Wendy (00:00.945)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy. We are talking about The Valley, Season 2, Episode Number 8. This one is called The Biggest Snake in the Grass.

Kelli (00:03.479)
I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:13.454)
Yeah. Well, I think Jason calls Jasmine that right at the end.

Wendy (00:16.379)
I know.

Yes, he does. We start out with Jesse driving in the car with his daughter Isabella. She's so cute. She really is. She's got a personality. Like she's got a little personality, which is what I like. And then we see Brittany is at home with Cruz. Janet and Jason are at home with their son Cameron and they're going over the colors of the scarves.

Kelli (00:27.699)
She's adorable.

Yes.

Yes.

Wendy (00:46.747)
And we find out that Jason is apparently colorblind because he thinks it's purple when it's actually blue.

Kelli (00:54.914)
funny because you can be colorblind and have like different like Eric's is orange and green but he can tell the difference between blue no actually he can't tell the difference between blue and purple I don't think yeah but there's like different yeah yeah

Wendy (01:08.059)
Yeah, there's different things, I know. And you know what, like who cares? I mean, I guess it matters for something, but who cares? Yeah, there you go. Then we see that they're at Sheena's house and she's having a party. I thought that was interesting that they're filming at her house and she's really not a cast member, right? And Brittany shows up and Janet and Jason are there.

Kelli (01:14.39)
If he has two different socks on, tell him. He's all right.

Wendy (01:36.509)
And this is the day after Brittany's shark party. And they start talking about what happened after the cameras stopped rolling and some people left. Before that happens, Janet is telling Brittany that Jax is texting her today and Brittany's still holding on to hope that rehab is going to work for him. I mean, bless her.

Kelli (01:50.019)
Yeah.

Wendy (02:05.585)
Kentucky little heart. Yeah, yeah, exactly. She's she talks about how she's very upset that he signed this lease without talking to her knowing that she now has the rental for another two and a half months. And, you know, she's got to pay the mortgage payments that he didn't pay. We find out that I had no idea about all these taxes. That's why it's so much money, her mortgage payment, because he didn't pay

Kelli (02:06.956)
Yeah, that's right. Because by the way, he's not in rehab.

Kelli (02:33.4)
Yeah.

Wendy (02:35.313)
back income taxes and now she's, I mean.

Kelli (02:39.97)
him though don't pay his income tax that he didn't I mean can't you just file separately it was they probably he's such a loser this guy he really is a big giant loser

Wendy (02:44.849)
I mean, the...

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Wendy (02:55.889)
He is. Brock is in the pool with Summer Moon and they're talking about what happened about the after party, after the party when they stopped filming and that Zach said something to Janet about her friend Jared that was horrible. They don't tell us exactly what he said, but it was, I know, like why are we even talking about this?

Kelli (03:11.17)
Who cares about Jared?

Jared is that loser from last year that was, wasn't he recording something? And somebody called him out for recording it? Like who cares about Jared?

Wendy (03:20.731)
Was he recording?

Wendy (03:27.235)
I agree. Who cares? I think wasn't he at the party where they were Janet wasn't at the party and they were telling Zach and Kristen she wasn't invited to the baby moon. That was him. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Kelli (03:37.856)
Yeah, that was at Kristen's launch for her t-shirts or something. Yeah, with his pink boots. Yeah, nobody cares about Jared, Janet. We barely care about you.

Wendy (03:48.166)
Yeah. So, so.

really don't like Janet. I really don't like her. So Janet is horrified. She can't even repeat what he said, but basically it was go F yourself. I mean, what is it that he could have possibly said?

Kelli (03:53.816)
Me neither. Me neither.

Kelli (04:08.45)
Listen, Janet, don't come to Jersey. If GoF yourself is going to insult you, do yourself a favor and do not come to Jersey. That's like what we say to our friends.

Wendy (04:10.973)
Yeah. Yeah, we do.

Kelli (04:20.712)
Certainly something I say to my husband.

Kelli (04:26.178)
Don't come to Jersey for more reasons than one, but most importantly, you will probably get offended by the way we speak.

Wendy (04:32.025)
Yes. So they're talking about this whole situation. And then we see Zach is talking to Kristin about this because Kristin and Zach are not at Sheena's house. And he, I guess he was drunk because he thought he said, F yourself. But Janet told Brittany something else. And then Brittany came out and started yelling at Zach and Zach feels like Brittany doesn't have his back.

And I could see where he would feel that way. I can, I I can. I don't know why Zach felt the need to give America a lesson about what the word hyperbole means. Speaking of that, did you hear?

Kelli (05:02.348)
I do too. I do too.

Kelli (05:15.062)
He really didn't. He's like, look it up.

Wendy (05:18.149)
Right. He's like, am I using this right? And who was he having one of the podcasts? Was it Tamara and Teddy? They couldn't pronounce the word. It was Hyper Bowl. It was Tamara, right? She was calling it Hyper Bowl. I'm like, my gosh, what is wrong with you two? And yes, I was like, you poor.

Kelli (05:28.141)
no, they couldn't, they couldn't.

Yes. Yes. Yeah. She, yes. Cause I was just listening to that.

Yeah, and she kept saying hypotheses. She kept saying something else.

Wendy (05:44.413)
And honestly, Teddy wasn't any better with it.

Kelli (05:48.598)
No, she wasn't.

Wendy (05:53.095)
So Zach is telling Kristen he feels like, know, Brittany doesn't hear him. He moved to LA by himself and she was all he had. Like she was his person and you know, he considers her family. And like they don't talk like they used to. And I can see that happening because when he first came out, you know, she was with Jax at the time and...

You know, he was there for her. You know, he's been there for her with Jax this whole time. And for whatever reason, Janet has not liked Zach. Like Janet has been coming for Zach. And I think it's a Kristen thing.

Kelli (06:32.504)
Something happened before the show started, because they weren't good in the first season.

Wendy (06:37.793)
No, they weren't good. you know, Zach says that they, him and Janet used to be friends and Janet maintains that they were never friends. And Kristin also says that her and Janet were friends. And Janet also admits that her and Kristin were friends, but we don't know what happened. We don't know what happened.

Kelli (06:44.845)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:58.093)
now.

Wendy (07:00.293)
I don't know.

Kelli (07:00.462)
I'll tell you what, you wanna wreck a big friend group, go on a reality TV show together. Because this group is damaged now. Lots of cracks in this foundation.

Wendy (07:06.31)
Yeah, right.

Wendy (07:10.651)
Yeah, it really is. It really is. So then we flash back to Sheena's house and Jason comes in and Janet makes a joke about whether or not he has his wedding ring on. And she's explaining to Sheena what Kristen said and Sheena said that Jasmine was invited today, but she's not coming because Janet's there.

Kelli (07:38.574)
And it's there.

Wendy (07:40.189)
Wendy (07:45.681)
Then Sheena jumps in and she's also kind of taking Janet and Jason's side. And she's like, Jason's such a good guy. He would never take off his wedding ring unless his finger was swollen from too much sodium. And I mean, we pretty much all agree about that. We've all agreed that Jason is not the guy. Nobody believed that rumor, right? Jasmine admitted she didn't even believe it. And Jason said when we first heard it, we...

Kelli (08:09.346)
Right, exactly.

Wendy (08:14.961)
you we laughed about it. But then when Janet got home and she was telling her mom about it, her mom was like, wait, what? And kind of, then they started thinking about it. And now all of a sudden they're upset.

Kelli (08:26.646)
Yeah, I'm not buying this whole thing.

I, it's funny because Janet's accusing Nia of pretending to have this perfect life. And now here's Janet being faced with some bullshit rumor about your husband. If it's not, listen, we went through, you know, we've gone through it. People, you know, have said things about us. If it's not true, you react differently than if it is true. So if it's not true, who gives a fuck? Like it doesn't matter.

Wendy (08:38.737)
Right.

Wendy (08:52.551)
Right.

Wendy (09:00.679)
Right. Right.

Kelli (09:02.818)
But I still don't think it's true, but I think that Janet's the one who's trying to pretend that her husband's perfect. Not Nia.

Wendy (09:12.401)
I think that she is, I think that that's true. And I also think that, I think that she wants to make herself more relevant. I think that that's what this is all about. I really do.

Kelli (09:22.38)
Yes, yes.

Right, like if she just let it go, then it would just be nothing. But if she feeds it, then it gives it light.

Wendy (09:28.835)
Right. It'd be nothing. Right. Exactly. Exactly. And they go on to say like they expect this bullshit from Kristen, but not from Jasmine. And Jason says, unless Jasmine apologizes that he can't move forward with her.

I was surprised that Jason and Jasmine have known each other for so long. Like they knew each other before he even knew Janet. Like they were friends. And I think that this whole thing is really kind of sad because jumping ahead again, but when they're at the beach and Jason asked to speak to to Jasmine, Janet keeps interrupting as she is like a little, like a chihuahua. I mean,

Kelli (09:47.094)
Okay, buddy.

Kelli (09:54.531)
Yeah.

Right.

Kelli (10:11.694)
So much. So much.

Wendy (10:15.738)
It was bad.

Kelli (10:17.198)
Very bad. I can't take Janet.

I can't take her.

Wendy (10:24.453)
And even Janet said, that girl came after my husband. Good luck, you just put a target on your back, bitch. She actually threatened Kristin. I mean, what does that mean? You're talking about Kristin's bullshit?

Kelli (10:36.482)
Yeah.

Right.

Meanwhile, did you see the social media post she put up? And listen people, don't agree with this at all, but she got, Janet got a threatening inbox message, a DM, I guess on Instagram or something, from a Bravo fan, which is terrible. But she just threatened her on national television.

Wendy (10:59.802)
No, that is terrible.

Right. Right.

Kelli (11:05.292)
Like, what are you doing? She's like a walking double standard.

Wendy (11:07.664)
Yeah, no, that's

Wendy (11:11.868)
Yeah.

Wendy (11:15.527)
So Janet and Jason get to the beach first and they have their metal detector. I have a metal detector. I want to go to the beach and bring it one day. No, no. Yeah, we should. We should definitely bring it. Brittany shows up and she said that she's got the chips and the snacks and the s'mores. She's such a little hostess, Brittany.

Kelli (11:26.146)
You never did it at Island Beach State Park? you should.

Kelli (11:42.305)
Yes, for sure.

Wendy (11:44.421)
And then Michelle and Aaron show up. What the heck is Aaron wearing on his head? Like what?

Wendy (11:51.805)
It's like, what is with this for hat?

Kelli (11:54.19)
was like he was like in Minnesota like where was he going with that?

Wendy (11:57.253)
Where's he going with that?

I don't know. I don't know. It was very windy, but still, yeah. It was odd. Then Luke and Kristen and Jasmine all show up together and Janet sees they're coming and she gets up. She's like, I gotta go to the bathroom. I'm like.

Kelli (12:04.553)
choice. I like them, but that was an odd choice.

Kelli (12:17.676)
Yeah, I know, so dramatic.

Wendy (12:21.405)
And then we see Kristin in her confessional. She says, if Janet doesn't stop talking about Danny and Nia, then I, you know, I'm going to have to keep coming for her. yeah, so just stop talking about Danny and Nia. I think it's so funny that, you know, Kristin is not even doing it for herself. She's doing it for somebody else. And I really liked Danny and Nia, so I'm here for it.

Kelli (12:31.618)
I'm coming for you. Yeah.

Kelli (12:43.362)
Me too, I'm here for it. Absolutely, I'm totally here for it. Totally here

Wendy (12:50.895)
Then Sheena, Brock and Lala show up to the beach. Again, I mean, the Lala portion of this beach visit was nothing.

Kelli (13:00.652)
No, she barely talked. And what Sheena was talking about was unnecessary.

Wendy (13:08.516)
Yeah, I mean...

Yeah, because Britney talks about having a hot date after the beach meetup. And then Britney says, OK, let's play Truth or Dare. was like, Jasmine and Kristin get up there and they walk away. like, you know, we're not playing that. And I'm actually glad that they did because so Janet again says to Sheena, Truth or Dare, how big is Brock's dick? Why would Janet ask that question?

Kelli (13:26.626)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (13:37.004)
Yeah, like who- nobody fucking cares- nobody is screwing him so nobody cares how big his dick is. It's so stupid!

Wendy (13:44.293)
I mean, it really is stupid. It really is. And even Sheena's like, if I was Sheena, I'd be like, I'm not answering that.

Kelli (13:53.016)
Yeah, like, why? Why do you want to know how big my husband's dick is? That's weird.

Wendy (13:59.341)
I agree that that's weird. It is weird, right?

Kelli (14:02.445)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:06.651)
I'm not even going go over what she said and what Brock said because it's ridiculous. Then Brock asks, what's your most embarrassing thing that happens during sex to Michelle? And Janet jumps in on this question again.

Kelli (14:09.004)
Yeah, it's, yeah. So ridiculous.

Wendy (14:28.597)
She said, did you ever get it up the butt? And Michelle's not answering her, which I'm glad she didn't. And again, why is Janet jumping in? Like, why? Why?

Kelli (14:40.579)
Right.

Just to be in the scene.

Wendy (14:45.469)
I don't know. It made no sense to me. Then they're sitting there and they're making the s'mores and that's when Jason goes over to Jasmine and asks if he can talk to her. And Janet comes and starts standing there and Jason's talking to Jasmine and Jasmine says, well, let me finish what I'm saying and you just cut me off and.

Wendy (15:14.471)
Jasmine is trying to talk to Jason. She can't talk to Jason because Janet keeps cutting her off. It's just like this whole big thing. Jasmine said that she heard it from a group of friends two years ago and she's like, I didn't even believe it then. I don't believe it now. Jasmine's saying the fact that it was brought up and that Janet brought it up. Like, what is it you want me to apologize for? Like I...

Kelli (15:42.856)
because I did take it that Jasmine told Kristen that two years ago. Like I didn't take it as this was something that was being brought up now. I think Kristen's using it now because of what Janet's doing to Nia and Danny, but it seemed to me like she heard it two years ago and is just bringing it up.

Wendy (15:47.536)
Right.

Wendy (15:52.525)
Right, exactly, Jas- Right.

Wendy (16:02.565)
Right. And she's like, what is it I'm apologizing for? Something that I said two years ago? Like, this doesn't even make sense.

Wendy (16:15.261)
Then, oh gosh, then Jasmine really just goes off on her, on Janet. She's like, you're a shitty friend, you're a shit ass friend, you're exhausting, you give Karen energy. Jasmine's like, we're done, and she walks away. Jason's trying to talk to Jasmine, telling her that, you know, she broke his heart, which I believe that Jason really is upset about this, to be quite honest with you. I do too, I do too.

Kelli (16:19.584)
yeah, you're a shitty friend.

Kelli (16:26.254)
She does give Karen energy.

Kelli (16:40.694)
I think he's collateral damage and all this. But listen, you're married to Janet, so you have to, you gotta take it, man. She's horrible.

Wendy (16:54.203)
Yeah. So then Janet says, know, to Jason, come on, let's go. And so they start, you know, walking away and Brock runs after them. In Jason, in his confession, he says, it seems like Jasmine really despises Janet and has for a long time. Well, I think it's because of the way that she comes at Jasmine, right?

Kelli (17:21.366)
And I don't think it's been like that a long time. think that.

you know, recently, although I don't know, Jasmine was going after Nia and Danny too, so. And honestly, with that situation, it seemed to me like Jasmine and Janet had a conversation before the season started, and they were basically like, I say we, you know, put the narrative out there that Danny's gotta drink a problem. Although this week's episode does kinda look like.

Wendy (17:32.154)
Yeah.

Wendy (17:52.599)
Yeah. then when Brock runs after Jason, Jason's like, he's been friends with Jasmine for seven years and it's, I can't even talk to her about this. And Brock gives Janet a hug and says, goodbye, Karen. Jason says,

Kelli (17:53.698)
Danny drinks too much.

Kelli (18:10.614)
I think that Jason and Jasmine need to sit down by themselves without Janet around.

Wendy (18:14.745)
I 100 % agree. 100 % agree. Like Janet needs to get out of this conversation. Because she just puts fuel on the fire.

Kelli (18:21.718)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, it's not going to be productive. She makes it an unproductive conversation.

Wendy (18:31.451)
Yes, exactly. So then the beach kind of we're done with the beach scene and Zach, Nia, Brittany and Kristen they all meet up.

Kelli (18:42.018)
Well, Zach, Nia, Danny and Jesse went to play cornhole instead of going to the beach.

Wendy (18:46.599)
that's right. That's right. Which were they not invited or they were? Yeah, we.

Kelli (18:48.567)
Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know. I thought it was real interesting that they weren't there. mean, yeah, I don't know. would understand why Zack, I mean, why Nia and Danny wouldn't wanna go. But I don't know.

Wendy (19:06.705)
Yeah, I don't know either.

Kelli (19:09.324)
I mean, Brittany planned it so you would think everybody would have been invited.

Wendy (19:12.603)
You would think, but maybe there was, he just didn't, I don't know. Brittany says her date went well. He's a nice guy. He's got a real job. He's a dad. And she said, we're just hanging out and having fun and good for her. That is funny.

Kelli (19:26.04)
funny she met him at Jack's bar.

Wendy (19:32.311)
So then Nia asks how the beach was and Kristen said it wasn't fun.

Zach brings up that they were fine with the comments the night before and then all of a sudden he wants an apology from Jasmine and...

Like they don't think that that's real. Like why? Like why was it okay the night before and then now we need an apology? Zach said Janet wants to dig her heels in and Zach says to Brittany, I feel like you never have my back when it comes to Janet. And I agree with him.

Kelli (20:00.8)
Right, right.

Kelli (20:12.322)
He, I think, did he say it? She holds him to a different standard than she does Janet. And I, I kind of see it. I see it.

Wendy (20:20.943)
I do too. I do too. And Kristen said the same thing about Brittany that when it comes to Janet, like Janet, she gives a pass too.

Kelli (20:25.335)
Right. Right.

Kelli (20:30.496)
It does seem like Janet might help her out with, with Cruz though. Yeah.

Wendy (20:34.557)
crews because they're physically close, like they're neighbors, right? But still.

Kelli (20:38.87)
Yeah, yeah. Now I agree, but sometimes you lean into that because of the help. And listen, Janet could be a disaster everywhere else and still be a good friend to Brittany. Both things can be true, but.

Wendy (20:44.496)
Yeah.

Wendy (20:53.669)
Yeah, I mean, I do think that Brittany, and I just think that this is who she is. She doesn't like to, she doesn't like to be the bad guy. She doesn't like to call people out. I mean, the fact that she's been with Jax this long and put up with all this bullshit, it shows you like, she really is very tolerant of bullshit.

Kelli (21:02.36)
She doesn't like confrontation or, yeah.

Kelli (21:16.064)
she is, yeah.

And think about what she's got going on in her life. you know, no disrespect to her friends, it's like, who gives a shit about a rumor about your husband with a ring? Like, my husband is a fucking disaster. He's recording me. I can't even talk to my sister-in-law. Like, she's got real problems, real shit problems going on.

Wendy (21:24.103)
Right.

Wendy (21:34.653)
Right, exactly.

Wendy (21:39.665)
Right.

Wendy (21:44.603)
Yeah, no, I agree. agree. And know, and not that, I can kind of see Brittany maybe taking Janice's side over Zach's just because of the simple fact, like you said, she's going through so much. Janice's a mom, she's a mom. Zach is a single guy. He's got a boyfriend, doesn't have a boyfriend, doesn't have, doesn't have.

Kelli (22:11.48)
Drama, like the drama.

Wendy (22:12.977)
doesn't have all the shit going on in his life that she does. by the same token, I could see where he'd be upset because he's always been there for her because he doesn't have all the other shit going on in his life and he could be there for her. you know what mean? Like I see both sides of this story.

Kelli (22:25.165)
Right.

Kelli (22:29.794)
Definitely.

Wendy (22:31.559)
Then we see Nia and Danny, go to a place called The Tox and they're going for a lymphatic massage.

Kelli (22:40.462)
Do you ever get those?

Wendy (22:41.849)
I've never had a lymphatic massage because it looks very rough.

Kelli (22:43.894)
I want to go get one now. I know, but it looks like it really like releases, like it gets rid of like puffiness and stuff like that.

Wendy (22:52.257)
Yeah, I will say that last time I got a massage, they used cupping. Now I've had cupping done at the chiropractor's office and it didn't really do anything, but this cupping was way more aggressive and I actually think it may have worked better. So I'm gonna try that again next time I go. And it's kind of the same kind of thing, like it's more of, it's more,

Kelli (23:13.064)
good.

Good.

Wendy (23:22.173)
getting your lymphatic system draining, basically. There's affirmations on the wall. And one of them says, I am perfectly myself. And Nia said, I don't feel perfectly myself. I was like, She's telling Danny, if they're going to have more children, she doesn't want to wait multiple years. And I get that. I know that there's 303. But my fertility doctor told me 100 years ago.

Kelli (23:25.037)
Right.

Kelli (23:36.141)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:51.677)
once in diapers, stay in diapers. So if you're gonna have kids, you gotta have them all at once. Like you can't, you can, but it's just easier for your body, for everything. And then she goes on to say like, she's the one who has to carry the baby, right? And she's the one who has to, know, she wants to her body back. She wants to have the mommy makeover. I want a mommy makeover too. And I totally, yeah, I can totally relate to that. And Danny's like, listen,

Kelli (24:01.261)
Yes.

Kelli (24:10.126)
She wants to have a mommy makeover. Yep.

I want a mommy makeover so bad.

Wendy (24:22.257)
in his confessional, he gets it. He's like, you know, fourth child, four under four, but they're in a very small apartment. He needs a bigger place. And I get that, but he's a, you know, he's a good guy. You know, we know that they're, they're, they have their fourth child. Yeah. And they're in a bigger place. So they, they made it work.

Kelli (24:36.824)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:41.39)
she had the baby.

Yep. And where he wanted to go, Santa Clarita, right? Of course.

Wendy (24:48.817)
Because it was more affordable. You can get a bigger place from, yeah, that's what, I mean, it makes sense, right? You don't want to be, you know, strapped with a crazy mortgage.

Kelli (24:53.634)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (24:57.676)
Hell no.

Wendy (25:02.915)
Then we see Janet and Jason and she's there with the baby again and Janet's telling Jason that like she hasn't been like this since the baby was born and now all she does is cry and she doesn't want the baby to feel that energy. I don't know if that was real. I really don't think it was.

Kelli (25:21.909)
No, it was bullshit.

It was, it was ridiculous.

Wendy (25:29.115)
I'm just surprised that he like cosigned that.

Kelli (25:32.686)
mean, Jason, you seem like a smart guy. You're an attorney. Although, that's, you know. But I mean, come on. Yeah. Like, why do you fall for this?

Wendy (25:37.467)
Yeah, that doesn't mean anything.

I know. I know.

So she's crying, she hands the baby over to Jason and you know.

Kelli (25:55.202)
Was she crying over the way Jasmine was talking to her? Was she crying over the rumor? What was she crying over?

Wendy (26:05.105)
She's crying over, supposedly, her friendship with Jasmine. She feels like Jasmine's discarding her friendship. And she doesn't, it's Jasmine she's crying over. But what about your part in it? I mean, seriously, like what about your part in it? She doesn't understand, like she doesn't get it. She doesn't understand why Jasmine doesn't.

Kelli (26:18.957)
Okay.

Kelli (26:22.413)
Right.

Wendy (26:33.561)
apologize to her or doesn't apologize to Jason. She doesn't see where her part is in it at all. She doesn't acknowledge it. Then she has Jason to bring the, you know, bring Cameron to her mom's house so that I guess they can talk or FaceTime. Yeah, that's nice. And then they FaceTime with Jax.

Kelli (26:47.406)
I guess they live close, Yeah.

Kelli (26:54.936)
This, I have strong feelings.

Wendy (26:58.297)
Tell me your feelings, because I do too.

Kelli (27:00.846)
So, Jack says that he pushed Brittany away and wants to break the cycle. He says he didn't see it because she let him get away with it for so long. He wishes she would have left him. He's fucking blaming her for the way he acted.

Wendy (27:18.225)
Yup, he sure is.

Kelli (27:20.17)
my God. Yeah, like, where are you? Because you're not getting therapy if you're still talking like this. You shouldn't be FaceTiming anybody. I mean, it's wild. What's going on here is wild.

Wendy (27:21.511)
Crazy, right?

Wendy (27:27.965)
It's so true.

Wendy (27:37.349)
It is wild how he wants to

Kelli (27:38.262)
He's blaming her for him verbally abusing her and emotionally abusing her.

Wendy (27:43.611)
Mm-hmm.

I mean, I literally wrote down, I actually call bullshit. Like it is bullshit. It's a hundred. And Jason is like, wow, Jax is really like, my gosh, this is really helping. I was like, what?

Kelli (27:57.88)
mean, we're worried about Jason back in Janet. Nevermind that. I mean, he's got, he's saying, he's saying he sees growth with Jacks. Are you kidding me?

Wendy (28:08.667)
I know. It's just insane, right?

Kelli (28:12.11)
Crazy!

Kelli (28:16.014)
Crazy.

Wendy (28:17.349)
And then he says, so then Jason says to Jax, know, Brittany's under a lot of stress. Like she's really stressed out about the mortgage. So maybe you could help her out, take some of the stress off of her by catching up the mortgage. And he says, well, I have a plan. I have a plan. was talking to my manager. so we have this very successful podcast.

I've said that she's going to get 100 % of the money, like we have this 50-50, until the mortgage is caught up.

Kelli (28:51.8)
Meanwhile, she's the only one who's been doing the podcast. He wasn't even doing it with her for three months.

Wendy (28:54.97)
Right.

Right. Right. I mean.

Wendy (29:05.394)
I just.

Kelli (29:06.614)
And turns out he didn't even do that, right?

Wendy (29:08.957)
No, I don't think so. mean, I think she wound up just taking it over and he got his own podcast. I think that's what wound up happening. And she has all these brand deals. Like she has been, and thank goodness she does. Right?

Kelli (29:23.948)
Yes, yes. So yeah, yeah. We find out later in the episode, know, at the end that he's sending her an email saying he talked to the mortgage company. You're not, you're not, if you're in rehab, you're not calling your mortgage company. And I'm gonna tell you how I know this because you can't even call your lawyer.

Wendy (29:38.608)
Yes.

Kelli (29:52.672)
if you're in a rehab. Somebody else has to do that for you.

Wendy (29:55.195)
Well, it's

He has a cell phone.

Kelli (30:00.524)
That's what I'm saying. He's not in rehab.

Wendy (30:04.411)
He is maintaining that he is in rehab.

So Brittany's back at her home and her mom is there. So she moved back in and she's like, we're just gonna stay here and I'll just keep paying the rent at the other place and just leave it empty for now. she calls her mom to hold the chair for her so that she can cover up the cameras, because Jax hid the ladders so she can't reach the cameras to cover them up.

Kelli (30:35.886)
I mean, what a fucking psycho. He's a psycho.

Wendy (30:39.831)
He really is a psycho. He really is.

Kelli (30:43.35)
You know what Britney should do? Britney should get off of reality TV and literally go into hiding with that kid. She should go into hiding. Cause I'm worried for her. I'm worried for Britney.

I hope she's got some good security around her.

Wendy (30:59.099)
I do too. I do too, because he's really crazy. He really is crazy. So then she's FaceTiming with his sister, Jenny, and she's saying that her wedding bands are missing, her rings are missing, they're not in the safe. And all of sudden a producer comes out and is like, Jack, I just got this message from Jack's. Like, I can hear everything she's saying. why is she talking bad about me? And she's like, what?

Kelli (31:01.57)
He's crazy.

Wendy (31:29.071)
He must have a bug in here. Like I covered up the cameras. There's no sound on the cameras. don't, I mean, I have sound on my cameras. I know, there's sound on the cameras, Britt. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Britt. are, yeah, don't think, and you know what? It doesn't surprise me. It really doesn't surprise me.

Kelli (31:35.822)
Most cameras do have sound.

Yeah, yeah, I think she was mistaken about that.

Kelli (31:47.182)
It wouldn't surprise me if he bugged the house either. Let's face it.

Wendy (31:50.841)
Right, right. So she's like,

Then while she's talking to Jenny, Jax is calling, Jenny.

Kelli (32:04.503)
sister.

Wendy (32:05.211)
The sister. So, Brittany's like, okay, I'll let you go, right? So she gets off the phone and then Jenny calls her back a couple minutes later and she's like, well, what did he want? Well, he's going to the hospital now because he said his blood pressure's really high. What? He called you because he knew that you were on the phone with Brittany and he...

Kelli (32:31.362)
Right. And Britney says, like, don't even know if I believe him.

Wendy (32:34.109)
Right, I don't even know why I believe him and like I don't want him to die. And even when she found out like he was listening, she's like, oh, Jax, like anybody else, like a normal reaction would be like, I'm out of here. Like this, this is, this is crazy.

Kelli (32:47.352)
Mm-hmm.

Right.

Wendy (32:52.061)
Then she's telling her mom about the email that she got from Jax that said, you know, he's trying to pay off the mortgage, but they let him know that it's in a pre-foreclosure, so he's not going to pay anything anymore. And he's telling her since, you know,

she's gonna have to take care of it. He's not gonna take, he's not gonna do anything. And then poor Brittany's like, what did I do to deserve this? Her mom's like, you didn't do anything. And then she just all of a sudden calls Cruz over and she starts hugging and loving on Cruz and gives him kisses. And he seems like such a bright light for her. And I'm so glad that she has him. I'm so glad that she has him because I really do think that she is a sweet.

Kelli (33:31.608)
Yeah, thank God.

Wendy (33:37.341)
person to the core. think she has a very good heart. I do. And someone like Jax has really, you know, broken her and she accepts, she's accepted this behavior for so long that it's like she doesn't even realize it. It's just like, just another day, you know.

Kelli (33:40.44)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:47.747)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:58.04)
I know, it's like, you know, she just got used to living that life, that it just became normal for her, which is very sad.

Wendy (34:06.469)
Yeah, she did. I listened to her podcast, I think is where I heard this. She, it's her house now. She saved it.

Kelli (34:17.71)
She saved it. I mean, listen, I don't think your house goes into pre-foreclosure if you don't pay for three months. It could, I guess. Well, I guess California's different.

Wendy (34:24.413)
I mean, think, yeah, and I do think that, I mean, we don't know the extent when we found out that there's all those tax issues that are associated with it, but the house is now hers. It's in her name. She saved the house. So I'm very happy. I was very happy to hear that. yeah, it was definitely her podcast. So she did a podcast where it was a bunch of like...

Kelli (34:38.85)
Good for her.

Good for her. Wow.

Wendy (34:50.151)
people were asking her questions. And it was good to hear like, you know, how she's doing and she's doing okay. She's doing okay. Yes, yes, she filed for divorce. I think actually we see that next week on the episode. I think we see her meeting with the lawyer, like can we file today? And I think the lawyer is like, yeah, we can file today. Like I think, I don't think it's finalized yet, but I do believe that she has filed.

Kelli (34:57.422)
She filed for divorce.

Kelli (35:04.007)
good. I think you're right. Yes. Yeah.

Kelli (35:13.144)
That's awesome.

Kelli (35:19.64)
Nice.

Wendy (35:22.533)
I don't actually have anything else about this episode, you? I wanted to bring up, on Bravo this week, there's a new show that started. It's called Next Gen NYC. I started watching and I didn't finish it, but I'm going to. My son and I are going to be covering it. We are going to be starting our own podcast and it's called Rouge and Review. And we're going be doing this show because we are kind of like the two different generations ourselves.

Matt and I are 40 years apart and we're going to be talking about other things like fashion and beauty and RuPaul's drag race. That's a, you know, a passion of his and just other fun stuff. But one of the things I saw that I wanted to bring up here is when I saw Ariana, my heart broke for her when she was talking in her confessional about how she has no money.

Her mom and dad spent it. She'd been on TV since she, I think said it was like seven or eight years old. No, five years old, since she was five years old. And she started making money with brand deals on Instagram when she was 14 years old and she was making a lot of money. They were very lucrative. And two years ago, she found out when she was 20 that there was no money and she doesn't know.

what it was spent on. And I think that is horrible. I think it's horrible.

Kelli (36:59.736)
So she did like a live earlier today that posted. She kind of backs off a little bit saying that, you know, she's not trying to make it look like her mom's like a monster or...

Wendy (37:02.896)
She did.

Wendy (37:11.793)
Well, of course she's going to say that. I was surprised that she said it. And honestly, I gave her lot of credit for saying it in that confessional.

Kelli (37:17.174)
Are you surprised she said it though? Like it's all for the show. It's all for the show. Like I just, feel like Bravo is doing a disservice to these kids by giving them this platform to basically just act like brats, spoiled brats. Like what did these kids do? I mean, Riley Burris, she's a college graduate. I don't know. You guys cover it, but I have no interest in it.

Wendy (37:21.821)
I don't

Wendy (37:42.535)
Yeah

Kelli (37:44.942)
Did you see Gia Giudice saying that there's only one way into New York City and one way out? I mean, how fucking stupid are you? I'm sorry, I just gotta say it. Please, people who don't live in the Tri-State area, are more than one way into the city and there's more than one way out. Please do not look at Gia Giudice as any type of representative of New Jersey, because she's a Joe.

Wendy (37:54.939)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (38:11.421)
you

Kelli (38:15.16)
But I'm very happy for you, Matt.

Wendy (38:16.701)
I'm really looking forward to really covering this. really am. I like it. I like a different generation. I like to see what the kids are doing. I'm curious. I'm curious. And I really love New York City, to be quite honest with you. And I love that it's set in New York City. So, you know, we'll wait and see.

Kelli (38:19.126)
And I'm really looking forward to listening to your podcast.

Kelli (38:43.372)
I honestly think if Ariana and Gia weren't on it, I would be more interested in it. I have no interest in watching either one of them. But if that is true about Ariana, I do feel terrible for her. But is it surprising to anybody that Kim Zolciak would steal money from her kid? It's not surprising at all.

Wendy (39:01.796)
No, it's not.

And not only does she say that, but she says that her mom, she's still giving her mom money. She's zealing.

Kelli (39:10.68)
Well, isn't there a clip of Kim calling her and asking her for money?

Wendy (39:15.907)
I think there might be. And her boyfriend, Hudson, who's in the city with her, they're having a conversation about it. he's like, you shouldn't be doing that. We don't even know what she's spending the money on. don't know what she spent the money on to begin with. And she's posting on her stories. She's drinking $200 bottles of wine. Why are you giving her money? And Ariana says to him,

Well, it's not really any of your business. And he said, well, it is my business because we are together. And she's like, what am I supposed to do? Like not give her money? Like I have four minor siblings and she's going through this divorce. Like again, I think it's real. I think it's real.

Kelli (40:07.886)
I mean, chances are it is, I just...

Wendy (40:12.741)
I mean, you saw that, like, I'm sure you saw all the clips with, know, Croix, you know, she gambled away all the money. She's, like, she's got a problem. She spends money, she gambles. You know, he couldn't take it anymore. I mean...

Kelli (40:23.566)
She's got a problem.

Kelli (40:27.746)
This poor guy doesn't even speak to his own parents anymore because of her. She doesn't talk to her own parents.

Wendy (40:32.093)
He adopted Ariana and Brielle. Like, he's a good guy. He put up with this for a long time. you know, she does have four minor siblings.

I don't know. I heard today, and I'm gonna have to look this up and I'll go to Rouge and Review, that Hudson, her boyfriend, his family has some chicken business that they're very wealthy. So I'm gonna look into that.

Kelli (41:05.26)
Well, then maybe it is partly his, maybe it is his business because if you're sharing expenses with him, like if they're living together.

Wendy (41:07.709)
Exactly.

Wendy (41:12.923)
Right. Which I believe they are. Yes. So I'm going to look into that.

Kelli (41:16.438)
Yeah, it is his business.

Wendy (41:23.761)
So we'll have to wait and see what happens with the Valley and Jax. I think Jax might be coming back on the next episode, right?

Kelli (41:33.632)
I he is too.

Wendy (41:35.355)
I'm not looking forward to that.

Kelli (41:38.754)
Me neither, and I'll tell you what, I think that this show, I think that the show would be just fine without him. We haven't seen him other than his stupid little rage text. I think the show would be fine without him, so bravo, take note of that. Get rid of his narcissistic ass.

Wendy (41:46.527)
I do too.

Wendy (41:50.789)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (41:56.028)
You know, there's

There's something else I saw online and I don't know if it's true because there's so much fake information online. Did you see?

Kelli (42:03.412)
I know, I can't take the AI.

Wendy (42:06.641)
Did you see the, supposedly there's ring footage of Jacks that Brittany deleted and when La La saw it, she said somebody is going to die. Is that real?

Kelli (42:18.988)
Yeah. Yes. I don't know. think that is real and I thought we were going to see it on the show, but maybe we're not.

Wendy (42:28.081)
I don't know. I don't know either. I don't know if it's real. Well, you would delete it because you're trying to cover for him because he is the father of your children and you, you know.

Kelli (42:29.218)
I guess if she, mean, why would she delete, why would you delete it?

Wendy (42:44.367)
I don't know.

Kelli (42:44.46)
I wonder when that happened, like did it happen after he was supposedly in rehab? Which we know he's not, but...

Wendy (42:50.501)
I, again, I don't even know if it's true. Like, I don't know when it happened. I don't know if it's true. Okay.

Kelli (42:54.434)
I think that might be true. For some reason, think maybe they talk about it on the show. We'll see.

Wendy (43:01.285)
All right, we will see. Any of our listeners know? If you guys could let us know in the comments, that would be great. Okay. and Miami's coming back soon.

Kelli (43:05.922)
Yeah. We'd appreciate it.

I'm here for that.

Wendy (43:13.359)
Miami, speaking of Miami, did you hear Lisa Hoxtein on whose podcast was she on?

Kelli (43:20.342)
I just saw her. Was it Melissa Gorgas?

Wendy (43:21.895)
Tamra no Tamra and Teddy she's got a new company We'll talk about it next time but Miami's coming back Soon I am happy for her too. Yeah, we'll talk about that When we talk about Miami, are you gonna watch Miami?

Kelli (43:28.942)
Good for her.

good, I'm so happy for her.

Kelli (43:38.958)
Sounds good. I'm definitely watching Miami. Yeah, I'm into Miami, Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (43:42.661)
Okay, good. Okay. All right. Until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Bye.

Kelli (43:51.608)
Bye.