The Valley Reunion Part 1 Nobody Is Taking Accountability

Kelli (00:00.841)
Hi, welcome to Be Wine Whenever, I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:03.542)
And I'm Laurie.

Kelli (00:05.611)
Tonight we're talking about the Valley season three reunion part one. before we do that of three. I gotta be honest with you though. well, before that, please go to our YouTube and subscribe and Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, follow, and five-star reviews if you would. Thank you. At first, I was like, why do we need three parts? I do, I did think this was a good episode. I didn't expect.

Lori (00:10.166)
Of three. my God, I can't believe it's three parts.

Lori (00:29.454)
Mm.

Kelli (00:34.911)
To get as much Michelle and Lacey interaction. That was like almost the whole first episode.

Lori (00:39.853)
Yeah.

Yeah. Well, you know, there are a lot of people on that cast. So I guess that's why it's three, you know. I don't know.

Kelli (00:47.306)
Yes.

Kelli (00:52.297)
Yeah. I just don't want to talk about Danny and Nia the whole time. I just don't want to do that.

Lori (00:57.27)
Right, and it was good it was good that this time it wasn't like all that. Like this episode of right, it wasn't like all you know what I mean? It was nice to see that. Right, not be a big focus, especially for the first.

Kelli (01:04.553)
Right. Right. We didn't see any of that actually.

Mm-hmm. We haven't even touched on it yet.

Lori (01:17.293)
Three episodes.

Kelli (01:19.167)
Yeah, so it comes on and we see like a lot of what's coming up on the reunion. Like there was a lot of upcoming scenes. So it does seem like it's gonna be pretty busy. And they all come out and they sit down and Jasmine whispers to Schwartz, Jesse looks pissed, he's on the end of the couch. People get very jacked up about their placement on the couches, but I will say I think that maybe he was.

Lori (01:40.374)
Caught that, yeah.

Kelli (01:46.763)
put on the end. I mean, I don't think it really matters, but they I don't know why somebody has to go there.

Lori (01:50.178)
Somebody's gotta go there. I mean, s it's it's a couch. It's like there's only so many speech like seats. Somebody has to go there. And

Kelli (01:58.409)
And think about it, on that side it was Kristen and Luke, Nia and Danny, Zach, and then Jesse and then Lacey. Like they were bringing Lacey out, so I don't know why she just wasn't out from the beginning, but it totally made sense.

Lori (02:09.973)
It kinda made sense. Yeah. Right. Especially if she was gonna come out afterwards. It made sense for him to be on the end. And what we gonna do? Put him in like the middle and then she's gotta walk in front of people to sit down. That that's not yeah, it makes no sense. Yeah, that makes no sense.

Kelli (02:22.856)
Yes, somebody's gotta scotch over. Yeah. And who knows? Maybe he wasn't even pissed. Andy asks Nia how long it took her to get there from Booko Mountain, and she says about an hour. Andy brings up the fact that it's Brittany's first reunion without Jack's. That's pretty monumental for her. And she did look very relieved. relieved, but

Lori (02:44.641)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:51.134)
Probably in pain because the dress was so damn tight.

Lori (02:55.435)
Marona Mia and I don't know, I don't know. And then the thing is is the dress did not look good on her standing up in the photos. And it certainly did not look good on her sitting down. I mean, girls, look, when you go when you're trying on these outfits, you have to sit down in them and think about how it's gonna look and feel when you're sitting down. And you know, like we talked about, sh she

Kelli (02:57.352)
I don't know what these women are doing to themselves, but

Lori (03:24.503)
Just looking great, like she could have worn a great outfit and looked wonderful.

Kelli (03:27.824)
this has nothing to do with her weight or anything like that, because honestly

Lori (03:34.259)
No, no, no. It just has to do with that that dress is not for her.

Kelli (03:39.551)
There's a picture of Kyle Richards online right now. I think from something that they did the other night for the 20th anniversary of Housewives. She's wearing a dress and she's in optimum shape, Kyle. It looks like her boobs are being forced pressed into her body with the top of this dress. I'm like, that looks so uncomfortable.

Lori (03:55.041)
Yes.

Lori (04:02.805)
Yeah, sometimes things just aren't

are just ill fitting and it has nothing to do with your body. They're just ill fitting. They're just not meant they're not meant for you. Right.

Kelli (04:11.326)
Yeah. And they look uncomfortable. Like why do you want I won't even wear jeans that are too tight anymore because if I eat something, I'm gonna feel like a, you know, ten pound sausage in a five pound bag.

Lori (04:22.485)
A stuffed sausage, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. So it was not a not a good look.

Kelli (04:26.972)
Anyway. Then Andy says that a certain No, it wasn't a good look. Andy says a certain doctor is making house calls. And Michelle says, well, she says to Andy, well, you were there, and we've been spending time together. So I don't know what she meant by you were there to Andy, but maybe she met him at an event that Andy was at. He asks Luke about the season, and Luke says he has not watched any episode from this season. And

Lori (04:44.949)
Yeah, I don't know.

Lori (04:55.863)
think they should have to watch it. I think it should be in their contract. You should have to watch yourself back and have some kind of opinion about it or have some kind of thought process about

Lori (05:11.125)
You're like how you were. Like I think that's a huge that should be a huge part of reality T V is that you should have to watch how you behaved and you should have to

Comment or whatever. Like I I don't understand.

Kelli (05:26.356)
Well right. Right. He says that it was it was one of the wor one of the toughest years and he didn't want to relive it. Which I understand, but I mean

Lori (05:37.857)
But I I really think it should be part of your job. This is what I'm saying. I think it should be part of your job.

Kelli (05:40.68)
Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (05:45.012)
I totally agree. Andy congratulates Jasmine on her wedding. It was only a week prior. And then he asks Zach if he got his monster refrigerator back. He says no. He asks Kristen if she's on the Janet what was Adderall.

Lori (06:04.595)
Adderall and amphetamine, like some kind of weird some kind of weird diet.

Kelli (06:08.229)
Some something, diet. And she's like, nope, I'm on a GLP one. I mean, she's doing commercials for it, so there's no reason for her to Right. He says to Lala, welcome to welcome back to the reunion stage. first one on the valley. She says, Yeah, I have not one complaint, but let's see how the day goes.

Lori (06:17.965)
To not say it, yeah.

Kelli (06:33.643)
Schwartz he says he had one of his best years of his life with these guys. What a what a nice thing for Tom Schwartz to have a carefree season after the way Vanderpump rules went out.

Lori (06:45.355)
Yeah, so I figured he was kinda like just happy to like not be in the hot seat kind of a thing, like just watching the world burn around him kind of thing.

Kelli (06:51.899)
Y yeah, because yeah, because on Vanderpump Rules he had a very tumultuous marriage with Katie and not they weren't like it was never like screaming or yelling or anything like that. They just had a lot of th there was just a lot going on in their marriage. But personally I feel like it had a lot to do with Tom Sandoval because he was good friends with Tom Sandoval. I Tom Sandoval was a big problem in their marriage, but

And then with the whole Ariana and Tom Sandoval thing, everybody assumed that Schwartz knew, which of course he did. So he got a lot of flack for that at at the reunion. But carefree season for Schwartzy. Andy asks Danny how he's feeling and he's like, I feel great. It's a great day to have a great day. And Andy's like, How are you really feeling? And he said he was scared.

Lori (07:26.956)
Right.

Kelli (07:47.556)
And he told Andy watching the season back he felt embarrassed and shameful and it was hard to watch. So let's hope. Yeah.

Lori (07:53.144)
And I'm wondering I'm wondering if it's gonna change his behavior at all moving forward. One one should certainly hope that he will make some changes. You know, if if if you if you w watch yourself

Kelli (08:05.885)
I totally agree with you.

Lori (08:13.141)
and you don't have that opinion about yourself, then there's really a problem. I mean, I can see people being in self denial about certain behaviors

not being filmed. But if you are being filmed and then you watch it back and there are behaviors and you still think that there aren't, you know what I mean, things that you need to address, then that's really, really a problem. At least I feel to me, I think that's I think that's a a big problem if you are filmed and cannot recognize things that you need to change.

Kelli (08:54.847)
Well yeah, and the thing is is that he's saying that, but then I think coming up he says he hasn't drank like that since or something, and then they bring up Jasmine's wedding. So so we'll see what happens. But yeah, I agree with you. I like Danny and Nia. I want I I wanna see them on the show, but I would hope that he would recognize that he's just not a good drinker.

Lori (09:03.979)
Winning, right.

Lori (09:17.511)
Right. Mm-hmm. And knock it off. Yeah.

Kelli (09:21.407)
Let's not drink. If you can't control it and say I've had two drinks and I'm not gonna have any more drinks, you should not drink. Yeah.

Lori (09:29.013)
Right. Right. And you should not drink. Right. Absolutely.

Kelli (09:34.86)
So then Andy says a dynamic duo joined the season. And of course we're all thinking he's talking about Tom Schwartz and La La, but he's really talking about baby Kaya and baby Adelaide. And he says to Kristen, when the season started, Kaya was only a few months old. How are you feeling now that she's won? And Kristen says her mental health is in a much better place. She's still not the social butterfly she once was. But at the ten month mark, she started feeling more like herself.

Listen, this is we all knew. Like, of course, postpartum depression thrown in there is makes things worse. But you you know, you go from only taking care of yourself, only worrying about yourself and maybe your spouse, like your whereabouts, what you're gonna eat, blah, blah, blah. And then all of a sudden you're put in charge of a hu another human being who can't do anything for themselves. You have to do everything for this little nugget.

Lori (10:11.159)
Right.

Lori (10:18.125)
Mm.

Lori (10:27.765)
Yes. No. And and right, and cannot communicate to you.

Kelli (10:34.451)
That's right.

Lori (10:36.267)
Besides crying. That's it's bizarre. It's crazy town. It's a crazy town. Right.

Kelli (10:40.873)
It's cr it's crazy. It's a crazy, crazy life change to go through. Yeah. Andy asks the bookos if they're done with babies. And, you know, Danny, of course, makes the face like, well, but th they both say yes. And I mean, we saw him get a vasectomy on the show, and Andy asks if it took, and they're like, Yeah, we haven't really confirmed that. So I don't know how you confirm it.

Lori (11:07.457)
I think you have to submit a sperm sample and then they let you know if there's if there's no viable sperm, then it's successful.

Kelli (11:16.443)
Okay, well get on that, Bucos. I would get on that stat. And he asks Lala about Sosa, and he brings up how much she looks like Luke. And Luke was a sperm donor at one point. But Lala said if the timeline didn't add up, if the timeline added up, she would do a paternity test, but it didn't add up. I mean that baby really does look like him.

Lori (11:18.729)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, lickety split.

Lori (11:30.689)
Yeah, it's funny.

Lori (11:39.053)
Right. It does. Really does. I thought it was funny. Just for hot. Right. Maybe it's a cousin.

Kelli (11:42.845)
It's kind of crazy. They might want to just do a paternity test for just for shits and giggles.

Luke, do you have any family members that also submit some sperm? Brittany and Jax have reached a custody agreement. She says she is not allowed to talk about it. So Andy asks her, and she's like, Well, I'm not allowed to talk about it, but my friends know, and they are. I thought that was hysterical. And Janet says she has primary custody. Andy asks her if

Lori (11:54.443)
Yeah, that ha right. Right.

Kelli (12:20.095)
Jax has to submit drug tests in order to see Cruz. And she says he does it's not, it's not obligated, but he she can ask for one at any time. So Brittany did a people interview, which at first I was like, why are why is she getting a people interview because Jax is dating her publicist? But you know what? I have to stop being like that because she is in the public eye. And even though I'm not a big fan, people are big fans of hers. And

Lori (12:30.656)
Any time, right.

Kelli (12:49.629)
She has obviously gone through hell with this guy. So I didn't watch I I think you can only watch it on the people app or or the website. I didn't watch the whole thing yet, but I did see a clip where she was basically like, or maybe this was on Watch What Happens Live. Either way, at some point she says, After everything this publicist knew he did to me, like sh this publicist knew everything.

Everything Jax did to her, physically, emotionally, verbally, and this woman is still choosing to be with him. That is wild.

Lori (13:21.431)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (13:24.959)
Until I

Lori (13:30.423)
Mm-hmm.

Well, you know, it's it's just one of those things. There are some women who really

Like they look at it as a challenge. They think that they are gonna be the one to change the man. Like from you know, for me, it's for me, it's gonna be different. He did that with her, but he's never he's not gonna do that with me. Like, I'm gonna be the one that changes his whole dynamic, his whole personality, his whole like

Kelli (13:55.955)
Yeah. You're right.

Lori (14:15.575)
That's gonna be me. And it's just this weird shit that some people have.

Kelli (14:17.331)
Right. Yeah, you're right.

Kelli (14:23.595)
Yeah, I mean I had that weird shit about certain people. I thought I was gonna change people. It you don't. You don't. You gotta find somebody that you don't need to change, that's for sure.

Lori (14:29.877)
Yeah, you know, and you don't. You don't. You don't change anybody. Right. And it doesn't mean that people can't grow and evolve and and that people can't change in certain ways. But

Kelli (14:47.903)
Well, if Jax is gonna change, Jax isn't gonna change for the publicist. Like Jax has to get to a place where he acknowledges the wrong he's done and changes on his own for himself.

Lori (14:48.043)
Like a s a snake is a snake. A snake is a snake. No.

Lori (14:59.029)
Right. For himself. Right. For himself, right. That's that's the thing.

Kelli (15:05.811)
I don't think that's happened yet. I I pray for I pray for Cruz that it does happen, but we shall see. I think he's been a hardcore narcissist for a long time, Jax, and I I think that's gonna be a really hard shell to crack.

Lori (15:11.207)
Yeah, I I don't say it.

Lori (15:20.349)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And you know, don't forget.

That narcissists are highly skilled manipulative people. I mean, they they will spin some shit

Kelli (15:31.613)
Of course.

Lori (15:40.395)
that you know, like you could have a video of them doing something and they'll spin it.

To to something that all of a sudden you're gonna be like, Well

Kelli (15:56.268)
yeah, you start thinking you're the problem. Absolutely.

Lori (15:57.218)
You know what I mean? Like yeah, or you're crazy or y you know what I mean? Like they're highly skilled people.

Kelli (16:04.445)
Absolutely.

so Britney does say that the divorce is not settled yet. The custody settled, the divorce isn't, and she's still paying off the loan for his taxes. So from what I understand, this is what I thought. I thought they took out like a home equity loan to pay off his one point two million dollar debt or something. So yes, she's still paying off his debt because now it's part of her mortgage. Like I think maybe they didn't have a mortgage on the house and then they took one to pay off the debt. So

Somehow his debt is is tangled up in her mortgage. So if she's still in the house, yes, she's paying for his debt. So then Jesse says that Jax came at him aggressively after BravoCon because Jesse and Lisi did an interview for an addiction charity and Jax reacted without watching the interview. And Britney says, Yeah, welcome to my world.

So who I don't know what interview they're talking about or the context behind it, but just sounds like he overreacted. And yeah. And then Andy asks Danny if he's talked to Jax, and he says he actually tax texts Danny in the last couple of months out of the blue. And Britney's like, wait a minute. That's interesting because in our parenting app.

Lori (17:06.283)
Right, right.

Lori (17:11.211)
Imagine that.

Kelli (17:30.581)
Jack said basically he just wants to get back on the show to take down Danny. And that was within the past couple of months. And Danny was like, Well, his text was like, Hey, I just want to apologize again. So, I mean, again, we're talking about Jack. So two things can be true.

Lori (17:38.253)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (17:50.989)
Excuse me. Yes.

Kelli (17:54.901)
You know what's interesting? She

Brittany says that he he tries to fight with her in the parenting app. And she's like basically he's just fighting with himself because she's smart enough now to not engage. But from what I understand, the parenting apps are a tool to be used in court. Like it's actually evidence in court where like one situation I know of personally was the two

Lori (18:09.965)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (18:20.028)
for God's sake.

Right.

Kelli (18:29.461)
People divorcing, the parents divorcing, I thought the judge I mean the judge can definitely see what's going on in the app, but the the therapists were in the app too. It wasn't just the husband and wife divorcing, talking about the kids. Like other people are in the app. So could you imagine the text messages Jack's putting in there? And then and then these third parties are seeing it.

Lori (18:50.383)
interesting.

Lori (18:54.797)
Good God.

Kelli (18:59.147)
That was my understanding. But if any listeners out there, if if that's not correct, please let let us know. Because that was my understanding. It was at least my my good girlfriend and her soon to be ex husband or ex husband now and counselors, like therapists, were on the app as well.

Lori (18:59.51)
Right.

Lori (19:05.887)
Yeah, 'cause we wouldn't know.

Lori (19:17.557)
Wow, interesting. And here he is. Here he is probably just like rage texting like he's texting her personally. Like a dump dump. Yeah. In the chat. Yep. Yep. Yeah. we don't need to.

Kelli (19:18.749)
Yeah. I mean that's in New Jersey, maybe it's different in California.

Kelli (19:24.935)
Exactly. That's exactly what I was thinking. Like, does Jax know somebody else is in the in the group chat, Lori.

That's a great story. We'll have to tell that sometime. so the whole cast basically says that Jax is dis saying disparaging things about all of them on Reddit. And like Schwartz is like he's even on there saying shit about Kiana, who he probably has never met. And of course Jax is denying it, but they all know it's him.

And one of the things he said was that Britney had all these surgeries and still looks the same. Like he just must have been such a douchebag to live with. Imagine how verbally and probably physically abusive he was.

Lori (20:10.002)
please. No, no. Abusive. No. Yeah.

Kelli (20:18.025)
So Andy says obviously him not being on the show is giving him time to work on his mental health, but it doesn't sound like he is, and it does not sound like he is.

Lori (20:24.919)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (20:29.643)
and then we get to Michelle. Andy says last season Michelle's relationship with Aaron was all the buzz, but then he ended it in between seasons. And and Andy's like, Did he really end it because you weren't athletic enough? And she's like, Well, he basically said, You look amazing, but ten years from now you might not.

Lori (20:57.909)
I'm telling you these people.

Kelli (20:59.401)
Meanwhile that motherfucker's eyes are buggin' out of his face and his dog and his business are called Kilo.

Lori (21:02.707)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (21:08.533)
So do what you will with that.

Lori (21:10.721)
Right. Absolutely.

Kelli (21:16.241)
Unbelievable. So Andy asks Jesse what his reaction to the breakup was. He says it was upsetting because of Isabella's reaction. And then Jesse starts to cry, but it it's it's

Lori (21:28.755)
You know what? I wrote down he is a drama queen. I don't even watch this show and I could tell you right now I was like, boy, you

Kelli (21:33.585)
Yeah. It Yeah.

Kelli (21:39.303)
It was very Tamra no tear crying. It was giving Tamra. It was bad.

Lori (21:42.035)
It was yeah, it was it was bad. It was bad. It was bad. He needs to work on that a little more because that was Yeah, those two were something else.

Kelli (21:51.103)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (21:57.046)
Well, something must have happened because we saw during the season they had some very nice moments where they were getting along because they have been contentious up until this season, but they had some really nice moments this season where it was like, you know, they were they're getting divorced, but they're kind they were kind of mourning their relationship and in a good place moving on. Something had to happen before this.

Lori (22:05.599)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Lori (22:22.635)
Right. Yeah, because they are not right now. And the if Michelle could send fire through her eyeballs

Kelli (22:35.039)
Yes, yes.

Lori (22:37.451)
That chick and him would have been receiving it because she was given the stink eye several times. I was like

Kelli (22:45.141)
Yes.

Kelli (22:48.501)
So something definitely happened because Jasmine got married. Jasmine's from New Jersey, and so is her wife, Melissa. They got married in New Jersey a week prior to the reunion. Jesse was there, Michelle was not. Meanwhile, Michelle was in New York doing real estate with Ryan Sirhant, who's another Bravo guy. If you're in New York for the weekend working on a real estate deal and your friends getting married in North Jersey,

Lori (23:13.089)
Yeah, why aren't you in New Jersey? Yeah, what yeah, that's like a hop skip and a jump. Yeah.

Kelli (23:17.075)
You wouldn't go to the wedding Hop, skip and a jump. So I think something happened between Michelle and Jessie and that's why she didn't she probably came with the intention of going to the wedding and then was like, yeah, no.

Lori (23:29.491)
I'm not doing it, right.

Kelli (23:32.716)
Andy says it was so Michelle does say that the breakup at the end of the day was the best thing to happen for her and Isabella. I'm sure because I think the guy's got a cocaine problem. you know, I'm just saying. Andy says it was very cute to watch Schwartzy and Michelle dance around each other all season. And Michelle says that they are playful, but they don't see each other that way. And then Andy, of course, brings up the picture of Michelle and Dr. Dre holding hands.

Lori (23:43.905)
Yeah. Right.

Lori (23:55.095)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (24:00.916)
And she says, I don't want to get into it, whether or not we're officially dating and then Jesse kinda whispers something and she was like, What's that? And he's like, No, no, no. And she's like, No, say it to my face And he said, It sounds like a DNA and she said, I don't have a DNA. N D A, sorry.

Lori (24:14.269)
N D A N D A D N A bloody. No.

Kelli (24:19.499)
N D A, sorry. I drank some wine. and she says, I'm having fun and I'm living my life.

So then Jesse brings up there have been three people in two years that we know of that Michelle has dated. Two of them met my daughter and one threw my daughter out of his house. And Michelle says that Dr. Dre has not met her daughter. And Jesse says he wouldn't Andy's like, have you to Jesse, have you asked Isabella? And he's like, I'm not doing that. I'm not gonna ask my daughter.

Lori (24:50.207)
Which I think is which I think is good. I think that was I think definitely think that was the right answer. But you know, just because I don't know.

Kelli (24:58.645)
Do you believe him though? I think it's the right answer. I also think he's asked her though.

Lori (25:04.877)
Pro probably. He probably can't help himself. but I mean, I certainly could see where Michelle was at work, her daughter was at work, that comedian that she went on a couple of dates for, maybe he came to look at the house or was hanging out for a little bit and she introduced doesn't mean she said, you know, this is the guy Stuppen. It just just 'cause you introduced somebody

Kelli (25:21.875)
Absolutely. Yes.

Lori (25:34.808)
To somebody else doesn't mean that you're telling them you know, it doesn't mean that the child knew that her mother was in a c any kind of a relationship or even had gone out even on one date. She could have just been like, and this is blah blah blah blah blah, and that's and that's it. Like, d don't get all you know. But yeah, but I definitely think that he does have an element of

Kelli (25:51.95)
totally agree. Getting all jacked up about it.

Lori (26:02.849)
control where Michelle is concerned and he doesn't like not having that

Kelli (26:08.639)
And I I totally agree with you there. And I also think that hit

Lori (26:10.421)
And and it's so weird. I think it's so weird because I think that his relationship with what's the other girl's name? Lacey, I think that he kinda has like a weird kink with her. Like he he likes her to like humiliate him and kinda be in char like be bossy bet. Like there's a we it's w I find it very weird.

Kelli (26:18.217)
Lacey.

Kelli (26:35.551)
Well, she's extremely wealthy. Extremely. Her divorce set her up. She will never have to worry about money. So I think that you're right. I think he kind of likes it in a sense where he probably figures I mean, I'm sure he loves Lacey. I'm not saying he's just with her for the money, because I do think they have great banter and I do think that they have great chemistry. But he's never gonna be able to control her.

Lori (26:44.973)
Mm.

Lori (26:54.327)
For the money, right.

Kelli (27:01.971)
He's never gonna she's never gonna like sub be submissive. And I do think he likes that. And he probably figures, you know, I'm gonna let her do whatever do and say whatever she wants. Yeah.

Lori (27:11.017)
Right. And whatever she wants. Right. Right.

Kelli (27:15.679)
Yeah. So I I'm interested in what your thoughts are on this. And the fact that I hate Janet a d str exc excuse me, I strongly dislike Janet. Doesn't really help. But Andy brings up Janet's crush on Michelle. And Michelle says that, you know, Janet would tell her that she had a crush on her, but when she watched the season back, she was like, wow, like you really do.

And then he asks Jason, you know

Lori (27:50.293)
Or would she have a problem?

Kelli (27:52.096)
Would he have a problem? And he's like, Of course. Yeah, now that I know she's in love with her. Let me ask you something. Is this not a double standard? Like, could you look at could you just imagine if this were what if this were Janet saying this about a guy? Would we be laughing it off so much? Like, ha ha ha ha is it just because it's a woman? It's okay for Janet to go on and on and fawn all over.

Lori (28:06.903)
The other way around.

Kelli (28:21.587)
Another person while she's married to Jason.

Lori (28:22.721)
Well, I don't think I don't think when you're married to somebody you should be fawning over anybody at all. And certainly I mean, in your own mind, drunk with your girlfriends. We call a little something slip, whatever. But not on TV. Come on. No, no. No. And and I just wanna I wanna bring this up because I heard

Kelli (28:28.127)
That's what I'm saying.

Kelli (28:42.559)
National television.

I really think

Lori (28:52.417)
Jesse, right?

Go on and on about how the girlfriend has made him this totally different person. You know what? Listen, nobody should make you become somebody else. I just thought that was really I thought that was really weird. And like I was just like, dude, like what are you what are you even saying? And that's not the first time I've heard him say it.

Kelli (29:13.769)
That's all bullshit.

Mm-hmm.

Lori (29:24.331)
And I've only watched maybe like three episodes. So I was like

Lori (29:31.005)
No. Like nobody makes you be somebody totally different. And if they do

There's something wrong there and it's certainly not something you should be like touting about. It it just yeah, it was weird, it was odd.

Kelli (29:46.816)
Right, it's not a flex. I think it's insulting for him to keep saying things like she you know, basically he's saying she makes him want to be a better person, right? But you're saying that in front of the mother of your daughter. It's a very unique situation with Michelle and Jesse on this show. I don't think we've ever really seen a divorced couple come on a reality show, married, divorce, and stay on it divorce. I I really have to think about that. And again, I'm sure a viewer will call me out if I'm wrong.

But it's a very unique situation we have with them. It isn't I'm not the hugest Michelle fan, and quite honestly, I don't think she brings anything to this show. Jesse is much more dynamic, has much more personality, whether you like him or not. But she's on the show. So I do feel like he shouldn't say those things because it's disrespectful to the mother of his daughter.

Lori (30:30.956)
Right.

Lori (30:39.307)
Yeah, I just thought it was just a really weird flex and I'm just I was just like, you know what? Y I don't know what you're trying to do, but it's in my in my eyes, it's failing horribly.

Kelli (30:52.959)
Yeah, I totally agree. I totally agree. But this like this thing with Janet, like of course I have my celebrity crushes. My two hall passes are Mark Wahlberg and L L. Cool J. You can even throw Brody Jenner in there. Like I have hall passes, celebrity hall passes. My husband's well aware. But I even if you know, like I find women attractive, of course, I find men attractive, of course, but I'm not like

Fawning all over them and saying on national television that, you know, if I were gonna go this way, this would be the person. When they're in my friend group, it's fucking weird. Yeah. And if it were a man, she wouldn't do this. So that to me is a double standard. Just because it's a female, it's okay for you to do this, basically like sh throw it in front of your husband's face.

Lori (31:26.879)
When you work and you work with them like that, like it's just we it is weird.

Kelli (31:46.4)
How attracted you are to somebody else. Male or female. You're just going on and on about how you're so attracted to somebody else. That's disrespectful to your husband, who has been nothing but ride or die for you, where I would have hit the road a long time ago. Cause you seem like a crazy person.

Lori (31:49.269)
Right, to somebody else. Male or fem right, exactly.

Lori (32:02.519)
Mm.

Kelli (32:07.219)
All right. I'm a I'm interested to see what the listeners think. Brittany hasn't spoken to Brandon since the last episode he wa he was on. I think that's what she said. And everybody basically says they think she moved on too fast she moved too fast with him and they didn't like him. But you know, i I think it was like Schwartz, he like he was kinda like, you know, engaging and stuff, but once you didn't like him, you didn't like him.

Lori (32:10.348)
Yes.

Kelli (32:36.285)
And Zack says that Britney was in such a fragile state because of how Jax would beat her down and her judgment was off and she was susceptible to being love bombed. That's I mean, that checks out.

Lori (32:46.189)
Well yeah, listen, you y you had a bad picker to begin with. That's not gonna just automatically go away. So it's of no surprise at all that she picked a bum.

Kelli (32:52.329)
Right. Yeah.

Kelli (33:05.133)
listen, I have said this and I feel bad for Brittany and I want nothing but the best for Brittany and Cruz. I I think she's an incredible mom. But I have said this for a while. She knew exactly who Jax was when she started dating him. One time she said she didn't watch the show. She's full of shit. She knew who Jax was. You saw him. You saw how he behaved. You dated him. He you got engaged. He cheated on you and you stayed with him.

Lori (33:29.611)
Married him, had a kid with him.

Kelli (33:35.669)
Like you knew who this fucking guy was. He never pretended to be anybody other than who he really was. That's not that doesn't mean that I don't feel bad for her and I want to see her be super successful after this, but she does say she's seeing a narcissistic abuse coach, and I think that that's really good because

Lori (33:38.635)
Right. Anything else? Right, right, right.

Lori (33:53.816)
I think yeah, I think that I thought that was awesome. I was like, That's a perfect thing for you girl.

Kelli (33:59.456)
Yeah. Yeah. And she says she needs to set bigger boundaries. Andy asks her how much money she gave Brandon and she was embarrassed to say and i mean she says basically it's somewhere in between five and ten thousand, but probably closer to the ten thousand mark. I mean this fucking guy. This guy

Lori (34:06.471)
my god. She should be embarrassed to say. God's sake.

Lori (34:18.623)
yeah.

Kelli (34:23.755)
Andy says she looks great and asks her how she feels after her meek over. And she said she feels great and like just you could just see it in her face because Jack's really did a number on her obviously. and and he asks who was the most supportive after her surgery. I feel like she said Kristen too. I feel like she said Kristen and Zach was like, You better say my name, and then she did.

Lori (34:44.823)
Yes.

Lori (34:48.365)
Okay.

Kelli (34:51.165)
I did think it was very interesting that she didn't say Janet though, her BFF, whose upper ass, but whatever. and then of course we get into how Nia didn't text message her after her surgery, and only showed support on social media and on camera. And you know, she said that this she said, I know people think that.

you know, because this was elective surgery, which I I said it like this was electric elective elective surgery. You know, I understand you still want support from your friends, but I don't know. To me it's like you chose to do this, so but anyway, she says it was really important because of how she was treated. And Nia's support was questioned. She said, I understand why it looked the way

Lori (35:25.133)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (35:34.474)
Right, right.

Kelli (35:46.335)
The rest of them said it did, like that I wasn't being supportive, but I know my heart and I always want to be there for my friends. And I was postpartum and I had a lot going on. And as she's saying this

Lori (35:57.75)
Hell yeah, f three kids and another one and forget it. Forget it.

Kelli (36:02.697)
Yeah, but as she's saying this, Jasmine's rolling her eyes. La La's got the stank face on. I mean, you know, and Britney's like, listen, I know you had a lot going on, but you could have sent me a text. And she's not wrong. Britney's not wrong.

Lori (36:05.245)
I saw that, yes. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Lori (36:17.579)
It's not wrong. It's not wrong. Absolutely.

Kelli (36:21.279)
So then Lacey joins them and Jesse gets up and he walks over and he helps her down the stairs.

Lori (36:28.331)
Mm. Mm. Yeah. F let the fawning begin.

Kelli (36:30.716)
exactly. Exactly. Andy asks just

Lori (36:35.019)
Now, I don't know if you notice, I don't know if you notice this, but during their conversation, you know, him, Andy talking to them too, and back and forth, and back and forth. So they're holding hands, and then then they show them and they're not holding hands. And then you see her reach onto his lap, take his hand, and

move it back onto her knee. Now, there is there is a difference between that and putting her putting her hand on his hand, holding his hand and then moving it back over to her knee. There's two totally different things.

Kelli (37:08.041)
I did see that.

Kelli (37:29.119)
Yeah. I did see that.

Lori (37:30.431)
i it was very it was very like

Like very like forceful. It was weird and I was just like

Kelli (37:40.428)
So there was a conversation between Michelle and Lacey this season, and basically Michelle said, I always wanted affection from Jesse. Like we weren't always like this. At one point, Jesse and I were very much in love. And I craved the attention from him and the affection, and he just wouldn't give it to me. So it's difficult for me to see him giving that to you. So that stuck in my head when I saw Lacey pull that move.

Lori (38:07.565)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Kelli (38:08.681)
Because she knows how that affects Michelle. And then once they start talking, we see how adversarial Michelle and Lacey are being with each other. Yeah.

Lori (38:19.987)
very. Yes. But now what about the whole thing with Michelle saying that she didn't send these texts when everybody saw these texts? Like what was that?

Kelli (38:34.439)
I feel like Michelle is, it's just so funny. Michelle is doing what they're all accusing Nia of doing and basically trying to protect her image. I think Michelle can pop off, especially when it comes to Jesse. I think that she can go fucking crazy because we hear about

Lori (38:55.157)
Yeah, 'cause I s I can see that that like I said, that look in her eye. She's g it's just like the crazy eye.

Kelli (38:59.935)
Yes.

Yes, but she wants to hide it because Andy brings up the argument between Michelle and Lacey at the finale last year. And Michelle says she was sitting in the bar with Britney and Sheena, and Lacey went up to her. She wanted to have a conversation. Michelle said she didn't want to. Lacey wouldn't back off. She wasn't respecting her personal space. Jasmine, your friend, recorded it. And l and Michelle was screaming and yelling. And Lacey says.

Why did you tell Jasmine to delete the video? And she said, because I was yelling. Like she doesn't want people to know when she's being like that. Right.

Lori (39:37.386)
Yelling, right?

Lori (39:42.733)
Popping off. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Kelli (39:46.526)
It just drives me crazy because Brittany said on Watch What Happens Live, like Andy's like, What's your problem with Nia? And she's I really don't have a problem with Nia. We are friends. I love Nia. But it's not fair to go on a reality TV show where I'm showing every aspect of my life, the good, the bad, everything. And they're trying to hide things. Well, here you go. Like, so is Michelle. And Britney, you're Michelle's friend. So you damn well know that. Meanwhile, Janet and Jason.

Lori (40:09.526)
Right.

Kelli (40:16.933)
show nothing about their real lives. We barely saw Jason this season because he got hurt. We never see their kid, which that's fine. If they choose to not put their kid on the show, I get that. But you show nothing of your real lives. All you do is go around and poke at other people. We didn't see any any part of Lala's real life this season. Like it's like they're you know, they're hypocrites.

Lori (40:26.059)
Right. Right. Right. Right.

Lori (40:35.049)
Nitpicking other people's Yeah, nitpicking other people's shit.

Lori (40:41.142)
Right.

Kelli (40:47.103)
So anyway,

Lori (40:49.673)
and did you catch?

Jesse giving Michelle the finger.

Kelli (40:55.869)
No, did he?

Lori (40:58.923)
He went to rub the corner of his eye and they were in the middle of the argument and I was like, look at you, look at you he definitely gave he definitely gave her the finger. There's not a doubt in my mind.

Kelli (41:01.147)
I did see that.

Kelli (41:06.109)
I did see that now that you say that.

Yes.

Kelli (41:14.421)
So then they start talking about Michelle basically says that Lacey called her I guess the day after the finale. and was basically like this is ex this is how our relationship is gonna go.

And Lacey's denying this. She's like, no, I didn't. And the you know, the whole back and forth. So Michelle's basically saying Lacey called her and yelled at her. Lacey's saying I never yelled. I was being assertive. And then they bring up the whole cease and desist. And Michelle says that Lacey said to her, if you don't do what I say, I will sue you and I will win because I have all the money in the world.

Lori (42:04.767)
I can see her saying that. I can see her saying that. Absolutely.

Kelli (42:06.271)
I could kind of see her saying that. I like Lacey, but I could totally, totally in the heat of the moment see her saying that. Yeah. Michelle does, Andy says, Do you still see Lacey as unstable and chaotic? And Michelle says, Yes. And Lacey says, you are projecting because you hate your ex-husband and you're mad at your life. Listen, I don't think Michelle's mad at her life.

Lori (42:11.531)
I would totally see her saying that.

absolutely.

Kelli (42:34.823)
I think that Michelle is glad to not be with Jesse anymore. And maybe the only thing she's mad about is that she still has to fucking deal with this guy because she has a kid with him and she's gonna be dealing with him. Basically for the rest of her life, she's gonna be dealing with him because it doesn't end when they turn eighteen. She's gotta be on a show with them.

Lori (42:45.547)
And she's got to be on a show with him.

Lori (42:50.091)
And she's gotta be in and she gotta be on a show with him. Imagine being on a show imagine being on a show with your ex and then you have to deal with his new girl.

Kelli (42:56.233)
Yeah. Nope.

Kelli (43:01.715)
No, trust me.

Lori (43:03.915)
Yeah. But I think that the girlfriend has the ability

To remain very calm and I think that that makes Michelle even more crazy.

Kelli (43:20.885)
Right. On camera, Lacey can stay very composed.

Lori (43:26.741)
Mm, mm. I mean who knows how she is off camera, but I think that aspect, I think that aspect of her, like, drives Michelle insane.

Kelli (43:31.157)
Think it's different.

Lori (43:40.119)
So I think in some ways maybe she does project a little bit, but I think it's has something to do with that too.

Kelli (43:47.616)
Right. But Lacey basically does say to Michelle, and she's not wrong, like, just because Jesse was mistreating you at the time we started dating doesn't mean you should be mean to me. And she says that she's only sent one seasoned assist in her life to Michelle. So Andy's like, We were all under the impression that you were getting along. And Lacey says everything is a projection and I have never yelled at her. And Lacey said Michelle was screaming in the middle of the street.

So this was something else that happened. Lacey said Michelle was screaming in the middle of the street because Lacey had brought a basket for Isabella. And l yeah, and Lacey says, Michelle sent her a text message that says, I'm gonna ruin your life. And Michelle denies sending the text message. And Zach's like, I saw it. And like Jasmine was nodding her head, Nia was nodding her head, like

Lori (44:26.828)
for Valentine's Day or something, right?

Lori (44:39.745)
But yeah.

Lori (44:44.797)
I'm saying what are you doing, Michelle? Like what are you doing?

Kelli (44:44.853)
People saw this text message.

Kelli (44:49.951)
Right. So that's I think that she's just trying to hide part of her persona, Michelle, and you know, you're on reality TV. She just tries to play it off like she's this calm, classy, reasonable person.

Lori (44:58.241)
Mm-hmm. Right.

Lori (45:07.35)
Right.

Kelli (45:10.433)
so then Lisey said that

Kelli (45:15.921)
She called Michelle at one point and said, Please let me know whatever you need, like when she and Jesse started dating and Michelle called her back and said, Jesse's an alcoholic and spent all our money. He definitely spent all her money. I don't know about the alcoholic thing.

And then Michelle said she decided to never speak to Lacey again because they disagree on how Lacey treated her. But judging from the video, it seemed like Michelle was the aggressor.

Lori (45:47.223)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (45:48.968)
I don't know. Ma Lacey said that misogyny is deep in them. And I believe she's talking about Michelle, Janet, and Lala. And she said, good luck with that. I mean, listen, I agree. I think that those three are man haters. I really do. Even though Janet's married, I think Michelle's all fucked up from what happened to her with Jesse. I think Lala is all effed up from what happened with her and Randall. And Janet is just miserable.

Lori (46:17.719)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (46:22.463)
Zach said that he and Kristen told Jesse to lay off of Michelle as being pr like by saying she's being performative. Yeah. And and then they go into how Zach and Jesse are good friends now and FaceTime each other all the time. And Zach's like, it's like borderline stalker, which is pretty funny because it's an unlikely duo.

Lori (46:29.197)
Performative, yeah.

Lori (46:43.349)
It's he's self running.

Yes, very unlikely do.

Kelli (46:48.893)
Yeah. And Jesse says I've known Michelle for twelve years and she says, You don't even know what kind of music I like and Andy's like, Doctor Dre

And then Jesse says that performative isn't the right word for Michelle. He thinks she's fake and being coached by Lala. And then he says Lala made a comment she was trying to teach Michelle how to hate people or something. And Michelle's like, you're ridiculous. I mean, La I mean, Lala's, she's she's gonna, you know, she is a seasoned reality TV personality. So maybe she was saying certain things to Michelle to help her. That's just being a friend.

Lori (47:26.658)
Right.

Kelli (47:30.869)
That's

Lori (47:31.126)
Right, right.

Kelli (47:34.517)
So Jasmine gets called out by a viewer for talking smack about her friends and her confessionals and not saying things to her faces and she's like, Listen, I get shut down all the time when I try to talk in this group.

Lori (47:43.883)
Now is this is this true?

Kelli (47:47.198)
it's not wrong. She's not wrong. I I I actually I actually agree with Jasmine on this. Because Jasmine and Zach are kind of background players on this show. So I kind of agree with that. I mean, I I think she could say more to their faces than she does. I think she is being shady a lot in her confessionals. But it but like see right here, she's not gonna deny doing it. She's not gonna back down.

Lori (47:49.887)
Okay. I wanted to ask you that.

Lori (47:59.832)
yeah, mm-hmm.

Lori (48:08.981)
Any confessional.

Kelli (48:17.107)
She's she's gonna, you know, say why why she did it. So she did.

Kelli (48:24.411)
Andy brings up Kristen and Janet being mortal enemies. He says that Kristen said at BravoCon that Janet and Jason will be the next Bravo couple to get divorced. I I don't like this question. This question comes up at BravoCon a lot. Let's just stop asking this question because that's it's just not a nice question. And we should never be championing. Yeah, we should never be championing for for a couple to break up. like as much as I dislike Janet.

Lori (48:36.085)
No, it's not a good qu no, it's not a good question at all. Mm-hmm.

No, and then they feel like you gotta come up with an answer. Right. The demise of couples. No. No.

Kelli (48:54.323)
I don't wanna see her and Jason not make it, like you know.

Lori (48:58.165)
Right, absolutely not. Yeah.

Kelli (49:01.323)
I don't know. You're just you're messing with people's marriages and I don't like it. And Kristen's like, listen, I just wanted to give an answer and I was pissed at them. I was pissed at Janet. And this is this is what I loathe about Janet. Janet says, Honestly, I was happy about it because typically the couples that Kristen supports don't wind up together.

Lori (49:04.543)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Kelli (49:29.163)
She's just insufferable.

And Kristen everyone's like, huh? Kristen's like, I don't support couples, I support my friends and whatever makes them happy. And Kristen's like, You've been holding on to that one.

Lori (49:43.521)
Listen, Kristen just

Kristen just doesn't like her. And that's okay. You don't have to like everybody. Even the people you work with. You don't have to explain or you know, give the example. You don't have to give examples of why you don't like. I just don't like you. I've tried. You're not my jam. I I don't you're not my tribe. I don't take you. Just I don't take you. Like it doesn't matter what you do. Right. And that's just it.

Kelli (49:54.654)
Exactly.

Kelli (50:05.513)
Right. It's just not working anymore. It's just not working anymore. Yeah. At one point they were good friends. They're not anymore.

That's it. we're getting close to an hour. We gotta wrap this up. Andy asks Zach what action he was looking for from Janet. And he said he wanted to see like behavioral change over time instead of some like over-the-top performative thing where she's like giving you a gift, or he says she has manipulative tactics. Janet says you invited me to your houseworming party and I couldn't go, so I sent you a gift.

Lori (50:19.733)
All right, wrap it up. Wrap aro

Lori (50:40.62)
Uh-huh.

Kelli (50:46.463)
But Zach was nodding his head like there was something more to that. They didn't go into it.

Lori (50:50.722)
Right.

Kelli (50:52.979)
This was a valid question. Andy asks Kristen why she's so hard on Janet after she's had to work her way back after Backlash for the things she did. So on Vanderpump Rules, Kristen's friends pretty much all turned on her. Kristen had very poor behavior on VPR. I mean, Jax was dating Stasi at the time. Kristen was dating Tom Sandoval. Tom and Jax were best friends.

Kristen and Stasi were good friends. Kristen slept with Jax twice.

Lori (51:28.001)
Kelli (51:29.799)
She her behavior has been very questionable over the years. However, she has done a 180. She has worked on herself. And she says she wants to see evolution. And she worked really hard after Vanderpump rules. She went to therapy. And then little by little, her friend started coming back into her life. She wasn't forcing it on anybody. They saw that she made a change. They saw that she evolved.

Lori (51:36.909)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (51:58.528)
They came back to to, you know, repair the friendship with her. Whereas I believe she didn't say it. So Lala says nobody gives Janet a chance. And Kristen's like, I've been waiting all summer and I've seen nothing. This is the problem. Lala, Michelle, Britney, they're all trying to force Janet down Zach, Kristen, and well, not really Nia and Danny, but Zach and Kristen's throats because they were all good friends at one point. But

If they see how Janet's moving and they don't like it, they it's their right to not be friends with her.

Lori (52:32.395)
And they don't like it, right? Absolutely.

Kelli (52:38.631)
Jason said going into season three, certain people wanted to earn brownie points with the viewers. So here we go again. They are refusing to make up with Janet because they want to appease the viewers. I don't think that's it at all.

Lori (52:54.337)
Talking about Zack, I haven't wa like I said, what have I watched? Three, four episodes? I can tell right away that is not how that is not how Zack is. He could Yeah.

Kelli (53:04.915)
And it's not how Kristen is either because viewers have hated Kristen over the years. And I just can't see her really giving an F. You know what I mean?

Lori (53:17.429)
Right. Yeah.

Kelli (53:19.411)
And even Lacy said, I disagree with that. I think Zach really loves Janet deep down. He doesn't care about what the viewers say. I I don't think either one of them do.

so Janet then brings up so Lacey in the earlier in the season brought up the fact that Janet was doing investigating on her, like looking up her HOA fees, how much she pays, saying that she tried to become a real housewife of the OC seventeen times. So Janet brings up the fact that a lot of this was done by Sheena, which Sheena's not on Sheena was from Vanderpump Rules. She's not on this show.

But I I do believe that that's probably true, but I think that Janet was right there with her. Andy asks who the Baywatch guy is that Lacey dated. And Lacey says she has a seasoned assist and can't answer. And they were like, Really? She's like, No, no, no, I'm just kidding. So Andy's like, but David Hasselhoff did block you, and she was like, Yeah, and his wife, which is really embarrassing.

Lori (53:59.054)
Mm.

Kelli (54:25.319)
Andy says that Lala said she doesn't understand where Kristen's disdain for Janet comes from. And Kristen says it's been a few things and especially how she treats Zach. So Janet's like, I'd love to know what I've done to Zach. And he says, You always have to have the last dig and you can't let things go. And Lala's like, But that's you too, Zach. So

Andy asks what's not resolved, and Zach says if we can keep the past in the past, then I would love to move forward. So Andy asks them to shake hands and then they get up and hug.

Did you see Danny and he was like, What was ha what's happening? When Zach got up to hug? Yeah. And and Nia's like, Well, reunions are for getting people in a better place and you know, maybe there's a chance for us depending how things are approached.

Lori (55:07.213)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (55:18.667)
Andy says Britney was frustrated with Zach at Chili's, and how is your relationship now? And Britney says she loves Zach. He's like her brother, and you know, all of a sudden out of nowhere, he started yelling at her and screaming at her, and he really hurt her feelings. And Zach says, No matter what, Britney and Zach are always going to be okay. she's never not gonna be his sister. But he said he used to walk on eggshells and let a lot of things hurt him during her relationship with Zach Jax.

He speaks up more now and he defends himself because he feels more comfortable doing so. and it comes off different for their relationship, for their friendship.

Lori (56:00.641)
Yeah, because your friendship your friendship is gonna evolve. You know, it's not gonna always be how it how it was in the beginning and you know.

Kelli (56:00.832)
So Brittany feels

Kelli (56:11.977)
Yeah, I mean and and that's a shame if he felt like he was walking on eggshells. I I'm assuming that anyone who comes around Jack's is walking on eggshells because to me he just he seems like a tea kettle always ready to ready to boil over. So Brittany now feels like she's the one that's never allowed to say anything. And Zach just says everyone can have an opinion. It's just a it's just a different vibe in our friendship now.

Lori (56:12.269)
You know two kids in college anymore.

Lori (56:21.173)
Yeah.

Lori (56:25.409)
Ready to boil. Yep. Absolutely.

Kelli (56:40.543)
That I'm speaking my mind more. So then Andy brings up the guilt tripping comment and he says to Kristen, We all saw you say it on camera. And Kristen was like, I know that I said it and I don't know why I didn't admit it. And Brittany says, At the moment Zach believed Kristen, and all of a sudden she was a liar, and that made her feel really bad. And she says the finger has been pointed at her a lot, even when she hasn't done anything wrong.

Lori (56:40.589)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (57:09.109)
And then Zach says, You haven't had my back. And she says, Honey, I've had your back through and through. And Britney says, We have had a conversation about that and we moved past it. And then all of a sudden Andy's like, Okay, we're gonna break for lunch. And you could tell Britney was like, But wait a minute, like we're actually getting somewhere here. So it'll be interesting to see next week when they pick up. I mean, I'm assuming they're gonna go right back into this. I hope so.

Lori (57:27.467)
Yeah. Right, right.

Lori (57:33.985)
Yeah, have that conversation continuous.

Right.

Kelli (57:39.595)
So it was like I'm I'm a decent note taker when I watch these shows, but I felt like this there was a lot in this episode and none of it had to do with Danny and Naya. So I was actually pleasantly surprised. Exactly.

Lori (57:44.769)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, there was.

Yeah. Yeah. So we shall see.

Kelli (57:58.239)
We shall see. So that's it. That was the first episode. Sorry it's so long, but I really felt like there was a lot going on.

Lori (58:05.751)
There was a lock up.

Kelli (58:07.401)
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Lori (58:12.501)
Yes.

Lori (58:22.786)
Yes, yes we do. All right, bye.

Kelli (58:24.885)
Bye.