The Valley-From Coyote Ugly to Maui Messy

Wendy (00:00.954)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy. We are talking about The Valley, Season 2, Episode Number 11. This one is called El Coyote Ugly, which I guess was the name of the restaurant that they went to.

Kelli (00:03.658)
I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:16.94)
Yeah, I think El Coyote was the restaurant.

Wendy (00:19.52)
I guess I thought it was Coyote Ugly because of the...

Kelli (00:23.278)
I think it was El Coyote and then they just added the ugly because of the behavior and the movie.

Wendy (00:27.288)
Ugly. Yes. Okay. Well, that makes sense. That makes sense. So we start out at Kristen and Luke's house. I did not realize that they bought a house. Okay. Cause Luke said that.

Kelli (00:38.626)
Well, they're renting it. We saw them, remember they have that house warming?

Wendy (00:43.982)
I know I remember the house warming but I like I it's it's just rented it's not bought.

Kelli (00:49.314)
I think they rented it. Yeah, cause he's kind of like, he wants to like split their time, I think was what she said last season. Like he doesn't love LA, although he said in this conversation, this house makes him like it more, but he's from, I think like the Midwest or something. Like he's like an outdoors guy. So he wants to split their time.

Wendy (00:50.958)
Okay.

Wendy (01:01.636)
He doesn't. Yes. Yes.

Wendy (01:11.408)
He does, yes, but I was glad to hear that he's changed his perspective and made it possible raising children in LA. I didn't watch that much of it, but I started watching a little bit of the watch party that Kristen was doing for the McBee dynasty. And she had, I just watched a couple minutes of it, but she had said in that that Luke actually owns 70 acres of land. I knew he owned land.

Kelli (01:20.899)
right.

Kelli (01:31.389)
yeah, I didn't watch it.

Wendy (01:41.296)
but he owns 70, wherever he's from in the Midwest, he owns 70 acres.

Kelli (01:41.463)
Wow.

Kelli (01:46.998)
So no wonder he wants to split his time. mean, you know, he's sitting on a nice piece of property. He can do anything he wants with that. And how cool would that be with a little kid?

Wendy (01:49.508)
Yeah.

Wendy (01:54.958)
Right. Yeah.

Right, absolutely. Listen, when I first met, I didn't either. When I first met Luke, I really did not like him, but I really didn't like Kristen either. But as the valley's going on, I don't hate Kristen anymore. I've grown to like her. And Luke, just as much. I've grown to like Luke too. I feel like he is a mature, sensible person, which is...

Kelli (02:01.22)
wow, I did not know that.

Kelli (02:08.355)
Right.

Kelli (02:14.336)
I know.

Me too.

Wendy (02:26.0)
in these TV shows lately, right? These reality shows.

Kelli (02:29.78)
It is, and it's interesting because, know, Kristen's been doing reality TV for so long. So she and Jax obviously know the formula. But they're both following it very differently. Like, she'll get into it when she needs to get into it. Like with the Janet and Jason ring thing. You know, but she's not doing what Jax is doing. I mean, I don't even...

Wendy (02:38.554)
Yeah.

Wendy (02:42.234)
Yes, they are.

Wendy (02:50.138)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (02:56.302)
I don't even know if Jax is doing anything on purpose to make good TV. I think Jax is just a fucking disaster. And yeah, and people think that's good TV. I don't, I don't like seeing, I would prefer Jax to not be on the show, but I know I'm in the minority. I I listened to Two Tees and a Pod and Tamara and Teddy were like, he is the show, it is his show.

Wendy (03:06.212)
I think so too.

Kelli (03:23.712)
I don't personally agree with that, but I know a lot of people do.

Wendy (03:26.776)
I don't agree with that either. I think that they can have the show without Jax. I don't think it's his show.

Kelli (03:28.354)
Mm-mm.

Kelli (03:32.802)
I mean, Vanderpump went on without him. Vanderpump didn't fold without him.

Wendy (03:36.526)
Right. Yeah, I agree. mean, Luke, even in his confessional says that he's not going anywhere and he's there for the long haul, which I was really glad to hear that. Then we see Nia and Danny, meeting up with Zach and Benji. Zach admits that he enjoys having Benji around because he has someone there to cook for him because he's not very good at cooking for himself. I mean, I know that's not the only reason he's happy to have Benji around, but it's just a little added bonus.

Kelli (04:03.286)
Right, Yeah.

Wendy (04:06.672)
And he says to Zach, like, we know you already know about what's going on. you know, like, she's like, how did you, like, how did you figure it out? And he's like, well, I kind of like watched the signs and, you know, Kristen and I have been best friends for a long time. So it makes sense, right? It makes sense. So she asks them if they can invite Janet and Jason to Hawaii, because obviously it's not going to be sincere coming from them because they're not even really speaking at this point.

Kelli (04:22.764)
It totally makes sense, yeah.

Kelli (04:35.404)
Right. Honestly, I don't think they should have. I think they should have left Janet and Jason out of it, just like Janet and Jason left Kristen and Zach out of Big Bear last year. It's a group trip that Danny and Nia are supposedly planning. Janet and Jason aren't good with them. It's really about Kristen and Luke getting engaged. Janet and Jason aren't good with them. And Zach is supposed to be the co-host of the trip.

Wendy (04:36.858)
Stop.

Kelli (05:03.712)
and they're not getting along with him either. They should have just cut them out of the damn trip.

Wendy (05:09.136)
I don't think that they, I don't agree with you on that. I think it is a cash trip and I think the entire cash should be invited. I mean, we didn't like when they left Zach, just because they, two wrongs don't make it right. Just because they left out Zach and Kristin. You are sometimes. I know. We've always said if it's a cash trip, the whole cash should be invited. And I stand by that.

Kelli (05:20.789)
I know, I'm very immature though.

I really am.

Kelli (05:35.246)
I just hate her. We were talking about it at the salon yesterday. So the one stylist Meg was like, I'm not caught up yet. I'm like, you get caught up, because you're going to want to go to LA and hunt down Janet. And I'm totally with you.

Wendy (05:51.628)
Okay, you are so funny.

Kelli (05:52.728)
So she texted me last night, she's like, I'm watching it now. I'm like, are you ready to go to LA? Are we doing this? Just kidding, that's not a threat, Janet. I know you said you're getting threats, so that's not a threat. Just kidding.

Wendy (05:56.336)
Are we booking our flights?

No, it's not.

Wendy (06:10.626)
So funny. So then we are at Jesse's house and Scott, the life coach is there. Again, Jesse's front door, just blows my mind. Nobody can figure out how to open it. Nobody. Nobody. So he's going to be doing with Jack, Stanny, Jesse and Luke.

Kelli (06:27.37)
No, no, no.

Wendy (06:35.746)
he's gonna be doing like a men's mental health circle, like this healing circle. And Scott told Jessie about it and Jessie's like, this is a really good idea. We're not all getting along and this would be, this would be good for us to do. So Danny says, I'm glad that this is happening because we're still going on this trip together. And then Jackson announces that I'm not going. We know Jackson's not going. By the way,

Jax keeps announcing that he's not going because he wants to stay home and cruise. My thought is Jax is not going because production told him he cannot go. I am sure production told Jax, you are not going because Brittany is going and she does not feel safe or comfortable with you there and you're not going.

Kelli (07:11.95)
Totally agree with you.

Kelli (07:22.294)
And you're supposed to be in recovery and this is like a party trip.

Wendy (07:27.426)
Well, it's, mean, you can go and be sober, but he can't. No, he can't. Which by the way, I did look up the whole sobriety thing. So he did go to the first rehab for 30 days. He did finish his 30 days and then he came out and then he had another incident in the car, which we heard about on the way to the doctor's office because he was, you know, coming down off a coke from the night before.

Kelli (07:32.183)
He can't.

Wendy (07:55.692)
And he saw the text message from Julian and like lost it. So that's when Brittany again called producers and is like, he's got to go. And he didn't fight. said, okay, I'm going to go. And he went and he signed himself in and then he left one day later, but then he went back and he wound up staying 17 days. And everyone has admitted that the 17 days did him better than the first 30. Everyone has, everyone on the cast, Jax included.

Kelli (08:12.686)
17 days.

Wendy (08:25.888)
said that the first 30 days he didn't get his... That is a very good question. That I do not know. That the first 30 days he did not get out. I mean, obviously he didn't. If he comes out and he's drinking, he tells us that he's got a cocaine problem and... Right.

Kelli (08:28.76)
I wonder if you went to a different place.

Kelli (08:46.356)
No, that yes, and the fact that he was rage texting everybody while he was in the facility. That place was just placating him wherever he was. So hopefully the second time around was a better fit.

Wendy (08:54.607)
Right.

Wendy (09:04.11)
Right, hopefully, I can't imagine it was the same place, right? I can't. Why?

Kelli (09:07.468)
I mean, why go back to a place that didn't help you? Because it didn't help you.

Wendy (09:11.662)
Right, right. So, and I do believe based on the things that I've seen, I do believe he is sober right now. Like currently as we speak, since the last time we saw him on Watch What Happens Live, I think he was sober then.

Kelli (09:25.166)
Yeah. So when he gave the number of days that he was clean, the last, when he was on Watch What Happens Live, is that from the second, the time he left from the second stay? Okay. All right. So hopefully that's true.

Wendy (09:36.272)
That is what I think. Yes. That's what I believe from this from the second stay. Yes And you know, he's been maintaining that this is the first time He's been sober from these things in over 10 years Probably 20 because he's been doing this a long time He's doing this a long time So Scott says, you know, we can carry resentment and we can carry

Kelli (09:51.584)
Right. Right.

Wendy (10:05.838)
things and it's called a list. He goes, but what I want you to do is I want you to clear this list with the people here that you need to clear the list with. So I want you to stand up and I want you to put your hand on the chest of the person you want to clear this list with and then speak to them. And Jesse's like, I I invited you here, so I guess I'll go first. And he's like, I would like to start with Luke. Okay. That was a softball.

Kelli (10:36.128)
It was a softball and I didn't even really understand it.

Wendy (10:39.452)
No, was there was nothing to understand. It was just him going through the motions because he because he chose Luke who you know, he put his hand on his chest. Exactly. It was just him going through the motions, you know.

Kelli (10:48.705)
He has no beef with.

And he says something about blind loyalty to his girlfriend. Of course he has blind loyalty to his girlfriend. If he didn't, he'd be an asshole.

Wendy (10:59.032)
Right, and he's referring to the whole situation when, you know, Kristen was yelling that she's been cheating on you. Right, she's, right, right. And he said, you know, it made me feel mad and it made me feel aggressive and I'm willing to let that go. Okay, that was the biggest bunch of bullshit. Like that was just, that was play, that wasn't real. So then Jax is like, okay, so basically you just sit here and clear your list.

Kelli (11:03.514)
and she had a boyfriend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (11:20.44)
For sure. For sure.

Wendy (11:27.47)
of everyone and know Scott's like, no, no, that's no. He's like, but I can hold a place for everyone if you want. Like I will be your stand in. So Jack's like, okay. So Scott's like, okay, put your hand on my chest. And I don't know if you noticed, but Jack's put his hand on his shoulder, on Scott's shoulder, not on his chest. So was like, he can't even get, like it's the simple instruction. Put your hand on my chest. Okay. Puts his hand on his shoulder.

Kelli (11:53.741)
my.

I did not notice that, but that's hysterical. Hysterical.

Wendy (11:58.256)
So Scott says, you know, look, look in my eyes and Jack, Jack starts crying. He's like, you know, I'm having a really hard time in my life. I'm a very, I'm very angry human being. I've been like this my whole life. I, I take this out on everybody, especially my wife who's not here. I don't want to do this anymore. and Scott's right.

Kelli (12:24.952)
We've heard this before. We've heard him say, don't wanna do this anymore so many times.

Wendy (12:26.874)
Absolutely we've heard this before.

Wendy (12:33.134)
Yep. Yep. And then Scott says, listen, know, people, people like are watching you and they like to see a redemption story. You know, they'd like to see that little boy in you like come back. like, don't give up, like, you know, kind of trying to hype them up that I think it's interesting that he said, you know, people are watching you. That's all Jack's wants. I mean, this is a show, right? And, and, and they like a redemption story. Okay. Well,

Kelli (12:55.086)
Of course. Of course, of course it is.

Wendy (13:00.534)
As soon as he said those words, Jax was like, I'm in. Like, this is what I'm here for. Right?

Kelli (13:04.802)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (13:09.146)
So then Danny says, like, I'll go next. And he goes up to Jason and he puts his hand on his chest and he says, you know, I love you. I didn't show it last week. I said some things to your wife that I didn't mean. And I feel really bad for saying those things. And they hug. Jason says, like, I'm not sure I'm fully ready to let everything go, but.

Kelli (13:32.098)
yet Jason's like, I'm gonna have to go home and see what Janet thinks about this. whatever Janet tells me to do is basically how I'll feel. So I'll call you in about an hour or two. Let you know where we stand.

Wendy (13:35.0)
Right. Right.

Wendy (13:43.384)
Right. I mean, right. That's what he meant to say, but that's not what he said. I mean, we know that because we can read between the lines with Jason, right?

Kelli (13:50.574)
For sure. Yep.

Wendy (13:54.064)
And then Jason says, well, me and my wife's relationship with Danny and me is not really repaired yet. Jesse said that Danny, I'm surprised that Jesse said that, is hiding his drinking.

Kelli (14:05.112)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:06.16)
Scott says, by hiding your drinking, like what does that mean? Like you go to the bar and you like order three drinks, but you only come back with one. So it looks like you've only had one. And Danny says, I've done that. I was like, good for you Danny.

Kelli (14:20.375)
Yeah.

I was surprised he admitted it. I'm glad he admitted it.

Wendy (14:25.762)
Me too. Me too.

Kelli (14:28.534)
I mean, listen, that does show that he has some kind of unhealthy relationship with alcohol.

Wendy (14:35.374)
Yes, it does. It does. I think that

Kelli (14:37.398)
It doesn't mean he's a full-blown alcoholic and needs rehab like Jax though.

Wendy (14:42.326)
No, but it does mean that he needs to reevaluate it. And I know he has said in the past, yeah, he has said in the past that, you know, him and his wife have, you know, open communication. And when she says it's a problem, I've addressed it and I've stopped. And he's been able to do that on his own. So it seems to me like he's at that place again and he's admitting it to them. And I honestly, give, I've liked Danny from the beginning.

Kelli (14:45.942)
Yes, and make better choices.

Kelli (14:57.58)
Right, right.

Wendy (15:11.962)
But I give him a lot of credit for being so vulnerable with these guys and, you know, being truthful.

Kelli (15:11.982)
Yes.

Kelli (15:18.316)
Right, I totally agree.

Wendy (15:22.064)
Wendy (15:25.848)
Jason admits that Danny admitting this is a huge step forward.

You know, this whole thing is kind of over now at this point. Then we cut to the girls are over at the El Coyote bar. And it's everybody. It's Jasmine, Nia, Melissa, Sheena, Brittany, Janet, Michelle and Kristen. I don't think we've seen them all together yet this whole season, right?

Kelli (15:49.686)
maybe at the housewarming party and maybe at Jessie's, but there was no scene with all, they might have all been there, but there was no scene with all of them there.

Wendy (15:53.924)
think so.

I don't think they were. I think there was always somebody missing. I think that there was always somebody missing at those, at those places.

Kelli (16:05.462)
And even the beach. The beach they weren't all there because Nia wasn't at the beach. Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (16:08.152)
Yeah. So Nia admits that her and Janet are not good. And Nia announces that they have this Hawaii trip coming up and that they, we also find out that Aaron is going to be coming. Michelle announces that Aaron's coming on this trip. Michelle says she thinks that if Aaron's there, maybe Jesse won't act up as much. I mean, that is wishful thinking, Michelle.

Kelli (16:24.803)
Yes.

Kelli (16:32.622)
That is, you are not right. You are not correct on that.

Wendy (16:36.334)
I mean, you were married to him. You know who he is.

Kelli (16:41.932)
Yeah, it's probably going to be worse.

Wendy (16:44.067)
Yeah.

Wendy (16:50.604)
Michelle says, before we move forward, it's come to my attention that people keep talking about my boyfriend and the people that he slept with in the past. And she's directing this towards Kristin. Like she's looking at Kristin and directing it towards Kristin. when Kristin, Kristin didn't really have anything to do with this. I mean, yes, Jenna was.

Kelli (17:08.63)
No! Because that first happened at the housewarming party. it was Kristen and Luke's housewarming party, so maybe she's blaming them for bringing Jenna into the... I mean, that is the first time we saw a Jenna film, though.

Wendy (17:14.656)
Right. Yes, but it.

Wendy (17:23.492)
That is the first time we saw Jenna film, but it was Zach and Zach admits it in his confessional. Zach is the one who brought it to Jesse's attention. Although Jenna was there at Kristin's party, because Kristin is friends with Jenna. It was Zach that did it. And he said, no, he said it was me. Jenna jumps in and says, well, you went behind Michelle's back and said that she was a cheater.

Kelli (17:28.074)
right, Zack did admit it, yes.

Yes.

Kelli (17:38.093)
Yes.

And he did admit it, you're right.

Wendy (17:51.63)
And then that's when Kristen says to Janet, like, why are you getting involved? And I agree, why was she getting involved?

Kelli (17:58.338)
because she's an asshole. And she has studied reality TV because she has desperately, thirstily wanted to be on it. she, no, I just pulled a lorry.

Wendy (18:00.206)
Yeah.

Wendy (18:08.41)
Is that a word? Okay.

Kelli (18:14.478)
I'm drinking tonight.

Wendy (18:16.161)
Good for you. Good for you.

Kelli (18:19.182)
And she studied it and she thinks she knows what she has to do to become a great reality TV star. Meanwhile, everyone in America hates you, Janet. And once this show goes beyond America, everybody in those countries are gonna hate you too. So, I mean, I don't know. You might wanna reevaluate your formula.

Wendy (18:42.958)
Yeah, does not help when she opens her mouth. But then Michelle goes on to say, listen, my ex husband hates me and he's trying to ruin me, which I do understand. I do believe that that is true. do believe that Jesse, mean, Jesse has said it. Anything he could do to make her miserable. I mean, he does things purposely to annoy her and make her miserable on purpose. So Kristen says, listen, I will not bring Jenna around anymore. know, if I know that you guys, I won't bring her.

Kelli (18:58.594)
Yeah. absolutely. Yeah.

Wendy (19:12.044)
No big deal and Janet once again jumps in. Well, you already did Okay. Well, we can't change the past now Janet. Can we?

Kelli (19:19.55)
Even Brittany was telling Janet to stop. Even Brittany was like, all right, Janet, enough.

Wendy (19:22.158)
Yes.

Yes, exactly. So Jen, Kristen then said, this is a conversation that Michelle and I could have had without you getting involved. And Janet says, Janet starts getting very loud and says, someone needs to hold you. And she's like, accountable. Like she's like singing it. A word that you can't stand, really obnoxious. mean, she was like out of control obnoxious. It turns out that she was really drunk, they were saying.

Kelli (19:47.788)
Yeah, like was she drunk? Not that that's an excuse. she was. That's right. That's right.

Wendy (19:54.714)
that it turns out that she was very, very drunk. But still, right. Right.

Kelli (19:57.94)
Interesting. So is this Dark Janet? Is this Dark Janney? Shall we call her?

Wendy (20:04.514)
Yeah, yes. And yeah, she was so obnoxious. That's when Brittany's like, yep, Brittany says, come on, Janet. Kristen says, I'm being disrespected as fuck right now and I'm not having it. So she says, I'm out. And I don't blame her. I don't blame her.

Kelli (20:11.256)
She was way too obnoxious.

Kelli (20:20.046)
Mm-hmm. I don't blame her either.

Wendy (20:24.496)
So Janet yells, see you make sure you get your to go box. Again, you did not have to say that. Meanwhile, she's saying goodbye to Nia. Nia is visibly upset. Nia starts crying. I think it was Sheena that looked over at Nia and said, are you okay? And then Janet's yelling.

Kelli (20:31.17)
Like shut the fuck up.

No.

Wendy (20:56.93)
No, Kristen's yelling, I'm done, I'm fucking done. This is not even... It's just too much. It's too intense.

Kelli (21:00.448)
And Nia was saying, it's just too much. She's crying and saying, it's just too much. And Janet's like, yeah, it's too intense. And Janet's like, every time it gets too intense, you cry. like, honestly, I would have had, now I listen to Dolores and Tamara talk about this.

Wendy (21:08.783)
Yeah.

Kelli (21:23.254)
And I do somewhat agree with Dolores, like you're getting paid to be there, finish the scene. You can't get up and walk away. However, on Jersey, if this happened, shit would have been flying, possibly fists. I got like a little anxious watching this, because I was thinking if somebody, if Janet, if I was crying, visibly upset, and Janet was acting like that,

I would have fucking popped her right in the face. Popped her right in the face. I would have been kicked off the show. That would have been it for me. I mean, but I see why Kristen and Nia left because it's not them.

Wendy (21:54.786)
no, would, you absolutely would. You absolutely would. Yeah.

Wendy (22:07.034)
I did it.

I do too. It's not them. And you know, I heard Delores say that. I don't necessarily agree with her. I don't think you have to take, it doesn't have to go to the conclusion of violence, because that's what would happen.

Kelli (22:20.95)
Right, but because she's Jersey and Tamra's OC, that's where both those shows probably would have led to.

Wendy (22:25.187)
Right.

That's where they go to. But the other thing is the fact that Janet was so trashed leads me to believe that this was many hours in. They weren't just like.

Kelli (22:37.646)
had to be, unless she pre-gamed somewhere.

Wendy (22:41.454)
I mean, she could have, but she kept saying that what was in these margaritas, they were so strong. And then they did, I think they did shots of tequila there too. I think they were there for quite some time. And I think that it was wrapping up at this point and it wasn't gonna, it just wasn't gonna end well. And I think what they did was, I personally think what they did was fine. Nia, when Nia walks out, she, you know, she says to her, fuck you, Janet, right? They were talking about that.

Kelli (22:50.989)
Yeah.

Kelli (23:00.3)
Yeah, I mean, for them, yes.

Kelli (23:09.9)
And even Kristin, like, Kristin's in a place where she wants to start a family. listen, we've seen Kristin pop off plenty of times on reality TV. The fact that she didn't shows huge growth in this woman. Huge growth.

Wendy (23:19.242)
Mm-hmm. yeah. Right.

Yes, yes, absolutely, absolutely.

So they leave, right? I think everyone else left after that too, because nobody, we didn't see anything else. There was nothing else going on. The next scene they give us is they're all doing this field day together. I mean, seriously, could we have not cut out the field day scene? What in that field day scene did we need to see? Was it that Jenna showed up as the referee? Is that what we needed to see? Seriously.

Kelli (23:42.68)
So weird.

Kelli (23:52.696)
I think so. And the fact that Jasmine and Melissa were hosting it and Jenna showed up.

So now it's Jasmine bringing Jenna into the group.

Wendy (24:07.824)
Yeah, because Jasmine admitted that she asked her to referee it before she knew about the whole issue.

Kelli (24:15.276)
Jenna is the new Joe. Jenna is the new Vanderpump Joe.

Wendy (24:20.376)
Yeah, right.

Kelli (24:20.696)
you know, Schwartz's friend.

Wendy (24:24.184)
Yes. So the stupid field day, mean, I really, I don't even want to talk about it, but I'll just give you it. The referees are Sheena and Jenna. There's a red team and a purple team. The red team is Jasmine, Britt, Brock, Benji, Zach, Danny, Michelle, and Nia. The purple team is Melissa, Janet, Kristen, Jack, Jesse, Jason, and Luke. Okay.

Kelli (24:32.183)
I know.

Kelli (24:48.43)
don't even have notes on field day. I have Jasmine, Melissa, Zach, and Benji host field day. And then I go to Luke drops off the gecko.

Wendy (24:57.25)
Okay, well there was two challenges. There was two challenges. One was the egg toss challenge, where they spin around on the bat three times and then they run the egg. There's no tossing the egg. I don't know why they're calling it the egg toss challenge. And the next was the tug of war. Red team won both challenges. That was it. That was the field day. It was the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever seen in my life. Seriously.

Kelli (25:00.376)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:09.964)
Right, right.

Kelli (25:15.66)
Right, that was it.

Yeah, you know what it probably was? It was probably Jasmine and Zach just trying to get like a, you know, just host something so they get some air time. Cause they kind of are like friends of, right?

Wendy (25:34.254)
But they're not, in the full cast photo.

Kelli (25:36.766)
I know, but they're so, like they don't focus on them enough. So that's probably their way of trying to be focused on, but it was kind of a flop. I love a good field day. We still have to plan that, our beer Olympics with the boys, but this one kind of fell flat. It was just weird because nobody's getting along.

Wendy (25:52.506)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (25:58.956)
Yeah, and it made no sense. It just made no sense. So like you said, then we see Luke goes to Kyle Chan's to drop off the get go and pick up the ring.

Kelli (26:01.56)
Mm-mm.

Kelli (26:09.676)
Was Jackson Field?

Wendy (26:11.918)
Yeah, Jax was at Field Day. Yeah, because I didn't say this, but the producer asked Britt if she had heard from Jax since he was served. And she said, texted me and he said he didn't expect it, but he understood it. So that's how it was addressed. And he was there, but they didn't interact.

Kelli (26:12.684)
Okay. Okay.

Kelli (26:27.404)
And she did, I do have that Brittany told Janet that she's still happy with what she did, but she's sad. Which, you know, we've talked about this. It's probably just, it's not, she doesn't miss him because he's a monster, but she misses her family unit.

Wendy (26:31.938)
Yes. Yeah.

Wendy (26:43.768)
Right. She's sad for what could have been, which will never be. And Jack's also at the field day does go up to Kristen and thanks Kristen for being so nice to him at Jesse's house. Which again, that's growth right there too. Right.

Kelli (26:45.952)
Exactly. Exactly.

Kelli (26:54.636)
Yes, yes he did. Growth, for sure. Jack should try it.

Wendy (27:02.722)
So when Luke gets the ring, he lets Kyle Chen know that they're going to visit his grandma because she has cancer and she's not doing well. And you could see how upset he was about that. I think he's nervous about getting engaged. She's upset about his grandmother. He's got a lot on his mind right now. He's got a lot going on. He's got a lot going on.

Kelli (27:18.125)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:25.464)
Yeah.

Wendy (27:29.634)
Next we see Jax is sitting at the restaurant waiting for Britt and he orders his coffee and his diet coke.

Have you seen those Facebook pages where they're like, like people are like pro-Jax? my God, there's whole, my God, there's whole Facebook pages where they're like, Jax is getting the short end of the stick, like.

Kelli (27:45.134)
No? I haven't seen any of that.

Kelli (27:53.806)
I have seen, I mean, people have commented on our posts, like, Britney's all she does is party. Listen, I don't think that's fair. I mean, but we really don't know. mean, listen, we only know what these people show us. But I'm gonna say this. I think that Britney's mother seems like a very solid person and she's there a lot helping out with Cruz.

Wendy (27:58.91)
yeah.

Yeah, she needs rehab too.

Wendy (28:22.053)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (28:22.198)
I think if Brittany really had a problem or her partying were getting in the way of her taking care of her child, I think her mom would be stepping in. And I think her mom, not only because she's obviously stepping in, but I think her mom would be bringing some attention to it and possibly trying to get her off the show, out of LA. Like I feel like her mom would be more proactive and we would know about.

Wendy (28:45.55)
Yeah, I don't think that Brittany has a problem. do think that she drinks every now and then. You know, I think that

Kelli (28:51.438)
Listen, there are in a group of friends that like to drink and party. Obviously that's why they're all friends. Obviously that's kind of why they have a show right now. So who knows what she's doing when she's not filming? I mean, when you're filming, this is what you're filming. You guys hanging out. What do you do when you go out with your friends? You eat and drink.

Wendy (28:54.189)
Right.

Wendy (28:58.959)
Right, right.

Wendy (29:09.39)
Right. Yeah, that's what you do. That's what you do.

Kelli (29:13.432)
but I haven't seen any of those pages, that's crazy.

Wendy (29:16.016)
Yeah, it's it is crazy. Yeah, they're like, poor Jax. I can't believe Brittany left him sitting there at the bar. I'm like, what? Yeah. Yep.

Kelli (29:24.398)
That blows me away that we can all be watching this show and see something completely different. understand people if they say that Michelle is annoying, her voice annoys them. I don't understand people who defend Jesse with Michelle. Like you've said before, we see right through him. He is a narcissist. He, like you said earlier, admits to just

Wendy (29:38.488)
Right.

Wendy (29:47.418)
Mm-hmm. Yes.

Kelli (29:53.218)
doing shit to annoy her, to get under her skin. Like, how do you not put two and two together and see that he was the problem in the marriage?

Wendy (29:55.406)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (30:04.252)
But people are still blaming her because she admitted and it's it's just crazy and just like with Jack's like there's people out there like Starting like a pro. I mean listen, it could be another burner account. Maybe it's Jack's doing it. I don't know He could have another burner account doing this but it's just insanity it's insanity and Jackson was actually talking about it on the after show. He was on the after show with Tom Schwartz and Jesse

Kelli (30:07.118)
Totally. Totally.

Kelli (30:19.222)
It's probably, it's Frank Drummond is who it is.

Kelli (30:27.02)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (30:34.104)
And he's like, yeah, I think it's so funny. I have these people fighting for me. They're going back and forth at each other.

Kelli (30:41.11)
It's like a Teresa and Melissa thing at this point.

Wendy (30:44.194)
Yeah. Like the fans are fighting each other. Yeah. And yeah. And that's what's going on. It's, it's insane. It's totally insane.

Kelli (30:47.084)
Yeah, each other, yeah.

Kelli (30:53.324)
Wow.

Wendy (30:54.594)
So he's sitting there waiting for her. He's like, she can never be on time. So he calls her and he's like, you know, are you coming? She's like, no, I'm not coming. And he's like, what? She's like, yeah, because I woke up this morning to all these text messages and DMs and pictures. You were out at the bar last night. You got drunk. You were doing these inappropriate things with all these women. I thought you changed. I'm not coming. No, I'm not coming. I was like, good for her. Good for her.

Kelli (31:18.21)
We need to see pictures. We need to see the DMs. Yeah, I do. I believe it, but I wanna see them. I wanna see the DMs.

Wendy (31:21.818)
Do we though? You don't believe it, I believe it.

Wendy (31:27.383)
okay.

She'll show them. I'm sure Brit will show them.

Kelli (31:30.798)
So he was drinking, but the most important, like whatever with the girls, you're separated and you're screwing his friends. So you got no case there. But he was drinking is the big thing.

Wendy (31:34.565)
Yep.

Wendy (31:43.684)
Right. Yep. And he was drunk is what it wasn't even that he was drinking. He was drunk. And he's like, no, I was home. I was at the bar, but I was home by 11. Okay. Well, I was home by 11.

Kelli (31:54.274)
Yeah, he's driving away. He's like, I don't know what she's talking about. I was home by 11 o'clock. Well, you can still be drunk by 11 o'clock. You know, listen, it's 8.19. The night is young. But I am on my way. So, nope, nope. That's right. And I'm not driving.

Wendy (32:02.352)
What?

Wendy (32:10.446)
There you go. And there's nothing wrong with that. Because you're home and you're safe. And you got no babies to take care of. Right.

Kelli (32:20.886)
and everybody graduated high school in my house.

Wendy (32:22.628)
That's it. That's it. Exactly. Yep. Yep. So then we see they get to Hawaii and Zach finds out that he's been upgraded to the presidential suite and so is Jesse and they're all excited about it until they find out that they're actually sharing the president presidential suite with each other.

Kelli (32:40.108)
I had no idea until Jesse's like, all right, come on guys. No funny business in that shower.

Wendy (32:42.242)
I was like, my God, this is.

Wendy (32:48.569)
So j- But then we find out- no, we didn't find out on the after show. There was two bathrooms.

Kelli (32:53.966)
I said, was, did I write it down? Yeah, I'm like, there has to be another bit, stop it. yeah.

Wendy (33:00.826)
There's two bathrooms. But Zach said that Jesse wouldn't use the other bathroom because that was the bigger one that Benji and Zach were in. So he would only use the bigger one. So Jesse.

Kelli (33:11.786)
He is, he's like such a princess. Yeah.

Wendy (33:14.318)
He's so Jesse, so Jesse.

So they have cabanas reserved. I also thought it was interesting. I do too. I would like to do that.

Kelli (33:23.726)
wanna go to a swim up bar. I wanna go somewhere that has a swim up bar.

We're gonna do this research. Do anywhere in New Jersey have a swim up bar? Probably not.

Wendy (33:34.842)
I bet you there is. You know what? think that there might be. There might be one in Monmouth County, but I don't want to go to one in Monmouth County.

Kelli (33:41.624)
Well, what about the Berkeley Hotel in Asbury, though?

Wendy (33:45.319)
they might have one, you think?

Kelli (33:46.482)
Yeah, we might we should have maybe do a day trip there. Well, we're going to do our our research. I wish seaside I wish that ocean on you know, I wish they Yeah, they don't have a swim up bar, but they have the pool with the cabanas, whatever.

Wendy (33:49.433)
Okay.

Wendy (33:54.967)
Ocean Resort, yeah.

Wendy (33:59.856)
But you can't even get into it unless you're a member. we're SOL there. Yeah, no, we're not members there, sorry. But I don't know if you noticed that Danny and Nia and Michelle and Erin are also sharing a suite.

Kelli (34:03.189)
that's right, you do have to be a member. No, we're not. Exactly.

Kelli (34:14.487)
I didn't notice that.

Wendy (34:15.77)
They're sharing an ocean. They have an oceanfront suite. It's not the presidential suite, but they're also sharing a suite.

Kelli (34:21.656)
So Danny and Nia and Aaron and Michelle. Okay. How do you feel about Aaron?

Wendy (34:23.97)
and Michelle are sharing a suite, yes.

Wendy (34:30.224)
I don't have enough information to make an informed decision. Because I don't like to jump to conclusions. And I don't trust anything Jesse says.

Kelli (34:40.334)
I hear ya. No, no, I would never base anything on what Jessie says. I did think it was interesting that Aaron said to Michelle that maybe all of them can go on a family trip down the road.

Wendy (34:46.096)
B-

Wendy (34:52.226)
Yeah, I mean, I think he's very hopeful. I think he's living in Disneyland there. do, I do, when Scott brought up the word squirrely, I do, I do agree with that word squirrely. And I do agree with that when it comes to Jesse and Jason and Jax and Danny and maybe even Aaron. I do think there's something squirrely, but actually even Zach, I think there's something squirrely about all these men.

Kelli (34:54.37)
High hopes, Aaron, high hopes.

Kelli (35:16.395)
absolutely.

Wendy (35:17.776)
So I don't know. I don't get that feeling with women for some reason. With men, they're squirrely about certain things. They like to keep things like they're not forthright with what actually is happening, right? So I'm going to wait and make a decision on Aaron when I find out more information. We see Jason and.

Kelli (35:27.49)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (35:32.684)
Right, right, not 100%.

Wendy (35:42.448)
Danny are talking in the pool and you know, they're like, yeah, we, you you and I, squashed our beef, but then the ladies the next night, you know, blew it up again. So, so much for that. Cause we, we know Jason can't, can't be friends unless Janet says she can, he can. So they called the girls over so that they can have a conversation and Janet starts out and she says she wants to apologize that she said she had too much to drink. And I love how Nia said,

Kelli (35:53.027)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (35:57.452)
Right, right, right.

Wendy (36:11.524)
that early in the night. I loved, loved, loved that, loved that.

Kelli (36:14.67)
Absolutely. Yep, she's a classy lady.

Wendy (36:18.532)
Janet says, well, those drinks were so strong. She said, I should have never yelled at you. Honestly, I deserved every bit of that fuck you. I was, know, Nia said, I'm sorry that I said that. On the after show, they were talking about that. And Janet actually was saying, first she couldn't remember. She Miss America or Miss USA? Can you believe I got Miss USA to say fuck you? Because she doesn't like to curse on camera.

Kelli (36:45.506)
Yeah, like she's such a bitch.

Wendy (36:47.404)
I'm like, really? Really. And then they brought up how when Danny and Nia were talking at the table at the Sonoma trip, Danny had said something and he said, fuck. And she said, you just cursed while talking to me on national TV. And they brought that clip up. She doesn't like to curse. I respect that. I can respect that. Some people like to curse.

Kelli (37:14.03)
But I'll say this, if that's how you guys talk, then okay, then what does it matter if you're on TV or not? That's how you talk.

Wendy (37:18.778)
Yeah, then talk that way.

Wendy (37:25.23)
I don't think that that's how they talk. Listen, don't think that Nia talks that way. I don't think that she talks. I don't know.

Kelli (37:28.622)
And if he said it, that's how he talks.

Or maybe she doesn't, but if Danny does...

I'm just saying maybe there's a little bit of merit to the other cast members saying just be who you are and don't try to be something else.

Wendy (37:48.696)
I don't think that that applies with her. really think that she tries to put herself at a higher standard and she doesn't like to curse. And she was upset that she did curse. Like that's not who she is. She doesn't like to curse like that. And I kind of, mean, the reason I say this is because I don't particularly like to curse either. Not that I don't, I do. I curse sometimes, I do. I will say my other half curses way more than I do. And that is...

That's just who it's, it's every other word. So if we were happened to be on national TV, I would expect him to be doing that, but I wouldn't expect me to do it, be doing it. I'm not to say that I wouldn't slip out every now and then because I am human and I do drop the F-bomb, but it is not my, in my everyday vocabulary.

I don't know. That's just my thought on that. And by the way, one of our listeners said that you have been dropping the F-bun too many times. And I know you appo- I saw you apologize.

Kelli (38:43.331)
I got you.

Kelli (38:49.006)
I know I saw that. I did. I apologized. It's a very poor habit. Trust me. And listen, my husband and I have this conversation all the time because he drops F-bombs. I feel, well, I shouldn't say that. Anyway, we say the F-word too much and now my kids do. My kids are 21 and 18 and they, mean, I can't even tell you. They say it all the time. And it's terrible.

But that's how we've always talked. They don't do it in front of my parents.

Wendy (39:18.924)
I know. I know.

That's good. Listen, you've said this and I'll say it too, but when you grow up in Jersey, we can blame Jersey for everything. You can blame Jersey for a lot. Like, I mean, this is one of the things we can blame Jersey for, right?

Kelli (39:31.778)
This is how we talk.

For sure. Yeah, this is how we talk, I'm sorry. Like who did we say could never, who did we say? Like if you're offended by that, don't come to Jersey.

Wendy (39:47.781)
It was probably someone from the Valley, right? Wasn't it?

Kelli (39:54.222)
Probably. Probably.

Wendy (39:56.302)
It was probably Naya. It was probably Naya to be quite honest with you. I don't think... I don't know. no. I don't want you on it.

Kelli (40:00.238)
for some reason, I didn't think it was her. Maybe it was Janet. Listen, this is how we talk. But I'm sorry, I'll try to say the F word less.

Wendy (40:11.224)
or even if you just substitute it with the F word and don't actually use it.

Fudge. We could give it, we can, know, fudge. All right, we'll try. Janet accepts the apology and, Nia, after that Nia says she's sorry, Janet, right. Exactly, and then Janet accepts the apology and Nia's, you know.

Kelli (40:18.591)
I'll try. I'll try.

I'll give it a shot.

Kelli (40:35.155)
Well, Danny, apologize to Janet for bringing up the jazz and stuff, yeah.

Wendy (40:42.648)
In her confession, she admits that she's going to be guarded going forward with Janet as she should be because you cannot trust Janet. has no, no.

Kelli (40:48.194)
Don't trust Janet. I'm telling you right now, there's a big circle with a line in the middle of it with Janet's face. Don't trust Janet. She just wants to be on reality TV too bad. She stalked Sheena.

Wendy (40:56.092)
You know what it is? She's very jealous of Nia. She's very jealous of Nia. You can see she's jealous of Nia. Because people like Nia.

Kelli (41:05.644)
You know, that's it. I think that that's what, so I think last season, Jax and Janet saw how everyone responded to Danny and Nia. I mean, Jax on the, we said it, Jax on the first season said, wait until you find out the truth about them. This is a witch hunt, Jax is spearheading it, and Janet is his, you know, side chick.

Wendy (41:20.75)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (41:27.694)
Yes, that's it. That's what's happening. So producers ask Jesse, how do you feel about Aaron being on the trip? He said, well, I've had some issues with Aaron. He starts dating my still wife with my four year old daughter. You know, I expect demand to call me up and say, I'm spending a lot of time with your daughter. Do you have any boundaries? What? What? No, no, what? What? mean, no, nobody's going to do that. No, no, that's not happening. That's not happening.

Kelli (41:47.308)
No, totally off, no way. Nobody's gonna do that. Nobody's doing that.

Nope.

Wendy (41:57.936)
Poor Luke, this day, his emotions are all over the place. Tomorrow's the big day. You can see him with Kristen. Kristen knows he's off and doesn't know what's going on. She thinks she's done something wrong. He's the one who's always like, because she's always the one that's all over the place and he's always the one that's like even keel and she can feel it. Like she can feel it, but she's like, okay, I'm going to... Right, that, well, because she doesn't know. She really does not know.

Kelli (42:20.034)
think she thinks it's more about his grandma.

Wendy (42:26.222)
Like she really is surprised. So I'm glad that they do actually get to surprise her. Then we see, like you said, Zach and Benji are playing in the shower and Jesse's like, you hey guys, I have to shower, no funny business. Jesse then goes to iron his shirt. I'll be honest with you. As much as I don't like Jesse, I appreciate a man that irons his own shirt on vacation. I mean, he really, he's always very pressed.

Kelli (42:31.864)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (42:49.87)
He has got his shit together, Jessie. I mean, call him metrosexual, call him what you want. He is very put together and he does the work.

Wendy (42:56.246)
Yes! He really does. He really does. Listen, I'm okay with that.

Kelli (43:06.166)
There's something very likable about Jesse. There's just something very likable. Not anything to do with Michelle because he's clearly a jerk in that arena. But there's just, I mean, he is kind of funny. He was made for reality TV. Because he doesn't have any substance abuse issue. You know what I mean? He can have a drink, he can not have a drink, but he's funny, but he's also a villain, kind of.

Wendy (43:09.648)
Yeah, there is.

Wendy (43:14.978)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (43:22.522)
Definitely, definitely.

Kelli (43:33.708)
You know, not really, but kind of, depending on how you look at it.

Wendy (43:33.956)
Yes. No.

No, I totally agree. Jesse is definitely made for reality TV. And you're right, there's something very charming about him. He's very well put together. Yes, I totally agree.

Kelli (43:43.82)
Yes.

Kelli (43:49.928)
I hope that he and Michelle get to a better place.

Wendy (43:53.401)
Yes, I do too.

Kelli (43:54.85)
Because other than that, I enjoy him on the show. I don't like the Michelle stuff because, you know, he's admit that he does it on purpose to get under her skin, so. And the show aside, you have a daughter that you have to consider.

Wendy (44:05.218)
Right. Yeah, exactly.

Wendy (44:10.599)
Right. Right. And he has admitted on the after show, like the things that he has said to Michelle and yelled and, you know, called her a slut or a whore or whatever it was he called her. He has admitted that he's horrified by that and that he will have to answer to his daughter about the things that he said. So.

Kelli (44:30.7)
Right. And you know, I don't know if we've brought this up. I didn't watch the after show this week, but I have watched it in the past and I don't, forget who was saying it. It might've even been Janet and whoever she, yeah, it's Janet, Michelle and Sheena who were all together. Yeah. And I think, I don't know if Sheena or Janet says it, but I think they're right. They're like, you are to Michelle. They're saying this. You are so classy.

Wendy (44:47.32)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (44:59.52)
and that's who Jesse wants to be with. Jesse doesn't wanna be with, you know, just some girl that he met at a bar. He wants to walk into a room with a classy woman who's always put together and that's you. And he lost that. And that's what he's having a hard time getting over.

Wendy (45:13.839)
Yes.

Wendy (45:18.542)
And it's so, that is so true.

Kelli (45:20.78)
I think that's very true. And listen, I don't know if she cheated on him or not. Will she admit to kissing somebody? But there's a reason. I mean, she said they stopped sleeping together after she had Isabella. That's years. So like why? And she, according to her, she approached him about it and it still never happened. So you can't neglect.

Wendy (45:22.616)
Yes, that is very true.

Wendy (45:34.926)
Right. Right.

Kelli (45:49.056)
intimacy in your marriage and not think that somebody's going to seek it somewhere else.

Wendy (45:54.542)
Right. he also had, I mean, they were seeing Scott together. He was their marriage counselor at one point. And he said that, know, Michelle said she didn't want to go anymore. So Jesse continued to go. He said on the after show this week that he's heard that Michelle is now going to see Scott with Aaron.

And yeah, and Jax is like, well, that's a red flag this early in. Why do you need to counseling? Wait, what's that all about? I'm like, why is Jax weighing in on this? Exactly.

Kelli (46:27.266)
Yeah, that's it, like Jackson needs to just shut up, like go handle your business, Jax. I mean, I don't think it's ever a red flag for anybody to go to counseling because to me, counseling means that you're trying to improve a situation. Yeah, so absolutely. So whether you do it six months in or six years in, it doesn't matter, it's a good thing.

Wendy (46:41.882)
Communication, it's all about, listen, it's all about communication. It's all about communication.

Kelli (46:52.546)
but going to the same guy that you went to with your first husband is a little messed up.

Wendy (46:57.24)
I know. Especially considering Jesse's still seeing him.

Kelli (47:02.498)
Yes, that's a conflict. It's a huge old conflict.

Wendy (47:05.64)
Scott is Scott is the one who should have said no

Kelli (47:09.26)
Right, of course. Of course.

Wendy (47:13.815)
I don't know. I don't know.

Kelli (47:15.788)
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. And I really don't know about Aaron.

Wendy (47:20.858)
So when Jesse's ironing his shirt, the producers ask him...

when your wife, I don't know what they said, they said, how is it going on vacation? And he said, well, when your wife cheats on you and says that her boyfriend isn't the one that she cheated on you with, I don't know if you trust somebody like that. So he's still maintaining. And then we see coming up next week, he sits down with him and says, were you involved with my wife while we were still together, whether emotionally or physically, and just the look on his face, again, it could just be editing.

But just the look on his face, you're just like, maybe he was, but.

Kelli (48:01.39)
I know it's semantics, but the fact that she had his honey in her cabinet before the separation. I'm not, not by my husband, not by my husband, but I have been cheated on. I have a little detective experience in my armor. That would be a huge red flag to me.

Wendy (48:06.938)
Yeah.

Wendy (48:11.61)
Well that's what Jesse's hanging his hat on.

Wendy (48:22.554)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (48:27.468)
Like you're dating this guy now, but his honey's been in our cabinet for a year and we separated three months ago. Mm-mm.

Wendy (48:37.796)
That's what he's hanging his hat on is that honey in the cabinet.

Kelli (48:40.59)
With this, I back him up. I'm backing Jesse up with the honey theory. But again, if you're not having sex with your wife, she's gonna wanna have sex with somebody, so sorry. Four or five years? Uh-uh. Six months, know, eight months, you're going through a rough patch, you know, okay. Years?

Wendy (48:43.376)
Okay, we're gonna wait and see.

Wendy (48:55.866)
Mm-hmm.

No, that's a long time.

Wendy (49:10.458)
No, that's a long time. It's a long time.

Kelli (49:11.872)
Especially if she's approaching you about it and trying to talk to you about it and telling you how she feels about it It's not like a mutual thing where it's like, you know what? We're good right now

Wendy (49:20.824)
Right, no, exactly. So we'll have to wait and see. This is episode number 11. I don't know how many more episodes, maybe two, until we're done. That's my guess because I know we need another episode in Hawaii. And...

Kelli (49:34.638)
Is that it?

Kelli (49:41.066)
It does feel like it's kind of dragging out. It does feel like a long season at this point, because it's the same thing over and over again. but we need to see the engagement.

Wendy (49:51.738)
Well, that's the next episode. So the next episode, there's still a hint on why. So I'm thinking, that's why I'm saying two more episodes. So we'll get maybe.

Kelli (49:53.889)
Okay. Okay.

Wendy (50:03.056)
I think, I would think Hawaii is kind of it. Like what's gonna happen? They're gonna come back and you know, is there gonna be a big part? No, I would think that Hawaii is kind of the end of it. So I'm thinking two more episodes. So we'll wait and see though. And we know that the reunion was filmed a while ago because the two girls were pregnant and they both had their babies. So yeah.

Kelli (50:13.794)
Yeah. All right.

Kelli (50:23.852)
Right. Yeah. They both had girls? Or no, Nia and Danny had another boy? I forget. I know Kristen had a girl. I think they had another girl. I think they have Asher and then three girls.

Wendy (50:30.584)
I can't remember. I forget to. I forget to.

Wendy (50:38.842)
Okay.

All right, we'll have to wait and see until next week. I guess that's it. Thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe, tell your friends, and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (50:50.542)
Bye.