The Valley Reunion Part 3-Unblocked (For Now)

Wendy (00:01.069)
Hi, welcome to WeeWine Whenever. I'm Wendy. We are talking about the Valley reunion, season two, part three. So we come to the conclusion of the reunion. I really still stand by, we did not need three episodes of the reunion. I mean, especially considering last season, we didn't even have a reunion at all. So we certainly didn't need three episodes this season. We start out with...

Kelli (00:03.959)
I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:18.424)
We definitely did not need three episodes.

Wendy (00:31.423)
It comes up, this is kind of where we going at the end of the last reunion. Jasmine says to Danny, on the after show, you said, can't believe it was brought up again. Danny said, yes, by Janet, not by you. Like you can bring it up all you want. It was Janet that kept perpetuating it. And that's where Jason like goes crazy. He's like, you're a clown, dude. You're a total clown. Why? Why? Because he's being truthful. He's letting...

everyone know that it's your wife that keeps bringing this up and making it more than it needs to be.

Kelli (01:07.458)
Right, okay, when Jason says that Janet was the scapegoat, I almost fell off my seat. Almost fell off my seat. I think that what Jasmine was talking about though, I think at the white party, I guess before camera started rolling and she said, we're gonna talk about this, Danny said to her, are we really doing this right now?

Wendy (01:14.679)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:31.456)
And I guess that's because they had a conversation before filming started and they weren't going to bring it up. So maybe he was just caught off guard. But, and I get that and I get that and I get Jasmine being like, the fuck you mean? Are we really doing this right now? It's, you know, but I do think that Danny sat there and he had the conversation with them. He didn't throw his arms up in the air and was like, I'm not doing this. We said we weren't doing this. Like he sat there and he, and he conversed.

Wendy (01:38.519)
Well, that, yeah, right. get, yeah.

Kelli (02:01.31)
and went through the conversation. It was just a knee-jerk reaction for him to be like, are we really doing this right now? Because they had already discussed it. But he did it.

Wendy (02:04.299)
Right. No, he definitely.

Wendy (02:10.881)
Right, and we actually, we talked about that on part one of the reunion when it was brought up initially. So I know these reunion days are long days, but the fact that now on part three it's coming up again, but it's coming up like Dani said, because when she said on the after show, he's like, yeah, it was Janet that brought it up. It was Janet that I was referring to, not you.

Kelli (02:32.118)
Right. Right.

Right.

Wendy (02:36.287)
And then Janet jumps in and said, well, I'm glad I talked about it as much as I did because he's done it multiple times since. And he said, you're saying that he's touched other women's butts. And she's like, yeah, he's been appropriate and made women feel uncomfortable multiple times since as recently as the Superbowl. And Danny's like, that's a lie. And he said, you know, that's a lie and you're really good at lying. And now at this point, she is just doing everything she can to be slanderous and to make him.

Kelli (03:03.106)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (03:05.907)
look like the bad guy. And I think there is so much malicious intent on her part and Jason's at this point against Annie. Right. It's not like, this was a mistake. I'm sorry that this happened. There is no reason that she is talking about this. This does not relate to her. This does not relate to her.

Kelli (03:07.512)
Yes, I totally agree.

Kelli (03:16.662)
I totally agree, it's totally malicious intent.

Kelli (03:30.414)
Well, so not at all. And then I guess she says, and other people on this cast know. So Michelle says, well, Brittany said, so Brittany says that he got drunk and was following her around on her birthday. She said his personality changed and he becomes flirtatious. Okay. That is very different than being accused of sexually assaulting someone.

Wendy (03:56.363)
Right. Right. She even said, he didn't touch me. You didn't touch on me or anything. You know, just your personality changed.

Kelli (04:00.621)
Right.

Kelli (04:05.442)
Okay, that does happen. think, well, yeah. So Andy asked Danny if he has a drinking problem. well, yeah. And then Jason says everybody on the stage has a drinking problem.

Wendy (04:16.641)
Right, because Janice says he's done things other times. It wasn't just Jasmine and Melissa. Jasmine said in Santa Barbara that she knows you have a drinking problem. Do you have a drinking problem? And Danny said, no, I actually haven't had a drink in a few weeks. And that's when Jason said, he got mad again. He's like, you can't even admit you have a drinking problem. Jason said, everyone on this stage has issues with alcohol, to be honest with you.

Kelli (04:40.92)
That was weird that he said that.

Wendy (04:42.091)
Right, right. he's like, do you? It's just so, it's just so pathetic. It just comes across as so pathetic.

Kelli (04:51.308)
I think that at this point, Danny needs to acknowledge that.

Kelli (04:58.779)
His personality changes when he drinks, sometimes. Not all the time.

Wendy (05:02.264)
Right. think he's acknowledged that though.

Kelli (05:05.802)
And maybe his relationship with alcohol has to change where maybe you have, you have to limit yourself to two drinks.

And that's it. And then you probably won't have this problem. He doesn't make the best choices.

Wendy (05:23.799)
Yeah, no, I mean, I mean, we're going to beat him up over this over and over again. It's like, give me a break.

Kelli (05:27.22)
No, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And Jesse said Danny does not have a drinking problem. Sometimes he gets fucked up and makes mistakes and other times he's hilarious. So that doesn't deem a drinking problem. He just needs to, he needs to limit his intake.

Wendy (05:40.995)
Right.

Wendy (05:44.771)
Right. I mean, and Kristen's like.

Kelli (05:46.796)
And if you can't do that, then that might be a problem.

Wendy (05:51.491)
Right. But he's already said in the past, in the past, he's had problems with drinking and he has pointed it out to him because they face these problems head on in their marriage and he stops drinking. He hasn't drank in weeks. So someone who can just stop drinking, mean, obvious that they know how to address their problems, right? And it's not for Janet or Jason.

Kelli (06:08.354)
Yes.

Kelli (06:14.742)
Right. Right.

Wendy (06:20.471)
to be calling them out on this. It's just not, it's not, that's not appropriate.

Kelli (06:26.466)
No, and like we've said, like Jason wanting to be Jasmine's friend, sure, if you really feel that strongly, but Jasmine and Melissa have asked you now to stop talking about it, and you're still talking about it.

Wendy (06:40.929)
Yes. Yes, yes. I mean, it happened on the boat in Hawaii. Like stop. Jason says, you know, I don't want to get all worked up and make this a thing. I mean, they're good people. Danny said, you just called me a clown. Jesse's like, yeah, you should really apologize for calling him a clown. Jason's like, I can apologize for calling you a name. What?

Kelli (06:47.212)
Yep. Yeah.

Kelli (07:03.884)
And then Janet tells us that there's a difference between being an alcoholic and having a drinking problem. Okay, thanks Janet. And Jason says that a problem for him would be if his entire storyline all season was about his drinking. Well, if your wife didn't carry it on all season, it wouldn't have been a storyline all season. Your wife is the problem. Your wife is the one that carried this through the entire season.

Do you think Danny wanted this to be his storyline for crying out loud?

Wendy (07:34.217)
No, no. And then Andy says to Jasmine, Jason thinks that she made up the rumor.

Kelli (07:43.256)
about the ring.

Wendy (07:43.307)
I, yeah, about the ring, right? So then, you know, Jasmine looks, she's like, no, I wouldn't make that up. I'm not lying about that. And he said, you know, I was surprised to see weeks after I thought that this had been put to bed that you and Janet are going to get tattoos to debunk the rumor. Like, I didn't think anyone cared about it. Kristen said, you guys aren't that important. Nobody cared about it. You were the only ones who perpetuated it. Kristen feels that you did this at this point to be relevant.

Kelli (08:00.207)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (08:05.464)
So, good.

Kelli (08:12.536)
She said you're not important enough for the rumor to be relevant. That was fucking savage, Kristen. So good.

Wendy (08:16.395)
Yep. Yep.

And Kristen's like, I told you to your face I was just being a petty bitch. Jason's like, well, why aren't we allowed to be mad at you for being a bitch? She's like, you are, like you're okay, but you're taking it out on Danny and Nia. Like, be mad at me, call me a name.

Kelli (08:26.038)
Right.

Kelli (08:38.093)
Right.

Right, right.

Wendy (08:45.271)
Jason said I was actually more upset with Jasmine over the ring thing.

Wendy (08:52.707)
Kristen's like, don't have a reputation for exaggerating or lying. I have a reputation for uncovering the truth and inserting myself in situations I don't belong in. I was like, okay, Kristen. Yes, yes she does.

Kelli (09:04.206)
At least she has self-awareness.

Kelli (09:10.574)
How about Jason asking Jasmine if she felt manipulated at all? I guess he was talking about Kristen obviously, right? But we barely saw Kristen and Jasmine together this season. Don't you feel like that? We saw Kristen with Nia, Kristen with Zach, Jasmine with Zach.

Wendy (09:17.173)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (09:23.233)
Yeah, we really didn't. We didn't.

Mm-hmm.

Kelli (09:33.932)
I feel like we didn't really see Kristen with Jasmine that much.

Wendy (09:37.601)
We didn't. We really didn't.

Kelli (09:40.76)
Yeah.

Wendy (09:42.623)
Andy asked Jasmine what Janet did at the beach that you yelled at her and then that she was giving off Karen energy and that she was a shit ass friend. Janet's Jasmine's like, well, I just wanted to talk to Jason and she kept interrupting and calling me a snake and a liar. And Janet's like, I didn't call you a snake. And then they rolled the footage. She didn't call, but, but she was interrupting, but she was, she was interrupting. Like she didn't, she didn't have to be in that conversation.

Kelli (10:00.43)
She didn't, she didn't. Jason did, but she didn't. absolutely. No, not at all.

Wendy (10:12.535)
So when Jason asks Jasmine, you know, if she felt manipulated, she says, no, Andy says, well, who do you think she's manipulated by? And that's when Jason's like, well, I watch the show and I see Kristen's talking to people and saying, this is Janet. Okay.

Kelli (10:28.302)
Kristen's like, what show are you watching?

Wendy (10:30.531)
That's exactly what she said. And Danny's like, yeah, and you're watching as her husband.

Kelli (10:34.52)
So funny.

Kelli (10:39.884)
Right. I mean him saying she's the scapegoat. I mean...

Wendy (10:44.195)
Right.

Kelli (10:48.046)
What are you talking about? She did all of this. She was responsible for all of this. mean, Jasmine bringing, you know, we've said this a million times. Jasmine bringing it up to Dani is so justifiable, so the correct thing that should have happened. Dani and Jasmine and Melissa speaking about it. Not even Nia, she didn't even need to be there.

Wendy (10:53.443)
She did. Yep.

Wendy (11:05.644)
Absolutely.

Kelli (11:15.064)
This was between the three of them and what happened. But that's okay that she was there.

Wendy (11:18.271)
Yeah, I think it was okay that she was there. She is, you know, his wife.

Kelli (11:21.038)
but it had zero to do with Janet. And it was almost like she was annoyed when Jasmine was like, okay, let's move forward. Because, I mean, Dani apologized, I believe three times in the season for this, plus prior to the season starting to film.

Wendy (11:24.353)
Right, right.

Wendy (11:31.266)
Right.

Wendy (11:37.453)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (11:42.211)
was surprised when Jasmine went on to say that she's been friends with Janet the longest, if anyone there.

Kelli (11:48.044)
Well, doesn't it make kind of sense though, because they both wanted to be on reality TV for so long.

Wendy (11:54.551)
But she met, I mean, she met Jason first, right? Before she knew Janet.

Kelli (12:01.08)
Well, I think they all knew Jason first because Jason was in that friend group because he and Sheena had a little thing and then Jasmine stalked Sheena and they, I mean, I'm sorry, Janet, yeah. right, I see what you're, yeah, so Jasmine knew Jason first before she knew Janet. That was my point, because Jason was probably in this friend group. He was in the friend group before Janet came along.

Wendy (12:09.016)
Right.

Jasmine's dog, Sheena? Janet. Yeah.

Wendy (12:22.315)
Right. Yes.

Wendy (12:31.223)
Yeah.

Kelli (12:33.378)
and then somebody thought it was a good idea to hook those two up, which clearly works out. They're very codependent on each other.

Wendy (12:36.341)
And then, know, Jasmine's like, they really are. Jasmine's like, we don't even talk anymore. Like we were really friends. Like, you know, she would come over, hang out in her sweats, we'd cook, we don't even talk anymore.

Kelli (12:50.136)
You guys all agreed to go on a reality TV show produced by Bravo people. I mean, have you not watched The Housewives? Do you not see how this plays out? They want people to hate each other. Wendy sent cousin Gina and I a video of Todd Napola. Is he Napola? Is that his last name? Yeah, that's how she's Alexia Napola, right? If you get a chance, go watch it. He's clarifying whatever role he had, you know.

Wendy (12:58.435)
So true.

Wendy (13:08.547)
Yeah, he is, is, yeah.

Kelli (13:18.688)
His biggest regret is ever going on the show. Some of the things he says is 100 % correct though. These producers, they want you to look bad. They want a storyline, they want to twist things and edit things to make you look bad. This is what Bravo's become. It didn't start out that way. But this is definitely what it's become.

Wendy (13:33.336)
Yeah.

Wendy (13:38.721)
It's very true.

That's very true. Andy asked Jax how he felt about the night before he got out of rehab, they renamed the bar Brits. He's like, well, you know, of course it didn't feel good. Andy asked if Zach is still banned from the bar and Jax said yes. Zach's, I know. Zach's like, I've been there so many times trying to build Brittany back up, you know, when you two were fighting and I was trying to like hold her up and

Kelli (13:58.359)
And Zach's like, I was just there the other time.

Wendy (14:10.839)
try and keep you guys together. And I believe that Zach was, I believe Zach has, you know, he's been there the whole time, right? And he's, she's like, he's like, it's funny that Jack's can, you know, forgive anybody else but me. He is right, you know?

Kelli (14:16.237)
Yeah.

Kelli (14:21.804)
right and he's right.

Wendy (14:26.875)
Jack said, the things you said about me on social media came out of nowhere. Zach said, well, I want you to be a better person. He said, I don't care. At this point, I totally agree that Jack's was like so checked out of this reunion. Like he wasn't even, he wasn't answering, he wasn't interjecting. didn't answer anything unless he was spoken to. Like he was just checked out. Andy asked if Frank Drummond is allowed in your bar. And Jack's like, who?

Kelli (14:41.537)
yeah.

Wendy (14:53.847)
Like, who's that? Like, he had no idea who he was talking about. And they all start laughing because Jackson doesn't watch the show. Jackson realizes that it's his burner account that they're talking about.

Then Andy asked Jax, he selling Britney's Jenny Craig bag on eBay? He's like, yeah, I sold everything on eBay. Like I started that back during COVID, like anything I could sell, like we needed money, so I'm selling it.

Kelli (15:20.046)
I he's like, I had no income, so I mean, I don't fault him for that. I wish my husband would go through the basement and sell some shit on eBay. Because it is piling up down there, people. We're borderline hoarders over here, not me. It's not me.

Wendy (15:25.078)
I don't either.

Yeah, me too.

Yep.

I thought that was a weird question. Like, why are you asking Jax that? Like, of all the things he did, that's what you're asking him?

Kelli (15:40.299)
Right, right, right.

Wendy (15:42.776)
Then he says, Jack, she came to Benji's welcome home party, even though he wasn't invited. He said, yeah, I shouldn't have gone to that. And he shouldn't have.

Kelli (15:50.126)
How about Jason having to mansplain to Jax that Zach was actually trying to offer an olive branch, extend an olive branch.

Wendy (15:58.773)
Yeah. So then Andy said.

Kelli (16:00.983)
Jack Spanner never crossed Jason because Jason is ready to walk through this life with Jacks.

Wendy (16:07.267)
I don't get it, I really don't. I'm telling you, people online are saying that there's something, like Jason and Janet have something over Jax and Brittany. Because even if you watch how Brittany, like, she wouldn't raise her hand when Andy asked the question, she has Janet's back more than she has Zax, and more than she has anybody's up there.

Kelli (16:20.078)
She did not raise her hand. I hated that she didn't.

Kelli (16:25.783)
now.

Kelli (16:30.722)
You're absolutely right. Something has to be going on.

Wendy (16:34.539)
It just doesn't add up. just doesn't. Andy said to Luke, from hooking up in the bushes at a wedding to getting engaged, when did you know that Kristen was the one? I was like, okay, Andy. And he said that they went on a really long road trip. was like over 5,000 miles. It was them in the car with four dogs. And it was just like that whole thing was not a great experience. like while he was in the middle of it, he's like, listen, if I can get through this, like if somebody can...

Kelli (16:36.014)
Mm-mm.

Wendy (17:00.417)
ride with me during this, like this is my person. And I, listen, I have to agree with him. You know, when you're in situations that are not great situations and you have someone by your side that's there for you.

Kelli (17:02.146)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:12.106)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (17:14.486)
Um, Luke never watched Vanderpump rules and then, know, Chris. Oh, I totally believe it. You know, Kristen said on the podcast, like I made them watch it cause we were. They were, yeah. And they were, cause I remember listening to the podcast. They were recapping season one and he's like, I can't do this anymore. Chris is like, well, you can skip two and three and then, you you can go to four. He's like, no, just, no, not doing it. Can't do it. And I don't blame them. I don't blame them. They didn't need to recap it.

Kelli (17:17.9)
I kind of believe that too.

Kelli (17:24.036)
that's right. She said they said that they recapped it.

Kelli (17:30.796)
and he couldn't do it,

Kelli (17:39.935)
my god.

No, if I were Kristen, I wouldn't want him seeing that, quite honestly. She looked a little crazy.

Wendy (17:46.055)
No, yeah, Andy asked Kristen when she knew he was the one. She said the first six or seven months, she was really into him, but she didn't wanna be. then like, cause they didn't live near each other. Like the logistics weren't there. Cause he has the, he's from Colorado, you know, and he's got the land in Colorado. She admitted she was completely surprised by the proposal, which I totally believe.

Kelli (17:59.373)
Yeah. Right.

Kelli (18:11.617)
I totally believe that.

Wendy (18:13.859)
Britney felt left out that she wasn't included and Luke said, listen, he'd already talked to Britney about it, but it just came down to Jax that they knew Jax would ruin the secret. And if Britney knew they were afraid she would slip, you know, slip out and

Kelli (18:30.38)
And he was 100 % right because that's exactly what happened.

Wendy (18:33.451)
Yep. Andy asked Brittany if she told Jax about their engagement out of revenge. Brittany's like, no, I don't think she did it out of revenge. I don't.

Kelli (18:43.906)
I don't think she did it out of revenge. I don't know why she did it, but I don't think she did it out of revenge. I don't think she has a revengeful bone in her body, Brittany, you know. I don't think she's as naive as she would like people to believe. She did move to LA for Jax. She knew who Jax was. She could play it off as much as she wants. I don't think she's as naive as she wants people to believe, but I don't think she did that with malintent.

Wendy (18:51.683)
I don't think she does either.

Wendy (19:15.725)
I don't think she did either. Andy asked Jessie if he had a plan going into the Hawaii trip to confront Aaron and he said, Yeah, I did. Kristen, you said Janet was a fan of Vanderpump Rules and Kristen said, yeah, well, because once she got on the show, I had known Janet prior to that. And as soon as she got on, she acted totally different. And that's what they're saying. You know, she became a different person.

Kelli (19:44.6)
yeah. There's a photo going around, because I know we didn't get to it yet, but she says that they weren't really friends, her and Danny and Nia, but it's an old photo. And Stassi's in it, and Katie Maloney's in it, and Nia's in it, and Janet's in it. So that's an oldie.

Wendy (20:02.979)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (20:08.366)
So she's, she is a liar, Janet. She's definitely a liar. And I'm telling you right now, after this season, I 100 % believe what, I don't know if it was Kristen or Zach or whatever they said she said about Michelle the first season, I 100 % believe she said it.

Wendy (20:08.545)
Yeah.

Kelli (20:30.656)
Now, after watching this, I kind of believed it first season, but I definitely believe it now after watching this season. She just does things and then denies it. She's a liar.

Wendy (20:36.396)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (20:41.377)
Yeah, she's a liar. She's a liar. Kristen said, well, you know, I didn't even bring this up on the show, but even in the first season when Jax brought around my ex Jackson, I see you sitting there in your confessionals and you're saying that, you know, Kristen did things wrong and, know, she basically, she wronged this guy who was her ex. And Kristen's like, you were supposed to be my friend. So why are you sitting in your confessionals talking about my ex? Like,

You know, that's not your fight to fight. Like, what are you doing?

Kelli (21:09.997)
Yeah.

Right, like you're supposed to be one of my best friends. You knew what really went on in our relationship. And then you're bad mouthing me during confessionals.

Wendy (21:18.379)
Right. Right. That didn't need to happen. Like there was no reason for that to happen because she was already with Luke. This guy wasn't on the show. He wasn't a part of the show. Luke was. Like, why would you do that?

Kelli (21:29.644)
Right.

Kelli (21:34.55)
Right, like let Jax look like the douchebag for bringing him on camera and let it go. She wants to be that person on the show though.

Wendy (21:39.127)
Right.

Wendy (21:44.481)
Yep. And then Andy asks, or did you befriend people like Sheena and Kristen to get on TV? And Janet's like, no.

Kristen said, no, I think you're trying to be someone that you're not, which I totally agree. I think you developed an alter ego on camera.

And Janet said, well, I didn't change. You and I weren't good for a whole year prior to us filming.

Wendy (22:12.547)
Janet said, I didn't even know you guys before filming. To Danny and Nia, right. And Nia's like, what are you talking about? Like you were one of the first people to come over and meet the twins.

Kelli (22:16.524)
Yeah, now she's talking to Nia and Danny.

Kelli (22:24.526)
Yeah, there's a picture of them together when Nia's pregnant with the twins. Maybe that's the picture I'm thinking of. Maybe that's when it was. was, so yeah.

Wendy (22:28.417)
Yeah. And then Jason's like, it could be.

Wendy (22:35.27)
while she was pregnant with twins. And Jason's like, yeah, well, that's when we were on the show. No, no, because when they were on the show, she already had the babies. She already had the babies.

Kelli (22:42.35)
That wasn't it.

Kelli (22:46.36)
Yes, yes, they were brand new. They were little, couple of months, but still.

Wendy (22:50.755)
I know, but still. Right. Right.

Wendy (22:58.227)
Andy said to Janet, on the boat in Hawaii, you said that Danny and he said it, sexually assaulted Jasmine. He didn't even say essay. Andy said the word. You just made peace with, after you had just made peace with Danny and Nia at the pool, which is so true. Like, what are you going to get out of that? Why go there? Janet said, well, honestly, because Christian just kept saying, like, why are you attacking Danny? Why are you attacking them? And she's like, well,

I mean, this guy just did something horrible, so I'm not really attacking him. What? Yeah, you are. Janet said, well, I thought it was serious, as Jasmine thought it was serious, so I used the legal term for what he had done.

Kelli (23:29.996)
Yes, you are.

Kelli (23:42.466)
But Andy asks a great question. If she brought charges against Danny, would anything have happened? And Jason said, probably not. So why use the term?

Wendy (23:42.605)
and it

Kelli (23:54.382)
It minimizes.

Wendy (24:00.053)
It minimizes it. It minimizes people that are actually essayed when someone who's not the victim keeps bringing it up and throwing it in someone's face. Because Kristen called it out. She's like, you attacked them because I was being a bitch. And that's exactly what she said. That's what she said. mean, Janet even admitted that. But she's like, well, it wasn't really me attacking him because it's what he did. Technically, it's what he did. So I wasn't attacking him.

Kelli (24:00.239)
It minimizes it.

Right.

Kelli (24:17.186)
Right. 100%.

Wendy (24:31.228)
Chris is like, you tried to ruin somebody. Nope.

Kelli (24:31.852)
Meanwhile, Jasmine's not saying anything.

Kelli (24:36.962)
Like it's just, this is what makes it frustrating. Not that Jasmine's not saying anything, that Janet won't shut the fuck up about it.

Wendy (24:41.985)
Yeah, Kristen's like.

Wendy (24:46.145)
Right, right, right. And Jasmine's not saying anything because she doesn't want to talk about it. She doesn't want to talk about it.

Kelli (24:51.5)
Right, and it's been made clear by her and her girlfriend.

Wendy (24:56.279)
Yep. Kristen said, tried to ruin somebody's life that didn't deserve it. Jenna said, you're responsible for your own actions, not me talking about them, meaning Danny. So again, she's not even owning her partner.

Kelli (25:10.252)
No, and then she says that Danny called Michelle a whore on camera. And then she repeats what he actually said, and it wasn't that at all. And Jason asks, are we not allowed to paraphrase? No, asshole. Not when you're putting words in someone's mouth and saying that they're calling someone a whore on camera when they didn't. The fact that this guy's a lawyer blows my mind. I mean, I know he's workers' comp lawyer, but.

Wendy (25:34.883)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (25:37.73)
and he's on the other side of the workers' comp. He's not on the plaintiff's

Wendy (25:41.485)
Right.

Andy said.

Kelli (25:44.258)
I mean, you can't completely change what somebody said and use a derogatory insult when they didn't do that.

Wendy (25:52.417)
Right. I mean, everything that they're both of them are doing. Andy says, with a show of hands, who thinks that Janet was being reckless with the term? Everyone raised their hands except for Jasmine. And Jasmine said, so I think she was coming from a good place, you know, at the time.

Brittany was playing with her strap on her dress. So she went like this. Michelle didn't raise her hand. Well, Jax wasn't doing anything. Jax wasn't even participating at this point.

Kelli (26:16.728)
Britney didn't raise her hand, Michelle didn't raise her hand, Jax did not raise his hand.

Jason Janet, Janet, Jason, Jasmine, Michelle, Brittany, Jax. That's who did not raise their hand.

Wendy (26:29.761)
Right. Janet is like, would you have preferred the word groped or molested?

Kelli (26:40.152)
Why would you use the word molested? This is what I mean. This girl needs a psych evaluation at this point. Why are you throwing these words out there that one can be triggers for somebody who were actually victims of this and are so slanderous, so incredibly slanderous?

Wendy (26:48.375)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wendy (26:54.658)
Right.

Kelli (27:08.404)
She should be the most disliked person on reality TV right now.

Wendy (27:13.741)
So while this whole thing is going on, So Jasmine's sitting next to Jack. Jasmine's saying to Zack, I think that she was trying to be a friend when she did it. But Zack said, but you don't even feel that way. Jasmine said like, no, I don't. Zack said, the problem is that that's, right. But the problem is that that's the way it's going to stay. And Jasmine said, I did in the beginning because I was so heated. Like she did feel that way, but she's like, Janet said, I will never use that term again.

Kelli (27:27.65)
and then that should have been the end of it.

Wendy (27:42.601)
Nia said, I think that there needs to be clarity because there's our words and there's words that are thrown around multiple times that are not true. You keep saying that this has happened multiple times over and over again. You're trying to assassinate his character as a person to put things out there that have not happened. That's not okay. Janet said, okay. And then Andy said, okay, let's switch gears. I'm like.

Kelli (28:07.963)
Kristen said I feel stupid listening to them. I guess she was talking about Jason and Janet.

Wendy (28:10.303)
I know. Yeah, I agree with her. Then after the gang returned home from Hawaii, Michelle threw her zen party. Brittany said, last time I saw you guys were screaming at each other.

Kelli (28:15.906)
Me too.

Wendy (28:29.931)
about her and Zach, Zach and Brittany. And Brittany's like, my God, I love him. I see him all the time. We talk to each other multiple times a day. Zach, I felt like when she was saying that, it wasn't enough for Zach. He still wasn't okay with Brittany. I know that I've heard them together on the podcast since, but in that moment, it didn't seem like he was okay with what she was saying.

Kelli (28:51.467)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (28:57.368)
But hopefully by now he feels better about it. So I thought that they met at college. I thought I remembered that. Like I didn't think that they were childhood friends from Kentucky. So they met at, Brittany cheered. And then what, he was dating one of the cheerleaders I think, Zach? I think he was dating one. But then it doesn't matter. Then they moved to LA together. But he did say, and then Brittany was moving to LA.

Wendy (28:59.276)
Yeah.

Wendy (29:10.029)
College, right.

No, I think he cheered too.

I thought he was a cheerleader. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (29:26.936)
to date Jax, he said that. And he was between New York and LA and he was like, well, I'll just go to LA with you. So she went there for Jax. She knew who Jax was. She tried to say she didn't at one point.

Wendy (29:28.525)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (29:34.861)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (29:40.813)
Well, he told, no, but she met him in Las Vegas. And then he told her to come to LA to live with him. It's not like she went to LA and met him. She met him in Vegas.

Kelli (29:46.573)
Right, right. That's what I'm saying. She moved there for him. Right, but at one point she was saying, I think when they first started dating that she didn't know who he was. She didn't know what Vanderpump rules was. Come on.

Wendy (29:54.347)
Yes, she definitely moved there for him.

Wendy (30:04.375)
Well, she said, I mean, what she said was she didn't watch the show. Her mother had watched the show. She said that she didn't watch the show.

Kelli (30:12.684)
Right. No, I remember her saying she didn't know who he was and she didn't know the show. I remember her saying that early on when she first came on.

So... But her mom watched the show. So clearly she knew.

Wendy (30:27.147)
Right. Andy asked Danny, like, how did you feel that Jax was blocking you? You know, not inviting you to these events. And he's like, well, that was so he could talk behind my back. You know, I was at home putting my kids to bed and he's out, he's there saying that I'm drunk someplace.

Kelli (30:49.91)
And he was. Jax was like alluding to that, like, where's Danny out drinking?

Wendy (30:52.511)
He was at home.

Yeah, absolutely. That's what he was doing. And then Andy said, well, is that why you said that Jax was sleeping with his staff at the party? And Danny said, well, yeah. And they all admit that that was a rumor they had heard. Jax said he's not sleeping with anybody there. I mean, even Brittany admitted it, that there was that rumor. Right, right. And I think Jesse even kind of confirmed it, but at this point, who cares, right? Who even cares?

Kelli (31:14.328)
She had heard the rumors.

Kelli (31:25.25)
I mean, he obviously cheated on her. That's been, you know, we don't need details or semantics.

Wendy (31:30.123)
Right. Andy says to Jessie, even though your girlfriend didn't want to have anything to do with the season, I heard that she came to the end of Michelle's party. Is that true? And Jessie said, yeah, she asked if she could stop by. We were done filming. And I said, yes. Andy asked Michelle, how were your interactions with Jessie's girlfriend that night? Michelle said, well, they were not good. And I don't feel comfortable talking about it. My lawyer said that I shouldn't.

So then Andy goes, love how he went in. Andy said, listen, I heard you had a massive screaming match after the cameras went down. Brittany said she was told not to talk about it because of her threats, her legal threats. Jessie said, well, let's not talk about this. She's not here to defend herself. Andy said, I know, but she showed up at an all cast event and threatened legal. Jessie said she showed up at 1030. Michelle said, it was very clear that we were still filming. Jessie said they put a boom over her head and started filming. He said, and as they should, they're doing their jobs.

Kelli (31:57.614)
Absolutely.

Kelli (32:24.258)
That's right.

Wendy (32:25.237)
If your girlfriend showed up here today, you know what I'd do? I'd stick a mic on her and get her out here. And he said, Jesse, do you understand? And Jesse said, yeah. Like he just kind of was like, yeah.

Kelli (32:31.086)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (32:37.792)
And she should understand that too. Why would she go there? If cameras were anywhere near there, why would you go?

Wendy (32:44.653)
Now did you see she put out a statement?

Kelli (32:47.073)
Now, the girlfriend?

Wendy (32:48.801)
Yeah, she put out a statement. I didn't screenshot it, but she put out a statement that she probably shouldn't have gone there, but there was plenty of security camera footage and something to do with Michelle's boyfriend being drunk and aggressive towards her. And that's what the fight was about. And she wants them, she wants.

Kelli (32:50.804)
Really?

Kelli (33:14.84)
That's what initiated.

Wendy (33:16.587)
She wants Bravo to roll the footage and that she did not threaten legal. The only thing that was done was one time Michelle had made some comment about her with children and then that's when she told her to stop mentioning her name. But she didn't threaten legal action to anybody else or for this instant. So she put it out there that she wants Bravo to roll whatever they have.

Kelli (33:46.498)
That's interesting. I think Bravo should do it. You made us sit through three reunions. The least you could do is roll some tape.

Wendy (33:47.573)
I think that is interesting. think they should too. Yeah, give us a...

Give us the never before seen footage. Yeah, never before seen footage. And let's see what happened at that party.

Kelli (33:59.961)
seen before.

Yes. Yes, please.

Wendy (34:11.843)
So then Andy said his final thoughts. Reunions aren't just about rehashing the season, they're also about charting a path forward and I just want to hit on a few. Jesse and Michelle, I'd like you to say something nice about each other. Jesse, you start. And he's like, well, I love Michelle for a very long time and I hope that she can prosper and grow and find someone that gives her love. Michelle said, well, I've always said that Jesse is a great father. That was his whole big thing that he was upset about that she didn't say that. And I love seeing the moments together with

Kelli (34:39.756)
We get that.

Wendy (34:41.537)
with Isabel and him on camera. Andy asked Jason if he feels resolved. He said, it's tough. I wanted things to go differently. It's sad, it's tough. Well, you're the reason it didn't go differently, Jason. So you and your wife.

Kelli (34:53.752)
Yeah. Right.

Wendy (34:57.591)
Zach said, you have anything you want to say to the group? Janet, if you can take accountability for the things you've done and I can take accountability for the things I've done, maybe we can move forward. I thought that the fact that Zach said that, I thought that was huge.

Kelli (35:14.318)
thought it was huge too. And here's the thing, Zack doesn't want to be on Janet's bad side because Sheena, Lala, they're up her ass for some reason. So if Zack's not good with Janet, he's not good with them. And I mean, I don't know if he cares or not, but they are part of this friend group. Although I really don't want to see them on the show. I don't want to see Sheena on the show. I would like to see Lala on the show in a limited capacity, but I do not want to see Sheena on the show.

Wendy (35:35.298)
Yeah.

Wendy (35:44.163)
It's so funny, you and many people have very strong opinions about Sheena.

Kelli (35:48.909)
The thirst is, mean, somebody just needs to just pour gallons of water on her. The thirst is just, I stand by the fact that I think she's lying about her husband cheating on her. To sell a book.

Wendy (36:02.327)
Okay.

I mean, you're not the only one that says that. personally do not think she's lying. I don't think that she would do that to her daughter. I don't think she would make that up. That's just me. know, everyone has...

Kelli (36:07.374)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (36:15.298)
why she can always tell her daughter that she made it up.

Wendy (36:18.273)
Yep, she can, but I don't think it's true. I don't think she would lie about that. But like I said, other people, not just you, are saying the same thing. That doesn't make it true. Andy said that that's a good start. Maybe you can start by unblocking each other on social media. And Janet said, well, he's unblocked. And Zach says, OK, I'll unblock you.

Kelli (36:40.654)
Jason says, Zach has me blocked or I have Zach blocked. And Zach was like, I didn't even realize. Exactly. We don't care Jason and neither does Zach.

Wendy (36:48.447)
Yeah, yeah, I don't even know. Who cares, right? Who cares? Right. Jax wants peace and forgiveness. Good luck with that. They're ending with mocktails served in baby bottles. He asked Brittany to do the toast.

Kelli (36:59.438)
Mmm.

Wendy (37:09.681)
I don't even know what she said, to be honest with you.

Kelli (37:11.438)
She basically just congratulated everyone in hopes that they can continue on, you know, with the show, obviously. So.

Wendy (37:19.487)
Mm-hmm. Well, I listened to Kristin and Luke's podcast the other day and was Zach on? I don't know if Zach, no, Zach wasn't on, but it was a bunch of questions. It was like fewer questions and it came up that Luke is closest with Zach. Like they have their own, Zach and Luke are very close. Kristin is also very close with Zach and he's there all the time that of all the people, like she likes when he comes over, cause he'll just come over.

and like scroll on his phone when she's there with the baby. you know, he does his own thing. Luke says that he has to cook more when Zach is there, because Luke is always feeding Zach. Zach just wants food and Luke is the one feeding him. So you can see that like those three there, they really are solid. Like they have a good friendship, you know? They have a good friendship. It is nice. It is nice. They also, one of the questions that they were asked is like,

Kelli (38:02.54)
you

Kelli (38:09.282)
Yeah, that's nice.

Wendy (38:17.569)
Like what would you, like what's a good gift to give a new parent? And Luke said, Jesse and his girlfriend had sent over food, like they door dashed him breakfast and dinner. And like, don't even ask them what they want. Just let, you you know what your friends like to eat. Just let them know we're sending you over dinner tonight. And he's like, that was one of the, like that was one of the, like the most thoughtful gifts. Like in the first six weeks, like what we're gonna eat was like.

Kelli (38:39.939)
Sure.

Wendy (38:43.501)
That was like, could be a fight, you know, cause this one's tired, that one's tired. No one's thinking about food and.

Kelli (38:45.326)
Yeah.

Kelli (38:48.876)
Nobody wants to go out and get it. Well, I guess with DoorDash now you don't have to.

Wendy (38:51.581)
Right, right. So the fact that, you know, I was like, that's nice that, you know, him and Jesse are still, you know, in each other's lives and getting along. So I definitely, I would like to see a season three. I guess we'll just have to wait and see who comes back. You know.

Kelli (38:57.88)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:02.434)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:08.174)
I wanna see a season three, definitely. mean, obviously we're not gonna see Jax, so we'll probably see Brittany dating. That would be nice. Again, no Sheena.

Wendy (39:16.255)
Right. Right.

Wendy (39:21.089)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (39:23.146)
I would also like to see how Janet moves in season three after what heat she's getting on social media.

It's like, let's see if she moves a little bit differently. I don't think she will.

Wendy (39:37.057)
Yeah, I agree. I agree that would be interesting.

That would be interesting.

Kelli (39:44.77)
Yeah.

Wendy (39:47.307)
I mean, I do think that there's a very good chance that Sheena's coming back and Lala. Yeah. And I heard Schwartz too. I think there's a very good, I hear, I think there's a good chance that all three of them will be back.

Kelli (39:52.27)
China.

Kelli (39:56.652)
I'm always here for sure.

Kelli (40:01.826)
What would be interesting though is if Jax is still living next door to him and they're filming sports and Zach's just next door sitting on his couch like what the fuck did I do?

Wendy (40:12.501)
Yeah, the thing is because Schwartz I think will just probably just be a friend of like he is now. They won't need to go to his place. Like he'll just be there. Right? I don't think they would torture Jax like that, but who knows? Who knows? No, I don't either. I don't either. So we'll have to wait and see what happens for season three. If it comes back. Cause we don't know. Like we haven't heard for a fact that we just know.

Kelli (40:17.696)
Yeah. No. Yeah. I would hope not. I don't think it would be very good for his mental health.

Kelli (40:39.958)
We don't know if it's coming back. We just know that Jackson will be there. Yeah.

Wendy (40:41.761)
We just know the Jaxx. Right. That's all we know. So we'll have to wait and see. So until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (40:52.718)
Bye.