Summer House Reunion Part 1: Amanda & West Exposed, Ciara Unleashes Fury 🔥

Kelli (00:01.184)
Hi, welcome to BY Whenever, I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:04.087)
And I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:06.172)
And tonight we're gonna talk about finally Summer House season ten reunion part one. I have six pages of notes, but we're gonna try to get through this in a timely manner.

Wendy (00:20.44)
That is craziness.

Kelli (00:22.882)
I mean, I was just hanging on every word, I guess. So I do like the way it started out. basically we see Lindsay doing a confessional. I don't know if it was for Summerhouse or in the City. I'm assuming it was in the city because the statement came out Febru March. March. Yeah, so they would have been filming in the city. Okay.

Wendy (00:41.889)
Yes.

Wendy (00:46.519)
More yeah.

Kelli (00:50.922)
So Kyle comes in, which is kind of interesting to me, because you never know like where or when they're doing confessionals, but they must have all been in the like where was she doing her confessional that Kyle was just there to be like, Hey. Right.

Wendy (01:06.37)
They do it in a studio now. Like I think they used to actually do it at home, but I think now right. I think now they actually do it in the studio because it's easier. You know, it's easier to have them just go in and do it in the studio. So he was probably in another studio and they said, Go you know, go in and and talk to Lindsay.

Kelli (01:11.072)
Right, with backdrops.

Kelli (01:17.43)
Yeah. Right.

Kelli (01:24.534)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:28.002)
So I think production was heavily involved in this scene right here. So so Lindsay's giving her confessional. Kyle knocks on the door, tells her to check her phone. And it's this, you know, the statement from Amanda and West. Lindsay's like, none of this makes sense. This is not what happened. And then Jesse calls Lindsay. Then Mia calls Lindsay.

Kyle says that he and Amanda had a conversation the night before and then Carl calls Kyle. So I think that production reached out to all of these people and were like, call this one, call this one. And now they're all on the phone together and they're putting the phones together. Which whatever. That's fine.

Wendy (02:17.304)
Think that that's what happened, and I'm okay with it because honestly, I think that's what would happen in real life. Like and they they just happen to be filming so they were able to get it on camera in real time. Because as soon as you saw that message, you're gonna call somebody, you're gonna call this one, you're gonna call that's what you're gonna do.

Kelli (02:20.311)
absolutely.

Kelli (02:25.474)
For sure.

Kelli (02:29.186)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (02:38.038)
Right. Carl says you do not touch another man's wife the way West was touching Amanda. Mia is gonna take a red eye to go check on Sierra because she was in LA. Jesse is like the lies and deceit are disgusting. They're calling bullshit on when Amanda and West were trying to say it started. So then we go to April twenty third, twenty twenty six. They all show up for the reunion.

I like that Lindsay and Bailey

Wendy (03:11.842)
Which is three weeks right, three weeks after their statement came out was they filmed the reunion, right?

Kelli (03:16.202)
Yeah. Well, no, April twenty-third. It had to be after that because the statement came out in March. So maybe like a month or so. I don't know. maybe, maybe. So Lindsay and Bailey are sharing a dressing room talking about what colors they're wearing, and Lindsay says she's wearing red, and she says, I'm the devil, you don't want to know. West and Amanda were sharing a dressing room. And Carl's like, That's an adjustment for me, because I'm

Wendy (03:23.906)
I thought it came out like March thirty first. Okay.

Kelli (03:45.908)
sure Amanda and Kyle have been sharing a dressing room up until this point.

this I don't think we knew. On April 17th, Sierra's glamour cover came out. That is when West and Amanda's kiss at the Yankee game was also on social media, which I thought was very interesting. And we find out that KJ

was supposed to be at that game with West and Carl asks him why didn't you go and he says we weren't friends anymore.

Wendy (04:23.822)
We're not friends. We're not friends anymore. Yeah. I was very shocked. I was so shocked to see that.

Kelli (04:26.348)
We're not friends anymore.

Kelli (04:31.458)
'Cause it was a Kansas City game, which would make sense because they're both from there. This I thought was a little whack. Amanda asks West if he's okay, and he says he feels very zen. why? Well, I think they I think they both were. I mean, I'm sh and I'm sure they weren't the only two that were there that day, but I just thought it was a little w wild for him to say that. Like

Wendy (04:44.494)
I think he was high. I think he's high.

Yeah.

Wendy (04:58.348)
I I mean, listen, we he's shown us who he is. It doesn't surprise me that he says stupid shit. You know, I I liked that that Kyle, you know, specifically said, you know, when he was talking to Sierra, I'm not drinking today. There's gonna be no drinking. Like I'm g I'm doing this, you know, clear headed and I honestly I love that. I love that because he knows, you know, what the stakes are and how high they are and you know, he wants to be clear headed. And you could see that that was not the case with the other two.

Kelli (05:01.962)
Yeah. Yeah. We ha yeah.

Kelli (05:12.034)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:16.983)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:27.648)
No, no. Andy asks Sierra how she is. I mean Andy, what do you think? And she says she's had better days. She feels more betrayed by Amanda. And I just think that that's that totally makes sense. She said she's shocked by West, but really hurt by Amanda. I don't think she should be so shocked by West, but that's just my personal opinion.

Wendy (05:53.688)
Well, I get it. I get it. I think that you know what? For whatever reason, West is charming. I d I personally don't get it. I mean, I just don't get it. But when they call him out at the end, Lindsay calls him out at the end. And and says, you know what? Like you are just say first of all, he said very little. The very little that he said. Like you're just saying the right things.

Kelli (05:53.72)
And

Kelli (06:13.676)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (06:22.998)
Like you're you know, you he gets away with stuff and it it it doesn't make sense to to normal people. It really doesn't. I mean, even Lindsay, she's like, you know, I'm starting to buy this. Like I'm starting and and I know what happened. Like the fact that Lindsay was saying that, I was glad that she did. I was really glad that she did.

Kelli (06:28.13)
For sure.

Kelli (06:42.26)
No, of course. so then Jesse announces that there's a West dick pick going around. No, I wouldn't I wouldn't

Wendy (06:51.389)
my gosh. Ha ha first of all, have you s have you seen it?

'Cause it g it got to there was a watch party, page six had a watch party and Marg Margaret was there and it got to Margaret and I'm thinking, my gosh, it got to Margaret. She's like, and I didn't want to see it. Like this came unsolicited and then I wanted to see it, but I didn't want to see it, and I certainly wasn't gonna Google it. I did not want that in my Google history. But I was just like I mean

Kelli (07:19.316)
Nah, I'm all set on that.

Wendy (07:22.868)
Listen, he sits there on the couch and said someone hacked my phone. Bullshit, nobody hacked your phone. You sent it to somebody.

Kelli (07:28.3)
You sent it to somebody. And apparently it wasn't anything to send to anybody.

Wendy (07:32.844)
Why are you sending a flaccid dick pic? Like what is your I mean, seriously? 'Cause that's that was the other question he said. Well, did you see it? Was I hard? And they're like, No, you weren't. So he knows he sends flaccid picks. Like, why are you s why are you doing that? It's so sophomoric and that just shows you who he is.

Kelli (07:43.55)
No, no.

Kelli (07:49.708)
Yeah, it's just

Kelli (07:54.081)
Listen, he's a clout chaser. What Lindsay said at the end was spot on, and everybody knows it's true. And this is so Andy asks West and Amanda how they think this is gonna go. And Amanda says it's going to be about shutting down the rumors. What rumors? Everything that was put out there would was true. There it's not a rumor if it's true.

Wendy (08:19.298)
Yes it was.

Right.

Kelli (08:23.756)
They're I I I don't know. all right, so let's just so Kyle's talking to Sierra and Mia and says he was really bottoming out at the end of the summer. Now, everybody knows how I feel about Kyle. I really don't have much sympathy for him. I think that Kyle was a horrible partner, and maybe this summer he realized how horrible he was and

Maybe according to him, he tried to salvage his relationship. I don't personally feel that going out and staying out until five AM while your wife stays in is trying to salvage a relationship. But listen, that's just me. But in any event, Sierra gets emotional and and apologizes and says she really misunderstood him this summer. So I do think that that was nice of Sierra because

Well w despite how I feel, Kyle was clearly hurting in this moment and and Sierra was there for him as a friend. Which, you know, listen, I think she's always been a good friend to Amanda and she's always backed Amanda, but maybe now we're all seeing a different side of Amanda and maybe Kyle deserves a little bit of grace. Yeah.

Wendy (09:44.416)
She's a girls girl. She's a girls girl. And it's interesting that to me that you're saying that because I remember last week when we were talking about it at the end of Summer House, the this the season finale, when I was watching Kyle, I said to you, I feel so bad for him. You not only called me out on it. I know. No, no, no, no, I know you don't. I know. I know. I totally

Kelli (10:05.76)
I I don't feel bad f I don't feel bad for him at all. I really don't. I think it's nice if Sierra's there for him as a friend, but I don't feel bad for him. No.

Wendy (10:14.622)
I know. I d I still do is what I'm saying. I still do. So it's you know, like w you and I have totally different philosophies on this whole situation as we do on New Jersey when that comes out. We have we see that totally differently. We don't agree on everything. And that's okay. We don't have to agree. I I feel sorry for Kyle. I saw Kyle this summer and I watched it from the beginning.

Kelli (10:29.728)
No. Right.

Wendy (10:38.87)
Even though you like you weren't watching it, you didn't start watching it until this 'cause I kept saying you it's really good, you should watch it. Because one, I'm not gonna let one person stop me from watching something. Like if there's one person on it I don't like, but I don't dislike like I I accept Kyle for who he is. Like I you know, I think he is he is a man child, you know. I think he's finally realizing

Kelli (10:59.5)
think it's more than him being a man child though. Like I just you're he's hurt her. Like he has intentionally hurt her. That's not being a man child. cheating on someone isn't intentionally hurting them.

Wendy (11:07.67)
I'm not saying he hasn't I don't think I don't agree with that. I don't I don't

I don't I don't agree. I don't honestly I don't agree with that. I don't agree he intentionally hurt her. I don't think she was com I don't think that she was I I she's not innocent in this whole relationship. The relationship takes two. You know, the fact that the first time we see her apartment, like the inside of the apartment and the condition of it, you know, Kyle has been saying this. Like she doesn't get out of bed, you know, she suffered from depression, you know, she wasn't participating

In activities. So he was out to do everything by himself. And I would imagine that if you're living this life with someone who you believe that you love, and he does love her, there's no question in my mind that he loves her. There's no question that he loves her. That you know, there's gonna come a point where you're gonna do stupid shit. Not that I'm excusing it, not that I'm saying it's okay, but I'm just saying she's not innocent in this whole thing. She was not a victim. Don't

Like I don't call I don't think she's a victim. I think she played a part in this whole situation.

You don't have to agree, and that's okay. Like we

Kelli (12:18.688)
I think she no, I I think she I in the beginning I I you know, I've said this. I think she was a victim in the beginning. but at some point I think she just got to the point where she was like, I'm you know I'm I'm staying because I wanna be on this show, not because I wanna be in this marriage.

Wendy (12:38.222)
So then how can she be a victim? Because you were the one who said that she only reason she was hanging out with him is to be on the show because she was a booty call.

Kelli (12:46.42)
No, I no, not in the beginning. I think she truly loved him in the beginning. When sh

Wendy (12:51.573)
you didn't think she was on it just to be on the show in the beginning? Because I thought that's what you said.

Kelli (12:55.188)
No, I think she fell in love with him and and wanted to marry him and I think she was in it for love in the beginning. And then I think he broke her over the years because of his behavior. And eventually she was like, Well, I'm not leaving 'cause I want to be on the show. I mean the show is based around Kyle. That's you know, it is what it is.

Wendy (13:20.62)
Yeah, and I I I disagree with you on that because I honestly think because she even says it, she's never lived on her own before. She didn't she doesn't know how to navigate it. So yeah, he is ten years older than her and he's got more life experience. So if you're not happy, you have to control your happiness. You're not gonna change someone else's actions. You only can change yours. And it took her a long time to finally change her actions, and that's on her.

You know, that's on her. I don't know. You and I see this differently and that's okay. You know it's okay.

Kelli (13:51.467)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but I do think she was in it for love in the beginning, Amanda. I do. I think she really truly loved him. But I I think that over the years in their marriage or in their relationship, 'cause they were together a while before they even got married. I mean he cheated on her before they even got married. She still married him. He cheated on her after they got married. Like these are intentional acts. Cheating is an intentional act. So a

Wendy (14:16.096)
It's not I don't that's something I don't agree with. I don't agree with that. I'm just saying

Kelli (14:19.584)
You don't think cheating on your spouse is an intentional act? Is it by accident?

Wendy (14:24.46)
I I I think sometimes when you're intoxicated and you're out too long and maybe under the influence, I think you make bad choices. I think even adults make bad choices. We know our kids make bad choices, but I do think there's adults out there that make bad choices. And that's something that you and I disagree on. You know, you may never forgive a spouse.

Your spouse, if they cheated on you, I may. I don't know that I would. I'm just saying that I may. It's something I may consider. Like you and I have different views on these things, and that's okay. Like that's okay. I don't think it's intentional. I think it's stupidity. I think he regretted it the second he did it. I think it was impulsive. I don't think his intention was to hurt her.

Kelli (14:57.974)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (15:06.454)
Well, if you regret it the second you did it, then you probably wouldn't do it again. And he d did it again. But all right, let's move on. Let's move on. So

Wendy (15:15.521)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:22.016)
W when Andy leaves West and Amanda's dressing room, Wes goes, Well, that was you know, he goes, Not bad. And Amanda smiles and says, That's nothing. The the worst part about Amanda this whole time is like she smirks, she smiles. I I just don't see any remorse in any of this. And you know, there's a lot of people online saying, like, you know, I don't understand what Sierra is so upset about.

Wendy (15:44.879)
there's no remorse.

Kelli (15:51.413)
She only dated him for six months. And I I agree. I get that. I think for Sierra, it's more the lying. I mean, we'll get there. But the text messages. Okay, so am I to understand there has been no kissing, no hand holding, no hooking, no, and and Amanda writes, correct. And Amanda's like, Yeah, I lied. Like

I think for Sierra, it's more that. It's listen, he did you could say what you want. He broke her heart on on national television. He and she said it like she had her like community saying, like, you let this white guy basically the second time because don't forget Austin Kroll did it to her first. Publicly humiliated her. Now she lets this guy do it. you know, it's just to me, I think it's more that.

That the lying and the deceit.

Wendy (16:49.486)
Agree. That with I agree with you on that. I mean, it's definitely the lying and the deceit. And honestly, that's intentional. What what Amanda did was intentional because she was afraid to tell her the truth. It's not that she accidentally didn't tell her the truth. She flat out asked you these questions. You just had to answer them honestly, and you chose not to. That's intentional. That's intentional.

Kelli (17:01.73)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:13.708)
Right. Right.

Wendy (17:16.332)
And now we're not gonna believe anything you said. We're not gonna believe that you didn't sleep together until you put out that statement. Because why would we? You've already lied. You've already admitted that you lied. Nothing you say is going to carry weight now.

Kelli (17:20.342)
Right. Right. You could say whatever you want now, we're not believing it. Yep.

Kelli (17:29.11)
Right. So we're finally on stage. it's definitely awkward when Amanda and West enter. Sierra walks out and I loved this. Jesse says, all rise. When Sierra walked out. That was great. Andy's baby pink suit. I really liked it.

Wendy (17:42.668)
Yes, he does. Yes he did.

Wendy (17:49.9)
Okay, here's I put behind me there is Sierra's that is the revenge dress of all revenge dresses. I mean amazing Amazing. not so great. That's West with his blue. KJ in his white suit. Amazing.

Kelli (17:55.297)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She looks great. She looks great.

Kelli (18:12.716)
KJ looked at and said.

Wendy (18:15.886)
Carl love Carl in that green and his signature white pants.

Kelli (18:18.679)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:22.004)
Mm-hmm. So green must be a softbar color because Bailey and Levi were both wearing green and they said that they were representing softbar.

Wendy (18:27.137)
It must be.

Wendy (18:31.56)
Soft bar green. Now I loved the Lindsay Red dress and I love that Andy said, like, why are you wearing this? And she's like, Well, Kyle couldn't wear the revenge dress, and then they showed all the memes. And I honestly, I love that she did that. I love that she did that. Like, that's like she is a ride or die for call for Kyle. Like she really is.

Kelli (18:42.433)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:47.268)
yeah.

Kelli (18:52.674)
Well, if nothing else, I think that this reunion proved that Kyle, Carl, and Lindsay, the the three OGs, are rallying for each other. Which is nice, 'cause they started this. So

Wendy (19:05.922)
Yes.

Wendy (19:10.092)
Yes. No, she looked amazing. She looked amazing. Jesse was okay. my gosh, Mia, another one. I love Mia I love Mia.

Kelli (19:19.756)
Yeah. Yeah. I think Mia won Mia won the reunion. Even though Sierra like killed it, but Mia the way she sauntered out there, just amazing.

Wendy (19:31.362)
Ben did not like his look. Not a big fan of b not a big fan of Ben's anyway.

Kelli (19:37.066)
You know what? He's so

What's the word I'm looking for? Not important? Irrelevant. He's so irrelevant.

Wendy (19:45.398)
Yeah, that's it. Irrelevant. So honestly, that's pretty much how Levi was this season. Kind of irrelevant. But I f I want her to come back another season. I want us to actually see her. I thought she looked amazing.

Kelli (19:59.895)
I think we would have seen more of Levi if it hadn't been for the whole West Amanda thing because I think what happened was they filmed the show and then they edited it to tailor to the West Amanda relationship. Yeah. So there was probably a lot more to what Levi gave us that summer, but we just didn't see it.

Wendy (20:15.104)
I agree. I agree. But I think

Wendy (20:25.196)
Yeah. And I want it I want her to have another season. Kyle looked amazing. And my gosh, Bailey? I thought Bailey looked great.

Kelli (20:34.806)
Barely looked great.

Wendy (20:37.23)
That's la la. Yeah. So these are the looks from the reunion. I thought Sierra killed it. Honestly, there's there's nobody that could pull that off. There's nobody else that could pull that off. On all of Bravo.

Kelli (20:49.866)
No. Yeah, she looked great.

Wendy (20:52.832)
She deserves every bit of flowers that she is getting right now more than anyone ever.

Kelli (20:57.804)
Yeah. Yeah, I'm sh I'm just surprised by some of the social media. I don't know why I shouldn't be, but I'm surprised by some of the social media comments. and Andy asked Sierra, like, what's it like to get so much support from the Bravo verse? And she said it's more than she could have ever expected. And then Andy says to Kyle, you know, a few months ago I thought that you were gonna have the most to answer to on the reunion.

And Kyle said it's kind of bittersweet to be in this weird place because he felt the same way. He'd have a lot to answer to, and then now it's like, all right, you know. Amanda says she's ready to take accountability and apologize to Sierra and Kyle and to explain to everyone's face what went on and where she's coming from. At that point, Sierra turns to Kyle and says, 'I'm glad she can say our names.' Because obviously in her chat.

GBT apology that was released in March. She did not name Sierra and Kyle.

Wendy (22:02.35)
She didn't name anybody.

Kelli (22:05.002)
No. so Kyle says he's a mess. It's hard to reconcile what's going on. And they should be holding themselves to a higher standard. He's nervous and anxious. I don't know where this

Kelli (22:25.802)
No, that was Carl. Carl said he's a mess. So I don't know, is that where this Carl's a mess came from?

Wendy (22:27.352)
Coral.

Wendy (22:34.232)
think and I could be wrong, I think that when this whole thing came out, they decided to make these shirts that Carl's a mess to help support Kyle and Loverboy. Because I think that the money that was raised from the Carl's MS, like the money that was made from the Carl's Mess shirts went to went to Kyle and Loverboy. Yes. I think that's what happened. I mean and and Carl was there to do it.

Kelli (22:55.958)
Went to Loverboy.

Wendy (23:04.128)
And Lindsay was there to do it. Like they did it, you know, they did it for I think it was I mean, Lindsay's the PR person. Lindsay's the PR person. Lindsay said, like, this is what we're gonna do to help our boy Kyle. Like we're gonna say Carl's a mess. Everyone's gonna and Carl's, you know, Carl is so emotional and so in touch with his emotions, right? And he's not afraid to to talk about them. So they used him as the Carl's a mess and he was okay for it. you know, he was okay to do it.

Kelli (23:07.233)
yeah, they did a whole like commercial Lindsay and Coral.

Kelli (23:26.455)
Right.

Kelli (23:32.788)
Right. Right.

Yeah. So Jesse said he's sad and it hit him on the way over that the friend group is fractured and he's hoping they can find some common ground and move forward. And then Andy welcomes the newbies. Bailey, Ben, Mia, and KJ, because Levi's not out there yet. KJ says I did too, but I'm just gonna say this. I'm glad they brought her out before they brought Dara out.

Wendy (23:52.823)
I thought that was weird.

Wendy (24:02.923)
yes, I am too.

Kelli (24:04.8)
Yeah. Kai KJ says he's sad. This is family, and he feels like there was a lot of fraudulent activity. So then Andy brings up that in February 2026, Amanda and West were spotted holding hands at an event. And then on March 31st, you're right, the joint statement was released. So he asks Sierra, when did you first suspect that something was going on? And she said on January 17th, she called Amanda to invite her out for drinks with her Amia and

Amanda was at West's house. Amanda didn't answer, and then Mia sent in a group chat 30 minutes later something about going for drinks, and Amanda responded to that. So Amanda goes on to say that West was there for her all summer. And Sierra repeatedly said, And where was I?

So it's interesting to me, so Amanda was blowing Sierra off for West and Mia says you're prioritizing your friendship with West over Sierra and Amanda dis denies it, but you were blowing off Sierra to hang out with West, so you were, because otherwise you would have been blowing West off to be with Sierra.

Wendy (25:27.82)
Yeah. I mean she has no defense.

Kelli (25:32.387)
She has zero defense. And then Kyle starts so then they start talking about who Amanda was hanging out with at the time. And Kyle starts to say that Amanda was hanging out with someone and Sierra says, who's friends with West? And Amanda says, No, not friends with West. Fuck off. ma'am. We are not doing that. We are not telling Sierra to fuck off.

Because yes, you were hanging out with West and his friends and you're not sorry.

Kelli (26:10.922)
And

Wendy (26:11.118)
So was this person that she was supposedly hanging out with was this the girl Katie? Is that what the name was?

Kelli (26:17.484)
So it her n the name is Katie, but I don't think it's Katie who's on In the City. I think there are two Katie's, right. I could be wrong, but I don't think it's the one because the one on In the City is also friends with Danielle. And no, it's not because that Katie supposedly is Amanda's friend from like fourth grade or something.

Wendy (26:25.174)
In it's not that Katie.

Wendy (26:30.22)
Okay, 'cause that's what I was gonna ask. I was like, Yeah.

Wendy (26:45.612)
Okay.

Kelli (26:48.258)
and so Sierra and Amanda basically start going at it and Sierra says, I don't see your man sticking up for you now. And Wes just sits there silent. Silent.

Jesse says that he asked Amanda over drinks. She denied it. She said it wasn't true. Jesse says he has a timeline.

But they didn't go into that.

Wendy (27:14.872)
Well well, I just think they didn't get to it yet because on Watch What Happens Live that came out about the timeline because Andy asked him after the statement came out. And Jesse Jesse, yeah, 'cause Jesse was on Watch What Happens Live after March thirty first the statement came out. And Andy said something about the timeline and Jesse said, I have a timeline. So I he goes, I'm s he I think he even said I'm saving it for the reunion. So I think we're gonna get to it.

Kelli (27:25.303)
Jesse.

Kelli (27:42.676)
Okay, so hopefully we'll say it. West says he lied.

Wendy (27:46.006)
Yeah. 'Cause he was the closest I thought. I thought he was the closest to West. I mean, it seemed that way, right?

Kelli (27:52.606)
One hundred percent. It totally seemed that way.

Wendy (27:56.13)
I mean the but the fact that Kyle went to West's parents' house and was riding horses there, I mean, again.

Kelli (28:01.662)
I know. I know. So Sierra says Wes lies about his life. She and and I agree, I I totally agree with her. Like what we see on camera is not the real West. he's been there three years. Nobody knows who he is. And then she says it's so confusing because you had a full-time girlfriend, Mia. And of course, Wes says he was seeing somebody, but she wasn't his girlfriend. Like this guy.

Wendy (28:14.446)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (28:31.782)
Is an F boy to the ump degree. And then Andy, Andy asks, Amanda, did you know? And she's like, yeah, we had an entire conversation about it. And Mia says, Amanda, this is crazy. Like, you went from being married to being one of West's side bitches. Like, what are we doing? It's 100% true. It's crazy.

Wendy (28:37.26)
Yeah, and then she asks Amanda if you knew about her.

Wendy (28:53.432)
True. It's true.

Kelli (29:00.894)
I mean

Kelli (29:05.452)
There's only one place they can go from here to make it okay in the future, and that's to get married and have kids and live happily ever after. If that doesn't happen, this was all in vain. It's not gonna happen. Because everything Lindsay says at the end is one hundred percent true. This guy's not done. He he might be done with Summerhouse. We don't know yet. We'll I guess we'll know July fourth when they start filming.

Wendy (29:15.064)
That's never gonna happen.

It's not gonna happen.

Wendy (29:28.588)
he'll be done. There's no way. There's no way he's coming back to Summerhouse. And there's no way Amanda's coming back to Summerhouse. There's no way. There is no way. I'd put money on it. I would put money on it. I would put money on it.

Kelli (29:38.006)
Listen, never say never. Lever say never. I I think Bravo is shady AF and I never say never when it comes to Bravo.

Wendy (29:46.745)
no, they definitely are.

Kelli (29:51.501)
So Wes says that the announcement was rushed because of all of the layers and everyone's like, right. So there were so many layers. Like, didn't that give you cause for pause? Like there's so many layers because of all of the people that are going to be hurt in all of this, but you still forged ahead.

Wendy (30:12.706)
Like you put out a statement for rumors online instead of for the people that you hurt? That makes no sense.

Kelli (30:19.68)
Right. And Sierra says, You chose the one guy that fucked me up. And you are a snake in the grass. You move silent, but you are deadly. This is the problem. This is what I think people are missing. They didn't have this long ten year relationship, Sierra and West, but he publicly humiliated her. And this isn't just somebody he hooked up with. And I and listen, I'm gonna put Austin Kroll in the same category. Sierra has been very honest with who she is.

She doesn't give herself away easily. And we as viewers know that. So I can't even imagine being in a friendship with her and pretending not to know that. She doesn't give certain pieces of herself away. So when she does, it's like sacred. And these two douchebags on Bravo, Austin and West, basically publicly humiliated her. So

Wendy (31:10.509)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:16.924)
Amanda being one of her best friends to then go date this guy. It's like what? Like when your best friend is dating a douchebag, you don't a month later be like, hey now. You know what I mean? You hate him for the rest of your life because that's what you do.

Wendy (31:39.232)
And honestly, if you think about it, this is what happened to poor Sutton. Her best friend wound up is with her ex. Like, this is craziness, right? This is crazy the way that these

Kelli (31:43.872)
Yes, yes, yes.

I mean she could've she could have been the reason he left, you know. We don't know.

Wendy (31:55.062)
I mean she p we don't know, but some you she probably is. And Sutton is a class act and barely even spoke of it.

Kelli (31:59.117)
She probably is.

Kelli (32:06.016)
Yeah. So so Sierra starts reading off the text messages between she and Amanda. And basically, like I said, it's like a Sierra was point blank asking her. And Amanda was lying. Leave it to Kyle. He's like, I f you know, he was my friend too. Like I I feel like I'm being kicked to the side. Because see because we were talking about Sierra and how she was being hurt.

And and people weren't paying enough attention to Kyle at this point. Th that's who Kyle is. That's who Kyle is.

Wendy (32:44.462)
But but again, I know you don't like Kyle, but Kyle's also the one who's still worried about Amanda and her mental health because sh he knows that West is not capable of supporting her. And he does really love her. He does really love her.

Kelli (32:51.511)
Mm.

Kelli (32:59.232)
Right. Yeah, no, I'm I I I don't doubt that he doesn't love her. I d I do think he loves her. I just I mean he's just not he's just not a good he wasn't that he was not a good partner to her. He just wasn't. Yeah. So I loved this. Andy asks Carl if their statement because of what happened with Carl and Lindsay and all of the you know

Wendy (33:12.14)
No, he wasn't. I agree with that. That I agree with.

Kelli (33:25.878)
Backlash he got. Andy asked Carl if their statement was the right move. And he says, terrible move. But if you're gonna do it, apologize to Sierra and Kyle. It's like singing happy birthday without saying someone's name. And under their breath, Kyle and Lindsay are both like, great analogy, great analogy. And you see and you see Carl. I don't know if he's looking at Kyle or Lindsay, but he like he like smiles and smirks and winks and was spot.

Wendy (33:50.976)
It was. It was a great analogy. Yeah, a hundred percent. He nailed it. He nailed it.

Kelli (33:55.491)
On he nailed it. That's when I was like, this trio, like Carl has to be on in the city now. And I think that he probably wasn't. We talked about it last week. I'm sure he wasn't because the show was supposed to be, you know, the it was initiated, I'm sure, to follow Lindsay in her life. And then Kyle joined and blah blah blah. And Lindsay and Carl weren't in a good place. But hopefully now that they're in a good place, it it'll turn out well and he'll be on it.

Wendy (34:14.882)
Yes.

Wendy (34:22.55)
I hope so. And I hope, you know, because most recently in the city, Kenny was like, I'll go anywhere for you except for Brooklyn. I was like, what is with these new what is with this these Manhattan people that don't like to go to Brooklyn? It reminds me of early New York housewives when what's her name lives in Brooklyn. What was her name? Alex McCord lives in Brooklyn. They're like, we can't go to Brooklyn. Brooklyn's awesome. Are you kidding me?

Kelli (34:33.5)
I know. I know.

Kelli (34:41.994)
Yes. Alex McCord. Alex McCord. Yep.

Kelli (34:49.662)
I know. It's ridiculous. so Amanda says that she texts Sierra an apology directly, and Sierra pulls out her phone and says the day the rumors dropped, she heard from her later that night, and her text basically said the internet is on one and West and I were just friends. And Andy says, To be clear, you were hooking up at that time, and Amanda says they were talking.

So Sierra then asked, are there any videos or photos? She says, You and West haven't hooked up, held hands, kissed, or had sex, right? And Amanda says, correct. And Amanda says, I lied. Basically, their defense was she and West were just gonna sit there and be like, Yeah, we lied. I lied. Yep, I lied. I lied. I'm sorry. I lied. Exactly.

Wendy (35:38.552)
That's how we're clearing it up, by admitting that we lied.

Kelli (35:44.001)
So Andy asks who made the first move and Wes says that they were out. And he said to Amanda, Am I crazy or is something going on here? their first kiss was in February after a brunch where they all were at together. Like it looked like all the boys actually were at brunch. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (36:02.53)
And that's what was talked about. The boys were at brunch and the boys separated, but then they ran into West and Amanda together after the boys had separated. So they all the the core group knew about this.

Kelli (36:17.056)
Right. Right. And then they say that they slept together after the statement was released, not that night, but after. And I you know, obviously I don't believe that. so Sierra continues with her text. On March seventh, Amanda says, This is this is what's wild. On March seventh, so they've already determined that it that they proceeded with this in February.

On March seventh, Amanda says to Sierra, I'm super in my head about where we left off. Do you want to talk? This is so silly over West. Meanwhile, she's in a situationship with West. And this is what she's telling one of her best friends. So Amanda says, I should have said, I don't know what's going on. I have feeling for s feelings for someone I shouldn't.

Kelli (37:10.082)
So Andy asked this was amazing. Andy asks Sierra what her intentions are for the reunion and she says, Well, I guess at this point we should discuss the details before I put them in the ground and cover them with dirt. I w I think we need a t shirt with this made up.

Wendy (37:21.208)
this was good.

Wendy (37:32.066)
Yes.

Kelli (37:32.364)
Like honestly, she needs to just start selling T shirts.

Wendy (37:39.758)
She's a queen.

Kelli (37:41.955)
She's the queen. She if she wasn't before, she is now. so then they go to break, they come back, Levi Levi joins them. she says that the so they're gonna try to they're gonna try to break away from the Sierra and West and Amanda of it all. She says the parties were her favorite part. And she if did you find it where she said the guys weren't that into her? Isn't that yeah, that was kind of weird.

Wendy (38:08.34)
Yeah, she did say that. I think she meant the guys in the house, but the guys in the house weren't they're not her people.

Kelli (38:17.47)
Right, right. So then they to

Wendy (38:18.732)
Like so I mean it was Carl, Kyle was married, Ben, who we know had a girlfriend, Je Jesse, who is another F boy, like the guys in the house are not the guys that she should be interested in anyway.

Kelli (38:27.042)
Totally.

Kelli (38:36.694)
Right. Not at all.

Andy tells Sierra that her costumes were amazing this year. She said her fake boobies were the best three hundred dollars she's ever spent on eBay and hopefully we're gonna see them in the clubhouse soon.

Wendy (38:51.736)
That was so funny.

Kelli (38:53.312)
Yeah. Mia talking about her friendship with Sierra. Like that that sends me. Like, you know, and then she talks about her mom and she says she needed to hear that her mom was okay. her grief her grief is a journey and every day is different. Andy asked about her relationship with Scott. Yeah, I love their friendship too.

Wendy (39:12.898)
I love their friendship.

I love their friendship and I'm surprised we've never met her before, to be honest with you.

Kelli (39:20.562)
I know. I know. You're right. You're right. Andy asked about her relationship with Scott. She said they broke up after the summer. She's always the breaker-upper, and she's not looking for anything right now. She said she doesn't think it's healthy to go from one relationship to the next, and then they totally panned to Amanda and West. So funny. Andy asked Ben if he had any idea that Bailey had a crush on him, and he said no, he did not.

And then Andy brings up Amanda's birthday dinner when she when Bailey accused Ben of wanting to sleep with Amanda. She says she wasn't trying to upset Amanda at her birthday dinner, and she thought she was being silly because they were joking about the skinny dipping. They were joking about the skinny dipping. And she thought it was okay to talk about, and I totally agree with her. What I thought was odd was that at this point they didn't show Amanda's confessional where she's like, Ben was trying to sleep with me. There was a whole group chat about it.

Wendy (40:21.291)
Exactly.

Kelli (40:21.878)
Like, why didn't production show that?

Wendy (40:24.502)
I exactly. And you know, that's the thing I liked about Bailey in this in this reunion, that she gave it to Ben. She gave it to him. And I loved I loved every minute of it, to be quite honest with you. I loved every minute of it. I did, because I think she's Yeah.

Kelli (40:29.792)
Yes. Yes, she did. She did.

Kelli (40:38.412)
Well, he one hundred percent deserved it because he had a girlfriend and that's why he was so bent about what she said. But what she said was played off of you guys joking about skinny dipping last year at a wedding in Italy. Like she wasn't saying you wanted to fuck her now. She said you wanted to last year.

Wendy (40:44.941)
Yeah.

Wendy (40:58.338)
Right. Which Amanda admitted to.

Kelli (41:00.99)
Exact exactly. Like Bailey was one hundred percent justified.

Wendy (41:06.99)
Yeah.

Kelli (41:07.958)
This was great. Andy asks Ben if he has anger issues. And the entire group is like like basically shaking their head. And I think it was Sierra who was like, Ben, like, fess up. So this guy must have anger issues. We only got to see a tiny piece of it.

Wendy (41:24.344)
Well you could see it. Yeah.

Kelli (41:29.782)
Yeah. And he said that he and Bailey hadn't had a conversation all summer and Bailey was like, Bullshit. She said, You like to reprimand women and I don't like the way you talk to Sabrina and I don't like the way you talk to women. She said, I adore Sabrina and I think she can do better.

Wendy (41:49.442)
Yep. Because he's like, Well Sabrina likes you. She's No, I adore Sabrina. And yep, I think she can do better. I know she can do better.

Kelli (41:55.595)
Yeah. And he was like, how come you were turned on by Carl getting getting in someone's face? She's like, Because it was another man, it wasn't a woman. Like that's a you know, P U S S Y. I don't like that word, so I won't say it.

Wendy (42:09.326)
Okay, I like how you spells it though, that's fine.

Kelli (42:10.858)
Yes, yes. so Carl says that Bailey's easy to talk to and very emotionally intelligent. And Lindsay says that they're both goofy and quirky. he s Carl says he wasn't fully clocking the energy and he's been cautious in the house. I think this was Carl like friend zoning Bailey.

Wendy (42:36.012)
Listen, I agree and I think that that's this the right thing to do because like she stated, they're in different places in their life. He's ten years older than her. You know, and they they do have good energy now. my god, he does definitely need a Lindsay. He definitely does need a Lindsay. Yeah, he needs someone who's gonna take charge.

Kelli (42:44.032)
Yeah. And listen, let's face it, Carl needs a Lindsay.

Kelli (42:51.234)
Carl needs a lindsay.

Kelli (42:55.52)
Yeah. But I but I I would I would let I would like to see where Carl and Bailey went. But I think like he said he's very cautious. Like he is exactly, and especially if, you know, hopefully we see Bailey again because she was great on the show. So let's, you know, let's see where it goes. this part, my God, KJ.

Wendy (43:05.708)
He doesn't want to ruin their friendship.

Wendy (43:24.398)
H. A.

Kelli (43:24.424)
Andy says KJ calls Sierra and Mia his sisters for life. I know I'm gonna try to get through this without crying. KJ says that neither one of them are letting him get away with anything. And Andy said everyone admired his honesty about his mental health struggles. And he goes on to tell us that he went through heavy stuff in the fall. He had to go to the hospital for self harm. Mia and Sierra were there almost every single day.

And then he went into recovery after that for a few months. And he got to focus on himself. And he thinks he really needed that. He's never faced his issues. And now he's on meds for BPD. I it's not what I thought it was. At first I was like, bipolar, but it's not that.

Wendy (44:14.734)
See, this is the thing. So borderline personality disorder, there are not meds for that. There are not meds for that. That's one of the few mental health issues that there's not meds for. So I was very confused by that.

Kelli (44:18.826)
Right.

Kelli (44:27.116)
So he's probably on something like you know, some people with anxiety, they don't take anxiety medicine, they take antidepressants because it helps their anxieties. Yeah. So I'm sure he's on something that just helps whatever symptom it's symptomatic. So whatever symptoms he has, there's some kind of medicine for that. Whatever he's doing is working and God bless him for it.

Wendy (44:30.285)
Yes.

Wendy (44:35.434)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (44:43.054)
Listen.

Wendy (44:46.434)
The fact that yes. The fact that he went to rehab and the fact that he has a diagnosis and he has medication and the therapist and that he's treating this, it honestly, it first of all, I am so thankful that he was able to get the help that he needed and also that he's talking about it. As having someone very close to me that has mental health issues and has had them for a long time.

Kelli (45:07.766)
Yeah. Yes.

Wendy (45:15.298)
People don't like to talk about it and it's stigmatized. And I think it's so important that when someone like KJ can just d talk about it and raise awareness and it's okay. It is okay. It's okay. And, you know, he b he better be back.

Kelli (45:19.83)
Yes.

Kelli (45:30.922)
Yeah, so it's interesting. he better be back. How he ha listen, I I wanna see more of KJ, however, however, if it's good for him. Yeah. So obviously this week, right after the reunion, he drops on his social media a video, 'cause he I guess he's he's a performer, obviously, because he's dropping a lot. I follow him on Instagram. And Dara is in his video, but it's also come out with

Wendy (45:37.846)
If it's good for him. If it's good for him. If it's good for him. Yes, I I agree. I totally agree.

Wendy (45:52.086)
Yet he's a singer, right. Yeah.

Kelli (46:00.653)
Kind of, but not really that they broke up. Like it's out there, you know? so we think KJ and Darrow broke up. Listen, I've been suspect of her since the beginning. and then Bailey and Levi and Lindsay all basically kind of said like they thought she was with him because he was on the show. I I got that same impression right away. So

Whatever, we'll see. but she does appear on the reunion at some point and it does seem like she's yelling at somebody. I can't tell if it's West or maybe Bailey because of what she said th on I don't know if she was yeah, she was on Watch What Happens Live, right? When she said it? Or she was on virtual reality something.

Wendy (46:56.074)
No, no, she was on Watch What Happens Live. So she was on Watch What Happens Live and she said that when Andy asked her. And then she was supposed to be on virtual reality, but because she was on Watch What Happens, because she was on Watch What Happens Live, it was too much for her because she's not the stay out late kind of girl two nights in a row. So Levi went there instead and stood by what Bailey said. Now it c like this week it came out that she had.

Kelli (47:06.922)
And Levi went instead.

Kelli (47:17.516)
Right.

Right.

Wendy (47:25.46)
had posted some pictures where they were at a wedding together and she called him her forever wedding date, like wedding, you know, wedding plus one forever. And then he deleted all the pictures of her off his Instagram, but she still had the pictures of him. And then he put up a post that said, he didn't say specifically that they broke up, but he did say that you need to love yourself

Kelli (47:44.652)
Yes.

Wendy (47:55.778)
Before you can love anyone else. And I've recently learned that.

Kelli (47:59.125)
And somebody posted like I'm so confused or something and he wrote, I'm so confused too or something like that. So listen, we have no idea what's going on. What we'll we'll see. I mean

Wendy (48:06.178)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (48:11.394)
Listen, we're Team KJ. Whatever's going on, we are here to support KJ. That's all. That's all you need to know. Right? That we agree on.

Kelli (48:15.692)
For sure. That's right. That is right. Yes. Absolutely. So Andy moves on to Sierra buying her grandparents' house. She's slowly doing renovations and now she's letting her mom take over because her mom had a lot of opinions. Yep. she's excited and knows they're gonna build a lot of memories there. So her dad knows now that she's the one that purchased the house. she said she thinks he misunderstands her.

Wendy (48:30.606)
I love that. I love that.

Kelli (48:44.128)
And she thinks he doesn't understand why she would wanna buy the house. Like it that's kinda sad to me. Like 'cause if she's telling you she wants to buy the house 'cause she had great memories there and she wants her kids to have great memories there, you should be happy.

Wendy (48:59.106)
Well, he's seeing it as a bad investment and that's not why she's buying it. And that that's where the issue lies. He doesn't see her the reason she's buying it, which isn't about of an investment.

Kelli (49:01.728)
Right. Right. Yeah.

Yeah.

Mia says Sierra Down plays her success. KJ says he's proud of her and he looks up to her and he wants his younger sisters to be like her. Andy and this is what I don't like. Like, let's not give West any area to have certain opinions about where Sierra's at right now. Like to me, he doesn't deserve that platform, right?

Wendy (49:38.977)
No, I agree.

Kelli (49:40.397)
But Andy asks him if it hurts to now know about the house and not to be able to share it with her. And he says, yes, he was out of the loop. But towards the end of the summer, when he was faking being interested again, he became aware. So Sierra basically said she was tired of the energy in the house while she and West weren't talking. They were best friends at one point, and she doesn't want she didn't want everyone to think that she had this hard exterior.

and that's why she kinda gave in basically at the end. And then, you know, they're showing them making out. And then Kyle you know, w I it's funny how Yeah, it was fucking weird.

Wendy (50:25.25)
The ear stuff.

I'm like, what is wrong with him?

Kelli (50:30.752)
Yeah, like it's it's it's so weird. So this is interesting. I don't know if we've talked about this. So for a while I was like, was was West like like a like a loser in high school where now he's like, you know, trying to make up for it and but no, apparently West was like some star football player in high school and then went to college to play football, which I knew that.

Wendy (50:56.076)
Yes, yes.

Kelli (50:59.112)
And and somebody said like he's just still riding that high. Somebody needs to cut him down. And we also need to hear from didn't he have like a long term girlfriend in high school or something like that? We need to hear from her. Yeah, we need to hear from her. Yeah, the ear stuff was weird.

Wendy (51:12.765)
I don't know.

Wendy (51:19.66)
Yeah, he's he's weird.

Kelli (51:21.736)
He is weird. Kyle asks if West was breadcrumbing the audience, like making out with Sarah Sierra as a storyline. And Sierra says he and Amanda feels like the best type of revenge. And West says, at no point did he say he was trying to get back together with Sierra. And Sierra says, Well, you told Ben you had a crush on me, and then it's dreamy when we're together. And we see that.

We see Sabrina repeat what Ben told her that Wes told him. And then we see West say, like, you know, it's it's whatever when they're together. I don't think the word was dreamy. It was something else, but magical. That's what it was. So Mia says to Wes, Did you really mean what you said to Ben? And he says he and Sierra went to dinner after the summer wrapped and he wasn't interested in a relationship or being a boyfriend.

Wendy (51:51.043)
Yep.

Wendy (52:04.226)
Magical.

Kelli (52:19.372)
He said he was trying to be proactive to protect their friendship and not having sex was basically how he did that.

But in the meantime, you know, Sierra's like we were texting, flirty messages, and and Lindsay calls West out. Like, what's a s what's stronger? A physical, you know, hookup or an emotional c connection? And he answers, emotional. He says their chemistry is strong, and he fell short in those moments. And that's when Lindsay says, you are so good.

Wendy (52:42.968)
Sex or an emotional connection?

Kelli (52:56.692)
I'm getting pulled into you right now and I could catch myself. You're good at pulling girls to climb the ladder and clout chase and then drop them when they don't serve you anymore. And you're gonna do the same thing to Amanda and you won't be able to handle it because you're a toddler. I mean amazing. Amazing, Lindsay. And Sierra says maybe it will work out because he needs a woman, someone who

Wendy (53:17.388)
Amazing.

Kelli (53:24.99)
He needs someone who won't check him and that's totally Amanda. She's mute and weak and West can be the star in the relationship. And all the while she says this, West is nodding his head. Like, yeah, yep.

Kelli (53:41.344)
Wild. And Kyle says to see to Sierra Kyle tells Sierra that was harsh and she says, That's your wife, not my wife.

Wendy (53:45.198)
That's harsh.

Wendy (53:49.389)
And he says, you you're allowed to feel however you want to feel. But it it hurts me to hear it. And it's true. Yeah. And and when she does get up to leave, we're gonna see. I mean we do s you know, they give us a preview. Wes doesn't go after her. No. No.

Kelli (53:52.641)
Yeah.

And Amanda's like welling up sitting there.

Kelli (54:06.85)
Do you think he goes after her? You don't think he does? I feel like maybe they're making it look like he doesn't, but he does. But you know what? He is such a P U S S Y, he probably doesn't.

Wendy (54:15.19)
I don't think he does. I don't think he does. And and Kyle I think I heard Kyle say on an interview afterwards that he was going to go after her. He was, but he didn't. It's it right. It's not his place anymore, but he was going to. And I listen, if if somebody stopped him, it was probably Lindsay, right? Because she has his best interest at heart. But this is what I'm saying is that he's still

Kelli (54:24.96)
No, it's not his place anymore. Yeah.

Kelli (54:37.623)
Right.

Wendy (54:43.224)
cares about her and he still feels for her. And I my heart is still broken for Kyle. Even though listen, Amanda's not innocent in this whole thing. She's just not. She's not.

Kelli (54:54.658)
Well not anymore.

Wendy (54:58.424)
No.

Kelli (54:58.722)
For sure, not anymore. listen, I you know I I don't know. There's this I don't know. I there's

Wendy (55:02.103)
No.

Wendy (55:11.192)
July fourth is just around the corner. It's j I cannot I cannot wait to see who is filming. We still need to get our asses to soft bar in Brooklyn. We need to do that. I I wanna go to soft bar. I do. Carl hangs out there. He's there a lot. Everything I've heard he's there a lot.

Kelli (55:22.378)
Yes, we do.

I definitely want to go to soft bar.

Kelli (55:30.69)
I feel like maybe a Sunday might be a good day to go.

Wendy (55:34.423)
might be, yeah. I'm I'm up for a Sunday.

Kelli (55:35.882)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (55:40.79)
Yeah, I'm down with that. I don't know. I just, you know, I mean I'm looking forward to the next one. I just I wish I saw more remorse in in Amanda. I mean, West is just a lo there was no remorse.

Wendy (55:54.818)
There was no remorse.

No.

Kelli (56:00.439)
There was no remorse.

I don't know. It's it's sad. It's very sad to me. And I think like like I said, I don't like that people are like making it like Sierra shouldn't feel the way she feels. I feel like it's the deceit, the lying, the people on social media are like, they dated for six months, she's playing herself like a victim. No, no, no.

Wendy (56:16.792)
Who Yes, she absolutely

Wendy (56:26.838)
No. She's not a vict d Sierra is not a victim. She's not a victim. And sh

Kelli (56:30.572)
Because here's the thing, we saw even with Austin, like remember that weekend he came for Lindsay's birthday and he's making out with Lindsay, like like that was weird. Like these guys are such assholes.

Wendy (56:38.518)
Mm-hmm. That was weird. And Lindsay Lindsay was Lindsay played a part in that too. Lindsay was a bitch in that too. Like, you know, Lindsay's not Lindsay's not the angel, but she'll admit it. When Lindsay's done wrong, she'll admit it. She'll admit where she's done wrong.

Kelli (56:45.46)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Right.

Kelli (56:55.616)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (56:58.456)
But these guys, they don't admit it. I mean Austin to this day will never admit it. He'll never admit it. West will never admit it.

Kelli (57:00.788)
No, they don't No.

Wendy (57:08.448)
And West is gonna go on to date somebody else, and he's gonna go on to do whatever it is he does, and he'll probably be successful. Amanda, on the other hand? I don't know. I don't know if she's gonna go the way of Raquel. I don't know what's gonna happen to Amanda. I don't know what's gonna happen.

Kelli (57:24.286)
I don't think reality TV's in her future because there's no pl if she's not with Kyle, there's no place for her on in the city. It's not like she's got this great job that we all want to follow. It's not like she's like designing bathing suits still, like she's this big designer. She doesn't have like I like she doesn't she's she's not married to Ky I I just don't see her on this show anymore. Either of them, really.

Wendy (57:33.014)
No.

Wendy (57:42.389)
No.

Kelli (57:50.893)
But I wouldn't be shocked if they brought her back to Summer House. I wouldn't be shocked. Cause that's what Bravo does. I mean, I think Raquel left Bravo. Like I think she was like, done. Right. Right.

Wendy (57:56.383)
I would.

Wendy (58:03.704)
She left on her own. She left on her own accord. She did. She definitely did. She definitely did. But honestly, I feel like Amanda should leave. I think her family, like Amanda's got a strong family behind her. It's not you know, she she's got a family in New Jersey. She's got a family behind her who can support her. And her family is I think they're pretty wealthy.

Kelli (58:23.04)
Yeah. they're definitely wealthy. You see that house they got married at? Then that's in a a very wealthy area. Hillsboro?

Wendy (58:27.361)
Yeah.

Wendy (58:32.726)
Yeah, yeah. I love how Carl called that out about when when Sierra said, By the state of New York you're legally married and and Carl's like, New Jersey, Hillsboro Kyle laughed. Kyle laughed.

Kelli (58:37.526)
Yeah.

Kelli (58:44.438)
New Jersey. He's like, Mm. That was funny. So

Wendy (58:53.94)
It was funny. Listen, I don't think I don't think reality TV is the right thing for Amanda. I think that she needs to go no, I think she needs to go figure it out. I don't think mentally she's she's equipped for it. I don't. I also have seen a lot on social media about Sierra made some comment about holding hands under the table. And that was in reference to Craig when she was holding hands with Craig under the table. Because that is when Paige

Kelli (58:59.317)
Not right now.

Kelli (59:15.116)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (59:23.85)
stopped associating with Amanda because since Paige yeah, since you know Paige left the Summerhouse, it was her decision to leave. Paige is a huge success. Hannah is a huge success, despite Summerhouse. And I mean Andy had Hannah on his show recently and said he is so proud of her, of everything that she's accomplished. Her and Paige both. And Sierra's gonna be right there. Sarah is right there with them.

Kelli (59:28.258)
Really?

Kelli (59:34.389)
Absolutely.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (59:53.462)
Yeah. she's she's gonna be probably more successful. And I only say that because I think the opportunities are gonna open up for her more so than the other and and things that like I don't think Paige wants to be on Dancing with the Stars, but you know what I mean? Like Sierra's gonna get those kinds of opportunities. Yeah.

Wendy (01:00:07.286)
No, she doesn't. She said that. Day Paige just said that. She said I i I if I I I don't wanna get out of my bed. Like and she's got opportunities on Amazon to be in her bed. Like Paige knows who she is.

Kelli (01:00:13.888)
Right.

Right, right. So I think that Sierra's just gonna get those opportunities just because of what it is.

Wendy (01:00:23.498)
Right. Right.

Kelli (01:00:24.876)
But all right, we're at an hour. I knew this was gonna go long, but we had to we had to do it. So thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe, follow, share. and thank you. Thank you so much.

Wendy (01:00:28.718)
All right. We did.

Kelli (01:00:42.828)
Bye.