RHOP-Reunion Part 2: Chaos in Couture

Wendy (00:01.038)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.483)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:06.498)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Potomac Reunion Part Two. We start off where we left off with Ashley talking to Wendy about her having only one social security number. And Wendy said, well, I do too. And then they're going back and forth. And Wendy said, and what document does it say I have others? And Ashley's going six, seven.

And Wendy's like, never said that. I'm like, you guys, you gotta be kidding me with this back and forth.

Kelli (00:40.185)
It's so funny because, and the article didn't say that. It said 67 credit cards. It said nothing about social security numbers. you know, Ashley's not the smartest. So you take that with a grain of salt.

Wendy (00:46.816)
Yes. Right. Right.

Right.

Right. And then Andy says, I assume you're not accepting Ashley's apology. And Wendy's like, well, it's not like it's not that I'm not accepting it. It's that I feel like she's full of shit. Like she didn't really mean it.

Kelli (01:05.488)
Yeah, and she is full of shit and that wasn't an apology.

Wendy (01:10.646)
Right, right. So at this point, then the two of them are just yelling back and forth at each other, which again, I cannot stand when this happens because you can't hear what they're saying. It's just like it's out of control. And I feel like honestly, Andy should be able to control that. And if he can't, then don't air it. Don't air that part of it. There's gotta be something in that 10 hours.

Kelli (01:31.025)
So don't you feel, I feel like this whole episode was a filler episode and we didn't need it. Because quite honestly, I feel like that's all it was. Whether it was Wendy and Ashley, Angel and whomever, Kay and Jassy, they're all just yelling at each other and then basically Andy's like, okay, well, we're not gonna get this resolved so let's move on.

Wendy (01:39.862)
I agree.

Wendy (01:56.344)
Let's move on. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (02:00.054)
What are we doing here? I felt like the whole episode was like that. Yeah.

Wendy (02:02.348)
I know, I I felt the same way. I did too, and honestly, a bunch of the stuff that was brought up in the episodes, I totally even forgot about it, it was such a non-issue.

Kelli (02:13.752)
Exactly.

Wendy (02:15.116)
Like I'll get to them when we get to them, but I'm like, I forgot about that. And why are we even talking about it? Like, who cares?

Kelli (02:21.583)
Right, and Jassy, should not have even, I mean, okay, bring her out, but they shouldn't have aired any of her parts. She made no sense. She was clearly just trying to have moments every time she started something on the show. She's a non-factor, we're done. I liked her last season as a friend of, but she was doing too much this, she was trying to do too much, nothing landed.

Wendy (02:32.641)
No.

Wendy (02:49.74)
Right, right. So Ashley's response about the messiness is she's saying that the group now reacts differently than in the years past when it was Giselle and Karen and her, and things would roll off their backs. Like they wouldn't just take it so seriously. And they do show a bunch of clips where Karen and Ashley would go at each other, and Giselle and Karen, like they all have gone at each other hard.

She's absolutely right. wouldn't land the same way it does with these women. It really wouldn't. But they had a relationship. Like they knew each other. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't like, know, with Angel, this is her first season and you're coming at her like this. Like you already knew Karen. Like you started with, you know, Karen and Giselle. You didn't do this on your first season. mean, Karen, you they did come hard for Ashley her first season, but...

Kelli (03:42.737)
They sure did.

Wendy (03:45.142)
I don't know, it was uncalled for.

Kelli (03:48.709)
The thing is, that, maybe there's something to what they're saying. First of all, I don't understand why Ashley's getting all the slack for being messy. Giselle is just as bad. Why is she not being called out on it? I've seen plenty on social media what people call on Giselle a mean girl and saying how horrible she was this season. Why is he not questioning her? I don't understand it. But maybe there is something to what they're saying to Angel, like you need thicker skin because

Wendy, Wendy got the heat from them, she withstood it. Monique got the heat from them, she withstood it. Maybe Angel does, Stacy, Stacy, mean my god, I mean, she really is. Like for sure. So maybe Angel does. Even Kiana's kinda holding her own with them.

Wendy (04:31.982)
She's like Teflon.

Kelli (04:47.035)
with the whole Greg thing. I don't know.

Wendy (04:50.006)
Yeah, I don't know. So then Andy moves on to Ashley finally getting a divorce. And if you were asked, Ashley, if she actually got 20 million from Michael Darby, and I'm glad she did not say, like she does not need to be giving that information out. I will say I was very surprised when they asked where her and Josh were. And she said, yeah, I still see him. I'm like, you have got to be kidding me.

Kelli (05:06.001)
Smart move.

Kelli (05:19.985)
That whole breakup was fake AF It was fake AF because I'm sorry, but she probably did get 20 million. I hope she did get 20 million She doesn't need to be a sugar baby anymore She doesn't I mean maybe she's I do think that she's just naturally attracted to older men, but I'm obviously Probably because of the you know lack of a father

Wendy (05:20.322)
You've gotta be kidding me.

Wendy (05:24.821)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (05:36.055)
what she wants to be.

Kelli (05:49.529)
in her life, she doesn't need that anymore. that break up with Josh was phony, phony, phony baloney.

Wendy (06:00.77)
Yeah, it was. And like what Stacey says, you humiliated him on camera.

Kelli (06:05.909)
She absolutely did. I mean, I guess he just chose to go along with it, but she basically told him he doesn't have enough money for her.

That's so emasculating.

Wendy (06:15.928)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (06:21.4)
So then the next thing he brings up is the fans felt that it was inappropriate for your smooch with Cherise's son Jackson. And Ashley said, well, when I told Cherise she was fine with it, actually after I watched it and after she went on to say that Cherise had called her her daughter-in-law, I'm actually believing Ashley now. And because I thought for sure, like,

Cherise didn't just react because it was on camera and she was surprised but then I watched it again and you know she didn't seem that upset and if she's calling her daughter-in-law

Kelli (06:59.029)
No. Yeah, I still stand by, I think it's icky. There's a huge ick factor. And again, any of my friends out there, if you ever look at my son like that, we're done. But it was very interesting to hear that Charisse would call her her daughter-in-law and kind of push that romance.

Wendy (07:05.848)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:15.704)
Right. Right.

Kelli (07:27.247)
So again, listen, Sharice wants to be on that show. She wants back on that show. She's going to play nice with whoever she has to. So maybe she, you know, she was obviously playing nice with Ashley and Giselle to maybe get her spot back. And then maybe she saw this as an opportunity to go another route. well, maybe if I turn it around and trash Ashley,

Wendy (07:27.809)
It is weird.

Kelli (07:56.461)
on a podcast, maybe I'll get my spot back, because then there'll be beef between us, you know?

Wendy (08:02.722)
Yeah, I mean it's definitely possible.

Kelli (08:03.525)
She probably doesn't care.

Wendy (08:06.83)
Probably doesn't. Not based on her actions. It doesn't seem like she does.

Kelli (08:10.757)
Mm-hmm. Right.

Wendy (08:16.11)
And then Angel jumps in, which I thought that this... Why didn't you give her a heads up before you made that your storyline to Charisse? Well, first of all, Angel, seriously? This is where you're gonna jump in? I mean, come on.

Kelli (08:30.373)
think she just wanted it to be put out there that this was a storyline for Ashley.

Wendy (08:36.684)
Yeah, we knew that. Thanks, Angel. Right, maybe you'll be on solid ground before you start sticking your neck out there.

Kelli (08:40.399)
Yep. Thanks, Captain Obvious.

Kelli (08:48.369)
Yeah, settled down.

Wendy (08:53.422)
Then Andy, he pivots to, it was really sweet seeing your sister Jessica and how is she doing? She's she's doing really well in school. And he said, and you're stepdad? And she's like, no, I don't like. And she's never referred to him as her stepdad, ever, never.

Kelli (09:11.769)
No, I mean, I don't even know if her mom is married to this guy. I don't think they are. Yes, it's a partner. That's always been the word she used, Yeah.

Wendy (09:16.374)
I don't think, she's always said my mom's partner.

Wendy (09:22.946)
Yep, partner. And he said, you know, he did rehab and she said, yeah. And he's like, well, did it take? She's like, it's not my business. And it's not her business. It absolutely is not.

Kelli (09:34.874)
I think she got some flack for putting this out there on the show. But listen, I respect the fact that she said it's not my story to tell on the reunion. I'm glad that she shared something about her life though, her real life on the show. And I hope the guy gets the help he needs, obviously. But I thought she handled this part very well.

Wendy (09:48.728)
Right.

Wendy (10:01.26)
Yeah, and honestly, I mean, this was the first year we've met Jessica, right? We never, I didn't even know she had a younger sister. So.

Kelli (10:06.447)
Yeah? No?

Kelli (10:10.761)
I think we only saw her brother, who I think is also from both of her parents. Like I think they're full siblings, she and her brother. And then this younger sister obviously is her mom and this other gentleman's. I mean, she looks just like her mom. The sister looks just like her mom.

Wendy (10:24.62)
Right, exactly like her mom, she really does. Yes, she does. And then Andy asked about how Sheila's health is her mom and she's like, well, it could be better, which that's not too good.

Kelli (10:38.991)
Yeah, but you know, if her partner has been struggling with substance abuse, you know, that ages you and yeah.

Wendy (10:48.574)
definitely.

Yeah, absolutely. And then Andy brought up about how Ashley felt with Giselle stunting her flirting with Moe. And she said, actually everyone jumped in at that point. Tia jumped in, everyone jumped in at that point. But basically Ashley's like, listen, my girl Stacey here, she was in there doing this for me because she knows I'm single.

Kelli (11:11.759)
Yeah, there was a lot going on.

Wendy (11:21.838)
And she was there for it. And I said that to you. I felt like her and Stacey really bonded at that moment. And I think that they did, even though Stacey does come in her a little while later.

Kelli (11:33.266)
Yeah, but why was Gisele like Stacey was doing that for her? Like, was she trying to make it seem like Stacey was like interested in Mo? I didn't get that vibe at all. I mean, I'm sure she thinks he's good looking. He is good looking, but I didn't get the vibe that Stacey was, you know, trying to do something there for herself. Like, I feel like she was total wingman for Ashley.

Wendy (11:36.898)
Because that's just Giselle being messy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she was.

I didn't either. It was just her being messy.

Wendy (11:57.642)
I didn't either. I did not either.

I did too. Then Andy said to Ashley, heard you were dating a politician. And Stacey said, well, that's not possible. And she's like, well, I'm a beautiful woman. She's like, because of your track record, Kissing Cherise's son. And she's like, I am an upstanding woman with a capital U. I was like, capital U, really? Like, that's what, I mean, what?

Kelli (12:19.441)
Your pet.

Kelli (12:28.461)
Yeah, that was corny. That was real corny.

Wendy (12:32.758)
I think, I honestly think because then when Giselle said, I thought you were talking about me because I was dating a congressman. I think Ashley was actually covering for Giselle to be quite honest with you. I don't think she was dating a politician.

Kelli (12:45.509)
I think you're right because Andy's like, when we stopped filming? And she was like, yeah, yeah, when you stopped filming. Bullshit, Giselle, you have a whole real life going on that you are not showing on this show. You are so uninteresting on this show because all you do is come at the younger, prettier, richer women.

Show us, I mean, all right, if your congressman boyfriend doesn't wanna be on camera, I understand that. But give us something. You're giving us nothing. Except bitterness.

Wendy (13:19.63)
Yeah, right, right. I really think, I really think that when Andy said that Ashley knew that it was Giselle and she figured, okay, I'll just, if they think it's me, I'll just take the heat for it. You know I mean? Because I was like, no, what are the chances that they're both? Right, right.

Kelli (13:35.727)
Yep, I think you're right. I think you're absolutely right.

What, both of them are dating politicians? Right. I mean, listen, they are in Potomac or the outskirts thereof. They are close to Washington DC. I'm sure there are plenty of politicians to take your pick at, whether they're married or not. So, you imagine dating a politician?

Wendy (13:50.039)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:01.536)
No. No, I can't. I really can't. I can't.

Kelli (14:04.065)
Ugh, either side. Ugh.

Wendy (14:07.118)
No, no, no, who wants that in bed? No! No, thank you. Thank you.

Kelli (14:10.413)
Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Nope. Nope.

Kelli (14:17.487)
now.

Wendy (14:21.614)
So then a viewer from Jacksonville, Florida asks Ashley what's in the next chapter of her life post divorce and she actually pulls out her children's book that she's writing that she has the cover for.

It's called The Wonder Club. And it's about her two sons. And she shows us a cover and about the adventures that these characters go on. Okay. I mean, good for her. Good for her.

Kelli (14:53.009)
So they asked what the young girl's name is in the picture and she says Anita. Isn't that her mom's name?

Wendy (14:58.958)
No, her mom's name is Sheila.

Kelli (15:03.059)
Sheila. Okay. Okay. But that was funny because who said it for, Monique was like, thought whatever her daughter's name is, I forget. It's a pretty name. just forget what it is. Cam Cam. That was funny.

Wendy (15:06.264)
Yeah.

Wendy (15:12.802)
And then Wendy said, thought, Cam. Yeah.

Wendy (15:19.79)
Then he goes on to Kay this season, got to know more about you, your person and your man. And Kay said, well the ring is coming and then she goes to do this whole pull out from behind her back thing. Just to see the picture frame we already saw. It's just so bad, it's just so bad.

Kelli (15:33.689)
Ugh.

It's too much.

Kelli (15:44.858)
Yeah.

Wendy (15:49.076)
Then again, was like this other, a viewer asked Wendy why she didn't just concede to Kay and show up for her as a friend. I totally even forgot that those two were going at each other in the very beginning. I totally forgot about that.

Kelli (16:01.349)
Because it was so stupid. It was so ridiculous. Like you didn't wave to me while you were up on stage. And then the whole thing with the pictures, like there's a picture of Wendy hugging her and then she's like, but this is the room. Like, what are you trying to prove? that, I, it was so, yeah, like it was so, like it was confusing, but just as confusing, it was uninteresting. It was, it was boring.

Wendy (16:04.173)
Right.

Wendy (16:16.14)
Right! Right. Should I knock you?

Wendy (16:28.406)
Exactly, and like, we to- Yeah, like we didn't need to have this whole conversation. We don't even care! Nobody cares!

Kelli (16:34.777)
Nobody cares. Nobody cares.

Wendy (16:38.35)
and then Kay said, someone asked to Kay if you can clearly explain your issue with Stacey. And she's like, well, because why was she acting like I was so aggressive towards her? And I'm like, what? I don't even know what they were talking about at that point.

Kelli (16:59.247)
Yeah, because this was at what Giselle's? Was this at Giselle's? Was this Giselle's party where her co-host didn't show up? Right? Aren't we going all the way back here when Cookie came in? Jacked up Cookie? I think so, cause that's when Kay said, I would never let you around my husband. And Stacey said, you don't have one. Listen, I'm just going to say it. Kay was a little aggressive in that moment.

Wendy (17:13.302)
Is that what we're talking about? I don't even remember.

Wendy (17:22.67)
I have one. Okay. That's, yeah.

Kelli (17:28.057)
She was a little aggressive.

Wendy (17:30.348)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (17:31.983)
I mean, I could be aggressive too, you know, it is what it is. You have to acknowledge when you're behaving that way and you behave that way in that moment. Nobody else was getting all riled up like that.

Wendy (17:51.254)
and then Andy says, this is the other thing, Andy says to Stacey, well what about you ordering cheese in front of her when she's lactose intolerant? I was like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?

Kelli (18:03.673)
I'm sorry, but if the girl wants to eat burrata, let the girl eat burrata. mean, Kay can order her own damn appetizer. That was ridiculous. She's like, yes, she was trying to kill me. I don't think cheese, I mean, you know what? I shouldn't say it. Cause if you might have an anaphylactic dairy allergy, so I'm not going to say it, but I think for Kay, it's probably more of a lactose intolerance.

Wendy (18:14.744)
I love

Wendy (18:23.499)
It could, it's possible, who knows?

Kelli (18:33.041)
problem like I have.

Wendy (18:34.84)
Like a GI issue.

Kelli (18:36.46)
Yes, it's a GI issue.

Wendy (18:38.956)
Yeah. I don't even know why, again, like you said in the very beginning, this whole, this whole episode was a big waste of time. So then, then Jassy comes out in her white and red Nigerian corset dress.

Kelli (18:43.483)
Yeah, why are we talking about burrata?

Kelli (18:49.019)
yeah, it really was.

Kelli (18:56.581)
Three people carrying your dress. It's too much.

Wendy (19:01.454)
It's too much. It's too much. It's too much.

Kelli (19:02.927)
Yeah. You need three people to help you on stage. It's too much. You're not, you're not, you're a friend of.

Wendy (19:12.92)
Yeah. And they just...

Kelli (19:14.223)
You could have shown up in a tracksuit. Nobody was paying attention.

Wendy (19:18.126)
That's so true. just celebrated their six month anniversary from being married. And we find out that Darius is now playing for the Patriots who just won the Super Bowl. I happened to be sitting next to Andrew at the time and I was like, do you know him? He goes, no, I don't know him. We had to look up his first and last name and he looked him up. He's like, he didn't even play. He had like, he had, he hadn't, he contributed nothing.

Kelli (19:44.581)
Right. Did they win or did the Seahawks win? The Patriots won?

Wendy (19:46.776)
Day one.

yeah, no, the Patriots didn't win. No, the Seahawks won. But he was at the Super Bowl. No, no, no, you're right. Yeah, yes.

Kelli (19:51.758)
Okay, I'm like, wait a minute. Yeah, yeah, no, they went, but they went, they went and they, know, out of nowhere, this team came out of nowhere. But anyway, yeah.

Wendy (20:01.462)
Right. Yes, I'm sorry. I just gave out bad information. Yes, you're right. It was definitely the Seahawks that won. But the fact that they were even at the Super Bowl.

Kelli (20:06.5)
No, that's-

But they, yes, exactly. But yeah, no, he's not, mean, don't, I mean, listen, you're playing for the NFL. You deserve all of the praise. But he didn't play.

Wendy (20:26.862)
Right. Yeah.

Kelli (20:27.939)
Right. Which was, I think, was brought up during the season. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. whatever.

Wendy (20:32.363)
was brought up earlier.

Yeah, think, yeah. So then.

Jessie starts going after Kay about Greg, about how she stole Greg from his wife and you're raising his children as your own.

Kelli (20:55.493)
mean, Jazzy, I mean, didn't we go through this with you? I mean, your husband had a baby on you. Your words, not mine.

Wendy (20:57.518)
Where did-

Yes!

Wendy (21:09.666)
Yeah.

Kelli (21:09.743)
Like you were with him and he impregnated somebody else and also had another child prior to even getting with you. I don't know if it's the same mom or not, but those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

Wendy (21:29.76)
And so when this comes out, Giselle's like, time out, time out. And Wendy's like, no, no, time in. And Andy's like, OK, moving on.

Kelli (21:38.661)
Right. That's what I mean. Absolutely. Absolutely. We need to hear from Greg's wife. Call us.

Wendy (21:39.938)
I mean, that's the story I wanted to hear. That's actually, that's the only story I wanted to hear.

Wendy (21:48.334)
Ugh, yes, let us know because ex-wife, right? Or, yeah. Yeah, so that was a...

Kelli (21:59.738)
or maybe that's why they're not engaged yet, maybe he is still married. Not living with her, obviously, but for financial, legal, whatever reasons.

Wendy (22:03.368)
Maybe. Right.

Wendy (22:11.342)
Yeah, I don't know. Like, that's the story I want to hear, though. That's definitely the story I want to hear. And then he brings up Tia's first season, and we get to see clips of her throughout the season. And a viewer brings up her husband, how we didn't really get to see her husband that much. And she mentions that, you know, he's a corporate man. Like, this really isn't his thing. And obviously, he was not happy with her calling him the nanny.

I don't blame him.

Kelli (22:42.705)
I don't think any of our husbands would be very happy with

Wendy (22:45.794)
No, but I did, you know, I did get, I liked seeing her half sister and hearing about that whole journey with her, you her father passing, like that was a real story. Like that was something real that she showed us. I mean, and I enjoyed that. I enjoyed all that. And that's when Giselle talked about how, you know, about, you know, seeing her go to her father's house and everything that had happened with her father. And, you know, she was actually on the verge of crying and.

Kelli (22:56.143)
Yes. Yes. Yes.

Wendy (23:12.384)
He's like, my god, I've never seen her cry. And Gisele's like, I'm not going to. And Andy's like, nope, she's not going to. 10 years. And I'm like, Gisele, just cry. Just let it, just cry. Be real. You know, just be real. Just be real.

Kelli (23:16.069)
You're not going to, yeah. He said I've been waiting 10 years.

Kelli (23:26.673)
She can't, she cannot do it.

Wendy (23:31.534)
Andy asks her how things went with her father's will and that's when we find out that the judge ruled in the wife's favor. She said it wasn't about the money. I still think it was about the money.

Kelli (23:47.056)
It was definitely about the money. But how about that picture of him at Martin Luther King Jr.? Like her father really was big time. He was big time. I did not realize that. He was big time. I do think it's about memorabilia as well, but it was certainly about the money. Let's not kid ourselves.

Wendy (23:52.681)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:56.958)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, I yeah. Yeah

Wendy (24:05.815)
I do too.

Wendy (24:10.926)
Yeah, I mean, like she had said from the very beginning, her father was about generational wealth and his grandkids.

Kelli (24:17.251)
Yeah. And listen, I say that in full support of her deserving what she thinks she deserves.

Wendy (24:25.581)
Yeah.

Right, right, yeah. And we're not fans of Gisele, but we still think that she was wronged in this situation. Even though we only have her side of it, we're still taking it. Which is fine.

Kelli (24:29.571)
and her girls.

No. Yeah. Yeah, I do. do.

Kelli (24:40.761)
Yeah, think she got screwed and I think that judge should, you I don't know. Maybe she can appeal. I'm not a fan, but I do think that she deserves her part of her father's estate. That's crazy.

Wendy (24:55.49)
Yeah, I do too, I do too. Especially considering it was changed after he had the aneurysm. yeah, yeah. Crazy. So then Tia, we want to talk about you and Jassy. You were upset with Tia for Tia saying that the restaurant owner called you beautiful. You thought that that was disrespectful to your relationship.

Kelli (25:04.273)
Brain surgery. Brain, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (25:09.669)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (25:21.858)
which again, even when that happened, I thought it was stupid, but now we have to bring it up again.

Kelli (25:24.561)
It's so stupid. Not that that ever does happen to me, but if I was out with someone and we left and they were like, that guy was checking you out, I'd be like, great.

Wendy (25:38.592)
No, it does happen. you know, you know where it happens. You know where it happens. It happens every time we go to a certain place. You know.

Kelli (25:39.119)
Let me clearly remember.

Kelli (25:47.19)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:54.61)
Well, let me remember what I'm wearing so I can wear it again.

Wendy (25:56.718)
There's a cert-

There's a certain place we go and there's a certain waiter that pays extra attention. Yep. And we all catch you.

Kelli (26:05.201)
Oh yeah, does happen. I know. We always lock eyes.

Kelli (26:14.363)
Yeah, you do always catch me dammit.

Wendy (26:18.424)
But it's okay, it's okay. It's not disrespectful to your marriage.

Kelli (26:18.513)
It's It is not disrespectful to my marriage. I mean that that is so Crazy how jesse responded but again, she was just trying to have a moment and tia totally called her out on

Wendy (26:34.146)
Yeah, yeah. And then Stacey brings up that the relationship changed with the recording of the phone call. And it turns out that it didn't only happen to Stacey. So I think Jassy is way messier than anybody knows. us as the viewer.

Kelli (26:53.775)
No, I agree because who said, so Tia, Stacey and Kay all said it happened to them. no, Wendy, that's right. Wendy, Stacey and Kay, right? So, Kay and Wendy aren't in a good place. So the fact that both of them said it, and I think somebody asked Angel too, and she said,

Wendy (27:01.59)
Wendy and Wendy. No, Kay did also. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (27:20.812)
Yes, Angel Sugar had

Kelli (27:23.481)
Yeah, that's a lot of people. Seven people are sitting there and four people said you did it.

Wendy (27:30.732)
Right. So again, that's something else I would have liked to know about, but we don't know anything about that either.

Kelli (27:36.729)
Right, totally glazed over that.

Wendy (27:40.12)
Yep. Then Monique comes out. I called it a triangle dress, but they found out it's an upside down pyramid. And the reason it's an upside down pyramid is because that's when she went to Egypt, that's when she was, that's when she was like saw the light, where she was able to self reflect and become a better Monique, for lack of a better word. I can't think of how she put it.

listen, I actually, there a lot of people giving her grief about that outfit. I thought she looked fabulous. I thought her hair looked fabulous. I thought she looked like a power ranger of some sort, but who cares? Like she wore it and she wore it well. Like who cares? I think it was totally over the top and crazy. It was a statement.

Kelli (28:30.435)
It was a statement dress and listen, it didn't take three people to walk her out on stage, so I was totally fine with it. I mean, the leg thing was definitely like Power Ranger-ish.

Wendy (28:36.046)
Exactly. It was.

Wendy (28:45.262)
I liked it, I liked it. And like I said, her hair in the, I liked it, I liked it, I liked it. She wore it well, she wore it well.

Kelli (28:48.429)
I loved her hair. Yeah.

Yeah. She is stunning. Like when they like show her close up, she truly is stunning.

Wendy (28:57.976)
She is stunning.

Wendy (29:03.906)
She is, I totally agree.

Kelli (29:05.103)
and she's a Jersey girl.

Wendy (29:07.318)
Yeah, she's a beautiful woman. And honestly, I like her so much better now that she's back. I really do. It's been five years since she's been there, and she came with her old binder, showed it to Andy. We had the same old tabs in it, which I thought were so funny.

Kelli (29:28.849)
my god. The lady?

Wendy (29:30.796)
The last lady, last lady. Not the first lady, but the last lady. Yep. She did say that she had been in court with custody issues and just the night before she received a cease and desist. Jassi threw out, because of Stacy, Jassi threw that out.

Kelli (29:37.551)
That was great. That was great.

Kelli (29:51.163)
think that's gonna come up again.

Wendy (29:59.222)
A viewer said to her, you're much lighter this season. She said, well, you know, the first step was to getting lighter was losing 350 pounds. And the second step was looking. Yeah, exactly.

Kelli (30:06.799)
and his mother. And whatever his mother weighs.

Wendy (30:14.034)
and was looking at herself and divorce taught her that she didn't love herself and she was allowing somebody else to deplete her. Listen, I think she is a changed person. I think she is like walking the walk that she's talking right now. Like it's not just words. I saw a totally different Monique. I did.

Kelli (30:35.995)
Yeah, listen, I always liked Monique and I hated how jealous Gisele was of her and Robin really, and how they came at her. But I do find her very enjoyable to watch this season. She is much lighter, she's just, you know.

Wendy (30:51.02)
Yeah.

Kelli (30:55.345)
Like looking back, you could see like whatever Candace was doing, and you know, Candace has a mouth on her, but it couldn't have been that bad, whatever she was saying, you know? But Monique must have just had so much pent up anger because of what was going on at home. That's how it came out. I mean, honestly, even after they removed her from that room where that tasting was, she was.

Wendy (31:03.384)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (31:12.216)
Right.

Kelli (31:24.259)
I mean, she was fighting hard to get back in that room. She was not, she saw red. It's like she blacked out.

Wendy (31:27.49)
She was.

Kelli (31:34.705)
For a while, it took them to calm her down.

Wendy (31:38.54)
Well, listen, I like that Andy said that, you you guys don't know this, but I tried to get her to come back to Ultimate Girls Trip season two, and she said she wasn't ready. And I give her a lot of credit for that. She knew that she wasn't mentally ready. And even still, you know, she said to come back this season, she said to herself, like, I can sit here alone and not have any conflict and say I'm okay, but I won't really know.

Kelli (31:51.12)
Yeah.

Wendy (32:05.196)
I won't really know until I go out into the world and live. And she's right. She's right. This is actually the only part of the reunion I liked. And I'm hoping we get more, you know, at the next one. this...

Kelli (32:09.167)
Yeah, yeah, she had to face it.

Kelli (32:18.337)
I hope so. mean, whatever she's got on her phone. But you know, listen, I think that because they show, know, the whole the producers camera of Stacey saying, I saw people, Timo saw people and Chris was one of those people. It does lend itself to you believing that Chris was someone she saw romantically.

Wendy (32:23.222)
Yeah, yeah, whatever she's gonna

Wendy (32:44.449)
Mm-hmm. Right.

Kelli (32:45.733)
But I agree, whatever picture that was that they showed, you could tell there's other people sitting at that table. You could tell that it wasn't just the two of them on that. So that's nothing.

Wendy (32:59.532)
Right. I mean, listen, the fact that Monique says, I don't even care. Like, Stacey's a beautiful, she's a beautiful girl. I love watching you. You know, you're funny as hell. Like, there's no animosity, there's no bitterness. What she was...

Kelli (33:01.637)
But at this point...

Kelli (33:05.956)
Exactly.

Kelli (33:17.283)
No, and she even says what upset me is the possibility of you taking something back to him. She's not even saying she did it. We don't know what happens next week, but I like the fact that Monique's, you know, just keeping an open mind that it might not be Stacy. I don't think it was Stacy. don't think, why would Stacy do that? Why would

Wendy (33:27.522)
Right.

Kelli (33:46.938)
Stacey put herself in the hot seat like that. That's putting yourself in the hot seat. if she's back with her husband, what does she care if Monique is sitting there at a table talking shit about Chris Samuels? She doesn't care. The only one that would care is jacked up cookie.

Wendy (34:08.139)
yeah, and then who's Cookie closest to? I think Kay. Or Giselle.

Kelli (34:11.537)
Right.

Right. Yeah, I think it was Cookie.

Wendy (34:20.502)
I do too. I do too. And I think when she said that, you you're not going to be able to show this, I think it's because of the cease and desist. Has nothing to do with like what the content is. I think it's because of that.

Kelli (34:33.037)
Exactly. Right, because it's probably him. He's probably on the camera. He's probably in the video.

Wendy (34:40.813)
Yeah.

Kelli (34:42.403)
And if there's a season to assist about him, then obviously.

Wendy (34:46.85)
But they did show that other picture with him and Stacey.

Kelli (34:50.905)
Yeah. But that wasn't Monique doing that. Stacey brought that up, not Monique.

Wendy (34:52.514)
But maybe that was a picture that's already out in public. Right.

Well, I don't know, don't think Stacey brought it up, production put it up.

Kelli (35:02.833)
Well, Stacey said the only picture I've seen, oh yeah, you're right, they showed the picture and she said that picture there were 25 other people sitting at the table. But yeah, that picture was probably already online out on social media. That's probably where they got it from. They didn't get it from Monique. Why would she have a picture of Chris with another woman?

Wendy (35:07.096)
Right.

Wendy (35:11.873)
Right.

Wendy (35:24.43)
And then they kind of bring up Monique's interaction with Angel and Bobby, how she was projecting.

Monique said I wasn't coming after your marriage. wasn't specifically speaking about Bobby. I was talking about the NFL in general. can see where, no, Angel and I thought the same thing. You were specifically talking about Bobby. mean, maybe in your mind you weren't. You were being general. But that's not how it appeared to everybody. It appeared to everyone that you were talking about Bobby.

Kelli (36:04.431)
Yeah, I think she was. think she saw the public's opinion and just like Charisse, she backstabbed.

Wendy (36:09.45)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. I will say, though, everyone did, by everyone, mean Tia and Kay said that Bobby is wonderful and he was such a good host and he was doing everything. So those are the ones that were staying there with Bobby. So they're the ones that would know, right?

Kelli (36:30.491)
Yep. Yep.

Yeah, I appreciated that they said that as well. He does seem like a very nice guy and it does seem like he loves his wife very much. And that is all you have to do to get under Giselle's skin and get a target on your back.

Wendy (36:38.616)
Yeah.

Wendy (36:50.21)
Yeah, it's true. It is true.

Kelli (36:51.569)
because they definitely have money. He played, he actually played in the NFL.

Wendy (36:58.583)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (37:00.123)
So they got the money, she's got a husband who loves her, she's young, she's pretty, you know, it's just, it's the whole formula to get yourself to dislike you. She fits the suit.

Wendy (37:20.012)
Yes, yes she does. So we'll just have to wait and see what happens next week. We know Karen's coming. We know we're gonna get to see what it is Monique has. I did see, yes, the Karen was saying that she really liked when Wendy's mother told her to shut the F up. I was like, ooh.

Kelli (37:32.697)
It looks like Karen and Wendy go at it.

Kelli (37:47.602)
Yeah, it looks like those two have some real beef with each other. I mean, I don't know what Wendy possibly could have done. I mean, she brought Karen to the White House for crying out loud. I feel like she was a good soldier, quite honestly, for a little while.

Wendy (38:08.16)
I do too. I do too. And then when, you know, Karen, you know, did her statement last reunion that she didn't show up to, she didn't even acknowledge Wendy.

Kelli (38:19.545)
Not at all. And Wendy said, that's not my friend. That's not my friend right there. So maybe that's what Karen's bent about, but she was right. I thought Wendy was right. I thought she had every right to say what she said.

Wendy (38:34.54)
Yeah. And honestly, I feel like that probably wasn't her friend because she has now admitted that she was an alcoholic and had been an alcoholic for a very long time. So was she in the right mind when she even made that video? You know I'm saying? Like, who knows? I don't know. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I did see though in this episode, because I actually watched it twice. I watched it on Peacock. And then I watched it again today just to...

Kelli (38:44.591)
Right. Right.

Kelli (38:52.271)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (39:04.523)
refresh my memory. yeah, it said Real Housewives of Atlanta is coming soon. It didn't give a date yet though, but I was glad to see it said coming. We don't have a date yet though, right?

Kelli (39:05.137)
Refresh, yeah.

Kelli (39:13.905)
just saw that.

Kelli (39:17.913)
And it's all the same people coming back. Everyone's coming back. Drew, Shemia, Kelly. not Bray, but we knew that.

Wendy (39:21.174)
Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes, and not Kenya. We knew that too. I'm looking forward to Atlanta. From what I can hear from Cynthia, she talks a little bit about it on Humble Brag, there's a lot of drama. There's a lot of drama. And she said that Drew and herself all have wig lines with Porsche. So Drew and Porsche are OK.

now so. Right. Yeah. So yeah exactly. So I'm looking forward to Atlanta because I mean after next week the only thing we have really is Beverly Hills.

Kelli (40:01.21)
Okay, well that's good. So I guess the drama's not between those two.

Kelli (40:17.905)
Wow, you're right. Traders is ending. Potomac is ending. God, we gotta get on that Below Deck. At least the Salt Lake City episodes.

Wendy (40:23.735)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (40:29.526)
Yeah, yeah, we sure do. Yeah, we have to get on the below deck and I think we can also work on the author that reached out to us, try and get the author on and...

Kelli (40:43.813)
Yes, yes.

Yes, because I'm getting through that, yes.

Wendy (40:50.574)
I thought maybe we might want to since we all really enjoy traders, maybe we go back and start with season one of traders and see how, you know, see how it's changed. Yeah.

Kelli (41:01.563)
How different? Yeah, that's a good idea, actually. That's a good idea.

Wendy (41:05.9)
Right? There's, mean, just the US ones. I don't know that it go check out the other ones, but go, go back and, mean, I've never seen season one and I thought, know what, maybe we should all do it together. Yeah.

Kelli (41:11.801)
Yeah, just to see how it changes. And I really want to look into, I'm hoping somebody does a podcast on it, but I really want to look into the Erica Girardi lawsuit by the trustees. I'm just very interested in it. My boss was not in today, so I couldn't ask him about it, but I'll be in the office with him on Thursday, so I'll have to ask him about

Wendy (41:36.044)
Yeah, I think someone on social media asked for us to update them when we find out about that on one of our platforms. I don't know which one.

Kelli (41:41.049)
Yeah, I'm definitely, definitely going to look into what's in the lawsuit and then ask my boss what he thinks about it. Because it's just to me, if a trustee is suing a debtor's spouse, they must have cause to do so. But let's see. You know, I'm just a billing coordinator in a law firm.

Wendy (42:04.098)
Yeah. Yeah, I'd like to know too. You're the one that brings in the money. Let's be real. That's right.

Kelli (42:13.399)
I am. If I were in the mob, I would be the earner. Yes. Yes.

Wendy (42:22.868)
Okay, so until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (42:29.605)
Bye.