RHOP-Polo, Potlucks & Possible Evictions

Wendy (00:00.942)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.149)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:05.794)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Potomac, Season 10, Episode Number 12, Lease is Up, Giddy Up. it's okay.

Kelli (00:17.27)
Yeah, yeah, it's alright.

Wendy (00:18.958)
That's all right. We start out at Tia's house and her older brother is there. He's three years older than she is and he lives in Long Island so she's invited him to go because they're all going to this polo match because the company that she works for, Childers Sotheby's, is having this like big event. So she's inviting the ladies to go and they've got this big party bus and

So that's why her brother's here. We get to meet her brother.

she uninvited Stacey to the event because of what happened at Stacey, which makes sense. mean, I wouldn't. Yeah. Yep.

Kelli (00:59.742)
Understandable, understandable. Toodle-loo.

Wendy (01:06.114)
And they're talking about this on the bus and Jassy's like, you know, I'm gonna need some proof that like she's lying. Cause Jassy's still, you know, standing with Stacey. And I do too. I do too. And they're not really providing it and they're not really even acknowledging her. They're just kind of like, whatever.

Kelli (01:15.384)
The jussie said that.

Kelli (01:26.38)
No, Ashley says that she wasn't gonna go to her wedding until she found out that Ashley and Wendy were going. First of all, none of you are really friends. So this isn't surprising at all. And maybe that's because Stacey didn't wanna roll up on somebody's wedding that she's really not that close with, where she doesn't know anybody and stick out like a sore thumb. But if Wendy and Ashley are going, all right, well we'll stick out like sore thumbs together.

Wendy (01:32.534)
Right, exactly.

Wendy (01:37.036)
Right. Right. Right.

Wendy (01:56.14)
Right. In Texas, it's not like it's down the street.

Kelli (01:58.828)
That's what I mean, like maybe just the thought of her going by herself, not knowing a lot of people, she was like, I don't know if I'm gonna do that.

Wendy (02:05.942)
Right. It's just Ashley being messy. I'm just so over Ashley being messy. I am so over the mean girls that are Giselle and Ashley. I really am over it.

Kelli (02:09.442)
For sure.

Kelli (02:18.284)
Yes. And the worst part about Ashley, because Giselle doesn't do this, Ashley acts like she's truly concerned about you and that she's coming from a place of concern and that I'm looking out for you. Bullshit, you are not. You're just being messy, just like Giselle is. Giselle's just more honest about it.

Wendy (02:30.872)
Yeah, bullshit.

Mm-hmm.

Wendy (02:39.682)
That is true. Giselle, when she gets there, she said to the polo match, she's just there for the food and champagne. She's not really interested in the horses. I would love to go see a polo match. I think that sounds exciting, to be quite honest with you.

Kelli (02:53.432)
It's funny because I just watched, I agree with you, I would like to go to a polo match as well. Especially watching an all-women's team, I think that's so cool that they do that. But I just watched an old episode of Southern Charm when Thomas Ravenel was still on it, and it was the episode of his polo match.

Wendy (03:00.526)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (03:10.18)
okay.

So Gisele gets there and she says, these white people have never seen a black woman before. They're all intrigued. Because not only does one roll up, the whole crowd of them rolls up.

Kelli (03:22.346)
Wendy said, Tia, you are bringing the color. And then she said, this is where Ashley's gonna meet her second husband, because it's all old white men. That was so good. Yep.

Wendy (03:31.566)
That's exactly, it's so true. is so, it was good. It was really good. T also lets them know that they've been given the opportunity to sing the national anthem. And there's two singers in the group. you know, I didn't, we know this now that Angel is a trained opera singer and Ashley's a singer. So she asks Angel to do it. And for whatever reason,

I didn't see this happen on the episode, but I was watching the after show. Angel said that she wasn't feeling well. So they wound up all singing it together. Did you see that happen on the show? Okay, so that's how I learned about it then. It was on the after show. was like, why are they all singing it?

Kelli (04:11.98)
Yes. No, no. It started out where they flashed back to Tia or somebody asking, I guess Tia asked Angel to sing it and Ashley said, you don't want me to sing it? Right, which come on Ashley. And then when they got there, it was decided that they were both gonna do it. No, we didn't see that. But then all of a sudden we saw Ashley, Angel, Giselle and Kay all singing.

Wendy (04:23.906)
Tia asked them, what about me? Right. Right.

Wendy (04:42.114)
Yeah, so that's what happened was, and again, I only know this because I watched the after show, Angel said that she wasn't feeling well and Giselle was throwing shade about that. And Tia said, no, she was on antibiotics for a couple of days before that. really was not. So this whole time I've been noticing, Tia's actually been sticking up for Angel and especially on the after show. Tia kept sticking up for Angel.

Kelli (05:09.238)
Okay, I'm gonna have to watch that.

Wendy (05:11.862)
It was Tia and Giselle together. And at one point she says to her about, who's a better singer, Ashley or Angel? And Giselle's like, hmm. Tia goes, because I'm just trying to figure out, is it that you really just don't like Tia? And it's true. Angel. Tia says to Giselle, you really just don't like Angel. And that's exactly it. She just doesn't like Angel.

Kelli (05:37.282)
Here's the thing, people. Angel is younger. Her husband has money. You could say whatever the fuck you want about this whole thing. I do think Giselle was right about why they had to leave that Airbnb. It was an Airbnb. You're not evicted from an Airbnb. It wasn't a rental property. It was an Airbnb. She misjudged the timing, probably because of filming.

Wendy (05:59.018)
No, no you're not. Right.

Kelli (06:05.292)
But here's the thing, Gisele doesn't like her because she's younger and she's got more money than Gisele. She did the same thing to Candice. She did the same thing to Monique. She did the same thing to Ashley season one. They didn't like Ashley season one. They treated her like a gold digger.

Wendy (06:20.312)
They did not.

Yep. Yeah.

Kelli (06:25.09)
So this is just a hazing process with Giselle. Angel is going through the process.

Wendy (06:32.64)
I honestly, I don't think she's gonna make it. I don't think she's got it in her.

Kelli (06:37.048)
I have a feeling they're gonna choose not to make it because this is probably not what her husband signed up for. We see in the end how he's had it. that's okay because they do have NFL money. They don't need this bullshit. Giselle needs this. Giselle needs this. Ashley needs this.

Wendy (06:55.16)
Mm-hmm. Right. I agree. I agree. You should definitely watch the after show, because Angel looks gorgeous on the after show. Her hair, her dress, she looks gorgeous. She really does. Yeah.

Kelli (07:10.156)
Yeah, I will. I will.

Wendy (07:18.196)
Let's see.

Kelli (07:20.888)
Well, they get to stomp the divots, but Wendy was not feeling that.

Wendy (07:24.344)
wouldn't either to be quite honest with you. I they really weren't dressed for divot stomping.

Kelli (07:29.346)
They really weren't. I just kept thinking of Pretty Woman, Pretty Woman. That scene in Pretty Woman, you know?

Wendy (07:34.272)
Yes, yes, yes.

Kelli (07:38.712)
You

Wendy (07:41.006)
So then, don't know where this, Jazzy's talking to Ashley and she's saying that she was surprised to hear that Stacey wasn't sure whether or not she was gonna be attending her wedding. And Jazzy said it was the other way around, of course, that I would be at Stacey's wedding. But I'm like, why are you listening to Ashley? I don't think that that's the case. Right. But then Ashley goes on to say, but Stacey did have a really good time at your wedding. I was like.

Kelli (08:01.1)
Yeah, don't fall for it. Right. Yeah, like hopefully she doesn't fall for it.

Wendy (08:10.528)
Okay, well, why didn't you lead with that? Like, seriously, like, why do you have to do that?

Kelli (08:15.03)
Never. Right. But how about then Ashley bringing up that Angel doesn't think she fits into the group and Ashley thinks she should have spent more time with the other ladies today?

Wendy (08:22.488)
Right.

Wendy (08:26.614)
Right. Right. Yeah.

Kelli (08:28.066)
Like, what?

Kelli (08:33.777)
I don't understand, it's like this woman can do no right.

Wendy (08:33.996)
And then we, yeah.

No, that's it. That's exactly it. Because then 18 hours later, we see that Angel's at her house with the boxes and she's packing up everything because she's got to get out of the house.

Wendy (08:52.032)
And she talks about the whole problem with the Airbnb dates. So they're relocating to another place, I guess, that they're renting in Baltimore in Maryland, right? Not Potomac? Is that what the situation was?

Kelli (09:12.524)
Well, I don't

Wendy (09:12.682)
or because it was hard to understand because they said when they got to the party that they were coming from Baltimore. So I didn't quite understand that to be honest with you.

Kelli (09:21.858)
Well, I thought she said they were going back to Colorado though when they were packing up. They were going back to Colorado, they were getting some things and then they were coming back and then I guess they were going to Baltimore.

Wendy (09:26.338)
Well, that is what she said.

Wendy (09:34.894)
maybe that's it. I don't know. I was a little bit confused about the whole thing.

Kelli (09:37.336)
Maybe their second Airbnb, now that they know they're gonna continue filming and they need to get another place.

Wendy (09:47.554)
The thing is, I don't know how much longer they're filming, because this is episode 11.

Kelli (09:51.875)
But that, so that's what I was thinking. Like typically they film for like three months, right? So she probably got her Airbnb for three months. And then, you know, for whatever reason, I'm sure something comes up and they're like, no, we have to keep filming. And then they were like, shit, now we gotta go. And you know, we don't have a place to stay.

Wendy (09:55.392)
Yeah!

Wendy (09:58.943)
And... Yeah.

Wendy (10:09.869)
Right.

Wendy (10:16.363)
Right. Right.

Yeah, I don't know. wasn't, I felt bad for her. Let's just put it that way. I felt bad for her. I don't like the way that Gisele and Ashley are treating her at all.

Kelli (10:27.762)
Uh-uh. No.

Wendy (10:32.398)
Then Kiana goes over to Angel's house and she tells her that she's gotta go back to Colorado. And Tia shows up too. Tia asks Angel if she had a realtor, like she said, and she said, well, she has Jessica. And Angel's like, well, would you be okay with someone else helping you? Because she is a realtor and if she could help her find what she's looking for, I think she was genuine with that. I think that Tia really.

Kelli (10:55.97)
So.

No, I do, I do. Did you catch when Angel said to Bobby, she works for Sotheby's and he said, well, what are we doing looking on Zillow? I don't think she's working with an agent. I don't know who Jessica is. Jessica might be her assistant or something, but yeah. He was like, well, then what are we doing on Zillow?

Wendy (10:58.626)
You don't think so? okay.

Wendy (11:15.271)
I didn't catch that.

Wendy (11:22.771)
I didn't catch that.

Kelli (11:28.376)
So I don't think she was even working with an agent.

Wendy (11:28.854)
Okay. Because who was that? Remember they went to look at that house with that real estate agent was her maybe, maybe, I don't know. Okay.

Kelli (11:33.356)
Yeah.

Maybe it was the listing agent and maybe whoever Jessica is made an appointment for them to go look at the house. I mean, it doesn't make sense why wouldn't you use an agent? mean, you're not gonna not use an agent to like save on commission, because you're gonna pay commission to somebody. So it, exactly, it doesn't really make sense, but that's what he said that Bobby said, then what are we doing on Zillow?

Wendy (11:42.583)
Okay maybe.

Wendy (11:47.266)
Right.

Wendy (11:52.622)
Right. And you're spending millions!

Wendy (12:01.36)
no, I didn't catch that. I didn't catch that.

Wendy (12:06.158)
so then Giselle is invites them to go to this, cowboy tradition. And like,

Kelli (12:19.17)
So she basically said that she and Wendy did a trip to Panama last 4th of July. So they want to start making 4th of July like a thing for their group. Like start a tradition, have a party for 4th of July. And this year they're doing Cowboy Potomac because apparently Beyonce's gonna be in the area or something. By the way people, Beyonce is not a country artist. I'm just gonna...

Wendy (12:29.472)
Okay. Okay.

Okay.

Wendy (12:40.534)
Okay.

Wendy (12:45.506)
Well, but she did that car, cunt, what is it? What was it called? Cowboy? Carter? Something like that, yeah. I don't know.

Kelli (12:47.634)
I know. Cowboy Carter, Carter, cowboy, cowboy, Carter.

Kelli (12:55.724)
even get me started.

Wendy (12:57.326)
You

Kelli (12:58.68)
I can't.

But that is the reason for the theme. Their cowboy Potomac party. I love the idea of a potluck though. I love a potluck.

Wendy (13:08.302)
Okay.

I do too. I do too. And I like that they invited the kids and the families and everything. Like, I like that. I thought that was nice. I mean, I did think it was a little interesting that Wendy's in charge of food and she's getting Popeyes, but listen, there's nothing wrong with Popeyes chicken. I mean, it's, you know, kids like it. I know my husband loves it. My husband loves Popeyes chicken.

Kelli (13:16.822)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (13:30.252)
The kids will like it.

Yeah, my father loves Popeye's chicken.

Wendy (13:37.294)
Yeah.

Kelli (13:41.068)
Well, Tina of course has to call Giselle and tell her.

Wendy (13:41.287)
Kelli (13:46.474)
And she said later in the episode she said as soon as I said it I was like, I wish I could put that back in my mouth.

Wendy (14:05.386)
Eddie said, Eddie, when Eddie and Wendy are talking about the chicken, they're talking about the kitchen and how the kitchen's still, you know, in remodeling phase. And Eddie's like, well, you know, I hope, I hope we're staying on budget. And Wendy's like, budget? I don't know if you know this, but like one invoice is over a hundred K. So you already know we blew the budget. I was like, wait, what?

Kelli (14:29.442)
The timing of this conversation is so wild knowing what's going on.

Wendy (14:34.282)
Yes, yes.

Kelli (14:35.862)
because this kitchen right now could have been the whole catapult for this alleged insurance scam.

Wendy (14:44.91)
Yeah, I mean.

Kelli (14:45.172)
if one invoice is over a hundred k

Wendy (14:48.472)
Yeah, how much? Right, exactly.

Kelli (14:50.296)
I mean, I think I did my kitchen for $35,000. So, yeah, if one invoice, I mean, God only knows, like that could be her cabinets and appliances for all we know. Nevermind.

Wendy (15:06.604)
Or just her cabinets, or maybe her countertop, who knows? Who knows?

Kelli (15:09.95)
Exactly. So I don't know. It could have been the precursor to getting a little greedy with the insurance claims, allegedly.

Wendy (15:20.29)
the remodel.

Wendy (15:26.862)
Yes, could be. So then she brings up again about her father. She's been going back and forth in her head about giving her father a phone call. And then Eddie throws in that him and his siblings, they check in once a month, which I think that's fine. you don't. Yeah, I do too. I do too.

Kelli (15:46.71)
I mean, from where they were, I think it's great.

I wonder if he mentioned his parents because his parents did not go to that party, just his siblings did.

Wendy (15:56.416)
No, he didn't. He did not. But I think it's interesting that she brought her father up because when we see scenes for next week, boy, her mom is pissed.

Kelli (16:06.668)
Well, listen, we're seeing, and we always saw this A side of Susan, right, is her name, but I feel like this season we're really seeing it, and it quite honestly is no wonder Eddie's mom wants nothing to do with this woman.

Wendy (16:13.794)
Yes.

Wendy (16:22.53)
Yeah, good point. Good point. Yeah, you're right.

Kelli (16:24.216)
Right.

Kelli (16:28.408)
She is acting a fool on this show.

Wendy (16:34.028)
Yeah, she absolutely is and I wonder like does she really realize it?

Kelli (16:39.702)
I don't think she realizes it. I think it's just who she is because she was the same way on Wife Swap. I mean, she didn't even try to soften it up for that poor woman who came, you know, who swapped with Wendy.

Wendy (16:50.382)
Yeah, and you know what? It's not like it was her first season. Like, she's been doing this for a couple years now. you know, she should be reflecting on what she's seen. But she's not. She's making it even worse. No. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (17:00.704)
Yeah, I don't think there's a lot of self-reflection there. Yeah, she's coming off worse and worse and worse as the show goes on.

Wendy (17:10.574)
So then the next thing we see is Stacey's meeting up with Kierna for lunch. This next thing I think is so funny. Like they're sitting there talking and they're looking at the menu and Kierna's like, can eat anything. First she says, she goes, I can eat anything but cheese. And Stacey's like, well, how about the burrata? And she's like, I can't eat cheese. I didn't know that about you. Okay, we're learning something.

She's like, that's odd, she's like, all this time, like I didn't know you were allergic to cheese. I was like, wait, what? And then when she comes time to order, she orders the marata. Did you see the look on Kiara's face? I was like.

Kelli (17:52.889)
But listen, I think Stacey just really wanted the fucking burrata. So order your own appetizer, okay? Like what do you put? Are you penny pinching? Like put it on Stacey's tab.

Wendy (17:57.234)
She definitely, exactly. So funny. It was so funny. was just, I was like, my God.

Kelli (18:08.108)
She clearly wanted that burrata.

Wendy (18:10.702)
She did. Listen, I love a good burrata. But I wouldn't order with you because you can't eat cheese. I know, I know, I know.

Kelli (18:14.028)
Me too. And I- I can't eat cheese and I love burrata. I can't do it.

I would order my own appetizer.

Wendy (18:29.782)
gosh, so they're talking about like when they were at Lake Norman, Stacey, like they had, shared the bunk beds and like they got close, I thought a little bit when they were there, you know? And.

Kelli (18:41.612)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (18:47.704)
Then the whole thing comes out about Stacey dating Monique's ex-husband. I don't know. don't, listen, I don't really feel like this conversation went anywhere. They just kind of agreed that they both have a lot in common with, you know, Greg and T-Mu, but, you know, she's like, I'm a very direct person, Kay, saying, and, you know.

Kelli (19:03.82)
Yeah.

Wendy (19:11.2)
I would never harm anyone and Stacey's like, well, in the spirit of moving forward, I love how Stacey puts things, in the spirit of moving forward, if you ever hear anything about me, can you just come to me? I'm like, okay. And Kay's like, yeah, I can do that. So they just kind of move forward.

Kelli (19:18.295)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:24.726)
Yeah, they do cut, like it got a little heated for a minute. Well, from what we saw, the edited version, but they at least brought it around and ended amicably.

Wendy (19:30.166)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Wendy (19:39.424)
It's funny because after you mentioned that Detroit thing, now I so notice it all the time because Kay called Stacey Detroit again and Stacey said, okay, Baltimore. I was like, so this is what we're doing now. Like I didn't notice it at first.

Kelli (19:49.986)
Yep. Yeah.

Kelli (19:54.829)
Yeah, I mean, a couple of them have done that to Stacey calling her Detroit, so maybe now she's just gonna throw it back. Well, she called Tia Miss Perm Improper, and that's what.

Wendy (20:05.206)
Yes, that's yes, but I don't know if you remember at the end where she's talking about how she's such a good cook and then they cut to a scene three days earlier with AJ at her house and she's making this peach cobbler and he's like, it's not even cooked. And she's like, well, this is Detroit peach cobbler. I was like, now she's in on it, which I kind of loved. I mean, I think it was more like if you can't beat them, join them, you know?

Kelli (20:21.304)
You

Exactly. I guess they eat uncooked peach cobbler in Detroit. Yeah

Kelli (20:32.92)
But that's the likable thing about Stacey. She's so unbothered by these women and she'll get in on the joke right with them. And that gets under their skin so much more. Like she's really doing a good, like her or not, she's doing a great job on this show right now because these women, Ashley and Gisele, are relentless with her.

Wendy (20:36.919)
Yes!

Right.

Yep. Yep.

Wendy (20:47.755)
It does.

Wendy (20:58.786)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's true.

Kelli (21:01.12)
And again, it's just making them look worse.

Wendy (21:08.558)
So then, you know, what they're bringing for the party. I don't know why Wendy had to tell Giselle that Stacey wants to bring potato salad. Like, why did that even have to be a conversation?

Kelli (21:18.506)
I don't know, that was weird.

Wendy (21:21.661)
Right. And then they start talking about how Angel got kicked out of the house. And Wendy said, well, this girl that I know, she's a realtor, said someone came up to me and said, I'm looking for a house to rent that looks like a $50,000 a month house, but I have a budget of $2,000 to $3,000 a month. I don't really think that happened. Why would she say that?

Kelli (21:41.4)
I mean, listen, don't we all want to live in a house that looks like it's $50,000 a month and only pay two or three? why, like, you're making it out like this is a bad thing. She's a smart fucking woman.

Wendy (21:45.696)
Yes!

Wendy (21:49.739)
Yes!

Wendy (21:55.886)
Yeah, but do you really think she did that? Like, and if it was an Airbnb, is she going through a realtor?

Kelli (21:58.753)
Probably not.

Kelli (22:03.0)
But that's what I'm saying! She hasn't even been talking to a realtor to look for a house, apparently. We're on fucking Zillow.

Wendy (22:04.61)
Like.

I know. I know.

Kelli (22:11.032)
Yeah, like I don't, well, I was gonna say, I can't picture Wendy lying about that, but given what's going on right now, there's a possibility Wendy could lie.

Wendy (22:11.532)
I know.

Wendy (22:18.126)
I I know.

It's interesting to me too watching Wendy move too because again, when we started this season, we were both like, we really like Wendy and you know, and I'm looking at her differently specifically like in regards to like, she's still okay with Stacey regardless of what's going on with Stacey, but she does throw a lot of shade towards Angel, which again, I think is interesting.

Kelli (22:30.762)
Absolutely.

Kelli (22:45.805)
Yes.

It's interesting, but it's almost understandable because I do feel like Angel came in with an axe to grind with Wendy because of the whole college thing and making it out like Wendy didn't like her and Wendy was ignoring her. So it's a little understandable because I don't, I don't, we, not that we saw, we didn't see Wendy, you know, blatantly ignore her, but remember Kay also came into the season with some fake beef.

with Wendy, so it's almost like Angel jumped on that wagon.

Wendy (23:21.058)
And you know what's so funny on the after show?

Stacey and Wendy were talking about this whole Angel thing and I don't know if it Stacey that said it or Wendy, but they said, know, Ashley and Giselle have really come hard for Angel. You know, the catfish, I mean, and then repeating the catfish and making the catfish and they've really, and Angel hasn't given either one of them the amount of vitriol that she's given to Wendy. Which I think, right?

Kelli (23:53.336)
That is true.

Wendy (23:55.488)
It is true, this is like, yeah, it's crazy. And I was thinking, is it because she's, and she's not, like in her confessionals, she's not afraid of Gisele and Ashley, but in real life, it seems like she is because she never really barks back at them.

Kelli (23:56.972)
Yeah, I mean, we st-

Kelli (24:12.95)
No, well we saw her go up to Giselle at the fake reasonably shady party that your partner couldn't even come to, so you should have called it something else. But we see Angel go up to Giselle and basically say, like, I wanna be your friend, I wanna move forward, I wanna, like, almost apologizing to her just to get in better. Like maybe she's, you know, Ashley and Giselle are the OGs and she's just,

Wendy (24:19.168)
Right. Right.

Wendy (24:34.424)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:43.404)
You know, kind of like what Jennifer Aiden did with Teresa. I mean, Angel's not going that far, obviously. She's not crawling up her ass like Jennifer Aiden did. But, you know, she figures they've been here the longest, they're not going anywhere, so I should probably align myself with them.

Wendy (24:50.594)
Right.

Wendy (25:04.716)
I wonder if-

Kelli (25:05.014)
I don't know though, she doesn't seem as calculated, Angel. Yeah, I know.

Wendy (25:08.502)
No, she doesn't. She really doesn't. She doesn't. I was thinking, I don't know if it has something to do with the way Wendy and Kiarna were not getting along. And because she's friends, yeah. I mean, I don't know though. It is just a little weird to watch those dynamics because, you know, it doesn't make a lot of sense. Ashley then says, is Angel broke? And she goes, well, I think Bobby's over being here. And then he said, well, I heard Bobby doesn't like

Kelli (25:19.98)
think that's what it is.

Wendy (25:38.858)
Eddie and Wendy while Wendy's sitting there and and Wendy just laughs which I love that she just and just else like nah I'm joking I'm like you gotta be kidding me I don't know

Kelli (25:44.504)
She does.

Yeah, cause she knows.

Kelli (25:52.941)
You know what I did love though? I loved when Wendy said, I'm not interested in Angel's, basically her financial situation. I'm interested in how she shows up as a friend to the women in this group. And that's why I like Wendy, because I think she truly feels that way. Wendy doesn't give a fuck about your financial situation. And I can't imagine that they don't have a good financial situation, Angel and Bobby. you know.

Wendy (26:05.164)
Right. Yes.

Kelli (26:20.554)
I do think she flexes too much on the wag thing. And this is why you shouldn't flex so much about anything. Because if you didn't, if you didn't, you know.

act as if this brought so much clout, then they wouldn't, they wouldn't, they might not be looking so carefully at one misstep and bringing it to everybody's attention. Like, obviously she didn't get evicted, it was an Airbnb, but they're gonna use that word. Like, and they're not gonna let this go, because you talk about being a wag nonstop.

Wendy (26:54.795)
No, they're not.

Kelli (26:59.884)
So sometimes like the less you say the better.

Wendy (27:00.29)
Right. Yeah.

That's very true. That's very true. So then what happens? Ashley, you know, Ashley shows up with her catfish because of Angel. She specifically bought it to shade Angel, which is really crappy. It's crappy. It really is. And did anyone even eat the damn catfish? It doesn't even look like anyone ate it. Kids don't want catfish.

Kelli (27:19.99)
It it's so juvenile.

Kelli (27:28.106)
It doesn't. I'll tell you what, did you ever have catfish?

Wendy (27:32.812)
Yes, real cat, good, fresh catfish is good.

Kelli (27:36.728)
So good, my Nana taught me how to make it like blackened. So good.

Wendy (27:44.684)
Yeah, Bill caught a catfish once when we were on our way to Florida and we ate it that night. Like I only like fish, honestly, this is just, if it's fresh caught. I don't like frozen fish. I don't like fishy fish. don't, I just want it fresh caught. So yeah, I had catfish and it was good. It was good. Yeah.

Kelli (27:51.629)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:56.63)
Yeah, no, no.

Kelli (28:02.144)
It's delicious, but no, it didn't look like anybody ate it. And that was a ridiculous thing for her to do.

Wendy (28:06.518)
Yeah, it really was. It really was. The whole time they're just like throwing shade, even when like Kiana calls Angel and you know, she said that, you know, she's on her way, but she's pretty far away and Giselle is like so bent out of shape. She's like, you're two hours away. Just turn around and go home. What do you care?

Kelli (28:29.88)
Yeah, and then Bobby says, we'll get there when we get there. My husband would have said the same damn thing.

Wendy (28:34.966)
Mine would have too. Mine would have too. And Giselle, if you had one, he would have said the same thing too, Giselle. And Ashley.

Kelli (28:36.428)
Yeah, like don't fucking worry about it.

Exactly. And listen, I know it's a different state and we live at the shore. So 4th of July to us is like so different. Like it's beach, boardwalk, barbecues. It was a little interesting that they were like at an indoor place, wasn't it? Like it's 4th of July. You're on the East Coast. Why are you not at a barbecue or you know, something?

Wendy (28:53.35)
my god.

Wendy (29:08.206)
Well, even the fact, listen, this is what I did like about Angel when she showed up there and the catfish comment was made and she's like, you know what? I invited you to my house, I had a private chef, I welcomed you and you show up in this half rented, know, janky, and she was right, she was 100 % right.

Kelli (29:29.784)
Absolutely. I loved that she said that. She was absolutely right.

Wendy (29:33.026)
I wish she didn't say it in her confessional. I wish she said it to their faces. That's what I wish she did. Hopefully she does at the reunion. Hopefully she does.

Kelli (29:38.444)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (29:43.341)
Yeah, like Ashley and Wendy were so heated about that and Tia and Kay defended them though, Bobby and Angel. Like they just had to move, leave their house, go back to Colorado, come back, move back in and they got, they had babies.

Wendy (29:49.442)
Yes. Yes. I mean, this whole time T has been diff- Right. Right.

Wendy (30:02.796)
Yes! Yes!

I know, and Wendy's like, cause Tia's like, you know, she had a lot, she was a lot of stress. And Wendy's like, well, you had stress this week, didn't you? I had stress, we're still here. I'm like, come on, you can't compare the two.

Kelli (30:16.896)
No, you cannot compare the two.

Wendy (30:21.75)
So Stacey arrives with her husband Timo and boy that was the surprise of the event, right? I mean, Ashley said I was gonna pinch him.

Kelli (30:30.26)
I mean, Giselle was so bothered by the fact that Stacey showed up with her husband. I mean, the look on her face, she's so fucking jealous. It's ridiculous. It's so obvious.

Wendy (30:37.954)
Yes, she was.

Wendy (30:43.502)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (30:48.854)
It is. It really is. I loved how Eddie went right up to Timo, went over there and shook his hand. I love that. I love that he did that. And that's the only reason that she brought him there is because of Wendy and Eddie.

Kelli (31:00.673)
Absolutely.

Wendy (31:06.215)
And in her confessionals, Ashley shades Timo for showing up, but she also says, I give him props for actually showing up. I'm like.

Kelli (31:15.256)
You're like, what are you, why are you gonna shade them for showing up?

Wendy (31:18.068)
I know. I know.

Wendy (31:23.842)
So we know Stacey brought the potato salad. Jassy showed up with mac and cheese, which did look good. Tia brings Jolof rice. I don't know. Is that Nigerian maybe? Yeah. Yeah, probably. So then Wendy's going to give out, I don't know what the awards were. She said Giselle Bryant was on desserts.

Kelli (31:31.414)
It did look good.

Kelli (31:39.896)
I thought it was a Nigerian dish. didn't look it up, but I assumed it was a Nigerian dish,

Wendy (31:52.684)
And what did she bring? Like, what desserts were there?

Kelli (31:55.347)
They didn't even say, and it wasn't awards, it was just an excuse to get up and say that Ashley broke half-ish. That's all this was.

Wendy (31:57.229)
Wait!

Wendy (32:02.21)
Yeah, that's what it was. Yep, that's what it was. Yep.

Wendy (32:08.782)
So then after that whole thing happens, Angel goes over to Ashley and says hi. Ashley's like, well, I understand that. I talked to Giselle, and she said that you just had to move within a few days. And Angel's like, yeah, we're used to moving. We're an NFL family. She's like, we had a short-term lease for the property. Originally, we thought we had it for a certain period of time, but it turns out we made a mistake. Ashley, she's like, it's very hard for me to understand, because I know you're.

As a mom, like, you're really on top of things. Like, I'm confused. Like, how could you not understand, or make a mistake about the day? Are you kidding me? Like, who do you think you are?

Kelli (32:51.522)
I do think that Angel got a little tongue tied in this scene and I...

Wendy (32:55.692)
She definitely did. I don't blame her.

Kelli (32:59.146)
I don't blame her either. I wish she was able to handle it better. Not that I would have been able to handle it better. But again, Ashley is like a wolf in sheep's clothing because she comes as if she's, yeah, concerned. She's not concerned. She doesn't give a fuck about you, Angel. She's trying to humiliate you on national television is what she's doing because Giselle is jealous of you because you're younger and you have a husband and you're rich.

Wendy (33:10.838)
Right, she pretends

Wendy (33:21.08)
That's what she's trying to do. Yep.

Kelli (33:27.146)
And Ashley now works for Giselle. This is what we're dealing with. And you know, the whole catfish thing, and Andy Cohen, you better fucking bring this up at the reunion. You are accusing this woman, you are basically insulting her physical appearance is what you're doing. You're fat shaming her because you're showing much thinner pictures of her and saying that she catfished you.

Wendy (33:30.04)
Yeah. Yep.

Kelli (33:56.183)
That's the whole thing about a catfish, right? You put a picture up of something, someone who's extremely good looking, but you're not. So that's what you're accusing this woman of doing. And it's insulting her physical appearance. And Andy Cohen better bring it up at the reunion.

Wendy (34:01.304)
That's not you, right.

Wendy (34:14.764)
I'm sure it'll be brought up. I'm sure it'll be brought up. And that's when, you know, Wendy said, well, they were saying you were evicted, And then she's like, listen, I'm not going to dance around it. The people said you were evicted. I'm like, Wendy, like you didn't, you didn't have to go there. Like you didn't have to stoop to that level. Giselle, Giselle. Right. Those are the people.

Kelli (34:34.272)
No, because who were the people? Who were the people saying she got evicted? Giselle and Ashley? Right.

Wendy (34:43.692)
And that's actually something Giselle would do. Well, the streets are saying, word on the street.

Kelli (34:47.512)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (34:50.474)
I don't know. I'm very annoyed with the whole mean girl behavior. I think it is 2025. These are grown ass women with children and like, you know, set a good example. Just stop being so petty. Stop being so petty.

Kelli (34:58.232)
That's what I'm saying.

Kelli (35:04.962)
That's the problem though. Housewives is not setting a good example for anybody. It's really, it's getting tiresome to watch. Thank God for Southern Charm because I'm having a hard time getting through Housewives because it's the same thing every time. It's the same thing every time. It's Tamra doing it to people on OC. You know, it's...

Wendy (35:22.659)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (35:30.632)
Whoever on Salt Lake who's fighting at the time Giselle and Ashley so tired of watching them they can't even bring Jersey back because the fucking mess that became and Please leave it where it is. I hope to God Rhode Island doesn't get like this like But it just seems like it's the footprint now for housewives

Wendy (35:39.244)
Yeah.

Wendy (36:00.352)
We'll have to wait and see. We'll definitely have to wait and see.

I don't know. I don't know how many more episodes of this we have. Do you? It didn't say, well, no, this was 11. This was 11. So when we know next week we're gonna see Wendy's mom explode, maybe we'll have 13 and then the reunion, maybe two more.

Kelli (36:11.329)
Well, this was only 12, right? So, I mean...

Kelli (36:27.778)
They don't have any trips coming up, right? They didn't go on a trip, did they? they went to, they did, they went to Grenada, is that where they went? No.

Wendy (36:31.487)
yeah, yeah, yeah, they did. They went through. Yeah.

Yeah, Grenada, yep. Yeah, Grenada, yeah.

Kelli (36:40.608)
Yeah, so I guess I mean, I feel like that's not a lot of episodes, though.

Wendy (36:46.762)
No, that's about what they've been doing. It's so funny, they all vary, but it's not uncommon to get 13 episodes. I guess we'll have to wait and see. don't know. Nobody tells me. They don't tell me what's going on.

Kelli (36:53.538)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, Beverly Hills doesn't have any cat fighting right now, so that's good.

Wendy (37:04.394)
Well, the only catfighting really is between Kyle and Doree.

Kelli (37:09.034)
Yeah. Yeah. It's not the same.

Wendy (37:10.69)
But it's not the same. It's not the same, though. It's not the same, because it's...

These women are vicious. they're... The Kyle and Dorit fighting is because they were really friends and they're hurt. Do you know what I'm saying? Like I think it's because it was a true friendship. Right.

Kelli (37:29.836)
Right, right, yeah. And they've both been on a long time. It's not like somebody came in new and that old, the old one is, you know.

Wendy (37:38.198)
And right, and they went after them.

Right, right, it's a totally different thing. And listen, I think that, and as much as I said when we did Beverly Hills, I'm team Kyle, but there's many people that are team Doreen. The fact that they are real friends and that they're really hurt, which is why they're fighting, like it's just different. It's just, it's more real, like it's real.

Kelli (38:02.892)
Yeah.

It is more real and remember Kyle came out and said, well, we weren't that close.

Wendy (38:11.456)
Well, and again, when she said that, like that's one of the things, did something just happen over there?

Kelli (38:16.556)
Did you hear that car?

Wendy (38:18.766)
I heard, yeah, I did hear it. I'm so used to hearing that. It happens all the time around here, this neighborhood.

Kelli (38:21.59)
Yeah.

Kelli (38:25.666)
I haven't heard it in a while. I haven't heard it in a while. So that kind of like, it literally sounded like it was right outside my window, the car. And I just got nervous because there's so much ice on the ground.

Wendy (38:37.926)
yeah, that's true. Kyle said that, remember back when Kyle said, you we weren't that close?

We kind of said that Dorit had a different idea of what the friendship was than Kyle did, right? Isn't that what we had decided? Like Kyle thought the friendship was different than Dorit did? Because I don't know though. I mean...

I don't know, like I don't, you know, the fact that even, I don't know why we're talking about this now, that, because I brought it up, they didn't talk the whole time that they weren't filming. Kyle and Dorit didn't talk while they weren't filming. Like that's not a real friend. Well,

Kelli (39:24.856)
Isn't that hard to believe though? Because PK and Mo, like they were both still married at the time and PK and Mo were close. I just saw a thing, I did see a thing on Facebook. Remember the scene this season where they, I don't know what Jewish holiday they were celebrating, but they were all at Kyle's and it must have been.

Kelli (39:54.221)
Was it Passover? Because they were talking about the Maccabees. Is that Hanukkah or Passover? I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude. I really can't think because I do know this. do know this. The Maccabees, that's what I mean. I'm drawing a blank, but I know this. No, it's Hanukkah. It's Hanukkah. And Dorit's son was doing the saying the prayer. And so somebody put a picture of that on Facebook and was like back when Kyle and Dorit weren't really good friends.

Wendy (39:54.712)
Was it Hanukkah? could be.

Wendy (40:04.086)
What are the Maccabees?

Wendy (40:18.403)
yeah, yeah.

Kelli (40:24.056)
I mean it was filmed for the show so who knows it is hard to believe because I thought Doritza they went on vacation together Who knows? I mean yeah

Wendy (40:30.413)
Right, right.

Wendy (40:35.682)
That's what Dorit said. Dorit said they did go on vacation together. And then Kyle said,

Kelli (40:40.162)
But did she mean while filming on the show or in the off season?

Wendy (40:45.664)
Yeah, like, I don't know. Like, that's the whole thing.

Kelli (40:47.81)
Cause if it's from filming on the show, yeah, then you went on vacation with Erica Girardi too.

Wendy (40:55.83)
No, but I think she said the families went on vacation, which, again, yeah, no, I think she said the families went on vacation.

Kelli (40:58.53)
That's what I thought.

I mean, I'm not going on vacation with somebody who I don't consider, well, we would never go on vacation because Eric doesn't like to vacation with other people. But I'm saying if we did, I wouldn't go unless I was really good friends with somebody.

Wendy (41:10.35)
I don't think Eric likes to vacation at all, does he? Does Eric like to vacation at all?

Kelli (41:18.816)
He likes to go on vacation, but he doesn't typically want to go with anybody else.

Wendy (41:20.504)
Does he? Yeah, and I don't blame him. I don't know that I want to go with other people either. Like, right now. That way don't know. Yeah, I don't know. You wouldn't go on vacation with someone that you aren't friends with. No. Not with, like, someone you know from the office? No, that would be weird.

Kelli (41:38.903)
Right. That's what I mean. So I don't know, whatever. Listen, we can't backpedal to, you know, we're not going to fit. I just feel like whatever happened between the two of them, Dorie and Kyle, they're just having a really hard time bouncing back from. And it's just kind of at the place where it's like, it's never going back to where it was. So you just kind of need to figure out how you're going to move forward.

Wendy (41:44.227)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (42:06.934)
No, I agree with you. I totally agree.

Kelli (42:07.48)
and stop trying to rehash what's happened.

Wendy (42:11.02)
Right, no, I totally agree. And somebody said on Watch What Happens Live that, so the fight that they had, I think Erica was involved in it too, it was on a trip and it's at the end of the season. So we have to wait all season to see this fight and they're still not talking.

So it's gonna be a doozy and I don't know. I can't imagine what it's about, but I'll have to wait and see.

Kelli (42:32.92)
Yeah.

Kelli (42:37.002)
It's probably got something to do with PK, I'm sure, and Kyle defending him or her thinking Kyle defended him.

Wendy (42:43.79)
that's what I wanted to say. PK, it was on Watch What Happens Live, because I did finally watch it with Doree, that PK got Boy George, like Boy George is taking PK's side. Yeah, which, you know, I

Kelli (42:51.468)
Me too.

Kelli (42:58.56)
Yeah. And he hasn't even reached out to her.

Wendy (43:03.99)
Which is sad, but I mean, it's typical though.

Kelli (43:07.072)
It's sad, and it is typical, but there's kids involved and he had to be close with their children, I would imagine.

Wendy (43:12.32)
Mm-hmm. I would imagine so too, but it seems like although we don't know because we're only getting Dory's side, doesn't seem that PK is that close with the children either. So how close could boy George be if PK isn't that close with his own children?

Kelli (43:27.136)
Yeah, I am curious to see how this Florida trip turns out with her parents.

Wendy (43:33.952)
Yeah. So watch what happens live. She was there with Zoe Deschanel. And did you see, like, they were trying to figure out, like, somebody for which... And Dorit was like, I don't know them. No. Like, she... And Andy's like, well, maybe you're not ready. And she's like, no, no, I am ready. I just... Like, I don't want to just see a picture and be like, yes, this is my person. want to... Well, obviously, like, look at PK. Like, it's not...

Kelli (44:00.767)
Exactly.

Wendy (44:02.074)
It's not like she looked at a picture of PK and said, my gosh, this is the man for me. Right? You know what I'm saying? I just kind of laughed when I saw her do that. Right?

Kelli (44:05.43)
I have to have him. Exactly.

yeah. Yeah. What do they say? He outkicked his coverage? He outkicked his coverage.

Wendy (44:15.863)
he sure did. He sure did. Listen, I hope she finds somebody that makes her happy. I want her to be happy.

Kelli (44:21.194)
I thought she was dating someone. Like, I thought she was on her Instagram with someone.

Wendy (44:26.038)
I guess not because not according to, I mean, it was a recent Watch What Happens Live. I mean, maybe she went out with somebody once or maybe she was photographed with someone, like, I don't know. Like, it doesn't seem like she's, she's single. It seems like she's single.

Kelli (44:39.148)
Right, right. Well, hopefully she had a hot girl summer.

Wendy (44:43.95)
There you go. All right, I don't have anything else to you.

Kelli (44:51.23)
No. No.

Wendy (44:52.78)
Until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (44:59.022)
Bye.