Rob. If she really had that hunch, again, she was, she's voting with her emotions. She should have voted for Rob because if you really think he's a traitor and she really was onto it, this is gonna give them cause, well, I guess this is the last round table though, so I guess maybe it doesn't matter. But again, she's still voting with emotion.

We Wine Whenever (22:13.021)
Yeah, why wouldn't you keep writing?

Right, that's the problem. Yeah.

Wendy (22:17.856)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (22:24.745)
Then, cheers.

We Wine Whenever (22:30.463)
Yeah, but still try. Why not? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And then she had that whole little nasty thing with Johnny and I was just like, okay. Yeah. See, you just, no girl. So who do you think is it? Who do think it's called?

Kelli (22:38.178)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (22:48.802)
I don't know, but I think Johnny definitely figured out that Rob and Eric are the traitors. I think Johnny really, you know, I don't know who they're gonna kill. Who's left? So Rob and Eric, the traitors, right? Tara and Johnny, Mark. Who else is left? Maura. I think Tara or Johnny are gonna get killed.

We Wine Whenever (23:06.143)
and more.

Wendy (23:06.454)
and more.

We Wine Whenever (23:13.257)
What do think, Wendy? You think Mark? I was thinking Mark. Because I think Rob's thinking is Tara, even though she thinks it's me, she's not quite that... Her and Johnny aren't that great at the game. They're not that great at the game. They're not that persuasive enough. They're not going to want to send another faithful by speaking up. So if you get rid of Mark, that just leaves...

Wendy (23:13.44)
I think Mark. Mark.

Kelli (23:15.821)
You think, Mark?

Wendy (23:19.914)
I think more.

Wendy (23:30.774)
She's not persuasive enough. Right.

We Wine Whenever (23:43.071)
Tara, Johnny, and Maura, correct? That's manageable. That's manageable. Like if I was Rob, that would be my gig.

Wendy (23:47.67)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (23:51.501)
Yeah.

Yeah, I mean the strategy has to change now if there's no more round tables because now we're not voting anybody off anymore. So who knows how this is going to go and if it comes down to challenges where people are going to be eliminated, you do want the weaker people in the challenges. So that would mean Johnny, Tara, Maura, you know. Yeah, yeah, that does make sense.

We Wine Whenever (24:11.039)
So, right? Right, get rid of Mark. So, definitely makes the most sense. So, we shall see. We shall see.

Wendy (24:17.418)
And tonight, that was the last traitor's murder. So, yeah, we have to see what's gonna happen. I think it's Mark that's gonna go, but.

We Wine Whenever (24:29.097)
I think that would be the smart thing.

Wendy (24:32.928)
Then they announced that the faithful will be brutally murdered in front of everyone right here, right now. So he calls them all out and there's one casket sitting there.

Kelli (24:44.13)
Mora really thinks it's her. I mean, unless she's just saying that.

We Wine Whenever (24:46.121)
Mm-hmm.

Right. Well, you know, there's Rob saying the same thing. know, he likes to play it up with that stuff too. You know, so who knows? Who knows? So I'm just wondering, they like gonna make them like lay down in the casket and put the lid on and then walk it off or something? Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. No, me neither.

Wendy (24:50.046)
I th- yeah.

Kelli (24:53.934)
Well, that's true. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. For sure.

Wendy (24:54.196)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:06.19)
I couldn't do it. couldn't do it

Wendy (25:12.822)
And guess we'll have to wait till tomorrow, well, till the next episode, which is Thursday. And I believe the reunion is on afterwards too.

We Wine Whenever (25:15.902)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:17.507)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:21.282)
Yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (25:21.691)
Yeah. So we shall see.

Wendy (25:26.186)
We shall see. I enjoy this one. I definitely enjoy Traders. I like the game aspect. Yeah.

Kelli (25:30.879)
me too. This is a great show. Yeah. And it was a good cast. Like, I liked everybody on the cast.

Wendy (25:36.982)
It's a great cast.

Kelli (25:38.582)
Yeah, there's just a couple people that they could never put on, so I don't have to be like, I'm not watching it, you know? I mean, specifically one, but there's some other people out there. No, she was on House of Villains.

Wendy (25:44.489)
You

We Wine Whenever (25:48.691)
Didn't that happen already?

Wendy (25:51.326)
Yeah, she was on House of Villains.

We Wine Whenever (25:56.331)
I think she'll be really good on this show come on. He's so funny

Kelli (25:59.138)
thumbs.

Kelli (26:03.822)
She couldn't find her way around the castle.

Wendy (26:03.85)
Lori and I will watch it.

We Wine Whenever (26:06.491)
I think it would be a really good episode if they did all Housewives.

Kelli (26:11.534)
I agree with that. I would like to see an all housewives cast.

Wendy (26:12.159)
I did too.

We Wine Whenever (26:14.804)
I think that would be very, very, very good.

Kelli (26:19.66)
Yeah.

Well, anyone who doesn't live in New Jersey who's listening or watching, please pray for us, because we're supposed to get hit with another snowstorm tonight. And we're over it, because literally the last snowstorm just melted away two days ago. I was at the salon yesterday and my friend Meg, she's so funny, she cracks me up. She went outside to get something from her car and she came back in. She's like, it is criminally nice out there right now, waiting for this snow to come.

We Wine Whenever (26:29.905)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro.

We Wine Whenever (26:36.509)
Like today.

Wendy (26:47.328)
You

We Wine Whenever (26:47.645)
Yeah, it's so weird when it's warm right before it snows. It's just very odd. Yeah. So we'll see what happens on next time for traders.

Kelli (26:51.36)
It was beautiful yesterday. Yeah.

Wendy (26:58.25)
Yes, we will. In the meantime, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (26:58.306)
Yeah, looking forward to it.

We Wine Whenever (27:06.483)
Bye.

Kelli (27:06.745)
Bye.