RHOP-Karen’s in the Clink, and the Lies are in Sync

Wendy (00:01.162)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy. We are talking about Real Housewives of Potomac, Season 10, Episode Number 1, Second Bloom. Worst name for an episode and party I've ever heard.

Kelli (00:04.136)
I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:16.957)
Agreed. Stupid concept for a party. I don't even know what the hell she's talking about when she explains it. I don't follow, I'm not following.

Wendy (00:20.268)
Yep.

Wendy (00:26.062)
I understand what she's talking about, but it's We'll get there. We start out on September 2nd, 2025 at 510 a.m. at the Montgomery County Central Processing Unit. And this is when Karen's being released from prison. And she's in the back of the vehicle. The windows are dark, so we don't really see her, but she must be mic'd because we hear her voice and she asks for tissues repeatedly.

I think it's very odd. Like, did we really need that scene? Was it that dramatic?

Kelli (00:58.535)
No, I remember there was something about her glam though. Like did she get glam in the jail before she left? Okay.

Wendy (00:59.693)
Right?

Wendy (01:05.736)
No, no, no. She was in that car that you couldn't see her. no, she went someplace before she went home.

Kelli (01:12.831)
Getting glam?

she went somewhere to get her glam before she went home.

Wendy (01:19.948)
Yes, before she went home. So then we see six months earlier, Karen was sentenced to one year in jail for her DUI crash, March 1st, 2025. Two days after her sentence, Giselle invites some of the ladies over to her place. it's Giselle and Ashley there first. And they're talking about, you know, is Karen going to be in Gen Pop? Is she going to be with murderers? And what did Giselle say?

Kelli (01:50.005)
She doesn't want her, is she in the elderly section?

Wendy (01:54.476)
Right, she's like, is there an elderly section in the prison? I think, I actually thought to myself, if I had to go to jail, I would want the AARP section as well. I don't want to be with those young thugs. I do, want to be in the scene. I want the senior discounts and I want to be in the scene.

Kelli (01:57.077)
That's so fucking shady. That's so shady.

Kelli (02:07.125)
You

Kelli (02:13.821)
You want to be in the senior section with the shuffleboard?

Wendy (02:21.672)
in your section. That's what I want. Yes. Yes. I mean, if I did smoke for me, it would be, I'd be trading for Oreos. That's my advice. Yes. So Giselle and Ash, so you're talking about the Stacey and TJ situation. They believe that she paid him. I don't care either. They don't really care.

Kelli (02:26.237)
If you have to trade like for cigarettes, you want that discount.

Kelli (02:34.997)
I need some chocolate

Kelli (02:47.391)
which I could care less about anymore. I don't care.

Wendy (02:52.29)
Nope, do not care at all. Wendy and Kiana show up and this is the first time Wendy's actually been inside Giselle's home. She's been there before but only allowed on the outside.

Kelli (03:03.445)
So funny, I totally forgot about that. When you saw Kiana, were you surprised to see her back?

Wendy (03:11.534)
No, not necessarily. I actually had no idea who was coming back. I had no idea.

Kelli (03:17.937)
I don't know why Kiana's back. She must have threatened to sue them when Ashley's friend, you know, physically assaulted her. That's the only thing I can think of. She brought nothing to the table last year, and not only is she not bringing anything yet to the table this year, she's pissing me off with Wendy. But we will get there too.

Wendy (03:38.86)
Yeah. there, Stacey arrives next, but before Stacey arrives, Giselle is telling the ladies, she starts to tell them about, know, that she thinks that the TJ story is true. And as she's walking in, we hear this very loud belch, which I thought was just strange. Like, why would they even put that on camera? But later on in the episode,

Giselle and Ashley keep commenting about her breath being bad.

Kelli (04:13.173)
And even that new girl did too, Angel. Like she co-signed it.

Wendy (04:15.614)
Yes. And I will say to you, I think that's horrible. I mean, yes, bad breath is horrible too, but to call somebody out on that, like...

Kelli (04:27.637)
Well, the thing is, is that some people, it's like a problem that they can't control. And I don't know if you, like this clocked with you, but Anna on Anna's podcast, she was talking about somebody who has veneers and she said something about veneer breath. I had never heard of it before. And she said there is a distinct smell and it's not good when people have veneers. And I'm sure Stacey has veneers. She was on QVC, crying out loud for crying out loud or.

whatever, home shopping network. She probably has veneers and that might be the issue. But some people really have a chronic problem.

Wendy (05:05.14)
Well, I looked it up after this to see like what is the story. So one of the things that does cause, you know, bad breath is a medical condition, GERD, which would explain the belching to be quite honest with you. So that's when I was like, that's probably why production left it in because they knew that the whole bad breath thing was going to come up. Like, I don't know.

Kelli (05:15.379)
Yes. Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

Kelli (05:29.737)
Right, how horrible though.

Wendy (05:32.139)
It is horrible, it's absolutely horrible. It's so shady.

Kelli (05:34.933)
I'll tell you what, when I got done with this show, I thought, these women do not know how to treat other women. This show is so anti-women empowerment, it's disgusting. They do not raise women up. They do the opposite. This show, this franchise, I think more so than any other one.

Wendy (05:42.678)
No.

Wendy (05:59.402)
I do agree with you on that. mean, know, Giselle is the queen bee, right? And her and Ashley are thick as thieves. So those two together are fine, but everybody else is just like... It's, yeah. I know, I know.

Kelli (06:04.693)
Of course.

Mm-hmm.

Kelli (06:14.719)
They're the worst, you know, they're the most guilty parties of it.

Wendy (06:20.886)
They are, it starts from the top, it goes from there on down and the other ones are just kind of trying to keep up with them.

Kelli (06:23.027)
Yep. Yep. Exactly. Exactly.

Wendy (06:28.14)
It's unfortunate to be honest with you. They're talking about Karen, know, what she's going through, you know, the fact that she's gonna have to shower in front of everybody. They're worried about that. They say that they're worried about Raven and Ray. Giselle believes that she needs accountability, but she didn't necessarily think she needed to go to jail. I actually think the jail was a good thing for her. I it's only six months.

Kelli (06:51.643)
Yeah, I'm and I mean Giselle did bring up the fact that it's her fourth DUI So maybe this will prevent a fifth which I mean listen you can pray we got to pray because She got so lucky that she didn't hurt anybody

Wendy (07:02.402)
Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. Ashley's asking Stacey what's going on with her and TJ after the reunion and Stacey's still maintaining that she never paid TJ a dime. Ashley's like, well, I don't know why TJ would want to come up. Why would he come up with a retraction?

You know, he already put his receipts, he's already said on Instagram he was gonna put his receipts out. Like, what are you saying? Like, he never has put his receipts out. He never has.

Kelli (07:35.423)
But he never has, right?

No he has not. He's had a year to do it.

Wendy (07:42.06)
Yeah.

Kelli (07:43.702)
I mean, listen, if he's really in litigation, maybe his lawyer told him not to, but proof is proof. And you posting some kind of transaction on your social media, it's not gonna, you I don't think, I don't know for sure, but it's not gonna make it so you can't use it as an exhibit, I don't think.

Wendy (08:05.782)
I would, I wouldn't either, but we'll have to.

Kelli (08:07.657)
Like all you have to do is, you know, we've MMO each other all the time for stuff. Wendy Evigan just sent you a MMO. Just something as simple as that. He's never even posted that.

Wendy (08:14.339)
Right.

Wendy (08:18.284)
Right, nothing, nothing.

Yeah, so, Kiana said, I've been trying to get on the show. Kiana's telling Stacey, you've been trying to get on the show for a long time. And Stacey's like, well, I've been on TV for a long time. Like, I didn't need to get on the show. Listen, I mean, yes, she was on QVC. There's, I believe she was fired from QVC. Like, that's what people talk about. That's what the word on the street is, as Giselle would put it, is that she was fired from QVC.

Kelli (08:45.302)
really?

Kelli (08:51.07)
Okay.

Wendy (08:53.07)
And supposedly it's very hard to get fired from QVC. I don't know. I don't know if that's true or not. But who wouldn't want to get on the show? And like, what does that even prove? Right? Like, what does...

Kelli (08:56.437)
That's funny.

Kelli (09:05.659)
Yeah, I hate it when they even bring that stuff up because whether or not she was trying, the producers liked something about her and they put her on the show. I'm sure there are thousands of women trying to get on these franchises that don't. So something was appealing about her. She probably didn't have to threaten to sue like Kiana, because I'm convinced that's what she did.

Wendy (09:18.336)
Exactly.

Yes. Yes.

Kelli (09:33.109)
Because there is no reason this girl should be on this show. Absolutely not.

Wendy (09:39.788)
Yeah, so Stacey really doesn't wanna, you she doesn't wanna keep talking about this. She's like, she was really hurt by TJ. She's like, you know, I'm not the first woman to be hurt by a man. And she's like, if you're gonna question me every time we're together now, Giselle's like, well, accountability is what this group is all about. And Stacey gets up and she walks out. She's like, okay, well, maybe I do need to reconsider, you know? If this is all we're gonna talk about every time I see you, maybe, you know, this isn't the group for me.

Kelli (10:09.961)
I find it very rich that Giselle and Ashley are the ones that are trying to hold someone accountable. Giselle faked reuniting with her ex-husband as a storyline and was called out on it. And it was proven, it was a lie. Ashley, it was 100 % a lie. Monique brought out those text messages where he's telling some woman that he's just doing it for the show.

Wendy (10:28.41)
it was? I didn't know that.

Wendy (10:38.958)
that's right. That's right. That's right. That's right.

Kelli (10:39.049)
He was dating his now wife.

Ashley was married to a bisexual man who was clearly into men as much as women going back to season one where he did something inappropriate to Katie's then husband or boyfriend and denies that. I mean, these women are complete jokes and they're trying to hold Stacey accountable? And listen, I...

Wendy (11:05.71)
Stacey. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (11:09.235)
Like we said, we don't even care. Who gives a shit about TJ? He was the most awkward person on any Real Housewives show to date. I'm glad he's gone. Let's move on.

Wendy (11:16.046)
He really was. Me too. Me too. Me too. But then they bring up Giselle and Ashley were in LA two days prior and they sat down with this actress who is the happens to be the best friend of TJ. And she came with receipts and that Stacey was supposed to give 50 % of her salary to him. What?

I mean, who in their right mind would give 50 % of their salary to, I mean, that makes no sense.

Kelli (11:46.035)
Now, if this.

Kelli (11:52.648)
And if this is true, and there is some kind of proof out there that she's sharing a screenshot, why haven't we seen it?

All this shit gets put online. It's just a pleading. If it's filed in the court of law, we can see it. Somebody would have found it by now. It's public record.

Wendy (12:14.412)
Yeah, I would think so.

Kelli (12:15.871)
She doesn't just have it because TJ's her best friend. If he filed something, it would be public record and somebody could have found it by now. The producers most certainly could have found it. And they've known about this for months because they knew about it when this was filmed.

Wendy (12:24.686)
Absolutely.

Wendy (12:30.07)
Right, yeah. I mean, this was back in March. yeah. So then we see, I guess they actually start filming two months later, May 1st, 2025 is the actual start of their filming. And we see Wendy's talking to Rhonda, her interior designer and happy Eddie and her kids are there.

Kelli (12:34.917)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (12:55.886)
And she's talking about her remodel with the designer and how she wants to switch things up. I like these scenes. like when, first of like when we get to see Happy Eddie. I like when we see her kids. I like her kids. Wendy said in her confessional that Happy Eddie is doing very well financially. they're good. They can pick and choose what they want to do.

Kelli (13:07.315)
Of course. Yep.

Kelli (13:18.836)
Yes.

Kelli (13:24.745)
which is awesome. Yep, I am too.

Wendy (13:25.814)
That is awesome, I'm happy for them. We see Gisele's out to lunch with her friend Cal. mean, Cal's been around a long time. Yep, Ashley and her friends and stylists are cleaning out her closet for Donate Pile. All right, didn't need to see that. But the next scene I liked, Stacey walks into this Indian restaurant.

Kelli (13:34.773)
Season one.

Kelli (13:50.411)
real quick, I'm sorry. Did you notice though in that scene was that friend that she brought on Love Island? Remember we were like, we never saw this guy before. He was in that scene.

Wendy (13:58.612)
no! I didn't notice that. Okay, no, I missed that.

Kelli (14:01.673)
Yeah.

I forget his name, but he was in that. I'm almost positive that was him. It was a white guy, right? It was a white guy. Yeah.

Wendy (14:06.926)
No, he probably was. probably was. just missed it. Uh, yes. Yes.

Stacey walks into the Indian restaurant and meets with this very tall man that she's very happy to see and We find out that that is the aunt the ammo. I don't know how to pronounce his name her ex-husband. Timo, okay Okay, I didn't hear her say his name Okay, no Timo, okay

Kelli (14:25.887)
I thought she called him Timo. I think that's what she called him.

Not Tee-moo. Tee-moo.

Wendy (14:39.447)
I was very surprised to see him because we had never seen him before. Right. mean,

Kelli (14:47.303)
No, we did not see him.

Wendy (14:50.454)
So then she gets.

Kelli (14:51.157)
I don't know how I feel about this. kind of feel like this is fake too. Yeah, I hope it's not for their daughter's sake. Like I always like to see people reunite even after they've been divorced. But you I don't know. You know what the problem is? Because of last season, not that I want to hear about last season, I feel like it is hard to believe Stacey.

Wendy (14:55.714)
That's what that's what people are saying they think it's fake.

Wendy (15:16.141)
Right.

Kelli (15:21.055)
But I don't wanna see all the other girls come at her all season because of it. Like prove to us that this is authentic. Like I'm willing to give her the season to like prove that this is authentic and this is for real. And they should too.

Wendy (15:25.772)
Right.

Wendy (15:35.66)
Well, how do you prove it though? Like how do you actually prove it? Because

Kelli (15:39.955)
I think we'll figure it out as it goes on. mean, it didn't take very long to figure out that the whole TJ thing was not.

Wendy (15:44.076)
I mean, yes, that's true. We knew that immediately. We knew it immediately, the first time they were together, right? So what she says in her confessionals, she's like, as crazy as this sounds, like they decided to go on Christmas vacation together as a family and actually, you know, for the sake of their daughter, while they were away on vacation, they got notified that they were officially divorced. Coincidentally, I guess.

Kelli (15:48.722)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (16:13.141)
Hmm.

Wendy (16:13.498)
And while on vacation, they just looked at each other and decided that maybe we should just give this another try. I mean, I do think that that's interesting, especially when Ashley brings up later, like there's no divorce, but I mean, he's from another country. I don't know. Like I think that there's more to it than that. Like you don't know where he filed for, like how do you know where he filed for divorce?

Kelli (16:38.409)
Right, well, it should be in the state documents. Like Ashley said, there's nothing filed in the state of Virginia. But, like you said, who knows? Maybe they got married in his country. Or maybe they're not married. Maybe they never got married. You know what I mean? I mean, that would prove that she's a liar even more so, but I don't know.

Wendy (16:50.86)
Right.

Wendy (16:59.958)
Yeah, but she had moved back to Potomac, right? Like just before filming, right? So maybe they got married in Pennsylvania and they were already separated. So maybe that's, maybe it's in another state. Just because they live there now, like, I don't, I don't know. I don't, I don't know exactly how it works to be honest with you. Obviously I've never filed for divorce, so I don't have any idea, you know, but.

Kelli (17:07.049)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (17:12.708)
right, right.

Kelli (17:17.459)
Right, that's true.

Wendy (17:29.09)
I'm just saying there is, there are reasons that you can't find the divorce documents. Like if she's telling you she's divorced, I mean, can you take that for face value? Like why do you have to question everything?

Kelli (17:34.965)
Sure.

Kelli (17:41.59)
And not for nothing, Ashley, but you're no brain surgeon. Just because you say you can't find a filed pleading in the state of Virginia, okay, that doesn't mean that you did your due diligence and checked everywhere. I'm sure she's got people doing things for her, but just because you say it doesn't make it true.

Wendy (17:46.883)
Yeah.

Wendy (17:52.865)
Right.

Wendy (17:58.336)
Right. Right.

Wendy (18:03.564)
I totally agree with you. mean, like, come on. It's not like you're the brain of the... Right. Actually, I wonder what her maiden name is. Because it was, you know, Michael's Darby. I wonder what her maiden name is. But I did think it was a little odd what she said. She asked him, like, why he started sending her e-vites. Okay, that's a little weird.

Kelli (18:07.696)
Like you're Ashley Darby.

Kelli (18:27.263)
Well, especially his answer, he was like, I thought it was weird to call you. Why? Why?

Wendy (18:31.916)
Write or text you. Wait, why would that be weird? I think the e-vite's a weird thing.

Kelli (18:38.549)
Yeah, like, eVites are very, like, 2005, right?

Wendy (18:43.968)
Yes. Yeah, I thought that, I I mean, does it have like hearts and flowers on it? Like, it, is it like the beautiful?

Kelli (18:46.343)
I don't know.

Kelli (18:50.161)
Right, like is it one of those ones that you open up and like the doves fly out? yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe, yeah. Maybe he's trying to be romantic and throw it back. Like instead of, you know, snail mail, he's doing e-vites.

Wendy (18:53.838)
Yes, yes. I mean, well, that would be special. Like, I mean, maybe that's what it is. I don't know. I don't know.

Wendy (19:08.022)
Yeah. I mean, the other thing was they were still living together in the house before when they were in the process of divorce. So I imagine that they're still living in the house together, right?

Kelli (19:21.257)
Right, right, so does she still, does she still, like, you can't just, when you're on your way to the bathroom, be like, would you like to go to dinner tonight? You have to send an email? Do you tell her on your way to the bathroom, like, hey, check your email.

Wendy (19:28.302)
Exactly.

Wendy (19:36.974)
Check, check, check,

Kelli (19:38.997)
You may or may not have plans tonight. Check your email.

Wendy (19:46.208)
I don't know. think, I don't know. I'm here to find out what happens though. And I'm going to give her the benefit of doubt.

Kelli (19:52.255)
I am too, and mostly because Giselle and Ashley are coming so hard for her.

Wendy (19:56.992)
Yeah. And the other thing is the fact that she said they just told their daughter that they were getting a divorce. Because the whole last season, her daughter didn't know. And now they tell her and now they're divorced and now they're going to get back together. That's very confusing.

Kelli (20:11.357)
Yeah, she does seem a little off her rocker. I'm not going to lie. She definitely seems a little off her rocker. But I loved when she said we should write a book and he was like, there's plenty of books out there. We probably should have just read one. That was so funny.

Wendy (20:14.254)
You

Wendy (20:26.062)
That was good. That was good. So the next thing we see is Kiana's new condo. So she moved out of Greg's place and her mom Michelle is there. I think the place is really nice. Yes, her mother is gorgeous. Yes.

Kelli (20:40.937)
Her mother is gorgeous.

I'm like, that's her mother? Like, literally could pass for her sister.

Wendy (20:48.864)
Yeah, no, mean, guess maybe her mom was very young when she had her, but she's, yes, she does. So she moved out of Gre- you know, at the reunion, they, kind of knew that it was over because Gregg really didn't want her filming. And I'll be honest with you, I don't really think Gregg really bought that much to the table anyway. I think she was better off without him. Like she was successful on her own.

Kelli (20:53.809)
She still looks young, yeah.

Kelli (21:13.215)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (21:14.986)
So after she moved out three months later and she moved into this new place, then all of a sudden he decides to, you know, call her up and say, well, you want to go to Jamaica with me and maybe we can talk about, you know, talk about us. And she's like, yeah, sure. I don't know. Like why? Why?

Kelli (21:35.733)
I mean, I get it. You were in a long-term relationship. That's a hard decision to make. But she said he got his shit together. He was probably like, oh damn, she's serious. And he asks you to go on vacation. Obviously you're gonna go. You're not over him yet. You're certainly not into anybody else yet. I get it, I get it.

Wendy (21:59.596)
She said that she's in therapy and she really wanted to, you know, set the tone for what she wanted from her life. So, I mean, I hope she's really made it clear to him, like, what she expects, but I don't, first of all, I don't think her mother's really on board with this.

Kelli (22:15.699)
No, does not seem it at all.

Wendy (22:17.772)
And I don't blame her. don't blame her. think that, you know, I think that she's a strong independent woman and she could do this all on her own. I don't think she needs Greg, but she may have to figure that out herself.

Kelli (22:27.689)
Right. I think so, and I think she'll probably get there.

Wendy (22:32.78)
Yeah.

Kelli (22:36.979)
My next line is very exciting that Happy Eddie is expanding to Jersey.

Wendy (22:41.158)
Yes. So you know what? looked up his website today too. So it's just his product and it's distributed in many dispensaries.

Kelli (22:54.494)
he doesn't have his own dispensary.

Wendy (22:56.202)
He does not have his own dispensary. It is his product. It's like Vena. It's honestly like Tamra's. You know, it's in other places. Although I don't know that Vena isn't. Maybe it is. I don't know if hers is. But his is in dispensaries. I, because that's what I thought too. I thought, he's opening up a place in New Jersey. So let me look up on his website. No, he's, he is, or maybe he even may be setting a processing, you know, a place to.

Kelli (23:03.399)
Okay.

Kelli (23:14.421)
That's what I thought, yeah.

Wendy (23:24.278)
manufacturer in Jersey, but he he's he's the manufacturer. It's his product. Yeah.

Kelli (23:25.93)
Yeah.

Kelli (23:29.555)
I'm excited. I'm not a partaker in that, but I have people who will be very happy to sample Happy Eddie and report back.

Wendy (23:41.728)
Yes. Her daughter said she wants to be a doctor just like Wendy. And the kids are like, mom's not a doctor. What? And then her one son said that he doesn't want to follow in his father's footsteps. He wants to work for Chick-fil-A. I'm like, I wonder if they have a brand partnership with Chick-fil-A now.

Kelli (23:50.389)
This is so funny. They're like, what?

Kelli (24:01.727)
Check the-

Kelli (24:06.997)
thought the same thing. I thought the same damn thing.

Wendy (24:12.014)
And then there's the rumor out there still about Stacey opening up her own line of marijuana products.

Kelli (24:22.239)
They don't seem very bothered by it. And like, should they be bothered by it?

Wendy (24:27.822)
I would say no. think the only thing to be bothered by about it would be the fact that Giselle called it out on the reunion and Stacey denied it. And I do think that it's, I think that it is true. So then.

Kelli (24:38.25)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:43.753)
Yeah, if she denied it and then she really does it, then that's messed up. But, know, Wendy started a candle line after Karen Huger had a candle line. I don't care how many, or was it vice versa?

Wendy (24:54.71)
Yes, that is true, but.

No, was, Karen was mentoring Wendy with the cancel line.

Kelli (25:05.214)
Yikes.

Wendy (25:06.454)
Yes, and Karen had a three-wick.

Kelli (25:09.171)
Yes, it did come down to wicks. The number of wicks.

Wendy (25:11.328)
Yes, Karen said yes. But Wendy did say imitation is the greatest form of flattery, which I kind of agree with, you know? Just, yeah, so yeah, just own it. That's all just own it, right?

Kelli (25:19.903)
So color me pink.

Kelli (25:25.095)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Wendy (25:27.776)
So then we see Ashley goes to a boutique and Gilda, the boutique owner is there and Stacey comes in to meet with her because she's looking for her dress for the second bloom ball and it's for her after divorce being finalized. So this is what the second bloom is. It's her second bloom in life. Her first bloom was when she got married to Michael Darby and she had two children. Now that she's divorced, she's going to bloom again into the new Ashley.

I mean, this is what she's telling us. I'm like, okay.

Kelli (26:03.061)
I'm not a fan of this Ashley, so hopefully she blooms into a better version. Yeah.

Wendy (26:07.212)
That would be good.

Ashley immediately brings up like last time I saw you, know, things got a little bit tense. You know, I wish you wouldn't have left, but I want to understand like why you did. And then she goes on to explain that, you know, she was at the Essence lunch in, Essence of Black Women in Hollywood lunch in where this woman that was there, her and Giselle, and she provided with receipts and documents that there is a lawsuit and there's court documents where

she was named as a defendant and he was named as the plaintiff. Well, Stacy says, you know, to ask, do you want to know the truth? And as she says, I do. And Stacy says, I've forgiven TJ. What? Like, And he has gone on with his life and I'm in a completely different space. Like, okay.

Kelli (26:55.615)
She's not gonna talk about it. I don't know why they keep spinning their wheels.

Wendy (27:08.512)
really wasn't the question, but okay.

Kelli (27:10.569)
Right. Did you notice the woman standing behind the counter sipping her champagne watching every second of this? It was so funny. They flashed to her. This is what drives me crazy though. Are we really gonna keep talking about this? Meanwhile, your friend Robin, her ex-husband who she was supposedly still with was swinging his dick around to anybody who would have it. She maintained for years that that's not what was going on.

Wendy (27:16.279)
no, I did not. I did not. That's so funny.

Kelli (27:41.344)
Giselle knew damn well what was going on. They all covered up for it. I'm sure at some point Ashley covered up for it. But really we're gonna still keep going after this girl for supposedly paying some guy to be her boyfriend last year? mean, Kenya Moore did that years ago. She's not the first one. She's probably not gonna be the last. Like, let it go.

Wendy (28:01.762)
Right, yep.

Kelli (28:04.703)
Let it go.

Wendy (28:06.1)
Ashley then asks her if she is actually divorced and Stacey said she is divorced and Ashley said well why is it not in any database? And listen I don't blame her for walking out again because why she doesn't owe Ashley any explanation for any of this.

Kelli (28:20.681)
No!

Kelli (28:26.483)
No, and Ashley says, have validation and proof. Where? You saying you saw something is not validating and proof to us. And what you saw could have been manufactured as well.

Wendy (28:35.275)
No.

Wendy (28:39.884)
Right. Yep. Yep.

Kelli (28:42.099)
I just...

Wendy (28:46.028)
So Stacey leaves and we don't even know if she's gonna go to the bloom party, but the next thing we see is Giselle is walking around her house and she's happy to be an empty nester. And we find out a typical day for her is working out and she's working on all her projects, her GNA and her unreasonably shady podcast. I actually, I haven't even seen her podcast maybe because I just don't follow it. That's probably it.

Kelli (29:14.825)
I've never listened to it one time.

Wendy (29:16.906)
I used to listen to it a long time ago. I stopped listening a long time ago.

Kelli (29:20.211)
I just, never liked Robin from right out the gate. I never liked her, so I couldn't sit through that.

Wendy (29:26.606)
Then we see Kiana goes over to a new housewife, Angel's house, and she's there with her husband, a former NFL player?

Kelli (29:39.601)
No, he, yes, yes, yes, I'm sorry, the Broncos. Yes, Denver Broncos, yes. He was pretty fine, wasn't he? Yeah, he was real good looking.

Wendy (29:40.62)
What is he, NFL, right? Yes, Broncos, that's right. Former Denver, exactly. Yeah, yeah.

and her father's there and also her son. We find out that Kiana's been friends with Angel for about 20 years. So she's actually a real friend, which I like. I like it when it's a real friend. So maybe this is why Kiana's still there. Because they had to bring in two new people because they lost Mia and they lost Karen. So you want to kind of bring in people that are gonna work with the

Kelli (30:02.367)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (30:09.759)
Yeah.

Wendy (30:19.864)
people that are already there.

Kelli (30:21.513)
Yeah, no, you're right. And the fact that this woman had some kind of connection to Wendy was interesting. At this point in the show, I am not missing Mia and I'm not missing Karen.

Wendy (30:27.21)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (30:37.966)
No, agree. I mean, I'm definitely not missing Mia.

Kelli (30:38.217)
I thought that to myself. Like, yeah, I didn't miss them at all.

I mean talk about somebody who was just lie after lie after lie like that poor man Jay like He is probably fit as a fiddle. His mind is probably 100 % and he was just playing along with her elderly bipolar storyline, right?

Wendy (31:04.654)
I wouldn't put it past him. I really wouldn't because that's who she is. Like she's, she's a manipulator. Yeah. Angel tells us that she is a mom entrepreneur, a journalist. And, the biggest misconception about her is that, she's a bitch because she has a really good resting bitch face. I thought that was funny. she owns her and her husband own,

Kelli (31:06.794)
yeah. Yeah. Right.

Kelli (31:29.769)
We know a couple of people like that.

Wendy (31:34.486)
a business in Colorado is called Wonderland Outdoors. And they're opening up new location in Maryland. And she's originally from that area, Maryland area. And now she's coming back. And that's when she knew Kiarna from. And...

She, what else?

Kelli (31:55.51)
They provide luxurious outings like fishing, meditating, horseback riding, know, upper, you know, upper scale. And she said that meditating, yeah, expensive, helps her not be so reactive to stressful situations. I think I'm gonna have to look into this meditation stuff. Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (31:58.166)
Yes.

Wendy (32:05.622)
Yeah, expensive.

Wendy (32:16.05)
Yeah, yeah, I think that's a great idea. I think we all should. So she knows Ashley, they start talking about, she was her bottle girl once, so she knows Ashley. And that was great. And listen, I'll tell you what right now, Ashley would not even take offense to that. I'm sure, I mean, right. I mean, and she was a proud bottle girl. That's probably how she met Michael.

Kelli (32:30.975)
That was fantastic.

Kelli (32:38.762)
How could she? You did it.

Kelli (32:43.635)
Yeah, I would bet my life savings on it.

Wendy (32:47.758)
Right? It served her well. It served her well. And then Angel, we hear, knows Wendy from college. Wendy was roommates with her college big sister. So she was obviously older than her. He honest said, Wendy has treated her in a certain way on and off camera. And I'm like, when she made that statement, I was like, what is she talking about?

Kelli (32:51.03)
Dead. It sure did.

Kelli (33:18.206)
Nonsense.

Wendy (33:19.596)
Because even when she sits down and talks to Wendy about it, still don't really, it makes no sense to me. what she's making.

Kelli (33:27.231)
Because it's nonsense. It's some made up bullshit so she can be relevant. I really believe that. I think she came into this season like, shit, I better have beef with somebody. She's not gonna go up against Ashley and Gisele because they're like a, you know, a power couple. But I don't know what she's thinking with Wendy because she'll pummel her. She'll pummel her.

Wendy (33:46.454)
I know, exactly. That's what I'm thinking. Like what is she thinking going after Wendy? I don't know. So then it's the day of Ashley's, but wait a second. yeah, don't meet. We don't meet her until the ball. It's the day of Ashley's second bloom ball and Kiana and Angela are on the way to the ball and Angela's excited to form her own opinion on the ladies. I really hope that that's true. I hate when new housewives come in and

Kelli (33:52.393)
Yeah.

Kelli (34:13.183)
Me too.

Wendy (34:16.706)
they already like are already on that other their friend's side. Like they don't even give the other housewives a chance. So I hope that she really means this.

Kelli (34:26.165)
Well, I do too, especially because she has a little bit of a history with Wendy. And Kiarna is making up some bullshit about Wendy. So we shall see.

Wendy (34:30.893)
Right.

Wendy (34:35.264)
Right. Yeah. I also wrote down that Kiana is wearing a crown again. really... Yeah, I wrote, really does like that crown. I don't know. I really don't know.

Kelli (34:43.921)
Again, I have the same thing written down.

Why is she constantly wearing a crown? This may have been one of Greg's issues with you.

Wendy (34:55.79)
What is with this crown? I know.

Kelli (34:58.453)
God, get the fucking crown off. What are you Burger King?

Wendy (35:04.622)
I know, I don't understand it. I don't understand it. So Giselle brings her friend Tia, we meet Tia for the first time, and she met her at a Sotheby's event. She said that she's a refined lady and they bonded over having twins. I think that's very interesting. Yes, and she is from London. Her family is part of the royal family.

Kelli (35:24.639)
Yeah, she's a high-end real estate agent.

Kelli (35:32.894)
in Nigeria.

Wendy (35:34.324)
Yes, but she's from London.

Kelli (35:36.245)
So wait a minute, isn't Wendy Nigerian?

Wendy (35:40.479)
Yes.

Kelli (35:41.887)
Okay.

Wendy (35:44.162)
Yes.

Kelli (35:45.011)
Yes, she grew up in London, I guess, but she did say her, I guess her family roots go back to Nigerian royalty. Yeah.

Wendy (35:51.192)
to Nigeria, right. And then we see Charisse is there. I know.

Kelli (35:55.83)
Why? Why? I don't want to see Charisse. Charisse is not happening. It's done. I just don't like her. I felt like she always came for Karen. I felt like she just, she always like, she just acted like she was so much higher than everybody else. I mean, I don't know. Maybe she did have more money than the rest of them, but she came off like an asshole.

Wendy (36:04.715)
Why don't you like Charisse? Why don't you like her?

Wendy (36:22.946)
actually, I mean, I don't know, I didn't necessarily have a problem with Charisse. And I actually think it would have been smart to bring her back this season since Karen wasn't going to be there. And I know Giselle has a like, I mean, Robin also and Giselle like they were really friends with Charisse. So I don't know. I don't know. I don't I didn't have a problem with her. All right.

Kelli (36:40.595)
Yes, yes.

Kelli (36:45.525)
don't need to see her.

I know, there's weird things with me. I can't even pinpoint why I don't like her. I just always felt, I never liked the way she came for Karen. Like Karen called herself the Grand Dame. Okay, who cares? That really bothered Charisse.

Wendy (37:03.33)
Because I think where that comes from is that the show really started because of Charisse. Like she was the first one cast and I think everyone was cast off of her.

Kelli (37:15.081)
Okay.

Wendy (37:16.322)
Kind of like the Salt Lake City Lisa Barlow thing, like the Salt Lake City really started because of Lisa Barlow.

Kelli (37:22.783)
Did it really? I didn't know that.

Wendy (37:24.51)
Yeah. yeah. Salt Lake City started because of Lisa Barlow.

Kelli (37:28.019)
And I didn't know that Potomac started because of Charisse.

Wendy (37:31.148)
Yes, yes. So I mean, that could be because then Karen came in, you know.

Kelli (37:39.541)
She kind of stole the show, Karen. But listen, this is what happens. You don't see it coming, but you know, it's always an ensemble cast, but sometimes some shine brighter than others. This is what happens.

Wendy (37:41.332)
Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right.

Wendy (37:53.42)
Yeah, that's true. Yep. So Stacey does actually show up to the event. Wendy sees Angel and says that she's a familiar face. She doesn't remember like specifically from Temple, but you know, she recognizes her face.

Kelli (38:11.231)
She does say, don't know her, which let's face it, ever since Mariah Carey said that on Watch What Happens Live, when you say that, it can be taken as an insult. So she probably should not have said that. But then she did say, but we're acquaintances, she's a familiar face, you know, but I'm wondering, but we didn't, we were not in the same circle, but I'm wondering if this is gonna become a thing that she said, I don't know her.

Wendy (38:22.253)
Right.

Wendy (38:29.088)
Right. Right.

Wendy (38:38.796)
I mean, probably, because that's what they do. They make something out of nothing, right?

Kelli (38:42.846)
You got it.

Wendy (38:48.386)
So Ashley then is announced as Duchess and Angel throws some shade from bottle girl to Duchess. I love a good come up story. I was like, my gosh.

Kelli (38:58.709)
I mean, was this Ashley's Kinsiera? Like, what is going on with the stairs and the sparklers and like, what are we doing?

Wendy (39:11.766)
I don't know. I really don't know. I don't. Right. Right. I mean, we've seen divorce parties before. We've seen them. Like other housewives have had divorce parties. This is not the first one we've seen. I mean, this may be the first one that looked like a quinceanera and you got a new title of duchess. What are you duchess of? I mean, what are you duchess of? It makes no sense.

Kelli (39:13.961)
You got divorced!

Kelli (39:26.375)
No, I mean, yeah, exactly.

Kelli (39:34.163)
Right, right. Is this a play on Grand Dame? Like is this trying to throw shade at Karen?

Wendy (39:40.878)
Oh, maybe. Maybe, Oh gosh. And then after that, then that's when Kiana goes up to Wendy and has a sit down with her, how she feels like she treats her one way on the show. And then when they're not on the show, her friendship with her is phony.

Kelli (40:03.381)
Okay, but hold on a minute. Wendy and Giselle are sitting there in the middle of a conversation and Kierna comes and sits down and just because Wendy did not acknowledge her right away, she says, okay, so you're being rude? No, bitch, you just sat down in the middle of someone else's conversation and started talking. That's rude, right? And then like.

Wendy (40:07.822)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (40:17.687)
Right.

Wendy (40:24.994)
Right.

Wendy (40:29.024)
Absolutely, absolutely.

Kelli (40:31.463)
She totally tried to turn it on Wendy. I'm like, what is this girl doing?

Wendy (40:36.8)
She went in there, she went into that conversation with an agenda and a chip on her shoulder. Like there was no way that this conversation was gonna go any other way than the way it went.

Kelli (40:43.167)
for sure.

Kelli (40:46.963)
Yeah, like how about you don't interrupt someone else's conversation?

Wendy (40:51.051)
Right.

Kelli (40:53.711)
None of this made sense. Then they were talking about the event and Wendy didn't, I understood what Wendy was saying. Like she was a sponsor. Wendy was giving her her moment. Like, hey, look at you, gassing her up. No, she didn't say she was presenting because she didn't want to take away from your moment. And then when you got there and she was on stage, you really want her to start waving like a five-year-old seeing their parents.

Wendy (41:05.954)
Right.

Wendy (41:13.559)
Right.

Wendy (41:19.949)
I'm tellin' them it.

Kelli (41:22.823)
off the school bus? I mean, come on.

Wendy (41:26.592)
Yeah, no, it was weird. It was very weird what she was expecting. It made no sense.

Kelli (41:32.327)
It made no sense.

Wendy (41:34.23)
And I think Wendy did a perfect job of explaining to her like what happened and you know what her reasons were. But she still didn't accept it. She didn't accept it.

Kelli (41:42.356)
Right.

Nope. No, because it's all nonsense. She's trying to have a moment. She's trying to create some fake beef.

Wendy (41:49.527)
Yeah.

Wendy (41:56.504)
Yeah, that's it. That's exactly what I think it is.

Kelli (41:57.812)
Wendy's too classy for that. It's gonna fall flat.

Wendy (42:01.6)
No, she definitely is. It's like, who has time for that? This is what gets me. Like, who has time for this? Even the whole Ashley and Giselle going after Stacey about the TJ. Like, is there nothing else going on in your lives that we can't have? seriously.

Kelli (42:18.153)
Well, it's just like the guys said yesterday when we did our pod with husbands watching Housewives. Like we wanna see you show us what you're doing in your life that makes you interesting enough to be a housewife. That's what we wanna see. We don't wanna see you trying to bring down another woman. And that I feel like this whole episode.

was that, was all of that. The whole episode was one woman trying to bring down another woman.

Wendy (42:47.309)
Yeah.

Wendy (42:51.094)
Yes. Yeah.

Wendy (42:55.862)
And then, you know, this is when Ashley brings it up to Stacey, you know, she said, you know, the one thing that gets me is that when you're going to lie to me, I mean, you know, your breath can stink and I can get past that.

Kelli (43:11.476)
Awful.

Wendy (43:12.564)
And then, you know, they just keep making comments again over and over about it. It's like, come on, seriously, come on.

Kelli (43:23.945)
And not only that, then she starts making fun of her shoe size and gallop away like insinuating she's a horse. It was just very, very middle school, very mean girl. Very, very mean girl. I just, I'm not, I'm so not into this.

Wendy (43:36.118)
Mean girl. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (43:46.581)
I mean, I'm still gonna watch it.

Wendy (43:48.404)
I know, I know. Listen, you know, then Stacey asks if she can talk to Ashley without Gisele there. And you know, she, she does. And Gisele's like all bent out of shape, but Gisele does get, you know, she does fire it up. She's like, I hope you can appreciate me showing up today because you know, I want you to know the things that are not true. As she said, well, something smells fishy. I'm not, now I'm thinking is.

Kelli (44:17.193)
Yeah. Right.

Wendy (44:17.622)
Is this another dig? Like, is this another dig? What are you hiding? Like, why are you hiding these things? And Stacey's like, my question is, why do you have to be so messy? And then that's when, you know, she brings up about the shoes, like you said. She's like, Ashley says, you're a full grown woman and you misrepresented yourself while she's pointing her finger at her. I was like, wait a second.

Kelli (44:46.247)
again.

Wendy (44:46.318)
You're telling her she's a full grown woman, but yet you're pointing your finger at her like she's a child.

Kelli (44:52.265)
Yep. And Ashley accusing anyone of misrepresenting themselves? Come on. It's a joke. They all have done it one time or another. They've all done it.

Wendy (44:59.415)
Yeah.

Wendy (45:05.186)
They all have done it. They all have done it. And then we start to, we see some, you know, coming, coming up this season and we do see a scene where Stacey says in New York, I lied. I'm like, God. Why couldn't we have that in the first scene? Like, I don't know. How far do we have to go into this season for her finally to admit that she lied so that they can move on? Like seriously.

Kelli (45:24.959)
never gonna happen.

Kelli (45:31.189)
Right, and like, are you, is she lying about the TJ thing? Is that what we think she's admitting? Yeah, so, right.

Wendy (45:36.344)
Well, she said in New York. That's the only thing I can think of because she said in New York, I lied. I'm thinking it's the only thing it could be is the TJ thing.

Kelli (45:45.641)
I don't know, it's probably not though. You know how this goes.

Wendy (45:47.63)
I know, maybe it's not. I don't know, but it's so annoying that this is what we got for our first episode.

Kelli (45:55.505)
I totally agree with you. mean, it was just.

Wendy (45:57.038)
I think it was a fail. think the first episode of Potomac was a fail.

Kelli (46:02.227)
Yeah, and I really hope that this is not what we're watching all season. A bunch of girls shitting on each other. Because I'm not here for that at all.

Wendy (46:10.958)
I agree. I agree. I want to see what's going on.

Kelli (46:14.407)
Now can I give you, yeah, I want to give you an update on where I'm at with my rewatch of Real Housewives of New Jersey.

Wendy (46:21.14)
Okay, where are you at?

Kelli (46:23.217)
I'm on season six and this may be an unpopular opinion, but I love the twins, Teresa and Nicole. And I want them to bring the twins back. I think we need the twins back. We need an update on the twins.

Wendy (46:38.35)
But they can't bring the twins back because the one twin's husband was like litigious. Remember?

Kelli (46:44.647)
Reno? No, you're thinking of Amber. No, that's so that's what I was going to say next. So Amber and Jim Marchese. Yes, Amber and Jim Marchese, who I saw him one time because when I worked at Gertler's office, we had the top floor. We shared it with Hackensack Meridian in this corporate park. And we were downsizing into a smaller building in the same corporate park. And they were showing our office space. And Jim Marchese came walking through.

Wendy (46:47.814)
okay. I'm confusing. yes. Yes. That's you're right.

Wendy (47:01.398)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (47:12.339)
And one of the attorneys came running into the billing office where I was and she was like, did you see who that was? I'm like, I saw it.

Wendy (47:16.91)
Okay.

Kelli (47:21.193)
But this is the funniest thing. So I'm watching and I'm like, I'm just gonna look them up. So this is what I do as I'm rewatching. So I Google Jim Marchese. Jim Marchese, Amber Marchese and Bobby Ciazzulli all have an IMDB.

Wendy (47:39.811)
because of his commercials. Is it because of his commercials?

Kelli (47:40.124)
You

Kelli (47:43.542)
There's something else that he produced and directed and she's listed as a producer and a director as well. I forget something. You have to look up his IMDB. The picture is so cringy of him. Like he, my God, I was laughing. I should have screenshot it and sent it to you in a text. I don't know why I did it. But I was laughing so hard. But yeah, I would love the twins to come back.

Wendy (47:54.296)
Okay.

Wendy (47:57.966)
It's so funny.

Wendy (48:03.724)
You should have.

Kelli (48:11.379)
And I love Tereza's husband, Reno.

Wendy (48:11.736)
That's right. Okay, so one of them was like, so it's so long ago, really, like, it's fuzzy. Like I just confused Amber, I totally forgot about Amber. So one of them, Reno is the one who had the restaurant in like, in Little Italy, And then the other one, what was her story?

Kelli (48:18.267)
I know.

Kelli (48:25.609)
Yeah, New York.

Yes.

Kelli (48:33.301)
So Nicole was divorced, she had two boys that you never met. I guess maybe their father didn't sign off. But she was dating Bobby Ciccioli. So I remember looking this up originally when he was on the show. So his family is the Cicciolis who own all the car dealerships. But he was in New Jersey, yeah. But he was a fireman. I mean, I'm assuming he was just like a rich boy who, you know.

Wendy (48:35.19)
Okay.

Wendy (48:46.524)
that's right. That's right. That's right.

Wendy (48:52.439)
in New Jersey.

Wendy (49:01.59)
Right. Who always wanted to be on this show. Who always wanted to be on the house. Right. Right. Right. Yes. Yes.

Kelli (49:02.485)
just kept himself busy. 100%. He would go to Teresa's book signings and I think he sought out Nicole because he had been friends with Jim Marchese for 10, 15 years or something like that. So Jim probably told him, because they all lived in Colton Neck, it's not a big town, it's a small town. He probably told him Amber got called for the show, so did the twins, Nicole is single.

Wendy (49:23.202)
Mm-hmm.

Right.

Kelli (49:34.965)
Bada bing, bada boom.

Wendy (49:36.792)
Very interesting. Very interesting.

Kelli (49:38.697)
Yeah, but they all three of them have IMDBs, Bobby Ciazzulli, Amber and Jim Marchese.

Wendy (49:46.816)
Okay, I'm gonna have to look it up so I can check out his picture.

Kelli (49:48.637)
You got to look it up. Jim Marquez's picture is hysterical.

Wendy (49:54.328)
So you know what I learned today? I was listening to Humble Bragg and Crystal announced that she was actually asked to be on Wiveswap. She was gonna be the first episode. Well, I know why she didn't do it because there's only four episodes. So it would be one episode and it would be really Rob and her kids like stuck with this stranger.

Kelli (50:10.07)
my gosh, I wonder why she didn't do it.

Wendy (50:21.632)
and she would be gone. And you know, they didn't want to participate in that. And it's not like they need the money.

Kelli (50:27.977)
No, definitely not.

Wendy (50:29.226)
Right? That's why she didn't do it. But supposedly there was three others that were asked and she knows who they are. yeah.

Kelli (50:36.319)
before the four that went. So the four that are doing it were like B-list.

Wendy (50:43.178)
Well, yeah, I guess you could maybe C or D. Who knows? I don't know how many others. don't know how many. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how many others there were. I was like,

Kelli (50:48.443)
Exactly. That's interesting.

Kelli (50:54.695)
Unless they're being asked for like future like I think that this is like a test run

Wendy (50:59.414)
Well, she was asked a long time ago. She said she was asked a long time ago.

Kelli (51:02.793)
That's interesting.

Wendy (51:07.244)
And she's only, she's not been off that long. I mean, this is, this, this is only her first year off.

Kelli (51:13.493)
This will be her second season. The second season they're filming.

Wendy (51:14.946)
Well, it, well, once it, yes, once it airs, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I was like, that's interesting. And the other thing I wanted to bring up, did you see on social media, it looks like Brittany finally had plastic surgery?

Kelli (51:19.092)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (51:31.593)
Yeah, it looks like she got a reduction in a lift and possibly a tummy tuck and God bless her for it.

Wendy (51:34.922)
Yeah. Yes. Yes. And maybe some lipo. Good for her.

Kelli (51:38.954)
Because listen, I think I've said it like, and I don't mean to be mean, I have very large boobs and I hate them, quite honestly. I don't think her stylist ever did her any favors by putting her in outfits that just accentuated the size of her breasts, but not in a flattering way.

Wendy (52:01.836)
Right.

Kelli (52:04.317)
And I think what her stylist would put her in would make her look more heavy than she is or was. And people were horrible on social media about it.

Wendy (52:10.786)
Yeah.

Wendy (52:17.462)
And she never really wanted them that big to begin with. she didn't want, I mean, she was, I mean, when I look at pictures of her when she first came on, she was like, she looks like a different person. yeah, yeah. So I'm happy for her. I'm happy that she, you know, she's doing what she needs to do for her. I was surprised though. So I'm thinking they must be done filming the Valley if she just had this done, right? Cause there's no way.

Kelli (52:20.455)
No, it was all him.

Kelli (52:29.557)
She does, yeah she does, because even her face.

Kelli (52:37.672)
Me too.

Kelli (52:46.697)
Yeah, mean, unless it's just part of her, yeah, unless it's part of her story, you know, but then you can't really film, yeah.

Wendy (52:47.234)
doing that while she's filming.

Wendy (52:51.758)
Well, that'd be something. I mean, but who knows? mean, maybe, who knows? Maybe it is a part of her story, but either way, I'm happy for her.

Kelli (52:59.817)
Me too, so happy for her. People are really split between this Sheena and Lala beef. You see that?

Wendy (53:07.918)
No, haven't actually I have not seen that

Kelli (53:11.731)
Like I saw something today, was like, whose team are you on? And it's, I gotta say, I think it's 50-50, but maybe more people leaning towards Sheena's side.

Wendy (53:15.168)
Really?

Wendy (53:22.808)
That's interesting. That's interesting.

Kelli (53:24.113)
It is interesting. Did you see? So you saw the video of Ocean calling her sister a bitch? when Lala says, where did you hear the B word? So now there's a new video out of her saying, where did you hear the B word? And then they flashed to like probably 10 scenes of Lala calling somebody a bitch on VPR. It is so funny.

Wendy (53:29.689)
my God, stepsister. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (53:47.342)
That is funny. That is funny. No, that's

Kelli (53:54.517)
That video is so cute though because that little girl is adorable and she's just brushing her hair, like, you know, like just trying to act like a teenager. I thought it was adorable.

Wendy (54:00.589)
Yep.

Wendy (54:04.234)
It was, it is adorable. It is adorable. And honestly, I love that, you know, like her mom heard her and she stopped in her tracks and went back right over there. Like, what did you just say? What? Like, I love, like that's a real parenting moment. Like those are things I like to see. yeah. Yep. So cute. Yeah.

Kelli (54:12.115)
Yeah! Yeah!

Kelli (54:18.345)
Yep, yep, and she kept recording and then she was like, my mom's mad at me. That really hurts my feelings or whatever she said. Like it was just so innocent. Yeah, super cute.

Wendy (54:33.42)
Yeah, was good. All right, so until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (54:42.048)
bye.