RHOP-Truth, Tequila, and a Touch of Shade

Wendy (00:01.07)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.097)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:05.784)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10, Episode Number 5, Sunshine and Sext.

Kelli (00:15.255)
that's good. Because they went to Sunshine's and Stacey had a failed sext attempt with her ex-husband slash boyfriend. It should have been Sunshine and failed sext, but all right.

Wendy (00:17.366)
Okay.

Wendy (00:26.71)
Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Wendy (00:34.07)
Yeah. We pick up where we left off with Ashley asking Stacey about Chris Samuels. And Stacey first says, like, who told you that? And Ashley said, well, my friend, who's also a publicist, Tatiana, told me that you reached out to her.

Kelli (00:52.751)
So I'm gonna bet my bottom dollar that Ashley is talking to some content creators. We got Tamra doing it, we got Teresa doing it. I'm gonna say Ashley's doing it too.

Wendy (01:00.971)
god...

Wendy (01:10.646)
Yeah, I mean, it's very possible. Stacy says, you know, I adore Chris Samuels. You know, he's a great man, a great father. We are friends. And then as she said, well, how did that friendship come to be? And she said, well, both of us have, you know, gone through a divorce and, know, we have friends in common. And then Angel jumps in and says, well, that Bobby and her know Chris Samuels because Bobby was a mentor to Chris.

So when Chris was being recruited by Alabama, Bobby was already there. And I guess he kind of like gave him some advice or whatever and has stayed in touch with him.

So I thought to myself like what is going on? mean we know that and then she does you know she says well I'm there you know I'm I'm back with my I am back with my ex-husband Which I do I don't know I mean I don't think anything went anywhere with Chris Samuels, but Ashley was saying that Chris Samuels is is the one that's putting this out there. It's not like this is just

Kelli (02:17.647)
that Stacey reached out to him?

Wendy (02:20.064)
Yes, yes. Well, she said she heard it from Tatiana, but then she also said that, know, Chris Samuels is putting it out there too.

Kelli (02:21.273)
I thought she heard it from Tatiana.

Kelli (02:34.831)
Does anybody care? Does anybody care if Stacey is hitting up Chris Samuels? mean, Monique's gonna care, obviously, but is she? They're divorced. I don't care.

Wendy (02:44.366)
I I honestly don't care. I don't care. it's just Ashley, because Stacey was calling out Giselle about dating that NFL player. So Ashley had to jump to her defense and throw out the Chris Samuels because she got that information from Cookie. Right?

Kelli (02:56.889)
That's it.

Kelli (03:02.841)
Right. But I love when Ash, when Wendy called Ashley Captain Saboho, because Gizzy was in the hot seat.

Wendy (03:11.744)
Yep. I mean, listen, Gizzy calls herself Captain Save-A-Ho.

Kelli (03:16.673)
Absolutely. And Stacey is so unbothered by all of this. That's the best part of of Jizzy and Ashley even coming for Stacey for anything. She's so unbothered. It's so good.

Wendy (03:22.413)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (03:33.792)
It is good and that's one of the things that Andy said on Call Her Daddy, that Stacey was his like the best newest addition housewife.

Kelli (03:43.653)
Wow, didn't get, I'm in the middle of listening to that. I didn't get to that part yet. That's a bold statement.

Wendy (03:47.256)
Yeah

I thought so too. I thought so too.

Kelli (03:52.333)
Yeah. I agree though, because she doesn't let them, even like later on when she does, you know, text her husband and Ashley runs right up to Gisele to tell her as she, and Stacey walks out, she's like, stop talking about me. Like she's so unbothered by them. I think it's great. I think it's great.

Wendy (04:12.76)
She really is. She really is.

Wendy (04:19.116)
I think she's got a good personality to deal with them.

Kelli (04:22.091)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Wendy (04:25.55)
Because she's another one, like we've never seen her like act crazy or lose it. Nothing. She's very even keel.

Kelli (04:30.485)
Not at all. No.

Mm-hmm. Yep.

Wendy (04:39.214)
So the ladies have cake for Wendy and they're gonna sing happy birthday but before that happens Kay, Kiana says that she's tired and she's gonna say goodnight so she dips out. So they sing happy birthday and then Ashley says let's play a game.

Kelli (04:54.373)
always ends well.

Wendy (04:57.634)
So they're playing Tell the Truth or Drink Tequila.

First question goes to Wendy. Have you ever been attracted to a woman? Wendy said yes.

Wendy (05:11.468)
He said, I wish you'd asked me that question, because I've always had this crazy crush on Rachel Maddow. I was like, wait, what?

Kelli (05:18.657)
interesting choice. There are numerous women out there that I find very attractive. Rachel Maddow has never come to mind though.

Wendy (05:20.907)
Where did that come from?

Kelli (05:31.683)
mean, she is an attractive woman. She is, and she's very put together. But of all the women out there, that's where you're going, huh?

Wendy (05:31.758)
That's interesting too.

Wendy (05:43.598)
I wonder how Rachel Maddow feels that she is now a part of.

Kelli (05:47.289)
Did you watch what, I didn't watch the whole thing, but I did see on Watch What Happens Live, Andy's like, have you heard from Rachel Maddow? And Tia's like, no, but I hope I do. That is an interesting choice.

Wendy (05:57.388)
Hahaha!

Wendy (06:04.392)
Next, Ashley asks Jassy, do you wholeheartedly believe that there were no infractions happening? Jassy said, you mean with Darius? And she's like, yeah. She's like, well, there were in the past, absolutely. But now she feels like things are good. So Wendy goes next and she asked Angel, if you could kill anyone in this group, who would you kill?

Kelli (06:32.684)
weird question.

Wendy (06:33.986)
I mean, Angel, I mean, listen, I think that's a weird question too. Like, why did we go there?

Kelli (06:38.703)
Yeah, I think that's like very odd.

Wendy (06:42.274)
But she said, listen, in this moment, Giselle.

Kelli (06:45.763)
And good for her.

Wendy (06:48.022)
And Giselle said, my ass is dead. And she said, yeah, you're dead. I was so nice to you. And then you called my ass a catfish. So good for her.

Kelli (06:56.207)
Good for her is right.

Wendy (07:00.982)
I like how Angel stood up for herself. I do. I like that she's not gonna take their crap.

Kelli (07:05.709)
I totally agree with you, because honestly, as messy as Giselle can be, she was fat shaming her. don't care who, I'm sorry. You were speaking on her physical appearance, and that's so fucked up to do to a woman, that's gonna get, you know what I mean? Like, she just had a baby. That's what you were doing, that's what you were doing. That's what Tamara was doing.

Wendy (07:14.082)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (07:25.376)
Absolutely.

Yeah.

Kelli (07:34.031)
by showing the picture of Jen, like this is what these women are doing and nobody's calling them out on it. So yeah, thank God Angel stuck up for herself because nobody else was calling her out on it.

Wendy (07:48.598)
Yeah. And then Wendy and her confessional said, you know, it's funny how when Kiana left, Angel seemed to rise from the ashes like a phoenix. mean, I don't, listen, I don't know that she rose from the ashes like a phoenix. I do think that without Kiana there, she was able to stand on her own, you know? Because I think if Kiana was there, it would have, I think she would have still said that. I think it would just have been messier because I think Kiana would have jumped in like Ashley jumps in to save Gisele. think

Kelli (08:05.625)
Yeah. Yes.

Kelli (08:13.805)
Right. Right.

Wendy (08:18.284)
you know, she would have had her back.

Wendy (08:24.11)
So then we have day two and Kiana and Angel are talking about Giselle shading Angel and Giselle walks in in the midst of it. And Kiana says like, we were just talking about you. And Giselle's like, all right, so let's talk about it. And Kiana's like, I'm gonna go to the, you know, I'll meet you at the pool. Cause she wanted Angel to do it herself, which I don't blame her, you know?

Kelli (08:49.657)
Yeah, no, I thought that was a good move on Kiana's part.

Wendy (08:52.47)
Yeah. And then Angel is actually crying. And she said to Giselle, I looked at you as a big sister, and then with these girls, I didn't expect them to be like this, especially you as a mom. didn't expect you to be coming at me. She said, I didn't realize, she said I was a red carpet host and part of my currency.

is my appearance and I felt like you did that to be mean and she did. She's 100 % right.

Kelli (09:26.597)
Absolutely. Absolutely. Giselle said I didn't want to hurt you. What did you think was gonna happen? Did you think she was gonna walk away from that conversation feeling good about herself?

Wendy (09:28.11)
100 % right.

Wendy (09:32.564)
Right. Right.

Wendy (09:40.0)
I know. And that's really what I don't like about Gisele. You know, she does apologize and you know, didn't mean to hurt you. And I remember being in your shoes. Well, if you remember being in her shoes, then why would you do it?

Kelli (09:52.036)
Absolutely. Absolutely. She doesn't explain herself well at all. She does wind up apologizing, but she doesn't explain herself well at all.

Wendy (10:08.118)
Yeah, I mean, she sidesteps it. What she says is, you know, I was asking the question because you're a beautiful woman and I wasn't seeing you, the beautiful woman I'm looking at on social media. Wait, what?

Kelli (10:19.203)
Yeah, so you're saying she looked, what you're saying when you say you were catfished, when somebody's catfished, they put a picture up of a very attractive person and then when you meet them in person, they don't look like that very attractive person. That's what catfish meant. So that's what you're insinuating, that she's not as attractive as she was in those pictures she posted on social media. I mean, whether people think that that's mean or not, that's what she did. She's not,

Wendy (10:25.377)
Right.

Wendy (10:32.47)
Right. Right.

Kelli (10:48.847)
She's not acknowledging that.

Wendy (10:51.211)
No, she's not.

Kelli (10:52.397)
I really hope Andy brings this up at the reunion and I really hope he holds her accountable because she's another one that Andy doesn't hold accountable. No, he'll move on. Yep, her, Kyle, Teresa, Tamara, they never have to explain anything.

Wendy (11:00.588)
He doesn't, he doesn't. He'll move on. Right, she'll say, I apologized. Right. I mean, Gisele said, know, again, I apologize. You know, you're looking at me sideways like, F you ho, I get it, but I am sorry. you know, Angel said, you know, thanks for apologizing. I'm glad that you came here and apologized. And Gisele said, well, can I give you a hug? And she's like, no, I'm okay right now. And she still tried to hug her, even though she said no. And again, Angel said no, like.

Kelli (11:30.757)
I mean, she did hug her the night before though. So that was a little confusing, but you know, whatever. Just a hug.

Wendy (11:33.345)
I know but, but it-

Wendy (11:38.988)
I think it goes back to the night before she was in the midst of it all and she was there on her own. Right? then you sleep. Right. Exactly. You're drinking and then you sleep on it a little bit and you wake up the next morning and you're like, wait a second. I feel a certain way about this.

Kelli (11:46.605)
Yeah, plus you had been drinking and...

Kelli (11:56.291)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (11:59.748)
Right, I don't want to just toss it to the side and move on.

Wendy (12:02.678)
Right. And you're entitled to that. Like you're entitled to feel that way and you're entitled to change your reaction. You are.

Kelli (12:09.123)
Right. And Gisele says she wasn't body shaming her, but she was. She was body shaming her. I don't care if you were just talking about her face. And I don't personally think you were just talking about her face. But you know what? She's got a hot ass husband. And he doesn't seem to mind how she looks at all. So God bless, Angel. And she has a husband.

Wendy (12:13.966)
100 % she was.

Wendy (12:25.634)
And that's what she said in her confessional. She said the exact same thing. That's right. Yeah, exactly. And she has a husband.

So then the ladies are out by the pool and Ashley says that she wants to talk to Kiana. So the two of them like go off, just the two of them to talk and.

Kelli (12:45.273)
Did you understand that though? Did you think that there was any reason for Ashley to pull Kiarna aside?

Kelli (12:53.305)
Like is Ashley just trying to have every moment?

Wendy (12:53.398)
I didn't understand it. I think that that's what it was about because like what was she upset with her? She was upset with her about

Kelli (13:04.451)
Nothing, there's nothing here between you and Kiarna. So why do you have to pull her aside for a separate conversation? Ashley's another one, not showing us a damn thing of her own life. Just messing with these women.

Wendy (13:04.552)
Angel? mean-

Wendy (13:13.974)
Yeah, I didn't understand it either.

Wendy (13:20.098)
Yeah. Well, that's it. I mean, that's so true.

Kelli (13:24.581)
Which I mean, obviously that's what Robin used to do with Giselle because we certainly weren't seeing her real life because we would have been seeing Juan swinging his dick around everywhere. I...

Wendy (13:26.623)
So true.

Wendy (13:37.166)
Well, I don't know if we could actually have seen that, but now that you've put that picture in my head, thank you.

Kelli (13:42.529)
If it's a real visual, it's a real visual. Yeah, I didn't understand Ashley pulling Kay aside because I don't... If Wendy pulled Kay aside, I could see it.

Wendy (13:44.046)
you

Wendy (13:55.446)
Yeah. Yeah, I could too. Yes. Yes, exactly.

Kelli (13:56.718)
or Jassy. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Wendy (14:02.606)
So I don't really think we got any resolution on that, but the ladies are gonna go to the Alexander Hamilton house today. They're gonna tour that. I guess Giselle set that up. Did not know that Alexander Hamilton was born in Nevis. Did you know that? I had no idea. You know what? And it's so funny, because I've seen Hamilton on Disney Plus. I didn't actually see the play.

Kelli (14:18.063)
No, me neither, no.

Wendy (14:32.589)
I they don't mention it in there. No, I don't recall it.

Kelli (14:33.637)
They don't mention that? I feel like a play about a famous person should include where they were born.

Wendy (14:43.04)
Yeah, mean, I feel like it should too. I'm gonna have to ask my Broadway specialist. I'm gonna have to ask my Broadway specialist. I'll have to ask Matty and see what he has to say. So I thought it was interesting. I thought it was interesting they got to tour that. Again, didn't also know, I really didn't know a lot. I should have known this, that he was the founder of the financial system in the United States. mean...

Kelli (14:49.797)
Is there a book? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (15:10.349)
I didn't know that either.

Wendy (15:12.31)
I mean, I feel like we should know these things since this is our damn history. But again, we haven't had history in a very long time. We're old women. And then he was 14 when his mother had died of a fever. Again, yeah. And the big horrible storm had just destroyed their...

Kelli (15:15.436)
I know.

Kelli (15:20.121)
And I did not pay attention in school, admittedly.

Wendy (15:36.514)
their island there. And so he wrote this letter that was so well written that they put it in the newspaper and then they use that letter to raise money to send him over to the United States. And now he's a founding father. Who would have known?

Kelli (15:46.447)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:52.196)
And now kids are doing crazy things to get famous on YouTube. This is where we're at people, or TikTok, right.

Wendy (15:56.288)
Yes, exactly. Or TikTok, yes, exactly. Right, right.

Kelli (16:04.237)
Nobody's writing out thoughtful, well-written articles.

Wendy (16:08.088)
Well, no, because they don't have to. have Chachi BT. Nobody needs to write anything ever again. So silly. Angel says to Jessie that I'm not an OG wag because Bobby played for 10 years. I'm an OG wag because I got to know all the other ladies that came before me. I thought it was important that she kind of clarified that because it's,

Kelli (16:10.807)
Exactly.

Exactly. my god

Kelli (16:34.542)
Well, yeah.

Wendy (16:36.918)
came across as though she was putting herself up here. And I don't think that, you know, that necessarily was the case. You think it was?

Kelli (16:49.473)
Yeah, and especially because in her confessional when she laughed when the guy asked if she considered Jassie a wag of a benchworm, you know, she didn't have a good look. So her clarifying that, I mean, it's a little bit of damage control and it's a little bit too late, but whatever.

Wendy (16:55.595)
Well...

Yeah.

Wendy (17:03.959)
Yeah.

Wendy (17:09.102)
But know, Jazzy doesn't even acknowledge that. She said, well, the energy that you gave last night was bubbly. And then when Kiarna came around this morning, the energy you gave was different. And again, I think it's because the energy she gave the night before was when they were drinking and having a good time. And like I said, she slept on it and she felt a different way about it. I don't really think that Kiarna was the factor that changed it.

Kelli (17:34.97)
Well, she, mean, Angel says, I wasn't bubbly, I was annoyed. She did not seem annoyed. I mean, maybe briefly, but then she bounced right back and she was having a good time. And then they do show her go back to the room and she's sitting on the couch with Kay and you know, it does get a little somber, but you're right. You can't put that on Kiarna. Like, Angel's, she's a grown woman. So, you know.

Wendy (17:41.058)
She did not seem annoyed.

Wendy (17:45.452)
Yes.

Wendy (17:59.285)
Right.

Wendy (18:05.966)
So then I guess they are done with their tour and they go back to where they're staying. And Wendy said, I would like to welcome you to the CGC, which stands for the Curly Girl Collective. Okay, never heard of that before. So the Curly Girl Collective is Wendy, Stacey and Jassy, because they are all staying at that same villa.

and they all have curly hair. Okay. And then Ashley has named her place that she's staying with Giselle. It is the Pussy Pink Palace. Like, wait, what? What are these women doing?

Kelli (18:48.442)
Right.

Well, she's got to, she has to, you know, reference some kind of sex thing, because that's just who Ashley is. She's, you know.

Wendy (19:03.566)
Ashley and Giselle then are continuing to tell Stacey that she's lying about Chris Samuels because they're not going to let that go.

Kelli (19:12.335)
which is so ridiculous because nobody cares and she already said she's back with her ex-husband. Whether that's true or not, we don't know, but that's what she's saying and that's what's air, like that's what she's showing at least. At least she's showing something. Those two aren't.

Wendy (19:27.138)
Right. Right.

Wendy (19:33.334)
Right. Gisele's admitting that she's realizes that she really needs to find a man that she can be serious with, that she feels comfortable with, that I guess since her father has passed, I guess he told her, you know, that she needs to find someone that will take care of her, that she, like he said, like, you know, that she can be comfortable with. Because she's not, I mean,

Kelli (19:59.088)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (20:02.85)
You know, her ex-husband was a player and the men that she's been with since then, I don't really think any of them she's been serious with.

Kelli (20:13.445)
happened with Sherman though? really did seem, cause he was on the show a couple of times, they seemed happy. I wonder what happened with Sherman.

Wendy (20:21.6)
Yeah.

Kelli (20:22.255)
Probably never know. But Wendy putting her foot down and staying on the show and conversation, that's what we needed. But Ashley saying what Gisele divulged today is a lot. She answered three questions. That's a lot? Maybe she shouldn't be on the show.

Wendy (20:31.522)
Yeah.

Wendy (20:41.176)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (20:45.954)
Well, she answered, well, that is true. She answered that she does feel comfortable with Sean. She didn't answer whether or not she's had sex with him. But then Wendy said, I'm gonna ask you one more question and then I'll know. Has he met your daughters? And she said, I'm not answering that. But then in her confessional, she said, well, he's only met Grace and.

Grace thinks that he's age appropriate, that he's checking the boxes. And just the fact that she said that she feels comfortable with him. That's really all she divulged.

Kelli (21:26.809)
Right. See, here's the thing, because I don't want to sound like a hypocrite, because I said like Jenna Lyons when she didn't share her fiance on New York, I thought that that was okay. I personally, and maybe this goes for Gisele too, but I always felt that it was okay for Jenna because she kind of came on the show with that mentality. Like that's just a part of my life I'm not going to show. However, she showed us her work. She showed us her son.

She showed us other parts of her life. Giselle and Ashley are literally not showing us anything. Ashley, maybe a little bit, you get glimpses of the kids here and there, but they're not showing us any part of their lives. They're literally just on the show to be messy and fuck with these other women.

Wendy (22:08.426)
No, they're really not.

Wendy (22:14.392)
It's true. It's really true.

Kelli (22:15.417)
Yeah, it's like, I don't understand Bravo. Like, I don't care if they've been on the show since the first season. They're not doing it. They're not doing their job. So get rid of them. Get more interesting women on the show.

Wendy (22:30.006)
Yeah, I totally agree with you.

Kelli (22:35.277)
a broken record people. Call me out on it, it's fine.

Wendy (22:37.23)
Mmm.

Giselle asked Tia if her and her husband traveled together a lot and she said no they do not. Wendy asked Tia how her and her husband met. Okay that's a good question. think you know these are you know these are good questions. She said she went to buy a leather jacket and then she heard this American voice say that looks good on you. Okay. Then Wendy asked you know if it was a big deal that she was marrying someone that was not Nigerian. Another good question.

Kelli (22:51.321)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (22:59.939)
Hehehehehe

Kelli (23:07.907)
Very good question.

Wendy (23:09.702)
And Tia said, yes, but like, I don't think she realized it. Like, I don't think she realized how it was gonna affect her until after it was done already. Because Wendy said in their culture, it's a big deal. But I think that maybe.

Kelli (23:20.633)
Yeah.

Kelli (23:24.281)
Yeah. I thought of Jennifer Aiden. I mean, Wendy also, but I thought of Jennifer Aiden too, like, because there's a lot of similarities, like not that there's necessarily arranged marriages, but you know what the expectations are. you know, I'm sure there are certain communities in different areas of America where you will find other families of that.

Wendy (23:29.32)
yeah.

Kelli (23:51.607)
ethnicity and origin.

Wendy (23:51.864)
See, I think what's different about Tia is the fact that although she was born in Nigeria, she was raised in London. So although she's got that Nigerian culture, she's also got the London culture where there wouldn't be a lot of Nigerians around her in, do you know what I'm saying? I just think it's different.

Kelli (24:00.24)
Right.

Kelli (24:07.075)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (24:12.761)
Yeah, right.

Kelli (24:17.699)
Yeah. I thought it was interesting when she was talking about how her kids speak and then they showed her daughter going brah, because all of our kids do that. And that, that wouldn't really be acceptable in London or Nigeria.

Wendy (24:25.226)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (24:31.862)
Right. And even like she said, she thought just because she's like, was naive. thought, you know, just because we're both black, didn't have cultural differences, but they totally did because he was born in like the South side of Chicago. Right. And she was raised in London, like with a driver and you know, they're totally different, totally different.

Kelli (24:42.127)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (24:48.355)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (24:54.902)
And I do think that is a little naive on her part. You know what I'm saying?

Kelli (24:59.621)
Yeah, I'm sure she met his family before they got married, right? But I mean, he seems like a very nice guy though, her husband. He seems like very respectful, very nice. And I think when she talks about our kids, I mean, that could be any one of our kids. Like kids in America, listen, I'm not strict. I should have been way more strict with my kids. I, you know, let too much go, but well not, you know, whatever.

Wendy (25:03.106)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (25:08.005)
absolutely, absolutely.

Kelli (25:27.203)
I think kids in America are definitely more lax. Some, not all.

Wendy (25:33.046)
I think, yeah, I think the majority are. I think you're right. I think it's just more relaxed. It's different than when we were raised. You would never ever call an adult by their first name.

Kelli (25:37.71)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:44.331)
No, no, no.

Wendy (25:45.762)
ever.

And, you know, when my kids told me that like, they would refer to their teachers by their first name in school, in public school, they didn't do it when they were in Catholic school, but in public school, it just kind of blew my mind. I was like, wait, what? You know, that's just, we weren't raised that way. We, and it's not like we, I mean, I raised my kids to respect adults. I mean, you know, we have a neighbor.

Kelli (26:00.688)
Right.

Kelli (26:05.273)
Yeah.

Wendy (26:18.936)
Well, we had a neighbor who moved away, but she would make sure that our children called her miss her last name. They were not allowed to address her by her first name. And, you know, I don't know. It is what it is. she sure would. She sure would. Yep.

Kelli (26:32.239)
and she would correct them.

You

Kelli (26:39.415)
I call her that when I see her. Mrs. So-and-so. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Wendy (26:41.652)
Do you? That's so funny. To make sure your kids do it. That's why you got to do it. So the ladies then they all get back on the party bus. They have to have a stripper pole on the party bus. Okay.

Kelli (27:02.742)
sure.

Wendy (27:04.942)
They're toasting to Big T energy.

Kelli (27:09.197)
I thought it was Big Dick Energy.

Wendy (27:13.174)
I thought they kept saying T. Did they say dick?

Kelli (27:17.701)
I thought they did, but maybe I just had that in my head and that's what I heard.

Wendy (27:19.649)
or maybe

Maybe they were saying Big D energy?

Kelli (27:26.02)
Maybe.

That's what I thought it was.

Wendy (27:28.846)
All right, well, they were toasting to some kind of big energy. whatever. They kind of lost me when they were on the stripper pole on the bus. Like, I just feel like these are grown women. Do we really need to be on a stripper pole? That's just me. Wendy says she's not feeling well when she's on the bus. She lets us know that I guess there was something going around her house before she even left for this little vacation.

Kelli (27:38.563)
Yes, this

Kelli (27:56.217)
Yeah.

Wendy (27:58.574)
I thought it was also a little odd that Angel's husband gave her $5,000 to go shopping, right? And they went...

Kelli (28:08.421)
It wasn't odd that he gave it to her it was odd that she made that announcement on the bus like Okay Like why don't you just take the 5,000 and and just go shopping you had to announce that

Wendy (28:13.699)
Yeah.

Wendy (28:21.152)
Yeah, I thought that was weird. the fact that they were going to like an artisan's village and like Wendy said, when they got there, it was kind of like a flea. It literally was kind of like a flea market. Like where are you spending?

Kelli (28:27.685)
You

Kelli (28:32.741)
She's gonna get a lot. She probably could have bought one of those huts for $5,000 and started running it herself.

Wendy (28:37.23)
She wouldn't be able to take it home.

Kelli (28:47.193)
Hmm.

Wendy (28:49.206)
And how did it come up that Stacey said, wonder what would happen if I texted Timo sex? Like, how did that even come up?

Kelli (28:56.997)
don't know what they were talking about before that.

Wendy (29:00.087)
I don't remember either.

Kelli (29:02.519)
I don't know, I'm sure Ashley had something to do with it.

Wendy (29:05.962)
Yeah, so she did. texted him and he responded, she texted him sex and he responded with who? And then she texted him back a picture with me and he texted back, think you have the wrong number.

Kelli (29:25.101)
I mean she said he has a different sense of humor, but I don't know like I Think that there are a lot of funny guys out there, but if their current partner Sent them that text. I think I feel like they'd be like alright like you know call me later

Wendy (29:40.856)
but he knows she's in Nevis, so it's like, you know what I mean? He knows she's away in Nevis, it's like.

Kelli (29:44.195)
Yeah.

Yeah.

I know she could call him later though. I don't know, was a little odd. But she said he has a weird personality and he's German. you know, it's... Yeah.

Wendy (29:52.906)
I, it, yeah, yeah.

Wendy (30:01.72)
So then the ladies are all going to learn how to play the steel drum, but in the meantime, Wendy's gonna go back to the bus and lay down, because she's not feeling well. But Wendy realizes that they're learning to do the steel drum, and she gets up off the bus to go hit the steel drum for a little bit. Okay.

Kelli (30:22.095)
I mean, if you thought you were getting the flu, would you want to go near a drum?

Wendy (30:27.019)
No, no, and touch something that all the, no, no, no, I would not.

Kelli (30:31.845)
Just the noise alone. Like I would have stayed on the bus, Wendy, but you know, maybe she had a little bit of FOMO.

Wendy (30:39.786)
Yeah, maybe. Yep. So then they all get back to the place and Wendy's laying down. They bring a little water and Gatorade. They're going out to dinner at the Sunshine Cafe. So that's where the sunshine and Mr. Sunshine is the owner of the cafe. Talk about a coincidence.

Kelli (30:41.455)
She's a trooper.

Kelli (30:58.308)
Yeah.

Yeah, and they bring he brings them a killer B shot. We're look look that up because they were drinking them the other night, right?

Wendy (31:06.646)
We do have to. Yes. Yes.

Kelli (31:11.333)
Killer B Shop.

Wendy (31:14.542)
Kelli (31:15.461)
Did you see Kiarno when she took the shot?

Wendy (31:19.21)
No, why? Should she make a weird face?

Kelli (31:20.001)
At one point, yeah, like she looked like she was gonna, like she looked like she got real woozy.

Wendy (31:27.863)
Kelli (31:28.651)
Yeah, at some point, I think it was when she took the shot. She was like, she had a look on her face, like she thought she was gonna pass out. But nobody said anything and she didn't say anything, but it was on camera.

Wendy (31:46.276)
so what happens next?

Kelli (31:48.975)
Well, Angel asked if she was going to be on the menu again.

Wendy (31:52.334)
yes, yes she did.

Kelli (32:00.268)
and Giselle decides to tell Kiana that even though Wendy's not here, I'm going to speak for her. And she was offended that you didn't stay for her birthday.

Wendy (32:11.5)
I don't think so. No. I don't think Wendy gives a shit.

Kelli (32:11.619)
Was Wendy offended that Kiorna didn't stay for her birth?

Wendy (32:18.956)
I don't think she gives a shit.

Kelli (32:20.139)
I mean, even if she said it, again, who cares? Like, that's what you're gonna try to bring up to start something? Come on, Giselle, you could do better than that.

Wendy (32:29.227)
Right, right.

Wendy (32:37.112)
So yeah, Kiana then said, I get that Wendy is hurt and thank you for telling me that she's hurt, but I didn't know. Okay, so. And then I guess Tia was on Watch What Happens Live, but I didn't watch it and so was Karamo. Did you watch it or no?

Kelli (32:56.237)
I watched it a little bit, before that, did you see? So Jassy asks Kiana if she's jealous of her. And okay, so this is what I wanted to ask you. So Jassy asks Kay if she's jealous, right? And Kay says, Jassy called her a snake. Jaclyn told her. Who is Jaclyn? Who is Jaclyn on Potomac?

Wendy (33:18.734)
Oh, is friend. Me is friend.

Kelli (33:25.615)
me as friend Jacqueline. Thank you. I'm like, who the fuck is Jacqueline? Okay.

Wendy (33:27.778)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (33:31.776)
I missed that whole, I didn't write that down. I missed that whole thing. So Jacqueline told Jassy that Kiorna was a snake or vice versa.

Kelli (33:34.977)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (33:46.725)
Kay said that Jaclyn told her that Jassy called her a sneak, that Jassy called Kay a sneak.

Wendy (33:54.594)
Okay.

Kelli (33:57.09)
I forgot who the hell Jaclyn was.

Wendy (33:58.83)
Jacqueline was. Yeah, Jacqueline was me as friend.

Kelli (34:03.351)
Right. So I watched a little bit of Tia and Karamo. I'm not a big Karamo fan though.

Wendy (34:11.746)
You've said that before. Did he do something? Or you just...

Kelli (34:17.105)
He, well, I guess he's on Queer Eye for the straight guy. Okay, and that came back. But between the original and the reboot, I believe he was on the E Channel. And there was a host, I forget her name, I always forget her name, but she was on the E Channel probably since the inception of it, Kat, Kat Sabler. And they were doing a show together and he was so incredibly rude to her.

Wendy (34:21.654)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (34:38.84)
Okay.

Kelli (34:46.941)
so incredibly rude to her and then she was off the show and he got the show and after that I just I just had a bad taste in my mouth about him.

Wendy (34:50.926)
Wendy (34:57.184)
All right. I get that.

Kelli (34:58.839)
Yeah, so I'm not a big fan of his but I do really like Tia. I think she's a good addition.

Wendy (35:06.444)
I do too.

I'm looking up what's in a killer bee drink. Okay, so a killer bee can be a Caribbean rum punch or a smoky mezcal cocktail depending on the recipe. The rum versions typically include gold rum, passion fruit juice, orange juice, lime juice, honey and black pepper. Wow. While the mezcal version is a simple mix of mezcal, lemon juice and honey syrup. Both are sweet and fruity.

but the rum version often has a spicy kick from the black pepper and the mezcal's version has a smoky depth. Okay.

Kelli (35:46.553)
I think they both sound delicious. don't really like rum, so I would probably go with the Mezcal.

Wendy (35:54.102)
And I actually do like rum. think I, don't know about the pepper though. The black pepper. You do, huh?

Kelli (35:59.096)
Yeah, I think I would like that.

I like it in a Bloody Mary, but yeah, I don't know if I would like it in a sweet drink.

Wendy (36:09.334)
And maybe that's why she was making that face. Maybe it was that black pepper. Like, because if you don't expect it.

Kelli (36:12.599)
Yeah. And I think she made a comment like, right. I think she made a comment like, I don't, you know, I can't have another one of those or something like that. I think it had something to do with the shot.

Wendy (36:24.876)
Yeah, yeah. All right, so now we've learned about that. I don't have anything else for Potomac, do you?

Kelli (36:27.503)
Yeah.

Kelli (36:33.803)
No? No. Anything else in the Bravo universe? Well, before we came on, we were talking about you had seen a blind item that Teresa and Joe and Melissa actually did have their sit down yesterday, we think.

Wendy (36:35.82)
Okay. Any other?

Any other Bravo news?

Wendy (36:48.031)
Yes, I did see a blind item and that cameras were not there. So we'll have to wait and see if it really did happen or what the results are. If we do find out, I mean, I would imagine that Joe cannot keep his mouth shut. So Joe will spill the beans. Whether he's supposed to or not, Joe will the beans.

Kelli (37:06.341)
you

Yeah, I just, you know, I hope they're not like waiting to see what the outcome is before they make decisions about the show. But you know, I'm, I have very strong feelings and don't want Teresa back, obviously. So I would like the cast to stay the same without Teresa and Jennifer Aiden and just see what happens.

Wendy (37:30.752)
and without Jackie Colt Schneider.

Kelli (37:32.971)
God, definitely without Jackie Goldsider. Bring back Jen Fessler, Rachel, Danielle, Melissa, Margaret. Just let them have fun for crying out loud.

Wendy (37:39.16)
Yeah.

Wendy (37:49.036)
Yeah, we'll have to wait and see. It's another couple weeks. It's only two weeks, less than two weeks away, right? Is BravoCon?

Kelli (37:55.992)
Yeah, my god, we're in November already. Wow.

Wendy (37:58.932)
I know, know, it's crazy. We're gonna blink and it's gonna be Thanksgiving.

Kelli (38:03.399)
it's definitely going to be Thanksgiving in a blink.

Wendy (38:06.124)
I'm already stressing about it because we're hosting it again. know, so my mother said to me the other day, she's like, what's your favorite holiday? Because she was putting away all her Halloween stuff. I was like, you know what, I don't even know. I'll be honest with you, my favorite holiday used to be Thanksgiving. That was always my favorite holiday until we started hosting it. I'm sorry, but I don't like being a hostess. I just don't like it. I don't like it. I'm not good at it. It's too much work.

Kelli (38:21.411)
Yeah.

Kelli (38:24.997)
Yeah.

Kelli (38:28.643)
It's very stressful.

Wendy (38:33.035)
I don't care about the food. I'm not a good hostess. I'm not a good hostess. My husband, on the other hand, is a very good host. He wants to feed everybody everything, but then he wants me to be his assistant and to be there. And I don't like to be an assistant. I just don't. I don't like doing it. don't like getting him the stuff he needs. I don't like cleaning. I don't like it.

Kelli (38:43.075)
Yes, yes.

Kelli (38:58.181)
It's just a lot of work. It's just a lot of work. And especially Thanksgiving. Like I don't host Thanksgiving because I feel like it should be a sit down dinner and I just don't have the room for everybody to sit down. I mean, obviously if I move my living room furniture, I could put a table in there, but you know, Easter to me is just so much better because we set everything up outside.

Wendy (39:01.356)
It's a lot of work.

Wendy (39:19.628)
Yeah, I mean, we have the room to do a sit down dinner. I mean, we do a buffet, but it's still every, there's plenty of places for everyone to sit down at the table. And we have a dining room table, we have the kitchen table and we can get everyone in there. But I still, just, don't, I like, it's a lot of work.

Kelli (39:23.204)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:28.035)
Bye. Bye.

Kelli (39:36.685)
It's just a lot of work and I have that sickness where I never think I'm going to have enough food and it's crippling. Yeah.

Wendy (39:42.19)
Well, Bill has that sickness too. Bill has that sickness too, where he likes to make two turkeys. likes to make one. And then because we're Italian, he's got to make the Italian food too. So we have to have meatballs and we have to have sausage and we have to have pasta. And yes, then we have to the salad and then we have to have the appetizers and then we have to have the desserts. And it's like, I don't like it. just don't like

Kelli (39:50.924)
yeah, you have to have a macaroni.

Kelli (40:01.849)
Do people bring things? So in my family, typically when you host, you do the meal. Everybody else brings the appetizers and desserts, and that's very helpful. I'll always have some appetizers just because I want, because my family, between my mother and Terry, if I tell my mother to be here at one, she'll call me at three and ask me if I need anything. So if my mother's bringing an appetizer, I'm gonna put some out.

It's very helpful when you only have to focus on the meal and everybody else brings the, you know, ad.

Wendy (40:31.553)
Yeah.

Wendy (40:38.094)
would say that would be helpful, no. mean, my sister-in-law will probably bring like a vegetable and a dessert, which is that, that's good. My other sister-in-law will maybe bring a vegetable or something. But again, my husband wants...

Kelli (40:51.877)
Yeah, that's helpful.

Wendy (41:05.166)
two turkeys and he wants the meatballs and the sausage and the pasta and the sauce and the bread and then the homemade stuffing and then the mashed potatoes and then the string bean casserole. It's like, and then the salad and then the, know, like it's just a lot. It's just a lot. It's a lot. And a lot of pies. He likes pies. gives you pie, an apple pie, a blueberry pie, a pumpkin pie, a pecan pie. I mean.

Kelli (41:06.563)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Kelli (41:23.779)
It's a lie.

Wendy (41:35.502)
He's not met a pie he doesn't like. You like pecan pie? I don't like any pies. I could do without a pie.

Kelli (41:35.878)
I do love pecan pie. I do.

Kelli (41:45.797)
Tess just said she's gonna make a pumpkin cheesecake for Thanksgiving, so I'm super excited about that.

Wendy (41:50.946)
Well, that sounds good.

Kelli (41:52.427)
Yeah.

Wendy (41:55.086)
Alright, so that's it for now. So until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please give us five star reviews and subscribe. Bye.

Kelli (42:04.195)
Bye.