RHOP-Champagne Tastes the Same in Economy

Wendy (00:01.262)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy. We are talking about Real Housewives of Potomac, Season 10, Episode Number 4, Trap It Like It's Hot. Okay, I'll take it.

Kelli (00:04.159)
I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:15.616)
TROP like T-R-O-P.

Wendy (00:17.664)
Yeah. Like tropical, like tropics.

Kelli (00:19.242)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (00:21.738)
We start out where we kind of left off with the ladies in the Sprinter van on the way to the Preakness. And Kay is still arguing with Stacey. She's like, I'm done with Stacey.

Kelli (00:35.68)
Well, everyone's telling Stacey she went too far saying chin checked. Meanwhile, everyone else on the cast has said chin checked within probably the past 24 hours. But Stacey said it, so she's going too far, says Ashley.

Wendy (00:45.602)
Yeah.

Right, exactly, exactly. So they get to the racetrack and they all stop and they take a group photo. I thought this was weird. Then Kay, they're inside and then Kay walks over and starts handing out $20 bills to the ladies if they shake their ass. She said she wasn't gonna give one to Stacey, but she did wind up giving a $20 bill to Stacey.

Kelli (01:08.096)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:13.334)
That was Greg's money.

Wendy (01:14.966)
Yeah, that was Greg's money. I don't know, this whole thing is weird to me.

Kelli (01:19.894)
It's all weird.

Wendy (01:21.91)
so then Wendy says to Giselle, like, why did you bring up my name to Angel? I've never met her before. I don't know her. I mean, is this Mariah Carey again? I don't know her.

Kelli (01:32.65)
I know, I know. my God. Cause she already, she acknowledged that she was her roommate's little sister, right? Like that's, but maybe she didn't ever meet her.

Wendy (01:50.766)
Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't think she acknowledged it. I think Angel said it, but I don't think Wendy ever said, I don't think Wendy ever admitted to it. then she said, well, cause then Gisele's like, well, she graduated, like you graduated before her. And Wendy's like, I don't think she graduated. And she's like, well, she would have been behind you. She's like, no, don't think she graduated. Which I'm like.

Kelli (01:54.535)
Okay. Yeah.

Kelli (02:13.014)
She says she thinks something transpired and she left.

Wendy (02:17.034)
Right. Which, listen, if that's what happened, that's what happened. But like, why are you putting that out there? Like, right off the bat?

Kelli (02:25.578)
Right, because Gisele's like, well, she told me she graduated in 2009. Like, did she? Did she actually say to you, Gisele, I graduated college in 2009?

Wendy (02:36.918)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:37.194)
Like why would that even come up in conversation unless they were talking about the connection with Wendy?

Wendy (02:42.542)
Right, right. So Stacey takes her 20 bucks and she put it in her purse because she's not gambling. she's like, I told you. And Ashley's been there five minutes and she already has a date.

Kelli (02:51.504)
That's what I would do, Stacey. I'd go to the bar. I'd spend my money on alcohol.

Kelli (03:04.424)
What was that? I don't know who that guy was, but that was like a moth to a flame. Yeah.

Wendy (03:06.08)
I don't know!

Wendy (03:10.454)
Yeah, right?

Wendy (03:14.722)
So then Stacey starts her questioning with Giselle and asked her if she has a boyfriend and Giselle said, no, she's single. And then Giselle said, well, Angel said she has somebody for me. And they're like, well, is he bald? And they're showing a picture of Jamal and she's like, yeah. And she's like, is he chocolate? And she's like, yeah, yeah, they're both.

Kelli (03:36.384)
And they showed Sherman. Remember Sherman? He seemed like a nice fit for her. I wonder what happened.

Wendy (03:38.784)
Yeah. Yeah. I guess she likes bald men. I guess that's her thing.

Kelli (03:44.596)
I like bald men, that's my thing. Exactly. Yeah. I wouldn't mind a bald chocolate man either. I just don't have one of those.

Wendy (03:46.818)
Mm-hmm. Me too. Got me a bald man. Ashley calls out Tia for saying that it was rude that she was inviting some of the ladies and not the rest of them. And she's like, well, I said it tongue in cheek. And they're like, tongue in cheek? What's tongue in cheek? You've heard of tongue in cheek, haven't you?

Kelli (03:59.382)
You

Kelli (04:16.714)
Yeah, and of course this is another flashback that we didn't see in the moment. Like this would have been helpful to see in the moment, because we would have said the same thing. Like, well, that was rude. And then it would have come up. Like why? Hold on to that. I guess maybe they held on to it because Tia brought it up now. I don't know. But like, did Ashley even know, wait, was it Ashley? Yeah, right? It was Ashley who was inviting.

Wendy (04:25.558)
Right. Right!

Wendy (04:36.342)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (04:43.328)
Yeah, Ashley. Ashley was inviting others.

Kelli (04:45.738)
But did she even know Angel and Tia were there? Maybe she didn't know. Maybe she just thought it was Giselle and Wendy when she called, because she was on speakerphone. She was on the phone.

Wendy (04:55.702)
Yeah, I think she knew because she, get a, they get a coal sheet for the day. They know where, they know where everyone is. Right?

Kelli (05:01.977)
that's true. That's true. That's true. who they're with.

Wendy (05:09.9)
Right. And, the fact that, yeah, they're like, well, that was shady. She's like, no, was tongue in cheek. And she's like, I never heard of tongue in cheek. And Tia's like, if I was going to say you were rude, I would say, you know, you're rude. Like, I already apologized. Like, you know, I know, I don't know why you're struggling with this. As she said, I'm not struggling with anything. And Giselle said, well, this is no longer tongue in cheek because now the two of them are going back and forth at each other over whether or not it's rude and what tongue in cheek is. I'm like, this is so stupid.

Kelli (05:10.89)
Yeah, you're right.

Kelli (05:38.814)
It's so stupid. But Tia really broke the ice, because she was like, I'm just disappointed because Giselle said that you were gonna fancy me right away. And me too, me too. She's very classy Tia, we like her. And she's not gonna play dirty. Like she's not gonna get in the mud with them.

Wendy (05:48.172)
Yep, I loved how she did that too.

Wendy (05:54.734)
I really liked you.

Wendy (06:00.358)
Those were even her words. She said it. If you want to keep digging, dig, but I'm not gonna get dirty with you. She's a class act. I like Tia. Well, but you know what? I said that the first episode of Wendy too. Gotta watch my words now.

Kelli (06:07.593)
Yep. Yep.

Me too.

Kelli (06:18.774)
I still like Wendy. I still like Wendy and I'm waiting to see what happens.

Wendy (06:26.958)
Yeah, I mean, we don't have a choice, do we? I am side-eyeing everything though now.

Kelli (06:29.161)
No, we don't.

Kelli (06:33.81)
I mean, I feel like we, that's why I won't say like, you know, I won't talk about any of their wealth anymore because this is the shit that happens, right? Like we think that they're, you know, we think that Eddie and Wendy got it like that. And now all of a sudden, allegedly, possibly they're pulling off an insurance fraud scheme. It's like, well, then why the hell you gotta do that if you got it like that because of happy Eddie.

Wendy (06:58.97)
And the reason we think they got it like that is because she told us they got it like that. Not because we said she needed to have it like that. She felt the need to put it out there.

Kelli (07:02.932)
Right!

Kelli (07:08.138)
Right. And I'm sorry, but if you're going to be on these shows, you should have it like that. Like, listen, I... I think so. I think that's the whole, that was the whole premise of the show. It's women who have wealth.

Wendy (07:14.222)
I think so. that's, I disagree. I disagree with that. I do.

Wendy (07:24.265)
I like to see...

Kelli (07:24.746)
Like Jen on OC, I like Jen on OC, but you know, I don't know.

Wendy (07:32.214)
like to see a mixture, to be quite honest with you, I like to see a mixture of, you know, working women and, you know, someone coming up, you know, like they don't all start that way.

Kelli (07:42.344)
Yeah, listen, I'm not talking about someone who doesn't work and who sits home all day and just tells their staff what to do. I wanna see women who have their own businesses and are working, but I don't know, I just feel like...

Wendy (07:59.01)
I mean, think about New York when Bethany came on. I I liked that she was around the Countess and she was around Ramona and she was around Sonia. I mean, those people had money. She admits she was broke.

Kelli (07:59.947)
That's how it started. Yeah, no, you're right.

Kelli (08:10.506)
Yeah. I mean, listen, even Laurie Peterson, first season of OC, she was Vicky's assistant for crying out loud. So yeah, you're right.

Wendy (08:21.824)
Right. Right.

Wendy (08:27.118)
So then all of a sudden, we kind of it was coming. Jassy enters the room and she goes around the room kissing every single person there. And then, yeah, she really did. And then she gets to Angel and she's like, I don't officially know you, but nice to meet you. And Angel says, yeah, we're a fellow wag, fellow wag here. Which you know what that is, right?

Kelli (08:38.55)
She really had her moment.

Kelli (08:53.568)
Yes.

Wendy (08:55.15)
Wife and girlfriend of NFL players or professional athletes, you know, cause it's not just, yeah. Yeah, it could be NBA, baseball, anything, any professional athlete. And she's talking about her wedding planning and you know, how it's going with Darius. And Giselle asked, is he staying in Dallas? Cause he's still playing. And then Angela jumps in and said, what's his position? She said, he's a linebacker.

Kelli (09:00.362)
Professional athletes. Yeah. Yeah, because it could be NBA or whatever.

Wendy (09:24.632)
She said, well, what was Bobby's position? And she said, he was tackled. Bobby started for 10 years. OK.

Kelli (09:30.442)
He was a 10 year starter.

Wendy (09:32.802)
Yep, 10 year starter. Cause then all of a sudden the ladies start like shading her. she said he was a 10 year starter. And then Jassy.

Kelli (09:42.07)
I mean, Jesse came back and said Darius is on year seven starting. So.

Wendy (09:46.838)
Right, this is the seventh year,

Kelli (09:49.622)
I don't like this exchange though, at all. And I do think Angel was trying to be shady.

Wendy (09:52.216)
I don't either. I don't like it either.

Yeah, I'm honestly, I'm not really liking Angel.

Kelli (09:59.743)
I'm totally on the fence with her.

Wendy (10:02.998)
Yeah. I wanted to like her, but I don't like the way she's moving right now. I don't.

Kelli (10:09.695)
Me neither.

Wendy (10:12.326)
The ladies go outside and they watch some races. I thought it was funny, they're yelling and screaming and then Wendy's horse wins and she's like, I won $5. I was like, well, that was for $5.

Kelli (10:23.882)
Right. And then she's like, all right, this is the first lady. Everybody keep it classy, keep it classy. The woman literally comes up for two seconds, says hello to Wendy and walks away. Did not want to be on camera, did not want to be on Real Housewives of Potomac. So this leads me to believe that maybe she didn't ask Wendy to host an event for her.

Wendy (10:38.389)
Nope, did not.

Kelli (10:46.656)
Didn't Wendy say she asked her to host an event for her at the Preakness? She wasn't hosting an event for her because she barely even wanted to get close enough to the event to say hi.

Wendy (10:49.613)
yes, that is what she said. That is what she said.

Wendy (10:59.02)
Right. And if you notice the event that she supposedly was hosting was like a big open tent with anybody could walk in it. And she was calling it the Black Eyed Susan something.

Kelli (11:09.682)
It looks-

It looked like it was just like a VIP area.

Wendy (11:16.288)
Yes, that's what I thought.

Something happened? I didn't hear them.

Kelli (11:20.616)
medicine alarms are going off.

Kelli (11:25.61)
Give me one moment,

Kelli (11:38.785)
Sorry about that. Mine went off and then Eric's went off. that's funny. Yeah. I mean, I think that was just like a VIP area. Like maybe you could like pay like when Lurianne and I got the cabanas over the summer in seaside. Like maybe you could just pay a certain amount of money and get your own area. That's what it looked like.

Wendy (11:40.056)
That's okay. I didn't even hear them.

Wendy (11:54.7)
Right. Right. Exactly. Exactly.

Right. It's what it looked like to me too. What it looked like to me too.

Kelli (12:04.011)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (12:11.608)
gosh, so then it comes up again about, Kay said I was told that Stacey and Jassy had an issue with me that I wasn't made aware of. Wendy said, well, we had this whole conversation about who's gonna be at the NAACP awards. And I said, do you know if Kay's going? And you said, like, what does that mean?

Kelli (12:34.998)
Yeah, this was very confusing.

Wendy (12:38.754)
Jazzy said, Wendy was being messy. Jazzy said, okay, I know you're going through a lot with Greg. It's okay, I don't want you to take it out on me. Kay said, well, now you're lying. Don't you be lying. You are marrying a man that had two kids on you. I'm like, God, like why are we doing this?

Kelli (12:58.196)
Yeah, I don't know if, I mean, do you think that this just basically comes down to Jassy being pissed that she didn't get a spot and Kay has a spot and Jassy, mean, honestly, she doesn't even seem like she has friend status at this point. I think that Stacey just did her a solid by bringing her on. I think that's what this comes down to and she's gonna just start.

Wendy (13:17.334)
No it doesn't. It doesn't.

Kelli (13:26.944)
throw and shit at the wall and see what sticks with Kay.

Wendy (13:30.222)
Yeah, but I think Giselle is actually, mean, Giselle is the one who's at, you know, yeah. Right, right. I mean, I Stacey invited her to this event, but I, you know, I don't get it. I really don't get it. Cause I-

Kelli (13:33.468)
Brought her on the trip and clearly made the whole trip about her. Yeah, for sure.

Kelli (13:47.894)
And I like Jassi, I liked her last season, but I don't like this mess at all.

Wendy (13:52.822)
No, I don't either.

I don't either, there's like, because there's no reason for it. Right? There's just no reason for it.

Kelli (14:01.354)
There's no, no. Kiarna has no solid reason to have a beef with Wendy. So we're already dealing with that. Now we got, like, it's just Kay starting shit with Jassy, or Jassy starting shit with Kay. It's like, what are we doing?

Wendy (14:19.747)
Yeah.

So then they're done with their whole thing at Preakness. And then we see two days later at 4 a.m., we see them at the airport. What were your thoughts on their airport attire?

Kelli (14:34.846)
I thought that they, for the most part, most of them looked comfortably dressed, appropriately dressed. I don't know how long their flight was, but yes, they were appropriately dressed.

Wendy (14:43.574)
I thought so too. Except for Ashley, she had on denim. I don't know why you would wear denim.

Kelli (14:47.784)
Yeah, I don't know why you would wear jeans on a plane, but I guess when you're that skinny, it doesn't matter. I wouldn't be comfortable in jeans on a plane, but I'm not skinny, so.

Wendy (14:50.787)
Yeah.

Probably not, probably not.

Wendy (15:00.942)
So then we see Jassy shows up and we find out that Giselle invited her. And then we also see that Jassy is sitting back in economy and everybody else is in first class. But I liked her attitude about it. She said, you know what? It's okay. Sitting in the back of the plane, the champagne tastes the same whether you're in the front of the plane or the back of the plane.

Kelli (15:13.398)
Ha

Kelli (15:25.078)
And if she was a last minute add-on, maybe they didn't have any first class seat, like who knows? And honestly, who cares?

Wendy (15:28.066)
Right.

Wendy (15:32.374)
Right. Then they arrive in St. Kitts by plane and they find out that they have to take a boat to get to Nevis because it's a little island and you can't, I guess, fly into it. I thought it was interesting that all the ladies get off the plane. I mean, I know that they were in the front and they're in the van waiting for Jassy and they flash the time. It's 1.24 and they're still waiting for her and Ash is like, no, they just sent the cleaning crew in. Like, where is she? Everyone got off the plane.

Kelli (15:58.391)
So stupid Ashley.

Wendy (16:00.428)
And then she doesn't actually get off the plane until one, it took her another 20 minutes to get off the plane. I mean, I guess it was a bigger plane than I thought. Like it doesn't usually take that long.

Kelli (16:07.828)
Yeah, mean, that's, no, I mean, you're standing on the plane for a while before you get off, all those people and getting their bags and, yeah. But then where did they take the, they were in the van and then did they just get out of the van and go in the building or no, the van took them to the building?

Wendy (16:18.519)
Yeah.

Wendy (16:28.684)
I think the van took them to the building because the building was the service. It was the service, the yacht service lounge. So that's where they were waiting to get on the boat.

Kelli (16:36.021)
Yeah.

Food look good.

Wendy (16:39.936)
Yes, that food looked really good. And I mean, they had champagne and food and appetizers there waiting for them. I thought that was, that's nice. And then Ashley asks a dumb question. If anyone has any goals or things that they'd like to achieve on this trip. What?

Kelli (16:46.686)
Yeah, really nice.

Kelli (16:55.988)
Yeah, like what is she, Andy at the reunions? Does anyone have any intentions for today?

Wendy (16:58.87)
I know.

Yeah.

Wendy (17:05.12)
Angel says, I'd like to get to know everyone better and I'd like everyone to have a chance to get to know me better. And then Stacey jumps in and like, well, I reached out to you and gave her a warm welcome. Nobody did that for me and you kind of gave me a lukewarm reception, which I could see it too.

Kelli (17:24.778)
could totally say it.

Wendy (17:30.264)
then Ashley acknowledges that it's difficult to go on your first trip without your kids and that the ladies are gonna be there for Angel.

Wendy (17:41.55)
And then this is where Giselle announces, I know I told you all to bring your slutty clothes because it's actually a bachelorette party for Jassy. Are you kidding me? And it means, yeah.

Kelli (17:51.311)
That came out of nowhere. She pulled that one out of her ass.

Yeah, out of her ass she pulled that one out.

Wendy (18:00.876)
And then what about when they come up to Angel, there's a problem for her going through customs because of the camouflage bag. First of all, I've never heard of that, but I'm not an international travel.

Kelli (18:14.614)
I never heard of it either, but if someone gave you clear instructions not to bring anything camouflage, would you not bring anything camouflage? Like you're leaving our country. You have no rights. You have nothing. You're going into another country with their laws and their rules. Follow them. Like I'm just a rule follower anyway, but I would never go into someone else's country being told something and then not doing what they told me.

Wendy (18:18.594)
Right.

It made no sense.

Wendy (18:33.218)
I

I know.

Wendy (18:42.798)
didn't understand that, like why would she do that?

Kelli (18:45.62)
I don't know, unless maybe somebody else packed for her? I don't know.

Wendy (18:51.246)
was like her backpack. mean, it wasn't like a big piece of luggage. It was like a small backpack.

Kelli (18:56.04)
Maybe she figured because it was inside. Well, no, it wasn't inside because then they had to put it inside Tia's bag.

Wendy (18:59.532)
It wasn't inside.

Right, right. Which I love that Tia was like, cause Giselle's like, well, we can get, I have a trash bag. can put your stuff in a trash bag. So Giselle. And Tia opens up her luggage and she can fit the whole backpack in there. They're like, why do you have all that room? And I get why you have that room because if you're traveling and you want to buy stuff, you need room in your luggage. Right, right.

Kelli (19:12.554)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (19:22.602)
Yeah, you gotta bring it home. Yes.

Wendy (19:30.726)
then it got weird again. So the ladies are all eating their appetizers. And all of a sudden Wendy says to Stacey, do you suck balls? And Stacey said, as in food? Because there was an appetizer that was like balls. And Wendy said, no, like as in dick. I was like, wait, what?

Kelli (19:47.776)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:52.439)
Yeah, like why are you asking her that? It's like you saw how uncomfortable she was last year with the whole TJ and whatever. Like why are we doing this?

Wendy (20:05.398)
It didn't make sense to me. And what also didn't make sense to me is that

Wendy (20:11.658)
I thought Wendy and Stacey were in a good place. Like that's what people have said that they were the closest.

Kelli (20:20.392)
I think Wendy was just trying to be funny. I don't think she was trying to like, you think she was trying to like, I mean, I agree with you. It's certainly not something I would ask someone. But I really thought Wendy, and listen, I think by this time they were on their second or third bottle of champagne. So I thought Wendy was just trying to be funny. And I think Wendy and Stacey are still close because,

Wendy (20:26.67)
Was that funny?

Wendy (20:30.509)
Yeah.

Wendy (20:34.272)
Yeah, no, me neither.

Wendy (20:41.964)
Okay.

Kelli (20:47.838)
I didn't watch the whole thing, but Stacey was on Watch What Happens Live, and she did say that she went to see Wendy last week, and she just wishes her well, and wants everything to be okay for her. I thought Wendy was trying to be funny. I didn't think it was very funny, but I thought that's what her intention was.

Wendy (20:54.499)
Yeah.

Wendy (21:00.547)
Yeah.

Wendy (21:04.11)
No, no. So then they go, they get on the boat, they meet Captain Alex and he's gonna take them over to the Four Seasons. It's also Wendy's birthday again. so we're gonna be, so, yep.

Kelli (21:17.3)
Yeah, another trip for Wendy's birthday

Kelli (21:24.704)
How about when Giselle said that some of the ladies may or may not have wanted Jassy to come?

Wendy (21:30.188)
Yeah. And she was referring to Angel.

Kelli (21:36.212)
Yeah. Because Angel said, bring Sharice on the trip. I like her. She never said, or at least we didn't say, I'd rather Sharice come than Jassy. We never saw her say that. All she said was, bring Sharice. I like her.

Wendy (21:47.648)
Nope, she didn't. No.

Right. And actually, after the whole blow up, T is the one who said, I hope she's not coming on holiday with us. T is the one who said that. And, nobody specifically said, you know, don't.

Kelli (22:06.314)
Don't bring Jassy. Right.

Wendy (22:07.841)
Right.

But Angel says, honestly don't remember saying, don't bring Jassy, okay? So the thing between Jassy and I is I'm not phony. What?

Again, she's bringing Wendy into this now too. She's like, well, you know what you said about Wendy. So I think that there is.

Kelli (22:30.218)
Yeah, Jassy said, don't say you're not phony after what you said about Wendy. And she wouldn't, know, in her confessional, she's making all those faces, like she won't say what it is. Just fucking say what it is then. You're gonna open your mouth, finish it.

Wendy (22:33.73)
said about Wendy.

Wendy (22:45.014)
And I think that that's what this whole thing comes down to. I think that there's something else that was said that we don't know. Because even, right, even the producer asked Jazzy, like, what did Kay say about Wendy? Like, do you care to reveal that? And she just picked up her drink and she drank it. She didn't answer. Yeah.

Kelli (22:51.348)
Of course not.

Kelli (22:59.828)
Right, made some stupid faces. Yeah.

Kelli (23:09.59)
How about when?

Wendy (23:10.008)
I don't know.

Kelli (23:15.254)
Wait, how about when the producer asked Angel if she considered Jassie a wag of a benchmark, a bench warmer, and she just starts laughing.

Wendy (23:24.954)
my god, that... Yeah.

Kelli (23:29.216)
That was not nice. This man is in the NFL.

Wendy (23:31.125)
No.

Kelli (23:35.794)
He has earned, he's earned respect and that's very disrespectful. Yep.

Wendy (23:39.554)
That's right. He puts on his uniform, whether he's sitting on that bench or he's going on the field, he's wearing that uniform.

Kelli (23:45.768)
And listen, that could be a week to week thing.

Wendy (23:48.608)
Absolutely. With these injuries that happened in the NFL? One day you could be a bench warmer. Next day you could be the hero of the team.

Kelli (23:49.982)
You know? Exactly. So I didn't like that at all. Right.

Yep. And I think that the producer was being disrespectful and I think Angel was being disrespectful. For sure.

Wendy (23:59.35)
A rookie hero. Yeah.

Wendy (24:11.544)
So, interconfessional, Tia said, what is going on here? I'm so confused. I don't even know what language you're speaking. I said the exact same thing. Tia, I am there with you. I have no idea what they're talking about. I'm right there. I feel like half the audience.

Kelli (24:18.782)
Me neither, Tia. Me neither.

Kelli (24:26.134)
Like what Jassy was saying, it's like, she said she needs to fill in the blanks. She 100 % needs to fill in the blanks. Or don't say anything at all. Either say it or keep your mouth shut.

Wendy (24:31.949)
Yeah.

Wendy (24:37.26)
It's very confusing for the audience. We don't know what you're talking about. We don't know what you're talking about.

Kelli (24:39.55)
It's very confusing. Right.

Wendy (24:45.132)
And then once again, Giselle's like, okay, we're taking a timeout. Angel, you good with Jassy? I'm like, how does this happen? Like all of a sudden somebody decides like we're done, like we're just gonna move on.

Kelli (24:55.414)
Right, right.

Wendy (24:59.66)
So she says, yes. Wendy said, well, can I say something? And Giselle said, can she finish? And Wendy said, no, because this is important. Me and Stacey talked about it. And we noticed when Jazzy came into the pre-kness that, Angel, you started talking about how her husband was a 10-year starter. And then they bring that up again.

I'm like, why is this important? Why? Because you want to bring down Angel and Kay. That's what this is about, but we don't know why. We don't know why you want to bring down Kay. We don't know what Kay was.

Kelli (25:28.79)
Right. Right.

Kelli (25:33.876)
Well, it's gotta have something to do with whatever Jassy knows that Kay said about Wendy. Which I can't even believe this is what we're talking about because it's middle school. This is middle school stuff.

Wendy (25:40.064)
Right, right.

Wendy (25:47.246)
100 %

Wendy (25:53.644)
And then Kay and Jassy start going back at each other back and forth and then they're calling each other hoes and I've never been a side chick. And I was like, my God. It's like.

Kelli (26:04.992)
And I highly doubt that.

Wendy (26:07.553)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:10.698)
I'm not buying that, Kay. And you shouldn't be selling it, girl.

Wendy (26:14.37)
Then all of a sudden, all the ladies are dancing and twerking on the boat except for Kay and Angel. Did you notice that?

Kelli (26:22.336)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (26:26.636)
I did like their greetings at the dock with those dancers and musicians.

Kelli (26:33.45)
Yeah, that's when like the girls from Atlanta got to where they went. forgot, Grenada, Grenada? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like that.

Wendy (26:34.882)
Right?

Wendy (26:40.908)
I know what you're talking about. can't think of it. Yeah, Grenada, that was it. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (26:49.1)
So they get there, they find out there's three amazing villas for them to stay in and...

Ash, we'll get back to that. They have the little pink carpets to arrive into the villas. Ashley and Giselle are gonna share a villa. I thought this was weird. Tia is staying across the way in the au pair suite, because that's for British nannies and she's British. What?

Kelli (27:16.95)
Yeah, I thought that was a little weird too. However, if I were Tia, I would be happy because as long as I have a bed and my own bathroom and I can be alone, I'm good.

Wendy (27:26.284)
Yeah, me too, me too. Me too, but I think it's a little odd too because like she's a new housewife and you're putting her all by herself. You know, like whatever, I don't know.

Kelli (27:29.109)
I'm good.

Kelli (27:36.03)
Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah. I'm actually surprised Gisele didn't put Stacey by herself.

being that it was Giselle making these arrangements.

Wendy (27:45.315)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, because the next villa is Wendy, you have the upstairs and Stacey's with you and you also have Jassy and they're like jumping for joy. And the last two are Angel and Kay, they have a villa together.

Kelli (27:57.27)
Yeah.

Kelli (28:03.734)
They're really icing those two out, aren't they?

Wendy (28:06.656)
Yeah. And then they go and they all have their bathrobes with their names embroidered on them and their little cosmetic bags, except for Stacy, and little personalized notes. Come on, this is so middle school.

Kelli (28:20.584)
It's ridiculous. Giselle is such an asshole. They all had them. yeah. Jessie got a beautiful, beautiful note from Gizzy.

Wendy (28:22.85)
I mean, did Jassy have one?

Kelli (28:33.982)
Yeah.

Wendy (28:35.298)
So Jazzy was last minute, but she got an embroidered one and Stacy didn't. Like that's so intentional. Give me a break.

Kelli (28:40.446)
Yeah, yeah, I'm done with Gisele. I really am. Fucking share something about your life, Gisele. Bring something to the table other than mess. Like really, what do you have against Stacey? She's so much more likable. This is the thing, the more Gisele does this asinine shit, immature shit, she's just making Stacey more and more likable.

Wendy (28:50.307)
Yeah.

Wendy (29:07.448)
think that that's what it is. think that she, think that she, people like Stacey, for whatever reason, people like Stacey, especially the viewers, because yes, just like what's happening with Katie on OC, like people like the underdog. They don't like to see, you know, people ganged up on, you know, yeah. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (29:17.664)
Probably because of way Gisele and Ashley are treating her.

Kelli (29:28.17)
The gang up, right, the gang up. And Giselle, you know, she's got the Vicky, Teresa, I'm the show, they can't do it without me. She's got that mentality and she's wrong.

Wendy (29:38.796)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

Wendy (29:46.07)
I agree. even her, Giselle and Ashley are, talking in the villa and they're talking about Tia and Angel's pictures on social media, how they look them up and they don't look anything like themselves.

Kelli (29:58.103)
was horrible.

Wendy (29:59.924)
It really was. It really was.

Kelli (30:02.784)
was horrible. They weren't saying it about Tia though, were they?

Wendy (30:07.566)
They mentioned both of them, but they were really focusing on Angel.

Kelli (30:12.252)
Angel, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, that first picture didn't look like her. However, it did look like a much thinner version of her. maybe, right, maybe that was from years ago. But the other pictures they show definitely looked like her. Definitely looked like her.

Wendy (30:22.882)
a younger version of her.

Wendy (30:27.31)
Well, she said that.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I thought so too. I thought so too.

Wendy (30:38.286)
Mm.

Wendy (30:44.972)
Wendy said that she's been on the receiving end of Gisele's darkness before. She tells Stacey that.

Kelli (30:49.834)
Yes, she has.

Wendy (30:55.54)
Angel's talking to Kay and saying how rude it was that Wendy didn't say anything to me when she saw me at the airport. So Wendy's still maintaining that she doesn't know Angel. Like she didn't even acknowledge her, which is a little weird. I mean, you are going on a girls trip together.

Kelli (31:07.99)
But she said, she said nobody acknowledged her and then they show everyone giving her a hug and a kiss when she got there. Did I not see that right?

Wendy (31:18.856)
She was talking about Wendy specifically. Wendy did not say anything to her.

Kelli (31:23.616)
She really did it?

Wendy (31:25.108)
No, no, she didn't. Other people did. Other people did, but Wendy didn't.

Kelli (31:28.288)
That's weird.

Kelli (31:32.266)
You know what is so funny? Do you remember when Wendy first came on the show and made it seem like she and Karen knew each other? And Karen was like, I don't know her. This is like full circle. Cause they had been on a committee together or something like some charity event. And Karen was like, I don't know her. And it's so funny.

Wendy (31:46.69)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (32:01.694)
So then they're all getting ready for dinner. Angel says she's gonna have to pump before dinner. Tia calls her daughter Alexis because it's her 14th birthday. I thought the conversation she had with her son Nathaniel was so cute.

Kelli (32:17.488)
my gosh, that was so... She handled that so well. I would have been like, shut up.

Wendy (32:21.854)
She did. Yeah. He wants to be adopted. I love that.

Kelli (32:25.716)
I want to be adopted.

He seems so cute. He's so outnumbered in that house. Yeah.

Wendy (32:33.998)
Poor little guy.

I will say when Ashley came out with that dress that she was wearing, what the hell was that?

Kelli (32:44.554)
I wasn't a fan of that dress. Because I just don't, like, I don't, it's just too big. Like, to me it's too big. I mean, I guess it's art, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I guess it was, I'm sure it's couture or something, but.

Wendy (32:51.416)
She's too tiny. She's too tiny to pull. Like actually, honestly, Stacey, Stacey could have pulled it off because she's so much taller. And Ashley's not, yes, it just didn't work for her.

Kelli (33:01.27)
Stacy could have pulled it off.

Yeah, no, you're totally right.

Wendy (33:07.2)
So then the ladies are all sitting at the dinner table and they all place their orders and.

Ashley had to go to the bathroom and then Jassy went with her. And then Stacey starts talking about...

Kelli (33:20.372)
Yeah.

Wendy (33:28.28)
about Takei, like I don't, you know, I didn't really know, I don't really talk to you that much. I didn't really know that you and Greg were back together. And which was weird because she was at her house for the preakness and she was talking to Greg. I mean, unless that's what she was referring to, like she didn't know it prior to that.

Kelli (33:44.052)
think that's what she meant, like that sparked the thought in her head, like, they must be back together. Yeah.

Wendy (33:49.844)
Okay. Yeah. Stacey seemed like, you know, she was genuinely happy that they were back together.

And then Tia brings up, I feel like I've never seen you two speak, Angel and Wendy. I'm like, why would she say that?

Kelli (34:09.846)
Yeah. I don't know.

Wendy (34:11.148)
I mean, that unless you know.

Wendy (34:16.744)
I feel like that was totally produced.

Kelli (34:18.804)
Yeah, for sure. Somebody had to say it, so why not it be Tia, the new girl.

Wendy (34:22.909)
but why like why put tea into that mess?

Kelli (34:27.51)
Giselle did bring her on the show, so maybe Giselle told her to ask.

Wendy (34:31.928)
probably. That's probably it.

Kelli (34:33.814)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (34:35.69)
So she mentions that you said you went to school together and Angel said, well, she feels like she was attacked by Wendy. Wendy said, I don't think you can use verbiage and say I attacked you. Certain terms to weaponize anything I do or say and try and villainize me. So again, that's my position. I was like, wait, what?

Kelli (35:00.714)
These women throw around the word attack so much and on other franchises, we have seen how this has turned out. Remember when Dory said to Garcelle, she attacked her and what that turned into?

It's interesting to me that these women are throwing this word attack around so much.

Wendy (35:25.911)
Yeah.

Kelli (35:28.86)
I will give Giselle this. She can be fucking funny. When she said, when she brought up the pictures of Angel and said she felt like she was catfished. I almost fell off my chair. I love that show Catfish on MTV, which I think it's going off now, but I laughed so hard. That was funny.

Wendy (35:39.13)
my god.

Wendy (35:43.2)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Wendy (35:53.164)
And that's when Angel said, well, it's a picture I took a little while ago. I just reposted it. It's not like I just put, you know. And I don't know. she's like, Tia's like, she just had a baby 19 months ago. So of course she's going to look different.

Kelli (36:03.284)
Yeah, yeah. I'm still, I still have my baby weight 18 years ago.

Wendy (36:08.703)
There you go!

Wendy (36:12.918)
I was like, that picture's not filtered. That picture's not you. I'm like, of course the picture's her.

Kelli (36:19.87)
It's her, it's her. It's just a very thin picture of her. And maybe she had, like maybe it was an event, maybe it was a photo shoot. She had heavy contouring on her face. Like, you know, we see what people do with contouring.

Wendy (36:33.71)
yeah.

Wendy (36:41.642)
Angel in her confessional says, know, there's some ladies at the table laughing along with Giselle, you know, her, but half these women at this table are running to the operating table to make themselves look better instead of an Instagram. No, she's not wrong. She's absolutely not wrong. I don't you remember when Wendy had the party after her surgery? We got to meet them.

Kelli (36:53.974)
You're not wrong.

Kelli (37:01.652)
Yeah, I forget what their name is. Something and Ness. I forget what she named them. Happy and Ness, yep.

Wendy (37:06.604)
happiness, happiness, that's right.

Wendy (37:17.912)
And then they're arguing back and forth about the pictures. They're all jumping in at this point. Ashley's jumping in, Stacey's jumping in.

Kelli (37:21.962)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (37:27.722)
And then Wendy brings up that Stacey had no name on her robe. And Ashley sitting in the corner laughing.

Wendy (37:33.133)
Right.

Wendy (37:37.25)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (37:38.108)
Ashley was sitting there laughing.

Wendy (37:46.058)
And Wendy is saying, Giselle is telling you that the person you report yourself to be in person is not the person that you are portraying. And she's literally pointing her finger in her face, very, in your face, literally in your face. And I was like, that is not right. Like that is not right. It was just demeaning. It was very demeaning the way she was speaking to her.

Kelli (38:04.224)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (38:15.904)
Yep. Listen, this.

Wendy (38:17.826)
And then once again, Gisele's like, okay, you're all good.

Kelli (38:22.154)
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

And Stacey asks Gisele about her man.

Wendy (38:30.743)
yeah, and then she brings up his name.

And Gisele admitted that she's been out with him more than once. But listen, just because she's been out with him a couple times doesn't mean it's her boyfriend.

Kelli (38:43.89)
No, I totally agree with that. I mean, and I understand what Stacey's saying, like, cause they were coming so hard at her last year for TJ, but you brought TJ on the show, he was filming with you and you were, it was weird. And it was weird to watch. It was very cringy, it was very uncomfortable. So, you know, at least Gisele's not doing that. Listen, let's just be thankful she doesn't have some fake ass relationship on this season, like she did with her ex-husband.

Wendy (38:45.922)
Yeah, I mean I don't-

Wendy (38:56.812)
Right, it's totally different. Yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (39:14.348)
Right. And then Ashley gives the lowdown on him. know, she was there when she met him at a birthday party and you know, he's wearing a Fendi sweater and you know, Gisele loves a man with designer clothes and he's a very, he's very intellectual. And then Jassy asks, who at this table has been on a date with an NFL player? And that's when they bring up.

Kelli (39:40.662)
That was a setup if I've ever seen one. So Jassy is Giselle and Ashley's employee at this

Wendy (39:43.79)
100 % 100 %

Wendy (39:50.038)
Right. And that's why she's there.

Kelli (39:52.598)
Yeah, that's why she's there.

Wendy (39:54.198)
so they can bring up the Chris Samuels and Monique.

Kelli (40:01.175)
Stacey did look.

Wendy (40:01.504)
It's surprised.

Kelli (40:05.162)
very surprised that that came up. It did not seem that Stacey knew that this was going to be a topic of conversation. At all.

Wendy (40:07.384)
She did look surprised.

Wendy (40:16.606)
Yeah, she definitely looks surprised. She definitely looks surprised. Did you see on social media the receipts that were put out by TJ?

Kelli (40:26.484)
No.

Wendy (40:28.046)
It's not an actual receipt, but what it is is a one page document that appears to be signed by Stacey saying that she will get... is that where it was? You don't think it's real? Okay.

Kelli (40:36.284)
the thing that Gina sent us. I think that's, yeah, no. If you're entering into an agreement and it says, Stacey, blah, blah, enter into an agreement with so-and-so, they both have to sign it.

Wendy (40:53.292)
Yeah. The interesting thing is that, and again, we're only getting what she saw. Ashley said that it had her salary listed on the court filing that she saw that the friend showed her when they were at that luncheon together. And nobody else would have known that information. But I'm like, well, how do you know that that's information?

Kelli (40:53.718)
There's one signature on that.

Kelli (41:14.834)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Kelli (41:22.73)
Yeah, I don't believe a word that comes out of Ashley's mouth.

Wendy (41:25.899)
No, I guess you're right.

Kelli (41:28.286)
And the other thing with the Melissa and Wendy connection, I don't.

I don't believe that either, that Wendy Gourga. That thing, I think you sent it today.

Wendy (41:40.052)
Melissa.

What Melissa I want to do connection? No, no, Gina sent it and I couldn't open it. I couldn't even open it.

Kelli (41:49.795)
Gina sent it, okay. So it's alleging that, like not saying that Melissa was guilty of anything. This is all alleged, this is all alleged, I don't even believe it. It's something like there's like a bigger thing going on and Melissa put Wendy in contact with certain people of wealth and.

Wendy (41:56.3)
It was just a picture, I couldn't even open it.

Kelli (42:16.842)
It's not very clear. I don't believe it for a second, quite honestly. To me, looks like something Louie put out, made up and put out. But it was, I don't know. Nah.

Wendy (42:28.096)
Not real, okay, probably not. I mean, I can't imagine. I just can't imagine she's got time for that. I mean, she's so busy with her sprinkle cookies and her sprinkle crumb cake empire and her envy.

Kelli (42:31.924)
No, no, exactly.

I mean, do we really think that Melissa and Wendy are that close all of a sudden where she's giving her like contact? You know what I mean? I know these housewives do stuff for each other, help each other out with glam and stuff like that, I mean, I think it's all bullshit.

Wendy (42:44.704)
No. No.

Wendy (42:51.896)
I don't think so. I do too. I do too. All right. So the question is, do we want to continue talking about if K, no, not K, if Angel and Wendy really know each other?

Kelli (43:10.912)
Yeah, like do we really care at this point?

Wendy (43:12.81)
No, we don't. I don't care. It doesn't matter. It's not relevant to this story.

Kelli (43:15.658)
Right. No, and I don't even care if Angel graduated from college or not. listen, you are married to a very, very handsome man who happens to be an ex-NFL player. You clearly are happy and doing well, and you have beautiful, healthy children. Does it really matter if she graduated college at this point? Right, right.

Wendy (43:23.874)
I don't either.

Wendy (43:40.174)
No, does not. Doesn't matter to me.

Kelli (43:45.364)
Me neither.

Wendy (43:46.914)
Yeah. All right. So until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (43:54.72)
Bye.