Wendy (00:01.826)
Welcome to Wee Wime and Ever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.416)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:05.399)
and on Lori.

Wendy (00:07.502)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Season 6, Episode 13, Greek for the Week. Yes, that is a good name for this one.

Kelli (00:19.167)
sure is.

Lori (00:21.005)
I mean, I love Angie Kay, but sometimes she could just... He's up on the Greek thing. Just a little. Sometimes it's a lot. Like it's a little... I get it. I get it, but sometimes it's like,

Kelli (00:27.339)
It's a lot.

Kelli (00:34.944)
Yeah. I mean, it's obviously her thing. This is what she wants to focus on, but.

Wendy (00:35.361)
Yeah.

Lori (00:40.117)
It can be a bit much, right? Yeah.

Kelli (00:41.558)
Yes.

Wendy (00:43.712)
I think there could be worse things, so I'm here for it. We start out at Angie's house with her dad and her aunt Rita, and Mary and Heather are there, and they're getting a quick little Greek lesson on some words and phrases they need to learn how to say, and they want to learn how to say, up, piss off, and you have no manners. I was like, okay, they should be fine once they learn those phrases.

Lori (00:46.073)
Absolutely, yeah. There certainly could be worse things.

Lori (01:09.409)
And you like how the production flashed to Lisa right after they said, you have no manners. stop.

Kelli (01:17.056)
and she was name dropping all of her labels to John who lives with you. he's pretty well aware of your labels. You really don't have to name drop to your husband.

Wendy (01:17.154)
Yes.

Lori (01:25.793)
Yeah. Yeah. Right. He get, he sees the bells. Yeah. Yeah. But

Kelli (01:30.612)
Right. real quick, did, yeah, or maybe he doesn't. Did you guys see that Brittany has a cabaret show and the girls did, they did the, scene out of Mean Girls where they did the talent show. So funny. That was really funny.

Wendy (01:31.456)
Or maybe he doesn't.

Lori (01:37.463)
Yes, I did see that.

Lori (01:44.085)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yep. So funny. But like Lisa, sorry, Lisa doesn't even make sense though with her. have like 60 Chanel bags. What are you even talking? What are you even saying? What are you saying? Are you saying that you're bringing 60 Chanel bags on your trip to Greece? What is it that you are saying?

Wendy (01:49.335)
It's so funny because...

Wendy (02:08.184)
She's bragging. It's just about bragging. That's what she does.

Kelli (02:09.42)
She's just bragging. Right.

Lori (02:10.891)
It just, doesn't even, doesn't even make any sense, so it's like you're just talking out your ass.

Wendy (02:15.0)
That's what bragging is. That's what bragging is.

Kelli (02:16.768)
And it's so funny because you're kind of under fire for certain behavior. And instead of trying to, and listen, not that you should care what people think about you, but instead of trying to be like, no, there's more to me than that. It's like, she's just doubling down on the fact that she is this materialistic person. Yeah, it's no self-awareness, none.

Wendy (02:40.824)
Yes, she has no self-awareness, none.

Lori (02:43.449)
None, none. It was just crazy to me. I just didn't even know what she was talking about. was like, it doesn't even make sense.

Wendy (02:52.558)
No, it didn't make sense. I was just gonna mention about Britney. she was at, what is it called? Feinstein 54. That's one of the places actually Matt wants to perform at. That's one of his goals is to perform there and he's kind of writing his own kind of like one person show to do there. But she did so well at selling tickets, she wound up adding another night there. Yeah.

Kelli (03:18.469)
Arr!

Lori (03:19.225)
There you go.

Wendy (03:19.968)
And I honestly, I should have tried to get tickets because I would have loved to go see her perform because first of all, I do think she can sing and I...

Kelli (03:27.19)
She is very talented.

Lori (03:28.109)
Definitely. Very talented, yeah.

Wendy (03:29.996)
I think she's entertaining. just think she's very entertaining. And I don't know if you saw, but Jared also sang there with her.

Kelli (03:37.036)
I did see that. I did.

Lori (03:37.242)
god, no.

Wendy (03:38.242)
Yes, he did. He did.

Lori (03:40.761)
What's he trying to use his like Osmond jeans to like stop.

Kelli (03:44.843)
Yes.

Wendy (03:46.016)
Yes. Yes. Matt was critiquing him.

Kelli (03:48.128)
Exactly.

Lori (03:49.633)
And now, Lord, now also too, when they, production so funny, was when they were talking about asking Angie's father and the aunt how to say snooze fest. I love how they cut into then the scene with Meredith and her daughter, which was an absolute snooze fest. was like, what are we even doing? Why are you wasting my time with this stupid scene?

Kelli (04:15.06)
Right. Right.

Wendy (04:17.718)
Yeah. So then the ladies all meet up at the airport and I guess Angie handed them all out the Greek flag glasses because they were all wearing them in the airport.

Kelli (04:29.29)
they were all very comfortably appropriately dressed to fly.

Lori (04:33.234)
Yes, I saw that. noticed that. was like, good job, girls. think it's...

Kelli (04:37.62)
I do think they at some point changed into pajamas, but even getting there they all had their very comfortable tracksuits on. Yes.

Lori (04:43.363)
Comfortable, yes, comfortable. I think it was like a 14 hour flight too. I think it was long. And did anybody catch what Brittany had? What Brittany was traveling with? Did anybody catch it?

Wendy (04:57.491)
I did, the stuffed bear.

Lori (05:01.847)
It was a stuffed animal. was like, you gotta be shitting me. It was a blue stuffed bear. Yes, it was. It was a blue stuffed bear. I was just curious if you saw it. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (05:03.794)
god, he went to fucking build a bear again?

Wendy (05:04.972)
was a blue stuffed bear. Wasn't it a bear? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did, I was like, yeah, I saw it. I'm like, why is she carrying this through the airport? Like, what are you kidding me? I did notice that.

Kelli (05:19.148)
He must have like a he must have like a coupon thing at build a bear like you build nine bears you get one free

Lori (05:27.767)
Be come one free. It's great.

Wendy (05:33.848)
So then they arrive in Santorini, Greece and their driver Nikos meets them at the airport. First of all, I've never been to Greece. It is definitely on my bucket list. Laurie, you've been there, haven't you?

Kelli (05:46.496)
Me too.

Lori (05:48.181)
No, no, it's been on mine. And I really want to go, I want to go with my friends who are Greece, who are Greece, good Lord, my friends who are Greek. Yeah. Cause I think that will like really make it super special. My friend Karen went for like two weeks. my God. The pictures. Stunning. Yes.

Wendy (05:51.152)
okay.

Wendy (05:56.552)
Greek.

Wendy (06:06.286)
looks stunning. It looks stunning.

Kelli (06:07.648)
Yeah. That's always been that and obviously Italy, but Greece, just the architecture, the scenery, it's just gorgeous. Right. Of course. Yeah.

Wendy (06:12.183)
Yes.

Lori (06:14.009)
Mm-hmm, everything. And the food. the food.

Wendy (06:17.165)
Yes.

Wendy (06:21.378)
I did think it was a little interesting that they went from the airport right to the restaurant to eat. Like they didn't even stop at the hotel first. They went right from the airport to the restaurant. again, I think it was a two day travel. I think that's what they said. So I know that there was some sort of layover because that's when we find out about the whole Cartier thing.

Kelli (06:26.996)
Me too.

Kelli (06:32.032)
No shower, no freshening up.

Kelli (06:44.033)
Cardi, hey.

Wendy (06:45.536)
I'm thinking perhaps New York they had, I'm assuming they had to get from Salt Lake to New York to get to Greece. I'm thinking they had to go out of, yeah, but I don't know. I don't know what their flight arrangements were.

Lori (06:52.653)
You would think. I don't know.

Kelli (06:58.646)
Did you guys hear Heather say I just want a green cigarette?

Wendy (07:02.646)
No!

Kelli (07:04.277)
So she said, I just want a green cigarette. And I was like.

Lori (07:04.537)
I thought she said I just want a Greek cigarette.

Kelli (07:09.876)
No, she said green. So I was like, the smoker in me was like, well, I gotta look into this. Because first I thought it was just like a joint, a green cigarette. But a grease green cigarette refers to either a green packaged menthol cigarette, that's not what she was talking about, or the actual green tobacco grown in grease. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (07:18.081)
Right.

Lori (07:30.506)
We see you Heather.

Wendy (07:32.451)
Okay.

Lori (07:33.61)
I thought you said Greek.

Kelli (07:36.402)
Now she said green, I clocked that and I was like, I gotta look into this. What is that? Cause I thought it was like a, you know, me. I'm like, is that a healthier tobacco? Like, can I get this so I can smoke again?

Lori (07:41.401)
what that's about.

Lori (07:47.918)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:48.01)
Right.

Kelli (07:50.541)
It actually does say that the natural American spirit cigarettes do use that green tobacco, which is what I have been smoking for probably the past 10 years.

Lori (08:00.557)
would and probably actually is probably actually is healthier.

Kelli (08:06.23)
Well, I, yeah, I still can't smoke, but damn it.

Wendy (08:13.24)
So while they're at dinner, they're saying that they're going to hopefully be relaxing the next day. And that's when we find out that they've been traveling for two days. And Angie says, well, good thing I got the bags removed from underneath my eyes. And Lisa said, what do you mean? And she said, well, they take, you have fat pads underneath your eyes. And they take like these chopsticks and they break it up and they smooth it out. And I was like, wait, what? Is this a thing?

Kelli (08:38.572)
So I don't know, but I'm gonna look into it, because look, I got one right here. Fucking Vavala bags. So I'm looking into this, because it doesn't sound like it's a surgical procedure. it is. Why do you think they use chopsticks? Well, that's a relief. But it is a surgical, because it sounded to me like it was like something that they could do like in a facial or something.

Lori (08:40.569)
Yes, oh absolutely, yes it is a thing.

Lori (08:50.097)
no, it's a surgical procedure and they do not use chopsticks.

Lori (08:57.763)
Yes.

Lori (09:01.302)
It is.

I don't think so. I'm not sure, but I think it is a surgical procedure.

Wendy (09:13.006)
Honestly, it's too early for you to do it. You don't have bad bags. No, you don't. You don't. You don't. You really don't. Kelly's like, yes, I do. No, you don't. Meanwhile, Heather lifts up her wrist and she says, what time is it? And then they're like, your watch is beautiful. And she's like, well, I bought a Cartier. And Lisa said, well, I'm happy for you.

Lori (09:41.879)
Yeah, Heather says, Lisa, I, Lisa's not going to like this. I think to myself, what? And then she explained.

Wendy (09:52.214)
Yeah, her confessional, she explained that during the layover, Angie and Lisa got into it over Angie's Cartier watch. And Lisa accused Angie of copying her. it's like, what do you mean she's copying you? Like, Cartier is an international brand that has been around forever. Did she have the exact Cartier watch you were wearing? And if she did, who cares? There's only so many different styles. Like, who cares?

Lori (10:03.107)
Ugh.

Kelli (10:21.814)
Right, it's like Rolex, right? I mean, I don't know if it costs, no, it doesn't cost as much as a Rolex, but it's like a, you know, it's a name brand that people desire to have and, you know.

Wendy (10:24.301)
Yes.

Lori (10:28.953)
It's been around forever. Right.

Lori (10:34.039)
Except for Mary, who says it's a grandma watch. She's so funny.

Wendy (10:34.371)
Yes.

Kelli (10:36.266)
It's a grandma watch.

Wendy (10:38.51)
to tell you ladies I do have a Cartier watch. I purchased it in Jamaica 20 years ago. Andrew's 21. 20 years ago. No, 21 years ago because he was, I purchased it 21 years ago in Jamaica and about two or three years ago I kept getting the batteries changed for it and they're like no we can't change it you have to bring it to Cartier. I was like

Oh, okay, I'll bring it to Cartier. So I drive up to Short Hills Mall and I bring it to Cartier. And they're like, have you had this serviced? I was like, no, what do you mean have it? It's a watch, what do you mean? It's not like it's a car. What do I have to change its oil? What are you talking about? You changed the battery, right? It's a watch. They're like, no, you need to have this serviced every so many years. I was like, oh, no. And they're like, okay, well, we need to service it before we can change the battery. I was like, okay. So I leave my watch there to get serviced. think it was like,

Lori (11:22.009)
Bye.

Wendy (11:35.598)
I want to say it was like $300, which by the way, was the best $300 I ever spent. They had it for a couple of weeks. They called me up, it's ready. They like polished the whole bracelet on my watch. Any scratches that were on the glass. Like it was like a brand new, it looked like a brand new watch. And I was like, absolutely, absolutely. So that's my little Cartier story. And when Mary made that comment about grandmas, I was like,

Kelli (11:51.636)
Yeah. Yeah, so that's worth 300 bucks.

Lori (11:56.089)
Sure.

Kelli (12:01.43)
Yeah.

Wendy (12:04.436)
Listen, honey, I am not a grandma and I was not even close to being a grandma when I got my cardia.

Kelli (12:06.854)
You

Lori (12:09.941)
I bought it, right? I thought it was so funny. Right. That's probably it. Yeah. I just thought it was so funny when Heather was like, there was a BOGO at Cartier. So funny.

Kelli (12:10.774)
Right.

Her grandma probably had one.

Wendy (12:15.786)
That's probably it. That's probably it. Yeah.

Kelli (12:17.078)
That's probably why, yeah.

Wendy (12:24.373)
Yeah, so she got one for Whitney.

Kelli (12:24.78)
Well, honestly, yeah, because when they said Whitney got one too, and listen, it's none of my damn business, but I was like, I think Heather just said it was a $6,000 watch, and Whitney keeps talking about her financial issues, and she's blaming Justin, and then it was a very Lynn Curtin moment, remember, when she bought that couple thousand dollar leather jacket when her house just got, they just got evicted from their lease, you know, it was very Lynn Curtin-ish, but then.

Wendy (12:50.53)
Yes, yes.

Kelli (12:55.272)
Heather said she bought it for herself, which was very nice.

Wendy (12:56.376)
said she bought it for her. It was like Jen Pedranti when Jen Pedranti was spending money and getting glam done when she was going through getting evicted.

Lori (12:56.867)
Yeah, Steve Bordafer.

Kelli (13:02.548)
Yes. Right.

Right, exactly. Exactly.

Wendy (13:12.398)
Um, and then this, this fight gets even goes deeper because it goes from the Cartier watch to the Porsche to I've, I've had mine for 10 years. I honestly, I've been wearing it since, for, since 2016 will show me pictures and they're going back and forth, like looking for pictures of, I'm like, wait a second. Are we in middle school? Are you kidding me?

Lori (13:38.125)
Yes, stop it. Yes, yes we are. Yes we are.

Kelli (13:43.319)
You know what was interesting to me? Lisa made that comment that Angie is competitive and she knows what Lisa was driving when she was watching her on TV. That was a real dig. And didn't Lisa bring Angie on the show as her friend? Like didn't Angie Kay come on as Lisa's friend? I didn't like that. Because now you're basically calling her like a fan girl. But you brought on the show as your friend.

Wendy (13:58.454)
Yes.

Yes.

Lori (14:03.576)
Well,

Wendy (14:03.885)
Yes.

Lori (14:07.043)
Well, when Lisa says in her confessional that Angie is just such a jealous and competitive person, I think she's talking about herself. Talking about yourself. whatever. And I think Angie's right. think that, you know, I mean, everybody likes nice things, but to Lisa...

Kelli (14:17.77)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (14:18.222)
Mm-hmm.

Yes.

Wendy (14:25.046)
It was ridiculous. It really was. mean, it's.

Lori (14:36.053)
And even, you know, listen, when it comes to be the time that Brittany is saying something that's insightful, you're like, whoa, you know, something that was insightful, as she said about Lisa, she's very insecure and she is very insecure because all those trappings to her are part of her identity. Whereas, whereas I think Angie, you know, likes nice things and

Kelli (14:45.504)
I know, she's growing on me, Brittany.

Wendy (15:00.471)
Yes.

Lori (15:05.675)
Once in a while she can be a little competitive with it, but I don't think that they define her.

Wendy (15:12.909)
now.

Kelli (15:13.16)
No, and I think another thing is that, know, so their original, know, Lisa's an original housewife of Salt Lake City. And I think they came on the show and they got this stardom and now they're like these celebrities, basically. I mean, they have BravoCon for a reason because people will pay money to go meet these people, right? And I think that Lisa liked that so much and it fed her ego so much, but now...

Wendy (15:35.8)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (15:43.937)
Fans are starting to get hip to who these people really are and you dislike some and you still like some and Lisa hasn't had a good look for a couple years. So again, instead of her trying to show a different side of herself, she's doubling down like, look at everything I got and I had it before you and you copied me. And it's like, man, Lisa, like just show another side of yourself and

Wendy (16:03.288)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Lori (16:04.408)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (16:13.28)
Like that's what you should be doing. And basically that's what Angie was saying. Like she's more wrapped up in the material shit.

Wendy (16:18.349)
Right.

Lori (16:18.39)
Absolutely.

Lori (16:22.061)
Which is That's very sad.

Kelli (16:23.325)
It's very sad.

Wendy (16:27.104)
It really is. mean, so much so that it's not even just the material things. It's the facade. You know, the next morning they're going to the beach and Lisa's getting her glam done. They're going to the beach!

Lori (16:38.233)
Stop it! Stop it!

Kelli (16:38.846)
I was thinking the same thing. Now listen, I love makeup. By the way, I got a different Laura Geller thing. I wanted to talk to you about that, that I really like. But I love makeup, but I'll be damned if I'm putting makeup on. It's not healthy for your skin to go to the beach and sit in the sun and bake your face with makeup on it. It's just not, it's not healthy. You wake up, you wash your face, you put a very strong sunscreen on and a hat and call it a day.

Wendy (16:47.085)
Okay.

Lori (16:54.837)
No. With makeup on. No. No. No.

Wendy (16:59.245)
now.

Lori (17:06.873)
And you go right it's crazy

Kelli (17:08.576)
Yes.

Wendy (17:10.168)
Yeah, I thought that was a little bit odd, right?

Kelli (17:13.324)
Hmm?

Lori (17:14.165)
Mm, very odd.

Wendy (17:16.716)
And Lisa also then throws in, it's not an option to go on vacation without Glam. And then they cut back to, I remember when they were at Trixie's motel and she wouldn't dress, I mean, she was flipping out about how much she spends on Glam and how they come to her house every single day.

Lori (17:25.128)
that was ridiculous.

Kelli (17:33.856)
And it was such a silly thing because it was just like a game they were doing where I think it was Whitney's, like Whitney just wanted everybody to do their own glam and as a drag queen because they were at Trixie's motel. Like it was such a silly thing that she had this overreaction to.

Lori (17:40.441)
So silly.

Wendy (17:46.465)
Right, right.

Lori (17:47.097)
Goodness sake.

Wendy (17:49.741)
Right.

Lori (17:54.017)
Mm-hmm, which is quite telling.

Kelli (17:56.961)
Yes. Yes. That was your first season watching Salt Lake City, wasn't it, Lord? I thought so.

Wendy (17:59.682)
Yeah.

Lori (18:01.975)
Yes, yes it

Wendy (18:06.242)
And that was when we got Mary back. That was the first season we got Mary back, because we lost Mary for a couple years. And then she came back. Yes, and she was so annoying just sitting in the van for that trip. She didn't want to even get out. She didn't want to participate. I was like, ugh.

Kelli (18:08.97)
Yes.

And she was just a friend of, remember?

Lori (18:19.821)
Yep, she didn't wanna do nothin'.

Didn't she just go to like McDonald's and shit? She didn't want to not that.

Wendy (18:26.346)
Yes, yes.

Kelli (18:26.678)
She had, yeah, but think about it. Think about, now look back. Think about what she was probably going through. Robert Jr. probably was just starting to have his issues and she probably didn't know what the fuck was going on with him. All she knew that her kid was all of a sudden acting extremely different, extremely distant. That's, it's the worst feeling in the world when your kid flips like that and you don't know how to help them.

Lori (18:42.391)
Right. Yep.

Wendy (18:52.323)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:54.294)
So that's probably what she was going through at that time.

Lori (18:56.281)
Probably right.

Wendy (18:57.708)
Yeah, it probably was. So they're all gonna go to the beach and they're in the van and Heather is sitting next to Meredith and Meredith kind of whispers to her like, know, I'd like to talk to you later. I'd like to have a conversation. And in her confessional, Heather's like, you know what? There's nothing for me to talk about with her. She called me a liar. I'm not gonna sit down and have a conversation with her one-on-one because she's just gonna spin in her way.

It's gonna go nowhere and I'm gonna wind up apologizing for what? And I don't blame her to be quite honest with you. I don't blame her.

But that's not the last time we hear about that either.

Lori (19:37.101)
Well, listen.

Kelli (19:39.169)
No, it's not.

Lori (19:40.152)
Meredith is a lawyer and when you're dealing with somebody who is that kind of like mindset and mind frame, that's a tricky person to deal with and I don't think I would like that either. I'd be like, you know what, you already just like, totally gas lit me at that tea party and now I'm gonna meet with you one on one so you can try and...

Kelli (20:04.864)
Lunch, yeah.

Wendy (20:06.381)
Yeah.

Lori (20:09.613)
Gaslight me again. Heather was probably like, no, I'm not. I'm I'm not doing it.

Kelli (20:15.296)
And the thing is, that Meredith probably wanted to talk to Heather by herself because Whitney wouldn't be there because Whitney clearly has an agenda with Meredith and I don't blame her because I agree. I don't think Meredith shows us anything that's real in her life. And Meredith probably figured, yes, she's an attorney. She can speak a certain way. She could twist things. She can gaslight. But she also is, is dealing with Heather who

Lori (20:36.345)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (20:41.664)
wants to be liked by her and Lisa so much that Heather's just gonna, just like Brittany was like, okay, I forgive you. Because Brittany wants to be with the group.

Lori (20:46.553)
you would fault.

Wendy (20:51.181)
Right, right.

Wendy (20:55.67)
Yeah. So they get to the beach and Angie puts on her Greek flag bucket hat for like a half a minute. And Mary says that that is ruining your outfit. She's like, yeah, I'm going to take it off. But then she goes on to explain her face shape. She's like, let me see your face, Heather and Bronwyn. She decides that Heather and Bronwyn both have bucket shaped faces.

Lori (21:05.913)
I'm sorry.

Lori (21:13.303)
Yeah, she's such a odd bird, Mary, I'm telling you. She's an odd bird.

Lori (21:25.133)
Like what's a bucket? I guess like this, like a triangle-ish, like a bucket that's smaller at the bottom. I was trying to figure it out.

Wendy (21:25.356)
And that if you

Kelli (21:31.902)
I think that is what she was talking about, I, you know, I went to cosmetology school. I learned about face shapes. have never in my life heard of a bucket face shape. Yeah. Pie shaped I've heard of, but that's probably similar.

Wendy (21:32.652)
Nobody knows.

Wendy (21:39.17)
Was Bucket not one of them? How about a pie-shaped face?

You have? Okay, because she's like, people with a bucket shaped face are very intelligent. They're very smart. Like they take in a lot of information. I was like, wait, what? What are you talking about? And then.

Kelli (21:49.014)
Yeah.

Lori (22:00.388)
They must fill up their bucket.

Kelli (22:02.294)
But when she got to the square face and they went right to Brittany, she's like, they're dumb bats. Dumb bats? Ning bats, thank you. I'm like, that didn't sound right. I haven't drank because I was so sick. I'm having one glass of wine. I'm all tipsy.

Wendy (22:07.182)
Ding bats, ding bats.

Lori (22:08.715)
I that's...

Wendy (22:13.905)
Ha

Yeah, she's called them a dingbat. I was like, boy.

Kelli (22:19.946)
And it was somebody else, was Brittany and who else? Meredith? Who else did they show with the square face? Yeah, and Lisa.

Lori (22:26.713)
I think it was Meredith. I think you're It's so funny.

Wendy (22:28.108)
I think it was Meredith, yeah.

Kelli (22:31.616)
Yeah, that was fun.

Wendy (22:31.982)
Yeah.

So then they go to lunch and I loved that when they got to the place for lunch on the beach, Angie had already ordered all her favorites for the table already. I love when they do this and I'm sure Mary loves it especially because she's the one who's always saying I want food, right?

Kelli (22:44.768)
Yep. Absolutely.

Lori (22:49.379)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (22:52.782)
So then.

Kelli (22:52.919)
Next time we go to happy hour, let's order ahead. We always know what we're getting.

Wendy (22:56.526)
I know, right? So then Angie throws it out there if you've seen any men that you like and got their numbers. And Heather said, well, I saw that one guy out on the flamingo and they show you some guy out on the flamingo. And then Angie asked Bronwyn, what about her? And Bronwyn's like, well, no, I'm married. And Angie said, well, you threw it out there that maybe.

Lori (22:56.818)
Yeah, yeah, right.

Wendy (23:24.13)
you know, was possibly you're gonna have an open marriage. Listen, I didn't like that she did this. I really didn't like that Angie did this. I think it was not called for. It wasn't the right place. It wasn't.

Kelli (23:29.568)
Me neither. No.

Lori (23:30.231)
No.

Lori (23:37.241)
Yeah, it did not land well. Did not land well.

Kelli (23:38.836)
I agree.

Wendy (23:39.328)
No, I didn't like it. And I didn't like that nobody had her back either. Nobody had Bronwyn's, no one had Bronwyn's back. I mean, none of them. Except for Meredith. Meredith! I'm...

Kelli (23:45.701)
I totally agree.

Lori (23:50.83)
But, right, Meredith thought people. But this is the thing though, you can't sit there in Whitney's house and have a conversation. And then because somebody brings something up.

Kelli (23:53.312)
Meredith.

Lori (24:07.651)
that you're not digging, can't just be like, act like, don't act like Meredith, don't act like the conversation never took place. that's the only problem I had with it. I get it that I don't think it was cool that Angie did it, but I mean, Bronwyn, instead of just being so prickly about it, she just like made a joke or something and just kind of blew, you know I mean? Just blew it off, but.

Kelli (24:29.6)
Yes. She shouldn't have acted like flabbergasted that somebody would ask that question after the conversation she had.

Lori (24:34.763)
Right, like don't act like shit never happened, like you never said it.

Wendy (24:41.474)
I think because she, after she said it, she had the conversation with Todd and Todd got really offended by it and got really mad with her about saying that and even putting it out there and discussing it with her friends. Yes, because she told him what the conversation was and she said that I told these ladies and he was very mad. So I think as soon as Angie brought it up, she's like, I cannot have this conversation.

Lori (24:52.601)
Yeah, that you made them leave and stuff. Yeah.

Lori (24:59.488)
Right.

Kelli (24:59.574)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:10.59)
I am not gonna piss off Todd again. Like that's what I think was going through her mind.

Lori (25:13.239)
Right, that's right, right, right.

Kelli (25:14.89)
Listen, Todd, if you're clearly out doing something or have done something in the past, so don't get so offended when your wife approaches the subject of opening things up and her possibly doing something. If you're in it, you're in it, then be in it and be faithful. But you're right, that's probably why she reacted the way she did.

Lori (25:33.559)
Right. I've been like, I'm saying, right, but she could have just, she should have just made a joke. It would have just.

Kelli (25:39.916)
She should have made a joke because that would have been very on brand for Brom.

Lori (25:43.457)
Right, and-

Wendy (25:43.466)
It would have been, but I think she probably couldn't think of one quick enough. And the other thing that really rubbed me wrong about the whole thing is that, know, Whitney was so upset with Bronwyn for betraying her and telling Meredith what was said about the whole plane ride situation, what Bronwyn said. She was upset that Bronwyn, that she told Bronwyn and then Bronwyn went to Meredith, right? Because Bronwyn wasn't on the plane ride. Well,

Kelli (26:05.088)
went to Meredith. Right, right.

Wendy (26:11.758)
Braunwyn's actually the one who confided in you about this, Whitney. So, like, this would have been your opportunity, like, to really have had her back on this whole situation.

Kelli (26:20.129)
Yeah.

she's not gonna do that. Whitney's not gonna do that at this point, because she's coming up with some fake beef with it now.

Wendy (26:25.302)
You know?

Wendy (26:31.862)
Yeah. And then this

Lori (26:32.951)
I'm just saying because of the previous plane ride incident and then the tea party when Meredith was like totally gaslighting Heather like, no, that didn't happen. I just think it was just like, it was too much in that vein after all that.

Kelli (26:33.035)
You know.

Kelli (26:48.96)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (26:50.368)
It was. mean, and the fact that Meredith said, well, I wasn't there so I didn't hear anything about it, but I've stood in your shoes so I support the position you're in, Meredith said, but from my past experience, this is probably not going to end from this group. So buckle up, girl. Right. Right.

Kelli (27:04.768)
Right, it's not the last time it's gonna be brought up.

But in the big scheme of things, asking a married woman on a trip if she's gonna get a guy's number is just, you know, it's a little outlandish.

Wendy (27:18.784)
Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (27:22.019)
Well, you know these girls.

Kelli (27:22.272)
Like I know she had that conversation with you, but to me, I felt like Bronwyn had the conversation like open marriage where they would bring somebody in with the two of them. Not she would go do her thing and he would go do his thing. That's how I took it, right? Like they would explore together, not separately. So to me, it was still an odd thing to ask a married woman.

Wendy (27:43.725)
Yeah.

Lori (27:46.553)
Listen, these girls are always looking for their moment, you know. So they're always trying to throw spaghetti out there and see, you know, see what sticks, you

Wendy (27:46.968)
My thoughts are here.

Kelli (27:50.176)
For sure.

Yep. See what sticks. Yeah.

Wendy (27:53.934)
see what sticks. that Angie said, well, there's no judgment on my end. And then Heather said, well, I just want to know if Lisa Barlow is going to hook up with a Greek guy. And Lisa said, John is Russian, German, and Jew. I'll stick with that, which honestly was a very good quick response, to be quite honest with you. I was like, good for her.

Kelli (28:10.612)
Yeah, she was quick on her feet with that one.

Kelli (28:15.852)
But again, why would you ask Lisa? She's never given any indication that she would ever want to do that, as opposed to Brahman having this conversation with Whitney. So it's just an odd conversation. If the three of us were in Greece, I don't think any one of us would be like, so, are you gonna get somebody's number? That would never happen.

Wendy (28:19.491)
Right.

Lori (28:28.793)
You're just being shady.

Lori (28:33.068)
No!

Wendy (28:35.564)
Right. No. No, we wouldn't.

Kelli (28:38.156)
We would not put makeup on to go to the beach and we would not be getting guys' phone numbers.

Lori (28:40.321)
No. No. No, we would not.

Wendy (28:40.736)
No, no, no, we would not, no. So then they get back to the villa and it's 5.45 and they have an hour to get ready and they're gonna go shopping, they're gonna be walking, it's gonna be cobblestone and they're gonna be going to dinner at their next thing. As they're getting ready, Heather goes into Mary's room and she's like, you I don't know what's going on with Meredith, you know, she seems a little off and Mary gives her the advice that, know,

You need to have a conversation with her. You guys need to have this conversation. But that's when Heather says, I'm not interested in having a private conversation with her. And I don't blame her.

Kelli (29:20.182)
But you go to Mary's room and talk to Mary about it?

Wendy (29:23.714)
Well, I think she does go to Mary because I think, believe it or not, Mary is like, she is, I mean, she is the preacher. Yes, yes. I mean, she's already talked to Whitney about it and Whitney's gonna, you know what Whitney's gonna say. So who is she gonna go to, right? Like that's the person she's gonna go to.

Kelli (29:28.492)
She's like the voice of reason this season. And she's kind of good with everybody, so.

Kelli (29:41.536)
Yeah, right

Wendy (29:50.09)
Lisa says, so then they're all ready to go. They're all outside ready to go and they're taking pictures and Lisa's still in there getting her glam done. Meanwhile, she takes a picture of them and she's like, yeah, I'll meet you there. She's not gonna leave with them because she's gonna get her glam done. She had an hour to get ready just like they did.

Kelli (30:12.264)
I mean, I do my makeup in like 15 minutes just because I do the same thing every day, but okay. So, I mean, how long could it take your glam to do your makeup? I mean, if they're good, I mean, I see it done at the salon. It's about an hour. I mean, unless you're a bride, yeah, it could take an hour, especially if you're doing lashes and she was doing lashes. I mean, a bride and an airbrush, like,

Lori (30:23.385)
I don't know what she's doing.

I don't know what she's done.

Wendy (30:30.358)
It is? It does take that long?

Kelli (30:40.936)
Maybe adds a little time. Maybe she gets airbrushed. Maybe she gets airbrushed foundation. But still, I feel like an hour is an ample amount of time to get your makeup done. How nice was Mary's outfit and how fucking comfortable did she look?

Lori (30:53.625)
she looked great. It was so on par for the location, the whole thing. It was great. It was great. Me too.

Kelli (30:58.578)
Exactly. Yes, I loved it.

Wendy (31:03.97)
What about Whitney like falling down the hill and them yelling at that guy? No, she definitely fell. felt, I actually wrote, she like slipped. Yeah, she slipped.

Lori (31:06.647)
I think she really fell. I think, I think she really fell. Yes. They slipped.

Kelli (31:09.962)
I think it was her shoes. Did you see the shoes she was wearing? Yeah, and she had those like flats where there was probably no grip and she hit the sand the right way and she wiped out. I would have been scared shitless because that was a pretty steep hill.

Lori (31:18.669)
Yep.

and down.

Lori (31:26.329)
She's lucky she didn't hurt herself really bad. But it seemed like she fell the right way. She fell the right way that she didn't really hurt herself.

Wendy (31:26.914)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:28.022)
For sure. Good thing that guy and who was helping her, Brittany? She was like, run, run.

Wendy (31:33.196)
Yeah, she's like, help, run.

Kelli (31:39.04)
Yeah.

Wendy (31:39.49)
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I wrote, no, like when she fell, like, my God, like that was a really, like that's something I would do. I was like, no, she actually fell.

Lori (31:40.686)
I don't know.

All

Lori (31:47.587)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (31:49.494)
Yeah, I typed, holy cow, Whitney totally wiped out.

Lori (31:52.673)
Yeah. And I wrote down, I'm so old, I would have broke my hip.

Wendy (31:52.875)
Hahaha!

Lori (31:59.29)
where we're at now. And I was like, oh shit, like, didn't really bad.

Kelli (32:00.215)
For sure. For sure.

you

Wendy (32:07.288)
So the ladies are out there shopping and they're wondering where Lisa is and that she's still in glam. They asked like, did Angie hear from her? And she's like, no. And Whitney's like, I did my, it took me four minutes to do my makeup and I borrowed Heather's. And I'm thinking, yep, that's probably what I would have done too. Like five minutes.

Lori (32:21.411)
That's right, what you should be doing.

Kelli (32:24.096)
Because here's the thing, if you did it right, you sat in the sun all day with your sunscreen on, but you let the sun hit your face like just the perfect amount, so you have like a sun-kissed glow, so you don't have to go crazy with the makeup, and you really just have to do up your eyes and your lips. That's right. That's right.

Lori (32:38.541)
That's what you should be doing. You know why? Because if you have that much money and your friend has a beauty lab, like you should have great skin. Then all you really need is a little touch here and there because your skin should be great. Your skin should be great if you have that kind of dough.

Wendy (32:40.684)
Right, right.

Kelli (32:50.614)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (32:58.07)
Yes.

Right, she didn't do it right.

Lori (33:04.03)
as she did something wrong, that you have to spend that amount of time.

Wendy (33:04.502)
No, no. So then the ladies walk around the corner and they're looking at the sunset and I was like, my God, it was absolutely breathtaking. It was beautiful. And all of a sudden Heather starts crying. She gets really emotional and Angie's like, every time I come to Greece, like I get emotional. And she's like, this is the kind of friend you want to bring. Like I wanted someone, this is what I wanted for these ladies to come here and to see this.

Kelli (33:19.358)
It really was.

Wendy (33:32.93)
and to experience it, and Heather actually did. And I was happy for her to be there with her friend experiencing that. Meanwhile, we see Lisa walking up by herself.

Kelli (33:46.228)
and walking like with her phone, like recording herself or just snapping pictures of herself with everything behind.

Lori (33:46.585)
my god, stop it. Stop it.

Lori (33:56.313)
can't, I can't, I can't.

Kelli (33:57.521)
I would be that person to cry though. I cry over everything. I cry in church. I go to St. Dominic's. I've been to St. Dominic's a million times in my life. Born and raised in that church. I still cry when certain songs come on. I would definitely cry if I were looking at that scenery. Yeah.

Lori (34:15.181)
Now, do you cry when you get Holy Communion? I cry every time, every time I have, every time, every time, every time I take Communion I cry, every single time, yep.

Wendy (34:15.222)
It was beautiful.

Kelli (34:19.052)
I cry in church every time.

Wendy (34:23.959)
Really?

Wendy (34:30.368)
And there's nothing wrong with that.

Lori (34:31.639)
Yeah, yeah. Just how it is.

Wendy (34:36.92)
So then there's still kind of shopping and Mary and Heather are together. Excuse me, Mary and Meredith are together. And Mary goes up to Meredith and says, you know, how she's doing. Meredith is like, you know what? I hit a rough spot, you know? I called Heather last week and she didn't call me back.

know, she doesn't seem to want to talk to me. I even said something to her on the bus and Mary said, I think you're both hurt. I think you need to just get past it and talk about it. And she gave Heather the exact same advice, right? So now she's given them both this advice and we'll see what happens. But then Lisa should, yeah.

Kelli (35:17.002)
Because honestly, listen, they're both on a, you're on a show together. So what are you gonna do? Are you gonna keep holding onto this or are you gonna eventually get over it? Because you're on a show together. So you have to move forward.

Wendy (35:21.623)
Right.

Wendy (35:29.272)
Right.

Wendy (35:33.272)
You definitely do. You can't hold on to these things forever. mean, yes, she called you a liar. listen, I would want an apology for that. But the fact of the matter is, even if she gets an apology, in her mind, Meredith is still in denial about what happened.

Kelli (35:36.14)
Now.

Kelli (35:50.101)
Everyone has to accept and I don't like it. It's either get her off the show or just accept the fact that she's never gonna be honest She's never she's gonna be who she is. She's never gonna admit to it though

Lori (36:03.437)
Right. But I think, but I think for, I think for Heather, it's the gaslighting. It's the gap that she, that's the part, that's the part that I think she just has a real problem moving past is like, don't fucking tell me that what I experienced happened, didn't happen. And I think that, and I think, I think she knows full well that

Kelli (36:04.842)
I mean, everybody has to accept it at some point.

Wendy (36:05.006)
All right.

Kelli (36:12.31)
Sure.

Wendy (36:15.48)
Yeah.

Lori (36:30.827)
Meredith knows exactly what happened and that Meredith's never gonna admit it, but I think it's that gaslighting aspect that she's like, I'm not having it.

Kelli (36:33.172)
Of course.

Wendy (36:43.254)
Right. So meanwhile, Lisa shows up at the boutique and Angie's like, well, how did you know we were here? And she's like, I just kind of walked around. And Heather said, well, the fact that she shows up three hours late in sunglasses.

Kelli (36:57.46)
and said, I've been walking around Santorini for hours.

Lori (36:57.805)
That's crazy.

Wendy (37:02.06)
Yes, in sunglasses is a little bit odd.

Kelli (37:05.43)
Kind of doubt that.

Lori (37:08.459)
It was just odd. The whole thing was odd, yeah.

Wendy (37:08.983)
I agree.

Kelli (37:09.994)
I'm sure she had producers say, bring me to where they are. Cause somebody had to stay back with her.

Wendy (37:13.708)
Yes, yes.

Lori (37:18.073)
course.

Wendy (37:18.542)
So stupid. So then the place they go to for dinner, have to go up the, there's a lot of stairs in Greece. I have noticed that. I'm not going to Greece unless I have my walking shoes and I may even get a walking, I'll get a walking stick while I'm there. But there is a lot of walking and a lot of stairs.

Lori (37:25.474)
Yes,

Kelli (37:31.596)
There you go. There's a lot of walk.

Lori (37:31.703)
Yes, there's a lot of walking and lot of steps. That's why those people live so long.

Kelli (37:37.004)
That's right.

Wendy (37:37.462)
Yes, yes, but it's another breathtaking view from up there with the night with the lights. was beautiful. It was beautiful.

Lori (37:42.723)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (37:49.272)
So then Meredith hands over to Heather the necklace that she purchases for her, the Evil Eye necklace. And it's a peace offering necklace, but she doesn't say that to her. She just says, I got this for you. And Heather's like, OK. But Bronwyn's sitting next to her saying, it's a peace offering, because Bronwyn kind of encouraged her to give her a peace offering.

Kelli (38:17.374)
I liked when Heather said, I feel like a woman who was cheated on. Like, exactly. Exactly. Yes, it is true. Yes, it is.

Lori (38:22.009)
They're giving me gifts. Yes.

Wendy (38:26.38)
It's so true, right? It was funny.

Wendy (38:32.299)
Meredith said,

Lori (38:32.409)
And I wonder, I'm sorry, I wonder, you know, because like I said, I think the real problem with Heather is the gaslighting. But you know, comments like that, I wonder how her husband did things like that. Like I wonder if that's, maybe I was, you know, I could be reading more into it, but maybe that was kind of Heather's problem with it. Maybe this was like the MO of her husband.

Kelli (39:00.076)
Yeah, sure.

Lori (39:00.641)
Like maybe he would gaslight her and then give her a gift and try and just, you know what I mean? Smooth it over and expect that she was just gonna be like, okay. I don't know.

Kelli (39:13.386)
I mean, it sounds like she was very, what's the word, subservient in her marriage. So, I'm sure, right. I'm sure there was some of that going on for sure.

Lori (39:17.463)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (39:19.758)
Well, that's what she was taught to be. Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (39:21.601)
Right. Absolutely.

Wendy (39:26.264)
So Meredith said, well, you've been very tense with me. So I thought I would buy you a gift as a peace offering. If you don't like it, then you don't have to keep it. And Heather said, listen, I'm not rejecting the gift. I'm just saying, like, let's talk about it. Meredith said, well, I was looking to do that. But I don't want to talk about it as a group. You know, I don't want to address this as a group. Like, how dare you bring this up in front of all these other people? And I like that she continued to talk about it, because who cares what you want?

Like, you're a part of a group. And not for nothing, wasn't Whitney that was jumping in, it was Lisa.

Kelli (40:02.536)
It was definitely Lisa and did you see Heather on Watwa Happens Live? They talked about the reunion and Andy said, every time Meredith or Lisa would start to talk, the other one would jump in and the other ladies would call them out and be like, no, let her talk. So.

Wendy (40:08.354)
Yes?

Lori (40:19.961)
Well, this is a kicker for me is Lisa Barlow giving friendship advice.

Wendy (40:20.845)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (40:26.553)
hahahaha

Lori (40:29.035)
Okay, Lisa.

Kelli (40:29.94)
Exactly. Who's listening to it is the question.

Wendy (40:34.753)
Yeah.

So Heather even says straight out to her, you called me a liar. And Mara said, I did not call you a liar. And that's when Lisa jumps in and said, everyone makes mistakes in friendships. Okay. But the fact of the matter is she did call her a liar. And just because she said she didn't doesn't make it true. because Lisa, you're jumping in and saying people make mistakes in friendships, she does make mistakes, but she doesn't own them.

Lori (40:42.677)
my God.

Lori (40:54.478)
didn't.

Kelli (41:04.81)
Right. Right.

Lori (41:06.179)
That's the difference.

Wendy (41:06.658)
Like, yes!

And then Lisa in her confessional says, it's a little ridiculous that Heather plays Judge Judy in every situation. What?

Lori (41:11.171)
Now.

Lori (41:21.229)
Well, the best is, and all I could think about, is Lisa's rant about Meredith's fucking half of New York. When Heather says to her, to as to Meredith, you are selective about what you have outrage for. And that's all I could think about when she said that. And I was like, ooh, I wonder if that's what she's trying to say.

Kelli (41:38.944)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (41:46.315)
Yes.

Wendy (41:47.724)
I'm surprised production didn't put that on the screen, because they should have.

Lori (41:51.619)
they should have, because I think that's exactly what she was talking about.

Kelli (41:51.766)
Yeah, they should have, yeah.

Wendy (41:53.399)
Yeah.

Kelli (41:55.882)
They never flashback to that anymore.

Wendy (41:56.29)
Yeah, they do not. They never do. And I wonder if she has it in her contract.

Kelli (42:04.332)
She probably does.

Wendy (42:06.316)
Like someone was saying today, maybe she has in her contract she can't be filmed on a plane. Like that's why there's no footage.

Lori (42:12.121)
But it's fine. Maybe. Maybe.

Kelli (42:16.364)
There's definitely footage. This is some Kathy Hilton bullshit here. There's definitely footage and they're not showing it for a reason. But I honestly think they're not showing it because it probably did, because like what, this is why I watched Watch What Happens Live last night, by the way, because Matt Rogers was on and I fucking love him. I wouldn't have watched it if Heather were on with anybody else. But he said like, six of you can't be lying. If six of you are lying,

Wendy (42:36.216)
I like Matt Rogers too.

Kelli (42:46.09)
That's a problem. So obviously Meredith and Lisa are lying about what happened on the plane. But I think if production has footage and they didn't stop it and it's an HR issue, like what Lurie has brought up, they're fucking themselves if they show us anything.

Wendy (42:52.75)
Right.

Wendy (43:09.484)
Well, absolutely at this point, at this point, they can't. They can't.

Lori (43:09.507)
Yeah, think it's, yeah.

Lori (43:14.168)
Right.

Kelli (43:16.192)
Right, it's like the black eye thing with the Genshin. Ooh, did you see she got out of prison today?

Lori (43:19.065)
Same deal. Yes.

Wendy (43:22.626)
Yes, I did see that. She's at an undisclosed location. She's at an undisclosed location.

Lori (43:24.921)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (43:25.804)
I wonder who's talked to her. Yeah, I wonder who's talked to her.

Lori (43:32.025)
I think she probably had to go to like a halfway house for a little while, right? I would imagine. I would think so. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Kelli (43:35.323)
maybe.

Wendy (43:36.49)
We don't know. We don't know because everyone has different rules, right?

Kelli (43:38.668)
Maybe. You know what I was thinking the other day? Maybe somebody in Andy's family got jammed up with one of her schemes, and that's why he's got such a hard line with her.

Lori (43:52.195)
Who knows?

Wendy (43:52.94)
You think he would say that? You think he would say that though, if that was the case?

Kelli (43:53.291)
Right?

Kelli (43:57.325)
I mean there's a reason he's got such a hard line with her. I mean it's very it's it's interesting.

Wendy (43:59.138)
I don't know either.

Wendy (44:06.359)
Yeah.

When Heather said that to her about, you you selectively choose what you have outrage for, Meredith said, and I wrote this down calmly, I don't agree with you.

If you want to hold a grudge against me, then do it.

Lori (44:29.976)
madness.

Wendy (44:31.384)
Yeah.

Lori (44:33.751)
And what about Lisa? Lisa had to turn around and make it all about her. I was like, my God.

Kelli (44:38.678)
Well, and then, and then Heather apologizes to her.

Wendy (44:42.476)
Yes, because Lisa's crying.

Lori (44:43.769)
Because she starts her crocodiles. I was like, girl, like how did this end up to be about you? Like how do you even do that?

Kelli (44:47.891)
Like what?

Right.

Wendy (44:56.878)
didn't even know what that was about.

Kelli (44:56.938)
And Lisa says, I feel like it was for show. But sometimes I do think Heather does stuff for show.

Lori (45:02.985)
absolutely, they all do. Lisa was like, Heather, you do things that are hurtful to me. And I don't know why, because I'm not doing anything to you. But that was about the lunch with Mary and Heather putting Lisa on the spot and being like, look.

Lisa agreed with something that happened with Meredith and Lisa got all pissed off that Heather called her out on it. It was like a stupid thing. It didn't make any sense for Lisa to be turning on those crocs. It was like a weird deflection thing from taking the heat off Meredith. I don't know. I don't know. It was weird. It was weird.

Kelli (45:43.872)
It was weird. And then Whitney starts crying. I'm like, why is Whitney crying?

Wendy (45:44.288)
It was a weird deflection.

Yes. Well, listen.

Lori (45:50.137)
I was like, what is this, a menopause

Kelli (45:52.066)
Exactly! What is it, Oset Church? What the fuck is going on?

Wendy (45:53.728)
think, honestly, I know, right? What they, Get a communion?

Lori (45:55.807)
I know!

Tell it, yes.

Wendy (46:03.982)
actually think Whitney was crying about the whole fact that this has nothing like everyone's mad about the situation and it's really just because Heather won't take accountability Excuse me, Meredith won't take accountability for what happens on the plane for how she treated Brittany and she's like I can't believe that this is what our friend group is all about like we every Every time we're together. This is what we're fighting about now. It's and it's ridiculous and

Kelli (46:10.006)
Yeah.

Kelli (46:15.466)
Meredith, yeah, yeah.

Lori (46:15.65)
Meredith.

for what happened. Absolutely.

Kelli (46:19.571)
Exactly.

Kelli (46:31.392)
Yeah. She's- she's- she is right!

Wendy (46:34.528)
Yes, yes.

Lori (46:35.459)
She's right.

Kelli (46:37.226)
And then Meredith says Whitney's the problem in the group. She's been stirring the pot since the start of this friend group. Like, what?

Wendy (46:45.006)
More deflection. And that's when she said, Brittany and I spoke and we worked it out. And she like nodded to Brittany and Brittany didn't respond. I mean, inter-confessional, she's like, you know, I just let it go because, you know, what's the point?

Kelli (46:46.668)
So yes.

Lori (46:46.723)
Yep. Yep.

Lori (46:56.362)
Nope. Nope.

Lori (47:04.834)
Right.

Lori (47:10.915)
So Whitney is right, Meredith messed up and they're all paying the price for it.

Kelli (47:14.976)
Right. And did she say, I don't think you have a problem, I think you are the problem though right now. Did she say, I don't think you have a problem? Okay. Whitney said that to Meredith. I don't think you have a problem, but I do think you are the problem right now. So in this group. And then Meredith gets up to leave, which is very...

Wendy (47:15.148)
Yes, yes.

Lori (47:24.777)
Yes. Whitney.

Wendy (47:25.774)
Who said that?

Wendy (47:30.443)
yes, yes, yes, yes, she did.

Wendy (47:37.464)
Well, she said, at this table has been through things clearly much worse, and she gets up and she leaves, and Lisa gets up and follows her like a little puppy dog.

Kelli (47:50.198)
does.

Lori (47:50.361)
And what did Whitney do?

Wendy (47:54.124)
Whitney... No, what did Whitney do? No. No, what did she do?

Lori (47:54.884)
Did you catch what Whitney did when Meredith got up? You didn't see it? Her hand gesture?

Wendy (48:03.468)
What was it?

Kelli (48:03.872)
to do the jerk off.

Lori (48:05.249)
She did this.

Wendy (48:07.337)
I did see that. Yes, I did. When Lee, yes. Yes, she did. Yes, I did see that. Yes, she did.

Lori (48:08.415)
Did she did a sis? Yes, she did. You did a scissoring. She did a scissoring. She did a scissoring hand hand movement talking about Meredith.

Kelli (48:09.67)
No she didn't. The scissoring?

Wendy (48:19.574)
And Lisa, she did, I did see that.

Kelli (48:24.308)
I thought she went like this. my God, I didn't catch that at all. Hysterical.

Lori (48:25.825)
No. Yes. Funny. I thought it was funny.

Wendy (48:26.164)
No, no.

Wendy (48:34.2)
So then the next we see scenes, we see scenes for next week and they're riding donkeys through Santorini, which that looks eventful. And Meredith is saying, I know, right? my gosh, I can't wait to see Mary on that one. Meredith says to Whitney, you lied about me having substance abuse problems and mental health issues. That's a lie. I'm just like, God, like we're still not done with this.

Kelli (48:34.656)
That's great.

Lori (48:45.901)
see Mary on that one.

Lori (48:50.339)
Yeah, that'd be good.

Kelli (48:50.657)
Yeah.

Kelli (49:00.438)
we go. Right.

Lori (49:02.411)
Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. So, we'll see. And did you see the reunion looks? I don't like them. Only one I like is Angie's. And I think Meredith looks really pretty. But everybody else, I think it's a hot mess. I don't know what's going on. And the show is so popular at the moment. I just can't believe they didn't have some kind of theme, like something.

Wendy (49:11.32)
Yes, I posted them.

Kelli (49:11.68)
Yes.

Kelli (49:15.766)
Me too.

Kelli (49:22.389)
Agreed.

Kelli (49:31.936)
Well, they said.

Lori (49:32.249)
They should have done like all blue for all blue for like the Greek trip. Blue and what? Like you could have done something.

Kelli (49:39.392)
Vibrant they said vibrant colors basically that was what they told them which Whitney was in like a cream color

Lori (49:47.307)
Mary wasn't mint, was it? No. No. Like, I was a big disappointment.

Kelli (49:52.171)
I didn't love Mary's, I didn't love Heather's, I thought Angie looked great, I actually did think Meredith looked great, and she's had some bad fucking reunion looks, Yeah.

Lori (50:01.438)
really? No, she looked and she looked beautiful last year, too. She had on that same kind of color, that kind of like burgundy wine color. She wore the same color last year. Angie's looks drop dead.

Kelli (50:04.586)
Yeah, she did, she did.

Kelli (50:10.698)
Yeah.

Kelli (50:14.442)
Yeah. Britney was not in the cast photo.

Wendy (50:16.174)
So.

Lori (50:18.265)
I I noticed that.

Wendy (50:19.608)
But she's on the couch. Well, cause she's a friend of.

Kelli (50:22.422)
She's not in the photo I saw. Yeah.

Wendy (50:27.54)
a friend of. some of the questions that Andy asked besides that one on Watch What Happens Live, Heather there was two questions for Heather. The first two questions, why is there no audio or video from the plan? And Heather said you have to tune into the reunion because we kind of nailed down the answer to those questions. And then she says if you remember the Sprinter van with Brittany recording. So that is something to do with

why there's no recording. And then the other question that Heather got is, why is Meredith calling you a liar such a big deal when you withheld the black eye situation in season three? And Heather said, withholding information is a lie of omission. Okay.

Lori (51:09.389)
Ooh.

Wendy (51:20.75)
I wanted to mention this too, Andy asked Matt Rogers how Frazier was doing, because Matt Rogers is dating Frazier, which I love those two together. I love that. Because Frazier had a heart attack from vaping. Vaping. So.

Kelli (51:29.568)
Me too, me too.

Lori (51:37.335)
They say, they say that definitely it's really bad for you.

Kelli (51:37.504)
Did you see?

Did you see the post by one of the, I don't watch Mary to Medicine, one of the husbands, I guess he's a doctor, and he made a post about Frazier and said normally, something to this effect, something to this effect, I'm not quoting it directly. Basically, like normally when somebody in their early 30s has a heart attack, it's mostly due to cocaine and not vaping.

Wendy (51:41.486)
worse than cigarette smoking.

Wendy (51:51.256)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (52:11.608)
He said that? my gosh, that's a very bold statement.

Kelli (52:12.684)
You did.

Kelli (52:17.164)
Totally agree.

Lori (52:18.615)
Well, it could be like a medical fact that he's stating that the majority of people who have

Wendy (52:27.412)
But to say that about another Bravo Liberty?

Kelli (52:28.476)
I've never, I totally agree with you. For one bravo person to say about another bravo, I'm just, I was floored.

Lori (52:30.699)
I don't know what he was saying. Yeah.

Wendy (52:35.565)
Mm-mm.

Lori (52:35.693)
But was he saying that about him or was he making a general medical statement? he was referring. okay. Okay. Okay.

Kelli (52:39.104)
Well, he was, he was, no, he was referring to Frazier's, you know, condition.

Wendy (52:45.794)
Yeah, no, that's not cool. That's not cool. And then some... Yeah, I don't... I don't want you to either, but that is definitely not cool.

Kelli (52:47.468)
And I don't watch the show so I don't know who it is, whose husbands.

Wendy (52:57.314)
And then some of the poll questions were, who do you believe about the plane now? Meredith and Lisa or everyone else? Everyone else got 91%.

Wendy (53:09.614)
Does Lisa speak for Meredith too often? 86 % said yes. My favorite, are Cartier watches for grandmas? 82 % said no. Who is more competitive, Angie or Lisa? 90 % said Lisa. Whose style would you copy? 37 % said Braunwyn and Angie was the next with 25%.

Lori (53:21.203)
there you go.

Wendy (53:39.182)
Whose Salt Lake City reunion look was your favorite? Angie's was 63 % and Braunwyn's was the next with 14%.

Kelli (53:48.8)
Bromwens was nice. The yellow.

Lori (53:51.012)
was very unexpected for her though. expect her, I mean it's a reunion, you expect her to come in some big lavish over the top. It was very subdued for her. It was beautiful but very subdued for her. Not what you would expect.

Kelli (53:53.535)
It wasn't

Kelli (53:57.781)
Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty understated for her, I agree, but it was nice. It was nice. Mm-hmm. Right.

Wendy (53:58.401)
over the top.

Wendy (54:10.19)
I'm gonna look, think I have them. Do I have it on my phone? The reunion picture.

By the way, Beverly Hills, remember we were talking about the taglines? Like two days later, their taglines came out. I'm like, what is with them? Like, here it is.

Kelli (54:26.251)
saw that.

I know.

And while we're waiting for you, another thing, this is about Potomac, but Giselle and Ashley, I wonder how they feel about this because Stacy Roosh, is that how you pronounce it?

Wendy (54:34.784)
Okay, there it is.

Wendy (54:46.466)
I think it's Rush.

Kelli (54:47.754)
Rush, total article in Vanity Fair Magazine. Talking about what a great housewife she is.

Lori (54:53.438)
Hmm.

Wendy (54:53.57)
Really?

I love that. I love that. So here's the picture of the reunion looks behind me. I agree Angie's is the absolute best.

Kelli (54:57.568)
Me too.

Kelli (55:07.072)
Yeah, for sure.

Lori (55:07.179)
Yeah, it's just a hot mess together. It really is. Like there's no cohesive, there's nothing about it that... I don't know, I'm just confused.

Kelli (55:17.64)
There's no cohesiveness, I agree with that. I like how they put Meredith and Lisa together in the middle because they kind of match. I actually do like Lisa's dress now that I look at it. What they should have done though is put Whitney where Mary was. Mary and Heather on the outside because they have the same kind of hue. Angie should have been in the middle between Meredith and Lisa. And that probably would have made the picture a little bit better.

Lori (55:39.331)
Middle, yeah.

Wendy (55:41.334)
with the red.

Kelli (55:45.288)
I am the least creative artistic person in the world, but to me that would have made it look a little bit better.

Lori (55:46.073)
Still not great.

Wendy (55:50.412)
No, it's not a good.

Lori (55:50.553)
But you did well. Yeah, absolutely. agree. But it was just very disappointing. Yes.

Wendy (55:54.71)
I love Bronwyn's hair. I love the extensions. Yes, I love the extensions.

Kelli (55:57.547)
Long, right? It's long? Yeah. It just makes her look younger. I don't know why. To me, it makes her look younger.

Lori (55:59.258)
Her extension is very pretty.

Lori (56:04.097)
No, does. Yep. It looks very pretty on her.

Wendy (56:06.796)
No, I agree.

And I'll be honest with you, I don't like that color on Heather.

Lori (56:14.113)
No, uh-uh, no, no.

Kelli (56:16.138)
just feel like Heather has such a banging body right now. Like she should have been wearing something like Angie's wearing, yeah.

Wendy (56:21.238)
Yeah, I know.

Lori (56:21.753)
You would wear something a little more form-fitting. Yeah, she could have, yeah. I was just very disappointed in the whole thing. I was like, oh, really? This is what you got going on?

Kelli (56:31.724)
Yeah. What about the set, Laura? I know you always have an opinion about that. I don't think you could really tell in this picture yet, right? okay.

Wendy (56:31.862)
Yeah, I don't love it either. I don't love it either.

Lori (56:36.235)
I didn't look at anything.

Wendy (56:40.544)
It's Greece. It's Greece. It's Santa Torini.

Lori (56:41.751)
See? But that's why I'm saying, why didn't you do like, put everybody in a beautiful blue gown? That would've been great.

Kelli (56:46.996)
Right, right, like any shade of blue, because sometimes they do that. Right.

Lori (56:50.039)
Like any shade of blue. Yeah, like that would have been awesome with that set. But see, in the end, now I can see on the edge there, I can see that it's very Greek-ish. But what a shame. Like, I don't know.

Kelli (57:00.256)
Yeah.

Wendy (57:00.376)
Yeah.

Kelli (57:03.894)
Yeah, like Mary and Heather look fitting.

Lori (57:07.309)
Yeah, I don't get it.

Wendy (57:07.692)
Yeah, yeah, and honestly, if they were all in similar colors, it would have... Heather wouldn't stand out as much because I feel like she stands out and Angie with the red, like nobody has that tone. Like the red doesn't go at all. Although her dress is gorgeous, it doesn't go.

Lori (57:11.417)
Right? They would have been beautiful. I just don't get it.

Kelli (57:13.227)
Yeah.

Lori (57:20.278)
No.

Right, now.

Kelli (57:24.266)
Now they should have put her in the middle.

Lori (57:27.533)
Well, they should have done a theme is what they should have done. So listen, Bravo. We keep telling you, you need to call us. We'll fix it all.

Kelli (57:34.592)
Right. Shoo shoo da.

Lori (57:37.241)
I know what you're waiting for. Keep messing it up.

Wendy (57:37.965)
Yeah.

All right, so do you guys have anything else? We're approaching the one hour mark. All right, thank you for watching. Okay. this whole time? No, they are burnt.

Kelli (57:45.524)
Yeah, we gotta go. I gotta color my roots.

Lori (57:48.441)
I got cookies in the oven.

Kelli (57:51.752)
Jesus, they're burnt by now, girl.

Lori (57:54.745)
No, my husband took them out, but they're waiting. Calling me. They're calling me. Gas. Gas in my milk.

Kelli (57:58.892)
so they're nice and soft and hot and you gotta go. Yes, they are. And your milk.

Wendy (57:59.231)
okay.

Wendy (58:04.214)
Okay. All right. Thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (58:13.014)
Bye.

Lori (58:13.134)
Bye.