RHOSLC-From Court Docs to Chaos

Wendy (00:01.454)
and welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.717)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:05.448)
And I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:07.234)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City season six, episode number three. The new taglines came out.

Lori (00:18.271)
What's the name of the episode?

Kelli (00:20.995)
Dismissed.

Lori (00:22.175)
there you go. Okie dokie.

Wendy (00:25.665)
Yep.

Kelli (00:25.837)
Which if you watch it on Peacock, it was very confusing today because it had this as episode six because they have the watch what happens lives in there. And I was like, there's no way this is episode six. I'm like, maybe three. I actually thought it was two.

Lori (00:35.458)
I didn't even notice that.

Wendy (00:41.238)
Yeah, it's yeah, no, it's three. That is confusing.

Lori (00:44.627)
Right. Yeah. I didn't even notice.

Kelli (00:44.897)
Yeah. Yeah, it was confusing.

Wendy (00:49.164)
Yeah, Heather's tagline is, nest is almost empty and this bird is ready to soar. It's all right. Meredith is, while you drop lies, I'm dropping the beat.

Kelli (00:56.047)
I think that's cute for her.

Lori (00:57.629)
That's cute.

Lori (01:04.241)
No. No. No. And her DJing is no. No. No, that's what I'm saying. It's a big no. N-O. Okay, I'm done now.

Kelli (01:05.556)
god, that's awful.

Wendy (01:08.672)
No.

Kelli (01:10.624)
Because first of all, no, you're not. You are not. Yeah. Horrible.

Wendy (01:17.738)
Okay, Bronwyns, if my closet had skeletons, at least they'd be well dressed. I like that one.

Lori (01:23.143)
I like that.

Kelli (01:25.679)
She's not lying.

Wendy (01:27.422)
Angie's is, I'm Greek and the rest are just tragedy.

Lori (01:32.127)
Bye now.

Kelli (01:33.795)
I don't mind it, but I'm not... Come on with the Greek. We get it, you're Greek. All right.

Lori (01:36.733)
Listen, we'll talk about this later, but that's how the Greek people are.

Wendy (01:37.102)
That was...

Kelli (01:43.747)
I know, ain't listen, God bless her for being proud of her heritage.

Lori (01:46.825)
They're very into being Greek. They're into it, like uber into it.

Kelli (01:49.303)
Yeah, and that's nice, that's nice. Yeah.

Wendy (01:53.984)
Whitney's roses are redheads, violets are blue, don't come for me or I'll come for you. No.

Mary's is I'm just here to eat, drink and be merry. I like hers. like hers.

Lori (02:07.112)
Love it.

Kelli (02:07.907)
I like it.

Lori (02:09.961)
Did you see on, sorry, did you see on Watch What Happens Live that that's actually left over from last year? Yeah, Andy said put it back. Yeah, I love it.

Wendy (02:16.383)
Yes, I did see that.

Kelli (02:18.295)
and Andy wanted to bring it back, right?

Wendy (02:19.948)
Yeah, Lisa's is, I don't go low, I go the distance.

Lori (02:26.045)
Nope, you go low, girl. You go.

Kelli (02:29.069)
You know what though, it's actually a good tagline for her. It's very catchy because of that scene where she's like, I want you to go the distance with her security. I mean, I think it's catchy for her, but I agree, she does go low.

Wendy (02:29.282)
She just.

Lori (02:39.9)
Ugh.

Lori (02:45.981)
It's cringy just like her.

Wendy (02:46.338)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (02:47.937)
Yeah, especially this episode.

Lori (02:49.776)
please.

Wendy (02:50.666)
Yes. So we start out with Lisa getting ready for an event that she's having. And she's going over the list of the talent that are going to be there. And this evening it's going to be Steve Carroll, Jason Swartzman, and Corey Smith and Ramsey Youssef. Me too. Me too. I didn't know the other ones.

Kelli (03:08.483)
The only one I know is Steve Carell.

Lori (03:13.117)
And can I tell you that first segment of her, she said like 15 times, 15 times, I counted them because all of a she starts saying it. And then I don't even pay any attention to whatever else she's saying. Cause now I'm counting the likes. So anything that you said in between that was like just la la la la la like, la la la la la like, la la la la la like. So I don't know what Lisa talked about in that first segment, but I will tell you.

Wendy (03:17.496)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (03:20.505)
She says like a lot.

Lori (03:42.815)
That there were 15 likes. 15.

Wendy (03:44.886)
likes. to know.

Kelli (03:45.593)
That's interesting. And people keep saying she's blinking more. She blinks a lot. I don't know.

Wendy (03:50.318)
She definitely is, she definitely blinks a lot. She does. I've noticed that as well. Because I...

Lori (03:50.547)
Yes, she does.

Kelli (03:57.539)
I told you before, I can't stand wearing false eyelashes and she always has them on and that could be why she blinks so much.

Lori (04:03.878)
Maybe, maybe, maybe.

Wendy (04:06.048)
It could be, it could be. Lisa says, I don't think the other girls in this group understand who I work with and what I do. They always.

Lori (04:14.71)
please. Well, listen.

Kelli (04:16.505)
She said, no one understands when you run big businesses. I mean, Heather has beauty lab.

Lori (04:20.351)
And listen, she is doing really big things. She's doing really big things. She told you that. You need to listen, Kelly.

Wendy (04:20.429)
Yeah.

Kelli (04:27.417)
Yeah, mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, Heather's got Beauty Lab and she's opened up like multiple, right? That's a pretty big business.

Wendy (04:36.237)
Yes.

Lori (04:36.351)
Not only that, Heather has done that after being divorced, excommunicated, raising children on her own, being depressed in her bed and writing books. Not that I'm some big Heather fan, but I'm just saying, girl, Heather, don't let Lisa push you down because you're doing really big things yourself.

Kelli (04:46.113)
Yeah.

Wendy (04:51.406)
Two books. Two... Yeah.

Kelli (04:52.717)
Yeah!

Kelli (05:02.189)
No, and they flashed back to that lunch and Heather did say, you are not, your life is not that different. So she did stick up to her. I was happy to see that. I'm liking Heather this season more than I have other seasons.

Lori (05:05.896)
yeah,

Wendy (05:08.909)
Yeah.

Wendy (05:18.038)
Yeah, she also let us know that she has six lawyers.

Kelli (05:23.171)
which I'm pretty sure we knew on the bus when Jen Shah got. You know, I was thinking about that today. didn't actually, Jen Shah left before the SWAT team got there, right? They didn't arrest her right there. Okay.

Wendy (05:26.551)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (05:33.934)
Correct, because she got the phone call. No, no, no, because she got the phone call.

Kelli (05:40.963)
Yeah. I wonder who called her. You think Coach Shaw called her? The assistant?

Wendy (05:42.616)
So then we.

No, think, I think, I think the assistant.

So two days earlier, we see Lisa talking to Amy, Amy the socialite.

Lori (05:58.727)
Amy, the socialite. It's so funny. I believe so. Yeah.

Kelli (06:01.987)
who now I believe does want to be on the show, by the way. I believe she wants to be on the show now.

Wendy (06:05.63)
Yes. Yeah, I think so. Yes, because we have another appearance with Amy. So she's telling her about what she has planned for the Blue Sky Lodge. She's going to invite some of the ladies there to go skeet shooting. And then after skeet shooting, she's going to invite the other ladies to join them for her lunch.

Lori (06:27.187)
The B team. D team. thought it was a B team. I thought she was the B team.

Wendy (06:28.876)
D, the D-Team.

Kelli (06:31.247)
Oh, I thought she said B2. I thought she called them the A team and they were the B team. Wow.

Wendy (06:32.769)
No D.

No, they were the D. Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (06:36.675)
the D-Team.

Maybe there's a dick suckers team. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (06:42.415)
Then they'd be the GD team, the gout dick suckers.

Wendy (06:43.816)
Maybe, maybe that's what it.

Hahaha!

Then we see Brahman and Todd are out to eat and they're talking about their day. We find out that Brahman went to visit her dad. So she shares a lot in her confessional. I had no idea that her father's had Alzheimer's for 10 years and it was a long time. And then her mom and dad had to move in with her recently because her mother had brain surgery, emergency surgery, and they had lived in California.

prior to all this going on. So her mom is gonna be fine. She had the surgery and she's gonna make a full recovery, but they had to put her father in a memory care unit because he just needs 24 hour care and it was just too much for them. But her mom is gonna be staying with her now full time, which is a huge, huge thing. I mean, especially considering.

Kelli (07:41.84)
Well, especially on top of having your daughter and her boyfriend there at the same time. Like you just went from two, well maybe I guess three people to five people. And not, not, the two extra people are, I mean obviously they're part of your family, but it's not your immediate circle. It's not easy.

Wendy (07:46.443)
Yes.

Wendy (07:50.529)
Right. Right.

Wendy (08:00.47)
Right, exactly.

Lori (08:02.513)
No, and not only that, I mean, let's think about it. It's not like she's had some great relationship with her parents. It's not like her moms are bestie and moving in. I don't think her parents were very nice to her.

Wendy (08:13.197)
No.

Kelli (08:13.379)
Well, we, I mean, we clearly find out in this conversation that she's striving for her mother's approval and she wants her mother's approval on her own, not this conversation, but later in the episode. Yeah, so you're right. It's not like, yeah.

Lori (08:24.777)
Good to come, yeah.

I'm just saying in general, it's not like some great situation right from the bat because her mother's obviously has not been supportive of her our whole life. And now Bronwyn's in the position where she's has to take care of her. So it's just, I'm sure it's just a very weird dynamic.

Kelli (08:44.387)
Yeah, for sure.

Wendy (08:45.346)
Yeah, but she does take the opportunity to really thank Todd for his support financially and being there and changing his work schedule to accommodate her parents, because that's a big thing to take on. Then Todd asks how the conversation went with Meredith. And she said she feels like Meredith can relate to her, because I remember.

Kelli (08:56.74)
Yeah.

Wendy (09:11.266)
I think it was two seasons ago or was it three seasons ago where Meredith's father had passed away? Maybe it was three seasons ago.

Kelli (09:17.386)
god, I forgot about that.

Wendy (09:18.998)
Yeah, so Meredith had a situation where her father was ill and he had had passed away. So yeah, so she feels like, Meredith and her kind of bonded a little bit on that. But, you know, she does bring up about Lisa because she wanted to get Heather's take on, you know, Lisa, because obviously Meredith and Lisa are very close. And Todd tells Bronwyn like, you don't need to be bothered with them. Like you don't need to waste your time. And Bronwyn

Kelli (09:24.464)
I totally forgot about that.

Kelli (09:48.185)
Yeah, like he doesn't understand why she cares so much by the way Lisa feels about her, but...

Wendy (09:53.216)
Right. He doesn't get it.

Kelli (09:54.992)
And what Lisa has said about her is unforgivable, Todd says.

Lori (09:59.089)
I like Todd father for that. liked that he's like, you know what? No, fuck her. No, like cut off at the knees. No, she's out. I'm done. Like he's like, you know, washing his hands. I like him.

Kelli (10:12.483)
Yeah, I like that too because he's not the type, he's not gonna go somewhere where Lisa is and make a scene or make her feel uncomfortable, make anybody feel uncomfortable, but in this scene we clearly see he's got his wife's back and that's the best thing you could say to her, like who the fuck cares if she likes you or not, but Bronwyn obviously does. I wonder how old Bronwyn is because I feel like it comes with age.

Wendy (10:22.269)
no.

Lori (10:31.967)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Right.

Wendy (10:35.436)
Yeah, well, Bronwyn-

Kelli (10:39.843)
The older you get, the less you care of people like you. I wonder how old she is.

Lori (10:42.078)
most definitely. most definitely.

Wendy (10:45.678)
think she's 40. I want to say she's about 40 because I think Wen is like what 20 or no. Yeah, I mean she does seek approval from Lisa. She doesn't like to not be liked and Todd says, well, there's plenty of people that don't like you. And she's like, what do you mean? He's like, well, you know on Facebook and she's like, oh no, you mean Instagram. Yeah, I do get a lot of nasty comments.

Lori (10:46.291)
Remember, think it's the 40s, right?

Kelli (10:48.974)
Okay.

Lori (10:52.319)
Yeah, I think so. No, don't give a shit.

Kelli (10:52.769)
Yeah, we'll give her ten years and she won't care if Lisa likes her or not.

Kelli (11:12.271)
So do we.

Lori (11:13.535)
So do we. And we don't really care either. We really don't care. We care. We don't care. We don't care.

Wendy (11:14.059)
Yeah, that's all right. You know what?

Kelli (11:17.903)
Exactly. That's right. That's right.

Wendy (11:19.596)
No, no, because we're old, we're past it. Some call us old hags at that. Yep. Then we see Angie goes over to her dad's house and she brings him fruit and an orchid. We've seen her dad a lot on the show. This is the first time we've seen him in his house.

Lori (11:27.261)
Yeah. there you go. Mm-hmm. Whatevs.

Kelli (11:27.503)
as much as they possibly can.

Wendy (11:45.614)
I mean, he's 89 years old and it appears that he lives alone in that house, which that's impressive. That's impressive.

Kelli (11:50.105)
Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Lori (11:50.394)
God bless him. That's something else. I thought my dad was a lot at 82 or 84, or however old he is, living on a boat by himself. I thought that was a lot.

Kelli (11:59.962)
Yeah.

Wendy (12:00.504)
Yeah.

Kelli (12:02.861)
Not only living on a boat, but driving it from Florida up to Jersey, back down to the Carolinas by himself. Like, God bless him. He is badass. He is.

Lori (12:06.357)
yeah, all over the place. By himself. Yeah. Yeah, I'm telling you. He's badass. But listen, Angie's father's pretty badass too. I mean, he lived through some serious shit.

Wendy (12:09.75)
Yeah. He's badass, your dad.

Wendy (12:22.231)
He did.

Kelli (12:22.451)
He, we didn't know what he talked about here, but we already knew that Angie's mom was an alcoholic and she's one of seven. So her father, as a married man, had to care for his seven children because of his wife's illness. So that alone is something to be acknowledged about. But this is crazy with them, what he says when he was a little boy. But listen, that's probably where he got his perseverance from and his strength.

Lori (12:31.465)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (12:50.387)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

Wendy (12:52.204)
Yeah, because he brings out some old photos and he starts telling Angie when he was seven, the Germans came into the village and they burned everything down. And they wound up moving to the US with the clothes on their back. So that just tells you what this man is made of, right? Angie tells him that she really feels like a calling for Greece. She really feels like that's her homeland, even though obviously she wasn't born there, but she did go there with her.

Kelli (13:09.017)
Yeah.

Wendy (13:21.08)
you know, her father and she saw how he reacted to it. And she really wants to pass this on to Electra. And, you know, we see later Electra really has no desire to go to Greece.

Lori (13:32.457)
She's, you know what? She's too young. Give her a little time and give her a little time and she'll, she'll be into it. She'll be in.

Kelli (13:34.809)
She's a 13 year old girl.

Wendy (13:36.835)
Yep.

Kelli (13:39.535)
For sure, for sure. This was such a nice scene though with Angie and her dad, I loved it. I loved it.

Wendy (13:39.584)
I agree. I agree.

It was a nice scene. I was surprised though that she didn't tell him that she was going to go for her citizenship. Like I was surprised when she had this conversation with him, like she waits and tells Heather that later.

Lori (13:58.835)
Maybe he knew already. Maybe she probably talked to him about it already. Yeah.

Kelli (14:01.095)
That's what I was thinking.

Wendy (14:03.158)
Yeah, that's possible. That's possible.

Kelli (14:04.665)
Yeah.

Lori (14:05.715)
So when Angie says, every year when the roses come up reminds her that she has had another year with her dad, I'm gonna cry now. my God. That's the thing that I, if I'm gonna watch Housewives, that's what I wanna, that's what I like to see.

Kelli (14:18.019)
Ha ha ha. Yeah.

Kelli (14:27.481)
Yeah, exactly.

Wendy (14:29.088)
Yeah. Because it brings you back to a place that you can relate to. Right.

Lori (14:32.817)
please, because my dad's leaving tomorrow and he's 82. And every time he leaves, is that going to be the last time I see him? It's, you know, so I get it.

Wendy (14:43.948)
Right. Exactly.

Kelli (14:44.217)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (14:48.14)
Yeah, exactly.

Then we see Bronwyn's mom, Muzzy. I don't know, how do you get that nickname? Muzzy?

Kelli (14:59.767)
It's cute. I don't know. I don't know what her name is like

Lori (15:02.207)
She's not cute.

Wendy (15:03.726)
Marge, name is Marge.

Kelli (15:05.693)
okay. I mean, we have two neighbors. I don't wanna say they're lit. Well, you guys don't know who I'm talking about, obviously. But they're older, they raised their kids here, and her nickname's Shotzi.

Lori (15:20.915)
But Schatzi is, I've heard that name so many times. believe, yes, I believe it's an Italian thing. I have heard that several times. Yes. So it's not.

Kelli (15:26.061)
You have. Okay. Okay.

Kelli (15:33.303)
Okay, because I never, because I know her name. I know her maiden name and I'm like, hmm, like where, you know, I know where her husband got his name from. It's very self explanatory, but they both go by nicknames in the neighborhood.

Lori (15:39.12)
No, I think it's

Lori (15:45.471)
I think it's a very Italian like nickname.

Kelli (15:50.231)
Okay. But so that's my point was like, it could be from anything, Muzzy, you know.

Wendy (15:54.08)
Yeah, so Muzzy, yeah. Okay. So Muzzy's sitting there doing her search award and...

Lori (15:56.127)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (16:01.223)
And she looked pretty good after brain surgery, I gotta tell you.

Wendy (16:04.05)
Yes, yes she did. And I thought that that was good that she was doing that because that's what you need to do is you need to work your brain. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And that's when we find out that, you know, her house is still in Northern California and she's trying to go through all the stuff and sort out what she's selling and what she's, you know, getting rid of. And I can't imagine what that task is like, to be quite honest with you.

Kelli (16:09.721)
Well, they probably told her to do that. Yeah, that's probably part of her therapy. Yeah.

Lori (16:10.313)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Kelli (16:34.285)
Yeah.

Wendy (16:34.978)
especially considering a Bronwyn said it was her childhood home and there's boxes there that she has not opened in 25 years. And initially when she said that, I'm like, well, if you haven't opened it in 25 years, you don't need it is what I'm thinking, right? But then when Bronwyn asked her, she's like, well, you know, this was from your dad's office and he's not here. And I was like, okay.

Kelli (16:48.42)
Yeah.

Lori (16:49.478)
huh.

Kelli (16:56.643)
Yeah, like she's got to decide if she could throw away her husband's things because he, mean, listen, he's never going to know what it is. He's never going to even know she did it, but that's such a final move. That's hard.

Wendy (17:07.63)
horrible. Yes. Um, Bronwyn.

Lori (17:09.277)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (17:15.223)
It's interesting that they were talking about how he's, where he's at in his brain that Bronwyn's still in college, but then also that Gwen is a little girl. I guess he goes back and forth, right?

Lori (17:30.141)
Yeah, you go back on when that deceives you go back and forth. And I feel bad for Brahman because that's got to be just dredging everything up, especially that our fathers stuck in that timeframe, like she said, when, you know, it wasn't, it was this one.

Kelli (17:34.158)
Yeah.

Wendy (17:47.234)
He was disappointed in her. Right, and he was disappointed in her. And I agree with you, that's totally a horrible place to be stuck. It's a horrible place. You know, and her mom says, well, he just wants what's best for you. Well, obviously that's what he wants, but it still doesn't make her feel any better.

Kelli (17:47.939)
she wasn't the most proud of herself.

Right. Right.

Kelli (17:58.138)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (18:09.947)
No. And how about what's, how about what was best for Brahman's, you know, mental health all these years that, that you as her parents treated her that way? To me, no.

Wendy (18:21.806)
Yeah.

Yeah. And then Bronwyn says, well, I just took a longer route to get to where I was going. Her mom says, well, you couldn't have got there without Todd.

Lori (18:33.189)
Shut up, I wanted to see how on the TV, shut up.

Wendy (18:35.273)
I

Kelli (18:36.079)
Here's the thing, don't we remember, didn't Bronwyn have her own career prior to meeting Todd? So that's a really shitty thing to say.

Lori (18:42.329)
Yes! Yes she did. Yes she did.

Wendy (18:43.906)
Yes, yes.

Lori (18:48.839)
I think her mom's a shitbag. That's what I think. I'm not, I'm not, I am not a fan at all. Not a fan at all. No, listen, if you, if you treat your daughter like that, when she's in such a young age and such a predicament and you have the money and everything else to take care of her and your grandchild and, and you treated her that way and now she's living in

Wendy (18:51.758)
Mmm.

No, I can see that.

Kelli (18:55.247)
She is not a fan.

Lori (19:16.191)
You're living in her house and her husband's on his dime paying for your shit? No, uh-uh.

Kelli (19:24.963)
Well, it's just a very misogynistic thing to say to a woman that she wouldn't be where she is without her husband.

Lori (19:31.327)
I'm sorry.

Wendy (19:35.276)
Absolutely, absolutely.

Kelli (19:37.515)
No, quite honestly, no matter what the situation is, you know what I mean? Like I don't care what she was doing.

Lori (19:41.791)
But the situation itself makes it all the worse.

Kelli (19:49.775)
Yeah, I mean, it's really, that was hard to hear.

Lori (19:54.239)
And wouldn't her mother, wouldn't she be mortified to be on that show? She's sitting there like, you know.

She did everything right, like she was sitting there like she was the mother of the year. She should be mortified.

Kelli (20:07.535)
I wonder if she even wanted to film. I bet you Brahman asked her to film. I wonder if she even wanted to film.

Lori (20:15.007)
She should be embarrassed.

Kelli (20:17.507)
Maybe she is. it didn't seem it. You're right, it didn't seem it.

Lori (20:18.879)
I don't think so at all.

Wendy (20:21.804)
You know what though? I think a lot of times on these shows, people don't realize how they come off until they watch it back. So maybe after this season, she'll have a little bit of reflection and she'll see herself back and see the audience's reaction to the words that she said. mean, because Bronwyn in her confessional says, she's made these snide remarks before, but unfortunately Bronwyn still seeks her approval. I mean, it's her mother. It's her mother.

Kelli (20:28.281)
for sure.

Lori (20:39.455)
Hopefully.

Kelli (20:50.925)
Yeah, so like Wendy said, hopefully, if anything else, seeing Bronwyn's confessional, if that alone gets her to stop making those snide remarks, it's a win.

Wendy (20:58.178)
Yeah.

Wendy (21:04.416)
I agree. I agree. But I, yeah, those were harsh words to hear. Then we see Angie goes over to Heather's house and Heather's turning what she's calling her old storage room, which looks to me like a beautiful sunroom.

Lori (21:20.19)
Yes.

Kelli (21:21.069)
All those windows, how gorgeous was that room? I'd have my dining room table in that room. You know what I mean? Like don't know where it is in the house, but, or, you know, I would have had that set up like she said, like to read in, to be creative. Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (21:23.263)
Yes, yes. Yeah.

Lori (21:25.065)
Very pretty.

Very pretty.

Wendy (21:37.058)
Well, that's what she's going to do now. Yeah. mean, that's gorgeous room. When I saw that room, the view and those windows and the light. Yeah. So she's going to be creating her creative office because for the past eight years, she's, you know, in her confessional, she spent it in bed basically, like, you know, running her businesses from her bed, writing her two books from her bed because she's been carrying this load

Kelli (21:45.977)
Gorgeous.

Kelli (22:02.468)
Yeah.

Wendy (22:06.22)
by herself all this time, that it'll be good that that can now be her bedroom, can actually be her love den, and this can be her office slash creative space. And we also find out that she's got a third book deal, which is good. I'm glad, I'm happy for her. I'm happy for Heather.

Lori (22:07.817)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (22:08.367)
Yeah.

Kelli (22:23.129)
Yeah. I haven't read any of her books.

Wendy (22:26.788)
Well, me neither.

Lori (22:27.035)
I haven't read anything either.

Kelli (22:29.295)
I'm gonna go online and see if they're at the library and then ask my little friend.

Lori (22:32.755)
I'm sure the little librarian assistant will get it for you.

Wendy (22:32.888)
That's a good idea.

Kelli (22:36.515)
Yes.

Wendy (22:37.038)
And then Angie tells Heather about how she wants to become a Greek citizen. And she tells her about Electra too. And Heather kind of has the perspective because she's got, she's raised three daughters and she's obviously still raising them. She explains it to her, like this is the age, you're gonna get past this, it's gonna be fine.

Kelli (22:58.799)
Yeah. Yeah. She's not at 13. She's thinking about boys and her friends and, you know, nonsense at school. She's not thinking about becoming a Greek citizen or going to be impressed about somebody else doing it.

Lori (23:05.427)
her friends and yeah. No, no, no, no.

Wendy (23:06.56)
Yes.

Wendy (23:14.048)
Right. Then Heather tells Angie, they're talking about Amy's party, that Lisa thinks that she lives a different life than we do. And Angie's like, yeah, no, I don't think so.

blue sky large.

Kelli (23:32.505)
Well, how about when she said she was going to Ben Affleck's premiere party, but then she was posting AI pics from a hotel room? I mean, we...

Lori (23:42.857)
They looked like they looked AI-ish. That's I think that's what she was saying.

Wendy (23:42.99)
don't know if they were AI.

Kelli (23:45.754)
They, yeah, so, I mean, so we do find out, I guess on Watch What Happens Live, that she went to a movie premiere, but she didn't meet them. Like, so big deal, you got invited to a movie premiere. Don't you run some parties at Sundance Festival? Why wouldn't we think you got invited to a premiere? You along with 100 other people who were just invited to go sit in a folding chair and watch a movie.

Lori (23:54.249)
Now, please.

Lori (24:10.067)
and watch a movie. Well, this is the thing with Lisa and I felt like this kind of just totally summed it up on watch what happens live. They had a guest on, so it was Lisa and then this, he's an ex, yeah, NHL player. Okay, so the, he wrote a book. So there was like a little interactive thing with him and he had to guess if Lisa met these different famous people.

Kelli (24:24.591)
I didn't even know who he was. Ex-uh, hockey player?

Wendy (24:28.91)
Who wrote a book?

Kelli (24:30.915)
Alright.

Kelli (24:38.083)
Yes. Yes. Yes.

Lori (24:39.995)
And so the question was, did she meet a boy band? And she said, yes. And Andy was like, so like you, you like where'd you meet? And she goes like, well, I was at the concert in the front row and I was singing and they looked at me and they were singing with me. And Andy's like, that doesn't mean you met them. But in her mind, she's so extra.

Kelli (24:45.326)
yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (25:02.722)
No!

Right, they're besties. Yeah.

Lori (25:09.535)
That of course she met them. That's why it's like, it's like, it explains her in a nutshell.

Kelli (25:14.383)
That was just a great thing to come out during Watch What Happens Live because it came out so organically and just proves like you're not friends with them. You don't know them. Listen, I have a friend whose daughter grew up with Tess. She's a huge New Kids on the Block fan and she goes to all of their concerts and she does go backstage and she has become friends with them. Like she's actually like,

Lori (25:24.063)
But it's perfect, it's Lisa.

Kelli (25:43.3)
She's in videos with Donnie Wahlberg and who's he married to? Jenny McCarthy, thank you. She put a tattoo on her. He said something about a tattoo. She got the tattoo. Like she puts videos up of her with them. She knows them. Lisa Barlow does not.

Wendy (25:48.44)
Jenny McCarthy.

Lori (25:49.405)
Yeah, McCarthy.

Lori (26:00.414)
Yeah, that's not.

Wendy (26:04.158)
No. No.

Lori (26:04.703)
Stop it. That's all I have to say. Stop it.

Wendy (26:08.974)
So then we see them at the Blue Sky Lodge doing the skeet shooting and Lisa invited Meredith, Heather, Mary and Amy to go skeet shooting.

Lori (26:19.871)
Did you see how when they were doing like the little setup of when Lisa was getting ready to shoot and it was kind of like a little grainy and a little black and white. It was like very Allah hunting wives.

Kelli (26:30.832)
I have the exact same thing written down, very reminiscent of Hunting Wives.

Lori (26:33.087)
Very a humble us. I thought that was like a little...

Wendy (26:38.424)
Yes.

Kelli (26:38.991)
I'm gonna say this though, I appreciate the production of Salt Lake City because what we do not have, and Wendy and I have discussed this about OC, is where so and so and so and so are having a conversation and then they flash to so and so and so and so having a conversation and then they flash back to the first one and then to the second one. We do not have that on Salt Lake City and I appreciate it because I am too old to follow along. The bouncing ball.

Lori (27:02.547)
The bouncing ball. Yes.

Wendy (27:04.13)
Yes. Yes.

So then after they do their little skeet shooting, they go to meet the ladies that are there for lunch. And the lunch group, which is group D, is Angie, Whitney, Brittany, and Bronwyn.

Kelli (27:20.695)
Now, were you all surprised that Brittany wasn't part of the A-Team since she and Lisa are supposedly besties?

Lori (27:25.521)
Yeah, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.

Wendy (27:27.414)
I was a little surprised, but she's an interrupter. So, you know, I don't know that I would have brought her there either. Right? Yeah.

Lori (27:34.791)
And I'm usually, yeah, no, no. Yeah. And I usually am not a big fan of, I'm a Brahmin fan, but I'm usually not a big fan of her wardrobe, but I loved her ensemble that she wore to that lunch. I thought it was absolutely beautiful.

Kelli (27:35.415)
I wouldn't bring her anywhere. I just think it's interesting because she's like supposed to be Lisa's bestie.

Wendy (27:39.981)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (27:52.814)
I don't even remember what to get on.

Kelli (27:53.379)
don't remember what she's wearing.

Lori (27:54.374)
It was, see, there you go. That means it was good. It was just this beautiful pink outfit, light pink outfit with a matching, it was just very understated and elegant and beautiful. I loved it. You can look it up. It's very pretty, very pretty.

Kelli (28:06.479)
I gotta look it up.

Wendy (28:07.778)
I do too. I do too.

Wendy (28:12.622)
So they get into the lunchroom and Lisa has all the poster boards set up on easels and the ladies walk in. Yeah.

Lori (28:18.513)
She got a discount at Staples.

Kelli (28:22.703)
She sure did.

Lori (28:22.719)
Stop it.

Wendy (28:24.972)
The ladies walk in and they're all just like, what is going on? Yeah, I mean, Mary and her confessional said, well, I'm confused. I'm going to stay confused and I will leave confused. I was like, you're not the only one, Mary. You are not the only one.

Lori (28:28.55)
is this.

Kelli (28:29.837)
What in the actual F?

Lori (28:35.443)
Confused? And I'll leave you confused.

Yeah.

Kelli (28:42.275)
How about that picture of Lisa and John on the yacht? Like how far away was that picture? And why do you have a picture of you on a yacht? Like who gives a...

Wendy (28:45.686)
my god.

Lori (28:45.756)
Well...

Lori (28:50.259)
Well, on Watch What Happens Live, on Watch What Happens Live, Lisa said that the poster boards were, photos on the poster boards in the lunch was to remind them that she does big things.

Kelli (29:08.597)
my God. As if none of the other ones have been on yachts though. I mean, I have not been on a yacht, but I would imagine that Mary Cosby has been on a yacht. Or if Mary Cosby wanted to be on a yacht, she could. Mary and her husband ran a huge church. you know, I mean, there's been allegations, but they are just that, allegations. But I mean, when we came into this show, season one,

Lori (29:10.335)
I'm dying laughing.

Lori (29:14.845)
Yeah, no, no, no, no.

Lori (29:23.731)
you a being.

Kelli (29:38.293)
I honestly thought Mary was the most wealthy out of all of

Wendy (29:42.764)
You didn't think Jen. I thought Jen Shaw was the way she was living. It was, it was all smoke and mirrors.

Kelli (29:45.336)
No, because no because you could see she was she you could yes exactly You could tell that it was all smoke and mirrors But I thought Mary was the most wealthy. I still do I still do because wealth whispers and Mary whispers Lisa's screaming it from the mountaintops. So I still think Mary's the most wealthy Exactly, exactly

Wendy (29:54.37)
Yeah.

Lori (29:58.782)
It could be. could be.

Wendy (30:04.824)
That is true.

Lori (30:07.879)
Yes, with a bullhorn, with a bullhorn.

Wendy (30:11.798)
Yeah. I mean, I loved it when Lisa announced it was a picture of her and John courtside at the jazz game. And Bronwyn looks over at the picture. She's like, those are not courtside seats. Those are not folding chairs on the floor. And she was absolutely right. I was like, yep.

Lori (30:26.479)
Hahaha!

Kelli (30:27.279)
100 % right, which Eric and I always talk about that. We're like, how do these people spend that much money? I understand courtside must be extremely exciting, but he would never sit for three hours in a folding chair. He doesn't care whose sweat is landing on him when they come off the court. Like it's crazy, but Bronwyn was 100 % right.

Lori (30:43.352)
no. No no no no, nerd.

Wendy (30:44.364)
Right. Right. Right. Right.

Lori (30:47.816)
Right, now.

Wendy (30:55.95)
Lisa looks over at Meredith and she's like, I thought you would appreciate this. Meredith?

Lori (31:01.284)
Did you see how Meredith was like, okay.

Wendy (31:04.704)
Yeah, I did. Yeah.

Kelli (31:06.361)
Yeah, because what she said is 100 % true. Those exhibits would not be used in a courtroom. With dismissed across the, there's one dismissed stamp and it's normally up in a corner on a pleading.

Lori (31:11.123)
Now.

Wendy (31:11.188)
Right. Right. Right.

Wendy (31:21.166)
So Lisa said, today's all about me. Imagine that.

Lori (31:25.747)
Shock! Shocker! Shocker!

Kelli (31:26.379)
Again. Another meal sponsored by Lisa and the theme is Lisa.

Lori (31:31.827)
Eilisa. And the names, yeah.

Wendy (31:35.202)
Right. So then Angie said as like, what is this supposed to prove? Like you invited us here to read this and Lisa said, yes, I did. And Whitney's like, well, we already read it. That's how we know about it. Like, what are you talking about? I love that she said that.

Kelli (31:50.544)
And she says something about them spending an extra $25 to find out that the lawsuits were dismissed. That's, I mean, listen, you look up a lawsuit, you look up a lawsuit.

Wendy (31:52.91)
$25, yeah.

Lori (31:56.348)
my god.

Lori (32:01.267)
I love, I love, I love how in Heather's confessional, she says, it's like a science fair, but no one did their work. It's good, so good.

Wendy (32:09.43)
Exactly. So then Bronwyn says, well, they're dismissed because you paid them back or because they were fake. And Lisa said, dismissed because none of your effing business.

Kelli (32:11.715)
Yep. Yep.

Lori (32:13.343)
too funny

Kelli (32:25.069)
Right, so she couldn't answer the question.

Lori (32:25.351)
Yeah, but... how could it be none of her business when you invited her here with all the shit on the boards?

Wendy (32:27.096)
So the-

Wendy (32:31.224)
Great, this was the clarity lunch. This is where you were supposed to provide clarity. Like, what? No. Angie said, I'm gonna ask some questions that will help you shut it down about some of the things that look strange. And she starts firing off questions. People read that you have another man's credit card in your wallet. The man paid your car off. The man paid for your remodel in your home. You owe him $118,000.

Kelli (32:31.331)
Great point.

Kelli (32:36.761)
Exactly.

Kelli (32:59.961)
Can you give this man my phone number?

Wendy (33:02.357)
I know, right?

Lori (33:02.687)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:04.666)
Eric won't even mind!

Lori (33:06.525)
No, not at all.

Kelli (33:08.003)
Give him a new driveway and he's on board.

Lori (33:10.363)
He's good, he's good.

Wendy (33:11.97)
Mary said, none of this is true. And Lisa said, Angie said, you don't have a credit card that's got your name on it? And then Amy jumps in and said, well, in fairness, they were in business together. So it would have been a business card. Now we did not need to hear that from Amy. Like, is this the time for her to jump in? Because by the way, you who didn't jump in is Meredith. Meredith did not jump in. Her good friends.

Lori (33:35.187)
is Meredith.

Kelli (33:40.206)
Yeah.

Wendy (33:41.878)
And then she says, well, no, they've not been dismissed yet, but they're denied. And Bronwyn's like, you're denying the claim. That doesn't mean it's dismissed. Like those words, dismissal and denied, they're not interchangeable.

But Lisa just like, she doesn't get it. She thinks if she gets louder and more obnoxious that what she's saying will be true. Like it's just.

Lori (34:00.668)
No.

Kelli (34:07.619)
I have in my notes, this is very Tamra behavior. Very much Tamra behavior. If I get loud and I start acting, swinging my arms around and erratic, yeah, I win. It's very Tamra-like behavior.

Wendy (34:12.066)
Yes.

Wendy (34:18.71)
Erratic, yes.

Lori (34:20.243)
Right. Right.

Wendy (34:23.298)
Yes.

Lori (34:25.599)
She was acting very unhinged. Like unhinged. I was like, girl, you need to just back it up.

Kelli (34:29.923)
Very much so.

Wendy (34:33.123)
Yeah.

Kelli (34:38.797)
And then of course she does what every housewife does. Bronwyn is obsessed with talking about me. No, Lisa, you sought out that jeweler. You exposed Bronwyn on the reunion for not actually buying that piece of jewelry she said she did. So you dug up something on Bronwyn. So now...

Bronwyn is going to retaliate by digging something up on you and bringing it up on camera. This is Housewives. This is it.

Lori (35:11.207)
Right, but this is it. Did Bronwyn actually dig it up or did she open the newspaper and say, that's interesting. Read it, read it and then look it up online. It wasn't like she went out of her way to find some shit about Lisa. Girl, open the paper.

Wendy (35:18.498)
The Treboom.

Kelli (35:19.663)
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it didn't take much.

Kelli (35:29.761)
And maybe, maybe Lisa, if you weren't an asshole to Bronwyn.

she wouldn't have done this. But you made the choice to be an asshole and humiliate her on the reunion. This is Housewives.

Wendy (35:46.062)
Actually, Lisa was supposed to be Bronwyn's friend. That's the reason Bronwyn was even there. Because they were friends.

Kelli (35:48.89)
That's right. Yeah, but we said it last week. I think that it came down to Lisa making a choice, staying in good graces with the rich family of the guy who Brahman had, you know, got pregnant.

Wendy (36:01.026)
Yes.

Lori (36:04.743)
Yeah, once that connection was made for Lisa about that's who's kid it was, she bailed there. She bailed there, yeah.

Wendy (36:05.058)
So I...

Kelli (36:05.645)
Obviously.

Wendy (36:13.614)
She had to cut ties. She had to cut ties. I tried to do some digging to try and find out who that family is because someone in one of our comments said that they heard the rumor was that the family was related to Mitt Romney. I could not find anything that said that. That's just something put in our comments because I did try and do some digging after I saw that comment. was like, I wonder if that's anything, but I seriously could not find anything.

Kelli (36:32.28)
Interesting.

Kelli (36:37.54)
Yeah.

Kelli (36:42.105)
That's interesting.

Wendy (36:43.03)
Yeah, but it is definitely somebody powerful. mean, we, know, it's definitely someone, yeah.

Lori (36:47.283)
That one was definitely, yes.

Wendy (36:55.724)
So Bronwyn then says that I had to apologize to Amy at her house because you came in calling me a whore. Lisa's like, I didn't call you a whore. Bronwyn's like, you said I suck dick for money and you called me a pig.

Lori (37:09.213)
Basically the same thing. well, some antics.

Kelli (37:09.611)
Okay, but she didn't call you a whore.

Wendy (37:12.898)
But that is actually, But then she said, this is what, Bronwyn said,

Lisa said, you're trying to get away from the fact that your husband is a misogynistic asshole. Where did that come from? Like, what did that have to do? Like, why was that brought up here? That had nothing to do.

Kelli (37:32.417)
I think she's...

Lori (37:32.445)
Because that's how she operates. That's how she operates. She just keeps throwing whatever she can out of a basket. She just throws it and it's all about deflection. It is all about deflection.

Kelli (37:38.222)
Yeah.

Wendy (37:47.138)
I mean, first...

Kelli (37:48.174)
And I honestly think Lisa has people telling her like, you could say this, you could say this. I don't think Lisa's coming up with this stuff on her own. I think she's a little bit like Teresa Giudice where she needs people in the background being like, well, you could, could, know, counter with this. You could, I mean, she's doing big things. She's got people.

Wendy (38:08.96)
Well, she definitely has people, I mean, I don't know. You know, then she says, well, the only reason that you brought this up is because you got caught lying. And Bronwyn's like, I explained all of this to them when we were camping. Like she did.

Kelli (38:22.775)
She's multiple times now. She's acknowledged that she lied. She's apologized Listen as a viewer. This is good enough for me anytime. I see a housewife making growth I'm here for it. I don't want to hear about it anymore though

Wendy (38:25.506)
Right. Yes. Yes.

Wendy (38:33.251)
Yeah.

Wendy (38:38.434)
Mm-hmm.

No, and Lisa's the one who keeps bringing it up.

Kelli (38:44.331)
Absolutely.

Kelli (38:48.735)
and she brings up being at Ben Affleck's movie premiere again. Like, listen, you know, again, why is being anywhere Blake Lively is a flex right now? It's not a flex.

Wendy (38:51.692)
Yes. Yes.

and Blake Lively's and Anna Kendrick's, just in case you missed those.

Lori (39:02.655)
It's not. It's not. So. Yeah.

Wendy (39:03.982)
It's not. No, it's really not. No.

Kelli (39:08.099)
Just say Ben and Anna Kendrick.

Kelli (39:14.711)
And Mary jumped in because Lisa started going after Angie and Mary was like, it wasn't only Angie talking about it. We were all talking about it. That was nice to see Mary sticking up for Angie. Although we see it coming attraction, I think they get into it a little bit, but whatever, we'll get there.

Wendy (39:22.978)
It was all of us. Yeah?

Wendy (39:33.058)
Yeah. Angie asked her like, were you hoping to gain from these posters? Lisa said, I'm asking a very simple question and it might even be a two-parter. What was your motive for talking bad about me and what were you hoping to gain from that? And Angie's like, well, I've seen you talk about people's businesses and she's referring to Whitney. This is what Lisa doesn't understand. She thinks that she can just say whatever it is she wants about anybody because she is the one.

Her and Meredith are the one that did the Alibaba thing with Whitney's business.

Kelli (40:06.329)
They totally brought it out. They totally brought it out. Because didn't Heather tell Whitney, were they in Vegas? They were somewhere last year, right? Yeah, so Heather brought it out, but that's because Lisa and Meredith somehow got it to Heather. Yeah, like that was the big thing last year. We never found out who or why or how, but they were the ones.

Wendy (40:08.962)
Right.

Wendy (40:14.646)
I think, yes.

Wendy (40:21.059)
Lisa.

Wendy (40:30.711)
Right.

Right. And Whitney has explained that whole thing. You know, she explained it. And that's one of the things I really do like about Whitney is that she is very transparent. Like, she really is. Like, if something comes up, she explains it. And, you know, whether you believe her or not is one thing, but she doesn't try to, like, pretend like it didn't happen or act like a lunatic. And she does stand her ground, which I also like.

Kelli (40:46.733)
Yeah, she's an open book.

Wendy (41:02.06)
You know, I like that she stands her ground.

Kelli (41:04.345)
I know she went a little bit off the rails here, Whitney.

Lori (41:08.081)
Listen, if I had to deal with Lisa Borrello, I would be like a screaming fucking freight train also, because who, who could stand it?

Kelli (41:15.524)
Yeah.

Wendy (41:19.372)
She did get frustrated at the end and, you know, talking about that, you know, at the end, Lisa was trying to insult her by calling her a redhead. And she thought she said, she thought she said redneck, right? When she real, she thought she said redneck when she realized that she said redhead and was insulting her with it, cause she put it out on her post. She's like that even like,

Lori (41:21.513)
Who could stand it?

Kelli (41:32.089)
So weird.

Lori (41:35.912)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (41:36.661)
she did! She did!

Wendy (41:47.746)
That even makes me madder because that's the whole reason she dyed her hair red and she put it out there like all the natural redheads. stop it, like just stop it. And like Lisa just is so immature and just continues to perpetuate stupid stuff like that.

Lori (41:51.743)
Right, for her daughter. Right.

Kelli (41:54.596)
That's right.

Kelli (42:03.279)
She's that girl. She's that mean girl from high school. Lisa never grew from that mean girl in high school. She just never grew. There's no growth. So that girl that Heather wants so desperately to be friends with, Lisa's still that girl. Who the fuck would wanna be friends with her?

Lori (42:09.703)
high school. Absolutely not.

Wendy (42:21.71)
She is still that girl.

Lori (42:24.519)
Not me.

Wendy (42:25.89)
Yeah, because, yeah, she also was attacking Angie's looks and saying that she wanted to be like Jen Shaw, that she looks like her and she's using the same hair girl and brow girl and nail girl. And then Mary's like, that brow girl's great. Exactly.

Kelli (42:25.956)
Like.

Kelli (42:36.387)
Listen, Angie's in the beauty industry. If Angie's using someone, we should all want to use them because she is in the beauty industry so she knows who's good and who's not good. So if she's using them, there's a reason why. And I'm sure it has zero to do with Jen Shah. Maybe Jen Shah was using those people because Angie Kay was. Yeah.

Lori (42:42.387)
I'll be using someone, right?

Wendy (42:59.224)
I'm sure that's it. I'm sure that's it.

Lori (42:59.389)
Maybe. Yeah. You like how we did the flashback with the Jared and the texts about the brow girl? And Brittany was like, girl. Yeah.

Wendy (43:05.71)
And the brow girl, yes. Brittany's like, wait, is that, yeah, she's like, wait, is that that brow girl? And Mary's like, that brow girl's great. I was like, oh my God.

Kelli (43:08.069)
yes!

She was trying to have her moment.

Kelli (43:16.079)
That poor waitress she's like, okay is everybody ready to order? Heather was ready to order. What did she say? It was so funny. I have it down here. Man cannot survive on poster boards alone.

Lori (43:20.544)
Mmm.

Lori (43:29.051)
have poster board alone. It's good.

Wendy (43:31.18)
Yep.

Kelli (43:32.771)
That would be me. I'm hungry.

Wendy (43:34.26)
Mm-hmm. That's one thing about Heather. She does have really good one-liners in her confessionals. She does.

Kelli (43:38.863)
She really does. I would like to hang out with Heather, I think. Like, I think Heather would be a really good time to go out with. Yeah.

Lori (43:40.425)
That was tough.

Lori (43:46.972)
I think so. think so. Definitely. Yeah. Anybody who can be on a television show and drink so much that they puke in the van. I'm down for them. I'm down for them. I'm down for them. Right. Then I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (43:50.005)
I totally agree.

Kelli (44:02.263)
I forgot about that, I agree. As long as I don't have to clean it up, I am good. Yeah.

Lori (44:09.705)
So basically Lisa is unhinged. She's unhinged. She's out of her mind because that's how she was acting like crazy person.

Wendy (44:19.928)
So what, yeah, she definitely was. She definitely was. So Whitney asked Lisa, if you're being accused of owing $400,000 and we read about it and we're tagged in about it, like what are we supposed to do? And that's when Meredith jumps in and I could see why, she, Meredith's like, well, there's a lot of accusations about, you you doesn't make them true. And Whitney's like, now you decide to pipe in? Like where were you on the camping trip? And that's.

Kelli (44:46.093)
You know what? They flashed back and Meredith did say, we shouldn't be, we shouldn't discuss this without Lisa.

Lori (44:48.799)
She did. She did.

Wendy (44:54.456)
But that's all she said.

Kelli (44:56.143)
But that's okay because they weren't gonna let it go. She said what she had to say, they weren't gonna let it go, she said nothing more. What is she gonna do? Stand up on the table and be like, stop talking about it. They still weren't gonna stop talking about it. But she at least said that. I mean, she could have gotten up and walked away, but you know.

Wendy (45:13.454)
She did say that.

Yeah, that's true. She did at least say that, but that's when Brittany jumps in and said, well, I was surprised that Meredith didn't say more. And then Meredith is like, starts, that's funny, Brittany, coming from you, one lie after another. And Brittany's like, no, I want it your perspective as a lawyer. No, Brittany, you just want to throw her under the bus. You just wanted to throw her under the bus in front of Lisa.

Lori (45:33.31)
Yeah, OK.

Kelli (45:33.475)
Well, you weren't gonna get it.

Lori (45:37.122)
huh.

Kelli (45:37.781)
Exactly. Yes.

Lori (45:39.807)
Exactly.

Wendy (45:42.792)
And then Mary even jumps in and says to Meredith, no, you didn't stick up for your friend. And I was surprised because Meredith and Mary actually are friends. And I saw her on an interview recently and she was, I might have been page six. She was saying that she's still friends with Mary, Meredith, and she's still friends with Angie. But when she wants to do something boring, she hangs out with Meredith.

If she wants to find out all the information, she hangs out with Angie. So I was like, so funny.

Kelli (46:13.689)
That's funny.

Lori (46:14.335)
That's so funny.

Kelli (46:16.473)
That's pretty funny.

Lori (46:18.163)
So basically Lisa's lunch did nothing but prove she's out of her mind. And I'm left feeling like, okay, well, you can do all the poster boards you want, but you're not, I never heard her say, this is not a situation where I don't owe him money.

Wendy (46:43.712)
No, she didn't.

Kelli (46:44.771)
No, and that's basically what Brahman's saying. And you know, again, like I said earlier, it was very Tamra-ish behavior. And my thing with Tamra is when she does act like that, I think she's guilty because that's how you act when you're guilty, right? You get defensive, you start yelling, you start trying to distract from what's really going on. And I feel like that's what Lisa was doing here today. I think.

Lori (47:03.283)
when you protest it. Right.

Right. Right.

when you protest with too much.

Kelli (47:14.319)
So I think that Lisa's lawsuit is not dismissed. definitely, there may have been five to begin with. Maybe there's not five anymore, but this one seems to still be standing. And you could deny claims, but it doesn't mean it's dismissed. You can put dismissed on the cover of it, but it doesn't mean that it's dismissed in the court of law.

Lori (47:29.503)
Oh, you want. All right. Right.

Wendy (47:29.698)
Right. Right.

Wendy (47:38.734)
It's very true. mean, the end of this episode, the way she was carrying on and yelling and screaming like a lunatic and flailing her arms was just ridiculous because she's the one who set this up. She had control of this. She was supposed to have control of this. And right, she couldn't maintain it because honestly what she brought was garbage. She didn't bring anything that was real. She thought all these props were gonna explain it away. They were just props. That's all they were. They meant nothing. They were useless.

Kelli (47:53.561)
She was supposed to. She couldn't maintain it though.

Lori (47:56.457)
No.

Lori (48:00.678)
Nothing. Nothing.

Lori (48:08.723)
Yeah, she explains nothing.

Wendy (48:09.706)
And yeah.

Kelli (48:12.429)
And know, Whitney, she definitely lost her shit at the end. I don't blame her, but I'm glad she walked away when she did. Like, it seemed like she could sense herself, like, really, really starting to lose it. Yep.

Lori (48:23.954)
Right. She's about to pummeler.

Wendy (48:26.126)
Well, cause she walked right over to her too. And like, you know, she, I thought she was walking out and then she walked right over to her and I was like, but no, she did walk out.

Lori (48:28.135)
Mm-hmm. About to pummel her.

Kelli (48:35.587)
Did you see how smug Lisa looked at the end of that though? She had a very smug look on her face.

Wendy (48:43.052)
Yeah, I did. So did Meredith, though. Meredith had the same smug look on her face.

Kelli (48:47.791)
think Meredith always has a smug look on her face. Even when she's DJing.

Lori (48:49.885)
It's just true.

So on Watch What Happens Live, 88 % of people were not on Lisa's side. Yes, yes. And when asked if they felt they agreed that Lisa had a very different life, 93 % said no. Did the poster boards win you over? 92 % said no.

Wendy (48:55.211)
Yes.

Kelli (49:03.905)
And Lisa was there, right?

Wendy (49:06.156)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (49:24.847)
It's bad when you're there and you lose polls.

Lori (49:25.459)
Yeah. And for the taglines, yeah, and you get roasted. Yeah. And for the taglines, Mary's won by, hers was 67%. So hers got the highest of votes.

Wendy (49:39.98)
The next highest was Braun wins with 14%.

Lori (49:42.74)
Yeah. And then they were talking about, and watch what happens live. They were talking with Sean Avery and they were talking about the whole gout deck thing. And Andy says, my God, I can't believe he's, he says, well, I know my way around a dick, but I've never seen a cow dick. I was like, okay.

Kelli (50:05.103)
Honey.

Wendy (50:07.756)
Yeah, another poll question was whose team would you rather hang out with and team D won by 76 %

Kelli (50:08.559)
You

Kelli (50:15.447)
And did you, but did you see Lisa like, yay, team A. Is that because the audience?

Lori (50:19.795)
Yeah, no! No!

Wendy (50:19.896)
Yeah.

Yes, the audience, no, the audience voted for Team A. The audience.

Kelli (50:24.259)
The audience must, yeah, because exactly. I'm sorry, I'm going, again, I'm going wherever Heather is. And she has annoyed me in the past in other seasons, but I still think she'd be super fun to hang out with.

Lori (50:26.495)
Because she's there. Of course they're going to ask it.

Wendy (50:29.612)
Yeah.

Lori (50:42.247)
And I'm going wherever Lisa is not. That's where I'm going. That's where I'm going.

Wendy (50:42.466)
She's a good time girl.

Kelli (50:45.721)
What?

Wendy (50:45.91)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (50:48.431)
But it was interesting that Heather was, wait, was Heather with Lisa? She must've been, so I'm not going with Heather. No, I'm not going with Heather. That's fine, I'll hang out with Angie Kay and Mary.

Lori (50:55.699)
No, you're not.

No, that's what I'm saying.

Wendy (50:59.119)
no.

Yeah. No, no, Mary was there. Mary was with, Mary was in the first. Hold on. Hold on one second. Let me give you the teams.

Lori (51:02.501)
anywhere that Lisa is not.

Kelli (51:08.279)
Lisa? I'm really torn now.

Lori (51:13.851)
I have no such problem. Whatever team Lisa's on, that's a team that I'm not on. It's very simple for me.

Kelli (51:18.114)
Lisa's not on.

Okay.

Wendy (51:23.958)
Okay, so yeah, it was Meredith, Heather, Mary, and Amy with Lisa. Yeah, so you're gonna go with Angie, Whitney, Brittany. Do have to go with Brittany? And Bronwyn.

Kelli (51:29.429)
I'm not going with them. I'm not going with

Lori (51:35.999)
I will have no problem being with Brittany as long as I don't have to be with Lisa.

Wendy (51:40.398)
That's a good point.

Kelli (51:41.089)
Okay, you know what? I'm with you, because I could- I can either ignore Brittany or tell her to shut up.

Wendy (51:47.82)
Yes.

Lori (51:47.825)
Or just, or just let her stupidity amuse you. That's all. Just, it's funny. It's funny.

Wendy (51:54.147)
Mm.

So Andy also asked Lisa about her confessional look with her eye, because that got so much

Kelli (52:02.035)
yeah.

Lori (52:03.429)
There was not really a straight answer. It was like word salad answer.

Wendy (52:05.696)
Well, so because I, she didn't want to throw her glam under the bus, but she did do a post about it. So it was her glam. was, you know, wasn't, one eye wasn't done the same as the other eye. And she wound up redoing that, that confessional look. So for the rest of it, it's not gonna, it's not gonna look like that. So she wound up, wound up reshooting it, which is good because.

Kelli (52:07.695)
She didn't want to throw her glam under the bus, but then she did.

Kelli (52:27.759)
It was lighting also because one side of her face was much more bronzed than the other one. And you might not be able to make your eyes identical, but when you're bronzing someone's face, you're going to be even throughout the face. It's very difficult not to, unless you purposefully only do one side of the face. It was lighting also. The producers are the ones who really did her dirty.

Lori (52:55.976)
Ha ha!

Kelli (52:56.227)
Cause the producer should have been like, listen, the math is not mathing, the matching is not matching. So go get fixed.

Lori (52:59.741)
Yeah, there's some kind of malfunction here.

Wendy (52:59.757)
Right.

Wendy (53:05.646)
Yes. Yes, exactly. That's what they should have done.

Lori (53:09.395)
Well, good call producers, I'm so sorry, but.

Wendy (53:12.878)
the

Kelli (53:13.183)
No, they did her dirty. They must be as fed up as the rest of America with her.

Lori (53:17.087)
Can you imagine working with her continuously? No. No.

Kelli (53:22.893)
I mean, how do those producers keep up with the big things she's doing? They must be exhausted by the end of the day. And how come we don't see the big things that you're doing? We saw you setting up a party tonight and you mentioning who was gonna be there. And I get it if these celebrities don't wanna be on Salt Lake City and don't wanna sign a waiver or anything, but there's something else she can do to let us in on the big things she's doing.

Lori (53:28.543)
makes sense.

Kelli (53:52.973)
Because otherwise then you're not a good housewife and you're not really sharing your real life.

Wendy (53:57.9)
No, I agree with that. And something else that came out on Watch What Happens Live, Sean Avery had made some comment. He was obviously Team Lisa. He had made some comment that Bronwyn was deflecting because supposedly something's coming up. And I did see online what is coming up. So Bronwyn, there was criminal charges fighting.

filed against Bronwyn in 2021. But long story short is it was taken care of and it was sealed. So I think it's gonna, it was sealed, it was sealed. So I think at some point in this season, it's gonna come up and I would imagine it's gonna be Lisa that brings it up, but she can't talk about it.

Kelli (54:38.401)
was sealed?

Lori (54:39.535)
Resealed.

Kelli (54:50.679)
If it's sealed, we'll never know what it is.

Wendy (54:52.936)
Exactly. We'll never know what it is and she can't talk about it.

Lori (54:53.085)
Right. I believe that somewhere in that, in Watch What Happens Live, in the interaction between the two of them, there was some kind of reference that Lisa has something to do with Sean Avery's...

PR something. So I think there's a reason why he's an ass kiss to her.

Wendy (55:17.838)
It's on her side. Yeah, yeah. mean, she does kind of have a PR company.

Lori (55:23.687)
I believe that he's a client of hers because he was very skewed towards her and I believe that that's what it is.

Kelli (55:31.695)
Well, somebody put on social media, much did she have to pay him to basically side with her all night?

Wendy (55:35.51)
Yeah. Yes.

Lori (55:37.408)
Yeah, but I think somehow he's a client of some kind of PR thing through her or something that she's involved with. I, you know, that's why he was, I think he had to be kind of a thing. Just like the audience had to vote for Lisa because she was in their faces. You know what I mean? Same kind of deal. Same kind of deal, yeah.

Kelli (55:58.904)
Right, she was right there, yeah.

Wendy (55:59.456)
Yes, yes. Yeah. So we'll have to wait and see what comes up about Bromlyn, but I think she's going to be fine. Because it says it was sealed. It was dismissed 10 plus years ago.

Kelli (56:11.279)
Yeah, you can't talk about it then.

really? Who gives a shit then?

Wendy (56:18.294)
Yeah, but it's weird though, because then it also says on May 28th, 2021, there was a post. it was a post. Okay, no, it wasn't the actual. So it was dismissed 10 plus years ago. So I guess they started, I guess it was brought up in 2021, which she wasn't even on the show then. you know what I'm saying? She wasn't even on the show.

Kelli (56:32.661)
There wasn't even a Salt Lake City show yet.

Wendy (56:39.308)
We'll know we're on season six.

Kelli (56:41.423)
Yeah, but it wasn't 10 years ago.

Wendy (56:43.2)
No, I'm saying in 2021 when the post was what? Yes, yes. Yeah. So we'll have to wait and see. I mean, I'm excited to see the Greece trip. I'm excited to see the cruise with Captain Jason. And I'm wondering if that's in Greece. Like, I wonder if that's where they're taking the cruise. would think. Awesome. Izzy? I don't know. I mean, it's below deck med. He could be in Greece.

Kelli (56:44.847)
Oh, in 2021. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Kelli (56:57.476)
I'm so excited for that.

Kelli (57:04.023)
And did- well yeah, he's in Greek- no.

Kelli (57:11.641)
He's down under, he's Australia. Sandy's below Deck Med.

Wendy (57:14.242)
Well, I don't know if he is.

Wendy (57:20.672)
Is he down under this time though?

Kelli (57:23.971)
He's always been down under. He's never been on any other franchise.

Wendy (57:27.456)
Okay, so then it's Australia then. So they must be going to Greece and Australia?

Kelli (57:29.571)
But maybe, I don't know.

Lori (57:32.543)
Or maybe he did, it's like a guest thing and he's just coming to Greece for that little crossover or whatever, blah, blah,

Kelli (57:36.301)
Right. Right. Right, right, right.

Wendy (57:39.67)
I guess we'll have to wait and see. I don't know. But I'm ex-

Kelli (57:41.603)
I wonder if he hooks up with Heather, because I'd be here for that.

Wendy (57:46.798)
Watch what happens live

Kelli (57:48.877)
Who was just talking about him?

Kelli (57:53.806)
And they said he's, yeah, not Adriana, somebody else was talking about how they were supposed to be introduced to him. Was it Luanne? Lou, it was Lou. And she's like, know, he talks to a lot of Bravo girls. At BravoCon, he makes his rounds.

Wendy (58:05.74)
Yes.

Lori (58:09.446)
huh, huh.

Wendy (58:10.178)
He does, he does.

Lori (58:13.573)
Mm-hmm. And Kelly, I heard this on a podcast today that you will not be happy to hear. I forget the name of the podcast. I should have wrote it down. But anyway, they have a friend who's very analytical and every time something Bravo comes out, they look at all the numbers and the stats and everything. And supposedly, Teresa has the most...

Wendy (58:15.639)
Yeah.

Lori (58:41.705)
What do they call it a BravoCon when they talk? Panels. She's on the most panel so far for BravoCon. And they just released like the, no, they just released like the playback thing of Jersey. Like it's just, they just put it out like, yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. Yes.

Kelli (58:48.067)
That's interesting, isn't it?

Wendy (58:53.73)
The schedule, they just released the schedule.

Wendy (59:03.042)
What do mean the playback thing?

Kelli (59:05.423)
They're rerunning it on Bravo right now.

Yep, they're rerunning it. Because they've been doing Potomac because it's coming out. And I just noticed today, it's in my DVR, a shit ton of New Jersey episodes, which I've rewatching it on Peacock.

Lori (59:10.276)
Re-running a novel right now, yeah.

Lori (59:16.627)
deathly to the jersey, right?

So they were just saying how that's kind of interesting how, you know, maybe this is a sign that Jersey's moving along. Yeah.

Kelli (59:28.075)
I think they're trying to get a feel for it. I think they're trying to get a feel for bringing her back. I don't think they were planning on doing it, but I think they're trying to get a feel for it. We will see.

Lori (59:37.311)
So we'll see.

Wendy (59:39.01)
Well, I think they're making the announcement though at BravoCon. I think that's where they're going to announce it. Right? I don't know.

Kelli (59:43.556)
Right, it's only October 1st, so they have until November to make some kind of, they can pivot, even if they're not filming with her now. If they wanna add her back in, they just pivot and add her back in. I don't know if you saw this, but allegedly, Denise Richard is allegedly dropped a video, put up a video of her soon to be ex-husband.

Lori (59:43.578)
Well that would be the smartest thing.

Kelli (01:00:12.451)
being physical with her.

Lori (01:00:14.513)
that's no surprise.

Wendy (01:00:14.689)
Kelli (01:00:17.121)
I saw a post allegedly, I don't know if it's true. I don't even know if she even did it. I saw it right before we came on on social media that she played a video. She posted a video of him being physical with her. Now, all I could think about was Teddy in the backyard at Kyle's house. Remember when they were all sitting down eating and she was like, ooh, does that make you feel like a big man talking to me like that? I wonder if they knew. Like, I wonder if he is.

physical if he was physical with her abusive and they knew

Wendy (01:00:51.531)
bravo knew you mean?

Kelli (01:00:53.231)
The housewives I'm not necessarily saying the producers or anything like that. I'm just saying if the housewives knew If Teddy knew in that moment by saying does that make you feel like a real man talking to me like that? Sounds like something somebody would say to somebody if they were somewhat abusive with their significant other

Wendy (01:01:01.805)
Well

Lori (01:01:13.225)
Right, right.

Wendy (01:01:15.343)
I mean, it could be. It's very.

Lori (01:01:16.849)
I still, there's a new show coming on that I want to watch on brand with both month with Bosma. it came on already. I want to watch it. I want to watch it.

Wendy (01:01:23.992)
yeah, I watched it. watched, yes, last night, it was on last night. It's kind of like The Apprentice. It's with Bosma and Jimmy Fallon and marketing, yes.

Kelli (01:01:28.397)
What is that?

Lori (01:01:34.365)
And you got to do marketing. It's like regular people have to come up with a whole marketing campaign for like Dunkin' Donuts. And then there was one for, yeah, looked really cool.

Kelli (01:01:43.267)
I'll watch that.

Wendy (01:01:44.694)
Yes, I watched the first episode.

Kelli (01:01:46.211)
I don't know how we're gonna do that with all these Housewives shows, but...

Lori (01:01:49.439)
I don't know, but it looks cute.

Wendy (01:01:49.964)
Well, well, we can you can watch it. We don't have to necessarily recap it. You know, we can just mention it. mean, I did watch it. Yeah. The first episode is Dunkin Donuts and you know. It's a good it's a good it's a good episode, and for some reason it said the next one's on Friday, so I think that they just put it on to premier it on. Tuesday and they're going to then.

Lori (01:01:54.791)
Yeah, maybe watch, you know, Minton in every five episodes or whatever, just give a little rundown of what happened.

okay.

Wendy (01:02:18.55)
I think Friday's the spot for it. I don't know though. I don't know. But yes, no.

Kelli (01:02:22.307)
I saw it on Peacock when I went on there today, but I didn't know what it was.

Bosma, though.

Lori (01:02:29.823)
I

Wendy (01:02:29.952)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm happy for her. I'm happy for her. All right. So I think that's it for this episode. So until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please give us five star reviews and subscribe. Bye.

Kelli (01:02:32.079)
Good for her. Me too.

Kelli (01:02:45.827)
Bye.

Lori (01:02:46.442)
Bye.