RHOSLC S7 E2: Whitney Says Sorry… Meredith Says NOPE! | Après-Ski & Apology Drama

Wendy (00:01.23)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.908)
I'm Kelli.

Lori (00:05.809)
And I'm Laurie.

Wendy (00:08.097)
The band is back together.

Lori (00:10.288)
Yes, yes, yes.

Kelli (00:11.287)
About time.

Lori (00:14.513)
Yes.

Wendy (00:15.114)
Yes. Before we get started with Real Housewives with Salt Lake City, I'd like to ask everyone to please head over to YouTube and hit subscribe and follow us on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and comment and like and do all the fun things and thank you if you've already done it. This is season seven, episode number two, Apriski with Lisa B.

Lori (00:40.071)
Yeah, so does anybody know what a pre ski means?

Wendy (00:44.749)
Do not.

Kelli (00:45.257)
No, but it's it's been a theme on Housewives before, so shame on us because we should.

Lori (00:51.227)
Okay, so it's a French term meaning after ski that refers to the social activities, food and drinks that take place after a day on the ski slopes. So it usually happens around four PM when the ski lifts close and can stretch into the evening or night. Blah blah blah.

Kelli (01:10.741)
Sounds like something I'd like to participate in as opposed to skiing.

Lori (01:14.429)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (01:16.108)
Yes, I would as well. So we start out, we see a quick little bit of Angie and Electra. They're making cookies, I guess, for some party she's getting ready to throw.

Lori (01:27.667)
And I was thinking to myself, you know, they say she's fourteen. I'm thinking, geeze, they're getting divorced at such a tough age for that, you know. I just I yeah, I thought of that when I saw her and her age. I was just like

Wendy (01:36.569)
yes.

Kelli (01:37.719)
Probably the worst age, coin honestly.

Wendy (01:44.556)
Yeah. We see Whitney is cleaning out her closet and

Kelli (01:51.434)
Now let me ask you ladies, do you think this is for a storyline for these two? Because you know me and I immediately thought so and I am seeing a lot on social media where people are kind of calling them out.

Lori (02:05.693)
Who knows with any of them? If it's all first storyline.

Wendy (02:06.518)
I don't. I don't think it's a storyline. But I I never think it is. You always think it is and I never think it is, so

Kelli (02:14.859)
I do always think it is and obviously I've been proven wrong. the Kyle and Mo thing really still throws me. But Whitney is so she's just she's like a little girl. I can't get past the voice anymore. I really can't stand her. I just think she'll do whatever she has to do. And I also think that she's gonna be on a big, you know, I'm the victim tour after getting

Lori (02:29.481)
Little girl Little Girl

Lori (02:37.149)
I mean, hey, look.

Kelli (02:44.737)
Caught saying what she said about Meredith on that drag show stage.

Lori (02:48.679)
Right. I mean it could be look, it could be a farce with

Wendy (02:49.901)
Well.

Lori (02:56.573)
Bronwyn, it could be a farce with Angie you know you just don't know. You don't know.

Kelli (03:03.051)
You don't know. Out of the three of them though, if I had to choose one that was phony baloney, it would be Whitney.

Lori (03:06.727)
You would pick her. You pick Whitney.

Wendy (03:11.928)
We'll have to wait and see. Then we meet Ashley Kw or Quai. Is it Kwai?

Lori (03:13.725)
Yes.

Lori (03:19.177)
Kwai. I think it's Qui.

Kelli (03:21.181)
It is because they're calling her Qui. Half the time they call her Ashley, the other half they c they're calling her Qui.

Wendy (03:21.528)
Why? Why?

Wendy (03:26.956)
We find out that she was part of Lisa's glam team in the very beginning, but she's also friends with Whitney. And five years ago she married what she calls her big sexy Steven, which I'm like, her big sexy? Okay. That's what you're calling

Lori (03:45.383)
Yeah, so supposedly she met a Yeah. So supposedly it was in two thousand and six that she met Lisa.

Kelli (03:45.884)
I mean it's a very subjective term of endearment.

Wendy (03:49.006)
I thought so too.

Kelli (03:57.004)
yeah, yeah.

Wendy (03:57.475)
Yes, yes. Yes.

Lori (04:01.085)
But now no no no wait because I saw a social media post that she says that they got married five years ago, but then there was a social media post where she put last year that they were celebrating their one year anniversary. So everybody was like

Kelli (04:19.467)
Well maybe they've only been married for a year?

Wendy (04:22.37)
No, but she said they five years ago she married him.

Lori (04:24.509)
That's what I'm saying. So I don't know.

Kelli (04:25.73)
okay. Okay.

Wendy (04:29.282)
I don't know either.

Kelli (04:29.941)
Well, I don't know about you ladies, but the fact that she doesn't know what he does for a living to me, and he's in in Florida eighty percent of the time i is a big red flag. How do you not know what your husband does for a living? I don't care how long you've been married.

Wendy (04:51.726)
I agree. I mean I totally agree with you. that being said, that house, that ten thousand square foot beautiful home that she's building somewhere in Utah where they own the rest of the mountain as well, I don't know, sign me up. I I might be okay with that, to be quite honest with you.

Kelli (05:02.411)
Yes.

Lori (05:02.419)
Very nice. Right? Wendy's like, do whatever you do for a living.

Kelli (05:06.271)
Absolutely. And listen, even if you were in the mafia, he'd have some kind of company. Waste management, insurance, you know. There's something.

Lori (05:12.211)
Front. Right. You have to have a front.

Right. You have to have the front.

Wendy (05:16.586)
Yeah.

I will say that Lisa was on Watch What Happens live, and one of the questions she got from a viewer is, How can Ashley not know what her husband does? And Lisa said, She does know. She's a very smart girl. She's in marketing. But, you know, maybe she just didn't want to say the company name for privacy reasons. I'm like,

Lori (05:39.451)
Okay. But like the wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like there's any privacy in the Bravo sphere, please.

Kelli (05:39.617)
Okay, that I get.

Wendy (05:43.358)
I know, but yeah. I I know.

Kelli (05:46.658)
Well, we don't know him yet. This was the first episode we met her, but sh I mean, I guess it's it's tomatoes tomorrow, but she could have been like, he works for, you know, a company in Florida. She could have said something, not like played stupid. 'Cause she's clearly not stupid. It's not like asking Teresa what Louis does for a living.

Lori (05:57.662)
That does dot dot dot. Right. Well.

Wendy (06:05.504)
No, she's n No, she's not stupid. you know, I just thought, you know, it was a little odd about the whole her big sexy and how she's obsessed with his nipples and she felt the need to tell us that. Like, it's a little a little odd.

Lori (06:16.617)
That was gross. That was gross. I don't need to know. That was weird. That was weird. I'm like, no, no, no, no.

Kelli (06:19.004)
That was a lot.

That a lot. That was a lot. I mean, come on. Like are they wrapped in bows? Like what the fuck did these nipples we really might need to see the nipples. Now I kind of want to see the nipples. There has to be some kind of lure.

Lori (06:31.529)
No, I'm good. I'm good. I thought I don't know. I thought it was really funny how she thought like it was a a big flex to say that she was the first to try Lisa's Vita tequila. I was like, Yeah, that's really not a flex, but okay.

Wendy (06:50.635)
I know.

Kelli (06:52.279)
Okay. Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (06:56.056)
So it is very interesting because like we said, Lisa and Whitney are kind of on the outs and they are always kind of on the outs and Ashley is good friends with Whitney and Lisa. And her connection with Whitney is her sister in law. So her brother was married to Whitney's best friend Sherry, who died in twenty twenty. And we saw that. Like yeah, we saw it yeah.

Kelli (07:20.779)
And we saw it. We saw that play out on the show, yeah. Or we saw the next season, but it kind of flashed back. Yeah.

Wendy (07:28.448)
Yes. Yes. So, you know, she's got a a pretty strong connection with Whitney. She moved after her sister in law passed, she moved closer to her brother Mike so that she could be there for the family. And she has said that Whitney has been there for her brother in law and the kids this whole time, which I do not doubt. I do not doubt that.

Lori (07:49.566)
Right.

Kelli (07:49.73)
I don't doubt that either. And what I did like was that Lisa respected the like Lisa respects the fact that they have that friendship. I mean, she says like, you know, Whitney causes problems, but personally I don't think there's anything wrong with saying that because, you know, they have this dynamic on the show. She didn't say she's an asshole or you know, like I felt like Lisa was at least respecting the friendship.

Wendy (08:12.972)
No, I do too. I do too.

Lori (08:14.245)
And this this quiet is has a position of a housewife or a friend of?

Kelli (08:20.353)
I think she's a housewife. she's not.

Wendy (08:20.61)
Well, she's not on the picture. She's she's not on the picture behind me. And this was the k the I looked up the cast photo for season seven. So

Kelli (08:29.547)
She have a tagline? 'Cause I feel like did we see the taglines this year this week?

Lori (08:29.801)
But she

Wendy (08:33.824)
We did and I didn't write them down. I was hoping you guys did. They weren't that great. We'll do next week.

Lori (08:36.861)
No, but I didn't write it down. But she did get conf she did get a confessional. So that's why I was like I was kinda like, ooh.

Wendy (08:42.71)
She did. So my guess is my guess is she's probably a friend of wait, is Britney there?

Kelli (08:42.729)
Yeah.

Wendy (08:51.532)
Yeah. Brittany's not there either. So Britney's a friend of two. 'Cause we didn't see we didn't see Britney last week either.

Lori (08:54.92)
Okay.

Wendy (09:00.974)
So Brittany is a friend of still.

Lori (09:04.295)
And I thought that was really like

It's no surprise. Lisa's very pretentious. But when she was talking about

Lori (09:16.605)
The land of something and she was saying about her house and Kwai's house. You guys remember that? And then she was saying Whitney in a land far, far away, we never want to go to. Like like shading on where Whitney lives. I was like

Wendy (09:22.143)
yeah.

Wendy (09:27.661)
Yeah.

Lori (09:35.187)
She just annoys me sometimes with that stuff.

Wendy (09:37.803)
No, she is annoying. So the next thing we see is Whit Whitney is talking to Justin before he goes to the gym. And you know, she starts out with saying that, you know, she really screwed up with that TikTok that went viral when she was on stage drunk and she made those comments about Meredith and Lisa at that drag brunch, which, you know, we all saw when it happened. And she admits, you know.

Drinking is a problem for her. It's not serving her well and she was intoxicated when she said that. Not that she's making an excuse, but this is where she's at. She also has admitted that, you know, her and Justin, and we've seen this season after season, are not having the easiest time. And she is choosing to deal with it by drinking, which again usually does not serve you well.

Lori (10:33.287)
No, usually doesn't up.

Wendy (10:35.91)
the fact that, you know, she's having the conversation with him and she we saw her cleaning out her closet earlier and he said, you know, are you gonna move everything into this this spare bedroom, even your closet? And she said, Yeah. So that leads me to believe that she really is taking this serious. Like she really, you know, she's I could to me to me I think she still loves Justin. I think that she still loves the whole idea of the family, you know.

her and the the kids and Justin. but she's just struggling with the whole identity thing and the business aspect of it. And, you know, she feels betrayed about what happened with her her brand. I think it's sincere.

Kelli (11:22.465)
I wonder if she really I wonder if there was really a chance that it was gonna go to Sephora or Alta. Because she keeps saying it like it was, but you don't know that. I mean no, you don't know that. I mean, Ramona had a skincare line. Like just because you're a housewife doesn't mean you're getting into a big box store. So

Lori (11:30.631)
Right.

Lori (11:34.301)
But you don't know that.

Lori (11:38.451)
But didn't

Lori (11:45.458)
Right. But didn't she cause like didn't she kind of cause a little bit of a problem for his career? Like how does she conveniently how does she conveniently forget about that? Like Right. Right. And sh and he didn't leave you.

Kelli (11:54.987)
Yes, he got fired.

Kelli (11:59.276)
He got fired for body painting on the show.

Kelli (12:07.243)
Right. That's a great point. And I would imagine that if he if

Lori (12:07.527)
So I was just like, you know, and I thought it was really sad. It was really sad though that when they hugged and he said thank you and she says, what do you thank you? What are you saying thank you for? And he says, for hugging me. I mean, your relationship is really messed up if your partner is th thanking you for hugging them.

That's like y you got problems. You got problems.

Kelli (12:43.575)
Yeah.

Wendy (12:45.718)
I think that they do have problems. I I think they do, and I think

Kelli (12:46.135)
I mean maybe maybe Dustin's a real big jerk behind closed doors, who knows?

Lori (12:51.741)
Who knows?

Wendy (12:54.7)
I did think it was interesting that Justin said, you know, I think, you know, we need to tell the kids something. And she's like, well, I think the kids feel it. And he's like, N no, the kids just said like they've never seen us fight. Which I find that interesting. Like, how can he think one thing and she thinks something totally different? I don't know. the next thing we see is Bronwyn and Brandon. And

Kelli (13:13.399)
Right. Right.

Wendy (13:22.932)
She says that she's been seeing him every week since she met him. He's a model from New York. they just got back from Cabo. Later on we find out that they were doing ayahuasca in Cabo. I again I don't know too much about this. I guess it's some kind of hallucinogenic thing or something.

Lori (13:38.909)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Kelli (13:39.339)
Yeah, you like trip you trip, you trip.

Wendy (13:43.372)
And why do you do it in Cabo? Is that like the place to do it?

Kelli (13:46.805)
I think you're like out in the desert or something and you you know they're guiding you through it, but it's like a

Lori (13:47.186)
Lori (13:50.622)
They have like right. They have actual retreats that that's what you go there to do. and it's supposed to have like like a healing psychological aspect to it. You know, like you've seen a lot of people do like the ketamine therapy. It's kinda like along the same lines. So it's not like it's unsupervised, it is supervised.

Wendy (14:11.628)
Yeah.

Kelli (14:18.197)
Yeah, they're there guiding you through it.

Lori (14:20.283)
And a lot of them a lot of the retreats have like therapists that you go talk to after you have your session and discuss blah blah blah blah, you know. So

Wendy (14:20.738)
Okay.

Kelli (14:30.231)
How about when she said she put him up in a hotel though? Is she like, is she paying for all this stuff? Yeah.

Lori (14:35.795)
Turning into Todd? Is she turning into Todd?

Wendy (14:40.448)
Well, I mean, listen, he's coming to visit her. I don't think that's a horrible thing. I mean, obviously he he shouldn't be staying at at Todd's place with h Muzzy.

Lori (14:45.577)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (14:51.941)
No, no, no.

Kelli (14:52.085)
I agr I agree with that he shouldn't be there with the daughter, but I don't know. Yes, I feel like like who's fronting these trips? Like they went all over. They did all these trips.

Wendy (14:56.29)
You think he should pay for his own place? I mean

Lori (15:02.753)
I'm sure she's fr I think she's running the ships. So okay. Here's something for you, Callie.

Wendy (15:05.27)
I mean, she is but who cares? She's got the money.

Kelli (15:09.825)
Well, she's not with him anymore now. S apparently she's dating some married guy from New York.

Lori (15:13.533)
Right. But how about this? How about this, Kelly? Maybe he's a boyfriend for hire.

Wendy (15:14.38)
Yeah, restaurantur.

Kelli (15:22.209)
Very true.

Lori (15:23.291)
He maybe he's a boyfriend for hire. You know, it makes her interesting.

Wendy (15:25.72)
That was my first instinct. That was my first instinct when it came out, when the story came out, I thought to myself, This is just she's just paying him. That's exactly what I thought. But and even if she is, who cares? You know what? Who cares? Like the fact that yeah, who cares? The fact that she's forty and he's thirty two, I really don't think that that's a big deal. I think a bigger deal was that Todd was sixty seven and she was forty. I think that was a way bigger deal. So yeah.

Kelli (15:28.385)
That could be.

Lori (15:32.285)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (15:37.803)
That could very well be. I didn't even think of that, yeah. Yeah, I know, I know.

Lori (15:40.199)
Who cares? Absolutely. Yeah.

Lori (15:48.025)
No, that's not a big deal.

Kelli (15:52.491)
Right. And s and still messed around behind her back. Like that blows me away.

Lori (15:53.371)
Way bigger deal, yeah.

Wendy (15:58.435)
Yeah. Yeah. S yeah. and you know, that's the other thing is, you know, she says that she's you know, she feels like she did Brandon dirty and Todd dirty by letting the story get out and not protecting them from the media. But Brittany not Britney, Whitney and Heather both think that she is the one who leaked the story. And Lisa on Watch What Happens Live also thinks that.

Lori (16:00.393)
Unbelievable.

Wendy (16:27.828)
So yes.

Kelli (16:28.543)
Really? I have to be honest, when Heather and Whitney said it, I was like, no, that doesn't even make sense. But if Lisa said it, I feel like there might be some truth about it.

Wendy (16:39.244)
And if it was a for higher situation, then, you know, why not? You know what I'm saying?

Lori (16:45.438)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:45.599)
You think it's just to was just to like secure her spot on the show? I feel like being separated from Todd in itself was securing for her.

Lori (16:50.579)
Yes.

Lori (16:53.927)
Because y well, you know, it's it keeps her in the spotlight. He's good eye candy. People are like, Ooh, you know, like keeps people talking.

Kelli (16:58.529)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (17:03.362)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:06.231)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (17:07.638)
Yeah. the next thing we see is Heather goes over to Britney's house and I feel like this is the first time we've ever seen the outside of Britney's house, or even the inside for that matter. And I was shocked. Like how big her house is. Have we seen the outside?

Lori (17:20.167)
No, we've seen the inside of our house. We've seen the inside.

Kelli (17:20.671)
No, we have seen the inside. Cause remember she in I don't know, but she invited maybe it was Heather over for like a prayer group and somebody brought her wine and she was like, You can't bring me wine, like these pe these people don't think I drink. But she does have a beautiful home.

Lori (17:28.815)
that house thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wendy (17:34.999)
I remember the wine.

Lori (17:36.903)
Yeah. Right, right, right.

Wendy (17:38.755)
I remember the wine. I just was taken it's huge. I remember she had when I just saw it now, she had double front doors, which makes you know, that makes it even like it's a huge house. I you know, I was surprised at the size of it. I thought it was very nice that she was doing breakfast sandwiches for Heather and Whitney, to be quite honest with you. I love a breakfast sandwich.

Lori (17:42.216)
Yes.

Lori (17:49.97)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (17:50.198)
Yes.

Yes.

Lori (18:01.031)
yeah.

Kelli (18:02.015)
It was very nice. But I Heather and I don't like her. I can't stand her. But when she said when Brittany said she has been clean six weeks for men and doesn't miss it, Heather says it's a lie and we could probably smell the Jared Osmond on her neck.

Lori (18:19.399)
Yes. It's great.

Kelli (18:22.911)
The funniest thing ever.

Lori (18:24.776)
That was good.

Wendy (18:25.354)
It is a lie because Lisa even confirmed that she just saw Jared and Brittany out together on Watch What Happens Live. So

Lori (18:31.76)
yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure.

Kelli (18:33.875)
I r I really hope we don't see him this season.

Lori (18:36.999)
Now he's skis he's so ick.

Kelli (18:39.255)
he gives you such the ick. he's so icky. And I was a big Dania Marie fan growing up. I don't need I don't need to get the ick over any Osmond.

Wendy (18:48.261)
but he yeah.

Yeah.

we find out that Britney was invited to the ski day. Heather asked Whitney if she's spoken to Meredith, and she has not. She wants to just do it on ski day. She just wants to get it over with, which I agree. Like just get it out of the way, you know, so you can move forward. then Heather starts talking about her right.

Kelli (19:12.727)
Well yeah, she doesn't want this to be a thing. She doesn't want this to be a thing all season.

Wendy (19:18.232)
Which I don't either, to be honest with you. I mean right. Heather says that her and Lisa fought hard when they were in New York, which again, we're talking about the reunion. Just say when you were at the reunion. I don't know why they don't say that.

Kelli (19:20.34)
I know. Good point. Yeah.

Kelli (19:34.527)
I was surprised that they verbally said Ultimate Girls Trip.

Wendy (19:39.404)
Yeah, they did. Yeah. And honestly, she admits, Heather admits that she was horrible to Lisa on the Ultimate Girls trip. And I don't think we really saw everything that happened because I didn't think she was that horrible. So I that leads me to believe there was more that went on that we did not see.

Kelli (19:58.372)
I you know what it was? I thought she was horrible. And I thought it like Lori and I had talked about it when we recapped it. I think that Whitney and Heather were so salty that they were not asked to do this. Because it was a it was a season one cast member of every season except Atlanta, because Portia wasn't season one, but nobody from season one is left. And except Miami. Nobody from Miami was on it except when they visited.

Lori (19:58.651)
I would think so.

Kelli (20:27.253)
Miami. So I think that Heather and Whitney thought it should have been them, especially Heather. Especially Heather. So she was going to insert herself in every scene she could. And how do you do that? By being an asshole to the person on your cast.

Wendy (20:28.054)
Right. Right.

Lori (20:34.814)
Yes.

Wendy (20:46.498)
And Heather has been on Ultimate Girls trips before. Has has Lisa? Yeah, has Lisa?

Kelli (20:49.761)
Yes, she and Whitney were on.

Kelli (20:55.168)
I don't think so.

Wendy (20:55.894)
don't think she has. I don't think she has. So it makes sense.

Lori (20:58.343)
Wait, wait, wait, but wait, wait, wait. But didn't Lisa say something about another girl's trip that somebody had her back?

Kelli (20:58.644)
No, I don't think

Lori (21:08.465)
Do you remember that?

Kelli (21:12.075)
I'll have to I'll have to look it up.

Lori (21:13.479)
I think I think that she has been.

Wendy (21:16.738)
Alright. So either way, h Heather admits that she was nasty to Lisa and she wants to apologize, you know, for her her behavior.

Wendy (21:31.307)
Meredith in her next we see Meredith in her confessional, she admits that seeing some of these women today is gonna be more painful than her facelift recovery. I am so here that she is owning it and putting out there. I love it. I so love it. I'm like and honestly, I think she looks amazing. I think she looked amazing before. I don't really think she needed it, but if she thought she did, good for her.

Kelli (21:45.249)
Me too. Me too. I think it's amazing.

Lori (21:58.802)
Now how about Yeah. How about Bronwyn

Kelli (21:58.976)
It look it just looks like a refresh.

Wendy (22:01.546)
It does, it does.

Kelli (22:03.499)
And that i this is Lisa's first time on an ultimate girls trip, sorry.

Lori (22:07.407)
Okay. How about Bronwyn brought that brand into Robert Junior's service? I don't think that was a good move. I don't think that was a good move. I was like

Wendy (22:07.607)
Okay.

Kelli (22:12.993)
Holy cow, I thought the same thing. Especially when she said Todd had offered to go with her. He knew Mary. This guy don't know Mary.

Lori (22:19.941)
Right. I still know, Mary. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was kind of weird. I was like, mm.

Kelli (22:25.271)
I wonder if he thought they were filming.

Lori (22:28.274)
I don't know.

Wendy (22:30.764)
I don't know either. That was a little weird. That was weird. And 'cause Brittany wasn't there. So they were filling in on Britney on what happened at that service, 'cause Brittany was not there.

Kelli (22:34.027)
Yes.

Wendy (22:45.436)
And I don't believe the service was filmed, correct? They they they've made they said that, right? They've made it clear that the service was not filmed, which is wonderful. I mean, just them talking about it was enough. Like

Lori (22:50.833)
No, wasn't filmed, yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (22:51.189)
No. No.

Kelli (22:57.015)
Absolutely.

Lori (22:59.505)
Yeah. And I wanted to I wanted to correct us, Kelly and myself, because when we were Go ahead. What do you want to say? You got you do it. I wanna see if if I wanna see if it's the same now, you go ahead.

Wendy (23:03.885)
Okay.

Kelli (23:05.281)
I know what you're

No, you go ahead.

Kelli (23:15.295)
Is it because we were referring to it as a homecoming and it's really a homegoing?

Lori (23:18.577)
Yes, home going. Yes. See good. Good. Yeah. So no, I think it was funny. No. It's at home. Yeah. So I I wanted to correct ourselves because sorry if we got that wrong.

Kelli (23:22.903)
I didn't mean to cut you off, I just I just when you said that I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wendy (23:27.47)
Wait, it's a home going, not a homecoming?

Kelli (23:29.323)
Yes. Yeah.

Wendy (23:32.855)
Okay.

Wendy (23:38.383)
So funny. So when they all get they get there, they're all toasting and Meredith is not toasting because she is not in a ski outfit and then she tells them that, you know, doctor's order and that she had a facelift a month ago. Then Bronwyn invites all the ladies to go to San Francisco next week because it's Saint Patrick's Day. I don't know what one has to do with the other, but okay.

Lori (23:41.917)
Hmm.

Lori (24:02.907)
I don't know either, but okay.

Wendy (24:05.186)
And I do like the fact that this is where she used to live and this is like her hometown and she's gonna take them to her favorite places. Like I'm excited to see that. I think that's the reason to go to San Francisco.

Lori (24:13.459)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (24:19.883)
I don't like that Brahmaon was shading what Kwai was wearing though. Because ma'am excuse me, ma'am, she's not running around in a big inflated dinosaur suit. So settle down.

Wendy (24:23.894)
I don't either. Yeah.

Lori (24:25.597)
Yeah, she looks good. Yeah.

Right. So pipe down. Pipe down.

Wendy (24:30.645)
No, yeah.

Wendy (24:35.576)
But I I will say this, I did love the fact that Bronwyn was shading Lisa for th throwing this event at the mountain when she doesn't in fact know how to ski. And to even get her ass up to the top of the mountain, having no idea how to ski, it just does kind of blow my mind too. And honestly, the fact that Bronwyn called her out on it and it just yes, absolutely you should be calling her out on it.

Kelli (24:43.478)
Yes.

Lori (24:45.821)
When she doesn't ski. Yeah, that was great.

Lori (24:57.17)
Wild.

Kelli (25:03.701)
Skiing I went skiing one time and I stayed on the bunny hail. Now, I don't I don't recommend that. I recommend being a little bit more risky than that, but I didn't have anybody with me because the person I went with was a good skier, and he of course went to the top of the mountain and was like, peace out. But if if you do why were they getting on the lift to go where the other ladies were? Like Heather and Whitney, we have seen them ski in snowboard, they're very good.

Lori (25:19.24)
Uh-huh.

Lori (25:25.021)
We're going. If you

Lori (25:29.885)
Yeah. I don't yeah. I don't know what they were thinking.

Kelli (25:32.747)
Don't go up there with them.

Wendy (25:33.014)
I don't know either. It was hysterical though. I was totally laughing. It was you know, I was there for it.

Kelli (25:41.759)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:43.538)
Wendy (25:47.245)
We find out that Meredith actually met Kwai at the s at a Sundance party, and sh they're talking about how they're hoping that Whitney and Meredith will be able to get along in San Francisco. This is before this is one that on the bottom of the mountain. then you know, Lisa Whitney comes down, they come down to the mountain and she pulls Lisa aside and she wants to apologize. And she does and

Lisa says she doesn't want to go through it all again. And, you know, you hold the bar you hold the bar higher for me than you do for yourself, she said. And Whitney said, listen, I beat myself up. I I think it was a fair statement. I do, I do, but and like Whitney said, but you know, I do beat myself up. You may not know that I do that. But they she accepted the apology, is basically it. But she did say on Watch What Happens live.

Kelli (26:27.979)
I thought that was a fair statement, quite honestly. I thought that was a fair statement.

Lori (26:30.429)
Yeah, absolutely.

Wendy (26:45.066)
That she accepted the apology. They didn't show us that they agreed that there needed to be a bigger conversation. So I hope that doesn't mean we have to see more of it.

Lori (26:52.862)
Okay.

Lori (26:57.022)
Yes.

Kelli (26:57.291)
I was just gonna say, did she somehow indicate that we're gonna see a bigger conversation?

Wendy (27:02.903)
I don't know.

Lori (27:03.793)
Okay, but wait a second, because we skipped something. So Meredith is not skiing because of her facelift. But what about Whitney's confessional where she says where she lets it slip that Meredith's wearing a wig? That was great. That was awesome. I did. Yes. The week before I said there was a lot of people on social media saying that she was looking like she was wearing a wig.

Wendy (27:07.031)
Okay.

Kelli (27:21.919)
And you said that last week or the week before. Yeah. Lori said it.

Wendy (27:24.332)
A lot of people have said that.

Lori (27:32.893)
But it was just so funny because I, you know, I might be naive, but I kinda thought that that was like a real slip 'cause the producer was like the producer was like, she never said she was wearing a wig. you think she did on purpose?

Wendy (27:41.248)
No, you're totally naive. No, it wasn't a slip. She did that on purpose. I think she sh

Kelli (27:41.564)
I think so too.

Kelli (27:47.687)
I thought I honestly thought it was a slip too, I'm not gonna lie.

Lori (27:50.427)
I thought it was slip too. look at this. Now this is a turnaround.

Wendy (27:51.959)
and this so is a turnaround I thought she did it on purpose. It is funny. But either way, the wig and the face look facelift looks fabulous, so keep doing it.

Kelli (27:54.046)
I know. I really thought I thought it was a slip and I can't stand Whitney, but I really thought she it was an accident.

Lori (27:58.964)
That's so funny. And here and here is Wendy going like, no. So funny.

Kelli (28:04.705)
Ha

Kelli (28:15.155)
It really does. And I've noticed in the past couple of seasons, Meredith's Meredith's hair was getting a little thin, and it's happening to all of us because of our age, unfortunately. So wear the wig. It looks great. Everybody else is putting extensions in their hair. Wear the wig. It's easier. And it's not breaking your hair like the extensions do.

Lori (28:24.381)
Yes, absolutely, yes.

Wear the wig, yep.

Wendy (28:29.474)
Do what you gotta do. Do what you gotta do.

Lori (28:33.619)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (28:39.789)
Yeah.

Lori (28:40.051)
That's right.

Wendy (28:45.402)
so then they get on the bus and then Heather apologizes to Lisa for the Ultimate Girls trip and she admits that she was drinking too much and that she was being mean, which again I give her credit for owning up to it and I th it seemed like Lisa accepted it.

Lori (29:06.693)
Yeah. I so have a question. So when they're but went going back, like when they're on the lift, who were they calling Chirps? Did you guys catch that? I think they're calling Angie Chirps 'cause they said it a couple of times as a nickname. And I was like, Who are they calling Chirp? I think it's Angie. Yep, a couple of times a couple of times they was calling 'cause they like, Come on, Chirps, door don't fall chirp like

Wendy (29:12.142)
Mm.

Kelli (29:17.163)
I did not catch that.

Wendy (29:25.932)
I didn't catch it. I didn't catch it because Angie didn't know how to ski either.

Kelli (29:27.381)
Me neither.

Lori (29:34.375)
I think it was Angie, so I think that's her nickname. I don't know why. Chirps, they were calling it, yeah.

Kelli (29:38.743)
Well we'll have to find that out. But it was pretty funny that they shut the whole lift down. Cause they sat on some guy's lap.

Wendy (29:47.299)
That was hysterical. I think it was the cameraman's lap they sat on because did you see what happened with the camera? Look at the camera went down. Yes. It was the cameraman. I she sat on I think she sat on the cameraman.

Lori (29:51.162)
I don't know, it was funny.

Kelli (29:52.224)
Was it real?

Lori (29:54.568)
Yes, everything fell. So I think you're right. I think it was the camera guy. That's great.

Kelli (29:58.676)
my god, that's so funny.

That's hysterical. That's great.

Lori (30:03.273)
Great.

Wendy (30:09.102)
So the next stop is a place called Eight Settlers Distillery. And we walk in the place and Lisa's face and picture is everywhere. Everywhere. I don't know. I don't know.

Lori (30:21.457)
Mm.

Kelli (30:22.347)
What was that?

Lori (30:24.275)
Too much. She's so annoying. my God. It's weird.

Kelli (30:25.921)
So weird.

Wendy (30:28.366)
I don't know.

Kelli (30:30.697)
Is she gonna announce her single coming out? Like what is it a release part? What is going on?

Lori (30:36.329)
it's too much. I was like

Wendy (30:38.466)
I d I don't know. I do not know.

Lori (30:42.353)
It was cringy.

Kelli (30:43.421)
It takes it takes a lot of

Kelli (30:50.551)
I don't wanna I mean she is a narcissist obviously. I guess narcissistic behavior to do that.

Lori (30:55.421)
To do that, yeah. There's a whole lot of self love going on there.

Kelli (30:59.381)
I don't think she's a an you know vindictive narcissist. I just think that she's has narcissistic behaviors. Like she's not like a narcissistic man who's abusive to his wife. You know what I mean? Like I feel like there are levels of narcissism. She's at one, but she's not at the worst one.

Wendy (31:00.024)
yes.

Lori (31:07.183)
No, yeah. Yes.

No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, absolutely. Yes, yes.

Wendy (31:20.526)
So then they're all sitting down at the table, and Whitney, you know, says to Meredith, I said some really horrible things about you on stage, and I feel really bad, and I'm very sorry about my behavior. And she's crying while she's saying it. She said she lost control. She's like, I don't hate you. I hate how I behaved, and I'm sorry. Whitney said, You don't have to accept it. I'm just asking if from here we can move forward. And Meredith said, Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

I was like, okay, all right, there you have it.

Kelli (31:52.919)
Exactly what she said.

Lori (31:53.438)
Well And for some reason I don't know why, maybe it's because right before that from Whitney's confessional where she talks about the wig, but for some reason to me at the dinner Meredith's wig was looking very wiggy.

Wendy (32:10.51)
That's so funny.

Lori (32:13.257)
I don't know. I don't know. I just wrote it down. It's looking it was looking very wiggy to me. It was the angle. I don't know what was going on.

Kelli (32:15.093)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (32:23.512)
So Meredith says that she's not accepting fiction and I'm not ex accepting storytelling in her con in her confessional. She said this is what she's done for years. She always does this and then she says she's sorry. But I did really like that the other ladies at the table, and what I mean the other ladies, every other person at the table had Whitney's back and said, Listen, she apologized to you. Like we, you know, we we're moving forward. And then even, you know.

Kelli (32:44.598)
Yes.

Wendy (32:53.452)
Heather really had her back. She said, Listen, we've all swallowed things at this table. Do you, you know, you want to die on that hail? What about what about you calling me a pill popper and saying that I'm homophobic? And Meredith's like, Well, I didn't say you were homophobic. Well, she didn't deny the pill popper. And no. And then Bronwyn jumps in and Bronwyn's like, She said to Bronwyn, did she say that? She goes, Well, it was implied. You did imply it. And

Kelli (33:10.423)
She didn't.

Kelli (33:19.361)
But it was on a podcast and it was ki it was it was a very odd way th I I honestly I didn't take it like that, but you know, it was she was saying I guess that I don't even know what she was saying, but it to me it didn't come off as homophobic when they played it back. But I c I could be way off.

Lori (33:35.561)
Yeah.

Lori (33:43.897)
And not for nothing, but if memory serves me correctly and that's a frightening thought. But didn't Meredith say that about Heather because they were saying it about Meredith first?

Wendy (33:51.822)
Ha ha.

Wendy (34:00.675)
Well I don't I mean the pill popping thing. Yes. Well, because yes

Lori (34:01.949)
pill popping thing? Like Yeah. Yeah. Like they were coming for Meredith a little bit saying that they were they thought something was wrong with her and blah blah blah and then

Kelli (34:03.734)
the pill popping thing. Maybe yes, probably. Yes, probably.

Kelli (34:13.067)
Yes.

Lori (34:17.969)
And then and then Meredith said, Well, you know, you guys gave me like a sleeping pill like so it was I don't know, that one

Kelli (34:25.207)
Yeah, the whole thing is like weird. But you're right, 'cause the one the one season and it might have been last season, they were saying that Meredith was up in the middle of the night vomiting and crying. I think it was Brittany who said it, and you know d well Heather was said to Britney, you need to bring that up on camera.

Lori (34:34.023)
Yes, the whole thing. Yes, on that trip, yes.

of course, yeah.

Wendy (34:41.762)
Mm-hmm. And then it was the whole plane. It was the whole plane incident that happened. That's with the whole pill with the whole plane incident with Brittany.

Kelli (34:42.401)
But I felt like the home of God, I forgot about the plane thing, yeah.

Lori (34:46.813)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (34:51.069)
I forgot about that. there is listen, Meredith is like Teresa, fool her once, you're done. You're dead. Meredith is never forgiving Whitney because Whitney doubled down on how Britney said she behaved on the plane. Whitney was like the number one person backing Britney's story up. So Whitney's dead to Meredith. There's nothing she can say or do.

Lori (34:51.409)
Right. Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (34:53.27)
Yeah, that's what it was. That's what the whole

Wendy (35:15.918)
She was. Yes, she was. 100% she was. And that's why Meredith is so strong about it. But like I said, I love that everyone else at that table really jumped on Whitney's side. And even Ashley, Ashley starts clapping at everybody, like, like, stop, like this is and they're like, shut her down. Like, you don't know this. Like you can't get involved in this. And I was like, they're they're putting her right in her place. But then Angie says, Listen.

Kelli (35:20.609)
Yeah.

Kelli (35:33.196)
Yeah.

Lori (35:39.953)
Right, ooh.

Kelli (35:42.988)
Yeah.

Wendy (35:44.813)
You know, we were at my house last week and we were all getting along and we agreed that we're gonna move forward, like life is short. So we don't know. It kinda ends there. We don't know if Merritt is going to agree to move forward or not. I mean probably not because she's difficult.

Lori (36:01.939)
Well listen, Meredith holds a grudge tighter than her face.

Kelli (36:06.593)
For sure. Seriously.

Wendy (36:06.734)
She does.

Lori (36:08.553)
I saw that online, I like, I gotta steal that. I forget who said it but I was like, that's a good one.

Kelli (36:11.637)
Yeah. I have the taglines.

Wendy (36:12.396)
Yeah.

Wendy (36:16.361)
you do?

Kelli (36:17.6)
I do.

Lori (36:18.653)
But the the end of the episode was like exhausting when they all started yakking and fighting and I was like I I'm just exhausted now. So what are the lines?

Kelli (36:23.903)
I can't stand it when they all start yelling at each other.

Mm-hmm. Lisa's is I put a song in my heart to replace the knife in my back. I actually kind of like that one. Heather's is I don't kiss and tell, I publish and sell. Meredith Marks, this year I'm turning up the bass and showing off my new face. Why do they all feel like they have to rhyme? Whitney's, I've always been a rose. Again with the rose, but now I'm in full bloom.

Wendy (36:36.718)
Ha ha

Lori (36:54.877)
Enough.

Kelli (36:58.451)
Mary's in my darkest time I found the light. Angie Kay, I have a sharp tongue, but it never makes for a dull moment. Bromwin, you collect rumors while I'm collecting designers. And that's it. So Qui doesn't have a tagline and neither does Britney.

Lori (37:19.881)
All right, so we'll see.

Kelli (37:22.103)
We shall see.

Wendy (37:22.296)
We'll see. It does look like Ashley gets in the mix next week though and star is fighting I might even be with Whitney. with Bronwyn. I don't know. We'll see. We'll have to wait and see t next week.

Kelli (37:29.483)
I think Bronwyn. I thought it was Bronwyn.

We'll see. Yeah.

Lori (37:35.047)
We'll see.

Wendy (37:38.83)
Alright, so until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five-star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (37:45.579)
Bye.

Lori (37:46.635)
Aye.