RHOP-From Private Jet to Gas Station Snacks

Wendy (00:01.122)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.472)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:06.178)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Potomac, Season 10, Episode Number 16, Driving on Empty.

Kelli (00:16.886)
Now, did you realize that this was the season finale? Because they never said it, but then at the end, they started doing the... Right? They never said it.

Wendy (00:24.138)
Right, they didn't. Yeah. They never said it because then there's another episode next week.

Kelli (00:31.744)
Is that the sit down with Karen? Okay, because I saw some clips on social media today of Andy interviewing Karen and I was like, I didn't see that. We saw her come out of the jail, but I didn't see them sit down. So, okay, so I didn't miss anything. That's next week. so that's gonna be considered the season finale.

Wendy (00:34.464)
Yes.

Wendy (00:44.343)
Yeah.

Wendy (00:49.132)
That's next week, yeah.

Wendy (00:53.324)
I mean, technically it's gonna be, but yes, this was with the whole cast. I she wasn't on the season, so yeah.

Kelli (00:59.842)
Right, right. One more question. Do you think Gisele realizes what a horrible person she came off as this season or do you think that there's just no self-awareness there at all and she's fine?

Wendy (01:15.166)
I think that she thinks she's fine. I don't think she's aware. I think there's zero self-awareness. I don't think she thinks that she's done anything wrong. I think she feels that she's justified in every word and action that she's made.

Kelli (01:28.578)
Yeah, it's very Tamra, Teresa. I've never been a huge fan of Gisele. I'm kind of floored by the lack of self-awareness with her though and how mean she really was this season. Because although this trip wasn't the best trip, and I don't blame her for being upset about certain things, before this trip, she was just horrible to Angel the whole season.

Wendy (01:56.962)
She was horrible and I was watching the after show. I didn't finish it, but I was watching the after show. And she was on with Tia and she still was giving Angel no grace. And Tia was, you know, trying to, yeah, it's ridiculous. It's like, how long are you gonna hold onto this for?

Kelli (02:03.286)
I actually did watch that as well.

Kelli (02:10.71)
No grace.

Kelli (02:16.556)
And I get it, like that trip to Colorado was, it was bad, it was bad trip. But she knows the behind the scenes and Giselle, you threw one good trip to Nevis, one, in 10 years, one good trip, and you're acting like you're the hostess with the mostess, and you're just not.

Wendy (02:22.294)
was bad, but you know what? She knows the behind the scenes. She knows the behind the scenes. Right.

Kelli (02:44.034)
You still had a launch party for your podcast in your dirt driveway. Like don't pat yourself on the back that hard yet.

Wendy (02:44.128)
Yeah, no, I agree.

Wendy (02:54.476)
That was her podcast launch party?

Kelli (02:56.888)
Yeah, that was the podcast launch party, I remember the picture of her and just Robin.

Wendy (03:02.05)
I didn't even remember what that party was for. Well then she had a celebration for her. What was it? 100th? No.

Kelli (03:05.483)
Yeah.

Kelli (03:10.567)
100th episode, yeah. That looked actually looked like a nice party. You were just missing your partner.

Wendy (03:13.096)
No, maybe it was at a milli- No, wait!

Right, no, I think that was maybe a million downloads. I don't think it was the 100th episode. I think it was a million downloads, yeah. Or 10 million, I don't know. Oh yes, yes, by the way, we just hit 100,000 downloads. We broke 100,000, yeah.

Kelli (03:22.514)
maybe it was a million downloads, yeah. Which is very impressive.

Kelli (03:32.5)
see that? We're right at your heels, Giselle.

Wendy (03:36.61)
Kind of. No. Look out. Here we come.

Kelli (03:39.726)
Not really.

right there.

Kelli (03:49.518)
Hmm

Wendy (03:52.898)
So we start out this day, it's day two in Colorado. We're still at, kind of, it's where we left off, we're at Kemosabe still, and Giselle announces that they're all going back to the Four Seasons and that she has dinner ready and she's got a suite and they have brunch set up in the morning and that they can be leaving afterwards. And...

Angel's like, no, I have other activities planned in the morning and just said, we'll leave it up to the ladies, whatever they want to do. Which, okay, I think that's kind of fair at this point.

Kelli (04:28.01)
At this point, I actually do think it's In addition to the timing of the excursion and when they all had to be at the airport. Like, I don't think Angel thought this one out very well, but they were also supposed to be in that house. Like, who knows that house that they were supposed to be in? That could have been very close to the excursion.

Wendy (04:29.812)
Yeah. Yeah, I do too. I do too.

Wendy (04:52.3)
could have been. We'll never know.

Kelli (04:53.776)
You know? Right. We'll never know. We'll never know.

I think everybody at this point, including us, just wants to put this trip behind us. And no longer dissect it.

Wendy (05:03.296)
Yeah, I definitely think so. So Tia asked, what are the other activities? she's, know, Angel's like, well, I have some beautiful guides set up to go fly fishing and there's a private chef there and we're gonna have a open fire lunch afterwards. You know, it's up to you. And Monique said to Giselle, like, love you, but I'd rather go look at some guides, some beautiful guides.

And Wendy, which I thought was nice, said, there any way like we can do the brunch and do the fly fishing? So they, then.

Kelli (05:43.551)
maybe that's what it was. Maybe the brunch pushed them out later.

Wendy (05:48.29)
Well, I think it was a combination of stuff too. So I think what wound up happening was, yes, I definitely think the brunch pushed them out later. And Giselle says to Angel, well, are you staying the night with us? And Angel's like, yeah. But then when they get back, they're like, everyone's like, well, how are we going to get our clothes? Now, I don't know why this was left up to Angel. I don't know why someone didn't send for their clothes, because they knew that they needed their clothes.

Kelli (06:14.446)
I mean, come on, the producers should have taken care of this. This shouldn't have been a thing. Right.

Wendy (06:19.358)
Right, because this is really where the problem was. This is where the problem was. So Angel, when they get back there, she's like, well, if you guys want after this dinner, there's a place down the road you can walk to where they have the bull riding and you know, there's a bar there. And Ashley wants to do that. And so did Monique. Jassy. That's right. Jassy and Ashley. So.

Kelli (06:39.042)
Jassi. Jassi.

She wasn't as, you know, I don't know what the word I'm looking for was, ho-ish about it as Ashley was. But yes, Jussie wanted to do it too. I'm just gonna call it like it is now.

Wendy (06:57.538)
So what winds up, yeah, no, that's what wound up happening. then what wound up happening is Angel, Tia, and Kay all leave to go back to the house to get all their stuff.

And then by the time they get back, I don't know if they went back to the Four Seasons. They must have.

Kelli (07:20.716)
It wasn't, wait, Angel, Tia and Kay. No, I don't think they did go back. Didn't they just go out? And then they got home at one a, they got back at or out of the bar at one a.m. and then they were supposed to go home, get their stuff and come back to the Four Seasons and by one a.m. they were like, no, we're not doing that. I thought that's what happened. I thought Jassy and Ashley went to the big house to get all the

Wendy (07:29.129)
No, no.

Wendy (07:44.012)
So I th-

Kelli (07:50.026)
other girl stuff and then came back and then they went out. No?

Wendy (07:55.766)
think so. The way I understood what happened was that the ladies, the three of them, Angel, Tia, and Kay left after dinner to go get the stuff because they didn't have anything but except for what they were wearing.

Kelli (08:12.174)
you

Kelli (08:15.96)
See, you know what's weird? Normally, even if we don't see them recording it that night, the next morning when they're talking about what happened the night before, we see flashbacks of what they were doing at the bar, right? We didn't see any of that.

Wendy (08:26.294)
Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Kelli (08:32.524)
I mean they clearly went because when Ashley walked in the door they were all like, you know, pretending that they were riding the bull. So it happened, we know that, but we normally see like flashbacks.

Wendy (08:42.027)
And she's.

We do normally see flashbacks and Angel said it was gonna take two hours to go there, get the clothes and come back. And they got to the suite at 8.20 to eat. So I don't know. Like I don't know what happened by the time they went and got the clothes and came back. Maybe they did go back to the Four Seasons. I don't know. I don't know exactly what the timing was, but I do believe that that is why they wound up staying at the house. That's why they didn't stay.

Kelli (08:51.182)
Right.

Wendy (09:15.106)
at the Four Seasons, because the three of them never wound up staying there at the Four Seasons. I don't know. I don't know. It was kind

Kelli (09:19.0)
Right. I thought they went out with them after dinner and then, okay. And then I thought that once the bar was done at 1 a.m., they were like, shit, we're just going home. We're not going home packing our shit and coming back. That's what I thought happened. Well, maybe they'll break it down at the reunion.

Wendy (09:24.682)
No, they didn't go out, though.

Wendy (09:36.833)
Yeah.

Wendy (09:41.578)
Yeah, maybe. Maybe they will. I did think it was interesting though when the ladies go around the piano and Giselle starts playing the piano, attempts to play the piano, because she wasn't very good at it. And they're making up a song about the trip and they all had like their own line, their own verse. was just like...

Kelli (09:59.053)
I have to be honest with you, I was so annoyed at that, because I thought it was so mean. I fast forwarded. I don't even know what they said, yeah. I was like, I'm not, you know what, I just felt like Giselle was so nasty at this point, so bitter, so jealous. She's just a bitter, miserable woman.

Wendy (10:05.707)
You did?

Wendy (10:15.266)
She was, she was definitely bitter. She was, she was.

Wendy (10:20.682)
Yeah, she really was. She was.

Kelli (10:22.572)
Yeah. So I hit the fast forward button.

Wendy (10:30.208)
Yeah, that's what Angel said. Angel said by the time they finished packing up everyone's stuff, it was 1 a.m. and then they'd have to drive another hour to get it back. I don't know. I don't know what happened, but something happened.

Kelli (10:30.242)
Just through that scene,

Kelli (10:47.278)
Okay, okay, so maybe, okay. So maybe they had dinner with them, didn't go to the bar, then went back to Angel's house, started packing, and by the time they were done, it was 1 a.m., and they were like, well, what the hell are we gonna go, sit in the car for another hour to go to the Four Seasons to sleep for five hours. Got it.

Wendy (11:03.648)
Right. Right, exactly, exactly. So in the morning, they're gonna meet them at the fly fishing place. Those three ladies are gonna miss the brunch and they're gonna meet them at the fly fishing place. is driving, she's the one driving them. The other ladies are being driven by a driver. But I would imagine they all had the same address, so I don't really know what happened.

Kelli (11:26.808)
Yeah.

Wendy (11:33.088)
with this whole driving situation.

Kelli (11:36.074)
I don't either, but I tell you what, it's not a good look for Angel's business.

Wendy (11:40.93)
No, it's not. No.

Kelli (11:42.55)
It's really not. Yeah, this was kind of a disaster.

especially when the chef dropped all those steaks.

Wendy (11:50.028)
I mean...

I know, I know. I was like, my God.

Kelli (11:54.895)
He saved him. He saved him. He got them quick, but I was like, no We don't need anything else going wrong

Wendy (12:05.184)
And I just wonder what happened to all that food, like all that food he cooks, like where did that go?

Kelli (12:11.256)
Well, obviously let's hope they ate. I'm sure they, you know, there had to be some cameramen and producers there. it? Yeah. So hopefully production got some, I don't know.

Wendy (12:17.09)
Production, yeah, right.

Wendy (12:23.914)
I don't know either, but they start showing us times until departure on the screen. And the first time we get is five hours and 34 minutes before their flight departs. And T, Angel, and K are 33 miles south of the hotel, the Four Seasons. I don't know.

Kelli (12:45.998)
And I don't think it's like Jersey where if you're on the parkway and you're at exit 90 and you're going to Manahawken, which is exit 67, in your head you're like, all right, I'm like half hour away. I don't think it's like that. I don't think 33 miles takes a half hour where they are.

Wendy (12:51.918)
yeah, definitely not.

Wendy (13:04.108)
Right.

Wendy (13:09.588)
No, I think that they're going down windy roads and maybe they're going 30 miles an hour if they're lucky.

Kelli (13:13.132)
Yeah.

Kelli (13:16.758)
Right, exactly. Like we're here in Germany, know, we're just, you know, however many miles, it's like, right, a minute a mile. That's how long it should take.

For the most part, unless there's traffic.

Wendy (13:28.458)
Yeah. So Monique is saying the other ladies are in the car and they start leaving. And Monique is saying that she missed her morning routine with her mom. She normally talks to her mom every day when she has her coffee and she didn't do that today. And then Ashley asked Giselle if she talked to her mom, if she had anything like that with her mom. And she's like, well, we talk like once a week.

which I really was actually surprised about. And she said, my mom actually talks to my girls more than she talks to me. So.

Kelli (14:00.962)
Yeah, I thought that was interesting because I was trying to think I'm like, do we know much about I don't think we've heard much about her mom over the years. I feel like we've always heard more about her dad. Yeah, but we know that her parents were divorced, obviously, and then her mom what moved back to Texas where she was from. Was that where it was? Texas? Yeah. So maybe just the distance it's like, you know.

Wendy (14:08.714)
We really haven't. Not her dad. Yeah, we have. Yeah.

Wendy (14:20.527)
I think it was Texas, yeah. I think it was Texas.

Kelli (14:27.512)
They don't see each other that much. So yeah, mean, a phone call once a week when you're out of state, I think that's nice.

Wendy (14:30.134)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:33.962)
Yeah, yeah. So then in the other car, Stacey is talking, it's Stacey, Jassy and Wendy, and they're talking and Stacey says to Jassy that, you know, she was a little surprised to see her kiki-ing with Cherise at the Family Fun Day and sharing numbers. And because she knew how she felt, you know, she knew how Stacey felt about Cherise. And she's like, I was really hurt and I was shocked by it.

And Jassy said, you know, I'm really sorry. And she's like, she said to, I surprised, Jassy said to Wendy, how do you think I should have handled that? I was very surprised that she did that.

Kelli (15:15.448)
You know what, I feel like Jassy does that probably a lot. We just don't see it. I think Jassy is, and I get it, I think she's just trying to get a spot, right? And she is like what Stacey said, like when you're everybody's friend, you're really nobody's friend. I get that vibe from Jassy. I like Jassy and I hope she does get a spot, because they have to do something with this cast, because it is not working.

Wendy (15:28.491)
spot.

Kelli (15:45.954)
but I could see her asking Wendy because I think at this point Wendy's kind of in a good place with everybody.

Wendy (15:53.472)
Yeah, she appears to be. She does. Yeah, you're right.

Kelli (15:56.184)
Yeah.

Wendy (15:59.508)
And so Jassy said, listen, was the first time I was meeting with her and I didn't want to be rude. And Wendy says, the loyalty that you expect to Stacey, that you expect from your friends, you better damn sure will be able to reciprocate it. And Stacey was like, well, I think that Jassy knows that based on our relationship that, you know, I've been loyal to her. And that's when Jassy's like, you know, let's be clear about one thing. Like, I know that your initial plan was not.

to come to my wedding. You didn't decide to come to my wedding until you found out that Ashley and Wendy were coming. And I guess Stacey thought that Wendy was just gonna be quiet, but that's not what happened.

Wendy (16:47.604)
So Wendy, know, Jassy asks Wendy and Wendy's like, she's holding her ears and she's screaming. She's like, yeah, like, you know, we're going there. Okay, we're going there. She said, you know, Stacey's like, I had a lot going on with my launch and Jassy's like, yeah, well, I gave you the date long before you had this launch that you were doing. Stacey's like, yeah, well, I made it happen. And Wendy's like, no, like this is, this is how it was. And.

Kelli (17:15.264)
I do think so basically, but it comes out. Wendy called Stacey and was like, no, you have to prioritize this. And she was like, okay. So yes, I think initially like the, the blow off was there, but once Wendy kind of checked her and was like, no, no, this is, that's not how we conduct our business. This is how we conduct our business. Stacey was like, no problem. So I,

Wendy (17:32.46)
Right.

Wendy (17:36.918)
Right. Right.

Kelli (17:44.353)
I understand Jassy being annoyed and I also understand Jassy's feeling like if you expect me to not take Sharice's phone number, then what you did was really effed up. But I think Stacey's saying anything to Jassy about getting Sharice's phone number. I'm sure Sharice initiated that. And what was Jassy supposed to do? I'm sorry, I can't do that, Stacey's my friend. Nobody would do that. That's ridiculous.

Wendy (18:11.272)
No. Nobody would do that. No, it is ridiculous. It is ridiculous.

So then one of the next times we see is there's three hours and six minutes until their flights depart.

Kelli (18:24.098)
The countdown was very funny.

Wendy (18:26.41)
Yes, Angel realizes that her GPS is taking her in the opposite direction of where they're going fly fishing and they show it to you on the map.

Kelli (18:34.274)
I mean, Angel, do you even really live in Colorado? Because now I'm questioning everything. Where do you live, Angel?

Wendy (18:49.804)
I know, poor angel. I guess she just doesn't have a good sense of direction.

Kelli (18:52.054)
I know. I don't think she does. I don't think she does.

Wendy (18:58.65)
And then on the other car, Ashley tells Monique that she asked Chris Samuels if he was banging Stacey. And Monique said, well, what was his response? And she said, well, he just made this face. Like, hmm. I'm like, come on, Ashley. Yeah.

Kelli (19:16.95)
and took a sip of his drink. And Monique said, you never told me that. And she's like, I never told you that? No, you didn't tell her that, Ashley, because it's not true and you just made it up on this car ride now. And Giselle in her confessional being like, I don't know why Ashley hasn't told Monique that yet, because it's a lie and she just made it up.

Wendy (19:35.468)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:36.322)
Because at this point, they can say whatever they want about Chris Samuels. And then, and then Ashley turns around and says that Bobby is the one who told Chris Samuels? Stop it.

Wendy (19:48.481)
yeah. yeah. Yeah.

Yep.

Kelli (19:54.571)
I mean that is a reach if I've ever seen a reach. Right?

Wendy (20:00.214)
Yeah, I know, I know. It's like, why are you even getting involved in this? Seriously.

Kelli (20:04.288)
Exactly. This was like buried weeks ago.

Wendy (20:08.96)
Yeah.

Wendy (20:12.712)
Angel's worried about the ladies because she hasn't heard from them. Then we see there's two hours and 44 minutes to the flight.

Stacy is over trying to explain to Jassy what happened, you know, that we didn't speak for a long time. She's like, can I be heard? she brings up this thing about a recording. She said, we didn't speak a long time because you and I were on the phone talking about this friendship group. And all of a sudden I heard this call is being recorded and

What was that about? Now, I still don't know what that's about. I don't know because then Jassy said, yeah, I said that to you. so who...

Kelli (20:59.746)
Right.

Somebody was recording somebody and they're both saying that they...

Wendy (21:08.618)
Right. So I don't know what's going on with that. Maybe that will come up at the reunion.

Kelli (21:12.0)
I could actually see Stacy recording a conversation before I could see Jassy doing it, quite honestly.

Kelli (21:20.12)
dare I say.

Wendy (21:20.286)
don't know. I don't know.

I don't really know to be honest with you, but hopefully that does come up at the reunion.

Kelli (21:29.42)
Yeah, I would hope that would, yeah.

Wendy (21:32.512)
Yeah.

Wendy (21:40.544)
Then it goes left. Like, Stacey's like, if you want to talk about her feelings, we can talk about that all day long. But where is the lie? Because Jassy kept saying that there was a lie. And Jassy says to Stacey, are you effing dumb? Are you dumb? Are you actually dumb? I was like, where did that come from? Like, why did she get so? The only thing I can think of is she got so mad because she was the one that was lying about the recording.

Kelli (21:57.816)
I know.

Kelli (22:06.785)
Yeah.

Wendy (22:06.88)
Like why else would she have reacted like that?

Kelli (22:10.186)
No, you're right. You're right. Because that's what happens when somebody knows they're lying and they can't get out of it. They're like a caged, they're like a cornered rat and they just start lashing out. So you're right. That's probably what happened. Yeah.

Wendy (22:18.123)
Right.

Right? mean...

Kelli (22:24.942)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (22:27.236)
boy, the next time we see is two hours and 31 minutes until departure and 23 miles from the fly fishing spot is Giselle's car and Wendy's car. They're all, yeah, they're all pulling over to stop and go to the bathroom.

Kelli (22:32.12)
TikTok.

Kelli (22:39.842)
They were close.

Wendy (22:46.772)
at the gas station, and they're starving.

Kelli (22:48.494)
But again, it said 23 miles, but somebody said, we're still an hour away.

Wendy (22:55.04)
Right, right. And it's two hours and 31 minutes until their departure and they still have to get to the airport. And we don't know how far the airport is from the fly fishing spot. Because they never told us that. I mean, we saw it on the map, but I don't know what the distance was.

Kelli (23:06.582)
Right. Right.

Kelli (23:13.078)
Right, or the time, yeah.

Wendy (23:15.284)
Right.

Kelli (23:17.774)
Cutting it way too close.

Wendy (23:19.87)
Yeah, so the ladies go to the ladies room and they decide that they're gonna get food at the food truck because they're starving and they got it they want to eat before they get on the plane.

Kelli (23:30.542)
don't know if I'd want to eat that before I get on a plane though.

Wendy (23:35.4)
I know, but I don't, I guess you gotta do what you gotta do, right?

Kelli (23:41.014)
You do. But Monique was like, I'm just gonna have to get some french fries. I thought that would be me. That's what I would be able to get. Yeah.

Wendy (23:47.648)
Yeah, I mean, I would do too. That's exactly what I would do too. Then they FaceTime with Angel and she finds out that they're at the gas station. Angel then tells them that she was going in the wrong direction and that she's three hours away. I'm like, boy. Ashley starts like, if we all stayed together at the Four Seasons, like this wouldn't have happened.

Kelli (24:11.862)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:18.682)
She's probably right. Although, if they got the wrong address, they got the wrong address.

Wendy (24:24.93)
Oh wait, no, you know what it says? I have it written down. The airport is two hours from the excursion.

Kelli (24:30.444)
Right, and they were still an hour away from the excursion. So at least hopefully that meant they were only an hour from the airport. But still, time is like ticking away.

Wendy (24:31.606)
Okay, so.

Right.

Wendy (24:39.532)
Hopefully. Right. Yeah.

Kelli (24:45.036)
and it sounds like they were all on different flights.

Wendy (24:48.95)
Yes it did because then Giselle said, so how's my friend Tia getting to the airport?

And I'm like, wait, because yeah, she's further away and I don't know. I don't know what was happening there. I don't know. honestly, don't think we'll, I don't think we find out because I don't think it matters at this point, right?

Kelli (24:59.704)
So, right.

Kelli (25:13.774)
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. We just all need this trip to end. At least we know they're all home safe because we saw them all in the after show.

Wendy (25:19.976)
Meanwhile, back at

Yes, exactly, exactly. At the fly fishing excursion, Angel calls up Nina, her Wonderland lady, and lets them know that they're not coming. And the chef is like, oh, OK. Like, literally gave out a big sigh. He's like, I was like, oh, I felt so bad for him.

Kelli (25:47.491)
I did too, I did too. Because she's like how much longer? He's like about a half hour. So you figured, but they were still, even if they didn't have to go to the airport, they were still an hour away. Like this guy, like you you're trying to feed these people and you want the food to be hot and they're an hour away and you're a half hour until you're done and he, you know, I would have been stressed, that's for sure.

Wendy (25:52.865)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (26:12.118)
Yeah.

So then back at the gas station, Monique is saying, how do we go from a private jet to gas station food, which is so true. It is so true.

Kelli (26:24.396)
Yeah, yeah, the trip took a 180.

Wendy (26:29.322)
Yeah, and Jassy's telling Gisele what happened with the argument between her and Stacey and Cherise exchanging phone numbers. And of course, you know, Gisele has to put her two cents in, you know.

Kelli (26:42.797)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (26:46.732)
Then Wendy jumps in and says, like, listen, you know, I just want realness. And Stacey gets up from the table and she's mad. She gets up and she walks away. I really, honestly, I've never seen Wendy actually, excuse me, Stacey ever do that before. Like Stacey normally just stays. In all,

Kelli (27:04.458)
Yeah. And it's funny because just did Giselle say something about her getting up and walking away? That's what you do Giselle. Cause you when, you're not smart enough to handle the confrontation just like other housewives I won't mention, but that's what happens. You walk away cause you're not intelligent enough to, you know, go do the back and forth.

Wendy (27:11.84)
Right, right, that's what Giselle does.

Wendy (27:27.414)
I think Stacey walked away because she was upset with Wendy. And she talked about it on the after show. Her and Wendy have a real friendship. They really are friends. And Wendy not having her back, especially in front of Giselle.

Kelli (27:31.309)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:41.335)
And I don't even think it wasn't, it was Wendy not having her, cause I think, I think Wendy was doing the right thing and telling the truth. And, and, you know, and I, she definitely like kind of flew off the handle, but as someone who can fly off the handle, I get it. But I think all she did was say the truth and Stacy didn't like that.

Wendy (28:03.082)
Right. Right.

Wendy (28:08.647)
Wendy (28:12.202)
In her confessional, Stacey said that, you she felt like Wendy challenging her was like a dagger to her heart. And like I said, I think she was just hurt. It wasn't even so much that she couldn't handle it, because she can. Stacey can handle herself. She can, 100%.

Kelli (28:21.869)
Yeah.

Kelli (28:26.654)
absolutely. Better than most on that show.

Wendy (28:31.628)
Did you see her on Watch What Happens Live?

Kelli (28:34.144)
I didn't. I watched the after show. I didn't watch Watch What Happens Live.

Wendy (28:38.614)
So I didn't finish watching Watch What Happens Live, and I didn't take notes, but somebody in the audience asked her a question, and she gave, I don't remember what the answer was, but she gave the... Perfect. Okay, that was epic.

Kelli (28:47.412)
I think I saw a clip of that. How she's loved and in a great relationship and Giselle just doesn't know what that looks like. 100 % chef's kiss to that answer because that is facts.

Wendy (28:56.842)
Yes, exactly.

Wendy (29:03.006)
Absolutely. Yes, exactly. Exactly. She paused for a second before she gave her answer. And then when she finished giving her answer, she did like a pose. And Andy looks at her and said, did you do pageants? She goes, no, why? He goes, because you just gave a pageant face. And she just continued to do it because that's what she does. She also did a sell off with, who was she on with?

Kelli (29:14.606)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (29:32.79)
was she on with the woman from Married to Medicine. Andy gave her an item to sell. It was like moon shoes. It was so funny. And then the other Married to Medicine woman, the item to sell. And everyone, Stacey won because she could sell anything. She just is so confident in the words that she says and it comes across as believable.

Kelli (29:40.319)
my God.

Kelli (29:52.312)
For sure.

Mm hmm. I do too.

Wendy (29:55.11)
I really like her. really do. And Andy's like, this is why I love you, Stacey. Like, this is why I love you. With that pageant answer and that pageant pose at the end, it was just... She really is. Yep.

Kelli (30:04.248)
She's so unbothered. She's so unbothered.

Wendy (30:10.722)
So then we get at the end, we get everyone's, their ending things, right? So, Stacey and Timo are still going strong, but have no plans to remarry as the ink on the sealed divorce papers is too fresh if they did. Jassy would not be invited to the wedding. Okay. After a two year battle, was sad to hear, Giselle lost the fight over her father's will.

Kelli (30:34.499)
Yeah.

Kelli (30:41.038)
That was very surprising. That was very surprising.

Wendy (30:44.118)
But one I know, I was very surprised to see that.

Kelli (30:51.096)
There must have been, you know, I don't know, I don't do probate, I never have, but there must have been some serious proof that this man was of his right mind when that will got changed. But it's still very surprising because she was clearly very close with her father and it's surprising that he would cut her out of anything.

Wendy (30:51.402)
I was very surprised.

Kelli (31:20.673)
and her girls.

Wendy (31:20.778)
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. I was too, even though I don't like her, I was sorry to hear that. No, it doesn't.

Kelli (31:25.016)
Yeah, I was sorry to hear that.

Exactly, exactly, because it just doesn't sound right. It just doesn't sound right.

Wendy (31:36.108)
But we only know one side of the story though, too. You know? And then it said, but one loss did not overshadow a big win. Giselle's daughter, Angel, became a member of, I guess that was her sorority. Yeah, I'm like, okay. Three months after the Colorado trip, Wendy and Eddie were arrested for fraud. They are facing felony charges and if convicted, up to 15 years in prison.

Kelli (31:38.082)
Yeah, we do. We do.

Kelli (31:48.737)
It must have been, yeah.

Kelli (32:03.5)
I will tell you what, I got the chills when I saw 15 years. But listen, not to bring her up, but didn't Teresa and Joe Giudice, like didn't they scheme way more money? And she did one year and he did three? Like I thought they were in the millions with like mortgage fraud and wire fraud and bank fraud and all the frauds.

Wendy (32:07.905)
Yeah.

Wendy (32:25.472)
Well, they pled guilty, so there was a deal.

Kelli (32:30.252)
Mmm. Got it.

Wendy (32:31.852)
There's, you know, they could have been facing 15 years in prison, but then they pled guilty. We don't know. I don't know what they were facing. Yeah, I don't. Yeah.

Kelli (32:35.84)
Right, right, right. mean, they got bankruptcy, fraud, everything. All the fraud.

Got it.

Wendy (32:46.882)
Ashley's Second Bloom has her second guessing Josh. They've broken up and gotten back together several times. Yeah, we know that.

Kelli (32:55.182)
Ashley, you're a damn liar. You're a fraud, Ashley. You're a fraud.

Wendy (33:02.238)
She continues to write her next chapter of life, including a children's book.

Kelli (33:06.936)
Dear Lord in heaven, she is the last person on this God-given earth that should be writing a children's book.

Wendy (33:08.714)
You

Wendy (33:18.294)
I know.

Kelli (33:19.54)
I mean, com- are you gonna talk about riding the bull in the book? Why? It's so stupid!

Wendy (33:24.62)
I don't know what she's gonna talk about. I don't know, I don't know.

Wendy (33:34.94)
Kay and Greg are better than ever, but she's still prioritizing her med spa business over marriage. The picture frame remains the only link from the jewelry store in her possession.

Kelli (33:48.088)
You know what I really hope for Kay? I really hope for Kay that Greg proposes off camera, off season, while they're not filming.

Wendy (34:01.004)
I don't know. I don't know that they're endgame.

Kelli (34:01.133)
I really hope that for her.

I don't know if they are either, I'll be honest. I agree with you.

Wendy (34:08.226)
Mmm.

As he and her sister are continuing to build a relationship, what isn't continuing is house parties thrown by the kids, at least that she's aware of. Her husband was home, though.

Kelli (34:22.304)
I know that's the best part. You know though, they probably told their father like, we're just gonna have like 15 people and then all of a sudden 60 are at the house, you know? Cause you can get away with that with the dad. can't get it, like if they say that to us, we're like, bullshit. Double or triple that.

Wendy (34:24.266)
I know right?

Wendy (34:30.57)
Right. Right. Listen, I love that the kids call the police.

Wendy (34:41.942)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (34:45.676)
But again, I like that the kids are the ones to call the police. Smart enough to take care of it.

Kelli (34:50.158)
Mm-hmm.

Exactly. It's so funny.

Wendy (34:59.026)
Angel and Bobby are still living in Colorado, but they say they have purchased a $2 million home in Potomac. What does that mean? It doesn't... Me too!

Kelli (35:07.188)
I thought that was really interesting wording. They say they bought a $2 million home in Potomac and Tia was not the realtor, which was also very surprising to me. Because if this is what she does for wealthy people, why wouldn't you just use her? You weren't working with another realtor because Bobby said it himself. Bobby said it himself. Why are we looking at Zillow?

Wendy (35:29.868)
Well, she was, but.

Kelli (35:35.98)
And who was she working with? The realtor that told Wendy that she wanted something for a thousand dollars a month? I'm sure after that conversation she wasn't using her anymore.

Wendy (35:36.448)
I think that was.

Wendy (35:44.726)
Well, there was that realtor that brought him to that house, but maybe she was the listing realtor. But I don't know.

Kelli (35:47.671)
Hmm Right, right. Don't know but I wonder if she I thought the wording was very interesting that They say they I mean couldn't production fact-check that before they did the conclusions of the season

Wendy (36:03.266)
They did it on purpose. I think they did it on purpose.

Wendy (36:11.49)
Giselle said that one thing I know for sure is the Grand Dam would have not made it through this trip.

Kelli (36:19.0)
I think she's right.

Wendy (36:19.042)
And she said, I think it's good thing she's in a better place right now, prison. I was like, okay, that's a little shady.

Kelli (36:27.158)
I think, I don't think Karen would have lasted as long as they did in that house with no water.

Wendy (36:32.394)
No, I don't think she would have either. No.

And then we see two months later Montgomery, she's, know, Montgomery County Detention Center. Karen walks out of jail and she gets into the car. Once she's inside the car, you would see all the cameras were in there. Like they have her right there. The thing is, I don't know if that was the actual footage.

Kelli (36:51.874)
Yeah.

Wendy (36:58.924)
to be quite honest with you. Because when she got out of jail, I don't remember seeing her at all. I just remember them showing us on the news the outside of the car and you could hear her voice but you couldn't see her. I don't ever remember seeing her wearing those dreads or the jeans or any of that.

Kelli (37:19.586)
I don't ever remember that either. I do think, not only because we saw footage from Rozzers of New Jersey, I believe when you're released, it's typically in the dark, like in the middle of the night. It's typically, well, maybe not, I don't know, maybe not county. Maybe not county. Maybe not county.

Wendy (37:38.816)
I don't know.

Kelli (37:44.512)
I didn't think it would be in broad daylight, like at 11 a.m., like, okay, Karen Huger's gonna walk out of the courthouse now.

Wendy (37:51.682)
well, out of the jail. that's, I mean, that's what the news showed. But they, like I said, I don't ever remember seeing her. I remember hearing her voice. They showed you a dark car window. So I think this is my, and I could be wrong. I think that they reshot that of her getting into the car and then the footage in the car. I don't know though.

Kelli (37:53.848)
day and

Kelli (37:58.69)
Mm-mm.

Kelli (38:03.437)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (38:12.055)
Yeah.

Kelli (38:16.248)
Probably. Probably.

Wendy (38:18.53)
And we probably never will know and it doesn't really matter. It just was pointing out that they're not they're not fooling me. Exactly. Well, I mean, I'm curious to see. I'm curious to see what she has to say. Stacey did say that on Watch What Happens Live that. She was very surprised at the questions Andy asked.

Kelli (38:24.462)
What am I a chomp?

Kelli (38:32.086)
No, you're not pulling the wool over our eyes, bravo.

Wendy (38:47.69)
It was the questions that she had and everyone else had, and she was very surprised as to how honest and forthcoming Karen was with her answers.

Kelli (38:57.27)
Okay. Was Stacey ever on a season with Karen?

I was just trying to think about that. I don't think she was. No, wait a minute. Maybe her first season. No, because this is only her second season. And this is the first season Karen's not on. Okay.

Wendy (39:09.131)
Yeah, I think she...

Wendy (39:15.104)
Yeah, she was only sentenced to one year and she only served six months. Right?

Kelli (39:20.556)
Okay, yeah. So next week is an episode with Karen and then we'll have the reunion. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be negative. I'm happy that this season of Potomac is over. I felt like Giselle was so incredibly mean. I did not enjoy watching her at all. She and Ashley bring.

Wendy (39:22.912)
Yeah, she was on one season with her.

Wendy (39:27.851)
Yes.

Kelli (39:46.823)
zero to the table and the fact that they're considered the OGs on the show now because Karen wasn't on and everyone else is gone. I don't think that they're doing a very good job at their job. I think they were both a mess this season.

Wendy (40:00.299)
I agree.

I agree because their sole purpose is to bring somebody down. To bring down the new person. mean, first it was Wendy, then it was Stacey, and now it's Angel. Like that's all they do.

Kelli (40:09.996)
Yes.

Kelli (40:14.04)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Kelli (40:20.664)
That's all they do. And it's typically people who are like happy in relationships.

Wendy (40:28.279)
Yeah.

Kelli (40:29.096)
I mean, Wendy and Angel were. Stacey's was a little confusing. But yeah, I don't, know, because I was thinking about Beverly Hills, I'm like, I really am enjoying Beverly Hills right now. And, you know, there's the stuff with the annoying little sister, Amanda. But other than that, I just, you know, I think it's entertaining. you know, Kyle's not a mean girl. She's not like Kyle doesn't do any of like hazing like

Vicki Gunfelsen, like she was a hazer. Anyone new that came on the season, she was a hazer. I feel like Giselle's kind of picking up on that.

And I don't like it.

Wendy (41:09.666)
Well, I'm very curious to see what happens with this girls trip because there's a lot of strong personalities on this girls trip right now.

Kelli (41:18.68)
There really are.

Wendy (41:22.08)
mean, we heard about Portia and Vicky unfollowing each other, but people say, like, probably Vicky never even followed her, to be quite honest with you. I don't even know if Vicky knew who Portia was, because it's Vicky.

Kelli (41:33.333)
Exactly. It's Vicki.

Wendy (41:36.122)
And it's just a matter of time before I think Gisele has it out with somebody because, you know, she's another one, you know?

Kelli (41:41.848)
Sure.

Kelli (41:45.228)
Probably someone who's happily married. We're happily in a relationship.

Wendy (41:49.516)
But actually, is there anybody? Is there anybody happily married on the girls' trip? Let's think about it.

Kelli (41:54.858)
I don't know. Kyle's not, NeNe's not.

well, Teresa's still in her love bubble.

Wendy (42:04.55)
yeah.

Kelli (42:06.88)
It could be Teresa.

Wendy (42:09.228)
By the way, did you see that Theresa and her daughter Gia are opening a restaurant?

Kelli (42:14.082)
did. I will not go there.

Wendy (42:16.14)
with a business partner.

No, really?

Kelli (42:20.148)
I will not be going there. But yes, I did see that. I did see that.

You know, I was thinking about it that it's a pretty big statement from Bravo that Teresa got on this ultimate girls trip and not Melissa. I mean, I know they gave her wife swap, but come on. like, well, she was, but Melissa was the first, Melissa was on the first one with Teresa. She was on the first one with Kyle and.

Wendy (42:39.084)
But it's OGs. Isn't, isn't, wait, are they all OGs?

Wendy (42:49.172)
No, I'm saying, wasn't it all original cast members from their seasons? Because it's only... Yes, she was.

Kelli (42:56.312)
Portia wasn't original. Portia wasn't an original, Atlanta. No, she wasn't on the first two seasons.

Wendy (43:05.836)
Are you sure?

Kelli (43:06.936)
She definitely was not on the first season. No, because it was, it was, what's her? She definitely was not.

Wendy (43:14.368)
Now you're right, Porsche probably wasn't.

Wendy (43:20.546)
because she was married to that football player at first. Yes.

Kelli (43:22.638)
Cordell, Cordell, yep. Yeah, because Cynthia wasn't even an original housewife. And I remember Portia coming on after Cynthia because, or maybe at the same time, because I remember Peter being like, this is, you know, this is big. Like he's NFL. Like we got an NFL wife on. Like he was, you know, Peter was like, Peter was impressed by the fact that Portia was coming on the show.

Wendy (43:28.416)
No, Cynthia wasn't, definitely.

Wendy (43:50.434)
That's funny.

Kelli (43:51.553)
Yeah, maybe the other ones are OGs, but I'm just saying, I mean, they put Melissa on the first Ultimate Girls trip with Teresa and they call that OGs. But yeah, I think it's a pretty big statement by Bravo that they gave Teresa this and they gave Melissa Wiveswap because I think in comparison, is Ultimate Girls trips bigger than Wiveswap. Who knows if they're even going to do that again?

Wendy (44:12.856)
I think they're going to do Wiveshop again.

Kelli (44:15.34)
I mean, I think they should, but I think this is bigger. What they gave Teresa is bigger.

Wendy (44:21.59)
Actually, I don't even know how they're doing this, to be quite honest with you. It sounds like way too many moving pieces, this whole girl's trip.

Kelli (44:28.362)
And the fact that they're saying that they're on an RV and they're absolutely not on an RV. mean,

What are we doing? Like don't say they're on an RV. Just say they're flying to other cities too. Cause I saw, what's her name? She was married to Keith Sweat. She was an Atlanta housewife.

My memory is so bad. Lisa.

Lisa, she was married to Keith Sweatt before she was married to her second husband who I think she's divorced from him too now. Yeah, but she was in one of the clips too, so they go visit her. I don't know if she's still in Atlanta. she's probably still in Atlanta because didn't they just go to a party in Atlanta?

Wendy (44:57.986)
She was married to Keith's what?

Wendy (45:17.398)
Maybe, but you know, this Thursday on Watch What Happens Live, it's Kyle, Kathy, and Paris Hilton. So that means she's gonna have to be in New York soon.

Wendy (45:34.486)
That's just, that's, you know, a couple days away.

Kelli (45:38.53)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (45:41.516)
So I mean, maybe they're coming to Jersey and New York. You think they were just in Atlanta?

Kelli (45:46.808)
think they were just in Atlanta, yeah.

Wendy (45:49.238)
And they gotta do Miami still. Did they do Miami yet?

Kelli (45:51.855)
Nobody from Miami's on this cast though, are they? Because Anna and Ace were talking about it and I think Anna said that it was conflicting with the filming of Miami, but Miami's on a break right now. Are they even filming?

Wendy (45:56.96)
I don't know.

Wendy (46:09.122)
I don't think Miami's filming now. Miami's not filming. I think it was, wasn't it Anna that said that it was offered to Leah and she said she didn't want to do it because she didn't want to have any interaction with Alexia and Alexia was going to be one of the stops?

Kelli (46:11.16)
I don't think they are.

Kelli (46:20.408)
Yes.

Alexia, yeah.

Yes. But it's interesting that nobody from Miami is representing them on the trip. But yeah, Leah Black said no and good for her. I love when people shoot Bravo down.

Wendy (46:37.014)
Yeah.

Wendy (46:40.32)
Yeah.

Kelli (46:41.858)
You know what I want? I want a reboot of Married with Manzo. Manzo with children? What was that called? Manzo with children. I want a reboot. Now that Al's married and has a kid, Lauren and Vito are divorced but co-parenting beautifully with their daughter. I know, I wish she would though. Well Bravo probably wouldn't have her after that whole thing. Yeah, she's blackballed. Well maybe somebody else could pick it up.

Wendy (46:48.34)
Manzode with children, I think.

Wendy (46:58.402)
Caroline is not gonna do that.

She's suing Bravo. No, she's suing Bravo. She's not, there's no, that's not happening. That's not.

Kelli (47:11.022)
I love the Manzos. I want to see them, what's going on. Yeah. They should shop it around. And I want their cousin Candace on it too, cause she cracks me up.

Wendy (47:11.574)
Hulu. Hulu could pick it up. Hulu.

Wendy (47:22.646)
Who's their cousin Candice?

Kelli (47:24.472)
They have a cousin Candace, she's on the podcast a lot, Dear Albie. And they talked about it one time that before they cast Melissa and Kathy Wacheeley, she was going to join the cast. But her husband was, I guess he was an educator and had hopes of becoming like administration in a school district.

Wendy (47:40.546)
I didn't know that.

Kelli (47:53.184)
and somebody said to her, like, you might not want to do that with his aspirations. So it was kind of like a, she kind of changed her mind and then they went in the other direction and got Melissa and Kath.

Wendy (48:07.84)
Hmm, interesting.

Kelli (48:08.738)
But she's very funny, she's on the podcast a lot and I think she'd be great for reality TV. And listen, by now, if her husband's a principal, it is what it is, pal.

Wendy (48:20.278)
Yeah, there you go.

Kelli (48:21.71)
because that was years ago.

Wendy (48:25.484)
We'll have to just wait and see what happens. I don't have anything else to you.

Kelli (48:27.65)
Yeah, I do not.

Wendy (48:31.212)
Okay, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe. Go to YouTube and subscribe, please. We need subscribers on YouTube. And tell your friends. Bye.

Kelli (48:40.846)
Bye.