RHOP-Forks, Filters & Feelings

Wendy (00:00.91)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.024)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:06.232)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Potomac, Season 10, Episode Number 6. Sun's out, fun's out. That's for sure with this group.

Kelli (00:16.689)
Buns were out. Buns were out.

Wendy (00:19.116)
Yeah, I mean, there is not a modesty problem.

Kelli (00:27.983)
No, but they all got that ass. So they're going to show it off and good for them. I mean, they all have great bodies. They all look great. So show it if you got it.

Wendy (00:34.967)
Yeah.

absolutely, 100%. 100%.

Exactly. So we start out where we left off with Jassy and Kiana are still going at it at Sunshine's. They kind of put a pin in that for a little bit and then Giselle brings out the shady shot time. Only Giselle. Seriously, only Giselle.

Wendy (01:04.843)
The first shady shot goes to Ashley and that's Dutchess Derby.

Okay.

Tia's shot was a stylist. I mean, I didn't really think that was shady, to be honest with you.

Kelli (01:19.761)
That's not shady.

Wendy (01:21.312)
No, Jassy's was the bride and stepmom. I didn't think that was shady either.

Kelli (01:28.431)
Mm-hmm. No.

Wendy (01:32.79)
Stacey's shot was shady. It was blank. It was nothing.

Kelli (01:37.521)
It's like Gisele, tell me you're fucking jealous of Stacey without telling me you're jealous of Stacey. Because this is how Gisele is. This is how Gisele treats people that she's jealous of. She treated Monique like this, she treated Candice like this. They're younger, they're prettier, and they have men.

Wendy (01:42.871)
Yeah.

Wendy (01:48.908)
Yes.

Wendy (01:54.274)
Yes.

Angel shot said chin check.

Kelli (02:01.263)
I thought we weren't allowed to say Chin Check. I thought Stacey got schooled on the bus. She got reprimanded. Yeah, but everybody else can say Chin Check, but when Stacey says it, it's a problem. These women.

Wendy (02:07.878)
no, which is Elkan.

Wendy (02:13.934)
Mm-hmm.

And Kiana got Giselle Hader.

Wendy (02:21.88)
Giselle just likes to bring up conflict. So.

Giselle says that Wendy brought it to her attention that when she had a conversation with Wendy that she said that, you know, I hate Giselle also.

Kelli (02:40.699)
Yeah.

Wendy (02:42.125)
Yeah.

In Gisele's.

Kelli (02:45.145)
And when was this supposedly? Wasn't this like a year ago or something?

Wendy (02:50.09)
No, so that conversation that they're referring to was the conversation that she had on the bench with Wendy in the very beginning.

Kelli (02:58.248)
Oh, oh, the beginning of the season. Okay.

Wendy (03:00.662)
Yeah. So inter-confessional, Giselle said, I've been nothing but supportive of Kay. I've been a champion of her and Greg, which I do think she has been supportive of Kay.

Jassy said, well, I need, I don't know why Jassy's jumping, I need Wendy to bring whatever her facts are about this because she's not there and she's in bed sick. So we're gonna table this, which I was glad that they tabled it because if she's saying that Wendy's, right.

Kelli (03:24.485)
Because it's boring and it means nothing and Gisele has nothing going on in her life so she's gonna make some bullshit up. Right? Yeah.

Wendy (03:31.628)
Right. And the fact that she even brought it up when she was saying that Wendy said it and Wendy wasn't there because she was in bed sick is just, you know, is dumb.

Kelli (03:40.401)
Stupid. Right. Right.

Wendy (03:44.45)
So then they kind of all go back to bed and the next thing we see is the producer cam. catches Ashley and Stacey are talking and Jassy and the conversation is Stacey said, we were separated, Timo saw other people and I saw other people. You know, I didn't have sex with anyone. I saw people hung out and Chris was one of those people. Simple enough. And the bottom line is I know Chris and he's super cool. Well, Ashley said, did you F Chris? And Stacey's like, no, I never.

Kelli (04:06.651)
Right. Right.

Wendy (04:14.455)
I never F'd him.

Kelli (04:15.985)
All right. Okay.

Wendy (04:17.912)
But again, why are you bringing this up, Ashley? Like, what does it have to do with anything?

Kelli (04:22.927)
Right. Right. It's none of your damn business.

Wendy (04:28.64)
It really isn't. We're on day three, this is the last day and they're to go out on that boat. And then tonight they're having what they're calling the slut night. Okay.

Kelli (04:40.875)
some of them took that way more serious than the others.

Wendy (04:45.548)
I think Ashley took it the most serious.

Kelli (04:47.921)
For sure. For sure. I mean, if we were going to give out an award.

Wendy (04:53.518)
Oh, Ashley would have won it. So Ashley, and she's talking to Josh. She said that because she was talking to her mom on the phone about her son's birthday party and Josh had texted her and she's like, in her confession, she said, we're still hanging out, but we're not labeling it. She needs a little sex in her life. So basically he's her booty call. You don't need to label it. You just told us what he is. Wendy's feeling better.

Kelli (05:14.755)
Mm-hmm. You just told us.

Wendy (05:22.292)
Stacy, what did Stacy have an allergic reaction to on her lip?

Kelli (05:25.937)
I'm wondering if it was the shots, whatever was in those shots. Something was in those shots, because I'm telling you, last week, I mentioned it on the last part, like, Kiana's face, I really thought she was gonna pass out. I don't know what was in those shots, but there was something. So it had to be something like that that Stacey was allergic to, and her lip was all jacked up.

Wendy (05:30.317)
Wendy (05:44.424)
it was bad actually.

Kelli (05:48.304)
Yeah.

Wendy (05:52.546)
And then Ashley in her confessional said, last night Stacey spewed some lies and she was referring to her conversation about Chris Samuels. Why does she think, right, right, exactly. Like she's not in her bedroom. Why does she, it's none of her damn business.

Kelli (06:01.169)
But how does Ashley know it's a lie and why does she care so much?

Kelli (06:10.789)
And by the way, Ashley, what is going on in your life? Cause we see nothing. We see nothing.

Wendy (06:17.442)
Yeah, you're planning a birthday party for your son. Big deal.

Kelli (06:19.791)
Right, right. Like what are you doing? What are you bringing to the table other than bullshit about other people? Her and Gisele, this is all they do. It's all Gisele and Robin used to do. Like sorry Potomac producers, you need a new formula. Because this is not working. It's just not working.

Wendy (06:40.046)
I totally agree. Then they get to the boat. According to T and Giselle, it's a yacht. I'm going to, it's not a yacht. It's a boat. It's a big boat, but it's not a yacht. I'll give it big boat, but I'm not giving it yacht status. Not like below deck, not a big yacht.

Kelli (06:49.457)
It's a pig.

Kelli (06:55.513)
Right. No, no,

Wendy (07:00.138)
So as soon as they get on the boat, Gisele says, okay, I need to talk with Wendy and Kay. Now, I thought she was gonna like pull them aside and have the conversation. No, she puts everyone around the table and puts everyone in the conversation. That did not need to happen.

Kelli (07:12.987)
Right. No, because it's all stupid.

No.

Wendy (07:20.928)
It really is stupid. It really is stupid. So she brings...

Kelli (07:24.473)
And this is why I thought it was so long ago, because Kay says that she was upset at the night club when she was assaulted. Giselle didn't reach out to her and that upset her. And then she said it in New York. And she said, I think it's absurd that we're talking about this. And by the way, Kay, I think it's absurd too. I concur. And I get this, Giselle explains where her father was at the time and what condition he was in.

Wendy (07:39.342)
Yeah, in 2023.

Yeah. I do too.

Kelli (07:54.256)
You know.

Kay was the furthest thing from her mind. And that's okay. I totally, you know, I totally, I think that's fine. But the problem is that Giselle literally has nothing going on. And this is her storyline that she's gonna bring up now. And it's very uninteresting. Kay had every right to feel the way she did. Giselle had every right to feel the way she did. And it was over a year ago. And who gives an F?

Wendy (08:25.26)
Yeah, it was two years ago at this point. And like you said, yeah, nobody cares. Nobody cares, but that's exactly it. Giselle has nothing else that she feels like she wants to show us. So she's gonna stir up drama between her and Kay. And she's gonna stir up drama between Kay and Kiana, Wendy, Kiana and Wendy. It's like enough.

Kelli (08:27.508)
I'm sure it was.

Kelli (08:46.435)
Mm-hmm. It's, yeah, it's just dumb.

Wendy (08:54.028)
I mean...

Then Kiana said, you it actually wasn't me that said it, it was Wendy. you Wendy said that you were a snake and you were the worst person on the planet. And Wendy's like freaking out. I said that to Giselle's face and Giselle's like, yeah, yeah, she told me that already.

Kelli (09:12.601)
Right. So like, what are we doing? What are we doing?

Wendy (09:12.671)
like

Wendy (09:16.16)
Exactly. What are we doing?

I liked how Tia jumped in. She said, know, what Giselle went through was horrible. You know, I lost my dad and we find out she lost her dad eight years ago. And you could see it. She's still very emotional about it. She said she's got three years before she can even be right. I don't know where she came up that arbitrary number three years, but okay.

Kelli (09:32.453)
Yeah.

Kelli (09:36.325)
Yeah.

I don't know either.

Wendy (09:41.166)
But we did get to find out a little bit more about Tia. I liked that she now for the second time is trying to defuse the situation and use calm, rational logic. Because they are not used to that in this group. They're not used to that. They're used to just like spewing hate and acting like lunatics and bringing up things that don't matter. That's what they do.

Kelli (10:09.499)
Right. Right.

Wendy (10:10.476)
I mean, the big thing with Stacey is they were bringing up her breath. Because they couldn't get her, it was horrible, they couldn't get her about her divorce. So okay, we're gonna attack her about her breath.

Kelli (10:15.099)
was awful.

Kelli (10:20.229)
Right. Right. And now look, now the whole thing is Gisele acting like, trying to act like she's not there by not giving her any personal items, personalized items. Like it's so, it's jealousy, it's envy. She's green, Gisele's green.

Wendy (10:30.112)
Exactly. Yeah.

Wendy (10:40.204)
Yep, just like she is right behind me. Green.

Kelli (10:42.447)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (10:45.868)
I mean, so Giselle and Kay agreed to squash it. They're going to move forward. I mean, let's just hope so.

Kelli (10:52.357)
Well, it's easy to squash something that is, you know, means nothing. And phony.

Wendy (10:57.74)
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So now the ladies are all taking pictures on the boat and they're all posing. Jassy jumps off the boat with her bride bathing suit and Ashley jumps in as well and they're hanging out in the water and on that big floaty raft thing. Nobody else is willing to go in the water. They're afraid of it.

Then they get back on the boat and they need to get ready for dinner. So they're taking the boat to dinner. I didn't realize that until it actually happened. They went to a place called Orchard Bay Beach Resort, which was absolutely beautiful, that place.

Kelli (11:34.917)
Yeah, it was. It really was.

Wendy (11:39.342)
Giselle has name cards for everyone as to where they're supposed to be sitting. So she did give Stacey a name card there so she knew where to sit.

Kelli (11:49.776)
Yeah, well at some point earlier in the episode, she's like, I'm starting to feel a little bit better about Stacey. So I guess now she can acknowledge her. Maybe she realizes that her attempts have failed to make us not want Stacey. What she's doing is making us want more of Stacey and less of her.

Wendy (11:55.489)
Yeah.

that she exists.

Wendy (12:08.533)
100%. Yep. Yep. She lets us know, which I think is brilliant. think every housewife franchise should do this when they go out to dinner. They've pre-ordered and everything is family style. So they're gonna sit down and the food is just gonna come. They don't have to take each individual order.

Kelli (12:27.717)
Yeah, because normally what happens is an argument breaks out before they even order and people are sitting there starving and thirsty. I would be furious.

Wendy (12:31.712)
Yes. Yes. So Salt Lake City, definitely they should be doing this because Mary is always sitting there hungry and complaining that can we just get the food?

Kelli (12:39.279)
Yes. Yeah.

Absolutely.

Wendy (12:47.054)
And then Giselle starts in with Stacey again. She says, you're going to Jassy's wedding, correct? And she said, yeah. She's like, I believe so, yes. And then Ashley jumps in, well, you were invited to be in the wedding, weren't you? And she's like, yes. And I declined. We discussed that. And Jassy said, listen, I love Stacey. And I would love her to be a part of my wedding in any way she feels comfortable with.

But it was just those two trying to stir it up.

Kelli (13:19.825)
So Stacey says she declined due to her businesses, but her intentions are to be there to support her. Giselle says she didn't know, basically she didn't think Jassy was coming back on the show and that's why she declined. But don't you think that Jassy asked her as part of being on the show? Do you think if Jassy and Stacey weren't on Real Housewives of Potomac, would Jassy really have asked Stacey? Like that's why I think that Jassy is very unbothered by all of this. She's on the show.

Stacey's back on the show, she's getting married. She probably asked Stacey so it could be part of the show, but since she's on the show anyway, what does she care? You know what I'm saying?

Wendy (14:00.526)
I mean, it could be, but I do remember, I mean, at the end of last season, Stacey and Jassy, they were there for Mia. Like they went to Mia's birthday party.

Kelli (14:10.341)
Yeah, they went to Miami, but they both admit that they hadn't hung out since then. So it's not like they were good friends or became good friends because of the show. I think they were both, I think both of their reasons for not being in the wedding and for asking her to be in the wedding were based around the show. But listen, they're both back on the show. So if Stacey doesn't want to be in the wedding, Jassy don't care. She's back on the show too.

Wendy (14:18.806)
Right. Right.

Wendy (14:27.948)
Very, very possible.

Right.

Right, right. But again, it's just Giselle and Ashley trying to make something out of nothing.

Kelli (14:42.065)
Of course it is. It's deflection, so nobody's looking at them because they got nothing or they're choosing not to have anything.

Wendy (14:48.622)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (14:53.521)
How about then what happens next with Jassy and Tia? This is a little wild.

Wendy (14:58.146)
Yeah, so then, yeah, so Tia says to Jassy, you know, the other day I was trying to defuse the fire of the catfish situation with the filters and you said I do the same thing. Tia said, well, if I'm heavily filtered, like I would like somebody to tell me. And Jassy said, well, you are. So Tia said at the time she's like, okay, thank you. So she said, after that conversation I decided to look at your Instagram and I feel like you're just as filtered as I am.

think mine is any different than yours.

Kelli (15:29.475)
And Jassy's was, it really was.

Wendy (15:32.558)
They were both filtered. Yeah. So Jassy's kind of gets like indignant. She's like, absolutely not the same. Actually several, many of mine of my pictures are not filtered at all. And I was just like, ugh. Tia said, yeah, but I was trying to defuse the fire and I feel like you were trying to heighten the fire, which was the point that she was making.

Kelli (15:47.973)
Yeah, I call bullshit on that.

Kelli (15:56.411)
Right, right.

Wendy (15:58.068)
And then Jassy says, well, let me tell you something as she's pointing the fork at her. I mean, honestly, I, and Tia's like, don't point that towards me. And I don't blame her. Like who does that?

Kelli (16:10.833)
Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

Wendy (16:13.966)
I don't know why she got so defensive.

Kelli (16:19.109)
Because she's trying too hard. She's trying too hard to stay on this show. I mean, the basis of why she got so upset, Tia said that Darius has competition laughing because Mr. Sunshine thought she was very attractive. That's a compliment, asshole. What's wrong with you? Like, what's wrong with you? And why is Tia apologizing?

Wendy (16:39.37)
Right. Right.

Kelli (16:47.599)
I would have told her to go eff herself if she came at me like that, but that's not Taya.

Wendy (16:50.03)
Because I think because T is a classy lady. T is, I like T a lot. And this is what I think. I think because T is a full-time housewife and Jassy is not, I think Jassy is trying to put T in her place. But T is not, she's not gonna have it. She's not gonna have it.

Kelli (16:54.544)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:04.048)
Yes.

Kelli (17:07.697)
100%.

Kelli (17:13.655)
No, listen, we really liked Jassie last season. We really did. And I did think that she should have had a full-time spot, but she doesn't. So it doesn't mean you come into the season like this, because this is not a good luck. You have to like, you got to settle down. Nobody was, nobody, nobody, let's put it this way. If Jassie's relationship was Stacy's relationship, they'd be pummeling her right now about those kids and when he had those kids.

Wendy (17:25.621)
Right.

Kelli (17:42.49)
And when you started dating, they're barely asking you any questions about that. Nobody even cares. You're marrying Darius. He obviously loves you. Okay, he's got two kids from somebody else. Nobody cares. And nobody's giving you any problems about it. So just sit down. What are you coming at Tia for? Because she said Mr. Sunshine was attracted to you? That's a compliment. Obviously he's not competition for Darius. Look at Darius and look at Mr. Sunshine.

Wendy (17:48.237)
Right.

Wendy (18:00.076)
I totally agree.

Wendy (18:10.262)
Yeah, who was it that said he's got two teeth and two dreads? who said that?

Kelli (18:13.265)
I don't know who said it, but they were correct

Wendy (18:21.773)
Who said that?

Kiorna. Kiorna said that. We're talking about a man with two teeth and two dreads. Obviously not competition for Darius.

Kelli (18:26.993)
I mean, it was great. That was great.

Yeah, nobody's, no, no competition for Darius. So just relax. It was a compliment. She was saying it in a nice way and you were trying way too hard.

Wendy (18:44.204)
That's it. And even in her confessional, Giselle said, know, you know, she tried to, she's like, you know, Jassie and Darius had a lot to overcome to get to, you know, to this wedding. But she, then we see the scene that happened two weeks earlier where she's explaining it, how it was the hardest time of her life. Her and Giselle are sitting down eating. Again, would have loved to see that scene when it happened. Right? But what-

Kelli (19:07.375)
Right, right.

Wendy (19:12.379)
She had no right to pull a fork, regardless. There was no need to do that.

Kelli (19:14.841)
No, no. But Tia reacted, it was almost like Gretchen and Tamara. She stayed so calm and so reserved and it probably pissed Jassie off even more. Because she was ready to pop off.

Wendy (19:31.724)
Not only did she stay calm and reserved and she apologized, which, you know, because she's a classy lady, Jassy was making fun of her accent and everyone agreed that she was making fun of her accent. And Jassy's like, I'm not making fun of your accent. And then Tia, after she said that, well, I'm sorry, like, I didn't mean to disrespect your marriage, but, and then she said, you were making fun of my accent and I have a problem with that. And she's like, nah, I'm just kidding.

Kelli (19:42.149)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (20:01.11)
I love that she did that. I love that she did that. She's just like, you know what? Like, this is who I am, you know?

Kelli (20:02.659)
Yeah. Yes.

Kelli (20:07.513)
And if we've learned nothing from Dory and PK, it's the humor in England is different than the humor here. But I find Tia very humorous. There's definitely a difference in our senses of humor, but I like, yes.

Wendy (20:20.384)
I love, I really like Tia.

Wendy (20:26.72)
I agree. mean, even Lisa Vanderpump, she's got that same cheeky. Everything with them is cheeky, right?

Kelli (20:33.485)
Yes, exactly, exactly. And they don't take themselves so serious. Right, we take ourselves way too serious in this country, myself included. So stop calling us old hacks. No, not kidding. No, I really don't care. I really don't care. Somebody wrote, somebody wrote something about us.

Wendy (20:40.322)
That's it.

Wendy (20:48.214)
we don't care. We don't really care. No.

Kelli (21:01.017)
And I was like, feel free to scroll by.

Wendy (21:04.46)
Yeah. Listen, you know what? would actually, while we're in middle of this, I'm going to say this. I always ask you guys to subscribe and give us five star reviews and comment us, comments. But I'm going to say this. If you're not going to give me a five star review, I don't want it. Don't give me a two star review. If you would like to spew some information to me, send it to me in a DM. I may or may not respond. But if you're going to not say kind things to me, then

Kelli (21:05.881)
I forget what it was though.

Kelli (21:21.156)
Right.

Kelli (21:27.919)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (21:33.112)
then don't give me a two-star review. Just keep on going. Only give me five-star reviews, please, because that helps us. Or give us something constructive. know, commenting.

Kelli (21:42.354)
Well, we should have brought this up at the beginning of the episode, but we yesterday or two days ago, rather went to the women's expo in New Jersey and Danielle Cabral was there, real housewife of New Jersey. And we love her. We'll go see her wherever she is. And she not only had a booth there for her bougie kids, which is adorable, but she also spoke. She was one of the keynote speakers and she said, she, you can say

Wendy (21:51.981)
Yes.

Yes.

Wendy (22:01.591)
Yes.

Kelli (22:12.355)
negative things, you can say positive things. You're still saying her name, right? So that was interesting.

Wendy (22:17.816)
That's right.

You could talk about us all you want, but just don't give me two stars. That's all. Say whatever you want and give me five stars. Thank you. Because that affects our ratings.

Kelli (22:24.433)
Right, right, yes, exactly.

Thank you for that PSA.

Wendy (22:36.462)
So then they're heading back to the resort and it's a 30 minute ride back to the resort and there's no cameras and no audio. Everything is down.

Kelli (22:48.945)
So was somebody filming them with their phone then? Because we saw something.

Wendy (22:52.042)
It must have been because we did see something. must have been somebody was filming it with the phone, but it wasn't, they weren't mic'd.

Kelli (23:00.593)
It was Angel and Jassy speaking to each other.

Wendy (23:03.776)
Yes. So it was a heated conversation and what we hear is Angel says, this is what Angel said, she's very jealous of me. She's a snaggle tooth, stringy haired, hot piece of trash. This bitch is ugly. This is who we're talking about and she's showing her a picture of this person to Jassy.

So we don't know what that's about. Stacey and her confessional says, well, they're talking about someone who was really trying to harm Angel's family. I was trying to talk to Bobby, coming between Angel and Bobby. We don't know what it's about. And Stacey doesn't know what it's about.

But it is the night of the bachelorette party, so all the women are getting in their sluttiest of slut-slut outfits. Except for Stacey, she chose her German costume. I mean, it was a costume. wasn't, I mean, a costume. But I was okay with it. I was okay with hers. You know what? Yeah, I thought it was cute too.

Kelli (24:03.333)
It was for sure a costume.

Kelli (24:10.353)
thought it was cute. She looked cute.

Kelli (24:15.481)
Listen, I don't know if I feel comfortable enough in my body to put on anything that those women, not that Stacey couldn't pull anything off, she clearly can. But maybe she's just not comfortable dressing like that and that's okay. At least she went along with the theme and did something and didn't just, you know, because, but personally, I thought what Tia was wearing was sexy in its own way. And I thought she looked amazing. you know, I mean, everybody tried, I guess everybody tried.

Wendy (24:21.901)
she absolutely could have.

Wendy (24:41.39)
I too.

Wendy (24:45.912)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:46.201)
and wore what they were comfortable in.

Wendy (24:48.918)
Right. Listen, some people are more conservative than others. Right. It fit the theme. So then Wendy and Stacey are talking about the conversation that they overheard of Jassy and Angel because those were the ones that were, I guess, closest to them during that ride back.

Kelli (24:50.649)
and her husband is German, so...

Kelli (24:55.557)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (25:08.975)
Right.

Wendy (25:12.616)
And we hear that Angel, she tells us in her confessional that she's upset about the conversation, but she's kind of trying to put it aside because this is Jassy's celebration and she doesn't want to ruin it.

Kelli (25:28.753)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:29.058)
They all do these things to Jassy. Stacey does the whipping, whatever. It's Angel's turn and she gets, my God, that chocolate body paint.

Kelli (25:35.661)
Ashley has the chocolate body pen and licks it off.

Wendy (25:42.35)
she just goes too far every single time.

Every single time. It's Angel's turn and she grabs the handcuffs and puts the handcuffs on Jassy and Jassy's like, what was my crime? And she said, well, your crime is that you have a big mouth. And Jassy said, that may be why I'm getting married, which I thought, that was quick. Like good for her, right? Yes, yes. Then she said, you know, are you gonna tie me? And then all of a sudden, did you see what she did?

Kelli (26:06.683)
Yeah, very witty, very witty.

Wendy (26:18.956)
Her handcuffs were handcuffed behind her back and she, you have to dislocate your shoulder to do it or she's gotta be double jointed. She must be double jointed. She was able to put her hands over her head and have her hands in front of her with the handcuffs on. I was like, my.

Kelli (26:19.079)
my god, yes. How did she do that?

Kelli (26:27.835)
For sure!

Kelli (26:36.817)
That freaked me out.

Wendy (26:39.734)
Yes, yes, yes.

Kelli (26:41.777)
that was- everybody was like, what the hell just happened?

Wendy (26:45.28)
Yes, yes, exactly. was like, So then after she takes the handcuffs off, Giselle said, well, do you have a big mouth because you have a big mouth with Darius and he's, you know, he's happy about that, or is it because you, did something or said something you weren't supposed to? And Angel said, not y'all. Yeah, that's what she said. She didn't answer. I was like, I don't know what that means. And then Wendy said, well,

We overheard, like I have a question, like what were you guys talking about on the golf cart? I feel like Angel, I never heard you speak like that before and Angel was like, well, I don't normally talk like that.

So then she goes on to explain it. She didn't want to talk about it. She did not want to bring it up. That being said, I do agree that she should not have put the handcuffs on and said for having a big mouth because it would not have been brought up unless you did that. You opened the door for that to be brought up.

Kelli (27:40.069)
Exactly.

Kelli (27:47.132)
Yeah, because Jassy actually did do the right thing and they all say it. Like she did go to Angel off camera about it. So that could have been Angel's opportunity. And maybe she did say like, I don't want to talk about this on camera. But Angel is 100 % responsible for bringing it up at this party.

Wendy (27:51.596)
Yeah.

Yes. Yes.

Wendy (28:10.358)
Yes, yes. So she says apparently someone messaged her about me and they gave her some incorrect information and she brought that to me. Jesse said, yeah, I pulled her aside.

Kelli (28:20.825)
Now, do we think it's the girl, that specific girl with the stringy hair that reached out to Jassie? Is that what we think?

Wendy (28:29.314)
I think so. Or it was kind of hard to tell because then Jassy also said that other people have mentioned how you treated others, not them specifically. So she heard that information from other people.

Kelli (28:34.672)
Yeah.

Kelli (28:42.161)
Mm-hmm.

Right, All right.

Wendy (28:48.893)
Wendy (28:56.074)
Angel said, now I'm gonna take over. When I first started dating Bobby, a young lady reached out to me and welcomed me into the circle in Chicago. I started being friends with her and all of a sudden his agent, his financial advisor and his mentor called him on a three way and said that she had stolen money from his account and had hidden birth control so she could get pregnant with Bobby without his knowledge. Well, those are...

Those are some big accusations.

Kelli (29:26.865)
And supposedly this girl that befriended her is the one who told them.

Wendy (29:31.872)
Right, right. And so Angel asked Jassy, was it another wag that came to you? And Jassy said, it was another wag who had eyewitnessed to how you treated another person. So.

I, so she's.

Kelli (29:50.299)
and she says she has a reputation of being very mean to people.

Wendy (29:54.378)
and nasty, right. So it looks like it was two wags. One was the wag that she befriended and the other was another wag who witnessed this behavior is what I'm getting.

Kelli (30:10.607)
Yeah, it's interesting, like why? Cause at first when she was talking about, like, well, this woman must've wanted, like maybe she was one of Bobby's exes, maybe she wanted to get with Bobby, but if she was with somebody else, why would she make that up?

Wendy (30:26.358)
Well, listen.

Wendy (30:32.206)
in 2016. She's married to the man. She's married to the man and has two children. Like, what does it matter? Like, what does it matter? I mean, I get that she's upset on this trip because

Kelli (30:34.007)
Right, right, you have two kids, right, let it go. Well, I could see her because somebody is still reaching out and talking about it. So it's being brought up again and that will trigger some emotions that she had back then. But yeah, in the grand scheme of life, as long as you and your husband are solid, we go through it with family.

Wendy (30:49.867)
Right.

Kelli (31:02.319)
As long as Eric and I are solid, you can say whatever the fuck you want. Yup.

Wendy (31:04.77)
Right. That's it. That's what it is. And I think had it not been that they already dragged her for her pictures, they have not been kind to Angel. They haven't. They've been coming for her ever since she... Yes. Yes, exactly. And she didn't know Jassy. She doesn't know Jassy. So she kind of thought that this information was coming.

Kelli (31:18.809)
No. they've been terrible to her. Specifically Giselle.

Wendy (31:34.572)
with bad intentions. Even though it was done off camera. You know, we know we're seasoned Housewife watchers. I mean, we know. And as Wendy said, you know, this is Housewives 101, but you know that Wendy, because you've now been on Housewives. She doesn't know that. She doesn't know that. She doesn't. And it was a lot. I mean, the woman is still breastfeeding. She's still, it's the first time she's ever left her children. I mean, she's got a lot going on emotionally.

Kelli (31:36.005)
Right.

Kelli (31:46.534)
Yes.

Kelli (31:51.813)
Right. Right.

Wendy (32:03.862)
Give her some grace. Give her some grace.

Kelli (32:06.917)
Yep. Yeah, I totally agree.

Wendy (32:13.27)
I feel bad for her. do. think that you can see that she's visibly upset. think that Kierna did the right thing by going after her when she left.

Kelli (32:15.416)
I do too.

Kelli (32:22.167)
thank God, because I was like, what is Kay going to do here? And she did. She did get up and go after her. Thank God.

Wendy (32:29.088)
Angel just wanted to talk to her husband, which I totally get. That's her safe space. The fact that Giselle went out didn't need to happen. She didn't need to speak to you, Giselle. Giselle, you were not going to make it better.

Kelli (32:33.713)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (32:39.695)
Now, please, you're making everything worse, Giselle.

Wendy (32:43.178)
Right, right. You're the one who put the target on her back.

Kelli (32:45.573)
Captain Save-A-Ho, Captain Save yourself because you're failing this season on Housewives. You're a failure.

Wendy (32:51.276)
Yeah.

And Gisele's the one that put the target on her to begin with. I mean, Gisele's the one who started it with the whole filter and the catfishing and...

Kelli (32:56.441)
Absolutely.

Catfish. Yep.

Wendy says we all know the rules of engagement in this group and what Jassy did was the right thing by bringing it up when mics were down.

but Wendy still thinks Angel's overreacting and she always feels like they're attacking her. I mean, I feel like she's got a right to feel that way though right now.

Wendy (33:15.883)
I agree.

Wendy (33:26.178)
I do too. I don't think she's overreacting. mean, we, she's going through a lot. She's going through a lot.

Kelli (33:33.732)
And the difference is, because they did it to Wendy too. Giselle and Robin, were trying to make it like Eddie was having an affair and blah, blah, blah. The same thing they were doing with everybody. Wendy's different. Wendy's not going to remove herself from the situation and go lay in bed. like, Angel's postpartum. it's OK that she handled it that way.

Wendy (34:00.654)
Absolutely, like I said, the woman is still breastfeeding. Yeah, like we need to give her grace, like enough already. She's just left her children for the first time ever. She's with a bunch of women who are not being kind to her. She's in another country. I mean, give her a break. Stop being so mean. Just give her a hug. I mean, now she doesn't want to touch you, and I wouldn't either.

Kelli (34:01.591)
Wendy wasn't gonna, Wendy's not gonna handle it like that.

Kelli (34:12.655)
Right.

Kelli (34:17.51)
Right.

Kelli (34:22.875)
Right, right.

Wendy (34:30.03)
Like.

Kelli (34:30.233)
No, no.

Wendy (34:33.72)
I just hope that this gets better. I'm just so tired of these women having it out for others. I said this a couple episodes ago. I wish they would come to work every day with the intention of having fun and enjoying their cast mates.

Kelli (34:46.693)
Yeah.

because it's hard to watch. I'm not enjoying Potomac at all. Salt Lake City I am, but.

I don't know. I'm just not. Giselle and Ashley are ruining it for me.

Wendy (35:03.838)
No. So this, they are, I totally agree with you. They're totally ruining it. They are. Like if you want those two, give them their own show. Call it the Mean Girls Show. Let them go do mean girl things. I mean, there's nothing else for them to do because they're not showing any of their real lives. So what else are they gonna do?

Kelli (35:21.263)
Right. Right.

Wendy (35:23.554)
I mean, BravoCon is this weekend, Friday. I'm looking forward to seeing what's going on on Peacock, streaming on Peacock because we are not going this year. We're putting it in the universe that we will be going next year with VIP. We need to go with VIP because we need all access. That's what we're putting out there in the universe. And we're going to hopefully catch up with husbands watching Housewives when they get back.

Kelli (35:47.087)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (35:53.072)
Yes.

Wendy (35:53.478)
and because they are going and we're excited to hear their take on it. they've already been giving us, listen to their podcast, they've already giving out information about how difficult it was to get the photo ops. which again, you spend all that money and you think that you should, I can't even imagine, right? But I do wanna say that I did hear recently that it has been confirmed that

Kelli (35:57.894)
Definitely.

Kelli (36:04.783)
Meet and greets.

Kelli (36:09.745)
Ugh.

Kelli (36:13.509)
No.

Wendy (36:22.092)
Wendy Osefo will be at BravoCon as well as Karen Huger will be at BravoCon. So, it's very big for Karen. I this is gonna be the first time we're gonna see her publicly since she got out of prison and we saw that little tiny clip of her. So I'm sure that there's gonna be some information that comes out.

Kelli (36:27.513)
Yeah, that's big. That's big for Karen.

Kelli (36:45.285)
I mean, I think we're gonna see her on this season, aren't we? Towards the end, maybe?

Wendy (36:45.452)
So we'll report.

Wendy (36:49.794)
Probably towards the end because we know camera's picked back up when she was released. you know, sure, I'm sure we're gonna see some part of her, but the fact that she's going to BravoCon, I think that, you know, maybe Andy might get his sit down with her and, you know, get some information.

Kelli (36:52.996)
Yeah.

Kelli (37:06.363)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (37:08.728)
So I'm looking forward to that, that I'm looking forward to. Next episode of Potomac? Probably not, but we have other things to look forward to.

Kelli (37:10.427)
Me too, me too. Not looking forward to that. Salt Lake's coming on, so I'm looking for that. I said it to Lori last week. The Beverly Hills trailer looks boring AF. Did you see it?

Wendy (37:26.506)
Really? I did see it. I did see it. Who's the new girl? I don't even- I have to look her up.

Kelli (37:32.259)
I don't know. I have no idea, but it doesn't look great. I don't know if I'm just getting tired of Housewives or if it's just the same stupid shit over and over again.

Wendy (37:39.468)
It's coming soon.

Wendy (37:49.688)
You know what, it may just be that it's the same stupid shit over and over again. And we are doing this, not the podcast, but we've been watching this now for 19 years. Right? So maybe we are getting.

Kelli (38:00.176)
Yeah. And I'm so like annoyed with the whole Melissa and Teresa sit down thing. Like I'm just annoyed about it, but whatever.

Wendy (38:11.65)
The latest thing I heard about the Teresa and Melissa sit down thing is the one that happened at Willow and Whisk with Joe and Louie there, that was the second sit down. Joe and Teresa had their own sit down for two to three hours prior to that. And then the next sit down was the four of them.

Kelli (38:19.345)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (38:32.364)
So, I mean.

Kelli (38:34.309)
I'm sorry, but Bravo, you put Louie back on the air. I'm like, I'm ready to be done with Bravo altogether. Right, but if they bring her back, that animal is gonna be back on our TV. And that's what he is, he's an animal.

Wendy (38:41.527)
Well, there were no cameras.

Wendy (38:46.978)
They can bring her back without him.

Wendy (38:51.553)
No, he doesn't have to be.

Listen, we don't see Mary Cosby's husband at all. He doesn't have to be on. We don't have to see him. We don't have to see him.

Kelli (38:57.691)
Well that's true. That's true. I won't watch. Well I don't even think I'm gonna watch if she comes back. Well, whatever.

But I-

Wendy (39:09.486)
So the big thing about Jersey, this is what the rumor mill is saying, since we're talking about it now. They're gonna try and get one more season with the four that are going to BravoCon, which is Teresa, Melissa, Margaret, and Jen Fessler. And Dolores, yes, the five. And...

Kelli (39:30.789)
Dolores.

Kelli (39:34.575)
Let's not even, don't put Jem Fessler in there. She's not gonna be a housewife. There's no way.

Wendy (39:38.528)
Well, I think she'll still be a friend of. No, I think she's gonna come back in some capacity. I don't think she wants to be a full housewife, but whatever. And you think?

Kelli (39:47.51)
yes she does.

Wendy (39:52.726)
Okay. And they're going to try and get two other housewives to join. They've tested with a couple. Those tests didn't go so great. One of the people that they tested with, Fortunato, I believe is the last name. That is the one whose daughter rooms with Brooke Shields' daughter at college.

Kelli (40:21.451)
right, right, right, right.

Wendy (40:22.912)
which is how Brooke Shields' daughter is going to be on NextGen NYC.

Kelli (40:28.539)
Right, right, right, right.

Wendy (40:30.264)
So that's one of the options. But the other big player in this whole thing is that Netflix Studio is coming to New Jersey very soon. And supposedly a lot of people in the entertainment industry will be moving to New Jersey and have expressed interest in being housewives. So...

Kelli (40:41.465)
Yes.

Kelli (40:50.843)
Yes.

Wendy (40:58.688)
they're trying to, like I said, get one more season and then possibly bring in like a whole new formula, which honestly I would be okay with. I would. I think I would be okay with that. I would.

Kelli (41:16.027)
So why can't they just get rid of Teresa and film without her and then do what they're planning on doing? Why do they have to bring her back? She's horrible. She ruined the show.

Wendy (41:30.7)
I don't have those answers. I don't even know if I'm right. I'm just telling you what I saw out there.

Kelli (41:35.119)
No, but it sounds very likely. mean, Netflix is coming. I mean, it's gonna be closer to us than it is to them, quite honestly. It's going in Monmouth County. But, know, whatever. But could you imagine the traffic now?

Wendy (41:40.162)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (41:46.199)
Right.

Wendy (41:52.972)
Hmm.

Kelli (41:55.523)
I'm just out of that. Yeah.

Wendy (41:55.756)
Yeah, we'll have to wait and see what happens. Listen, the property values up there are going to go through the roof.

Kelli (42:01.018)
Everybody's property values are going to go through the roof.

Wendy (42:03.98)
Right. We'll just wait and see what happens. I mean, I think that that's, it's a possible scenario. I think it's a possible scenario.

Kelli (42:10.097)
Yeah, no, I think that's very likely. I think you're absolutely right, because people are going to move here. I mean, Jason Bateman's in everything on Netflix and directs everything. He's definitely moving here. Me too. Me too.

Wendy (42:15.799)
Right.

Wendy (42:21.1)
Yeah, I love Jason Bateman.

And supposedly, was it you that said that there was another, Paramount bought something up north? Okay, Lori said that. Okay, up in Bayonne. Yes. So New Jersey may be the East Coast Hollywood. You heard it here. I mean, I don't know that anyone's listening, but you're hearing it here right now.

Kelli (42:30.319)
Lori said it. Bayonne. Paramount's going to Bayonne.

Yeah.

Kelli (42:41.851)
For sure. Yeah.

Kelli (42:50.838)
If you do happen to be listening, please share that we said it.

Wendy (42:54.582)
Yeah, came here, heard it here. So we'll have to wait and see what happens. mean, listen, there's a lot going on. Vanderpump rules is coming out. I said I wasn't gonna watch it. I think I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it. I am. We may not recap it. We may not recap it, but I'm gonna watch it. I'm not promising a recap.

Kelli (43:03.686)
I'm not.

I don't want to watch it. Southern Charm. I'm definitely watching Southern Charm.

Yeah, we could do like one, like maybe one episode like every four episodes from them. You know what I mean?

Wendy (43:21.624)
We'll see, I'll see if it's worth it. Like, you know what I mean? I'll watch it, I'll give it a shot. I'm not promising to recap it. Traders just gave us their date. I saw the Traders promo. They're coming out in January. I'm definitely watching Traders. Secret Lives of Mormon Wives drops on Hulu in two weeks, all 10 episodes. We will.

Kelli (43:24.666)
Right.

Kelli (43:37.765)
See your lives and more in a while.

Kelli (43:46.222)
All at once.

Wendy (43:47.574)
all at once. We will be recapping it, but not all at once. We will do it at our pace because we have jobs and lives and families and other things. But we will do that one for sure, just at our pace because it's 10 at once is just too much to... But I'm excited for that one. I am excited for that one.

Kelli (43:53.819)
Right. Right.

Kelli (44:04.025)
No, me too. I don't think I watched season two, so I'll have to get caught up on that. And if you guys want us to do any like true crime stuff or anything like that we've done in the past, let us know. Because we actually like watching those, but it does seem like the Bravo stuff gets more interaction.

Wendy (44:23.81)
Yes, let us know what you'd like to do, what you'd like for us to do. And yeah, we'll give it a shot. Anything else we have to mention?

Kelli (44:30.437)
Mm-hmm.

Now I feel like we've covered a lot and we're under 45 minutes, so let's cut it off.

Wendy (44:35.169)
Okay, all right.

Yeah. Thank you for watching and listening. Please only give us five star reviews and subscribe. Bye.

Kelli (44:42.895)
Bye.