The Valley - Janet Bows Out, Luke Kneels Down

Wendy (00:01.302)
Welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy. We are talking about the Valley, season two, episode number 12. Will you, I know, it is a lot. Will you Maui me? All right, it's okay. It's corny, but it's okay.

Kelli (00:03.874)
I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:10.436)
12! That's a lot!

Kelli (00:17.666)
It is corny.

Wendy (00:22.254)
We start out with dinner and Luke and Kristen are running a little bit late to the dinner. Luke is kind of dealing with some emotions of his grandmother and her illness. So they show up a bit late to the dinner and Brittany is talking about her nanny Zulie is staying at the house while she's gone and Jax can go to the house while she's gone to go visit with Cruz, which I was glad to hear that.

Kelli (00:50.51)
So basically it's like a supervised visitation with the nanny.

Wendy (00:53.536)
Yes, yes, exactly, exactly. Yeah. I thought this was weird. So Jason's sitting next to Erin and he asked like, you know, how he's doing being on vacation with Jesse. And Erin and Michelle say like his behavior is not been any better towards them, you know. And Jason...

Kelli (00:56.771)
Good.

Kelli (01:11.684)
They're literally at the end of the table talking about Jesse who's on the other side of the table.

Wendy (01:14.73)
I know, other end of the table, right? Which is why I thought this is so weird, right? And Jason is supposed to be friends with Jesse. So I guess, you he's trying to make conversation. I don't know. I don't know. Aaron and Michelle are both saying that, you know, you don't see him, like he's still like acting out, but you don't see what he's doing. Like it's way worse than anybody else. Yeah, it looks good. Yeah, it looks good.

Kelli (01:18.787)
weird.

Kelli (01:37.912)
Yeah, because Jason was like, from what I see, things are cool. Which I think Jesse's very good at putting that facade on. Certainly when cameras are rolling.

Wendy (01:45.518)
100%. Yeah. I did also think it was interesting that when dinner was over, Jason announces that he's going to take care of the bill. I mean, they were on a cash trip. Why is anyone taking care of the bill?

Kelli (01:59.62)
I didn't even notice that.

Wendy (02:00.982)
Yeah, and I even played it back. was like, did I get that right? And I played it back. He absolutely said that. That's what I thought. That's exactly what I thought.

Kelli (02:07.716)
That's interesting.

Kelli (02:11.714)
I didn't watch the after show, did you? Maybe did that happen to come up?

Wendy (02:15.21)
I did not watch the after show, just didn't have time.

Kelli (02:17.09)
I didn't either. I started to and then I had to turn it off, I had to work.

Wendy (02:21.88)
So after he says that, Jesse asks Aaron to hold back here, because everyone's going to go back to Zach's, so they want to see the presidential suite. And you can see Michelle is like, well, I don't really want to leave him alone. And the other girls are like, well, what do we do? And she's kind of standing there. But she kind of gives them their moment. And Jesse sits down and says, I think it's time that you and I have a conversation. And listen, I think that they should have had a conversation. I don't know that this was the time to have it. But OK, mean, better late than never, right?

Kelli (02:50.178)
Right. Right.

Wendy (02:52.082)
then Jesse says, as a father of Isabella, something that, that you did really bothered me. And, you wouldn't know that because you're not a father. Okay. There's your first dig. There's your first day, right? coming back on father's day after, having my mother and my friends send me, screenshots of you and my daughter out on father's day. You know, that's disrespectful that you posted that picture of my daughter without even asking her father. I agree with him. I absolutely agree with him.

Kelli (03:01.476)
That was a dig. Yep. That's right. Right.

Kelli (03:20.45)
I do agree with him. I do. On Father's Day, on Father's Day. If it were any other day, okay. Yeah, I agree.

Wendy (03:21.804)
I do too. I do too.

Alan? Yes.

Yep, yeah. And he said, you know, that was a big slap in my face from Michelle. And Aaron said, yeah, you know, I wasn't even thinking of that. We were having such a good day. you know, then I put myself in your shoes and I said, that wasn't right. So I took it down. yeah, but like Jesse said in his confessional, like it doesn't even really matter. Like if...

Kelli (03:47.192)
Yeah, I mean, at least he acknowledged, right?

Wendy (03:55.038)
know, Aaron and I are in a good place and you know, he says that he's gonna, you know, ask my permission or, you know, run things by me. If Michelle's not on board with it, it's not gonna happen. He is totally right, but there's nothing he can do about that. It is what it is at this point, right? Then he asks, Aaron says, well, can you treat us with respect? And that's, didn't, he,

Kelli (04:05.698)
He's totally right.

Kelli (04:20.482)
Yeah, respect goes both ways.

Wendy (04:22.486)
Right, but then that's when he says, let me ask you a question. Did you or did you not cross the line with Michelle while I was married to her, whether it was physically or emotionally? And you're looking at Aaron and he's like, absolutely not. I was like, that's not the answer I really saw coming out of that. And I don't know if it's the way that they edit it or not.

Kelli (04:43.672)
I know, because he did go on to say that they text a few times. Like about what? What were you texting about? Because if it was about your honey, well, he did say it was about the honey, right?

Wendy (04:48.672)
Yes, he said that.

Well, yeah.

Well, he said that they, no, he said that we met up once for coffee. and then once I texted her when I was selling honey at Runyon, which is what he said, like that's what Jesse said. Like she was going to Runyon Canyon and that's where his honey was. So, right. And then in his confessional, saying, think, you know, I think this is total bullshit. Like he still, and I get it.

Kelli (05:10.38)
Yeah. And then the honey was in the cabinet.

Kelli (05:19.746)
And why are you meeting him for coffee? Like, I don't meet men for coffee.

I don't.

Wendy (05:27.148)
Right. No, I don't. I don't either. I don't either. That's very true.

Kelli (05:29.572)
Alright, you don't drink coffee, but if you had...

But I mean, you know, I wish Jesse would be like, well, why did you meet for coffee?

Wendy (05:44.771)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:47.608)
I mean, if you're doing business with somebody and you...

Wendy (05:47.82)
Yeah. That's a relationship. Right. That's a relationship. He said that, you he knew her, like he'd see her around. He'd always see her. That's what he kept saying. He'd always see her around. So then Jesse says, you know, she triggers me and she really has a way of getting under my skin, which she definitely does. I think just...

Kelli (06:05.86)
Yeah, but Heezer will actually admit to doing it to her too.

Wendy (06:09.248)
Yes. yeah. don't think honestly what I was going to say is I don't think she does it intentionally. I think just her mere existence triggers him. Do you know what I'm saying? I don't think she's doing it intentionally. Whereas he is doing it intentionally. He said he was.

Kelli (06:10.862)
So.

Kelli (06:24.686)
Totally, and I agree with you. I don't think she's doing it intentionally. I think it, again, goes back to what the other girl said on the after show that time. He just can't believe he lost her. But yet, the whole time he was with her, he wasn't, you know, right. Right.

Wendy (06:34.67)
Mm-hmm.

He wasn't present, right? He wasn't doing what you needed to do.

Wendy (06:44.856)
So then we see Nia and Danny, going to be going fishing with Luke and Kristen, which we know that that's going to happen. They're kind of... my God, that was disgusting.

Kelli (06:52.984)
Did you see the spray tan in that bet?

I get spray tans a lot. That has never happened to me. Did she go home after the dinner and get a spray tan and then immediately lay in the bed? I go for a spray tan in the morning or at night, even if I go for a spray tan at night, if I wait like two hours, that was wild. That spray tan was wild.

Wendy (07:08.308)
I don't know because

Wendy (07:18.56)
I thought that was wild too. the other thing I thought that was wild, she didn't even look to me like she was tan.

I mean, unless I missed it, I mean, I've never had a spray tan. I've never done it. I've never done a spray tan. So I would not know. But to me, when I looked at her, was like, she doesn't even look to me to be tan.

Kelli (07:30.444)
Yeah!

Kelli (07:34.912)
It was probably the lighting, because if you have like ring lights on you, you're gonna look lighter.

Wendy (07:40.522)
Okay. that could be. Okay.

Kelli (07:42.36)
Yeah. So she probably was tan, but because of all the lighting from the camera crew, you couldn't tell.

Wendy (07:45.463)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:48.994)
She didn't, yeah.

Yeah, that was wild. So the girls are at the pool. Danny and, let's see.

Wendy (08:02.282)
Nia, Danny, and Kristen and Luke weren't at the pool, right? Because they were getting ready to go to the fishing trip. Brittany asked Janet if she's spoken to Kristen and she said she hasn't spoken to her since El Coyote. And then Jasmine says that she had breakfast with her this morning and Michelle said to Janet, she's, is it raining?

Kelli (08:08.302)
Fishing. Yeah.

Wendy (08:28.398)
Or no? Okay, I thought I just heard like this storm. Matt's up at Windward Beach for Summerfest. Yeah, so that's what I'm like. Probably, well, Bill can figure it out.

Kelli (08:28.45)
It's, I think it's going to rain, yeah.

Kelli (08:34.854)
he is.

Does he need a ride?

Kelli (08:42.818)
I believe it's raining because now I hear it.

Wendy (08:45.42)
You too. All right, let me let them figure it out. So Janet, Michelle says to Janet that she's mad at you because she wanted to, Kristen wanted to have the conversation with Michelle and then Janet jumped into it. So she couldn't have the conversation, because it had nothing to do with Janet. And Erin asked like, how did the conversation get so heated so quickly? Which is a really valid question. And Janet said, well, there's these group of people.

Kelli (09:03.47)
Nothing.

Wendy (09:13.26)
that whenever the heat is on them, all of a sudden these made up rumors get thrown out. I'm like, group of people, really? Yeah. Jason was a victim of it. You guys were a victim of it. It's deflection to me, Janet says. I'm like, come on.

Kelli (09:18.712)
They deflect.

Kelli (09:30.722)
Right, so let's break it down.

Kelli (09:35.716)
Kristen was not deflecting last season when she was talking about Michelle. Michelle clearly was seeing somebody. Whether it was Aaron or not, we don't know. We don't give a fuck. But that's not deflection, that was the truth. She just happened to say it on camera. And the Jason thing, she did repeat something she heard, but she's already said, she wasn't deflect, she was just coming for you because you kept going for Nia and Dani. It's very clear cut. So Janet, sit the fuck down and stop going after Dani and Nia.

Wendy (09:44.001)
Right.

Wendy (09:59.224)
That's right. That's right.

Kelli (10:05.834)
unless you want Kristin to bring stuff up about your husband that she has genuinely heard. Because it's been established that it was put out there by somebody.

Wendy (10:12.962)
Which by the way.

Yep. It was, it was. saw on Bravo's snark side today that Nia disabled commenting on her posts. Not Nia. No, Janet. Sorry. Janet did. No, Janet. Janet did. No. Janet did. the funny thing about it is Danny Buco liked it. The snark side. So funny, right? I was like, my God.

Kelli (10:25.636)
Nia did? Janet, okay I was gonna say that makes more sense because who the hell is commenting on poor Nia?

Kelli (10:41.562)
That's so funny!

Wendy (10:45.998)
Right? So funny.

Kelli (10:47.598)
That's hysterical!

Kelli (10:52.882)
yeah, I mean she's the most hated reality TV star right now. Reality TV personality, excuse me, she is not a star. We do not refer to her as a star.

Wendy (10:56.664)
She is not.

Okay, that's very true. And she is no, she really is not, she's not liked and she shouldn't be because she's really, she's horrible. And while this whole conversation, Michelle's like, I just want to be at the pool with my hot boyfriend, like, enjoy this day. And why do we keep bringing up his ex-girlfriend? Because like, this is what is coming up. Like, and she's like,

Kelli (11:06.636)
No, she should not. Terrible.

Kelli (11:17.924)
So funny how she does not want anybody talking about Jenna.

Wendy (11:22.702)
Do you blame her? I mean would you want someone to talk? Yeah.

Kelli (11:24.354)
I don't blame her at all, I just think it's funny that this girl keeps getting brought up. And really, like who cares? Like who's, so what's the mind, what's the mindset here? Jesse reached out to somebody, Zach, Kristen, whoever, and was like, listen, this is what we should do this season. We should bring Jenna back on, because Aaron dated her 15 years ago, and then maybe we can make it like he cheated on Michelle with her.

Wendy (11:29.485)
Yeah.

Kelli (11:53.976)
Right? Cause that's what basically they were trying to prove that Michelle went to his house and he was in bed with somebody else or nobody cares.

Wendy (12:00.588)
Right, right, right. Right, exactly, exactly. You guys are working too hard on this. Right? Yeah, no, totally agree.

Kelli (12:07.14)
Way too hard. Way, way too hard. And Jesse, quite honestly, nobody cares if Michelle cheated on you. Right?

Wendy (12:14.904)
Well, actually, we don't care, but there are people that do care and people do care. They do care. mean, Michelle is a villain in their eyes because she admitted to cheating, even though he's a douche. But for whatever reason, no, he wasn't. he's, well, he hasn't admitted it. She admitted it, but he did not. He didn't admit it. Right.

Kelli (12:18.124)
you're right. People do. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

He wasn't having sex with her. He-

Right. He wasn't having sex with her. What? Four years? Five years? Even, listen, again, even if it was one year, even if it was two weeks and your wife came to you and was like, I need to be intimate with you. This is what I need. And you don't do it?

Wendy (12:39.233)
Yeah.

Wendy (12:51.244)
Yeah, but it wasn't even, I mean, I don't even think that was even the big crook. He didn't make her feel special. didn't tell her she was pretty. He didn't do anything. Like he could have just been nice to her. He wasn't even nice to her. Right? I mean, that's what it came down to. Then we see Kristen goes to Zach and Benji's room and my gosh, she almost walked in when they're trying to pack up all the stuff with all her surprises. Yeah. And they're like, I'm naked. And she walks right in and she's like,

Kelli (12:57.548)
No, not at all.

Kelli (13:13.636)
The t-shirts

Wendy (13:21.368)
that.

Kelli (13:25.07)
feel like she may have walked in on them naked once before, once or twice before. She's like, whatever.

Wendy (13:28.744)
Maybe, Yeah. Luke is saying that last night was a disaster. He was very emotional. He was in his feelings. And Kristen is saying, don't think, and then, because then Luke shows up after Kristen's in there. And Kristen's saying, I don't think I want to shower before we go on the boat.

Kelli (13:53.748)
my god, that was so funny.

Wendy (13:55.342)
And no, Luke is like, no, you're not gonna have time. Like you definitely wanna shower because you know, we're go right to the luau. She's like, no, I don't wanna shower. And listen, I was thinking the same thing. I don't wanna shower before I go to a boat either. Right? They were fishing. Right. I wouldn't wanna shower either. But he's trying to talk her into showering. And so is Luke. Like they're all like, you know, you probably should shower.

Kelli (14:06.146)
Right, yeah, if they were fishing, like what's the point? Yeah, yeah. No.

Wendy (14:22.52)
Then we see Jax with Cruz at the house. He lets us know it's been seven days since he got out of the facility. He thought that Cruz might have forgotten about him. Okay, I mean, he's not gonna forget about you, Jax. Yeah.

Kelli (14:34.852)
That's a little dramatic, Jack.

Wendy (14:39.022)
The next scene I thought was

Kelli (14:40.036)
Did you think the crews looked a little scared?

Wendy (14:44.354)
Well, I mean, we know he's on the spectrum. So I don't think Cruz's emotions are really something that would indicate what he's feeling. Like what he's showing on his face, I don't think that those are indicating his emotions because of his condition, I would say that. The next scene where we see Jason, Jesse, and Aaron are all having shaved ice together, I was like, whoa, like, okay, we're doing this?

Kelli (14:54.617)
Yeah.

You're right. Yeah.

Kelli (15:10.436)
a little awkward. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (15:11.97)
kind of actually liked it though. I'm like, okay, we're doing this. Like, let's do it, right?

Jesse's in his confessional and he says like it's in his best interest, you know, to get along with Aaron because Isabella says that she loves him, which I thought was such a strong word. But then they show you a clip.

Kelli (15:31.128)
I mean, we saw it, we saw it already. That was in the very beginning of the season. I think that's a little, I think that's crazy, quite honestly, that she's telling him that she loves him.

Wendy (15:33.454)
I know. I know.

Wendy (15:43.966)
I well.

Wendy (15:49.4)
I feel a lot of ways about it to be honest with you. I if I was Jesse, that would be like, whoa, how do you, yeah, yeah. I mean, and even solidify his theory more that he'd been around way before. Like.

Kelli (15:57.7)
crushing.

Kelli (16:07.844)
Yeah, and the thing is, that she's so little, she's so young. It's not like, it's not like, like they got together and it's 10 years later and this guy's been through it with her and you know what I mean? Like everybody's co-parenting and he's a great stepdad and it's not like, we're not there yet. I just thought that that was really quick and she's so young to be saying that.

Wendy (16:11.808)
Yes, she's so young. That's what it is, is that she's so young.

Wendy (16:24.492)
Right. Right.

Right, now what is she, four years old?

Kelli (16:36.75)
to somebody she doesn't know that well.

Wendy (16:39.096)
Right, I did too. And then I also thought like, my God, like what if this doesn't work? Now she's gonna lose Aaron? Like that's my first thought. Like why isn't anyone protecting Isabel? I mean, by anybody, mean actually Michelle. Yeah.

Kelli (16:45.76)
Exactly. Exactly.

Kelli (16:53.058)
Michelle. No, she's encouraging it. She's holding the phone up. I don't co-sign that. No.

Wendy (16:56.662)
Yeah, I don't... Yeah.

I don't either. don't either. I don't either.

Kelli (17:08.516)
How about the story about him? It did seem a little staged where Aram was like, when was the last time you played hockey? And Jesse tells the story that it was 2016, he got buried in the corner, had a concussion and called Michelle to pick him up from the hospital. And that's when they got back together.

Wendy (17:27.726)
Right, they hadn't been dating for a few weeks. And he was like, well, who do I call? I know, I thought that that was a little stage two.

Kelli (17:30.19)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, because for Aaron to bring up, I don't know, to me it did, it seemed it.

Wendy (17:39.838)
It was, it was a little staged, I felt that same way. And then Aaron asked him, well, if you didn't call her to pick you up, would you have gotten back together? And Jesse said, I mean, what does that tell you? Right.

Kelli (17:51.204)
Right. And you figure that's 2016. They filmed this in 2024. That's eight years ago. Isabella's what, five?

Wendy (18:03.611)
I think she's only four. Maybe she's five.

Kelli (18:05.464)
Yeah, so they were together a while before they had her. I didn't realize that. I thought it was very, honestly I thought they dated for a little while and Michelle got pregnant so they got married. That's what I thought happened. But it doesn't seem like that.

Wendy (18:21.517)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:22.67)
They must have been dating for quite some time.

Wendy (18:26.358)
I know. then in the, listen. And then one of the producers asked Jesse and the confessional. So basically you got, you got back together with Michelle because you were concussed. Jesse left and said, yeah, I've been concussed for eight and a half years, which is the timeframe, right? And then Aaron said, was it the only time you guys broke up? And Jesse said, well, yeah. And Jason said, well, no, there was the other time you guys broke up. And Jesse said, yeah.

Kelli (18:37.849)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:42.934)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah!

Wendy (18:56.066)
when Erin started dating her, I was like, this is just really...

Kelli (19:02.114)
And then he said something about her sleeping in his bed while dating Aaron, but I, listen, if she was still living in the house, okay, but she wasn't sleeping in bed, if she was sleeping in that bed, Jesse was not. It might've been the marital bed, but he wasn't in there with her. No way.

Wendy (19:18.008)
Right.

Right, there's no way, right. Yeah. But then Jesse said, well, technically Michelle and I are still together, right lawyer? And he says, you know, to Jason, he nods to Jason. And Aaron looks uncomfortable and he said, that must feel real good. Like technically they're still married, but yeah, here I am. I'm like, oh God, like you guys.

Kelli (19:40.834)
Yeah, banging your wife.

Kelli (19:45.762)
And then of course Jax has to FaceTime so he could be on the trip somehow.

Wendy (19:49.334)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (19:54.05)
Jesse also does say, listen, I'm gonna do my part not to call Michelle a lying, cheating whore. Okay, great. Look, he's gotta actually say those words out loud. Like you have to say those words out loud.

Kelli (20:01.294)
Thanks.

You are so awesome.

Kelli (20:12.958)
Literally, he's the worst.

Wendy (20:16.453)
And so that, you know, they agree that they're gonna, you know, they're gonna move forward and be friends or at least cordial together. wouldn't say, they'll have shaved ice together, right? So then we see Kristen and Luke and Nia and Danny are fishing and Nia is trying to get Kristen to take pictures, like looking cute. And Kristen's like, my God, I'm so hot. I feel, I don't feel cute. And she's like, not wanting to do this. And then, you know,

Danny's trying to tell Luke, he's like, I can't get the ring. She's sitting on the bag. The ring is in my, and this whole, and then Nia's like, all right, we got it. We're gonna lose the lighting, Kristen. We're gonna lose the lighting. So Kristen gets up, they get the ring, and then they're taking the pictures of Danny and Nia, and they're like, okay, now let's get pictures of you. And I thought it was so cute how Luke is like positioning her to look at the dolphins, and then gets, right, he gets down on one knee and she turns around and she's like, what the fuck?

Kelli (21:06.904)
Yeah, the dolphins.

Wendy (21:14.08)
And I just started cracking up. was like, my God, like.

Kelli (21:17.718)
And you know me, I never believe anything on these shows are real. I honestly do not think she knew.

Wendy (21:22.136)
Did you believe that was real? No, I definitely do not think she knew. I mean, that reaction, that reaction, like, what the fuck are you serious? Like, that was like, she looked pissed, like, what the fuck? I mean, not that she was. I literally laughed out loud when she did, when he like positioned her there and she turned around and he was on his knee. was like, my God, he really got her. Like, she was really surprised. And.

Kelli (21:26.582)
really don't think she knew.

Kelli (21:32.748)
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I thought that was great.

Kelli (21:47.296)
Totally. And listen, I don't think there's a better person out there for her. He really does just let her be who she is. Kookie Kristen.

Wendy (21:55.66)
Yeah, that's what she said in her confessional. Yep, that's what she said in her confessional. He's like my rock. He lets me be who I am. And he said, you will you be the catch of my lifetime, which I thought was so sweet.

Kelli (22:02.777)
Yeah.

Kelli (22:08.492)
I did hear that on the after show. said Luke was like, did I really say that? It's so corny. She was like, it is corny, but I really liked it.

Wendy (22:13.294)
Yeah. Then Zach and Benji are going over to Kristin's and Zach's room so that they can switch their stuff because they're switching rooms.

Kelli (22:26.36)
That's so fucking annoying that they had to do that. I'm like, poor Zach and Benji have to go pack someone else's shit up? Fuck that. sorry, I'm trying not to curse.

Wendy (22:34.688)
I know. And then, yeah, I did think that was annoying too. And listen, what's her name? Kristen didn't know about it, but like they said, Luke knew, so like why did he unpack every last thing? Like put everything in the drawers, like.

Kelli (22:45.58)
Luke knew. Exactly. Eric does that when we go away. He unpacks everything, he's using drawers. I'm like, you're out of your mind. I live out of a suitcase when we're away. If there's something that needs to be steamed, I take it out, I hang it up, but uh-uh. Everything is in a specific space. I'm not forgetting anything.

Wendy (23:09.55)
See? I like to unpack too. I unpack. I unpack. I'm an unpacker.

Kelli (23:13.212)
god.

Kelli (23:20.056)
What about Bill? Does Bill unpack? He does whatever you do.

Wendy (23:21.53)
Bill unpacks. no, Bill unpacks. He'll be like, as soon as we get into the room, he's like, come on, let's unpack. Even if I don't want to unpack right that second, he wants to unpack right away. Unpack immediately, let's unpack. Okay, let's unpack. I mean, I'm glad we both like to unpack, but I don't, know, we need to do it again. Right, nope, he needs it. Cause he wants to get the luggage away. He doesn't want to see the luggage. He wants to get that hidden someplace. He's moving in there. Wherever it is we're going, whether it's a night, a two night.

Kelli (23:34.788)
Right, maybe not right the second you walk in.

Wendy (23:49.454)
Five nights, he is moving in. Oh, yeah.

Kelli (23:51.652)
I said, Eric's putting shit in the safe. I'm like, what the fuck are you putting in the safe? We have nothing of that much value that needs to be put in the safe. And Eric will forget the combination that he set for himself.

Wendy (23:57.934)
Bill does the same thing. Bill's very much into the safe as well.

Kelli (24:09.796)
Yes, always uses the safe. like, well, I don't, you know what? Maybe I don't want to know. Maybe I don't want to know what's going in this safe.

Wendy (24:16.238)
Yeah, probably not. It's so funny because, you know, we're leaving soon for vacation and I'm sure there's gonna be a safe and Bill, he'll be like, all right, let's put your jewelry in the safe. I know it's gonna be a conversation. I know he's gonna be like, come on, where's your jewelry? Let's put it in the safe. Okay, I'm put my jewelry in the safe. Okay, let's do it.

Kelli (24:34.231)
Alright.

Kelli (24:38.66)
This so funny.

Wendy (24:40.206)
So then they run into Jesse and they're like, oh gosh, we're have to tell him what's going on. And they tell him and he's like, oh, like let's get the 500 white roses and 500 hibiscus petals. I'm like, then he's like, no, let's get them a thousand. I'm like, what are you doing?

Kelli (24:54.538)
I thought it was so funny. Zach's like, Jesse wants 500 white roses, a thousand hibiscus flowers. But Michelle said he's broke. I guess he's got a credit card.

Wendy (24:56.878)
you

Wendy (25:04.213)
Michelle says he's broke. Right. Yeah, I laughed at that too. And then he calls up and he gets disconnected. Like, I'm just like...

Kelli (25:14.404)
They're like, well, F off. Like, no, we can't do that.

Wendy (25:22.132)
No, that's funny. So then we see Brittany and Janet and Jason in the suite together and Brittany says to Janet, you think we can room service shots? And she's like, yeah. And Jason's like, wait, wait, whoa, whoa. No, I'm dressed. I'll go downstairs and just get a bottle of tequila. And Janet's like, this is why Jason's in the girls' room. And I was thinking, my God, this would so be Bill. I would be like saying like, let's do, and Bill would be like, no, no, no, let me go, let me go. Let me go get this, right? Like that would be so Bill.

Kelli (25:46.264)
Right. Yeah. Yes. Yes.

Wendy (25:52.974)
And then we see Jasmine's talking to Melissa. She's surprised that nobody knows, because Jasmine figured it out before.

Kelli (26:00.526)
She figured it out, but had she spoken to anybody about it yet?

Wendy (26:04.204)
She had told Zach that she knew and Zach was mad, but she had figured it out because she said, you know, like, why isn't Zach hanging out with me? Like, what's going on? Like she, you know, she felt something was off. And then Melissa's like kind of, no, this is a double. And do you see Jasmine? She's like, wait, no, no, you better not do that. And then she didn't really let it go right away.

Kelli (26:26.35)
Yeah.

Wendy (26:32.928)
And then she's like, no, no, it's, you know, it's not real. I wasn't sure if she wanted it or she didn't. I think she kind of did want it. I think she kind of, I think she kind of did want it. I really do. kind of felt like Jasmine kind of wanted it. Like she wasn't giving us clear.

Kelli (26:37.994)
I know, it was hard to tell.

Kelli (26:45.154)
Yeah, well that's gonna come up this season. They're gonna sit like, cause one of them saying, well, you have to do it. And the other one's like, well, you have to do it. Which is, it must be an interesting conversation with a gay couple. Like do, or do you discuss it? Or do you remember, did you watch Modern Family?

Wendy (26:56.726)
Like who does it? Same sex, yeah.

Kelli (27:06.048)
One of my favorite episodes is when Cam and Mitchell get engaged because they were both planning on doing it and had different people in the family helping them out. And of course it gets all, you know, confusing. But that's such a great episode. But yeah, I wonder, I mean, I guess it doesn't have to be a conversation, just like it doesn't have to be a conversation in a heterosexual.

Wendy (27:18.902)
Of course it does. Right.

Wendy (27:30.67)
It doesn't have to be a conversation, but it's...

Kelli (27:31.788)
relationship, it's just typically the man who does it. Not all the time, but typically the man who does it.

Wendy (27:38.486)
Yeah, I know. guess it is going to have to, we're going to have to see how that plays out, right?

Kelli (27:43.15)
But that, comes up this season between them. So it'll be interesting. I'd like to see another engagement. Brittany's reaction was a little, I thought Brittany was making it about herself, but.

Wendy (27:50.616)
Yeah, I would too.

Wendy (27:55.31)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, cause Zach then calls over and tells Brittany and the first thing she's like, oh, so only Danny and Nia got to be there? And she's like, I'm her best friend. Like, why wasn't I there? And I, yeah.

Kelli (28:11.886)
will get out of Janet's ass long enough to realize that this was going on.

Wendy (28:17.238)
I saw something on social media today that said the real reason Brittany wasn't part of it and I clicked on it and didn't take me anywhere. So I don't know if there's a real reason, but I do think it could have had to do with Janet's situation and the fact that everything was going on in her life with Jax. Like, do you want to get her involved in this? Like, no. She's got too much shit going on in her life.

Kelli (28:35.37)
I, yeah, I would think that Luke, right, would probably have thought, like, you know what, she's got enough going on, let's just, you know, yeah.

Wendy (28:45.294)
Right. And it's not like Luke was close with Jax. So he went to Danny, actually. And then, you know, Zach figured it out. like Zach got like, you know what I mean? It wouldn't have made sense for Brittany to have been a part of it. And there's no way, like, if Janet knew, there's no way that she wouldn't have ruined the surprise. She definitely would have ruined the surprise for Kristen.

Kelli (29:00.824)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (29:15.15)
Janet for sure for sure

Wendy (29:16.758)
Yes. Yeah. So they had to keep it, they had to keep the circle very small, right? So then Jason goes over to tell Janet and Michelle that he just overheard Zach telling Brittany that Luke and Kristen are engaged now. I know. And he admits, he admits that he eavesdropped. It's not that he overheard, he said, no, I was listening. I was like.

Kelli (29:22.19)
Yes, yes.

Kelli (29:28.484)
You're like a little bitch boy, Jason.

Kelli (29:38.852)
gotta look up what firm he works for, because these people must be like, who did we hire?

Wendy (29:45.47)
So then Janet in her confessional says, fuck, fuck. So now we've left our child for the first time, the longest time we've ever left him for Kristen's engagement trip. Way to make it about you, Janet. Way to make it about you.

Kelli (29:59.032)
Heff off, Gannet. Exactly.

Wendy (30:03.83)
And then Janet says, this dinner's for them, then I'm gonna bow out. And Janet calls Zach and says that she and Jason think it would be best if they weren't there. And Zach is like, thinking, my God, thank God, because Zach didn't want them there, but how do you not have them there?

Kelli (30:19.338)
He didn't, but he was telling her, like, you can come to the dinner. You can come to the dinner. And she wasn't, she wasn't happy.

Wendy (30:24.546)
Right.

Wendy (30:28.172)
Right. And so.

Kelli (30:31.16)
Jason seemed a little disappointed that they weren't going though, didn't he?

Wendy (30:33.986)
Well, Jason seemed disappointed about the whole thing. And even she kept saying, Janice, I'm hungry. Let's just go eat. It was all about the food, right? mean, I-

Kelli (30:44.368)
I think that was Janet's way of getting out of the situation as quickly as possible with Jason so they could take their mics off, because nobody wants to watch them too, and go talk about how she really felt.

Wendy (30:54.028)
That's probably it.

Yes, because you could see that she felt a certain way and Jason was not on board with the way she was feeling because then

Kelli (31:05.9)
Right, like she's like, we're not doing anything tomorrow. And he's like, whoa, whoa, Like pump the brakes.

Wendy (31:08.682)
Right, right. Cause then Janet goes to tell Brittany that her and Jason are not going to go to dinner. They're going to go by themselves. And you know, she doesn't want to walk. She doesn't want Kristen to walk into her being there, like her being all happy and her being there. And you know, she's, and then Janet's like, we'll just talk to everybody when we're back in LA. And Jason's like, wait, LA? Why? And Janet's like, well, I'm not going to hang out with them tomorrow either. And

Jason's like, what do you mean? Well, what did she say? She said, oh, if we're gonna be excluded from one thing, I don't wanna jump into anything else. Jason said, first of all, we weren't excluded from anything. And they weren't, they were not excluded. And this is why I do like Jason, but then I don't like him because then he just falls in line. Like he's.

Kelli (31:50.84)
Right, now, now.

Kelli (31:59.768)
I know, but at least he said something like, can you stop making decisions without talking to me? Like, it's nice to meet you, Jason. Welcome. Right.

Wendy (32:05.28)
Right, yeah, Yes, yes, you do have a set. It's about time you start using them. Jason says, it does make sense for us not to be there since we, like, I took off from work to be here. Like, this is my vacation also. She kept just going, no, this is theirs. This will always be their engagement trip. That's what this is. Like, she just kept labeling it. Like, she was like, all right.

Kelli (32:30.084)
She shouldn't have been there. They should not have let her come. But I know. You think otherwise. Cast trip, they all need to be there.

Wendy (32:34.22)
Yeah.

Wendy (32:38.508)
Yeah, Jason said I literally took off work and it's not about them. Brittany's saying that she feels, which I don't blame her, she feels weird that this conversation is happening in her bathroom while she's getting ready. And I don't blame her like having this argument. I'm being like. And then Jen is like, I'm just going to get food because I'm hungry. So in her confessional, she says, just because Kristin went for my marriage and Jessie and Michelle's marriage doesn't mean that she doesn't deserve a happy engagement celebration. What?

Kelli (32:51.044)
You're eating it.

Kelli (33:05.912)
Yeah, F off Janet.

Wendy (33:07.318)
Yeah. We see Jesse's helping Zach and Benji get the suite ready for Kristen and Luke, which I did think was hysterical. And then we see that they're coming back to the suite and they walk in and everyone's there with the shirts on and they're all surprised and they ask them not to post anything yet because they haven't told their family and they're like, no, of course we won't. But were they going out to dinner after that?

Kelli (33:16.654)
That was very funny.

Wendy (33:36.78)
Is that what they were doing?

Kelli (33:37.516)
Yeah, so they were just putting the t-shirts on to take a group picture and then they were going out to dinner where they could take the t-shirts off. Like Zach was like, just put the t-shirt on so we could take a picture, but don't post anything until tomorrow. Yeah. So then they could wear their fancy outfits to dinner.

Wendy (33:41.122)
Okay.

Wendy (33:47.316)
Okay. Okay. And then I guess, okay, so we ended it there. We didn't see the go out to dinner. And then I guess the next day they're going on a boat trip that it looks like Janet does wind up staying for. Cause that's what we see is coming up next week.

Kelli (34:06.562)
Yeah, so, so Brittany again walks into the suite and is complaining that she didn't know anything and that she could have done better. I don't know what the fuck she was saying. But Zach announced two surprises. They swapped rooms for the presidential suite and then they were having hors d'oeuvres and stuff downstairs. Did you notice that Aaron was not in the suite with them?

Wendy (34:16.428)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (34:23.799)
Yes.

Wendy (34:32.394)
No.

Kelli (34:33.654)
He was not in the suite with not that I saw.

Wendy (34:37.088)
No, I didn't notice that. Well, that would be weird. Why wasn't he there?

Kelli (34:40.504)
Yeah, I know. I don't know.

Wendy (34:44.96)
No, I didn't notice that.

That's interesting. I did notice people on social media were coming for Aaron and his eyes when he was talking to Jesse, how he didn't blink at all and his eyes were like popping out.

Kelli (35:01.986)
Listen, I'm not gonna say that, know, what people want, you know, what people are saying, but the guy's dog's name is Kelo. We've had this conversation.

Wendy (35:17.651)
Yes, the dog's name is Kilo.

Kelli (35:20.088)
Who names their dog Kilo?

Wendy (35:22.264)
Yes, that is true. It's true.

Kelli (35:24.748)
I saw that though, that they were coming for him for his eyes. But I'm not, you know, listen, they're coming for Jody on Miami too with the eyes and there's nothing wrong with the guy's eyes. So stupid.

Wendy (35:27.476)
Mm-hmm

Wendy (35:32.318)
I know. No, there's not. There's not. It is stupid. So I think that's all I have for the valley for now, right? Do you have anything else? Okay. So until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe. Bye.

Kelli (35:43.449)
I'm good.

Kelli (35:50.968)
Bye.