The Valley: Hips, Hits & Hospital Trips

Wendy (00:01.116)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.8)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:06.768)
We are talking about the Valley season three, episode 14, Hips Don't Lie. But before we get into that, I'd like to thank everyone who's already done this, subscribed on YouTube. If you haven't, please head over to YouTube and hit subscribe. Go to Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram. Also hit follow and give us five-star reviews. And if you've done it, thank you very much.

Kelli (00:28.43)
Thank you.

Wendy (00:30.34)
We pick up where we left off at the lunch where Janet's walking away and calling Jason and she's crying about how it's bringing up all these unresolved feelings that she can't talk about on camera. Tom goes over to try right. Tom goes over and tries to comfort her. And back at the table, Jesse's saying, like, this is not how

Kelli (00:47.928)
Right.

Wendy (00:57.796)
like she should communicate with people. She always walks away. And I a hundred percent agree with that. And then they give all these examples of every time someone's tried to talk to her and she's walked away. Whether it be Jesse, whether it be whoever it is, she just walks away. She cannot deal with conflict.

Kelli (01:14.978)
What's interesting to me is that the Danny stuff is bringing up you know things feelings from her for her from her past she can't talk about what didn't didn't that happen when Jax threw Britney into a bush and when Jax would verbally and physically abuse Brittany? Didn't any of that bring up any?

Any of these emotions? Or it's just Danny. Right. Cause you wrote hard for Jax after he did that. Body shaming his own wife.

Wendy (01:45.722)
That's a very good point. It's just Danny. It just Danny triggers her.

Right. And

Yeah. Yeah. And you know, if you remember, like that's what Nia said is that when they were at Brittany's house and Janet said that she had dealt with an addict. So I'm sure that this is who she's referring to is triggering her. Not the cocaine addict that was Jack's Taylor.

Kelli (02:19.658)
Exactly. That didn't trigger her. That didn't bring up any PTSD. Come on now, Janet. Right. Right. Right. That's what he was. Just Danny, who drinks too much a couple of times and, you know, gets belligerent. Because if we're still talking about the Jasmine thing.

Wendy (02:21.478)
Just yeah. Right.

Right. Not that addict. Not the Jax Taylor cocaine addict. I just wanna say it. 'Cause we know that now. 'Cause he admitted it to us.

Kelli (02:48.404)
It shouldn't have taken this long f like if if this has anything to do with an essay experience that Janet may have or may have not had, why would it be coming up now? A whole season later.

Wendy (02:58.66)
Right. 'Cause we don't know.

Wendy (03:07.932)
So a producer goes

Kelli (03:08.344)
So it's gotta be about the ab the substance issues, I would imagine. But who knows?

Wendy (03:13.276)
I would imagine, but we don't know. A producer comes over and starts talking to Janet, and she's and Janet says, like, it brings up feelings of something from my past. And she has the producer say she says the producer, like, can we talk about this off camera? Okay. In her confessional, she said that these actions have triggered her because of something from her past, and she has a hard time apologizing to someone for something she knows causes so much pain.

It doesn't who does it cause so much pain for? Because it's not Jasmine and it's not Nia. So who is it that this is causing pain for?

Wendy (03:54.543)
So Tom is there. He says, like, I don't understand why she's holding on to that. Like it's not even her pain, which is kind of what we're saying. Aeneas is saying that when when Michelle says that Daniel's making everyone feel uncomfortable, it's just ridiculous because his behavior is not different than anyone else's. And we agree with that, right? We totally agree with that. And Kristen called it out and said, Brittany, Jasmine, Zach.

Kelli (04:02.819)
Right.

Kelli (04:13.976)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (04:22.764)
They also get drunk and act a fool. They all do it. Not just Danny.

Kelli (04:26.316)
Right. Right.

Wendy (04:30.736)
Janet comes back to the table and sits down, doesn't engage in any conversation. Back at the resort, Zach, Benji, and Melissa and Jasmine are hanging out at the pool, having a great time, and Lacey shows up. they hear about the random text that Janet sent Britney, but they don't really know the details of it.

On the beach, Lala, Brittany and Zack are letting the baby turtles go running off not Zack, Luke. Lala, Britney and Luke are letting the baby tur my god, they were so cute. They were so cute.

Kelli (05:00.024)
Luke They were so cute

Wendy (05:08.006)
They were cute.

They're running into the ocean and Luke is like, my god, Kristen is gonna be so jealous. I would have been jealous too, because I would have loved to see those little baby turtles. I don't like I know that they like hatch off and that's something that happens, but I I don't know. Brittany asks Zach how Kristen is doing today, and no, asks Luke. Why do I have Zach written down every time it's Luke? Brittany asks Luke how Kristen is doing today. I don't know why my notes are backwards. And he said, Yeah, she's a little bit better.

Kelli (05:19.139)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:24.598)
I know, they were super cute.

Kelli (05:35.48)
Ha ha ha ha.

Wendy (05:41.273)
when they're done at lunch, the crew goes shopping. I love watching Mish Jesse and Michelle are gonna go shopping for Isabella and they talk about are we gonna get her something from both of us? And you know, they're getting along very well. Mish Jesse says, you know, she loved that dress that your mom got her from from Mexico. And Michelle asked Jesse if going forward he can just be a little bit more sensitive because it's very difficult for her to see.

Kelli (05:50.829)
Yeah.

Wendy (06:11.066)
Him kissing and loving on Lacey because those are all the things that she wanted from him when they were married and he wasn't able to do that. I completely understand what she's saying. I do. I do.

Kelli (06:23.704)
Understand what she's saying, but she didn't have a problem being affectionate with Aaron in front of Jesse.

Wendy (06:32.826)
Because he wasn't he wasn't ever giving her that. And I that's what Jesse's saying. He's like, listen, I last year I was I had to sit in Hawaii with you and Aaron while he was down the other end of the table, like doing these things. But I understand what she's saying. I totally understand what she's saying. Because if the Jesse we see with Lacey is the Jesse that Michelle got, I don't think that they would be divorced.

Kelli (06:45.976)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:02.936)
She wanted his affection. Sh she wanted his affection. Right. Listen, I think that people changed.

Kelli (07:03.32)
Yeah, I wonder what happened. Yeah. I wonder what happened. Like

Kelli (07:10.958)
think we ever got the full story of yeah, yeah, I don't think we ever got the full and I mean, listen, it doesn't really matter now, but it's just a shame.

Wendy (07:20.868)
It is a shame because I feel like I said, I feel for Michelle. I totally feel for her. I get where Jesse's saying. Like I had to watch you and Aaron, and now I'm happy with Lacey. Now I'm gonna have to withhold affection affection from Lacey when it's in front of you. And honestly, from everything I've seen from Lacey, Lacey totally would get it. She would totally get it. 'Cause we're gonna see next week. I mean, Lacey and Michelle have a conversation. And I think

Kelli (07:42.754)
Yes.

Wendy (07:48.975)
I think once Michelle explains to Lacey where she's coming from, I think she's gonna get it 'cause I do not think Lacy is unreasonable. I like Lacey. I like everything about Lacey. And I like Michelle more.

Kelli (07:59.469)
And think about it, like the fact that they're on a TV show together, like that's not normal. It's not normal to have to work every day with your ex and their new significant other. Like that's basically what this is. It's a working relationship and they have to they have to go on trips together like way before they were probably ready to when you know. So it is it's right.

Wendy (08:07.276)
No.

Wendy (08:14.447)
No.

Wendy (08:19.878)
Right.

Wendy (08:23.994)
Right. While they're co parenting.

I mean Lacey said when they were in Hawaii, she was watching Isabella. She was the one watching Isabella. So, like, we know that. And I like I said, I don't think Lacey's unreasonable. I really don't think Michelle's unreasonable. I think that for whatever reason, Lacey and Michelle's Jesse and Michelle's relationship didn't work, and now that Michelle sees how he treats Lacey, it hurts her to her core. Because had Jesse treated her that way.

Kelli (08:33.259)
Right.

Wendy (08:57.496)
It wouldn't have been a divorce because we saw we saw the proposal in Paris. We saw the pictures of I mean there are pictures, but we I mean there had to be a a deep love there. There had to be. Right, right. And my heart breaks. I'll I'll be honest with you. My heart breaks for Michelle and I get where I get where Jesse's coming from. I do. I I I see both sides of this.

Kelli (09:08.514)
At some point, yeah.

Kelli (09:19.82)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like maybe he does acknowledge the fact that he wasn't the most affectionate person and he's trying to be different. You know, so this relationship doesn't go ass up.

Wendy (09:28.378)
Right. But I think I think the I think what the difference is at that is that I'll be honest with you, not that so much that Lacey has money, because that is definitely something we both know. But I think it's that Lacey has more self confidence than Michelle ever had. And I think that's where I think that's where Michelle had a problem, is that she didn't have enough self confidence to stand up to Jesse. And Lacey does.

Kelli (09:45.859)
Right.

Kelli (09:52.898)
Right.

Wendy (09:56.891)
And I think that that's what Jesse needs is someone to stand up to him.

I I don't know. This is just my looking in from the outside. So when they're done shopping, the shopping people they go down to the beach and Kristen decides she's gonna go swimming topless and so does Michelle. Michelle's gonna join her and meanwhile, Tom is there, Jessie's there, and Nia decides to go get Luke is not there. No, Luke was not there.

Kelli (10:26.604)
Luke. wait, was Luke there? Luke was doing the turtle thing. Right, right, right, right.

Wendy (10:32.238)
No, Lucas Lucas letting the turtles go. Lucas letting the turtles go. Nia's going over to buy coconut drinks for everybody. And then all of a sudden she sees like titties flying.

Kelli (10:45.154)
This is the thing they do.

Wendy (10:47.836)
So that's what Kristen said. And Kristen said, like, this is something we've always done. Like, we've done this skinny dipping thing, and I just totally forgot about my postpartum body. And I I so love this for Kristen that she could just go carefree. I so love this for her. And I love that Michelle joined her. I I I didn't listen, I didn't like that Jesse was there judging her and saying, Well, I'm sure you're a real estate clients or listen, whatever, Jesse, just whatever.

Kelli (10:59.468)
Me too. Yes. Yeah.

Kelli (11:14.626)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was very unnecessary. Very unnecessary.

Wendy (11:17.752)
I love that Michelle went out there and did it with Kristen and that Schwartz was out there trying not to look. And poor Nia would never do that. That is not who it's just like me. I would never do that. Like that is not anything you would ever see me do. But if anyone else does it, I'm not there judging. I will hold the coconuts too. I'll go get coconuts and I'll hold them or whatever beverage we need. I'll be there holding the beverages. I'm there for that.

Kelli (11:40.12)
Real quick, you just reminded me. So when Michelle was up for Watch What Happens live and didn't go to Jasmine's wedding, she s had said she was working with Ryan Sirhand, correct? So Tess and I went down to LBI a couple of weeks ago to have

Wendy (11:53.029)
Right, yes.

Kelli (12:00.153)
God, what are they called? Whatever. We went to this place, I'll think of it, on LBI with my sister in law and my niece. And as we're coming over the bridge, I'm like, I mean, there's a million real estate offices on LBI, but there's one called Sirhant. So my sister in law is a realtor on LBI. So I said, Is that Ryan Sirhant from New York City? She's like, yeah. She's like,

And my sister in law does not watch Bravo. She's like some Bravo douchebag. I'm like I said, he's actually I know. I'm like, he actually is like a legit realtor in New York, but

Wendy (12:32.508)
О май гадало.

Wendy (12:39.3)
No, he he's definitely he's definitely legit he's making bank, Ryan Sirhan.

Kelli (12:42.358)
Yeah, she said she's like they're just using his name, whoever opened that office. Like she's like it's not like he's here, but yeah, so Ryan Serhant has an office on LBI.

Wendy (12:52.954)
That's very cool. No, that's very cool. That's cool.

Kelli (12:54.648)
Yeah.

Wendy (13:02.214)
So back at the resort, well, they're running in the in the ocean topless, and poor Tom Schwartz is trying not to look because that's who Schwartz is. Zach is trying to figure out his outfit for his birthday. And Jesse and Lacey are back in their room, and Lacey wants to know what happened with Janet and Jesse. And like Jesse's filling her in, like what happened at the lunch. Lacey is telling Jesse about the text that Janet sent.

Brittany because he didn't know anything about it, and she found out when she met up with Zach at the pool. Listen, there's a lot of gossip going on here, and you really need to follow the bouncing ball. Like this is what's happening here, right? So Michelle and Janet are telling Britney, Jasmine, and Lala and Melissa about what happened at lunch. And Jasmine is saying the conversation that they had with Tanny Danny today was great. Like

Kelli (13:39.886)
Yes, correct. Yeah.

Wendy (13:57.327)
I hope he's back telling his wife about what happened at lunch today, which is what we were saying. Like they were all getting along so well. And when Nia is right. And when Nia meets up with Danny, she's like saying, Wait a second, th Danny's saying this is not what just was said to me. Like what is going on?

Kelli (14:03.948)
Yes. It was a productive conversation.

Kelli (14:15.106)
Because Michelle said everyone gets uncomfortable when Danny drinks and everyone Danny was with well most everyone and w everyone with Danny was with was like, We don't care if you drink.

Wendy (14:19.512)
Almost everyone. Almost everyone. Right.

Wendy (14:28.366)
Exactly. Danny said, right. Danny said, I just had this conversation and they said nobody cares when I drink. She said, She's like, Who said that? He goes, Brittany, Jasmine, Michelle, and Schwartz's Okay, so they're confused and they're trying to decide like what they're gonna do for, you know, going out tonight. And Danny's like, I'd rather stay home with the kids. And they decide that listen, Nia's gotta feed the baby, so they're gonna go a little bit later, which I think is the perfect solution, right?

Kelli (14:28.492)
So which one is it?

Kelli (14:55.075)
Yes.

Wendy (14:56.376)
Schwartz is dressed in this black lace shirt with this white face paint and a studded collar. I I mean, what was he doing? I have no idea.

Kelli (15:01.599)
my god.

Kelli (15:06.316)
It was supposed to be like slutty nineties, I guess, and I guess he was goth and then I don't know, but it wasn't sexy at all. It wasn't slutty, it wasn't sexy. He looked like a mime.

Wendy (15:15.406)
It wasn't it wasn't sexy or slutty and I he did. And I saw on social media, I didn't go back and look, but I saw on social media somebody put when they went back to Schwartz's room, there was a Coca Cola on the table. And if you look near the Coca Cola, there was lines.

Kelli (15:38.04)
No way.

Wendy (15:39.46)
Yes. I didn't go back and look though because I didn't. But I I it wouldn't surprise me. Would it surprise you?

Kelli (15:47.284)
it wouldn't surprise me at all. No, it wouldn't surprise me at all. Because doesn't who's the guy that produces this show?

Wendy (15:49.967)
It would not surprise me.

Wendy (15:57.007)
Alex Baskin.

Kelli (15:58.573)
Yep. Yep. And I remember the Bra Bros cut calling him out for being Jax's coke buddy. So this was would not surprise me at all.

Wendy (16:00.444)
Mm.

Who covered for Jack's for how long?

Wendy (16:08.73)
Yep. Covered for jacks for how long?

Nope, wouldn't surprise me either. So I just wanted to

Kelli (16:15.106)
I think that's very reckless behavior for anybody out there. You don't do cocaine casually.

Wendy (16:21.888)
no, you definitely do not. You do not. No. I do too. Again, I didn't see it, but I'm just saying this was out there on social media. So if you guys want to go back and look at the Coca-Cola can or bottle back in Schwartz's room with he was sharing the room with Zach and Benji, you'll see probably something. I didn't go back and look, but if you want to look, let us know. Okay. All right.

Kelli (16:25.644)
Reckless behaviour.

Kelli (16:47.36)
I might. Yeah, I might.

Wendy (16:50.616)
If you look, let us know in the comments because I didn't go back and look. Okay. Okay. So Jasmine is on the two-tiered bus and she's decorating it for Jack with all these rainbows and gay stuff and dildos and various other gay accessories. I mean, honestly, I thought it looked fabulous. And as soon as Zach saw it, he thought so too. He's like, my God, I love this. Right?

Kelli (16:52.46)
Yeah, I will. I will. I'll report back.

Kelli (17:08.536)
Ha ha ha.

Kelli (17:12.93)
Yes, he did. Yes, he did.

Wendy (17:17.338)
Nia and Dan are gonna meet them later. Michelle is dancing on the bus and her boobs come out.

Kelli (17:25.782)
Yeah, her boobs really came out.

Wendy (17:28.73)
I mean, that's a tough top to dance in. Jesse was appalled, and Jesse moved down s to the lower level with Lacey. And I get it, because honestly, that's not that's not the Michelle he knew. Right? I get it. I mean, that's his ex-wife. Not not ex at that point, but that's his the mother of his child, right? I get that he's a little appalled by that. I do, I do. So Brittany is talking to to Jesse about a cu of of

Kelli (17:31.245)
Yes.

Kelli (17:41.986)
Right. Right.

Kelli (17:48.578)
Yeah. Right.

Wendy (17:58.109)
'cause so Brittany moves downstairs too, about her accusing

her of being involved with the whole Jax thing, right? Jesse does Brittany feel

Kelli (18:07.842)
And she says to him, You owe me an apology. No, he does not. He does not owe her an apology. Sorry.

Wendy (18:11.098)
Yes. Right.

Wendy (18:17.466)
Right. I listen.

Kelli (18:18.23)
It's not outlandish to think that Britney would go along with what her fucking whack job husband was trying to do last season. It's not outlandish.

Wendy (18:26.008)
No, I I totally agree. It's not outlandish and Danny said he's so sick of

Kelli (18:29.467)
Whether she did it or not, it's not outlandish for someone to think she did.

Wendy (18:34.35)
No, it's not. She's not innocent in this whole thing. She's not. And Danny said, like, he's just sick of everyone always always going Jesse said he's sick of everyone going after Danny and Neil. Like this is bullshit. I'm so sick of this. But because Lacey was there, and Lacey is the voice of reason.

Kelli (18:47.916)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (18:56.42)
Lacey says you cannot lump her in with Jax. He obviously is an abomination and you made her feel so bad. Just apologize. Listen, this is what I like about Lacey is she is the voice of reason, and Jesse does listen to her. Because if Michelle said the exact same thing, if Michelle said the exact same thing, there would be no response, right? So Danny says, Jesse says honestly, the truth is I've held resentment.

Kelli (19:13.922)
He does listen to her.

Kelli (19:19.18)
Right. Right.

Wendy (19:25.606)
for you over the over the past year. And I like that he told her this. He said, Brittany's like, why? He said, because I was standing behind her, meaning Lacey, and at Yash Yamashiro, you were yelling that she was gonna be one of many, and then that she shouldn't have introduced her to Isabella. And I like that he called her out on that. I did. But

Kelli (19:50.466)
Well, especially because Brittany was wasted when she said all of that and acted that way.

Wendy (19:55.717)
Yep. And I wrote that down. Absolutely. Brittany was totally drunk and wasted. She is. And sitting next to her sitting next to Danny were Michelle and Janet at the same time. Right?

Kelli (19:59.727)
She's a sloppy drunk, Brittany.

Kelli (20:10.125)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (20:11.856)
Dan Jesse said you questioned me introducing her to Isabella. Brittany said, no, no, no. I was upset about that because Michelle did not know and she was already braiding Isabella's hair. There's a difference, which I I wrote, Brittany's already drunk while she's having this conversation. Then Michelle jumps in and Janet said, You made a rule that I couldn't introduce a guy to Isabella when you already did it behind my back.

But again, this was not Janice's fight to have. She needed to keep her mouth shut, right? And Jesse calmly says

Kelli (20:44.588)
Nope. She can't. She physically can't. Only when she has backup there, when she doesn't have backup she does keep her mouth shut.

Wendy (20:54.638)
Right. Jesse calmly said to Michelle and Janet, why are you getting involved? Because this was not a conversation. It was him and Britney and Lacey, right?

Kelli (21:06.2)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (21:08.88)
Janet said, because she's involved again. Janet didn't. I was like, Janet needs to get involved. But Lacey jumps in and says, What are you doing? Because Michelle blames me for the hair braiding. Now her and I are going to backtrack because her and Michelle were already in a good place because of your thing with Britney. Like, this is ridiculous. Like, we are grown adults. I'm still in Jesse's life. When you said that, it did hit a nerve and it hurt his feelings. We've moved past that. Lacey says to Jesse,

You defending me and hurting her feelings like

Brittany, like it's not acceptable. You need to apologize. Again, I like that Lacey is a part of his life because she brings him back to reality. I get where Jesse was coming from. He was a hundred percent justified. But them fighting about it isn't gonna go anywhere. It's not gonna solve anything. It's not. And she's right because she's trying to get to a place with Michelle where they're okay because they both have daughters.

Kelli (21:55.81)
Yes.

Wendy (22:10.416)
And their daughters are gonna be in each other's lives as long as as long as Lacey's in Jesse's life, their daughters are gonna be in each other's lives. So they need to get along for the sake of the children, if for nothing else, right?

Kelli (22:18.582)
Right. Right.

Yeah. Absolutely.

Wendy (22:27.578)
So Jesse says, I'm sorry for how I was last night and you didn't deserve it. I like that Lacey and her confessional said, like, Jesse was not wrong. He wasn't wrong. It was just about his delivery. And I agree with her. I agree with her. So on the top of the bus, we see Zach is yelling about a bird shitting on him. Jasmine's cleaning my God, this was traumatic. Jasmine's cleaning off his shoulder.

Kelli (22:36.482)
Mm-hmm.

Right. Right.

Kelli (22:46.51)
my god, this was so bad.

Wendy (22:54.392)
All of a sudden he's standing up and his head gets hit by a sign.

Like

Kelli (23:01.612)
I mean, that was crazy. That was so hard. Like you heard it.

Wendy (23:04.176)
That was crazy.

Wendy (23:07.974)
You heard it? You heard it.

Kelli (23:10.88)
And that was a lot of blood.

Wendy (23:13.968)
Well, anytime there's a head injury, there's a lot of breath. that's just a given bl head injury, blood, right?

I thought what was interesting how the producers were freaking out. Because Zach was like, okay, okay, no, no, no. We're I mean, are the medics meeting us like z Zach did not even want to go to the hospital. He did not want the party to stop. He wanted to go to the club. The the producers are freaking out. Benji looks at it. I mean, Benji is kind of a doctor, right? He's like a eye doctor, maybe. Right? I think he's an eye doctor. I mean, I don't I don't know if that's an eye doctor. I

Kelli (23:31.99)
No, he wanted to go to the cleric. Yeah.

Kelli (23:43.416)
I think so something, yes. He's a doctor of a small part of your body, I forget which one. He's not a head doctor.

Wendy (23:51.009)
Yeah, I don't know. But he looks he's not a head doctor, but he does look at it and said he needs stitches, which I think probably anyone would see a gash in your head with a lot of blood would say you need stitches, right?

Kelli (24:01.462)
Yes, yes, yes.

Wendy (24:04.315)
He's I mean, Zach is he is the man. The fact that it is his birthday party, he doesn't want to go to the hospital, he is insisting all of his friends, if they are his friends, they will continue on to the club, which is what is planned. He will go get his stitches and he will meet them later. And if you don't do that, like you are not his friend. Okay.

Kelli (24:27.021)
Right.

Wendy (24:34.758)
They get to the club. They all take a s a shot for Zach. Zach literally goes dancing into the emergency room. I mean, I'm sorry, but I wanna hang out with Zach. I so wanna hang out with Zach.

Kelli (24:43.15)
He did.

Kelli (24:49.525)
God, yes. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Wendy (24:55.78)
They get to the club. it's called the industry room. This is like a gay club with all these gay men dancing, like, you know, stripper. The flamingo. Mr. Flamingo was just like a place to get a drink. No, not that was not that was not the end destination. Yes. Danny and Nia show up at the industry room. Danny's

Kelli (25:03.084)
Yeah, that first that first place they went to was

Kelli (25:09.186)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But industry was the place to be.

Wendy (25:21.946)
Dancing and Nia says to Danny, You can't move your hips too much. He said he said, Like why? And she said, Because you'll make people feel uncomfortable.

Kelli (25:30.69)
I thought that was very odd.

Wendy (25:33.786)
I thought it was odd, but she kept insisting on it because of what because of what Michelle said. Michelle said that Danny makes people feel un almost everybody feel uncomfortable. Those were Michelle's words.

Kelli (25:37.602)
I know.

Kelli (25:47.726)
So you think she told him not to shake his hips for that because of what Michelle said? Okay. 'Cause I was like, I mean, he's not touching anybody. He's not grinding on anybody.

Wendy (25:52.079)
I do. I think she was

I know. I know. I think she was basing it off of what Michelle said because she was trying to protect him because it wasn't Janet that was saying, it was Michelle that said it. And when she heard it from Michelle, and again, I listen, I felt bad for Danny. He goes up to Lala and says, My wife is saying, pe you know, be very careful. Like you're making you're making people feel uncomfortable. And he says,

Kelli (26:03.514)
sh yeah.

Kelli (26:07.299)
Right.

Wendy (26:21.936)
He's saying it to Luke, but Lala doesn't say it's no problem. She doesn't even acknowledge him.

Kelli (26:27.362)
No, she does not.

Wendy (26:29.092)
She doesn't. And Luke is like, I don't what are you talking about? No. Nope. Nope. Luke is like, what are you talking about? And Luke is there for him. I so love that Luke and Jesse said to Danny, let's all go up on the catwalk up there and let's all dance. Let's do this. Let's do this for him. I I s this made my heart happy.

Kelli (26:30.84)
She's not gonna give him any any, you know, pass.

Kelli (26:50.36)
Yep, yeah.

Wendy (26:57.626)
Because they so had his back. That's all Danny wanted to do. He just wanted to dance. He wasn't gonna make anyone feel uncomfortable if he had people who had his back. To the fact that Luke did it, because that that was the most uncomfortable thing Luke has ever done. Luke is not the guy going up on the catwalk. But the it was cringy yet heartwarming because he was doing it for Danny. Right? I'm sorry.

Kelli (26:57.902)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (27:10.924)
It was very cringy to watch that. It was very cringy.

Kelli (27:18.508)
Yes, yes.

Yes.

Wendy (27:23.79)
And everyone was clapping. Jasmine was loving it. Lala everyone was loving it, right? He wasn't doing anything wrong.

Kelli (27:29.324)
Yeah. Well, almost everyone. I don't think Janet was loving it, but

Wendy (27:34.126)
No, because Janet is triggered by him. Janet's triggered by him.

Wendy (27:41.008)
Wendy (27:47.559)
Danny says that he'd like to have a conversation with Michelle right now. And Nia says, please let's let's have this conversation in the morning. He says, I love you, and he doesn't have it. He doesn't have it. Meanwhile, Michelle is liter literally dancing on the bar. Literally dancing on the bar.

Kelli (28:02.85)
Where yeah.

Wendy (28:06.126)
I mean Danny respects Nia's request not to have the conversation with Michelle because people feel uncomfortable by him when she is dancing on the bar.

I this just blows my mind.

Kelli (28:20.138)
His reaction at this point that when he's like, I'm triggered, I'm triggered, like he should have just been like, okay, so what's good for you is not good for me. Got it. And walked away.

Wendy (28:31.93)
Yeah, but I listen, I get it. I get it. I I do get it. Then we see Jasmine 'cause then Zack shows up. Jasmine meets Zack at the door, with a diet coke, no ice. I didn't know that was his thing, but he comes in with the gauze wrapped around his head like he had just like Brittany said when she showed up after her chin lift, he looks exactly the same. So funny. That's so funny. It is so funny that he just was like so unbothered by this whole situation.

Kelli (28:51.7)
Yes. She he really did.

Yeah.

Wendy (29:04.52)
I I was listen, the fact that Zack showed back up there and that he was okay with everybody. They all have a good time back there. Then it's time to leave. Danny's the first one on the bus with Nia, and Danny is not feeling well, and he wants to go lay down in the back seat of the bus because

He's had a little too much to drink and I guess he needs to lay down. listen, as someone who drinks too much, that's what I need to do when I drink too much. I need to lay down. Right? So

Kelli (29:37.647)
Absolutely, absolutely. Yes. And I'm sure they thought I I'm sure they never thought that everybody was getting on the same bus to go home. There's always multiple vehicles. I'm not trying to make excuses for him, but I wouldn't have thought that everybody was gonna pack into that one bus. Or van, whatever they were on.

Wendy (29:50.137)
No

I totally agree.

Wendy (30:00.196)
No, I wouldn't have either. I would not have either. Right. I would not it was a sp I think it was a sprinter van. I would have not either. So Danny's laying down in the back and he's not feeling well. And he's like, he's like, like, what are we waiting for? Like, let's go. Is Aliku's on the bus? Like and at this point, I think he said, I hope Janice's not on the bus. And she wasn't on the bus yet. And then Lala starts yelling at Daniel, we need to fit everybody on the bus. He can't lay down.

They need all the seats and then he starts yelling, Who's yelling at me?

it just it just it went downhill from there. It went downhill from there. It did. So Nia moves, me Nia's like, okay, there's seats up in the front. She's I'll move to the back. So I'll give up my seat. I'll move to the back with Danny. And Danny's like yelling at her, let me put my legs on you. And she was totally fine with it. But listen, he was drunk and it was a little bit belligerent. And

Kelli (30:36.354)
Yeah, it got it it took a turn. It went downhill from there.

Kelli (31:01.474)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (31:02.414)
Everyone's mic was on, but they were only playing Danny's mic. We couldn't hear what anyone else was saying. We could only hear Danny's mic, which is producers being fucking assholes. And he was being an he was being an asshole to Nia and she was okay with it and dealing with it. But again, that's all we could hear because we don't know what else was going on in everyone else's mic.

Kelli (31:06.018)
Yeah. Mm mm.

Kelli (31:11.884)
Yep, totally agree.

Wendy (31:25.3)
and even the fact that Janice on the bus and she has to pee so bad and Jasmine says we'll just pee in the cup and they give her a cup to pee in right? Like why is not why is that not something that was disgusting. That was absolutely disgusting.

Kelli (31:31.434)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:35.886)
El That was gross.

Totally disgusting.

Yeah.

Wendy (31:48.857)
I I listen, Janet cannot do any any good in my book. It was disgusting. Zach announces that this is one of his favorite birthdays ever. And then Danny realizes that now it's his birthday because it's after midnight, and he's like, Happy birthday to me, and he's like jumps up on the bus and is like, Happy birthday to me. And then we see next yep. Then we we see next o episode.

Kelli (31:51.042)
Yeah, that was gross. No.

Kelli (32:12.206)
Total attitude adjustment.

Wendy (32:18.886)
Twenty four hours later, we're gonna see Michelle and Lacey have a conversation. Michelle is saying that when we were married, I wanted I wanted so I wanted love from him and he never gave it to me. Janet is talking to Lala, crying and saying the anger I have, especially towards men, I can't apologize to that man. Okay. That's your fucking problem, not his. That's your problem, Janet. Deal with your own shit. Don't don't push that on Danny. Don't

Kelli (32:42.54)
Right right right.

Project it onto other people. Right. And again, where was this energy for Jax? The guy you fucking were ride or die for for the first two seasons of the show. Who was physically and verbally and mentally abusing his wife to the point where his and a cocaine addict. Like, get the F out of here.

Wendy (32:47.994)
Push that on Danny. Yes. Right. Jesse is

Wendy (32:55.951)
Right.

Wendy (32:59.356)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (33:07.164)
Who was a cocaine addict?

Kelli (33:16.096)
It served you to not be triggered by Jax. It serves you now to be triggered by Danny. Get out of here.

Wendy (33:16.774)
Agree.

I totally agree with you.

Wendy (33:25.156)
I totally agree. Then we see jet

Kelli (33:26.764)
You are she's the worst person on she is not meant for reality TV. She has fumbled this so poorly. She's not even a good villain. Like you're j she's just not good reality TV. I know it was your lifelong dream. I know you stalked Sheena Shea. You're just not meant for it, girl.

Wendy (33:43.312)
She's not.

Kelli (33:50.946)
Go back to whatever you were doing before you started this.

Wendy (33:51.281)
I don't usually agree with you. This I agree with you one hundred percent. You kn you know, you and I don't normally agree on things. This I one hundred percent agree with you. Janet does not need to be on the show. She is no good for this show. She really isn't.

Kelli (33:59.085)
Yeah.

Kelli (34:03.19)
No. She's not good reality TV. Like what what does Andy Cohen always say? Like when you love to hate them, but when you hate to hate them, that's when it's a problem. We hate to hate her. She's got she's gotta go. She's bad reality TV, man. Get rid of her, bring Sheena on. Cause now I'm I'm ready 'cause now La La Dunn pissed me off this this season. Like I I don't like the

Wendy (34:22.917)
Wendy (34:28.166)
She did me too. I agree with you.

Kelli (34:32.76)
you know, the r doing Janet's dirty work, doing you know, just the whole blindly loyal to you know, Michelle, Janet, I don't I don't like it. So now I want Sheena Shea on and I want this whole thing to blow up. We need to know what's going on.

Wendy (34:44.112)
Yes.

Wendy (34:56.058)
I totally agree. And I don't know anyone who go toes with Lala better than Sheena, to be quite honest with you. Because she knows where all the bodies are buried. Right? They both do. The two of them. They both do. So I'm here for that.

Kelli (35:00.906)
Exactly. Exactly. Let's do it. Yep. Yep. They both do. Yeah. We need to say it. Mm-hmm. I saw Sheena was with somebody. Was she in the Hamptons? Bethany Frankel was with the summer house crew in the Hamptons and there was some Southern Charm Southern Hospitality people in there and I believe Ava Dash.

Wendy (35:13.327)
I agree with you.

Kelli (35:28.135)
but I feel like Sheena was just with somebody and I was like, that's I know, I know. She shows up everywhere.

Wendy (35:28.536)
Would not surprise me. Would not surprise me. I mean Sheena just pops up wherever. It would not surprise me. Listen, I'm here for it. I'm here to see some Sheena Shea stir some stuff up. I am. I am. I really am.

Kelli (35:43.02)
Yeah. Yeah.

Me too. I I I I'd like to see it.

Wendy (35:47.108)
I don't I don't like I don't like that Jesse tells Kristen that Luke literally said to me, I don't see a wedding happening.

Kelli (35:54.031)
I don't like that either because that's not it's it's a twist on his words. And that's you know, this is a couple who's trying to do it the right way. So y d we don't twist their words.

Wendy (36:02.011)
Yes.

Wendy (36:07.59)
Yes.

Wendy (36:12.282)
No. And then the next thing we see is Lala is screaming at Nia with Danny standing behind her. And Nia is saying, I want you to talk to me. So she is blocking Lala from talking directly to Danny. And you know what? I am so here for this. I cannot wait. I cannot wait to see this. I really can't. I really listen, Nia.

Kelli (36:31.064)
Absolutely.

Wendy (36:38.872)
I like Nia. I like everything about her. I really do. I like Nia.

Kelli (36:42.104)
The thing is is that Lala knows that Danny is in a position where he can't fight back with her. He has to watch every fucking movie he makes, everything he says, everything he does. He's not in a position to stand up for himself the way he otherwise would be able to. Nia is. And Nia's not gonna back down.

Wendy (36:50.586)
No he can't. He can't.

Wendy (37:02.554)
Right. Ne is. No, no she's not. No she's not.

Kelli (37:06.636)
So this is gonna be really good and I hope she eats Lala up because I don't know who Lala thinks she is. I listen, I couldn't be more happy for you that you're in recovery. I think that's amazing what she's done.

But that's you.

And that doesn't mean that everybody around you has a problem. And it doesn't mean that you get to judge everybody around you.

Wendy (37:25.924)
I totally agree with you.

I so agree with you.

Kelli (37:35.05)
I don't think Danny should drink. You and I've had this conversation, and I think one day Danny will come to the realization that he shouldn't drink. But that's not for Lala to Nope. Nope.

Wendy (37:43.175)
Yeah. But it's not for Lala to say. It's not for her to say. And I listen to her podcast and I I listen. I I don't know why. I listen 'cause I want to hear what she has to say. But the most interesting podcasts I hear are her and Amber, which is Randall's ex. And the two of them the two of them are close as can be. They are spending Fourth of July together. Lala was flying her entire family to her place,

Kelli (37:55.918)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (38:12.6)
I don't know where she lives. She lives in the Midwest somewhere. Her mom, her daughters, both her daughters, who are stepsisters to her Amber's Amber's daughters, right? Because Randall's their father. And Amber's in recovery now. Lala's in recovery now. But they weren't always in recovery. And they need to realize that.

Kelli (38:23.724)
Right. Right.

Kelli (38:35.127)
Right.

Wendy (38:39.664)
Their reality isn't everybody else's reality because they were both involved.

Kelli (38:42.582)
And Lala was screwing Amber's husband when she was still married to him. So let's not forget.

Wendy (38:47.194)
Yep. Right. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. She's no innocent.

Kelli (38:50.124)
Let's not forget.

Everyone does things that are self serving.

Kelli (39:00.182)
And then you realize what you're doing and you remedy it. And good for her for doing that. And listen she got handed a raw deal, Randall's a douchebag. But doesn't mean everybody else is a douchebag too. And if you get triggered, that's on you. Me too. I'm totally Team Nee and Danny.

Wendy (39:00.273)
Yeah.

Wendy (39:13.904)
That's right. I'm team Nia and Danny. I'm team I'm team and honestly, I never thought I would say this, but I'm team Jesse and Lacey too. And I don't have a problem with Michelle. Like I'm okay with Michelle. Like she just needs to get on board with whatever's happening. I like Kristen, I like Luke. Brittany's fine, but Britney needs to get she needs to stop projecting her bullshit too. She's another one who's projecting her bullshit who still hasn't figured out her own house.

She's still going after toxic situations. So don't go judging others when you have a five year old son that you need to protect and worry about his well being before you start judging other people's. Like get that shit together.

Kelli (39:43.307)
Exactly.

Kelli (39:46.765)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:54.157)
Right.

Right. Right. And she should probably stop drinking too, Brittany.

Wendy (40:00.09)
That's that's where I'm at with that.

Hundred percent she should.

Kelli (40:06.328)
But not for me to say.

Wendy (40:07.908)
All right. We'll have to wait and see what happens. So this was season three, episode fourteen. I don't I don't know how many more episodes we're gonna have, but I do know that they did film the reunion, so maybe we'll have another episode and then we'll start the reunion, hopefully.

Kelli (40:23.298)
Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm sure there's not many more. I'm sure we're almost down. So all right.

Wendy (40:28.794)
Yeah.

Wendy (40:32.942)
Alright, so until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five-star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (40:40.44)
Bye.