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Oct. 7, 2026

RHUGT S5 E9: Gilded Age Glam & Rhode Island Drama

RHUGT S5 E9: Gilded Age Glam & Rhode Island Drama

Send us Fan Mail RHUGT S5 E9: Gilded Age Glam & Rhode Island Drama 🎙️ Episode Summary RHUGT S5 E9 – Bluestone Manners The Housewives finally make it to Bluestone Manor after an exhausting five-hour bus ride, complete with a late-night Wendy’s stop, hungry Housewives, and plenty of tension. Once they arrive at Dorinda’s famous and supposedly haunted Berkshire estate, the ladies get ready for a glamorous Gilded Age party — but the drama is anything but classy. Luann has a major “come to Jes...

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RHUGT S5 E9: Gilded Age Glam & Rhode Island Drama

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RHUGT S5 E9 – Bluestone Manners

The Housewives finally make it to Bluestone Manor after an exhausting five-hour bus ride, complete with a late-night Wendy’s stop, hungry Housewives, and plenty of tension. Once they arrive at Dorinda’s famous and supposedly haunted Berkshire estate, the ladies get ready for a glamorous Gilded Age party — but the drama is anything but classy.

Luann has a major “come to Jesus” moment after realizing the women were upset with her over her behavior on the trip. Meanwhile, the new Rhode Island Housewives bring their own baggage to the party, with accusations of infidelity, betrayal, and whether the women truly supported each other.

Then Andy Cohen arrives to celebrate 20 years of the Real Housewives, and he gets Teresa Giudice and Melissa Gorga to finally address the painful history surrounding Melissa joining RHONJ. The two women share an emotional apology and promise not to put their families through that kind of drama again.

But the peace doesn't last long. Lisa Hochstein and Heather clash over their Atlanta drama, Teresa jumps into the argument, and the Rhode Island ladies continue fighting. Meanwhile, Luann celebrates Vicki Gunvalson for helping put Housewives on the map, the ladies brave the freezing weather for champagne and fireworks, and Dorinda embraces her newest career as a DJ.

It’s emotional reunions, old grudges, new Housewives drama, haunted-house antics, and a whole lot of snowball throwing at Bluestone Manor!

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Kelli (00:01.07)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:04.068)
Yes. And I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:05.517)
And I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:08.558)
We're talking about Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, Season Five, Episode Nine, and the finale, Bluestone Manners. but before we do, please go to our YouTube and subscribe and visit our socials, TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, and follow. Thank you. before we start the episode, I don't listen to two T's anymore, but I did.

Lori (00:18.872)
Mm.

Kelli (00:36.524)
I I guess we follow them on our Instagram. And I did see a clip that Dolores was telling Tamra, I think it was Tamara, that they ke they left out an entire argument, a great argument between Dorinda and Erin at the finale. Apparently Erin was drunk and Dorinda started one of her speeches. She did give a couple of speeches, so I don't really blame Erin, but d during one of Dorinda's speeches, Erin was like

Lori (00:43.95)
Yeah. Damn.

Lori (01:00.067)
Right.

Kelli (01:05.954)
Let's fucking go or something like that. And it turned into an argument. And we didn't see that. And I wish I would have seen that because I believe Dorinda would have handled Erin very well.

Lori (01:08.153)
Mm.

Lori (01:13.154)
Now why do you think

Why do you think that they didn't show it? That's my question. That's my question.

Kelli (01:19.863)
I don't know.

Wendy (01:21.433)
They probably didn't have time. The k probably because the Rhode Island ladies got so much play in this episode.

Kelli (01:23.767)
Right.

Lori (01:28.752)
Yeah, but they could've cut some of their stupid shit out and put that in.

Kelli (01:31.478)
I totally agree. And I'm sorry, can we cut the apology from Andy to Teresa and Melissa to Teresa out? Because that was ridiculous. I know we'll get to it. it's so ridiculous. You could have cut that bullshit out too.

Wendy (01:33.359)
I agree too.

Lori (01:42.702)
I knew you were gonna go there. I knew you were gonna go there. Yeah.

Kelli (01:51.062)
All right, well let's get into it.

Lori (01:52.61)
All right. Let's go.

Kelli (01:54.713)
So we're still on the sprinter and Porsche's yelling at Luann, you are mean to me, you are mean to everyone, and Luann says, I will not be bullied. And Porsche is like, Listen, you're a smart lady, you got a great vocabulary, you speak French, come up with something better than bully. I thought that was good.

Wendy (02:16.207)
I did too, because that's such an overused word nowadays.

Kelli (02:19.566)
It is. It very, very much is. and let's face it, nobody's bullying Luann.

Lori (02:19.599)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (02:29.496)
So Luanne does apologize and she says she has no idea that they all felt that way, but she loves them and she will pay more attention and she will check herself.

Lori (02:39.031)
I was surprised.

Kelli (02:40.842)
I was surprised too.

Lori (02:42.803)
surprise.

Wendy (02:43.417)
Feel like I feel like there had to be a significant amount of time between her conversation with Dorinda in the room that morning and her getting on that sprinter van because we saw her, she was still completely whacked out in the morning on the phone with Dorinda, and then she got on the sprinter van and Louise said she was like, hello, and then readily apologized. And then apologized. Yeah.

Lori (02:51.329)
Right, and then that

Lori (02:58.849)
Whacked out. Yep.

Lori (03:05.561)
Totally calm. Yeah, I don't get it.

Kelli (03:08.014)
Total attitude adjustment. I'm glad you brought that up though, because they clearly didn't leave New York City until okay, so they said they were on the bus. They were said they were on the van for seven hours, right? And they got there at 2 a.m. So midnight minus five.

Wendy (03:18.275)
Late.

Wendy (03:28.025)
1101 that they finally got to the hotel. Where did you get 2 a.m. from? 1101.

Lori (03:31.213)
Yeah, eleven o'clock. Yeah. No, eleven o'clock. Yeah.

Kelli (03:33.228)
That's what I thought and then okay, so eleven o'clock. So they left New York City at four PM. When we saw Luann have that conversation with Dorinda, I mean, it could have been two o'clock in the afternoon, but it seemed like it was morning.

Lori (03:45.293)
Yeah, I think it was. Right. I think that's just what we just assumed because we went from the night before to the next one. Right. So that made a bit must have been in the morning.

Wendy (03:51.415)
Right. It was just before.

Kelli (03:52.31)
'Cause she was in her robe and looked like she just woke up.

Wendy (03:55.768)
Right.

But it it could have been, like it could have been in the morning and then they didn't get on the bus until three three o'clock or three thirty or f you know what I mean? Or four o'clock.

Lori (04:03.192)
Until

Kelli (04:05.942)
Right. Right. Yeah. So they start talking about what housewives from each franchise are coming to Blue Stone Matter manner and Lisa says she doesn't know who's coming from Salt Lake City. And Teresa says to her, Don't worry, I'm sticking with you no matter what which I d again, I think is nice.

Lori (04:06.253)
Right, right.

Wendy (04:26.005)
I I did too.

Kelli (04:28.3)
And they're still BFFs 'cause they were on Watch What Happens Live together.

this was great. They're all

Wendy (04:34.989)
I do think they might share a brain. I mean, they're they're the two of them on Watch What Happens Live

Kelli (04:39.629)
Well

I got through half of it and I was like, I'm literally getting dumber by the second I have to turn this off. And the fact that Louie was there, I mean, I can't even believe I lasted as long as I did.

Lori (04:48.781)
I have to leave, yeah.

Kelli (04:56.522)
He looks emaciated, by the way.

Lori (05:00.977)
I saw some people posting that he looked better, like he looked healthier.

Kelli (05:05.01)
Healthier? He he's like gaunt. I mean he's not an attractive guy, but he's even less attractive now. Anyway. so they're all saying they're hungry and coincidentally they find a Wendy's for Lisa's endorsement deal.

Lori (05:07.661)
Yeah. I don't know. I didn't see it. I didn't watch it. Was he?

Wendy (05:18.083)
I'm not commenting.

Lori (05:25.263)
For lease is endorsement. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (05:26.059)
Absolutely. Yep.

Kelli (05:27.854)
And then thirty minutes later they're at the hotel they're staying at. That was fine though. And it was called the Red Lion Inn, which is great 'cause we had a very famous Red Lion Inn in Brick where we live as well. It's not there anymore.

Lori (05:31.661)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (05:41.131)
Yes, we did.

Wendy (05:43.619)
But it wasn't a hotel, it was only a restaurant.

Kelli (05:46.39)
No, it was a bar restaurant, yeah. So they walk in go ahead.

Lori (05:48.218)
Yeah. So did I did I hear somebody say that Dorinda worked there when she was younger? Right? Yeah, Louanne said I knew somebody said it. Yeah.

Wendy (05:48.558)
Yeah.

Wendy (05:55.864)
Yes, Luann said that. Yeah, she did.

Kelli (05:59.595)
I didn't know that because I thought I thought her connection to Bluestone Banner was that she and Richard bought it together. Or may but maybe they bought it together 'cause she grew up there?

Lori (06:09.836)
I don't know, yeah.

Wendy (06:12.431)
She did grow up there and sh I remember her talking about it way back in the early days when we went up there, that she used to work at the Red Lion Inn. And the other connection was that it was haunted. That it was, you know, everyone yeah.

Kelli (06:19.922)
Lori (06:21.111)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:24.283)
that's right.

Lori (06:25.239)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (06:27.042)
Right. Well they get there and there's a lot of fans there waiting for them and cheering for them. And

Wendy (06:32.833)
I was so surprised to see that.

Kelli (06:36.138)
I mean, I I don't know if if I would I would imagine if they came here, you know, there'd be enough Bravo fans in the area where we'd go sit and hang out until eleven o'clock. I don't know if I'd cheer when they walked in. I guess it depends on who it was. But Well, yeah, that's true. I love everybody after a couple of drinks.

Lori (06:50.262)
Right.

Wendy (06:50.703)
Well or how long you'd been drinking. I mean those ladies those ladies said they were waiting there a long time.

Lori (06:54.019)
Yeah, that's the thing.

Kelli (06:59.628)
Yeah, yeah. That place must have made a boatload of money that day. before I forget, you know what's interesting? There weren't there was zero representation of Real Housewives of Dallas and DC. Now I know DC was only a one a one and done, one season and done. But Dallas went on for a couple of years and they didn't even have any of those women there. Isn't that interesting?

Lori (07:03.637)
yeah, that night.

Wendy (07:28.311)
It doesn't surprise me. I mean, it honestly it doesn't really surprise me because I feel like there has been zero talk of Dallas since we lost Dallas.

Kelli (07:35.65)
Yeah, and not even that they would bring them back, but I'm just saying Miami's on pause again. But I guess maybe they filmed this before they made that decision. I don't know, I thought it was interesting that there was no talk of Dallas. And that went on for a couple of years.

Wendy (07:50.689)
No, it did. I I actually enjoyed Dallas, to be honest with you.

Kelli (07:55.029)
I didn't mind Dallas. I d I didn't like some of them, obviously, because I have strong opinions, but most of them I liked. Vicky I know, shocker. Shocker. Vicki was not into hanging out with the fans at all. But she she was rude, but let me ask you something. If a stranger who you've never met before followed you up to your room.

Lori (08:02.325)
You you have shown

Wendy (08:03.983)
Ha ha ha.

Wendy (08:11.055)
She was rude. She was downright rude.

Lori (08:14.649)
She can be rude, man.

Kelli (08:23.778)
Carrying like offering to carry your bag. I would I don't think I'd like it either. And I know production was there with cameras, so obviously she was in no danger. But it's not like he worked there. He was a he was a complete stranger.

Lori (08:31.715)
Right, right.

Lori (08:38.199)
Right. Now this guy,

Wendy (08:39.161)
She could have said no.

Kelli (08:39.892)
Now knowing where she's sleeping for the night. Well, that's what I'm wondering. Right.

Wendy (08:43.289)
She could have said she could have said no because Luann said to him, I like I re I saw it happen. He said, Can I help anyone? And Luann said to him, Go help Vicky.

Kelli (08:53.506)
Vicky. Yeah.

Lori (08:55.023)
Right, 'cause of her knee. But this guy, Matt Lowry, L A U G H E R Y, he was funny. He did a little post about the this episode and he was saying about Vicky that, you know, all the all the fan needed to do in order to hang out with her would have been to mention insurance and she would have whipped open her laptop and he could have been there a half hour. Yeah, it was funny. Yeah.

Kelli (09:21.496)
That more than that, that's very, very true. I loved when Portia walked in her room and she was like, this is nice. Grandma? Nana, are you here?

Lori (09:24.995)
Let's laugh.

Lori (09:34.379)
Yeah. Okay. That's great.

Kelli (09:38.414)
She was looking for the ghost.

Wendy (09:38.991)
I surprised when most of the women walked into the room, Luann and Kyle included, and they looked around and they said, yeah, this is nice. The first thing I thought to myself, my god, this place is so dated. Like I

Kelli (09:51.747)
Well, it's very dated. I mean, and yeah, I don't think they're gonna do they're not gonna change it at this point because that's the appeal.

Lori (09:52.323)
Well, it I think it was that's the point of it.

Wendy (09:58.754)
No, I know they're not gonna change it, but I just don't know. I know, I don't know that that I would have actually said those words. Like, this is nice.

Kelli (10:05.43)
Yeah, them walking in and being like, this is lovely. It's like, nah, come on. Yeah.

Wendy (10:09.236)
Right. Right. Like I would have been like, right

Lori (10:09.847)
Right, right. Is that really what you think?

Kelli (10:14.202)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. the best was when Kyle had the producer hide under the bed and grab Porsche's legs.

Wendy (10:20.739)
My God, that was so good. That was so good.

Lori (10:21.207)
That was awesome.

Kelli (10:23.22)
I would have passed out. I would have passed out. That was great. Kyle has been so funny on this. Yeah.

Lori (10:27.257)
That was good.

Wendy (10:29.016)
And I love

Lori (10:31.725)
Yes, she's been a joy. Absolutely.

Wendy (10:34.809)
I love that she was on the floor rolling around laughing when it was going on. Kyle. She was just like So funny.

Lori (10:38.745)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (10:39.182)
Yeah, like it was just like a lighter Kyle. So, you know, we we've seen her like go through this tumultuous, you know, kind of friendship breakup with Dorit. Like, hopefully they are in a better place this upcoming season because maybe that's why she couldn't be this Kyle on the show. Well, plus the whole thing with Maurizio, but you know, as time goes on, heartbreak gets less and less.

So I don't know. I'm hoping we see this Kyle on the new season.

Wendy (11:11.929)
I hope so too.

Kelli (11:12.256)
So the par yeah, the party at Bluestone Manor is gilded age themed. Did you guys even know about this show? I didn't, but I think I'm gonna watch it.

Lori (11:19.009)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (11:22.733)
I did not know about the show, but that is not what they were using. I think they were using the time frame of a Gilded Age, weren't they?

Kelli (11:31.81)
Well y but the show is based on that time, you know what I mean? I think it's t two are the same, you know?

Lori (11:32.652)
I don't know. On that time frame, yeah.

Wendy (11:40.353)
Yeah, I guess yeah.

Kelli (11:40.44)
So yeah, so the producers are asking Teresa what years were the guilt?

Is she gave she gave a lot of guesses, but they were incorrect. And the ages, the years were eighteen seventy-seven to nineteen hundred. And it's about old world New York, the Rockefellers, the, you know, Vanderbilts, all that. Yes. So Lisa's telling

Lori (11:50.137)
Yeah, it is.

Wendy (11:53.337)
She's always so funny.

Lori (12:05.177)
Mm-hmm. Vanderbilt. Yeah. Asters.

Wendy (12:05.209)
Yeah.

Yeah.

And you know what's interesting is those that age and those people were very also Rhode Island. Like they all had mansions in Rhode Island. They were big in New York and big in Rhode Island. So I mean, I don't know if the actual show, The Gilded Age, shows both sides of it or they only show like the New York City side of it. you yeah. I don't know. I'm just yeah.

Lori (12:17.549)
Yes, they all had mansions in Rhode Island. Yes.

Kelli (12:20.16)
I didn't know that.

Lori (12:24.057)
Yeah.

Lori (12:30.455)
I can't remember. Yeah, I can't remember if they did. Or not. Well, you know, those a lot of those families too would actually, believe it or not, come and summer in Lakewood.

Kelli (12:35.714)
I'm definitely gonna watch it though.

Kelli (12:47.108)
in Asbury Park, right?

Lori (12:48.461)
Which is a town right next to us, because they felt that the pine trees were very beneficial to your health. And where I went to college used to be a private estate. I went to Georgian Court College, which is now a university, but that was a private estate owned by a railroad Mongol. And that's why, because that's what Lakewood used to be. It used to be a lot of very expensive large homes and a lot of

Kelli (12:51.138)
Yes.

Lori (13:17.972)
like guest houses and stuff like that because people would come from New York City in the summer to s you know to summer there.

Wendy (13:27.353)
And there used to be a train. I mean there's still the there's still the tracks in Lakewood, but they're not for passengers anymore. they are still used for freight. That's you know, some very rarely, but they are still used.

Lori (13:29.369)
Yeah.

Right, the train that used to come.

Yeah, it's just free. Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Kelli (13:41.27)
Isn't that odd that the train ends in Bayhead?

Wendy (13:46.423)
It well it it's odd, but it didn't always end there. I mean the

Lori (13:46.52)
Well no.

Kelli (13:51.04)
No, I know. Like I feel like it should go all the way down to Atlantic City.

Lori (13:56.751)
Would be nice.

Kelli (13:57.271)
And w and at what point I imagine it probably did.

Lori (14:00.793)
Right.

Wendy (14:01.177)
Well the yeah, I mean I guess the problem with that would be those big bridges that they'd have to do over, you know

Lori (14:08.846)
Yeah.

Kelli (14:10.306)
Yeah. Yeah. Well, so Lisa's telling Portia she's having so much fun and Portia says, you know, look at what we went through with Lou Ann yesterday. Like I was so mad and then I was like, it's just Lou, whatever. And we get past it. Yeah.

Lori (14:25.527)
It's just well. my god, I loved, loved, loved Lisa Barlow's silk velvet lounge set that she had on. Absolutely absolutely beautiful. Beautiful. Loved it. Wanted to rip it off her. Yes, I did. I really loved it. I have a thing for velvet.

Kelli (14:38.988)
She's got great loungewear, Lisa.

Kelli (14:47.158)
Yeah. She's got good loungewear. You know, it's funny because I know they chose Luann to represent New York on this show as the main cast, but Dorinda's gotten a lot of props, I feel like. Like she's been a part of the whole New York thing. And then to end at Bluestone Manor, I mean it's a great ending, location and and great for Andy because of where he lives.

Wendy (14:47.449)
Wow.

Lori (15:05.827)
The whole thing, yeah.

Kelli (15:16.8)
and getting there. But I just thought Dorinda got a lot of recognition for somebody who wasn't a main cast member.

Lori (15:17.091)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (15:25.867)
of the girls' trip, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (15:26.124)
definitely.

Kelli (15:27.786)
Yeah, on the girls' trip. Is she gonna be on the E show with Luann, Dorinda? She is, right? When they got rid of Jill, they brought in L Dorinda. That's right. Yeah.

Lori (15:33.507)
I believe so, yeah.

Wendy (15:33.987)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (15:38.916)
Yes, they did. They did. Listen, I think Dorinda has always been a mainstay of New York. Like you've said before, the reason she was put on pause is because she was drinking too much. And you see that. You see where it went wrong. And you know, she would not fit in with the New York that's there today. She definitely wouldn't. She wouldn't.

Kelli (15:47.854)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (15:55.765)
yeah.

Wendy (16:04.993)
And honestly, I don't know that I wanna watch the e show. I I you know what? There was a time where I would wanna watch it, but I feel like I'm so past it already. I feel like like like let that go. Like let's move on. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'm just being jaded.

Kelli (16:05.494)
No, I mean

Kelli (16:20.994)
I'll be honest with you, the only

Lori (16:21.529)
and here I was thinking, I'd like to watch that.

Kelli (16:24.48)
I'm definitely watching it. I definitely want to watch it, mostly because Margaret's on it. I mean, I really miss Margaret.

Wendy (16:24.847)
Ha ha

Wendy (16:32.505)
So funny. I know there's a lot of Margaret Stans out there, and I never was. Not that she ever did anything wrong, but I never felt like she brought a storyline to us. She never we never really knew what was going on in her life. We didn't. Like she

Kelli (16:37.943)
I know.

Kelli (16:49.122)
I think her I think her kids never wanted anything to do with the show and I get it. And the way she came in, she was like, Yep, I married Jan. He was way older than me. You know, we had a beautiful life, and then I screwed the contractor and we got divorced and I married him. You know, I think I feel like she came in like, This is what happened, blah blah blah blah blah my this is how my mother was like she gave us everything right away.

But you're right, the day to day I mean she has Lexi filming with her, who's probably like a daughter to her, but her own kids didn't want to be involved. And you can't blame them. Look at p look at what happened with them not being involved. Louis calling his work threatening So

Wendy (17:27.137)
No, I I can't blame them.

Wendy (17:33.072)
But I feel like she's the one who was stirring the pot a lot. I feel like she's the one who was stirring the pot a lot. And I think that, you know, it's easy to stir the pot if your hands aren't in it. Like she had not like she her storyline wasn't out there. There wasn't anything I don't know. And again, I have nothing against her. I know pretty much just from speaking to him, like from talking to Danielle, you've spoke to Rachel, you know.

Kelli (17:48.739)
Yeah.

Wendy (18:02.245)
we've seen Melissa like they all really like Margaret. Like they had a true friendship with Margaret and it looks based on social media that they still do. Like they still, you know, connect with her. Obviously her and Teresa, they've had that falling out because of your friend Screwy Louie. But I don't know. I just never felt like Margaret, like I could have take I could take her or leave her. That's just my opinion.

Kelli (18:06.403)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:27.788)
Yeah. I mean I I agree. She wasn't like a main storyline ever. You know, I I think when when people thought she was starring the pot, she c she called Louie out for that v crazy video and that was it. Like that was it.

She was dead to Ter you know, Theresa she was dead to Teresa. She was That was it with Teresa.

Wendy (18:47.339)
Well, I wasn't it though. Be I mean, she's also the one who went after that was it with Teresa, but I'm talking about with Jen Aiden and her husband with Bill Aiden. Like, you know, she's the one who put all that out there. Again, not that i others couldn't put it out there, but Margaret did it. Because, you know, Dolores probably knew that information.

Kelli (18:54.456)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:04.146)
Yeah, and I think that's because but that was because Jen called her a home wrecker. You know, basically slut shamed her when her book came out. I think that's why Margaret retaliated and did that. But you're right. I mean her hands weren't super clean. I just like Margaret. I will watch the show though. listen, if it but if it turns into the old New York where they're getting drunk and sloppy and annoying, no, I won't be watching it.

Wendy (19:21.049)
Right.

Lori (19:21.187)
I always liked her. I always liked her.

Kelli (19:32.398)
'Cause that's pretty much why they had to end the old New York.

Wendy (19:37.485)
Yeah. I mean I'm not saying I

Kelli (19:37.546)
It wasn't just Dorinda. Dorinda was the worst, but

Wendy (19:40.865)
No, it wasn't. I mean, it w Ramona was a very big part of why it ended and how politically incorrect she is. So

Kelli (19:46.328)
Well yes, she was v she became very problematic at the end.

Wendy (19:53.038)
Right. And Luann too. She's another one who's completely tone deaf. So I I'm not saying I'm not gonna watch it. I'm just saying I'm not excited about it. Like a lot of people are really excited it's coming back. And I'm just like, whatever. Yeah.

Kelli (20:00.206)
Right.

Kelli (20:04.044)
Yeah, take it or leave it. Well, we'll see.

Wendy (20:08.259)
Yeah, we will.

Kelli (20:09.794)
so Luann tells Dorinda about how the girls addressed her and she says she's glad that they called her out because then they bonded over it. And now and now everybody else is getting ready to go to Blue or on their way to Blue Stone Manor. And Teresa and Lisa and Vicky are in one car, and Lisa is trying to do a social media post, and she's like, I'm here with Teresa, and I'm here with Vicky.

And she's talking and Vicky's like, Can you please be quiet until I'm off this phone call? Who was she on the phone with? Was it the airline? I think it was the airline.

Lori (20:44.141)
I think it was the airline, yeah.

Wendy (20:47.403)
was it the airline? Because I thought to myself, that is so rude. But if it was the airline and had to do with if it had to do with like her flight and getting home, I know that they had bad weather. Like weather was a big problem for this trip.

Kelli (20:51.605)
It was really rude.

Lori (20:57.495)
Okay, but look. Right, but look, Wendy, you can you can do more than one thing at a time. I can take a s I can take a s phone call that I have to pay attention and have somebody talk in the background. I can multitask, I can do it, and I would have just suffered through the five seconds that it was gonna take Lisa to make our posts and just kept my mouth shut and did what I had to do. I don't like this.

Kelli (20:59.885)
Yeah.

Kelli (21:26.922)
I get very overstimulated when people are in the room talking and I'm trying to conduct a phone call. So I think I might have reacted the way Vicky did. And I don't think she wa she wasn't like over the top, like, well you stop you know, like we've seen Vicky be. So

Lori (21:27.331)
And

Lori (21:36.323)
D yeah.

No.

Right, right.

Wendy (21:43.747)
thought she was doing work and if she was doing work I was like it's uncalled for but if you're saying it was the airline then I think that I think that that's okay. I think that that's okay to be honest with you.

Kelli (21:48.32)
Absolutely. I think it might have been.

Kelli (21:55.341)
Yeah, so other housewives start to arrive, but it's basically I mean, as they're showing them, it's the same housewives we've been seeing, Marisol, who, by the way, needs to stop pulling her face back. Did you notice that?

Wendy (22:08.783)
What was that neckline?

Lori (22:09.005)
Is she the one who had the is she the one who had the feather thing on? Yeah, that fur neck looked weird. I thought I when someone was asking about her neck, I thought to myself, she must have just had a procedure. So that's why she's wearing that fur thing on her neck. I was like, Yeah.

Kelli (22:12.397)
Yes.

Wendy (22:12.417)
for her neck, yeah, yeah, yeah. She had it sewn on. She had it sewn on her neck. I was

Kelli (22:28.044)
Yeah, and I'm her face is like you like she's gotta stop. Just age now, Marisol. Just age. It was interesting that Alexia wasn't there or she was, we did we just didn't say her.

Lori (22:36.889)
Yeah, just do it. Yeah.

Wendy (22:45.421)
No, I didn't see her. She if she was there, we would have seen her.

Kelli (22:46.018)
But yeah, I know. That's what I think. so so, you know, Aaron, Melissa, Lisa Hoxney, blah blah blah. But then we do see like Bose, Camille Grammar. I saw like a quick shot of of Ashley Darby. Some of them just didn't get into the mix.

Wendy (23:02.212)
Yeah.

Lori (23:04.121)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:05.283)
That was unfortunate 'cause there were so many there. I would have liked to seen a little bit more from everybody, to be honest with you.

Kelli (23:13.804)
Yeah, I think you guys are right. I think the Rhode Island girls took up a lot and I think they probably thought like, this is gonna be great but now that we've already watched first season, it's like, we c you know. Now I just found Liz completely annoying.

Lori (23:17.837)
Yeah. Hogged it up.

Lori (23:30.525)
she was it was bad.

Kelli (23:32.396)
She was on one for real.

Wendy (23:34.381)
I mean, especially since w we we know that they're filming now and Liz isn't coming back. So they could have cut all that out. We didn't need to see that.

Kelli (23:43.148)
We didn't need to see any of it. I would have much rather have seen the fight between Aaron and Durinda.

Lori (23:43.372)
No.

Wendy (23:45.368)
Right.

Lori (23:49.292)
Absolutely.

Wendy (23:50.531)
Because that would at least be I mean, Aaron, we're at least seeing I mean, on New York now, so right.

Kelli (23:55.896)
Right. We're watching her now. Yes.

Lori (23:58.212)
Well, I wanna ask you this. Did anybody notice Erin's outfit? She looked like she had on like like a white waif beater.

Kelli (24:08.224)
Erin never understands the assignment when there is a theme party. Ever.

Lori (24:10.575)
And I was like, girl, what are you doing? What what do you have on? It was it looked like she had on a white tank top. I'm like, what are you doing? No, no. She had something on over it, I think, but it was just like a white, look like a white cotton tank top. I'm like, my god. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (24:22.092)
And she probably thought she'd crushed it.

Wendy (24:25.453)
She had a jacket on over it?

Kelli (24:28.408)
Probably did at some point.

Wendy (24:35.166)
I did not notice that. I did not notice that.

Kelli (24:39.426)
Well, I didn't realize that

Wendy (24:40.143)
How about how about when Kyle gets there and she sees Melissa Gorga and she says to her, You are wearing the exact same dress I wore to my reunion last year And Melissa's like, No, they were both gold. Nope, they were both gold.

Lori (24:49.699)
But it was in a different color. I think one was gold and one with silver. It was the same one? both color.

Kelli (24:51.596)
No, it wasn't. It was the same exact same exact color. And you know what I thought was hysterical? And Melissa's like, well, did it air yet? And I thought, why? What are you trying to like act like she copied you? Like she was fig trying to figure it out in her head. Like, can it can it look like she copied me? Yeah. Kyle says it makes her very happy that Teresa and Melissa are on the mend because she loves them both.

Wendy (24:59.65)
I know that

Lori (25:03.263)
Right. Right, right.

Right, right.

Kelli (25:21.794)
And then Dolores arrives with the Rhode Island ladies. Intr Jo Ellen introduces herself to Teresa, but Teresa can't pronounce her name. Even though Joe Ellen, Jo Ellen.

Wendy (25:28.189)
my gosh.

Kelli (25:37.962)
Is saying it right in front of Teresa's face. She's hearing it, and she still can't fucking say the name.

Wendy (25:47.94)
You get so triggered. I think this poor girl Teresa I'm gonna tell you right now, I think okay, I think she maybe she has an auditory processing disorder, Kelly. You are so hard on her.

Kelli (25:50.37)
How can anybody be this fucking stupid? Come on.

Kelli (25:58.378)
my god.

Kelli (26:03.118)
She grew up in Patterson.

Wendy (26:04.33)
Ha ha ha.

Kelli (26:07.896)
Joe L N Come on.

Wendy (26:08.759)
Yeah

my god.

Lori (26:14.639)
Well listen, sometimes sometimes Callie, listen, sometimes the bulb is bright and sometimes the bulb is dim. So you just gotta flick the switch a couple of times until it comes back on. Just yeah.

Wendy (26:15.107)
Hell, you get too triggered.

Yeah.

Kelli (26:29.016)
She's a flipped the switch a lot.

Wendy (26:32.073)
Ha ha ha

Kelli (26:33.11)
Meanwhile, Porsche's in the background. Her boobs were fighting to get out of that dress. One wrong move. And it I know. Listen, that headpiece. my God. It was great.

Wendy (26:40.547)
Listen, Portia makes a statement when she walks in that room. Between the headpiece, the boobs, the dress, everything about it said, I am here and look at me. And you know what? Good for her. Good for her.

Lori (26:47.819)
I love that headpiece.

Kelli (26:53.666)
Yes. Yes. I've enjoyed Portia on this show so much. Great. Her and Kyle, honestly.

Lori (26:53.88)
Yes.

Good for her, yeah.

Lori (27:01.005)
Yeah, she's been great.

Wendy (27:05.793)
I have two. I have two.

Kelli (27:07.97)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (27:10.039)
And you honestly didn't mind Teresa either.

Kelli (27:13.726)
No, I d I really didn't. She's just so dumb. She's so dumb. It's just so funny that she gets so jacked up when people say she's dumb. But she's so dumb.

Wendy (27:16.142)
Ha ha ha.

Lori (27:24.087)
She is so dumb. She has.

Kelli (27:27.406)
All right. So Luann says all the Rhode Island girls sound like they're from Jersey. And we s we said the same thing exactly. Lo Luann and Dorinda wear the same Giovanni dress. I thought that was really cute. Yeah.

Lori (27:31.747)
Which is true. Yeah. Which is true.

Wendy (27:41.199)
I loved loved that, loved that. It was perfect because of their history.

Lori (27:44.776)
speaking of Jersey, Kwai from Salt Lake had made a post where she like sits down and she has a wig and she's got a toothbrush in her hand. She does this whole thing. And on her posts, I posted, we collectively, I posted, you know, we love how you were savage with a toothbrush. And she answered back and she said, Well

Kelli (27:46.797)
Yeah.

Lori (28:13.613)
I could have slashed the tires.

Kelli (28:16.046)
I really like her.

Lori (28:19.779)
So I I text I I d I messaged her back and I said, you know, we really appreciate your savageness. We're Jersey girls. We get it. It's funny.

Wendy (28:20.249)
No, I do too.

Kelli (28:29.442)
Yep. Did you guys see a preview of them sitting there and Bronwin saying that Kwai has bad talked everyone except Meredith and Heather's like, that's interesting because I heard you said that you think Her Meredith is horrible. And basically the conversation becomes I think it's this week, between Kwai and Whitney. And Whitney she's

Lori (28:56.355)
Whitney, yeah. Whitney is Whitney is saying that Kwai said something about Meredith in her foyer.

Kelli (29:04.846)
Foyer. Yep. Whitney, ma'am. Whitney, Bronwyn, Heather, and Angie are doing way too much. And what if you get me to like Meredith, something's wrong.

Lori (29:08.491)
Yeah, she's a snake. She's a snake. Way too much.

Lori (29:19.885)
Right, you've done some serious work. Right. If if I'm like in Meredith and Lisa, you gotta be really bad.

Kelli (29:26.722)
Yeah. And that's what they're doing. It's whatever, we'll see. So the

Lori (29:28.929)
That's what they're doing. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (29:33.335)
One of our followers posted that that they are team Lisa, Meredith and Mary. And someone else posted that we got it all wrong with the toothbrush and the anus and that was la la. I'm like, We did not get it wrong. You did not listen to us. Like that is not what we said.

Lori (29:39.567)
Uh-huh.

Kelli (29:49.965)
We didn't yeah, we didn't say anything about an Ianism. I didn't even know La La did that, but ugh. I what I didn't know is that Kwai just dipped the toothbrush in the toilet water. I I I did think she like scrubbed the that's what I mean, rimmed it means you s swiped the sides of the toilet.

Wendy (29:55.279)
I didn't either. I did not either. I mean

Lori (30:02.937)
Yeah, that's what she said.

Wendy (30:04.771)
She said she rimmed it.

Lori (30:07.201)
No, she Right, but she she clarified quite did on the trolley that it was a simple dip.

Wendy (30:10.895)
Grubbed

Kelli (30:14.824)
Okay, okay, okay. That's much better. That's much better. So the Rhode Island ladies go into the parlor and Carol's like, well, you could imagine shit's gonna go down now because shit always goes down in the parlor. And did you guys notice that when they sat down Rula gave Giselle a wink?

Lori (30:20.719)
Absolutely.

Wendy (30:29.081)
Don't go there. Yep.

Wendy (30:40.052)
No, I did not. But I mean Giselle

Kelli (30:42.838)
Right after Carol was like, shit's gonna go down, and they all sit down and they're all getting ready to talk, you know, they're all puffing out their chest. And Rula looked at Giselle and gave her a wink, like, I got this. Mm-hmm. And then Kyle take you know, is following producer's instructions, I'm I'm assuming, and says, How have you been enjoying the experience to the Rhode Island ladies? And Ashley says, Rula out of all of them has the most on her shoulders.

And then Rula starts to tell her story. And when she says that she didn't feel supported by the ladies, that's when Liz gets a little yeah. Yeah, she got hype for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. and basically said, You didn't let us support you. I mean, listen, I actually see where Liz is coming from because obviously Rula knew what was going on. This guy was having an affair for two years. It was clearly

Wendy (31:21.647)
Starts yelling.

Lori (31:22.255)
Piped up. Piped up.

Lori (31:33.081)
Mm-hmm.

Right, stop it. Yeah, come on. Right.

Kelli (31:39.552)
an an all full on relationship and she was acting to the viewers as if she didn't know anything.

Wendy (31:43.487)
Mm.

Lori (31:46.552)
Right. And then sh and then she's trying to say that Joelyn was the one who was put circul no, your husband's mistress circulated it. That's why Joel was like, what are you crazy?

Kelli (31:53.274)
circulated it. Yep.

Kelli (31:58.285)
Yes.

Kelli (32:01.848)
The only person Jo Ellen sort circulated it to was her to show her.

Lori (32:04.993)
Right. Yeah, she's she's not

Kelli (32:07.512)
How about Luann when she's like, Who died? And Joelin's like, no, no, no, her husband cheated on her and she's like, even worse.

Lori (32:10.895)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (32:15.99)
Exactly.

Lori (32:16.567)
And I and I love I love Chanel Ayan. There was a mistress. She was cute. Not the mistress.

Kelli (32:22.222)
Not the mistress. and then Rula continues to go on and Liz cuts her off again and then they flash back and then somebody brings up Lisa Hocstein and they're like, Well, you went through it, and she's like, Yeah. And then I forgot about I forgot about Lenny's hot mic moment where he actually admit to cheating on her. And the guy and the other guy, whoever he was talking to, was like, Are you mic'd? And he was like, Yeah.

Wendy (32:46.285)
Yes.

Lori (32:46.329)
With the micer.

Kelli (32:51.51)
And then of course Luanne brings it back to herself and

references Tom cheating on her at the Regency. Like and and it's kind of like the these people were married with children. You were engaged for the third time to a f to a man who had a history of first of all, he slept with all of your friends. He has had sex with all of your friends. And that's right, except for Beth.

Lori (32:59.619)
Like like those girls are gonna know what the Regency.

Lori (33:08.631)
Right, right, right, right.

Wendy (33:22.959)
Except for Bethany.

Kelli (33:27.33)
Adam.

Lori (33:28.205)
And then you married him anyway.

Wendy (33:30.511)
Well yes.

Kelli (33:30.966)
Right. And Dorinda says she married him anyway and Kyle goes and then she wrote a song about it.

Wendy (33:36.654)
That was great. That was great. I don't know. I don't know if you guys saw when Jessil is talking to Melissa. She's talking to her about her nose. She's like, She's like, your nose, you know, it looks good. Did you get it done recently? And Melissa's like, no, that was a while back. And then they flash back till season seven. Yeah, season seven, where she talks about four times. Jessel, once again, like

Lori (33:37.047)
Right.

Kelli (33:48.472)
I didn't see that part.

Kelli (33:57.049)
Four times. yeah, I did see that.

Lori (34:05.251)
Right, who comes up to somebody who's like, I love your nose job person I just met.

Wendy (34:05.635)
Really?

Wendy (34:09.487)
I mean it's so r she's just so rude.

Kelli (34:11.778)
Who was I listening to today? I was listening to Ace and Anna and and Anna said it. She's like, She never has a nice thing to say. Like she's either shading someone, like she never has something pleasant to add to the conversation. It's always like a shade or an insult.

Lori (34:21.999)
It's a thing. Uh-huh.

To add. Yeah.

Lori (34:31.673)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (34:34.553)
Yeah.

Kelli (34:35.054)
but so Portia was encouraging the Long Island, Rhode Island ladies to address things at the reunion and then but move on from them. And then Teresa says, like when you film the reunion, that week it's gonna be really bad, but as time goes on, it'll get better. So I thought that they actually both gave very good advice.

Wendy (34:55.32)
I do too.

Kelli (34:57.482)
and then Rula gets loud again and Dorinda has to come out and basically tell her to lower her voice and calm down.

Wendy (35:08.239)
Yeah, she says this isn't gonna be another Rhode Island episode if you six. Yeah, go out go out in the driveway and have this conversation. listen, I don't blame her. Like, why are they y I mean, it was a little bit obnoxious.

Lori (35:11.811)
Yeah episode six or something in Rhode Island. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (35:13.61)
Episode six, yeah, yeah.

Lori (35:17.881)
That's funny.

Lori (35:22.263)
And it was obnoxious.

Kelli (35:24.202)
I do think it was provoked. I do think it was encouraged by producers though. I think that the timing of this, I think they thought they were gonna get this this out before Rhode Island and it was gonna hype Rhode Island up.

Lori (35:28.931)
Of course they do.

Lori (35:36.81)
before Rhode Island I see, I see.

Kelli (35:41.699)
Yeah. And I think that that's why Melissa asked Kyle, like, did did it air yet? Like I think the plan was to get this out a while ago. I don't know what the hold up was, but I'm sure if we thought about it long enough we could figure it out. Luam brings Giselle and Portia up to the fish room, because of course we have to see the fish room before we leave. And right. And sh you know, she explains how iconic it is.

Lori (35:50.332)
okay.

Wendy (36:00.228)
Down, it was in the basement.

Hmm.

Kelli (36:05.58)
And then she tells them she wants to honor Vicky for twenty years because OC the girls in OC did not celebrate her the way they should have. the Rhode Island girls.

Lori (36:14.211)
Was there anybody else there from OC? Was there anybody else at Blue Stown Matter from OC? I don't think so, right? I don't think so.

Kelli (36:20.417)
No.

Wendy (36:21.517)
No. No, because they were all uninvited because of what happened. Tamar was supposed to be there and I think Shannon was supposed to be there. And then after what happened, they got uninvited to that.

Kelli (36:28.958)
Kelli (36:35.906)
What happened at the quiet woman?

Lori (36:35.927)
What what

Wendy (36:38.155)
Yes, yes.

Lori (36:41.57)
'cause that was after that. I see, I see, okay.

Wendy (36:44.333)
Yeah, that was their f that was their first stop, was the O C.

Kelli (36:48.462)
Wow.

Wendy (36:49.751)
Yeah, so they were supposed to and Tamar talked about that, and so did Shannon. Like sh yes, they were uninvited. They were supposed to be there.

Kelli (36:58.21)
Wow, interesting. So the Rhode Island girls are still fighting, and Liz calls who'd she call the Antichrist? Rula?

Wendy (36:59.555)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wendy (37:03.725)
Yeah. All night.

Lori (37:08.119)
Yeah, I don't know who she taught us.

Kelli (37:09.11)
Liz called somebody the Antichrist. I mean, that's that's a little that's that's a lot right there. Dorinda grabs the mic and starts to give a speech and as she is we see a car pull up and lo and behold, it's Andy Cohen. Mr. Monomal. What was with that hair, man? Phaedra said the hair is herring, but the hair was not herring. No.

Wendy (37:09.197)
I don't know.

Lori (37:23.917)
Mr. Monopoly.

Wendy (37:25.913)
Ha ha

Lori (37:31.319)
It was not herring, no. All he needed was that top hat that the and a mustache that the Monopoly man and listen, that's not I don't know if he thought that was a compliment, but that Monopoly man is short as hell. So I really don't think it was a compliment.

Wendy (37:32.953)
I did not like it.

Kelli (37:36.96)
my god.

Kelli (37:50.222)
I just the way the way these women are falling all over

Lori (37:51.791)
If I was a guy, I would not want to be called that.

Lori (37:58.771)
he must love it.

Kelli (38:00.35)
my God. So then he wants to give a speech.

Wendy (38:02.137)
You would have thought, honestly, like you would have thought like the president walked in or like yes, th you're right. They were fawning over him. Like, my god, Andy's here. And he I when he said on Watch What Happens Live, like he surprised them. Wait, what? You didn't expect Andy to show up on the finale of the twentieth?

Kelli (38:07.808)
Elvis. It was like Elvis walked in the room.

Lori (38:08.995)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Kelli (38:13.612)
Yes.

Kelli (38:24.494)
I gotta be honest with I don't know if I wa I mean I I was surprised I mean we knew so I wasn't surprised last night watching it, but when I heard it I was like, huh, 'cause he doesn't go to anything like that. Except Bravo Con.

Lori (38:37.583)
Well, it is the twentieth anniversary.

Wendy (38:37.743)
I mean he d it's it's yeah, it's the twentieth and it's it's at Bluestone Manor and it's in New York. I mean, Teresa said that he was supposed to come in by helicopter, but because of the weather he couldn't. So they had to know he was coming. I don't know.

Kelli (38:44.961)
Right.

Kelli (38:48.418)
Yeah. Yeah.

that's right. That yeah, they must have. You're right. They must have. Well, they were falling all over him. So he gives a speech. He says there are a hundred seventy-five million women in America who at one point or another could identify as one of the housewives, but there are under two hundred that really are real housewives. Right. Which they're not, but okay. He gave a nice speech. I mean, the Avengers thing was a little

Wendy (38:56.631)
Like how could they not know he's coming?

Yeah.

Lori (39:13.763)
Real housewives, yeah.

Wendy (39:16.143)
was actually a nice speech. I mean, I thought that was nice.

Lori (39:18.543)
It was.

Kelli (39:22.742)
Out of pocket. But whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Portia says the housewives live for Andy. And you know what? Andy lives for us. So then Andy goes over to Teresa and grabs Melissa. He says he hasn't seen them. my God. He hasn't seen them together, you know, since things have thawed. But basically.

Wendy (39:22.927)
That was weird.

Lori (39:23.971)
Yeah, whatever.

Wendy (39:25.719)
I mean superheroes? I don't know.

Lori (39:43.535)
And we have the whole yada yada.

Kelli (39:52.769)
He says that the root of their issues, which I think is hysterical, is the is the way Melissa came on the show. And Melissa says, I told you I was auditioning. I was at my shore house, and you said, good luck, good luck. Now we never heard that before. We've never once heard Melissa say that in all these years. Don't you think we would have heard something like that by now? She's never once said that.

Lori (40:16.483)
Right, you'd think right, she would have said that. Right. She would have been saying that from the beginning.

Kelli (40:23.638)
And Teresa was like, absolutely not. Teresa said, absolutely not, you never text me. I thought because Melissa's like, I was on my on my Wave Runner or my jet ski. I thought they were like all hanging out at the house together. But tur then Teresa said, You never text me. Either way, we've never heard the the shore story before. So I I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Teresa on this one and I'm gonna say Melissa's lying.

But it doesn't matter because Angie apolog Andy apologizes to Teresa that she had that experience.

Lori (40:55.567)
For for what? For what? For what?

Kelli (40:59.33)
Because basically I mean right, right. And ba he's basically vindicating her. He basically is vindicating Teresa.

Wendy (41:00.025)
Bringing Melissa on behind Theresa's back.

Lori (41:03.553)
no but

Lori (41:09.647)
Yeah, but why does w I mean, it's their show. They can have anybody they want on. Why do they gotta why they gotta clear why they gotta clear it with her?

Kelli (41:15.448)
Teresa felt that it should have been a courtesy to for her to know that her cousin and her sister in law were coming on the show.

This has been it.

Lori (41:26.947)
Well, I you know what I'm saying? Like I don't know why she thinks anybody owes her something.

Kelli (41:27.468)
I mean

Kelli (41:32.376)
Well, th this is the best part though. go ahead.

Wendy (41:32.793)
Well he he

He what Andy says is I'm sorry that you had that experience. He doesn't he doesn't apologize for actually h right. He said I'm sorry you had that experience which is a little bit different than

Kelli (41:39.361)
Exactly.

Lori (41:40.161)
Okay. Let's say that he is sorry for what he did. Okay.

Right. Then yeah. Then I did something wrong. Right, right, right.

Kelli (41:47.33)
That is what he said.

Kelli (41:51.725)
He's not saying he did anything wrong, of course. But he is vindicating her. But the best part of this whole thing is that Teresa says, I would never have made up with you if I wasn't over it. Melissa says she doesn't want anyone to fuck it up. And Teresa says, Don't let anyone change your mind. Teresa, you guys were fine seasons six through nine, and then enter Louie.

Wendy (41:52.047)
Apologizing. Right.

Kelli (42:20.854)
And Louie's the one that came in and fucked it all up. They were fine. The season the twins were on, they were good. And then every season after that, once Caroline left the show, basically, they remained a united front until Louis came in. And I you know, he fucked it all up, so she shouldn't be telling anybody else to change their mind.

Wendy (42:42.137)
I mean, Teresa did have problems with Margaret before that happened with the whole Danielle thing. And Melissa and Teresa did have some friction there because Teresa felt like Melissa didn't have her back when Jackie came on also. So there had still been friction. It it wasn't it wasn't smooth sailing. I will say that. There was still

Kelli (43:09.068)
No, no, but it was they were they were better and they were moving forward.

Wendy (43:10.339)
There was still friction between Melissa and Teresa.

Wendy (43:16.589)
Yeah. They were better, but I'm just saying there was still friction. There was definitely still friction there.

Kelli (43:24.514)
So Erin is then telling Carol that she wishes everyone would just be real, and then they show her in her sprinter van her way there, calling Jessel fake to all the other ladies in the sprinter van, and we know this because Chanel Ion told Jessel and that was what

Lori (43:33.839)
Talking shit about that, so

Wendy (43:42.327)
Even though Chanel wasn't on that sprinter van, she wasn't on that sprinter van.

Lori (43:42.649)
But I'm Right, so who but so who told who told Chanel?

Kelli (43:48.536)
Who was on the sprinter van, do you remember? I don't even remember now. I just assumed Chanel Ion was on it.

Lori (43:53.143)
I know Heather was there.

Wendy (43:54.383)
I think it was I think it might have been Ashley Darby.

Lori (43:58.282)
Ashley Darby was there, Heather was there. Those are the two I was thinking that it would be.

Kelli (44:02.269)
it then it was Heather. I mean, then it was Heather.

Wendy (44:05.081)
But then we also see at the very end, after we see that, then we see k j Erin says to Carol Jessel legitimately. She said it right she she confirmed that it she said Jessel. They only gave you Jessel legitimately, besides what was said on the sprinter van, which I thought was interesting. Why are you giving us this little tiny bit? 'Cause then they cut to something else.

Kelli (44:31.553)
Right.

Lori (44:31.599)
Yeah. And no.

Kelli (44:36.579)
Yeah.

Wendy (44:36.677)
they cut to Jessels talking to Luann and Carol and saying every woman that I meet that's a Taurus has this male energy that I'm so attracted to.

Kelli (44:45.73)
Right. And then Car Luann says that Carol stole her chef and he was in his twenties, and Carol's like, whoa whoa. He was thirty. He was thirty. And he was also and he and he was also dating Luann's niece at the time. The Rhode Island ladies are still fighting. Now Ashley and Rosie are going at it.

Wendy (44:56.173)
Right, because Carol says I'm a Leo. She's not a Taurus.

Wendy (45:03.865)
Right.

Wendy (45:09.261)
Yep, they are still fighting. Yep.

Lori (45:14.623)
And you know, Joelyn really was like, you know, you got you got to Rosie, like you was she was embarrassed. She got she was like, you know what, you you've been yelling since you got here. You need to like pipe down.

Wendy (45:19.257)
She was embarrassed.

You could say.

Kelli (45:26.104)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (45:26.573)
Yeah. Joelin was the only one I felt was truly embarrassed of their behavior there because everybody else on the Rhode Island team, they did not give a flying F.

Kelli (45:31.916)
Yes.

Lori (45:32.388)
Uh-huh.

Lori (45:36.866)
No.

Kelli (45:37.227)
No, they did it. You're right. Portia was like, they're not hiding anything. They're letting it all hang out. It's like it's their reunion. so then Andy was talking to Lisa Barlow, and he wants to bring her over by Heather, and she doesn't want to. And then they get into it. It was terrible. Like, I started writing it. I'm like, he's like, I I I I keep hearing you have a baseline of positive things. Like, even what Andy was saying wasn't making sense. I'm like, what is he talking about?

Wendy (45:51.651)
This was h another horrible exchange.

Lori (45:53.421)
Yeah, it's just a shit show.

Lori (46:04.761)
Like what yeah. You know what it was? It was a nothing burger.

Kelli (46:09.194)
It was a big giant nothing burger. But when Lisa said she has a five point GPA and trying to get along with Heather Gay, I'm like, honey, it only goes up to four point

Wendy (46:21.389)
I know and and also Teresa comes over and she joins in the conversation and she tells Helder that she should apologize for how she treated Lisa in Atlanta. And then Lisa says that she wouldn't have Charlie X E X in her lounge if if she was a fraud. I'm like, What?

Kelli (46:31.981)
Yeah.

Lori (46:41.293)
Yeah, sometimes she but sometimes she says some dumb shit. Lisa Barlow she says some dumb shit.

Kelli (46:44.888)
I know. She go it's too it's too I mean, listen, I I think Lars is telling her is the pot calling the kettle back, but Lars is not wrong. Just stop name dropping. Just stop.

Wendy (46:55.661)
Right. Right. And then Teresa says you can't say you love her like a sister and then treat her like that. I'm like, my gosh, like this is just going nowhere.

Lori (46:55.971)
It was started.

Lori (47:05.965)
No. And and and Willie's

Kelli (47:06.124)
Yeah, I know. When t and Teresa says con can don't continue with the nastiness. I just thought of that scene with Meredith.

Lori (47:11.373)
Right, but what is but what is Teresa doing? Like I know, I know, but what I mean is so you're saying that you can't call her a sister, but but so like you've been really great to your sister in law? Like you've said y you know, that's what I'm that's what I'm saying. Like it's kinda like come on.

Wendy (47:16.537)
She's having Lisa's back. That's what she's doing.

Kelli (47:28.342)
Right. And let shall we talk about the nastiness?

Wendy (47:30.465)
Right. Right. Right.

Kelli (47:34.222)
Mm-hmm.

And Portia comes over and says, I know damn well you are not acting up in front of company. She had like great one-liners in this episode. Yeah. Really great. Phaedra, Cynthia, and Sheree show up. They were late. I'm assuming that had something to do with weather, though. yeah, yeah, yeah. Their luggage. And he and Andy says their luggage will be there spring summer. But you know what? They keep playing that clip back. She's not wrong, Sharae. She said, she said.

Lori (47:41.463)
It's great. She was great.

Wendy (47:51.023)
Their luggage their luggage got lost. Their luggage got lost.

Wendy (48:00.996)
It was so funny.

Kelli (48:06.52)
Fall. And then she said fall, that's September, right? So spring summer. The the New York Fashion Week that drops in September is the spring summer line. So she wasn't wrong. But it's still a great joke. So we're just gonna keep using it over and over.

Lori (48:16.067)
Yes. No, she wasn't wrong.

Lori (48:21.207)
Right. Yeah.

Wendy (48:21.527)
Yes, it is a great joke. It absolutely is.

Kelli (48:28.098)
Th Luann's throwing grapes in Carol's mouth and it lands in her decoletage. Luann says she is ready to pass the torch on to the new girls. Yeah, of course you are. You got a new show on e Network.

everyone gets together and all like Luann asks all the girls trip cast to come come up and she gives a nice speech and she doesn't she didn't think that Vicky got the respect or the flowers that she deserved in the OC, so she wanted to celebrate Vicky. So Vicky's sitting in a nice chair and and she wanted to celebrate Vicki for putting housewives on the map.

And then we find out from Vicky that Scott Dunlop just told her that one point six million people have watched her and know who she is.

Wendy (49:18.989)
Million or billion.

Kelli (49:21.306)
I thought he said million. Was it billion? No.

Wendy (49:26.125)
I think it might have been

Lori (49:26.499)
No. I think it might have been billion. I think so.

Wendy (49:30.167)
I think it might have been billion, yeah.

Kelli (49:33.292)
Well, Andy asks Vicky if she wants Luann to sing her a song and she says, Absolutely not. And then Andy does the Irish goodbye. That was the best Irish goodbye I have ever seen in my life.

Wendy (49:34.976)
Either way.

No.

Wendy (49:45.049)
You don't announce it. He announced it

Kelli (49:47.158)
I thought that was only to Dorinda though, right? Like I think he went and said thank you to Dorinda and then yeah.

Lori (49:52.271)
Yeah.

But it was nice that they did that for Vicki. It was nice. It was.

Kelli (49:57.448)
I agree. I totally agree.

Wendy (49:58.49)
Agree. we we all agree on that. Yeah, because honestly, she is the OG. She really is. She's a pain in the ass, but she is. Right.

Kelli (50:04.588)
Yeah. Yeah. H horrible comeback. Yes, exactly.

Lori (50:08.941)
Horrible comeback. But she it was nice that she got the

Kelli (50:12.374)
Yeah. So Dorinda tells all the ladies to go outside and it's clearly freezing. So Chanel Ion says, I'm too pretty to be cold. I felt like that might have been a wend a wendy line.

Lori (50:20.269)
I love her.

Wendy (50:21.475)
I do too.

Yes, I listen, she got to see those

Kelli (50:26.476)
You I could totally have seen you Yeah. That's a you line.

Lori (50:30.093)
Wendy's like I am not doing the climate control.

Wendy (50:30.799)
Have said I'm too pretty, but I definitely would be like, I'll be watching from inside here in this climate-controlled area with my cocktail.

Kelli (50:35.563)
Yes.

Yes. So the reason Dorinda brought them all out there is because she had a nice fireworks display, which was very nice. you know, she makes them all yell out, make it nice. And then, you know, everybody kind of says things. Portia says she's gonna miss these ladies and they're all her big sisters. I love how Portia always like when she brings up she's younger. Ex she always wiggles it in there like big sis.

Lori (50:59.715)
Makes it a point that she's younger.

Lori (51:04.431)
No.

Kelli (51:06.24)
My auntie, like er nobody's like a sister, you know? Yeah. And that was basically it. Unless you guys have anything more.

Lori (51:12.589)
He's funny.

Wendy (51:16.953)
The only thing I have was Luann started a little snowball flight fight and Kyle and Camille were involved in that. And then we see Dorinda, is I think this is when she started her DJ career when she goes back inside and you know, they they they turn up the music. That's all I have.

Kelli (51:21.215)
yeah.

Kelli (51:31.692)
Yes.

Lori (51:34.255)
Mm. Yeah, she says she says fade in, fade out, like

Kelli (51:36.322)
I mean it did look like a fun party to be at.

Wendy (51:40.769)
Yeah, yeah. Like, okay, Torenda. Yeah.

Kelli (51:43.106)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like she's a pro.

Lori (51:43.343)
Okay. Yeah. Like she knows her way around the keyboard.

Kelli (51:48.504)
Yeah.

Wendy (51:48.803)
Yeah.

Lori (51:50.489)
Money.

Kelli (51:51.725)
Yeah, so that was basically it. It was I thought it was good. I enjoyed this. I mean, yes, Vicky was annoying in the beginning and Loanne was annoying at the end, but I w I hope they do this again. I kinda like them going to other cities. They didn't go to Potomac and they didn't go to New Jersey, but I'm assuming they just felt New Jersey's close enough to New York and Potomac's close enough to Atlanta, I guess.

Wendy (52:04.952)
I do too.

Wendy (52:17.167)
I don't know, but I like that they do this too and I think one of the reasons we all probably like this is because they can leave the drama there. Like, you know, they were pissed at Luann, they let it go. They were pissed at Vicky, they let it go. Because why? They don't have to see them again. They're pissed at Lisa. They don't have to see these women again for, you know, maybe another year, maybe another event. It's not like they have to w film with them for another three months.

Lori (52:26.063)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (52:32.463)
They were pissed at Lisa, they let it go. Right.

Lori (52:43.513)
No.

Wendy (52:43.553)
And I think that that might be a better dynamic to be quite honest with you, is do more of these kind of things so that it's not so toxic. Like it's just it's you know, I I just don't like this toxic I don't you know, I don't like it. I just don't like it.

Kelli (52:52.386)
I agree.

Kelli (53:01.324)
Me neither, and it's getting b like this whole thing with Salt Lake City and Whitney and this girl Qui, like like I said, I I think Whitney and Heather would stab their own kids in the back. I I really do. They're ruthless those two. Ruthless. And now they got Brahmin and Angie on board. No wonder Angie and Mary aren't in a good place.

Lori (53:07.257)
Horrible.

Lori (53:22.253)
Yeah, 'cause Mary's probably like you know, I got an I got enough grief in my life. Like, I don't need your shenanigans, bad behavior going on. And and I'm sure she and I'm sure Mary's the type that was like, I told you once, I told you twice, but if I gotta tell you three times that you're acting fool and you're not changing, then I'm done.

Kelli (53:25.283)
Yeah.

Kelli (53:39.896)
Yeah.

Kelli (53:46.531)
Right. And you know, I remember when Angie and Sean first got separated, I remember seeing him or hearing something that he basically said like the show changed her. So this could be why they're getting separated, but meanwhile she's propping a grinder box up on the bed. I am wondering if Grindr gave her that award, like if that was like a grinder award.

Wendy (54:07.332)
She did have

Lori (54:08.057)
She's she did put a post with her s holding a grind holding a grinder award. But I don't why yeah, but why did they but Right. But why did they give it to her? I didn't I didn't realize she was such a big LGBTQ plus blah blah advocate. I never heard any like I wouldn't have been surprised if maybe Bronwyn got it because you've heard her talking about and you know

Wendy (54:10.467)
I sent you the post like she had the grinder award.

Kelli (54:14.56)
Okay, okay, so it was a grinder award. But why are you propping that up on your bed like that? Prop the award up.

Wendy (54:17.241)
Yeah.

Kelli (54:30.637)
Maybe she is.

Kelli (54:35.596)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (54:37.651)
using her platform for that. But I've never heard anything about Angie. And I was like, well why did they give it to her? I don't know. I don't know, it's weird.

Kelli (54:43.864)
Yeah, you're right. Right.

Wendy (54:45.497)
Yeah, I don't know either. I don't know either. I don't know.

Lori (54:49.453)
Didn't yeah.

Kelli (54:49.624)
well. Well we're coming up on an hour, so let's wrap it up. Thank you for watching and listening. Lori's gotta blow her nose. I need more wine. We got things to do. Please like, subscribe and comment. We love the engagement. Bye.

Lori (54:52.749)
Yeah, and I gotta blow my nose.

sick. Yes. We got things to do.

Wendy (54:57.103)
There you go.

Lori (55:05.539)
Yes. Aye.

Wendy (55:08.292)
Bye.