Jan. 14, 2026

RHOP-$14K Lies, No Water, and Broken Trust

RHOP-$14K Lies, No Water, and Broken Trust

Send us a text RHOP-$14K Lies, No Water, and Broken Trust RHOP S10 E14 – “High and Dry” Podcast Summary This episode picks up mid-chaos with Angel confronting rumors being spread about her finances and real estate dealings. Wendy reveals that a realtor friend claimed Angel wanted a $14,000/month property while only willing to pay $1,000—which Angel vehemently denies, jumping up to defend her “rich ass” and insisting she did pay $14K. The group debates the realtor’s credibility, with Wendy sta...

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RHOP-$14K Lies, No Water, and Broken Trust

RHOP S10 E14 – “High and Dry” Podcast Summary

This episode picks up mid-chaos with Angel confronting rumors being spread about her finances and real estate dealings. Wendy reveals that a realtor friend claimed Angel wanted a $14,000/month property while only willing to pay $1,000—which Angel vehemently denies, jumping up to defend her “rich ass” and insisting she did pay $14K. The group debates the realtor’s credibility, with Wendy standing firm that her friend has no reason to lie. Stacey suggests calling the agent on the spot, but Angel shuts it down, insisting not everything needs to be handled publicly.

Angel attempts to reset with a “mindful moment,” declaring her business will open in 2026 regardless of gossip. Tensions linger as the ladies move into a yoga-style intention-setting session—where Giselle’s only intention is securing a room with a bathroom, foreshadowing what’s to come.

Housing drama explodes when it’s revealed not everyone can stay at Angel’s estate. Kiana and Tia end up back at Angel’s house, while others are left at a distant rental. Giselle immediately questions the logistics, fairness, and lack of amenities. Meanwhile, Angel calls complaints about the $1.6M home “ingratitude.”

The mixer at Angel’s property is visually stunning—36 acres, open-fire dining, violinist, oxygen bar—but the vibe is off. Giselle directly tells Angel her hosting energy was “whacked,” criticizing the long drive, lack of water, and separation of the group. Angel apologizes but explains it’s peak season and claims she was unaware of the water issues.

The night devolves into emotional confrontations, particularly between Stacey, Tia, and Monique. Accusations of lying, flip-flopping, and leaking information to Monique’s ex escalate to threats of legal action and custody modifications. Trust is clearly fractured.

Angel unveils lavish plans for a private jet trip to Aspen, but any excitement is overshadowed when the women return—late, in the dark, with no security and no running water. Day two opens with prayers just to wash hands. Giselle officially takes control, calling the situation “foolishness,” while Angel discovers the water failure only after being alerted—along with learning new gossip about what’s being said about her husband Bobby.

The episode ends drenched in unresolved tension, logistical failure, and mounting distrust—emotionally and literally high and dry.

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Wendy (00:01.038)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.343)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:06.402)
We are doing Real Housewives of Potomac, Season 10, Episode Number 14. This one's called High and Dry. I mean, yeah, I guess that's a good title. You know?

Kelli (00:20.708)
I don't know where the dry comes in, but the high was spot on. no water! Actually, it's a very good title.

Wendy (00:24.418)
The dry there was no water in the house. Yeah, Yeah, exactly. So we pick up where we left off with Angel telling them that what's not going to happen is people are not going to come to my house and my property and be telling toxic lies. So I want to know who has more information because Giselle had just said there's more information about this eviction that she's calling it.

Kelli (00:33.08)
That's funny.

Wendy (00:54.574)
So Giselle doesn't say anything. Wendy chimes in and says, what I heard is from a friend of mine who is a real estate agent that you called her and said that you were moving to the area and you were looking for a rental that looked like it was a $14,000 a month property, but you were only willing to pay $1,000 a month. everyone, actually, everyone was like, no. And Angel's like, no, that doesn't happen.

Kelli (01:22.948)
But if you remember the last time Wendy told that story, she says she wanted it for $2,000 a month.

Do you remember that? So Wendy changed her story already. That's red flag to me right there. And who would ever, I'm sorry, and maybe there are states where you can get something for $1,000 a month. Certainly not for a family of four, I don't think though. I know in Jersey you can't.

Wendy (01:30.432)
Yes. She yes.

Wendy (01:37.644)
Yes.

Wendy (01:50.176)
And in the DMV, no, you can't, because that's where they were. Right, no, not happening. Not happening. And Angel said, listen, well, I know who you're talking about. She said that. She knew.

Kelli (01:54.329)
Right. Right.

Kelli (02:06.052)
Which is a little wild. Like how does she know who she's talking about?

Wendy (02:09.986)
Because I guess she was working with her because what she said is I was working with her and she wasn't able to find me anything. And she said, she said my dumb ass paid 14,000 or my rich ass. She said my rich ass spent $14,000 a month, which I believe that she did. And it's very easy. It's very easy to get receipts for that.

Kelli (02:17.611)
that's right. Okay.

Kelli (02:28.196)
I totally believe that.

Absolutely,

Wendy (02:37.12)
She's like, you know, whatever friend told you that is wrong. And Tia is saying, you know, that's an awful realtor, somebody who would do that. And Wendy and Giselle are like, I know her. She's actually a very good realtor.

Kelli (02:48.696)
Now you know damn well Gisele does not know this woman. Gisele does not know this woman. I would bet my life on it.

Wendy (02:52.044)
Now.

No. No.

Wendy and her confessional said, well, there's no reason for me to lie about this. So I might as well just bring it up now. Did you watch Watch What Happens Live? And did you see that Angel said that she did call the realtor afterwards because she didn't do it on the show? And the realtor said that she never spoke to Wendy. She never spoke to Wendy.

Kelli (03:07.736)
I did.

Kelli (03:19.908)
Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep.

Wendy (03:23.818)
So that's a little telling. That's a little telling.

Kelli (03:26.872)
Somebody's lying, somebody's obviously lying. Now, Wendy is being accused of insurance fraud for 500 grand. So I'm gonna assume in this equation, Wendy might be the storyteller.

Wendy (03:37.485)
Yes.

Wendy (03:41.43)
Mm-hmm. She might be. And also, Angel did say that she did just purchase a property in the Maryland area, like she had planned on doing. And she did get another rental after that one, which we haven't seen because for whatever reason, but she did get another rental. So it does seem like Angel's not the storyteller in this situation, but.

Kelli (03:50.466)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (04:01.507)
Right.

Wendy (04:08.664)
You know, it is what it is with these ladies, right?

Kelli (04:12.194)
Absolutely, and I don't like it. I think that Wendy is like an Emily now Wendy and Ashley are the Emily and Gina to Tamra With Gisele they're doing her dirty work Gisele is I mean we'll get there. She is so miserable Gisele You watch her face. I mean she can't even hide it. She is just miserable miserable

Wendy (04:34.755)
Yes.

Kelli (04:42.766)
when she is around happily married people.

Wendy (04:43.256)
Yeah.

Wendy (04:47.052)
It's true and it's sad. It's sad for her.

Kelli (04:50.02)
She did it to Wendy. She did it to Monique. She said Chris Bassett made her uncomfortable in her dressing room at a reunion. Ma'am. Like he wanted, he wanted none of that. He was trying to approach you to see if you would back off his wife maybe because he's a good husband.

Wendy (04:55.491)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (05:02.23)
No, no we didn't.

Wendy (05:11.928)
So Angel goes on to bring up the fact that she does have a business scheduled to open in 2026, her East Coast branch of Wonderland. So she's moving there. Like this was not fake. She's not just there for the show. This is where she was born and raised. This is where she's from. This is not.

Kelli (05:30.414)
So when she says she's opening a business, so the company they have and that is fully functioning in Colorado, they're bringing it to the East Coast. God.

Wendy (05:39.414)
Yes. Yes, exactly. They're going to have it in both places. They're going to be doing it in two places. Yes.

Kelli (05:43.372)
Right, right, right, it's just another right, okay.

Wendy (05:47.304)
Yes

So she says, okay, let's just have a mindful moment here.

and they go outside and Tia's like, this wasn't our mindful moment. She's like, no. So they go outside and all the ladies are out there on yoga mats and Bianca is hands them all some lavender to smell. And she's doing kind of like what she did back at, like what Angel did back at her house, doing some breathing and things like that. I do think it is a little odd that Angel's not participating.

Kelli (06:03.236)
You

Kelli (06:20.217)
Yes.

Kelli (06:27.716)
But she was participating, she was just sitting on that thing. I don't think there was any room for her to be on the deck, because they were on like little deck.

Wendy (06:30.83)
Yeah.

Wendy (06:36.512)
Yeah, they were on a little deck. Yeah, and she was doing it.

Kelli (06:38.276)
Because she had her, yeah, she had her eyes closed. Stacey wasn't participating, but Angel was, just not sitting on the ground. Maybe she should have put Stacey up on the stoop, and she should have sat on the ground.

Wendy (06:43.628)
Yeah.

Wendy (06:52.372)
Yeah, that probably would have been better, right?

Kelli (06:55.157)
Yeah.

Wendy (06:58.496)
And then it's interesting that Kiana starts crying just like out of nowhere. And then we find out that she was crying earlier. I don't know. I don't think altitude causes you to cry.

Kelli (07:09.71)
Well, apparently she took a medicine for the altitude that Gisele gave her that probably made her a little loopy, you know, cause any medicine like that's going to affect your equilibrium. And then she had a drink or two. And remember Angel said like one shot equals three or whatever she said. So I think she was just super emotional because of the mixture of all those things. I thought it was fun.

Wendy (07:37.558)
Yeah, it was funny. She's like, I don't know why I'm crying. Then they go around and they start telling what their intentions are for this trip. And Angel's intention is to get to know the ladies. Wendy's in...

Kelli (07:39.268)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Kelli (07:53.293)
Is that when Ashley in her limo outfit says that we could all have a better relationship with Angel? Well, stop calling her catfish.

Wendy (08:01.686)
Yeah, in her confessional. Right, exactly. Yep.

Kelli (08:07.202)
You could all have a better relationship with her if you stop calling her catfish and say she got evicted when she didn't. I don't know what that limo driver outfit is that Ashley's rocking in that confessional, but it's not good.

Wendy (08:13.976)
Yeah.

Wendy (08:20.234)
It's the hat, it's, ladies don't wear hats in your confessionals. It never works.

Kelli (08:24.714)
Nah, it doesn't work. You're absolutely right. But she's got the gloves on and everything. It's like, do you have a job? Like, are you driving someone somewhere? Are you late? She is. She is.

Wendy (08:31.63)
She's committed. She's committed to it.

Wendy's intention is to have fun. Stacey's intention is to be present and enjoy everyone.

And Ashley's intention is to pull back more layers and to laugh and have fun and realize that it's not that deep.

And Giselle's intention is to have a room with the bathroom. Okay, Giselle, guess what? That's not happening.

Kelli (09:05.348)
I know.

She's just so irrelevant this season. She's just so irrelevant. Like, she has to say things like that to make herself relevant.

Wendy (09:11.648)
Yeah. So we.

Wendy (09:17.952)
It's interesting because we didn't get to hear what Jassy's intentions were or Monique's intentions or Tia's intentions or Kiana's intentions. So I imagine they did them, but we didn't see them.

Kelli (09:23.052)
No, or Kiornos. Right.

Kelli (09:30.892)
Right, right.

Wendy (09:33.25)
They're going back to Angel's place later on that evening for, she's calling it like the welcoming festivities, but in the meantime, Giselle and Monique and Ashley are still talking about Giselle's sleeping arrangements and how she doesn't want to be in a single bed and they're trying to figure it out, like should we go to a hotel or not go to a hotel?

Kelli (09:57.497)
And she keeps talking about this Nevis trip. You were horrible to Stacey. You got everyone else a personalized gift but her. You left her out. You ignored her. You were horrible. You have no class. You have zero class. You may have had a nice big bed for them and everybody had their own bathroom, but you treated her terribly. So that speaks more about the person that you are.

Wendy (10:04.461)
Yes.

Yes.

Wendy (10:11.96)
She was. Yeah.

Kelli (10:25.176)
than the accommodations you provided for them.

Wendy (10:28.834)
No, I totally agree. I agree. And what I didn't understand was so on watch what happens live, Andy asked Angel about the accommodations and she said it was originally supposed to be a couple's trip, but the ladies, not enough of the ladies had a couple. Okay, so that would have been more people that they needed to accommodate. And she was saying, because it was so last minute, like there was nothing that big available, but I...

I didn't understand that. That didn't make sense to me.

Kelli (11:01.91)
Again, she doesn't really explain herself very well, but I think what she was saying basically was like the kids weren't gonna be there. There weren't gonna be any kids, which would have opened up more rooms for people to stay in in her house. But she also said she never had intended on having those ladies in the house. But maybe she did when it was gonna be couples. Right.

Wendy (11:14.822)
Wendy (11:18.998)
Right. If it was a couple's trip, right, right. All well that would at least make sense.

Kelli (11:26.53)
Yeah, if that's what she meant.

Wendy (11:29.29)
Yeah, exactly. then Angel's driving back to her house and she's saying to the ladies in the car with her Tia and Kay that, you know, they're hating on this house, but it's a $1.6 million house that they're staying in. Like, this is not gratitude that they're showing.

And Tia is telling Angel that she, know, although she just met her, she feels really special that she chose her to be, to stay at her house with her. Which I think is nice. And I don't know. mean, Angel, I mean, Tia is a realtor and Angel is looking for a house. So, I mean, it's a good fit, right?

Kelli (12:07.662)
Yeah.

Kelli (12:11.044)
It's a good connection. I do think it makes more sense on a girl's trip if they're all in the same location, obviously. And like Wendy said, like her favorite part, or I don't know if Wendy or Monique said it, like their favorite part is going back to the house afterwards and having drinks, and that would be my favorite part too. I just, I don't blame her, and I, you know, I would not want Gisele at my house either. I would never let Gisele stay in my house.

Wendy (12:17.751)
I do too.

Wendy (12:28.109)
Right.

Kelli (12:37.784)
because you know she's just gonna shit talk it as soon as she leaves. But I, and I guess there just wasn't enough room at the other house that she rented. Like why didn't she stay at the other house that she rented? I guess there wasn't enough rooms.

Wendy (12:50.198)
Well, and even, I mean, I don't even think that's it because even when they try to invite her back the next night for a girl sleepover, she says she doesn't really want to go. She'd rather be with her kids and she is breastfeeding and she spends all day with the ladies. I don't blame her. These women are not nice to her. These women are nice to her.

Kelli (13:06.796)
And we hear how long these days are of filming. Like I get tired, you know? Like, you know, whatever we do, we go into the city, we go to AC. Like I'm like exhausted by the time we get home. So I just, I don't blame her for wanting to come home to her own space. I hope she at least gave Tia and Kay the option of staying there.

Wendy (13:14.124)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Kelli (13:36.43)
Cause I don't know, might want to, you know, if I didn't live there and I was on vacation, if my house wasn't, you know, right around the corner, I would want to stay in the house with the girls.

Wendy (13:45.218)
Yeah.

Yeah. No, listen, I get it. I do get that. But they get to Angel's house and they have to open the gates and you can see the house is absolutely beautiful just from the outside. I love that her husband came out because it was raining to get her inside dry. I was like, that's so sweet, you know?

Kelli (13:59.119)
Beautiful.

Kelli (14:07.52)
It was sweet, but don't you think he kinda should've done it for the other ladies too?

Wendy (14:11.086)
I I do. But I think he's pro-

Kelli (14:13.132)
I'm like, he's not going back for TNK. He was not.

Wendy (14:16.822)
No he wasn't. Kiana and Tia get to go see their rooms and their rooms are beautiful. She has little gift bags on each bed for them with their, I don't think the other house, did they have gift bags in there?

Kelli (14:34.242)
I couldn't remember I was thinking the same thing I don't remember.

Wendy (14:38.542)
I don't think they did.

Kelli (14:40.396)
I don't remember. We might have to play it back and see.

Wendy (14:42.072)
I don't think they did. Yeah, yeah. But listen, it's a beautiful house. She's got 36 acres. It's, you know, stunning.

Kelli (14:54.776)
Yeah, that's a lot.

Wendy (14:57.814)
I did think it was interesting though as they were driving it said 35 miles north is where they were heading to so they're really only 35 miles away but it takes them an hour and a half to get there.

Kelli (15:09.764)
They said an hour when they first got there. Giselle said an hour and a half. I don't think it's an hour and a half.

Wendy (15:14.42)
I know, but then they left at 730 and then didn't get to the house until 9.

Kelli (15:20.808)
really, it actually said the times?

Wendy (15:23.15)
Yeah, it did. It did. It said the times. That's why I was like, oh, it is? Because I, yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

Kelli (15:29.55)
Huh, yeah, that is. I mean, you know.

same thing but like going to the city like it's going to take you longer but I don't think they're like in a city area.

Wendy (15:41.536)
No, but you know what? When they were going back to the house, it was very dark. There wasn't any lights. So maybe it's just a lot of... Right. Right. It's not like you're jumping on and you're going... Right. It's not like you're going 70 miles an hour like you do in Jersey. You're not hopping on the parkway. Right?

Kelli (15:46.828)
Yeah, so it's probably a treacherous ride and yeah, you got to go real slow.

Kelli (15:55.225)
Right exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (16:01.57)
be there in 20 minutes. And as the ladies are driving up to Angel's house, both cars are kind of looking around thinking if there's some kind of Airbnb there that they can get.

Kelli (16:03.126)
Exactly.

Wendy (16:17.91)
I don't know, when they get there, you know, the ladies are impressed. When the angel greets them, the ladies are impressed. There's a violinist there. She has an oxygen bar downstairs with different flavors of oxygen. I thought that was very, yes, I thought that was cool.

Kelli (16:32.45)
loved that!

Kelli (16:36.356)
Well, wait, on the ride there, Jassy says something about Angel.

Wendy (16:43.307)
yeah. No, Monique.

Kelli (16:44.888)
you know, whatever, staying at her house or, yeah, but then Monique said, but you don't understand, something bigger's going on. I think Monique should be real careful because she doesn't know the dynamics of Angel's marriage and she shouldn't be comparing it to hers and Chris's. Because from what we've seen, Bobby's mom isn't calling Angel a heifer and saying that she's gotta straighten her out. So I think Monique should ease up a little bit, especially

Wendy (16:57.848)
Right.

Wendy (17:01.922)
No, she shouldn't.

Wendy (17:14.405)
I do too.

Kelli (17:15.242)
what comes up at the end of the episode.

Wendy (17:19.096)
Yeah, no, I do too. I agree with you. I did also think it was a little weird that after she gives them a tour of the house, she goes outside to introduce the ladies to these men that were sitting there. Jason was some executive director of something. Some other guy was a net worth advisor. I was like, why are these guys here? Like, it was a little weird.

Kelli (17:47.402)
I thought, well one was a client, one was a client who participated.

Wendy (17:50.978)
Well, he was a client and a net worth advisor. He was both.

Kelli (17:56.001)
Right, but I think it all, whoever was there tied into her business somehow. But then she goes, and AJ is Nina's husband, they're like, who's Nina? Is that the woman from the beginning?

Wendy (18:09.582)
have no idea. I was wondering the same thing. Right, I was wondering the same thing. I was like, okay.

Kelli (18:10.879)
I don't think we know who Nina is.

Kelli (18:15.598)
But bottom line was not one of those men were interested in meeting those ladies at all. And I thought that was hysterical.

Wendy (18:21.292)
Nope, nope. And the women were not, yeah, they weren't interested in meeting them either. It was weird.

Kelli (18:29.294)
Yeah, it was weird.

Wendy (18:34.83)
So then it's dinner time and the ladies are all sitting outside for dinner and Angel's like, you know, if it's a little cold out here, can send someone up to my closet and get you guys some jackets. And I don't know who said, go up there and get all those minks. Do you know who said that?

Kelli (18:48.334)
thought it was Jassy, but I could be wrong. I thought it was Jassy. Yeah.

Wendy (18:50.602)
It could have been. It could have been. It could have been.

Wendy (18:58.274)
Then while they're sitting there, Monique says that she likes this version of Angel. She likes her energy. Angel, all the ladies are there, Angel standing right there. She's like, and Gisele chimes in, she's like, yeah, earlier your energy was whacked. I'm like, what is wrong with you? Like, seriously, what is wrong with these women? Why are they?

Kelli (19:20.132)
She's just a miserable person, Giselle. Like talk about whack energy. She's just miserable. She's getting very difficult to watch.

Wendy (19:32.974)
She is. I agree with you. She is.

Kelli (19:34.966)
It's like Meredith. It's like Tamra. It's like Teresa. They're not enjoyable to watch. They look visibly unhappy being on this show.

Wendy (19:47.148)
Yeah. So, yeah, exactly.

Kelli (19:48.344)
So go.

Wendy (19:54.144)
And Angel's very kind, she's like, well I'm sorry you felt that way, you know, while you're here, like, I want you to have a good time, and if there's anything you need, just let me know. And she's like, well, we were gonna call you earlier, because we don't have any water. Okay, well then why didn't you call her earlier? Like, seriously.

Kelli (20:09.652)
Exactly.

She said the water was intermittent, shutting on and off. I really do wonder what the real story of what the water is. mean, she said it on Watch What Happens Live, and she said it in the episode that she called The Homeowner. But.

Wendy (20:28.31)
It's the well. know exactly what it is. That's how these wells work. Like if you don't use them consistently, like you have to, you've heard the term like priming the well, you have to, right, right. You have to keep the well working. So if this house was sitting vacant, you know, for a month or whatever, the well wasn't up and running. So it takes a while for it to get running. Like it's definitely something that should have been done in advance. And

Kelli (20:38.436)
Prime it, prime the well, yes.

Kelli (20:47.427)
Yes.

Kelli (20:55.182)
Sure.

Wendy (20:55.562)
She was told that it was done while they were there. She was told that somebody went up there and fixed it. And again, they didn't call her so she wouldn't know. Like how is she gonna know that it's not working?

Kelli (21:05.676)
Right, right. The chef knew what to do the next morning, thank God.

Wendy (21:12.246)
Right, but again, even after the chef was there, then Stacy went upstairs and there was no water again.

Kelli (21:18.296)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (21:23.212)
I don't know. feel bad for Angel because nothing she's doing is landing. Nothing she's doing is landing.

Kelli (21:29.872)
No, I'll tell you what though. I mean, you watch, watch what happens live. Her husband is ride or die. He said all the right things on that show. So I think Monique really does need to back off. mean, obviously Gisele needs to back off, but she's not going to. This guy loves his wife and is incredibly supportive. And you know, when they suggest the pajama party and she goes to talk to her husband,

Wendy (21:36.332)
Yes.

Wendy (21:45.198)
Right.

Wendy (21:48.59)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (21:58.507)
I would have done the same thing. I wouldn't have been like, yeah, cool. And then been like, by the way, Eric, I'm sleeping out tomorrow. I guess it was a night in advance, quite honestly. If it happened that night, yeah, you gotta go talk to him. But either way, if this wasn't the plan when she and her husband designed this trip for you, yes, she needs to go have a conversation with her husband. And I thought his reaction,

Wendy (22:01.048)
Right.

Wendy (22:17.121)
Right.

Wendy (22:21.506)
Right.

Kelli (22:26.604)
was so normal, like, well, it would suck, but all right. I think that's such a normal husband reaction. doesn't make it, doesn't mean that he doesn't love his children. It doesn't mean that he's not capable of taking care of his children. It just means that she puts the kids to bed and he probably goes and takes a puff out by the fire at that point. You know what I mean? He's probably got his ritual, yes, yes.

Wendy (22:33.038)
Right, and like what do you want to do? Right.

Wendy (22:51.98)
Right, right, that's their routine. Right, right. And he said, like, what do you want to do? Like, do want to do it? And she's like, well, I don't want do it either. So he's like, OK.

Kelli (22:56.664)
Yes.

Kelli (23:01.612)
Right. Yeah, like maybe after a long day of filming, she wants to go home and spend time with her husband and kids. Perfectly normal.

Wendy (23:09.688)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (23:13.698)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:17.614)
Then they get into the whole thing between Stacey and Tia.

Wendy (23:27.394)
I don't know, I mean...

Kelli (23:29.176)
Do you think Stacey called Chris and told him about the conversation?

Wendy (23:33.324)
I don't.

Kelli (23:34.486)
I don't either. think Kay told Cookie, was that her name? And I think Cookie told Chris. I don't think Stacey called them.

Wendy (23:35.992)
I don't.

Wendy (23:39.682)
Yep. I do too. I do too. I don't either. Stacey's with Teemo now. She doesn't need to play these games.

Kelli (23:49.721)
Right. think it's a little, you know, whatever she, I think that, listen, maybe they did go out on a couple of dates or whatever, maybe they talked. I don't think this guy wants his name brought up on this show. So that's probably why she's like, nope, nope. You know, denying anything that could have possibly been let out. He doesn't want to be talked about on the show.

So Monique shouldn't be talking about him on the show if she doesn't want to have problems with her kid's father in her custody.

Wendy (24:22.434)
Yeah, that's very true.

Kelli (24:23.581)
I think, I really think it was Cookie. I think Kay went home and told Cookie and Cookie told Chris.

Wendy (24:28.608)
I agree. I think it was cookie too. listen, Stacey wouldn't, what would Stacey gain by doing that? There'd be no reason for her to do it. It doesn't make sense.

Kelli (24:36.345)
That's what it's.

If she did that, that would be more communication with him that she would have to defend if somebody found out. And why would she put herself in that position again when she's already trying to defend herself from other things? I just don't think she's that stupid, quite honestly.

Wendy (24:55.244)
And the other thing is, you know, if his attorney is contacting her and saying that there's defamation and we want to look at the custody, it's because of what she said. And he's going to see it. Right. And he's going to see it. Right. He's going to see it.

Kelli (25:06.184)
Absolutely on camera willingly. Right. So no matter who told him what happened, right. He's going to see it on. You said it on camera.

Wendy (25:16.184)
Right.

Wendy (25:19.884)
Right, exactly. You can't put that on Stacey. You can't, right. But Giselle trying to find out what happened between Tia and Stacey, because she put them together for the sack race, and they were able to work together for the sack race, and she wanted to know if they were OK with each other. And Stacey's like, listen, I don't have an issue with Tia. And you know.

I thought, she said, you know, I thought I knew who you were. Like, I thought that, you know, I thought you were someone who was level-headed and I introduced you to my family. And, you know, that's something that's important to me. I don't just introduce anybody to my family. And then all of a sudden you were so quick to jump on the, you know, I hate Stacey train. And I do think that that's what happened because we were shocked that she introduced Timo to Tia because Wendy hadn't even met.

Kelli (26:15.374)
Yeah.

Wendy (26:17.272)
Timo yet. And she's the one who caused the trouble between Stacey and Wendy because of what she did.

And that's when Tia brought up the whole thing about Chris and Monique. And I'm like, this is not even the same thing. Like, it's not. And I do like Tia. I like Tia. But I think she's going about it all the wrong way.

Kelli (26:33.09)
Not even.

Yeah.

Kelli (26:41.226)
Yeah, and let's not forget, she is friends with Gisele. That is how she came on the show. So, Stacey and Tia are never gonna be friends.

Wendy (26:46.05)
Yes.

Wendy (26:52.982)
Not as long as Gisele's there.

Kelli (26:54.85)
Right, it's amazing that Tia has formed this friendship with Angel.

But did you see, when they talk about Kimo Sabe, she says we're going to Kimo Sabe and Giselle's like, I don't even know what that is with that face on. You so know what Kimo Sabe is. The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills have been there, the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City have been there. You know damn well what Kimo Sabe is. And if you don't, you don't belong on Bravo because everybody who watches Bravo,

Wendy (27:16.95)
I missed that.

Kelli (27:30.882)
knows what Kim Asabi is. Yeah, she had this stank face on and was like, I don't even know what that is. She's so bothered. She's so bothered. And she, I mean, she has no game face, Giselle. I don't really either, but I don't have a camera on me all the time. Like you, play it off better, Gizzy. Get it together.

Wendy (27:34.734)
I missed it.

Wendy (27:45.419)
No, she doesn't.

Wendy (27:56.27)
Yeah, and I think it sounds like a wonderful day. They're gonna go on a private plane to Aspen. They're gonna go to Kimo Sabe. Then they're gonna be back by seven. The private chef is gonna be there and cook them a wonderful meal. Like, this sounds like a great day.

Kelli (28:10.848)
mean, listen, by that time, you're having dinner at seven? Angel's probably not leaving there until 10 o'clock anyway. Well, quite honestly, her kids are probably gonna be in bed by the time she gets home. But whatever, it doesn't matter. Like, it doesn't matter. That's a long day.

Wendy (28:26.144)
Right. Right. Right.

It's a long day. It is a long day. you know, that's when Kierna says, you know, they're sitting by the fire and they're, you know, having fun. She's like, maybe tomorrow, like we can do the, you know, the sleepover, the pajama party. So we'd already talked about Angel going over to Bobby and talking to him. On the way back, it says 51 minutes later, they still have another 15 minutes to go.

It's pitch black, there's not a streetlight in sight. And now when they arrive, it says it's 9 p.m. And Stacey asked, which I thought was a good question, like, do we have security? I would hope they had security.

Kelli (29:16.91)
They said no.

Wendy (29:18.41)
I know they said no. I think that's crazy.

Kelli (29:19.876)
But I think that, like where does production, like production can't, if production goes back to the house and starts filming again, which I'm assuming is gonna happen, they're not gonna, are they really packing up and going somewhere else? Like I was hoping that production was staying at the house with them. Right? Yeah. I know, I know. I don't, I can't see them leaving them, leaving those women.

Wendy (29:39.298)
I would hope so too. I would hope so, but who the heck knows?

Kelli (29:48.96)
in that house by themselves in such a remote area.

Wendy (29:54.572)
Right, right.

So then we find out that when they get back to the house that they don't have any running water, which...

Kelli (30:03.586)
I gotta be honest with you, I would be pissed. I think Giselle's acting ridiculous and I am not putting any blame on Angel, but I would be like, what the fuck? Like, I gotta take my makeup off. have, you know, wash up. Like, they were outside at the party. It was beautiful, but you know, you're outside all day and yeah, like you just wanna take a shower. I wouldn't have been happy.

Wendy (30:06.401)
I would too!

Wendy (30:20.866)
And there was a fire, right. There was a fire, yeah. A smoke. Right. No, but I would have picked up the phone and called Angel. That's what I would have done.

Kelli (30:30.382)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (30:34.35)
Angel, by the way, there's no water here. Oh, let me get on that. Let me get on that.

Kelli (30:36.888)
Yeah, can you call the homeowner? And if it's an Airbnb, like they have to answer you. When we were in Brigantine, we had to reach out, like, you that's, they have to answer you.

Wendy (30:50.253)
Yeah.

Then we see the next morning, you the chef shows up. I guess for some reason, Stacey's room had water and the other rooms didn't. But the chef was able to turn the water on for him, but then later there was no water. I don't know. I don't know. Angel's on her way out with the ladies and she finds out from Jassy that there was no water at the house.

Kelli (31:11.822)
Yeah.

Wendy (31:23.662)
and that she had no idea about it. know, Kiana and Tia are surprised because, why wouldn't they have contacted her? Which is what we said. Angel said to them, like, if you need anything, call me.

Kelli (31:34.466)
Yeah.

Wendy (31:41.484)
So we're gonna have to wait and see how this trip goes. But we do see that they run into Mo, of course they run into Mo, and Ashley says, you know, he's single now.

Kelli (31:53.764)
She says it to Gisele, right? Where she just said it in general. She just said it in general.

Wendy (31:56.494)
don't actually know who she said it to. Yeah, I don't think it was to Gisele because I think Gisele was like hugging him at the time when I heard her say it.

Kelli (32:04.704)
Well, you know Ashley likes a daddy, so.

Wendy (32:08.086)
Yeah, she does.

Wendy (32:12.302)
I'll be honest with you. I mean, I like Mel, but I don't think he's aging all that well. I really don't.

Kelli (32:18.34)
He's not, I mean, I'm not trying to be mean when I say this, but have you seen the way his father aged? His father didn't age well either. But I do think his father was a heavy smoker, I don't think, I mean, cigarettes. I don't think Moe smokes cigarettes, although you never know, because we're finding out more and more Bravo people do smoke cigarettes, you know? But yeah, I don't know. It's not looking good with Moe.

Wendy (32:21.953)
Me neither.

no.

Wendy (32:35.382)
Right. We didn't know Dorit smoked.

Wendy (32:46.092)
Yeah, mean, listen, he's a good looking man, but I just don't think he's aging as gracefully as his wife is, to be honest with you.

Kelli (32:52.898)
Not at all, yeah, she's much better. So Lori and I talked about it a little bit I think during Salt Lake City last week about what came out with Mo and Kyle on New Year's Eve. But I think, don't they always go to Aspen or wherever for the holidays? They're always together for the holidays in a ski, yeah. Yeah, yeah, so I think that's all it was.

Wendy (33:05.602)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (33:09.346)
They do. They do. The whole family. Yeah. They have a house there. I mean, they have a house there.

Kelli (33:21.154)
I mean, I would love to see them get back together, but.

Wendy (33:24.502)
I would too, I would too, but you know, who knows? Like we said, she did buy a house in Tennessee, but you know, who knows what that means?

Kelli (33:35.544)
could just be because while she was with Morgan, saw property she liked. mean, obviously they like real estate. That's his business. and it is, there are some really beautiful areas of Tennessee and maybe she just bought a big piece of property. She likes to ride horses. So, you know.

Wendy (33:43.884)
Right, right.

Wendy (33:52.642)
Yeah. I mean, it could be any number of things. It could be any number of things. I don't know. I'm excited. I mean, not so much for the next episode, but I am excited for the reunion. They did just recently film the reunion and yes.

Kelli (33:56.418)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (34:11.086)
for Potomac? they did, they did because who's got first seat, Stacey?

Wendy (34:19.402)
Stacey and... Stacey? It's not Giselle. It is not Giselle.

Kelli (34:22.114)
It's not Giselle.

think this might be the first time Jizzy is not first seat next to Andy at a Potomac reunion. That's it. And then somebody gets pushed back and they bring out Karen.

Wendy (34:29.898)
Wendy, Stacey and Wendy. It's Stacey on one side and Wendy on the other side.

Wendy (34:38.496)
Yes, think Stacey gets pushed back and Karen comes out.

Yeah, I'm excited to see the reunion. really am. Yeah. 14.

Kelli (34:47.844)
So excited. Well, this was what, episode 14? Yeah, 14. So how many more can we have?

Wendy (34:56.002)
I mean, maybe two. If not, I mean, they didn't say the next one's the finale, so I would say at least two.

Kelli (35:04.174)
I wonder if they're gonna finish up in Colorado. Like finish this, like what they're doing with Salt Lake, like they finished in Greece.

Wendy (35:13.024)
In Greece, yeah, maybe, who knows? We'll have to wait and see. But I am looking forward to the reunion because I wanna see the dynamics. I wanna see how it plays out.

Kelli (35:15.833)
Yeah.

Kelli (35:24.494)
Me too. You know, and I really hope that Andy says something to Gisele about how she's been this season because I honestly find her hard to watch.

Wendy (35:26.232)
Yeah.

Kelli (35:36.622)
We, we, she, I mean, other than the fact that her father's will hasn't been probated yet or, whatever, that hasn't been resolved. She's not telling us anything. She's not showing us anything, nothing.

Wendy (35:44.685)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (35:48.558)
She's not. She's really not.

Kelli (35:51.801)
I think Ashley's trying with the six to 60 birthday party and the whole mother's partners, you know, rehab, but Giselle, zip.

Wendy (35:58.679)
Yeah.

Wendy (36:04.684)
Yeah, yeah, I hope that Andy asks the questions. I hope the questions get asked. And I'm very curious to see how he handles Karen.

Kelli (36:15.618)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, people aren't too happy that she's, I think it's very split, you know.

Wendy (36:22.23)
It's interesting to me because she got a standing ovation at BravoCon. So, which I thought was very strange. And now people are split that she's, I don't know. I just, I don't know.

Kelli (36:32.558)
Me too.

Kelli (36:38.756)
I mean, she broke the law four times. But that's doing the same thing.

Wendy (36:42.402)
that she got caught. Four times that she got caught. God knows how many times she's done it.

because I'm sure it was way more than four.

Wendy (36:54.039)
I don't know.

Alright, so I don't have anything else on Bravo. So until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (37:05.615)
bye.