RHORI S1 E9 The Clique vs. Rosie??

lori (00:02.776)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whatever. This is Lori.

Kelli (00:06.593)
And I'm Kelly.

lori (00:07.954)
And tonight we're talking about Real Housewives of Rhode Island season one, episode nine, Questionable Behavior from all involved, I would have to say, from all involved. So we see Kelsey leaving Rosie's and she calls Liz to tell her what's going on. And in her confessional, Kelsey says that Rosie has had affairs with

Two married men, one at work and ruined his marriage, and then some other baseball coach who paid her off and that is how she was able to buy her house. And I was thinking to myself.

Kelli (00:48.792)
Which I thought was real funny because w why do you like why would you even say that, Rosie? Your ex is supposedly paying your rent right now too.

lori (00:57.504)
Yeah, I was just like what are you what are you doing?

Kelli (01:00.0)
And when she called Liz, unless they edited it out, she failed to mention that she rolled up to Rosie's house with a loudspeaker and a siren yelling insulting things about the square footage of her home. Unless they edited it out. Right.

lori (01:09.343)
Right. Right.

lori (01:14.196)
Right. Yeah. Yeah, who knows. And then Ashley and Jared are shopping for the coffee shop and Rosie FaceTimes and tells Ashley what happened with Rosie. And Ashley clearly is saying to Rosie, Well, she must have been joking.

lori (01:39.554)
Which whether it was a good idea to be joking or not, she still was joking. I mean I'm not saying it was a great idea, but

Kelli (01:45.759)
Yeah, I no, it wasn't just because of the place they were in. Like if you're coming to my house and we're trying to make amends and you roll up like that, I I believe I would have had the same reaction as Rosie. I'm I'm pretty certain.

lori (01:50.945)
Yeah, right.

lori (02:00.265)
Right, right, right. Yeah. And I didn't like this. I did not like that Rosie was gonna be in high schoolish with Ashley like well, like I'm not gonna come if she comes and like I don't want you inviting her. Like, don't if this person is your fr you're a big girl and this person is your friend

Why are you gonna make Ashley feel like she's in the middle of something?

Kelli (02:31.478)
I feel like Rosie does that to Ashley a lot. And I think it's unfair because listen, Ashley is an awkward person, you could just tell. And she I'm sure it can't be easy for her to make friends. So the fact that she even got this gig on Real Housewives, yes, I know that she was on Love Island, whatever she was on, and that brings people in. Of course they want her 'cause it'll bring a whole different demographic, but

lori (02:41.622)
Mm-hmm.

lori (02:52.455)
Right, right, right. Right.

Kelli (02:58.242)
Don't put her in that position 'cause she's just trying to make friends as it is, and it doesn't look like it comes easy to her.

lori (03:00.085)
Yeah.

lori (03:04.651)
Yeah, I I just didn't I didn't dig that. I was like, girl, no. You know?

Kelli (03:11.426)
Right. And she was kind of giving her an ultimatum.

lori (03:12.298)
And that

Yeah, and I was like, no, that's that's rude. That's that's kinda fucked up. And then we see Rula and Alicia meet up at the beach. It's been a long time since I looked like that in a bathing suit. I was happy for them. Mm, mm hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Kelli (03:17.474)
Mm.

Kelli (03:25.58)
No shit, dude. I mean Rula, God bless her. I mean both of them, but Alicia seems younger to me. Right? Like Rula I feel like is a little bit old like whatever. God bless both of them. They both look great. This seemed like a very produced scene though. With the neighbor.

lori (03:38.87)
Yeah, it looked great, yeah. come on, they just happened to run into yeah, Amanda. Yeah. That supposedly has issues with Jo Ellen. I just think Joelan's messy. I just think it's her way. It's her way. She's just messy. You know, I feel like she's that typical it all stems from her childhood. Like she feels like she has to go above and beyond with everything.

Kelli (03:51.234)
Right. Yeah, for sure.

Kelli (04:08.064)
Right. Right. For attention or whatever. Right.

lori (04:09.747)
In order to be seen and heard. In order to be seen and heard, you know? So

Kelli (04:15.16)
She should she should be careful though 'cause I I just I have a bad feeling about her husband. Like you know I I feel like the you know, I I think it it's somewhere in my no these guys well, it is in my notes. We'll we'll get there. We'll get there. When they all go to dinner.

lori (04:30.997)
Okay. Right. So Rula's saying that she's trying to stay in like a good headspace and protect herself, like build herself back up. That's why she doesn't want to be around Joe Allen. And Alicia in her confessional says that her mom took her dad back a couple of times and she doesn't blame her. And then then they start to discuss like Ruella's situation if she were to like exit the marriage.

And then Alicia's like lack of financial independence. And Rola tells her, you know, you need to claim your steak and pizza mama.

Kelli (05:09.418)
I do love that Rula is giving Alicia such good advice financially. You didn't watch it at the time, but years ago on Real Housewives of New Jersey, when Dolores first came on the show, she didn't work. She didn't sh Frank Catania, her ex husband, was still paying all of her bills. And there was another housewife, Siggy, on. And she was financially independent.

lori (05:14.558)
Absolutely.

Kelli (05:36.781)
And then remarried her husband, Michael Campanella. And she was giving Dolores very good advice about becoming independent and doing getting her own financial independence. And she did. So this is very reminiscent of that. And I and I like it because I mean not that I could afford to live on my own because I can't, but I do work. I do contribute. And it, you know, it it it's it's a good feeling.

lori (05:47.447)
Okay.

lori (05:57.301)
Right.

lori (06:02.175)
Yeah. So I thought I thought that was really nice. But I thought Alicia was so funny when Rule is telling her, you know, you might want to start like, you know, getting your own like account, like, you know, it's like socking away some money for yourself. And Alicia's like, Yeah, well I was doing ten dollars a week and then I stopped. And I like you know, God bless her. Rule was like, Well, that's better than no dollar. Right.

Kelli (06:23.202)
Ha ha ha.

Kelli (06:30.478)
It's so

lori (06:32.919)
Mm. And then we see Jo Allen and Gary, Liz and Jerry, and Kelsey and Billy meet up for dinner. Did you s did you happen to see Jo Allen's pocketbook?

Kelli (06:43.447)
No, I didn't.

lori (06:44.631)
You have to look at it. It's very cool. I liked it a lot. Mm-hmm. Very cool.

Kelli (06:48.14)
Really?

I did notice that when Kelsey's boyfriend Bill went to say hi to Liz, he said hi, boss. Did you catch that?

lori (06:59.799)
no, that's funny. Mm-hmm. That's a good one. Hi boss. Mm-hmm. So, let's see. Liz in Confessional says she's shocked that Rosie called Joelyn, 'cause we found out that Rosie called Joelen. And that that they she didn't think that they were really friends, and that she Liz thinks that Joelyn is playing both sides, and I do see her doing that.

Kelli (07:02.67)
Mm-hmm. Hi boss.

lori (07:29.707)
You know, she'll kinda change her tune according to who she's with about how she sees something.

Kelli (07:34.88)
I d I yeah, I I see it. But I don't hate that she's also being a sounding board for Rosie because I do think Rosie's getting like piled on here. And I do think that Kelsey is a mean girl. I do not like Kelsey. She is a mean girl.

lori (07:48.788)
Yeah, you you can

lori (07:56.088)
Yeah, I'm not particularly a fan myself.

Kelli (07:58.999)
And I don't love Rosie. I just don't like to see anybody get piled on like that.

lori (08:03.487)
Right. Well, you know, there's gotta be something there because there are several times this episode when Rosie throws out the whole click thing. You know, so and Kelsey tells everybody about how you know, Rosie told her that she sucks dick for a living and called her slam pig and they Google slam pig and and then you know

Kelli (08:13.218)
Mm-hmm. Right. Right.

lori (08:33.887)
It it was just a weird thing to bring up at the table. Kelsey asks, you know, do they think it's normal for an ex to pay for things after they split? And why would you do that to your boyfriend?

Kelli (08:47.04)
I totally agree. And then

lori (08:48.341)
Like, okay, if that's the reality, take the dude's money, get your shit together, blah blah blah. But don't shove it in his face. It's already nice enough that he's hung out while you were still with him waiting for your dumb ass. But then you're gonna you're gonna like muddy it up with like I don't know. Kelsey seems like

Kelli (08:58.774)
Exactly.

Kelli (09:10.05)
Yeah. And then Jerry saying that when he started dating Liz, her ex-boyfriend would just shove money under the door. People, stop giving yourselves away, okay? We we know what that means. We we know we're from New Jersey. We get it. Stop talking, or you're gonna wind up like Joe and Teresa, because this is what those fools did.

lori (09:22.657)
Yeah. Right?

lori (09:30.771)
Yeah, it it's just

lori (09:36.031)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah. And then Joelyn's husband asks if Kelsey's ex expects anything in return and Kelsey answers that she goes back to give him a blowjob once a week. Well Bill's Billy's face was sad at all. Sad at all. She just seems like the type that would never be alone.

Kelli (09:53.102)
Yeah. I mean

Kelli (10:01.088)
she'll never be alone. But how about this? She basically says that she she can't move in with Billy or Bill, whatever, because then her ex will stop paying her bills. She basically comes out and says that.

lori (10:02.315)
Would never be alone.

lori (10:17.215)
I don't know. And then I was confused. Cause somebody says, Well, I don't want to be homeless like Alicia. I thought it was Joe Allen.

Kelli (10:29.698)
It would make more sense if it was Kelsey though, wasn't it? Doesn't it wouldn't it? Like if her ex stops paying her rent?

lori (10:33.663)
Yeah, but I couldn't tell.

Right. So maybe it was her. I just couldn't tell. Like the camera angle was like you couldn't tell. You couldn't tell who said it.

Kelli (10:45.184)
Either way it's a shady thing to say. 'Cause you're saying you're kinda making fun of her by saying it, let's face it.

lori (10:50.143)
Right. And then Joelyn says that, you know, she went home and asked Gary, because Gary's mother and Alicia's mother have been best friends since they were seventeen. He's like, Well, I never heard of them being homeless and Liz says, you know, that Alicia has always had a very good life and that she was taken aback when Alicia

Kelli (11:04.024)
Yeah.

lori (11:18.825)
Alicia said that and she doesn't think the dad could take the house away from the mom and kids.

Kelli (11:24.214)
Well he did. He did. He stopped paying the bills or whatever happened and they had to leave their house, leaving them homeless. Whether they then went in to move in with the grandmother or the aunt or the neighbor or the guy down the road, they their home was taken from them. Like this is just semantics. But Liz even weighing in on this is weird. And the end the end of this episode is so weird.

lori (11:25.173)
Well he did. Yeah.

lori (11:43.681)
Right.

lori (11:48.875)
Yeah, it's wild. Like I don't get it.

Yeah, like why she's so up in it, I don't get.

Kelli (11:56.011)
Exactly. And who Gary, I mean, is that his name, G Jo Allen's husband?

lori (12:02.263)
Think so, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (12:04.44)
Shut up. We don't care if you knew or not. First of all, you're a boy, so your mother could have told you fifteen times that this happened and you weren't it's not gonna register. Right. And maybe maybe Alicia's mom didn't share that with your mother.

lori (12:05.515)
Yeah, sure, exactly.

lori (12:15.743)
It's not gonna register, right?

lori (12:21.311)
Right. Right. So the girls meet up at it's Audrey's, right? Or is it Audree's? Okay, that's why I was confused. I was like, what the hell's the name of it? Okay. All right, so she's funny. So the girls meet up for Trivia Night and Jo Allen asks Rosie how she is.

Kelli (12:31.212)
Yes, but Alicia calls it Aubrey's.

Kelli (12:37.302)
It is Audrey's, but Alicia was calling it Audree's. Yeah.

lori (12:48.785)
And Liz asked Rosie if she wasn't in some small way trying to get back at Kelsey with the plans. Which she was. She was. and then and then you can start to see the tension that's between Liz and Jo Allen. You can start to see that there. And I was like, ooh okay, okay, okay.

Kelli (13:09.997)
Yes.

Kelli (13:14.7)
Yeah, because this is like, let me talk, you know, and Joel's like, Well, let her talk. She's trying to answer you, and you and Liz does not stop talking. You know what I find interesting to the point of the whole click thing? Dolores has said that, and I think this is so fucked up, but this is Dolores. This is who Dolores is. Dolores has said that she thinks Rosie had a problem with her filming, and that's why she didn't film a lot. no.

The Rosie Rosie's like a nobody they're all nobodies right now. Nobody's telling production we don't want Dolores here. But this is who Dolores is because her friend Liz wants to have a problem with Rosie because Kelsey does. Dolores is gonna ride that all she can. That's who she is.

lori (13:50.613)
Right. What to do or what not to do, no.

lori (14:03.463)
Mhm. Mhm. I saw that. I saw that a clip from a podcast or whatever where she did say that about Rosie.

Kelli (14:11.702)
As if Rosie said to a producer, I don't want Dolores here and they like, okay, Rosie. Like who is Ro who is Rosie to be calling this? She's not calling any shots.

lori (14:16.993)
Yeah.

lori (14:22.007)
Yeah, I thought that was weird too. I was thinking to myself, What are you talking about, Delores? What are you talking about? Yeah. So then in Confessional, Liz says she knows Rosie says she felt disrespected, but she says, is it that or she just can't take a joke?

Kelli (14:24.066)
Yep. Nah, that's who Dolores is though.

lori (14:40.257)
So and I love how the first

Kelli (14:42.336)
I'd love to see any of these other women if somebody rolled up to their house on a loudspeaker yelling things about their house and the square footage of it. I'd love to see it. I mean Liz might be too stoned to even notice it was going on, which God bless her for it. But I think the rest of them would be pretty jacked up.

lori (14:51.958)
Yeah.

lori (14:55.593)
Yeah.

lori (15:00.905)
And I love how the first trivia question is about a pig. Did you catch that? That was great from production. I was like, okay. And then Kelsey comes into Trivia wearing a Miss Slam pig USA banner and a Tiara. And Alicia goes over to Rosie and says she thinks Rosie has been the punching bag. And I thought Alicia's trying to be Switzerland. There's nothing wrong with that. And this was odd.

Kelli (15:05.164)
Yes, I did notice that.

Kelli (15:26.38)
Yeah. Yeah, I did too.

lori (15:30.375)
Liz comes back to the table and looks at Rosie and says Remember who you are and stop trying to prove a point.

lori (15:45.066)
I what like what I don't understand even what's going on. I I was I was very confused. Yeah with the stupid s exactly, exactly. And Rosie feels everyone is Team Kelsey and they're like letting Kelsey attack Rosie. and Ashley. She cannot take confrontation or she lost her shit.

Kelli (15:49.026)
Right. She should have been saying that to Kelsey with the stupid sash on her.

Kelli (16:11.606)
Nope. Nope.

lori (16:14.283)
She lost her ship.

Kelli (16:14.84)
Who is where?

lori (16:17.451)
Yeah. Holy shit. But listen, if it was me, I'd be like, All right, you've you bitches gotta go. Like I'm not having this in my husband's place of business. I don't give a shit. We're filming a show. You gotta go. You gotta go. I'm the I'm not having it. It's not happening. The fuck out. Everybody can leave. Go, goodbye. I'm fired, okay. Get the fuck out. Like that

Kelli (16:27.212)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (16:43.81)
I think Ashley and Jared are too normal and nice for this. I don't think they're cut out for this. Unfortunately. This is what happens on Bravo. You can't be normal. Look at the Wachilies. Kathy Waqili was the most normal person ever. They shipped her right off that show.

lori (16:49.847)
But then did you

lori (17:01.033)
And then did you see where Ashley goes behind the counter where Jared is and starts crying? And he was like, Go to the go in the office. Like get your shit together, Ashley. He was Yeah, he was like, just s stop go in the office if you can't handle it.

Kelli (17:05.408)
yeah.

Kelli (17:12.487)
Like get your shit together, Ashley. My God

Kelli (17:20.376)
Like what did she think was gonna happen? She had you're dealing with Kelsey and Rosie, neither one of them are backing down and you are having both of them there, which is fine. But w what did you think was gonna happen?

lori (17:33.321)
Right. So either you're gonna do it and talk to them beforehand and say, Look, I know we're on a produced TV show and our job is to make a commotion. Just don't do it in my husband's place of business.

Kelli (17:48.962)
Right. Right.

lori (17:50.336)
So. And then Rosie said that it wasn't just Kelsey's Kelsey's you know, house joke. It was everything that has led up to it. She said it's been weeks of I guess she feels like they're going after her. So And how about when they were all they were all hiding under the table, huh?

Kelli (18:09.026)
Yeah. Liz hides under the table.

lori (18:16.327)
and then Rosie Storm's out making comments about the click. and then

Kelli (18:22.86)
Listen, I wouldn't have stayed either if Kelsey kept coming at me like the little chihuahua that she was. I I wouldn't have been able to stay there. It was either the it was either she was gonna like punch her in the face or leave. Like those were getting to be the two options here.

lori (18:36.405)
Right. I would have never gone back and forth as much as sh they sat there and went back like I wouldn't have put up with that. I would have been like, You know what, Kelsey? You feel a certain way, I feel certain way. I'm just gonna go get a drink. And that's what I would have done. Like

Kelli (18:51.374)
Yeah, yeah.

lori (18:52.961)
Calm and cool and you wanna lose your shit, you can lose it over here by yourself. And then we go to Alicia where she s shares her like science project board with Belly.

Kelli (19:05.934)
My God. I mean, this was so like I I just thought of my kids when they were in like Excel in the middle. Well, when Tess was in Excel in the middle school, Joe was in in elementary, but it wasn't the cool thing to do in middle school for Joe, so he didn't proceed. But those trifold poster boards, man, they were huge in Excel.

lori (19:07.223)
What

lori (19:20.481)
Right.

lori (19:24.759)
Yes, triphone poster boards. Yeah. So she kind of reviews with him like her past and present ideas that made Pizza Mama what it is. And she has some cute ideas though. They're so cute.

Kelli (19:39.737)
She had great ideas. Listen, I used to put notes in my kids' lunches every day. Every damn day. And then I used to rice crispies started making the rice crispy treats where you could put a note right on it. So I started getting those so I could write it on those. I think that is such a nice idea.

lori (19:50.357)
So cute.

lori (19:56.79)
No, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah.

Heart pizza and a pizza with the bow for Christmas. And the little uniform, pizza mama uniform. So cute. I love it. she did. Yeah, I loved it. I loved it all. It's cute. So, it I don't think it was very nice that he said he doesn't trust her with the business. But it did sound like he does have something in the works. You know, he said he had an estate plan and a and a money manager.

Kelli (20:04.812)
Yes. With the bow.

Kelli (20:12.44)
She had great ideas. The swag, the t shirt. Yeah.

Kelli (20:29.687)
I mean I

Kelli (20:33.474)
Mm-hmm. I think he just meant like, you know, she's not gonna she's not gonna be the CEO of anything. Right. I think that's what he meant.

lori (20:41.203)
No, no, no, no, no, no. That's like me being this that's like me being the CEO of anything. No. You want creative ideas? I'm like Alicia. I'm there. I'll cook it up. I'll cook it up all day long. I'll execute them. Whatever you want. But don't ask me how much we're playing for flour, because it's not happening.

Kelli (20:47.498)
R yeah. I think that's what he meant.

lori (21:04.073)
So, and then she asked if they expand and open more locations, will she get a share?

So it's interesting because he said she would get a share of his share.

Kelli (21:21.42)
Yeah, he did say that. So he's got partners. So really it's not up to him solely.

lori (21:22.699)
He did say that and I was like, Ooh, okay. Right. Right. Right. There's so so there must be other investors. And I was like, okay. Yeah.

Kelli (21:33.526)
Right. But that's you know, at le I mean, he's giving her a piece of his piece, which I'm sure ain't too shabby.

lori (21:39.677)
Right, right, right. And then then Rosie calls up Ashley and apologizes.

Kelli (21:46.159)
So I'm sorry. This is what I was gonna say about these guys. I look at these husbands and boyfriends like like they're Jersey guys. So when she's approaching him with all of this, you could see like you you can't put a camera in front of like a like a Jersey guy like our guys, like and then start talking to them about their business, their money.

You can't do that. They're not gonna react well. That's or their family. They're not gonna react well to any of that. So I thought Billy handled this very, very well. Because, you know, I look at these Rhode Island guys like they're Jersey guys or Boston guys. They're like, you know, they're East Coast. Yeah, like don't ask them certain things, certainly not with a camera.

lori (22:17.535)
Or their family.

Yeah. No.

lori (22:33.481)
Absolutely. Yeah. The same this is the same makeup. Right. It's the same makeup. Yeah.

lori (22:42.547)
Right. So then Rosie calls Ashley and apologizes, but why call her and apologize if you sat there and argued with somebody in her place of business? Like you could have not came, you could have gotten up and not interacted from the get go, but you actively sat there for a significant amount of time.

And bah back and forth with Kelsey in your friend's husband's place of business. So it's like don't apologi like you shouldn't have done it in the first place.

Kelli (23:26.444)
I really think she just feels very, very ganged up on. And and it's to the point where she's just like exploding.

lori (23:35.83)
Right. But it's your one friend. So don't don't do her dirty in any way. That's kind of just how I feel, you know what mean? And and then she invites everybody except Kelsey to this club in Boston where Rich does his Frank Sinatra performance. And then we have like three kind of odd little scenes.

Kelli (23:38.818)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (23:43.884)
Right. Yeah, yeah.

lori (24:05.239)
Where Liz is at our house, like smacking her face with some hand paddle. I'm like, What talking to her stepdaughter? I was like, okay. What did we need to fill in? Ten minutes? Like what is

Kelli (24:11.309)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:16.586)
Yeah, and then Kelsey pushing the garbage down with her bare feet. That was disgusting. And what if there was a glass in there or something?

lori (24:20.383)
With her foot? Yeah, it's like I know, was gross. And then kind of flung the garbage right, and then flung the garbage bag.

Like you don't flingar like I was just like, What are you doing? I I was like Bon.

Kelli (24:32.024)
Yeah, she's

Kelli (24:36.384)
Yeah. She's very performative, Kelsey. I'm not into it at all. At all.

lori (24:39.887)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then we had Ashley for five seconds on the phone with her sister toning her hair. And I was like, these are this is like eight minutes of my life I could have done without.

Kelli (24:48.604)
yeah. Like Ashley, you don't get that done somewhere? Yeah. Like why are you toning your own hair? Well, I guess that's kind of an easy thing to do though.

lori (24:59.711)
Yeah. I it was just there was I thought there was very odd scenes. And then Yeah. And then Rosie's husband, Rich, is getting ready for his performance and Rosie says she's never she never heard back from Rula. So now Rula has not gone to Trivia. Rula is not going to the club. The Sinatra thing. She didn't go to the castle. And

Kelli (25:03.254)
Yeah. Fillers, like you said.

Kelli (25:19.788)
The Sinatra. She didn't go to the castle.

Kelli (25:26.708)
I think that Rula has a hard time leaving her house because I think she well, I think she needs to keep an eye on her husband at all times and she doesn't want to be around Jo Ellen. Maybe at this point she's hip to the fact that Jo Ellen's got this video.

lori (25:43.167)
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the deal is. But Rosie needs to stop dressing that dog.

Kelli (25:49.293)
I could not agree with you more. I couldn't agree with you more. It's so stupid.

lori (25:51.114)
Stop dressing the dog. The poor dog. I feel bad for the dog. It's stupid. Some dogs you can dress. That dog. She needs like a plaid outfit. Like stop with the don't dress the dog how you dress. She dresses the dog how she dresses. She does. I'm like, my god. Yeah. And then Alicia and Liz go to Jo Allen's house. And

Kelli (26:08.664)
She does. There's a lot of pink. There's a lot of pink.

lori (26:21.023)
I love Alicia's outfit.

Kelli (26:21.194)
I did love L I loved Liz's outfit. The pink and white

lori (26:25.931)
I like Liz's outfit too. Pink of that was beautiful too. But Alicia's I loved her shoes. Did you spot her shoes? Yeah, they're they're funky though, I love them. Yeah. And then they take their charcuterie in in the car and their drinks. I love it. It's something I would do. Here, let's just take this with us.

Kelli (26:32.472)
Were they black? Chunky? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like those. Yeah.

Kelli (26:44.79)
I know, but you gotta put it in a container where it's not gonna like put it in something. Put it in a tray. Put it in a in a catering tray would have been better with sides coming up. Not on the cutting board, you knuckleheads.

lori (26:49.087)
Right. Tupperware. Right.

lori (26:54.591)
Right. It's just funny.

lori (27:01.533)
All right, and then Lisha Alicia, Liz and Joelyn are in the car and Alicia says she was talking to her mother about her father. And then Liz says she wants to clarify on the you know, you were not homeless comment that she wasn't trying to be insensitive. And so like why are you bickering about semantics? Like why does Liz care?

Kelli (27:26.53)
Because Liz won't fucking let it go, I think. Like, just let Alicia have it. Just give it to her. Her father took the house away from her and her mother. Therefore, she was homeless. She was very quickly able to move in with her grandmother. But she as a little girl felt homeless because her home was gone. Fucking let her have it for crying out loud.

lori (27:29.802)
It's amazing.

lori (27:34.09)
Right.

lori (27:51.979)
Right. Let her have it, right? Yeah.

Kelli (27:55.897)
Like who are you to sit here and and double down and then like Alicia's crying.

And Liz like Liz keeps saying that you know, we we know that that's not homeless. Stop Liz, stop telling the public what what we think homelessness means.

lori (28:19.509)
Right. And Alicia was right. She said you're trying to make a point over like by dissecting my words. And like El Alicia was trying to show, you know, something vulnerable, her emotional state and how she felt homeless. What we don't have to nitpick about the semantics as to whether she was homeless. We're talking about how Alicia felt. That's how she felt. She felt homeless.

Kelli (28:26.35)
Right.

Kelli (28:33.677)
Right.

Kelli (28:40.994)
Right.

Kelli (28:47.606)
Right. Right.

lori (28:49.141)
So Liz says she apologized and Lisa says, but you keep bringing it up and Liz has yelled, You brought it up. And then in her confessional, she says she brought it up to protect Alicia's family. I was like, what? What like what?

Kelli (29:06.466)
I mean, listen, I understand what she's saying, like out of loyalty to Alicia's mother, she's like, you know, she wasn't on the street sleeping on a plastic bat. Like, yeah, we g we get that. We get that. But it's not your job to protect Alicia's family. Alicia's a big girl. She's got her aunts. She's got her mother around her all the time. If she wants to say something, let her have it. Just let her have it.

lori (29:33.055)
Right. And if her mother wants to reprimand her, right, then she'll let her know. Right. Yeah, I didn't get that. I I thought like, Liz, you're you're being like you're being really annoying and mean. Like I don't I don't get it.

Kelli (29:34.914)
And then if her mother has a problem with what she said, her mother will tell her.

Kelli (29:48.201)
I totally agree. And I think that whatever fans Liz had left, she's probably losing them. This was not a good look for Liz at the end of this episode 'cause then she starts getting in Jo Ellen's face, who was just trying to diffuse the situation.

lori (29:54.582)
Yeah.

lori (30:02.251)
Just trying to just trying to mediate and I'm not like some big Joelin fan, but really in the end that's all she was trying to do. Like she saw how upset Alicia was getting and she was just was trying to like bring the peace back and let's just move on. But Liz was ooh, yeah, she was she needs that menopause gummy, man.

Kelli (30:06.508)
Exactly.

Yes.

Kelli (30:22.124)
It was too much. For sure, for sure.

lori (30:27.711)
Yeah. So I don't know. I was like mm.

Kelli (30:30.976)
And next week looks way worse. And and you know, again, like we said them how they were behaving at Audrey's, like now they're going to see Rosie's husband perform. Like that's a live performance. And he said, like I have to be focused on my f you know

lori (30:33.909)
Way worse.

lori (30:47.286)
Now again.

Yeah, again, if I was Rosie, I'd be like, fuck this t fuck this TV show. You just get out of hand. I'm telling ya. I'm you're yeah, I'm kicking you out.

Kelli (30:55.615)
I wouldn't bring them there. I would have thought of something else to do. Yep.

Kelli (31:06.718)
It does look like Jo Ellen gets up to leave. Or walk outside, like excuse herself. Liz is off the off the chain a little bit.

lori (31:12.821)
Right.

lori (31:18.805)
You see them getting up, they her and Liz go outside and have a discussion. But then I guess they still come back inside and go at it, which just it's just it's just not cool. Like if you're somewhere and it's all of you and you have a place to yourselves, argue all you want. But now we have both men's places of business where they earn their living that you're

Kelli (31:27.618)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:37.837)
Right.

Kelli (31:43.96)
Yeah.

lori (31:46.015)
I just don't like it. I just don't think it's I don't think it's cool.

Kelli (31:49.806)
Me neither.

lori (31:51.411)
And I really didn't like seeing Ashley getting so jacked up. Like she looked like she was gonna have a panic attack. Like she's not somebody, you know. So I just don't like I don't like when I figured it out now. I don't like when somebody makes Ashley upset and I don't like when somebody makes Alicia upset. I don't like it.

Kelli (31:57.464)
Yeah.

Kelli (32:12.366)
Yeah. Yeah.

lori (32:15.928)
So we'll see what happens next time. So thank you for watching and listening. And please like and follow and subscribe and do all the things and leave us any reviews that you'd like. Hopefully they're five stars, but if not, so be it. Tis what it is. All right. Bye.

Kelli (32:16.216)
No, I hear ya. I'm I agree.

Kelli (32:34.039)
It is what it is. All right. Bye.