The Valley-Jasmine EXPLODES Over ‘Fake’ Accusations 😳 | The Valley S3 E3 Breakdown

Wendy (00:01.038)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.673)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:06.914)
We are talking about The Valley, season three, episode three, the Santa Clarita Trail. But before we do that, I wanna remind everyone to please subscribe, head over to YouTube, hit subscribe button, give us five star reviews, tell your friends, share our podcast, and we appreciate you.

Kelli (00:27.971)
Thank you.

Wendy (00:30.924)
We start out at Nia's house and she's getting ready for the party that's going to be at her house the next day. Then we see Jasmine's talking to Zach and they're talking about her wedding and the save the date cards.

Kelli (00:44.973)
Yeah, save the dates are ordered, right?

Wendy (00:47.734)
Yep, they're ordered. Kristen goes with Brittany to the Beverly Hills Plastic Surgery Center, and it has been 10 years since Brittany had her boobs done. When I look back at those pictures, it's just like, wow, I can't believe it's been 10 years.

Kelli (01:04.023)
I know she looks like a different person. And I don't say that in a negative way, I just really mean she looks like a different person. I know they live in that area and everybody's plumping their face up and stuff, she was so, she's still beautiful. I'm not saying she's not beautiful, but so natural. She was so naturally beautiful.

Wendy (01:07.075)
Bye.

Wendy (01:17.271)
Yeah.

Wendy (01:22.19)
She was.

Wendy (01:25.806)
She was, yes. Yeah, she really was. I mean, listen, she's still gorgeous. She's still very pretty.

Kelli (01:33.747)
Absolutely. Even Kristin, even Kristin, when you see her, like her face is plumped up. You know, she's still beautiful, but when we first met Kristin, like she was very natural too. All of them were. But you know, you live in that area, that's what you do.

Wendy (01:45.024)
Yes, they all were. They were.

Wendy (01:49.922)
That's what you do. And she's there to talk about getting her mommy makeover. And she wants to get a tummy tuck and light bow and she wants to get her boobs reduced and a lift. All right, that sounds, I wish they would talk prices, I really do.

Kelli (01:51.361)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:07.587)
Yeah, me too. How about when the doctor said to Kristen don't worry. You're next I was like at first I was like, oh my god But then when you watch the after show she goes on to say that she's talked to the doctor about it and they basically told her like if You're not done having kids don't do it yet So I'm sure he said that because he knows she's planning on it. But if you didn't know that you're like yikes

Wendy (02:13.973)
I know.

Wendy (02:22.498)
Yes.

Wendy (02:33.078)
I know. I know. I know.

And even when Kristen was talking about it in her confessional, she's like, you know, I stand in front of, in the mirror with my robe on and I just, you know, I just cry because like there's nothing I can find that fits me in my closet. I just am not happy with the way my body looks. And she's postpartum. Like that's how it is. It's how it is. Like you'll get through it, Kristen. You will get through it. You will.

Kelli (03:01.207)
Yep. yeah.

Kelli (03:08.099)
Yeah, and thankfully she's got enough women around her, Nia, Brittany, La La, know, enough people around her to tell her like, that's normal. You know, it sucks, but it's normal.

Wendy (03:20.064)
Yeah, and you know, it does suck. And I absolutely feel for people like Kristin and Brittany, because when you are surrounded with people like Lala and Nia and even Michelle, we didn't know her when she first got pregnant, but those are people that bounce back right away. And that is not the norm. That is not the norm. Those are people that genetically are like that. Cause you know, I know I didn't.

Kelli (03:44.375)
It's not.

Wendy (03:49.87)
I mean, I did not know it did not just come off. did not just come off. Yeah, there you go. Like, but

Kelli (03:52.803)
I still haven't bounced back. It's been 18 years. I also don't put a lot of effort into it, so.

Wendy (04:00.63)
Yeah, but even still, like some people just naturally have that. It is what it is, right? It just is what it is. And Kristen gets a little Botox done while she's there. Nothing wrong with that, I guess, if you need it. If you want it, do it.

Kelli (04:03.905)
Yes. Yes. Yes.

Kelli (04:16.035)
So yeah, absolutely.

Wendy (04:18.526)
The girls are excited that they're going to a Y, they're going for a girls night out and it's a Y2K themed night at a bar called Zero Lounge, which that happens to be the theme of that bar. I mean, we can so relate to that, you know, so relate to that. You're just talking about it.

Kelli (04:35.969)
I can so relate to it. mean, obviously we're older than them, but I mean, I remember Y2K. Like I remember working at a law firm and we thought our computers were gonna crash. Remember that? Like everybody thought the whole, like all of our computers were gonna crash, but I was single at the time and I was going out and I was dressing like that. wait.

Wendy (04:49.025)
Yes.

Wendy (04:57.73)
It's so funny.

Kelli (05:00.515)
Was I single? No, I started dating Eric in 1999. Whoops. But I do remember that fashion in the late 90s, like with the butterfly clips and yeah. I was definitely dressing like that before starting to date him. Well, even when I did date him. You know what I'm saying.

Wendy (05:10.977)
Yeah.

Wendy (05:17.398)
Yeah, I thought they looked cute. I thought they all looked cute with their butterfly clips in their hair. Yes. Yeah, yeah, it was clueless. Then we see...

Kelli (05:20.311)
It's super cute.

It was very clueless.

Wendy (05:34.23)
Luke meets up with Jason at the coffee shop and Luke starts out with, know, I wanted to check in with you and see, you know, if you've had a conversation with Danny and Nia and Jason's like, no. Like kind of like, why would I? Was his reaction, right?

Kelli (05:49.577)
Mmm. Yeah. Which is wild to me.

Wendy (05:53.213)
and

Me too, me too. And then Luke said, listen, I want to know like, where's your head at? Like he knows where Danny's head's at and he knows what he witnessed. He's like, you you called Danny a clown and a douche. And Jason said, well, I was in a position where I, you know, I felt that my wife's character was being attacked and she was being scapegoated and that really upset me. She was not being scapegoated.

Kelli (06:22.371)
She was not being scapegoated. I think his point is that, and I'm certainly not defending Janet in any way, but I do give Jason, I do give him props for being that husband who is taken up for his wife no matter what. But I think what he was saying was, Danny's the one who exhibited poor behavior, but Janet is now the villain and everybody hates her.

which is true, but that is because first of all, no matter how many times Danny apologized, she was not letting the mouse go as Sutton would say. And the essay comment, she should have ran that back immediately. It should never have been said. Once it was said, she should have apologized immediately. And she didn't. Even at the reunion, she didn't.

Wendy (07:18.51)
Right. Right. No, and that's really, that's what Luke said. Like, I don't understand the scapegoating thing. That's a hard thing to say. Because she wasn't there to witness what happened between Danny and Jasmine, and she wasn't involved in it. So if the two people that were involved in it have moved on from it, why are you making it a thing? Because that is what was happening.

Kelli (07:46.857)
even especially when Jasmine was like, that is not the right term to use for what happened.

Wendy (07:53.024)
Right. And she didn't want it talked about. She was very clear that she didn't want it talked about. So and

Kelli (07:59.608)
Yes. So she wasn't a scapegoat. She's, she's the villain because

Nope, you know, she made herself the villain. Even before last season, even first season, she made herself the villain. I mean, you came for Kristen Doty.

Wendy (08:10.104)
She did.

Wendy (08:14.518)
Right, right. then Jason, yeah. Jason said, my wife is not a liar. And in his confessional, he's like, you know, the dude got drunk and does stupid things. And, you know, I saw his actions last year and they're still the same. you know, he's a 40 year old man. No, I'm a 40 year old man. I shouldn't be calling him names. No, you shouldn't. But your wife shouldn't be sticking her nose in someone else's business. And that's where the problem lies.

So that's where the conversation should have been. And even if it was behind closed doors with a camera on so we could have seen it, she's quite honest with you, right? Right? Like, okay, stick up for your wife out in public. I get that, you know? But Janet is not, Janet doesn't think she did anything wrong based on the conversation that she had with Nia at the last party. Like she expected Nia to apologize. What did Nia do?

Kelli (08:49.571)
Right.

Kelli (09:09.196)
That was craziness that she was waiting for Nia to say something to her

Wendy (09:12.141)
Hey!

Yeah.

Kelli (09:16.855)
I mean, talk about a narcissist.

Wendy (09:19.266)
Yeah!

Kelli (09:20.823)
He, Jason said, I'm open to talking to Danny, but I'm not gonna apologize for certain things. Well then that, unless you're gonna apologize, well don't even know what Jason needs to apologize for. Janet needs to apologize for what she did. And until that, and I think Nia said that, like until she apologizes for using that term, it doesn't matter, nothing matters.

Wendy (09:34.2)
Cheese? Cheese?

Wendy (09:44.93)
Jason needs to apologize for the way that he spoke to Cause it wasn't, yeah, yeah, there was no reason for that. There was no reason for that. And like, well, I'm kind of jumping ahead because when Luke goes to Danny at Danny's party and, you know, says that Jason's, you know, wants to meet with you, I'm like, that's really kind of not what happened, but all right, if that's how you're going to get him there, that's how you're going to get him there.

Kelli (09:48.492)
at the reunion.

Yeah. No.

Kelli (10:12.299)
Yeah, it was very misleading.

Wendy (10:12.502)
It was very misleading. It was very misleading.

But Danny said, listen, he had plenty of time to apologize to me. And he's right. He's absolutely right. I mean, we do see in the upcoming attractions that they do sit down together. But Danny didn't say yes. He's like, you know, if he did to you what he did to me, I would not be friends with him.

Kelli (10:24.087)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (10:34.893)
Right, you wouldn't be my friend. And I believe Danny, I believe Danny. I mean, listen, first of all, look at who was leading the pack last year on the take Danny Bookow down for being an alcoholic, Jax Taylor. I mean, that was a joke in itself.

Wendy (10:51.0)
Jacks. Yeah. Yeah.

Right, and I don't know why Jason felt the need to align himself with Jax.

Kelli (10:59.127)
That's the problem. That's what he did. That's exactly what he did. And so did Janet. When they're FaceTiming him when he was supposed to be in rehab, get the hell out of here.

Wendy (11:11.95)
And even Jason is saying it.

Kelli (11:12.801)
We did not see Janet one time this episode.

Wendy (11:16.406)
You, I cannot believe that and I did not even realize that but you're right, we didn't see her.

Kelli (11:20.547)
She wasn't invited to Girls Night because that was a Kristen event and she wasn't invited to Santa Clarita because that was a Nia event. Amazing episode. Two thumbs up.

Wendy (11:32.704)
And I wonder how she's going to survive in this group if they're doing all these events without her.

Kelli (11:39.735)
Yep. I'm sure Lala and Michelle and you know, they'll, you know, and Brittany, they'll figure it out. But as long as Nia and Kristen are throwing the parties, Janet's not gonna be there.

Wendy (11:56.6)
And I'm fine with that.

Kelli (11:58.404)
I'm so fine but-

Wendy (12:00.504)
I just, I don't know. Do you think she's gonna finally apologize? Do you think we're ever gonna, do you think we're gonna see her apologize this season?

Kelli (12:08.597)
No, I really don't know what her future is on this show. can't see her apologizing because she, those three, not so much Brittany. Michelle and Lala defend her. Lala rides hard for Janet and I still can't understand why.

Wendy (12:09.676)
You don't think so?

Wendy (12:27.104)
I don't understand why either. I don't understand why either.

Kelli (12:33.229)
Did you see an interview? It was Lala with Britney and somebody said, what do you think about Sheena Shay saying that Lisa Vanderpump tried to get you to hook up with Tom Sandoval in some season of VPR? And Lala said, I don't wish to speak about her at all, about Sheena. And they asked her a follow-up question. She was like, I'm not talking about that girl.

Wendy (12:54.329)
I could believe that. I believe that.

Kelli (13:02.593)
Yeah, it was real interesting.

Wendy (13:07.426)
I don't know. Listen, I feel like if she doesn't apologize at some point during this season, there is no moving forward with her. Seriously, I mean, just because you're friends with Lala and Michelle, that's not enough. That's not enough.

Kelli (13:19.403)
It's not enough. No, it's not enough. So far, Kristen and Nia are spearheading this, I don't know if that's an appropriate term to use anymore, so I apologize if it's not. They're leading, it's probably not, so I apologize. They're leading this season heavily.

Wendy (13:22.636)
I mean, what does she bring to the table?

Wendy (13:32.174)
Probably not.

Wendy (13:39.522)
Yeah, yeah. Honestly, and I wouldn't miss her because I don't, I don't really, I never liked her. I never liked her. There was really nothing about her that I liked and I don't know what she brings to the table. Like what does she bring to the table?

Kelli (13:53.312)
Even before she brings nothing, even before we knew she was a super fan and stalked Sheena until she became her friend, even before we knew all that, she was not likable. She wasn't likable. Jason was, but now he's becoming unlikable because he's married to her. And I don't blame him for defending his wife because when the show's over, you still want your marriage intact, but.

Wendy (14:05.165)
Yeah.

Jason was.

Wendy (14:21.407)
definitely. Definitely.

Kelli (14:23.317)
I think, I don't think she's, I don't know why they brought her back. Cause you're right, she brings nothing to the table. She wasn't even on this episode and it was highly enjoyable.

Wendy (14:27.352)
Yeah, this.

Wendy (14:32.534)
Yeah. So we're watching the ladies get ready for their Y2K night and they have glam over there and Nia's excited. This is another thing I love about it. She's excited to go out, but she's exclusively breastfeeding. So she hires a party bus and she's going to bring her baby and her mom along, because her baby's three months old, so that she can still go out and have fun with the girls. And if the baby needs her, she can go out.

and breastfeed. I'm like, this is a girl who comes up with solutions. She doesn't make excuses.

Kelli (15:07.425)
And how awesome, no, and how awesome is her mom? Like, yeah, I'm just gonna chill in the bus and I will call you when the baby's hungry.

Wendy (15:13.312)
Yep. Yep. And you know what? I would do the same thing for my daughter. You would too. Right? We all would. You'd like, yep, I'm coming. Yep. You don't even need that. You use your phone.

Kelli (15:19.395)
Absolutely, Yep. Give me a TV screen and I'm good. Yep.

Kelli (15:28.897)
Right. Showing my edge.

Wendy (15:32.846)
I love that. I love that she came up with that solution. I love that she was still able to go out, that she, you know, still was able to include, be included. And yeah, I was here for it.

Kelli (15:45.773)
serious commitment.

Wendy (15:47.638)
Yeah.

Then they're talking about how before they had kids, how they would go out and they would dress like that. And Nia's like, yeah, I would show up with my hair in a ponytail and in a romper. And she's like, now I need this whole big glam thing to get ready. I mean, they didn't need it, but it's fun to do it.

Kelli (16:07.105)
Yeah, for sure.

Wendy (16:10.124)
I love that Zach and Benji were on the party bus, you know, waiting for them and Jasmine was on the party bus also. I love that Zach and Benji hang out with them, you know, because they, like Zach doesn't, I mean, he does bond with Jesse, not with Jason. He's okay with Schwartz too. Who else is there?

Kelli (16:21.377)
Yes, I do too.

Kelli (16:35.159)
It was go with Danny last week when they went for the vasectomy. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (16:38.304)
Yes, exactly. yep. Lala shows up a little bit later at the Y2K party and she's wearing the same kind of pink fuzzy hat as Brittany's wearing.

I thought it was funny.

Kelli (16:54.499)
That's what made me think of Clueless because Dion, Dion wore that hat, yeah.

Wendy (16:56.876)
The hats. Yeah, yeah. Jasmine asks Michelle if her and Jessie are good. And she's like, yeah, yeah, we're good, you know, at this moment. And Melissa's like, you know, Melissa's Jasmine's fiance. She's like, I understand what you're going through, 1 million percent. I didn't understand what that was about.

Kelli (17:20.939)
I didn't either. Unless she has had a prior relationship that we just don't know about. Maybe she went into more detail and they just edited it out.

Wendy (17:22.476)
Like why would Michelle understand an ex that was

Wendy (17:32.022)
Yeah. Because I was wondering, like, what is that about that she knows exactly, like she knows, like she gets it. I'm like, that's interesting.

Kelli (17:33.368)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:40.225)
Yeah, she probably said more and we just didn't say it.

Wendy (17:45.292)
And Michelle's like, well, you know, if we weren't all a part of the same group, you know, it wouldn't be such a big deal. And Jasmine's like, yeah, I could say that about a lot of people in this group. she's like, you know, like, Lala, love her, but honestly, like outside of this group, I don't think, you know, we'd be hanging out. Actually, I know that for a fact, she said, we wouldn't be hanging out. And yeah.

Kelli (18:05.507)
So here's my take on Jasmine. Jasmine's just gonna insert herself into anything to get some airtime. I'm convinced. Because that was a very silly thing to say when you literally just had dinner with her and she invited you to her daughter's first birthday party. Like maybe you do think that's just for the show, but how did you think saying this wasn't gonna cause an issue at some point? Because you seemed very surprised.

Wendy (18:23.394)
Yeah, I thought so too.

Kelli (18:36.983)
that Michelle went right back and told Lala, what did you think was gonna happen? You wanted that to happen because it keeps you on the camera long.

That's my take on Jasmine.

Wendy (18:47.916)
Yeah, it's true. I mean, I think you're right because, know, Michelle, you could see the look on her face. She's like, I'm going to go get a drink. And, know, she did go over and tell Lala. And of course, Lala being Lala is going to, you know, call her out on it.

Kelli (19:01.952)
address it right away.

Wendy (19:04.063)
Which is what it, which is what should happen. That's actually one of the reasons I do like La La.

Kelli (19:06.785)
Right, Lala's been doing reality TV a lot longer than any of the rest of them. She knows how this works. Plus, I really believe that Lala's just the type of person where it's like, if you have something to say about me, say it to my face.

Wendy (19:13.644)
Yeah.

Wendy (19:20.11)
Right. She is a no bullshit kind of person. She's, know, she is. And she does self-reflect too. She, you know, she'll look back at things that she's done and said in the past and be like, yeah, no, was, I was not, I was not right. I was not good. It was not good what I did, which I like. I like someone who can admit, admit that they were wrong. Even if it is years later, it doesn't matter. It's still like you reflect.

Kelli (19:28.855)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (19:49.858)
But listen, now Lala's on notice and now she sees Jasmine for who she is. So she's probably not gonna get vulnerable with her. She's not gonna open up to her, which is okay.

Kelli (20:05.539)
So Michelle does go tell Lala.

Kelli (20:10.191)
and Lala does confront Jasmine. And then Jasmine gets upset with Michelle for doing that and they start going back and forth and Jasmine is telling Michelle to calm down. Jasmine's the one that was getting all excited. One thing you could say about Michelle, she doesn't pop off. I don't even think her, like she's so monotone.

Wendy (20:28.131)
Yep.

Wendy (20:35.223)
No sh-

Kelli (20:38.913)
I don't even think her voice gets higher unless it has something to do with Jesse. But telling Michelle to calm down in that moment made no sense because Michelle was Michelle and did not need to calm down. If she calmed down anymore, she would be asleep.

Wendy (20:50.317)
Yeah.

Wendy (20:56.386)
I actually think what upset Jasmine so much is the way Michelle was speaking to her so calmly. cause Jasmine's like, I'm not your child, don't talk to me like that. And I'm thinking, that's just how she is. Like you may see it that way, but that's just who Michelle is.

Kelli (21:02.677)
I think that's what it was, yes.

Kelli (21:11.66)
Right.

Kelli (21:16.355)
She just speaks very slowly and she enunciates. She does talk like that, but I think she talks like that no matter who she's talking to. It's just the way she talks. Yeah.

Wendy (21:20.888)
Right.

Wendy (21:29.73)
No, I do too. I do too. But Jasmine was the one who was, you know, emotional and she's like, I'm allowed to be emotional. Okay. Be emotional. Right. No one's stopping you.

Kelli (21:39.437)
Alright, but she's not. Right!

Wendy (21:48.91)
But Lala says, listen, you know what? Noted, I am guarded. you know, now I know who's allowed in my bubble. Although she says that and then we'll see what happens after her car ride, because then she gets another reality check after her car ride to the Santa Clarita.

Kelli (22:08.407)
Yeah, that was.

Wendy (22:11.662)
Nia goes out to check on her baby. She felt it. She's like, I, you know, I could tell by my boobs, like baby's, you know, time to, time to feed the baby. I didn't mention this. When they all got off the bus and they walked into the club and there was nobody there. And it was eight, eight PM. I know. thought that was hysterical.

Kelli (22:28.503)
Nobody there. They're like, are they even open?

Kelli (22:35.523)
Well, it said they got there at eight o'clock and on the after show, think Nia said they were out of there by 10. So they were there for two hours. And I'm sure, I mean, even clubs around here don't start going off until 11. So I'm sure in LA or wherever they were, it's probably even later. And wait, so Michelle went out with Zach and Benji, right?

Wendy (22:38.498)
Right.

Wendy (22:44.984)
Wendy (22:58.466)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:03.756)
Yes, and she was out to like 130. Yeah.

Kelli (23:04.801)
That's awesome. I don't know if Lala was with them too. Maybe. No, it was just the three of them. That was great.

Wendy (23:09.292)
I don't think so. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I thought that was great too.

Wendy (23:22.478)
Oh, so then Nia was also talking about, you know, in her confessional about how they've tried to get Adélie to take the bottle, even with like the breast milk in it, and she won't take the bottle. And she feels a lot of pressure, like that's a lot of pressure to be.

Kelli (23:39.822)
That's a lot of pressure at three months old, even if you have only strictly breastfed up until this point. At three months, I feel like that's like a turning point where you should hopefully be able to get the baby on a bottle just to give you a little reprieve, especially when you have three other children to care for. But that's, you babies are, you don't know what's gonna happen.

Wendy (23:53.825)
Yes.

Wendy (24:01.57)
Yes.

Wendy (24:07.474)
I honestly at that moment, I really felt for her. I said to myself, she is really struggling. You could see she's struggling. She's got a lot on her plate. She said herself, she was overwhelmed. She was crying, but yet you know what? She still made it happen. She still got the bus. She still showed up. And part of me is happy that she did it like for herself. But then another part of me is like, should have just like taken those three hours to sleep. You know I mean?

Kelli (24:10.435)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (24:20.951)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:36.161)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (24:38.363)
I feel bad for her, I really feel bad for her.

Kelli (24:40.683)
I do too. I do too.

Which is even more, like, if Janet and Jason were ever their friends, like even more now, why are you still dying on this hill that Danny is this awful person? Like, listen, they're married. They've committed to each other. They're not leaving each other. So if she's your friend, she's struggling. Like, why are you still, I don't know. I can't imagine treating someone like that.

Wendy (24:44.63)
The next morning we see

Wendy (24:52.002)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (25:15.052)
No, I can't either. And you're right. You know, you're absolutely right. And it's none of her business. It's like none of her business, Janet.

Kelli (25:19.775)
I Right. Right.

Wendy (25:26.002)
The next morning we see Kristen and Luke is like, you hungover? And she's like, no, I'm not hungover. How can you be hungover with a baby? And he makes her this big plate of pancakes, serves her breakfast in bed. I was like, good for her. She went to In-N-Out the night after when she was done, out, which is perfect, right? I think that's what they do.

Kelli (25:38.562)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (25:50.113)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (25:54.2)
Then we see Brittany and Brandon going out for their date night. my, what did you think about this?

Kelli (26:01.421)
I think this guy wanted to be on TV. I really think this guy just wanted to be on TV. And I thought it when they were sitting there having this dinner, especially knowing that she just said no to being his girlfriend and he asked her again on camera. Like, bro, you know.

Wendy (26:09.656)
Yeah.

Wendy (26:17.836)
Yep.

Wendy (26:23.052)
I thought the same thing.

Kelli (26:23.469)
Pump the brakes. Yeah.

Wendy (26:26.498)
I thought the same thing. thought it was very interesting too that, you know, she said that this is the very first time she came there was with, after she got separated from Jax on January 24th and she came the next day for her birthday by herself. And he's like, I'm pretty sure I was separated on January 27th, but that was this year. And she's like, yeah, mine has been two years. So, you know, you see he's moving fast.

Kelli (26:52.557)
Yeah.

Wendy (26:56.182)
And I also thought it was interesting that she did all the ordering. Like, that's not normal. I'm sorry, that's not normal, right? Right? He should've like... Yeah, I thought that was a little odd.

Kelli (27:01.655)
Yes, I did too.

Kelli (27:05.985)
Nah. Nah. Nope.

And then when he said that his ex makes things difficult when they were both talking about their separations, I thought, why are you saying that on TV? Like nobody, first of all, nobody cares about you yet. Let's see what happens, but why would you say anything negative about the mother of your child or children? I don't know which, which, you know, mother this, this that he's talking about, but why would you say that on TV?

Wendy (27:23.768)
Yeah.

Wendy (27:37.08)
Right.

Kelli (27:41.887)
about someone who isn't on the show and hasn't agreed to be on the show, you know, it's, I thought that was very telling as well, messy.

Wendy (27:47.702)
Right, right. It's messy. Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (27:54.99)
And then he's like, Zach's gonna love me. Slow your roll, Brandon.

Wendy (28:03.116)
Yeah, exactly. So it's the day of the party and I thought the party was cowboy themed, but it is actually new frontier because as Nia said, they live in the middle of nowhere. And Danny wants everyone to see his mountain. Everyone needs to see his mountain.

Kelli (28:17.057)
Right. Right.

Kelli (28:24.515)
You

Wendy (28:26.626)
But Danny staying in cowboy character the whole time when Nia is trying to have a serious conversation. I swear to God, if I was her, I probably would have just punched him. Like, just stop.

Kelli (28:30.294)
my God.

Kelli (28:35.607)
Me too. can't, I can't take it. That would have annoyed the hell out of me. Eric does that, not that he goes into character, but he'll do that shit where I'm like, all right, enough. Like, we need to have a, exactly, we need to have a series coming.

Wendy (28:46.966)
Right, Joke's over.

Wendy (28:52.79)
I mean, not only is he still in character, but he has his teeth whitening strip on. And she calls him out.

Kelli (28:56.863)
my god. It was so funny when she pulled them out. So funny.

Wendy (29:06.222)
Then watching everyone get ready to go to Santa Clarita and their carpooling and the ETA to the party is 59 minutes and everyone has a different take on it. I mean, Schwartz's take was like, it's a journey, it's a trek, we're going on a road trip. I'm like, it's an hour away.

Kelli (29:17.971)
my god.

Kelli (29:23.531)
He's got the neck pillow, which I don't blame him for the neck pillow. I don't know if he needed a whole cooler full of beverages to get him through. But on the after show, somebody said it was four hours. I think it was Jesse. Danny's like, it wasn't four hours.

Wendy (29:26.894)
Yeah.

Wendy (29:39.758)
I wonder how long it actually was. But you did see the traffic. mean, the traffic was insane.

Kelli (29:41.803)
I think somebody said an hour and a half. Yeah. I think someone said an hour and a half.

Kelli (29:50.189)
but it is, it's a lot.

Wendy (29:50.19)
Which is a lot.

Wendy (29:53.966)
Because honestly, it's probably only 30 miles away. It's probably only 30 miles away.

Kelli (30:00.364)
Yeah, it's probably like getting from Edison to LBI on a Friday afternoon in the summer, where it could take you an hour, but it's gonna probably take you two, because you're gonna be in bumper to bumper traffic. Or three, yeah, right.

Wendy (30:16.406)
Or three. Right. Yeah. So in the car, it's Brittany, Brandon, Michelle, and Schwartz, and Lala's driving. And she brings up what happened with Jasmine and how she's flip-flopping. Michelle starts telling the story, and Brandon is taking Jasmine's side immediately. And so weird.

Kelli (30:40.067)
Which is weird.

Wendy (30:45.622)
Why would he even open his mouth?

Kelli (30:49.024)
Exactly.

Wendy (30:50.542)
That was just a little odd. And then while they're driving, they don't even know where they are. Are we in LA? Are we in Ventura County? They're like, we don't even know where we're at.

Wendy (31:04.79)
Jessie and Lacey are the first ones to arrive at the party. Schwartz, in true Schwartz style, shows up with a large houseplant and a pumpkin. I mean, I didn't get the pumpkin, but okay.

Kelli (31:10.103)
Yes they were.

Kelli (31:19.981)
Maybe it was October.

Wendy (31:22.026)
Maybe, maybe it was pumpkin season, I don't know.

Kelli (31:26.307)
Lala did say in that car ride though, Jasmine will be cool to your face and then talk about you behind your back. That is what she said.

Kelli (31:39.127)
That is what she said.

Wendy (31:41.474)
That's what she said. And that's what she got based on what happened.

Kelli (31:48.161)
Right, exactly. She's speaking from experience. From the other night.

Wendy (31:50.658)
I mean, right. It's not like she's, right. This is exactly what happened to her, right? I do think it was funny when Kristen and her confessional said, I honestly don't even think they can get Amazon deliveries here. Like, I think they can get Amazon. And Zach said, even if it was a 14 bedroom mansion with man service, a pool and a gay club, he wouldn't live there. But on the after show, everyone said that he definitely would.

Kelli (32:16.28)
Yeah.

Yes, everyone call bullshit on that. For sure.

Wendy (32:20.366)
you

Wendy (32:25.806)
Then Brittany immediately introduces Brandon to Zach and they immediately do a shot, which I thought was a little odd. Whose idea was that to do the shot? it Brittany's idea?

Kelli (32:34.335)
She was like, I think Brandon rolled up, but he walked up with the shot.

Wendy (32:39.625)
Brandon. Okay.

Kelli (32:42.231)
And then did you notice that like Zach and Brandon were talking and Luke just completely walked up and inserted himself in their conversation?

Wendy (32:52.031)
No, I didn't even notice that.

Kelli (32:53.471)
he totally walked up and just stood there. I'm like, he didn't say anything. He just wanted to be on camera too.

Wendy (32:58.476)
But he didn't say anything, right? Did he say anything? Okay. that's funny. That's funny. Yeah, because after they do the shot, Brittany's like, okay, you guys can have your talk. I'm gonna go get something to eat. And Brandon's like, now? Like, we have to do it now?

Kelli (33:05.73)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:14.988)
Yeah.

Yeah, and that's when Luke walked up and then Brandon drops that Britney's his girlfriend. And Zach was like, er, skrr, what?

Wendy (33:18.689)
Wendy (33:26.05)
Yep. Yep. And Zach and his confessional said, one of Britney's biggest weaknesses is she's very susceptible to being loved bombed by men. She opens up to anyone and I want her to stop opening her heart and start opening her legs because it's a lot more fun that way. I was like, Zach, you know what? That is spoken like a gay best friend. I think you might have something there, right? That's what you need.

Kelli (33:45.506)
Ha ha!

Kelli (33:50.82)
That's right. Yes, yes. Did you see on the after show where she was like, but I, you know, I haven't dated that much. I had a high school boyfriend that went into college. We broke up. started dating somebody else. Then we broke up. started dating somebody else that we broke up. And then I started dating Jacks. I was like, my God.

Wendy (33:56.216)
Stop getting your heart broken.

Wendy (34:07.438)
Thank you.

Wendy (34:12.994)
Like you've never been single. Right.

Kelli (34:14.519)
You've never been single! Yeah.

Wendy (34:21.142)
I hope she just is happy being single.

Kelli (34:21.611)
I was single for four years between my ex-fiance and Eric and it was glorious, glorious.

Wendy (34:28.236)
Yes, it's good to be single and be happy with yourself.

Kelli (34:30.173)
Ugh. I highly recommend.

Wendy (34:33.774)
Yeah, I do too. I do too. Then we see Luke tells Danny that he talked to Jason and he goes into the whole thing about, know, that Luke said, you know, there's some things he'd like to apologize to you for. And I'm like, I don't think he said that, but all right. And that's when Danny's like, you know what? I didn't hear from him. I'm gonna have to think about it. And he doesn't give him an answer.

Kelli (34:50.029)
did not say that.

Wendy (35:06.678)
And Danny said, I thought this was good. He said, you know, for me, I had to already, I already forgave him. Like I had to forgive him because that's who I am. can't like hold this. said, but you know, the pain's still there. Like this is someone I considered a friend. Like I don't have brothers. Like when I bring you into my life, like you're like a brother to me and I have this great family here. I am truly blessed. I don't need the negativity in my life. And I think there's a lot of truth in that. I do.

Kelli (35:34.199)
I do too. I do too.

Wendy (35:36.918)
You have to protect your joy.

Wendy (35:42.018)
Then we see outside Brandon is talking to Jasmine and Lacey about the conversation in the car. What?

Kelli (35:50.968)
Why?

Wendy (35:52.524)
Why? Why?

I just honestly I was like what is going on?

Kelli (36:01.07)
Yeah, he just, he's a clout chaser, this guy. He's definitely a clout chaser.

Wendy (36:06.306)
Yep.

Wendy (36:10.08)
So I wrote, Brandon is sticking his nose in the middle of this. It doesn't belong there. He's also pointing out that Michelle and Jesse are over there talking and that he's there with Lacey and Jesse's, who's Jesse's current girlfriend, right? So he's pointing this whole thing out. And Lacey even at one point is like, you know what? I'm trying to play nice with like, you know, I'm on a healing journey right now with Michelle. So I don't really want to be a part of this. And

Kelli (36:30.627)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (36:36.746)
I thought she was gonna walk away, but then Jasmine says, you know what, let's just drop this. Which was, mean, I think she should have walked away anyway because she didn't need to be a part of this. This wasn't gonna help anybody.

Kelli (36:49.655)
Nope. Nope.

Wendy (36:51.374)
And Brandon says, know what, just have to, Jasmine says, thanks for telling me, because I know Brittany would have said like, everything's okay, which is true, that's what Brittany would say. And she immediately goes inside and says to Brittany and Michelle, Brandon just said this, and Brittany's like, wait, what? Who said this?

Kelli (37:13.325)
Yeah, yeah He said Jasmine said Brandon said Michelle said I'm fake

Wendy (37:23.17)
you

Kelli (37:23.287)
That's not what was said. And Michelle didn't even say it. It was Lala. And Lala said, she'll be nice to your face and talk behind your back. I mean, I don't know if you classify that as fake. I don't classify that as fake. I classify that as like two-faced.

Wendy (37:41.133)
Right.

Kelli (37:45.815)
But Brandon's a rat.

Wendy (37:46.67)
So then Brittany brings Brandon. Brittany brings Brandon back over and he said, well, I just said that I met Jasmine and she's very nice. And Jasmine said, you had my back in the car. He said, well, why would I, why would I, she said, why would you have to have my back? And Michelle said, well, I feel like you're attacking me, Jasmine. And, and Brandon said, well, you were saying some stuff in the car. He's like doubling down on it. And then Zach jumps in. I was glad that Zach jumped in and said, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no.

Kelli (38:09.41)
Yes.

Wendy (38:14.696)
I think he did. Jasmine is getting really heated. And honestly, Zach is the only one that can call Jasmine out. Not that she even takes it from him, but she takes it from him better than she takes it from anybody else. And I don't know why that is.

Kelli (38:22.273)
Yes, I agree with that.

Kelli (38:26.775)
Yes, yes. She's a very emotional person and I am the same way, so I understand. But why are you listening to this guy who just got here?

Wendy (38:42.455)
Yes.

Kelli (38:43.659)
Like, I would get emotional, but I think I would hope that I would like ask Michelle and Lala first, like what was said on the car ride? Cause this knucklehead who just got here is saying this.

Wendy (38:54.166)
Right. Right.

And yeah, Zach said in his confessionals, sometimes Jasmine doesn't understand maybe what's like fully being said and she'll take something and run with it, which is pretty much what happened. But it was because Brandon presented it that way. And again, why is she believing this guy? Right, why are you believing this guy you just met?

Kelli (39:09.656)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:13.155)
For sure. This guy, this was a huge red flag. That's what I mean, like what? Yeah, right.

Wendy (39:24.268)
And then Zach calls over Lala and is like, help me tell like what happened in the car. And Lala's like, listen, I brought it up. And this is another thing I've always liked. She owns what her part in it was. She's not gonna lie about it. She's not gonna lie about it.

Kelli (39:24.451)
Right.

Wendy (39:46.392)
Jasmine said, you haven't been close in a while, so you and I were keeping an eye on each other. And she's referring to Michelle at this point.

Kelli (39:54.883)
I thought it was La La.

Wendy (39:57.89)
I mean, it could have been Lala because that's, mean, they just had that other conversation, but I didn't know if it was Lala or Michelle at that point. I don't even know.

Kelli (40:08.555)
I listen, I think that Michelle's cautious with anybody who's close with Jesse, and I think that Jasmine had been closer with Jesse.

You know, I don't know, they're both in real estate, I don't know. I don't think Michelle is the easiest nut to crack. Like, I think Jasmine's fun and probably great to hang out with, like go out with and have fun with, and that's what Jesse likes to do. I don't think Michelle, you know, I just feel like Michelle's a little stiff, she's very reserved, she's very closed off. So.

Wendy (40:43.788)
Yeah, I agree with you. I agree. I agree.

Kelli (40:46.731)
I think Jasmine got closer with Jesse when they separated and maybe that maybe Michelle feels a certain way about it.

Wendy (40:53.976)
Yeah, I do think it's interesting because then Melissa came over to Jasmine and it's like, know, just like let it go. feel like Melissa is a calming factor, which is good because that's what she needs. Like, Jasmine needs someone who's just gonna like, you know, that she's gonna listen to and she's just gonna kind of, you know, diffuse the situation instead of ramping it up.

Kelli (41:03.585)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (41:09.283)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (41:18.198)
So I mean, I'm curious to see what happens, because we do see that next week they do go out to the cigar place. It doesn't look like it's going well, but.

I would like.

Kelli (41:27.939)
This guy Brandon though, really hope we don't see any more of him. Right.

Wendy (41:31.436)
Well, he's gone. I mean, he's gone in real life already. I don't know how much more we're gonna see him on the show, but something tells me not much more because I think that this was enough for Britney to be like, these are my friends. Like, I just went through this with Jax. I'm not doing this again. I would hope.

Kelli (41:50.339)
Hope too, my God.

Wendy (41:52.6)
Right.

Kelli (41:53.507)
Can we just talk about Summer House real quick?

Wendy (41:56.15)
Yeah, love Summer House.

Kelli (41:57.516)
I just totally got caught up. You told me to watch it. I didn't want to watch it because I really can't stomach Kyle Cook. I really can't stomach Kyle Cook. But I watched it and it is a good season. And here are my thoughts. Kyle Cook, I don't feel bad for you at all. I think you knew exactly what was going on. I think that, you know, this marriage has been over. They were hanging on for this show. Now they have a new show coming out.

Wendy (42:00.358)
you did?

Kelli (42:26.593)
and they both are on the new show, Kyle and Amanda. And I think Kyle knew everything. So I don't feel bad for him at all. Ciara, my heart breaks for her. Dara, I cannot get over the fact that this girl has a confessional. Why does this girl who was brought on as someone who dated West,

Wendy (42:29.24)
Yes, they are. Yes, they are.

Kelli (42:53.739)
and is now dating KJ, why is she getting a confessional? And her too, like this Brandon on the valley, inserting herself in things where she shouldn't be.

Do you think like she was supposed to be like a house member or something and then something got changed and I don't know. I feel like one of the producers must be very fond of her for giving her all this attention.

Wendy (43:16.736)
I she was supposed to be.

Wendy (43:25.108)
I think this is my guess as to what happened. I think that after her and KJ hit it off and they started seriously seeing each other and she started coming to the house and she vibed with the other people in the house because she already had a connection with West because she knew him from before. I think that they probably so that the confessionals are things that happen after the show is done. So I think that as even even

Kelli (43:44.897)
Right.

Wendy (43:55.436)
the editing, a lot of the editing is done after. So I think what the producers saw is like, this is somebody we can maybe use going forward. So let's give her a confessional and let's see how it plays out. That's my thought.

Kelli (44:06.305)
Okay, my concern is KJ because I love him. I love the KJ, Mia, Sierra dynamic. The fact that I swear, I love Mia and I swear, I feel like crying after the, cause I just, you know, I'm all caught up. Hearing Sierra say what she said, like about getting flack for dating a white man and getting.

Wendy (44:12.604)
I do too.

Wendy (44:19.756)
I do too. I love Mia. Don't you love Mia?

I love her.

Kelli (44:35.779)
played on television by a white male. For that bitch Amanda to do to her what she did, you are a disgusting person, Amanda. There's no other way to put it. You're just disgusting. Like how dare you? How dare you do that to someone who called you a friend? Not only called you a friend, stuck up for you with your husband over and over and over and over again. Somebody who has been a douchebag on TV, by the way, this is why Loverboy will never be successful.

Wendy (44:36.097)
Yes.

Kelli (45:05.121)
because Kyle Cook is the only one pushing it and Kyle Cook is a douchebag. Nobody's gonna buy your lover boy, they hate you. Amanda stayed with him to be on TV, I've been saying that for years. Who would stay in this marriage that he's publicly disrespecting you over and over again on national television? You'd have to be a moron and I don't think you are.

Wendy (45:29.912)
But who goes from Kyle to West, from one douche to another? Maybe she is a moron. Maybe she is a moron.

Kelli (45:35.476)
Exactly. Well said. Actually, she must be. She must be. But for her to do, like, I just, I can't believe. Listen, you wanna screw around on Kyle? Have at it, cause, you know, cause he's Kyle. But West, first of all, ugh.

And second of all, know, like you saw this play out, like you know what he did to your friend. And she still has feelings for him. She's so very clearly still had feelings for him.

Wendy (46:12.182)
Yeah, it blows my mind. It does. It blows my mind. It blows my mind. And honestly, I've seen a lot online. I cannot wait for the reunion. Supposedly, Hubbard, that's what they call it, is going in hard for West. But I don't know how the spin-off is gonna go. Like, how is the spin-off gonna go? Because Kyle's gonna be there.

Kelli (46:12.349)
Ugh, I'm disgusted.

Wendy (46:42.144)
Amanda's gonna be there. I mean, Sierra makes some, but I have interest in the other people that are on it. I do, I'm gonna watch it.

Kelli (46:45.367)
I really don't have any interest in it.

Kelli (46:52.051)
I'll be honest, this will floor you because of how I felt in the past. I'm actually very interested in seeing Lindsay. I really am. But I don't want to see Kyle. Now I don't want to see Amanda. I really don't want to see Danielle. Like, whose idea was it to bring her back?

Wendy (47:01.686)
No, I think Lindsay's... yeah.

Wendy (47:08.482)
Yeah, Danielle's in it. And probably Lindsay's. But I think Danielle is now dating a married man. And she's going to be doing it publicly on this show.

Kelli (47:19.011)
Awesome. Awesome.

Wendy (47:20.428)
Yeah, yeah. But Lindsay is talk about like, talk about like a character arc. Like she went from, especially for you, she went from here. I mean, now her T-Mobile ads. I mean, she's like on, she's here. Like she's here now.

Kelli (47:23.053)
Wow.

Kelli (47:38.691)
She is, and you know what? I think that she obviously has a lot of...

Kelli (47:49.336)
baggage because of the relationship she never had with her mother. She didn't talk to her mother. She never had a mother. She had a stepmom who she was close with, thank God, but that's your mom and no matter whose choice it was, you didn't have a relationship with her. So her becoming a mom, you know she's gonna be the best mom in the world.

Wendy (47:54.594)
Yeah, right, right.

Wendy (48:11.778)
Yes.

Kelli (48:13.357)
She's going to be. So this is like, now nothing else matters. She doesn't need a man. She doesn't, you know, she's financially set. She's, look at that apartment.

Wendy (48:15.053)
Yes.

Wendy (48:22.786)
She doesn't. The only, yeah. It's amazing. Apartment is amazing. The only thing I'm sad about is that Carl is not in the city. I'm sad because I really, well, because he was a little upset about it too. They said because, you know, he's not on the drinking journey, like he's on the sober journey, but he could have still been on it. And you know what? If there's a second season,

Kelli (48:29.326)
my gosh.

Kelli (48:34.445)
Yeah, why not?

Kelli (48:48.651)
Absolutely.

Wendy (48:50.432)
If there's a second season, I want Carl on it because I really think that Lindsay and Carl are gonna be very good friends. I think they're gonna be good friends.

Kelli (48:57.411)
And I mean, he lives in Brooklyn. It's not like, you know, it's not like he's in Jersey, even if he were, you know, like, I don't know. Yeah, like Amanda and Kyle get to be on it, but not Carl.

Wendy (49:02.071)
Yeah.

I know. Right, right.

Wendy (49:12.512)
I know. I know.

Kelli (49:15.009)
I'll give it a shot, but I'm not... I really can't stomach Kyle.

Wendy (49:17.91)
You know who else I'm not liking? But what about the whole thing with Ben and the girlfriend? I don't even, what's her name, Sabrina? Is that her name? I mean, come on. We all know that Ben and Sabrina were dating before the show started. He said, okay, let's put this on ice because they want me to come in single, got in the house. Like, okay, this isn't gonna fly. Let me bring Sabrina in two weeks before we end and just get her on camera.

Kelli (49:25.997)
Sabrina. Yeah.

Kelli (49:44.685)
Yep. Yep. cause they're on the city?

Wendy (49:47.948)
Let's just do that. No, I don't think they're on in the city, but I sure hope not. I sure the heck hope not.

Kelli (49:52.821)
okay. Okay.

Kelli (49:57.473)
No, it'll be interesting, right?

Wendy (49:59.628)
Yeah. So I, listen, I don't.

Kelli (50:03.189)
Yeah, I don't know about Ben either. Like the way he treated Bailey when she said he was in love with, or whatever she said about him. He did wanna screw Amanda. He did. They probably did. They probably did have sex.

Wendy (50:16.524)
He's right. That's right. Yeah. They did. I'm sure. I think they did because she said that he wanted to in Italy. And what was stopping her? Nothing.

Kelli (50:27.072)
Nothing. Because was Kyle even there? It was her best friend's wedding in Italy?

Wendy (50:32.404)
No, I think it was, wasn't it Andre's wedding? Kyle was there.

Kelli (50:36.307)
She said my best friend's wedding in Italy. maybe it was on.

Wendy (50:42.444)
Andrea, I think it was Andrea.

Kelli (50:42.595)
Maybe it was. She said my best friend's wedding.

Wendy (50:46.22)
I think it was Andrea. I could be wrong, but Kyle was definitely there. Kyle was in Italy with them, and Ben was there.

Kelli (50:54.477)
This is all very interesting. he's on it too, Andrea. He's on the city with his wife.

Wendy (50:59.467)
yes, yes he is.

Yes, so I think it was his wedding.

Kelli (51:07.053)
Well now I'm mad that Carl's not on it.

Wendy (51:10.424)
Well, I am too. And Carl was too, but I think he's over it.

Kelli (51:15.873)
Yeah, I mean, because they're not gonna do this and Summerhouse again, I would imagine. Right? Who knows? Who knows? But I firmly believe that this is why Loverboy is not successful, because nobody likes Kyle Cook.

Wendy (51:21.902)
I mean, let's hope not.

Wendy (51:28.024)
Did you see?

Wendy (51:38.818)
I'm sure that's a big part of it and I think the beverage is not that good.

Kelli (51:42.689)
I don't think it's good either. you had to take, you had to put $500,000 of your own money into cover payroll. How much are you paying people?

Wendy (51:51.308)
Yeah, what kind of payroll is it? That's a lot. Was that for payroll? Wait, I didn't think he said it was for payroll. He's,

Kelli (51:52.834)
Was that for a year or like, what do you? That's what he kept saying. Yes, he said it over and over again. 500 grand for payroll. How long did that get you? How much are you paying people?

Kelli (52:10.689)
I mean, I would hope that is that a year salary. I don't think Loverboy is a very big operation. How many employees? I'm sure he has less than 10 employees.

Wendy (52:21.08)
Yeah, I don't know. That's, yeah, that seems like a lot.

Kelli (52:22.593)
Although that's only 50 grand a year for, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I guess it's not that much, but.

Wendy (52:30.05)
I don't know.

I don't know, but I do think that West and Amanda were hooking up before the season started. 100%.

Kelli (52:41.709)
So you think the season we're watching now, it was already going on.

Wendy (52:47.638)
I I think it started in June. And this started filming in July.

Kelli (52:49.591)
Do you, I, okay. I honestly watching it didn't get that impression, but if you're saying that, then I'm sure there's something to it. Did you see the pictures? So funny of Kyle kissing Megan King Edmonds.

Wendy (53:06.793)
No! Where was that?

Kelli (53:09.535)
yeah, like in the city it's confirmed. Supposedly he confirmed that he's dating her. But it's just so funny because he's so fucking short and she's tall. There are pictures of him kissing her.

Wendy (53:21.07)
Kyle is dating Megan King Edmonds. mean, shh, listen, I love Megan, but she's a train wreck.

Kelli (53:26.423)
Yes.

Kelli (53:30.571)
Trainwreck. Trainwreck. And not that her ex-husband isn't, because I think he's horrible person. Yep.

Wendy (53:33.636)
my gosh, this is crazy. No, he is too. No, I think he's a douche. She's going from one douche to another too. What is wrong with these women? Seriously.

Kelli (53:43.315)
Exactly. What are these women thinking? I don't understand. I mean, we all went through our douche phase, but eventually you grow out of it and then you find a nice guy to settle down with.

Wendy (53:56.44)
That is crazy.

Kelli (53:58.455)
Yes. But they have the funniest shit on Instagram right now because he's so short and she's tall.

Kelli (54:08.887)
Like of him like looking up at her like, your neck hurt? Kyle? Well, he's not tall. You ever see him? No, we ever see him standing next to Jesse and Carl?

Wendy (54:09.858)
is not short.

Wendy (54:16.046)
Who's... Kyle Isdorff?

Wendy (54:24.472)
Jesse and Carl are like 6'4".

Kelli (54:27.021)
I know, but he looks like a, you know. She's tall, Megan. She's tall. I think she was a model, right?

Wendy (54:31.606)
Okay. All right. I think she was a model. I didn't- my gosh. All right, I'm definitely gonna have to see them because that's hysterical.

Kelli (54:36.461)
Yeah, look at the pictures. They're pretty funny.

Kelli (54:42.915)
hysterical

Wendy (54:44.672)
hysterical. All right. All right, so that's all we have for now on the valley and a little summer house, you know, recap. Next we will be doing Atlanta and Rhode Island, which are airing tonight. This is Sunday night we're filming this and we'll get those out for you as soon as possible.

Kelli (54:49.506)
Yes.

Kelli (55:00.001)
Yeah.

Wendy (55:08.44)
Thank you for watching. Please like and subscribe. Bye.

Kelli (55:12.516)
Bye.