RHONY S16 E5: Dingbats, Designer Dresses & Dirty Laundry

Wendy (00:02.029)
Welcome to Wee Wan Whenever I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.506)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:05.422)
And I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:08.44)
We are here talking about Real Housewives of New York, season 16, episode number five, Trouble in Paradise. But before we do, I would like to ask everyone to please head over to YouTube and hit subscribe. Follow us on all our social media platforms, comment, share, tell your friends, do all the fun stuff. Thank you.

Kelli (00:27.281)
Thank you.

Wendy (00:29.73)
So Trouble in Paradise. I guess it was a good I mean, it was a good title. It was okay, you know. the titles are

Kelli (00:34.991)
Yeah. Yeah, considering where they were, yeah.

Wendy (00:39.884)
So we start out with them going to Mosquito Island. not really sure why they spell Mosquito that way, 'cause I guess they're not referring to the insect or is it in a different language it's spelled that way? I don't know.

Lori (00:53.506)
I don't know. Yeah.

Kelli (00:53.519)
I d I just thought that was the name of the island and it w you know, it didn't have anything to do with the insect.

Wendy (00:59.478)
Yeah. Could be. I mean it it definitely could be.

Lori (01:03.885)
Not a name I would have chosen for my island.

Wendy (01:05.998)
No no. Mean either. Mean either. But you know what? When we get an island we can have that problem. I thought it was

Kelli (01:13.029)
That's right. That's right. I thought it was interesting that they didn't show them leaving an airport. Like we always see them traveling.

Lori (01:13.101)
Yeah, we can have that problem. Absolutely.

Lori (01:22.243)
Yeah, no. Don't know that.

Wendy (01:22.59)
Yeah, I th I thought it was interesting too that we just saw them on a boat. I also thought it was hysterical when the staff that are on the dock waving are like, our hands are getting numb and the one person says, We can switch hands and they're going like this. I'm like, how long were they waving?

Kelli (01:36.646)
Yeah.

Lori (01:39.427)
Great.

Kelli (01:42.897)
I mean, how long do you have to wave?

Lori (01:45.187)
Yeah. I really liked the interaction between Erica and the staff. That to me was very, very telling. She was genuinely happy to see th them. They were genuinely happy to see her. She wasn't aloof and wasn't like, you know, get my bag, James. You know, she was just awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (01:46.603)
I don't know.

Wendy (01:52.567)
I did too.

Kelli (02:01.584)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (02:05.902)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (02:06.358)
No, she hugged them. I mean yes, she's family. They are family. You I totally agree with you. And you know what? I I wrote it down in the beginning and I didn't know why I wrote it down, but then later on it it kind of triggers me. The estate manager's name is Carrie. And at one point Jessel accidentally calls Carol first she called her Carolyn, but she also called her Carrie. Like

Kelli (02:11.718)
Yeah.

Lori (02:29.103)
Yes. Yeah.

Kelli (02:29.817)
Yeah. She's

Wendy (02:31.266)
That must be where she where Jessel got it from. Cause I'm like, what is with Jessula these names? So we meet we meet Carrie the estate manager. We meet Tyreek and he gives them all their coconut drinks with the big coconuts. and then they take the golf cart, which Haley is falling off the golf cart.

Kelli (02:34.149)
Yeah.

Lori (02:36.397)
He's a ding bat. She said ding bat.

Kelli (02:36.507)
She's got a problem with names, yeah.

Wendy (02:56.172)
golf court and I think it was because she couldn't hold the coconut and hold on at the same time. It was too much for her. I think she was probably high as a kite though too. There could have been some of that.

Kelli (03:02.939)
She was very much struggling.

Lori (03:04.825)
Yes.

Kelli (03:07.205)
Probably.

Lori (03:09.839)
Got right?

Kelli (03:10.683)
Wendy (03:11.683)
they're all greeted with the local drink, which is the painkiller. Do you guys know what the painkiller?

Lori (03:15.971)
Had those. I've had those. Yes, I've had those. I've been to the British Virgin Islands. Mm-hmm. It's a British Virgin Islands drink. Yep. Painkiller. Yeah, they're good. No, I don't, but I do have like a mug. there's a brand of there's a brand of liquor called Pussers that they make

Kelli (03:21.512)
okay. I haven't had a painkiller.

Wendy (03:22.784)
It's a British it's a British Virgin Island thing. Okay. Do you happen to know what's in it?

Lori (03:40.651)
usually make the painkiller with. So I have like a tin mug that has the ingredients like written on the inside. So I'll have to make first one night, but they're good. They're good.

Kelli (03:46.491)
Hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (03:49.551)
Yeah, that sounds great. so when they get there they're all starving and the food spread looks amazing. but all of a sudden Daisy's looking for vegetarian food, which

Kelli (03:57.905)
It does.

Kelli (04:03.621)
Did Carol ask for it first? And then Daisy was like, yeah. But I don't know if Carol's necessarily a vegetarian either. Or Cy, Cy's a vegetarian. That's what it was. Cy asked and then Daisy was like, yeah. But then, you know, they flash back to her eating her short ribs last week.

Lori (04:10.519)
I think No.

Lori (04:23.199)
Right. So I don't know. Well and you listen, even if it was Carol, she was the one who said, no, I can't have the you know, some wet materiel with tomatoes, but I can have a slice of pizza. So you know what? It doesn't matter because this girl was nice enough to bring you to a a wonderful tropical location. So you should all shut your big fat traps and eat whatever's placed before you.

Wendy (04:23.587)
Right.

Kelli (04:33.027)
and then ate pizza. Right.

Wendy (04:36.076)
Right.

Kelli (04:48.347)
Well, the funniest part is that, like Erica said, if it's on the preference sheet, they'll cook it, right? Her husband's family is, I believe, Indian, correct? And are vegetarians. So this staff is well versed in that cuisine and would be totally fine cooking for you. So if you put it it's like below deck. If you don't put it on your preference sheet, then how are we supposed to know?

Lori (04:55.405)
Right. Yeah.

Wendy (05:01.89)
Yes. Yes.

Lori (05:03.341)
Right, right.

Lori (05:07.982)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (05:08.28)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (05:16.247)
Right. And and just like below deck, you it's not you you're not running out to shop right. Right. It's all provisioned. It all has to be brought on a couple days before your guests get there because there's nowhere else to get it.

Wendy (05:16.926)
Right. 'Cause she said she had Yeah.

Wendy (05:33.772)
Yeah, she said they had to order the feet the food a week before, which makes perfect sense to me. we find out what the room situations are. The room situation is there are two rooms that are doubles, and then there are two that are singles, and then Erica has her room. So th by the way, I just thought every room was amazing, to be honest with you.

Lori (05:36.847)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Kelli (05:56.324)
Yeah. I mean who I wouldn't mind sharing any of those rooms with anybody.

Lori (06:00.003)
No, I would sleep in the maid's quarters in that house and be very happy. Very happy. So so Erica, I'm fine with your pullout couch. You can feel free to invite me next time and I will you will not hear a peep.

Wendy (06:00.726)
N no.

Kelli (06:02.916)
Absolutely.

Wendy (06:03.912)
Yeah, yes.

Kelli (06:11.887)
Yeah. That's right.

Wendy (06:12.183)
Yes.

Wendy (06:15.852)
Yeah, so Daisy and Erin were in the reef suite and Aaron realized that her bed was a pull out couch. But Erica was on Watch What Happens Live and she said there was a mattress topper on it. And the virtual reality awards were this past week and a bunch of housewives were there. You know what? I screwed up. I said I didn't want to go.

Next year we have to go because there were so many more better people there this time.

Kelli (06:44.685)
It was so much bigger this time than it was last year when we went. You're right.

Wendy (06:47.936)
It was bigger it was in a better it was in a better venue. It was actually you can even watch it live. they they videoed it. You can watch it for free live on Philo.

Kelli (06:57.253)
There were a lot more Bravo people there than last year.

Wendy (07:01.196)
Yes, there were. but anyway, she said that she apologized but then she she sent her Aaron apologized to her, but then she sent her a a text apologizing, but then on the VRT word she made a word she made some comment like it was an Airbnb.

Kelli (07:17.201)
'Cause she's a mean girl. Erin's a mean girl. And sh now she's a jealous mean girl. She they're her and Daisy are so damn jealous of Erica. It's it's it's emulating out of that. It's, you know.

Wendy (07:18.826)
Right. And Eric's

Lori (07:22.39)
Exactly.

Lori (07:28.473)
They were so rude.

Kelli (07:31.677)
Unbelievably rude as cameras were rolling and when Erin says words hurt, it's like shut up.

Wendy (07:31.906)
They really were.

Lori (07:41.065)
Up.

Wendy (07:42.647)
I know. Erica is so down to earth. I really loved watching her on Watch It Happens Live. Her husband was in the audience. you know, she was they were t Andy was asking her about her rented wardrobe. And she's like, Yeah, like why would I spend all that money? I'm only gonna wear it once, then I gotta and she's right. And she's and she's like, Yeah, I even buy like, you know, costume jewelry off of Amazon. Like, you know, I c why not. Right, exactly.

Kelli (07:45.37)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (08:00.149)
Absolutely.

Lori (08:07.565)
Why not? Buy what you like. You know what? Because because she's not out to impress anybody. She's out to wear and buy what makes her happy and what makes her feel good. See, that's the thing. When you're out to impress other people, those are the people who would not buy costume jewelry, buy off of Amazon, buy from Pier One.

Kelli (08:10.725)
Now

Kelli (08:30.193)
Well and how where are you like putting all these clothes if you just keep buying and buying and buying and buying? Where are you putting all these clothes? Like rent it, wear it, get rid of it. I don't know if you guys saw this. I would imagine you did, but there are bullying there's a bully rumor Erica, who we're speaking of, is being accused of bullying. Hannah Stella. I mean back.

Lori (08:40.268)
No.

Wendy (08:40.771)
Right.

Lori (08:54.859)
I did see that. Yeah, I did see that.

Kelli (08:58.437)
you know, years ago. So I in high school, actually seventh grade. So I believe this I believe this girl is like an influ I don't she according to her, she was approached to do the reboot of Ronie. And she even like tested, but they didn't choose her. So she must be somebody. But anyway, she's accusing Erica

Lori (08:59.532)
In in high school. In high school.

Wendy (09:02.526)
stop stop it. Just stop it.

Lori (09:03.597)
Yes, seventh grade.

Lori (09:14.371)
Yes.

Wendy (09:18.134)
Okay, so she's jealous. Hmm.

Kelli (09:23.013)
When they attended the Saint Louis School in Waco, Texas, in seventh grade of bullying her so bad that she had to transfer out of school.

So who knows? It was seventh grade. Yeah. I'm not saying I believe it. I was just bringing attention to it.

Wendy (09:33.615)
Okay, who cares? It was seventh grade. Get on with your life. Like it's just that's just craziness. That's just craziness. Yeah. Yeah. So then the next room is Cy and Haley, and they're staying in the sunset suite. Jessel is in the star room. Carol is in the sunrise suite, and she has a un a corner unit, which is very nice. And Erica's suite is called the Crown Suite, which

Lori (09:57.923)
Yes.

Kelli (09:59.43)
Yeah, she had a nice room.

Wendy (10:02.454)
I love the names of all of her sweets. Carol comes down and she tells Jessel that she left her silk pillow in the airport and maybe Erica has a pillowcase or something, and that her skin has not touched cotton in over twenty years. Okay, Carol, I do love you, but d no, that's a little bit too much. It really was. Yeah.

Kelli (10:22.203)
That was a little diva ish.

Lori (10:24.279)
Yeah, you you'll you'll be all right. You'll be

Kelli (10:26.383)
You'll be okay, Carol. I'm sure it's a very high thread count cotton that you'll be sleeping on. I'm sure they're not chincing out on the sheets. I think you're gonna be just fine.

Lori (10:34.285)
You'll be fine.

Wendy (10:34.444)
I'm sure it is.

Lori (10:41.871)
And it was only for a couple of nights. It wasn't like two you were there for two weeks.

Kelli (10:43.483)
Exactly.

Wendy (10:44.066)
Two. It was two nights. Right. So sa two nights, yeah.

Kelli (10:47.173)
That's all they went for two nights?

Wendy (10:52.376)
Listen, I don't know that I'd want to stay there that much longer either with these ladies. It's a lot. It's a lot.

Kelli (10:55.087)
if I were Erica, I would have been like, You bitches need to go. I I would have sent Erin and Daisy on their way. I really would have after after what happened. Well, she didn't know. She didn't know how they were speaking about her place, yeah.

Lori (10:56.029)
and that's

Lori (11:04.845)
Yeah. yeah.

Wendy (11:09.516)
Yeah. So then we see Sy's feeling nauseous. She, you know, hasn't been sleeping or eating well. Like that was the first thing she ate all day. And, you know, she's confiding in Jessil and Erica that she's going through a lot. And you know, we know that and she's just letting them know. And and they I think they already knew, you know, I mean they all obviously knew 'cause it came out in the paper, but I think that she's close enough to Erica and Jessel that they did already know before that.

Kelli (11:40.892)
Yeah, I mean, I I do feel like I understand she's a real housewife and things are gonna get out, but I I respect her for trying to keep things as private as possible. You know, and with him not telling her I'm doing this, I mean the guy's obviously he's obviously w has his hand out. He's looking for a handout.

Lori (11:51.693)
Right. But that's gotta be hard. That's hard though.

Wendy (11:53.006)
I do too.

Lori (12:01.359)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (12:02.422)
Yeah, I thought that was a crappy way to do it. I mean sp her daughters like she said in high school. I mean, come on, like who wants their k well, it's it's not even that. It's like all of her friends. Everybody's gonna see it, you know? It's just not good. and actually Haley's talking about it too, and she said

Kelli (12:05.105)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah, so she's gonna be online. She's gonna see it all.

Lori (12:12.749)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (12:15.215)
Mm-hmm. Right.

Wendy (12:26.242)
When she first saw the headline, she didn't even read it because I mean she saw it but she didn't open it up to read the article because it just brought her back to when her name was in the headlines. Okay. I'm sorry, but I just c I'm t I said this before. I can't watch Haley because I know that everything she says is a lie now. It's very hard for me to watch this. It it really is. It is. but that

Kelli (12:51.417)
I love when she offered Sy a Xanax and and Erica says, I've never taken a Xanax and Haley's like, What are you raw dog in life over here?

Lori (12:59.705)
I know that was great. That was good.

Wendy (13:00.542)
I I love that too. I I will give her that. I totally agree. That was that was good. And Erica starts laughing. She's like, I don't even know. Like, am I?

Kelli (13:04.261)
That was so funny.

Lori (13:04.845)
No, that's good.

Lori (13:14.765)
How about when she starts talking about her alter ego Kendra when she gets drunk and how she loves Taco Bell? That was pretty funny.

Kelli (13:18.511)
Ooh.

Wendy (13:19.17)
Yes. Yep.

Kelli (13:23.515)
She'd throw a fit at her wedding 'cause the food wasn't Taco Bell. Meanwhile, would they get married like in Egypt or something, in the pyramids or something?

Lori (13:26.575)
about Egypt at the base of the pyramids. Yeah.

Wendy (13:29.142)
In Egypt. Yes. Yes. But you know what? That came up on Watch What Happens Live and her husband was fine about it. She's like, Listen, I'm a Texas girl. Like, you know, I don't get it with beans. I like my Taco Bell, which is again something else I like about her. Like she's not afraid to say it, you know?

Kelli (13:32.753)
my god.

Lori (13:33.878)
No.

Kelli (13:38.373)
Yes, he yeah, I saw that.

Kelli (13:47.119)
Yeah. Right.

Lori (13:48.887)
Right. Yeah, there's no hoity toity there.

Kelli (13:52.014)
Mm-mm. No. And her husband doesn't seem like it either. Like he just seems like a normal guy. I mean he's a billionaire, so he's not a normal guy, but you know, you wouldn't know it.

Wendy (13:52.248)
Not at all. Not not at all.

Lori (13:55.744)
No,

Wendy (13:56.543)
No, he doesn't.

Lori (13:59.311)
Mm-hmm.

Right.

Wendy (14:05.898)
No. You know, I started watching today The Gilded Age because everyone said we should watch it. You've already seen it, Lori. So I only watched the first episode, which by the way is an hour and a half the first episode, which is long. So it's okay. I'll watch one episode here and then maybe next week I'll watch another. Like we don't have to I don't have to binge it. But anyway, it was so funny. The in the very first episode, one of the things they talk about

Kelli (14:10.807)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (14:13.493)
Mm, mhm.

Kelli (14:19.253)
Wendy (14:32.98)
in New York is old money and new money and it's just so blatant and so obvious. And I feel like I don't know, is it still the same way in New York today? I mean this is set in eighteen eighty two.

Kelli (14:38.736)
Yeah.

Lori (14:39.107)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (14:45.785)
I mean, you'll hear people talk about old money and new money in Seagirt and Spring Lake. So yes, it very, very much so has to be a thing in New York.

Wendy (14:51.712)
I know. I know it I exactly. I know it happens. I know it happens in in Seagord and Spring Lake. I know it happens in Deal. I know it happens in Stone Like I know where it happens in Jersey. Do you think in Manhattan it's still going on?

Lori (15:05.448)
I would think so. Absolutely. Yes.

Kelli (15:05.559)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Wendy (15:09.23)
Crazy to me. It really is. It's crazy. So then we see Jessel goes into Carol's room and she starts like honestly, I thought she was being so obnoxious, like counting her socks and asking her. Yeah.

Lori (15:09.956)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:24.154)
when she first went in.

Lori (15:24.205)
Like what do you Yeah, what do you care what she brought and what she's wearing? What do you care? But Carol is funny with her tube socks.

Wendy (15:31.181)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:32.114)
I mean, I do think Jessel was just trying to be funny. And I do think Carol has a good sense of humor with that kind of stuff. Like I think she was just trying to be funny. But then I thought that Jessel went on to be very like genuine and start really like, is this the scene, right? Yeah. Yeah. She like starts like Yes, talking about her father and having like a genuine, nice conversation. And Carol's like, is that a drone?

Lori (15:39.405)
Mm.

Lori (15:51.65)
When she's talking about her dad.

Wendy (16:01.262)
Okay.

Kelli (16:01.615)
Like she was not even listening. And it was a fucking bird. Like d dingbat Carol, you can't tell the difference between a drone and a bird?

Lori (16:04.321)
No.

Wendy (16:07.735)
Huh.

Lori (16:12.409)
And a bird.

Wendy (16:13.614)
I actually thought that was hysterical. And I

Kelli (16:17.849)
Jessel.

Wendy (16:21.592)
I didn't. I didn't feel bad for Jessel because I d I honestly didn't because I didn't like how she was going like she walks in, she's like, like you know, what are your looks? And Carol's like, I don't do looks. Carol doesn't do looks, right? We I mean, that's not who she is.

Kelli (16:31.535)
Right. what I mean what she wore to that dinner that night was like

Lori (16:33.551)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (16:37.676)
Well, you know what? She was comfortable. She wasn't freezing. Right? But you know, she wants to bring five pairs of socks. She's like she just kept making a big deal out about it. She's like, but we're only here two days. One, two, three. She's like counting each pair. Like, leave the girl alone.

Kelli (16:39.724)
I yeah, for sure.

Lori (16:41.775)
There you go. Hmm.

Kelli (16:56.699)
Yeah, like I walk around in socks. Like maybe she just wants them to walk around in. You know, like you take a shower in the morning, you put your socks on, you walk around until you get dressed, and then maybe at night you put your pajamas on, you want to walk around in socks. So then she'd need four. And maybe she just brought an extra pair just to have. Right. See we crack that wide open.

Wendy (17:01.912)
Wait, should we

Lori (17:07.343)
But talk's not. Yeah.

Wendy (17:07.468)
Mm walk around. Right. Extra, yeah. Just in case, right.

Lori (17:16.751)
There you

Wendy (17:17.37)
but they're talk th after the whole you know actually it's before she brings up the dingbat comment because when she's talking about all the socks, Carol says, I feel like you're judging me and she's like, Well, you did call me a dingbat and then she went on to say that it was a term of of endearment. And Jussel said, Well, I don't I don't know about that and I guess according to

Kelli (17:43.025)
I don't know about that either.

Wendy (17:44.779)
According to the urban dictionary, it is a stupid or eccentric person. I mean, I I think that Jessel I don't think Jessel's stupid, but I do I do think I still think I stand by what Carol said. I do still think she's a dingback. And I don't know that it's so much that she she's eccentric or if she's just not self-aware of what.

Kelli (17:57.081)
No, she's not stupid.

Wendy (18:11.7)
she says and what's going on around her just because of

Lori (18:14.371)
She can be socially inept.

Kelli (18:16.581)
Yeah. And I honestly the I mean, saying do you think the family is cursed, that was so out of line because Carol's husband, who passed away from cancer, is part of that family. So that was so out of line. But the other thing, like you know, what do you think of the Carol and Bassett summer? Like that was a to me, that was a normal question that somebody in the fashion industry at that time would ask. Maybe not ask Carol, but that's where the socially inept thing comes in.

Wendy (18:17.034)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (18:28.845)
Right.

Wendy (18:46.018)
Well that's it.

Kelli (18:46.213)
Like you could ask anybody else but Carol.

Wendy (18:49.868)
Yeah, and then even when Carol lets you know she doesn't feel that way, you continue to talk about it. Like that's where the problem lies. It's like sh again, I don't I don't think she's stupid. I d

Kelli (18:56.025)
Right. Yes, that was definitely where the problem was.

I don't think she's stupid and I don't think she has any malicious intent, unlike Erin, who's just an ultimate mean girl.

Wendy (19:06.944)
I don't either. Again, which is why I give her just like Carol, I give her the dingbat title. I agree. I think she is a dingbat. I do.

Kelli (19:14.649)
Yeah. Yeah, I mean I don't think it's the worst thing you could call so it's not like calling someone stupid, even though it implies that. It's just like, you know, you're a little airy.

Wendy (19:22.83)
Mm.

Wendy (19:26.924)
Yeah. Yeah. then we see Erin and Daisy are talking outside and Aaron's saying that she really needs this trip right now, that there's a lot going on because you know, she's got the house and the damage, and she's got four kids, and then there's the mescaloom, they're having problems, I guess, with funding or something. And okay. You know.

Lori (19:27.023)
Did see.

Kelli (19:28.111)
Ditzy. There you go.

Lori (19:56.143)
But let me ask you this. Who you're you said you're trying to secure funding, then why on television are you letting people know that you're fifty grand in debt for it? Makes no sense. I'm like, what are you even doing? What are you doing?

Kelli (20:08.613)
Right. Totally agree.

Wendy (20:15.758)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (20:16.465)
Totally agree.

Wendy (20:20.982)
Yeah. I don't know. Daisy then asks her if she's gonna say anything to Jessil and Aaron says, Well, I'm I'm gonna say something to her because I'm over it. She's like, But to me, like 'cause and at this point she's talking about when she went out to lunch with her and Jessel said to her, Have you Googled yourself? 'Cause Jessil was, you know, letting her know what's what happens when you Google yourself and she's like, you know what?

Then Daisy goes on to tell her, Well, she did say that when your house was flooding that maybe is that like an insurance fraud thing? Well that's when Aaron lost it. Sh

Kelli (20:59.585)
she had her Shirley McLean moment. Give my daughter her medicine. she had her Shirley McLean moment.

Wendy (21:02.664)
She yeah.

Wendy (21:08.782)
She lost it. She was very upset. That's disgusting.

Lori (21:11.929)
But Daisy was really stupid for doing that because she her fingers were not clean in that conversation at all. And you know, you know the cameras are rolling, girl. What are you doing?

Wendy (21:20.298)
Not not at all.

Kelli (21:21.393)
As we soon find out.

Kelli (21:27.161)
Yep. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (21:30.391)
Yeah.

And even in her confessional, she's like, You know what, I think I effed up. Like I I like I just wanted everyone to be like have fun and drink. I'm like, boy, Daisy, you have no idea what you've just done.

Lori (21:40.108)
Yeah, think?

Lori (21:43.885)
Yes, she she actually says she actually did say she said, I'm not trying to start trouble. I'm like, okay.

Kelli (21:45.841)
She hitched her cart to the wrong horse.

Kelli (21:52.784)
Yes, you are. I'm sure Erin was well aware of it before they re you know, filmed that scene. I'm sure she already told Erin and they had it all planned out how it was gonna go down. But again, she hitched her cart to the wrong horse. Nobody, even with Jessel saying that about the insurance fraud, because listen, obviously she didn't do it for insurance fraud. Nobody's gonna do that. I mean, that's that would be ridiculous. No, you're right.

Wendy (21:53.209)
Mm.

Wendy (22:08.75)
She sure did.

Wendy (22:17.57)
She actually never said fraud. Jessel never said the word fraud. She said insurance thing. Thing. Right.

Kelli (22:21.369)
She said insurance thing. Right, right. But she implied it. But you almost want to feel bad for Erin, but Erin's such an asshole and then goes and shit talks the ha like you can't feel bad for her because she's just such a mean girl.

Lori (22:27.159)
And then but but then d Daisy added the fuel.

Lori (22:38.157)
Mm mm. Yeah.

Wendy (22:38.678)
No, you can't. Right. I totally agree. I totally agree. and then Erica goes in Carol's room and she asks her what she's wearing for dinner, and she's like, I was gonna wear jeans. She's you don't have a dress because we're having dinner in the pool. When she said they were having dinner in the pool, I was like, Wait, what? I mean, and then when I saw it actually, I'm like, that's actually very cool that

You know, it was only like, you know, ankle deep. But that being said, I would have given people more than fifteen minutes notice that you're having dinner in the pool.

Kelli (23:12.389)
Yeah. And I pictured them

Lori (23:12.535)
Yes. Yes. And the water. We're dining in water.

Kelli (23:16.849)
Picture them at like a swim up bar. I'm like, shouldn't they just be wearing bathing suits? Like, that's what I picture.

Wendy (23:24.556)
Yeah. it was funny though. I mean and even then she goes to Jessel's room and you know, she has on a dress, it's a very long dress, and she's like, Well maybe you just don't wear your shoes. but yours would be fine. They're plastic. She's like, No, they're not. They're loose site. Okay, Jessel. Lucite is plastic.

Kelli (23:48.582)
Why do they all keep accusing each other of wearing Shein clothes? I would hope to God that these women, at least these women, I do think the OC women do wear Shein, but I would hope to God that the New York women are not wearing Shein. I think Potomac and OC, and I'm sure Teresa, out of everybody on Jersey, are wearing Shein. Yeah. yeah, Teresa's definitely wearing Shein. But I mean, I would hope these women weren't.

Wendy (24:02.946)
think that they keep doing it.

Wendy (24:10.188)
Well, she was a spokesperson. She was a spokesperson. She had a brand deal with them.

Lori (24:13.335)
Yeah, remember that? Yeah.

Wendy (24:18.252)
They were only doing it to Jessel.

Kelli (24:18.363)
This is slave labor, by the way, people, for anybody at home ordering Shein, it's slave labor.

Wendy (24:24.322)
They were only doing it to Jessel because they knew how upset she would be. They didn't do it to anybody else. They didn't accuse anybody else. Right. Exactly.

Kelli (24:29.647)
Because she's in the fashion industry. Yeah.

Lori (24:32.621)
Because she's so hoity toity with her fashion and her clothes, that's why.

Kelli (24:35.984)
Yeah.

Wendy (24:38.67)
Yeah, because she's like, I'm gonna get my receipt. This was $2,000. Okay. But what about that necklace she's wearing in that confessional? What the hell is that? I'm sure it's also it Indian designer. I'm sure it is. I'm absolutely sure it is. But honestly, it's a little bit too much. It's a little bit too much. And I like a statement necklace, but that's yeah.

Kelli (24:49.827)
It's probably an Indian designer. Yeah.

Lori (24:57.591)
It's a lot.

Kelli (24:57.614)
It is a little bit too much.

Kelli (25:02.512)
Yes.

Lori (25:03.823)
That's a lot.

Lori (25:10.231)
Now about Aaron and Da Aaron and Daisy just sitting there talking shit about Arica's home. And I love how production was trying to make it like they were like spying and shit, like they were like through the bushes.

Wendy (25:17.548)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:24.024)
Well they were whispering. Why were they whispering?

Lori (25:27.278)
I don't know.

Kelli (25:27.813)
Well, I don't know if it was before that or right after that, but Erica does go into their room to tell them about eating in the pool. And when she leaves, she's like, That was weird. The energy was way off. So maybe it was right after she left and they didn't know if she was like still in the area.

Lori (25:38.016)
Right.

Wendy (25:41.25)
Maybe it was coming back. Yeah, it could be. 'Cause she said there was like weird vibes in there. I mean the fact that, you know, they're criticizing that they didn't fly private and this place is a dump and

Lori (25:43.576)
Mm.

Lori (25:55.833)
Well yeah. What do you Right.

Kelli (25:55.984)
Martha Martha would never Martha is your employer, sweetheart. She's not your friend.

Lori (26:01.431)
Right. And you do not live like she does. So just 'cause you're just 'cause you get to live vicariously through her doesn't mean that you are on the same level that she is. So you should just be happy that somebody else is paying for your trip, no matter where it is.

Kelli (26:03.864)
Exactly.

Kelli (26:11.919)
Right.

Kelli (26:19.099)
See, first season, Cy was Erin's, you know, wing girl and and she was a mean girl too. And then she got very smart in second season she did a 180 Sai. This Daisy, she's gonna see this is it's not gonna work out well for you to be Erin's second hand man. It's not gonna work out well for you at all. It's already not working out well for you. Cause now look, now people are like, you live in a in a rent controlled apartment with popcorn ceilings.

Wendy (26:19.224)
It's so true.

Lori (26:39.437)
Mm mm. Nope.

Lori (26:49.272)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:49.551)
And you have the balls to come out here and call this pla a dump? I'm sorry.

Lori (26:55.224)
Right. Yeah. What

Wendy (26:55.628)
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And like I said to you, she said on Jeff Lewis that she makes fun of it all the time. Well, she she even admits it when we get to this this statement at the end, you know, the about the popcorn ceilings. so d Jessel and Erica are outside talking and somebody's coming out and Jessel once again looks and she's like, is that Carrie? It was Carol.

Kelli (26:56.941)
A dump?

Wendy (27:25.346)
Ha ha ha.

And I did like this. Carol came out and she's like, my gosh, this place is amazing. I've been everywhere. Like, I've been to places all over the world. And this place is like n you know, nothing I've ever been to. And I thought, you know what, that was right. I thought, my gosh, that was so kind of her. And I said, I even wrote down, I'm not even gonna comment on her outfit. I'll leave that for Lori. But then at the end

Kelli (27:44.559)
Right. So that tells you right there.

Lori (27:47.639)
Yeah.

Wendy (27:56.621)
When she was sitting there and she was warm, I was like, All right, Carol, you won because she definitely won.

Lori (28:00.397)
There you go, Carol, you won.

Kelli (28:01.072)
Yeah. And it's funny that she said that about the house, like I I've been everywhere and this is so beautiful without even knowing that Erin and Daisy had just had that conversation. I mean, that's good production. That's good production.

Wendy (28:08.087)
Yes.

Yes.

Lori (28:13.077)
Mm. Yeah. And how about Aaron saying she has proof of something for the tha past three years, but would never say anything because it would ruin Jessel's family. Mm mm.

Wendy (28:15.53)
Yeah.

Kelli (28:26.415)
Yeah, I don't like that.

Wendy (28:28.748)
that either. She's insinuating that poverty's cheating on her. I that's what she's insinuating.

Lori (28:32.531)
Mm-hmm. Something. And then Daisy just can't stop bitching. Like when she first comes out, you know, they're sitting around the fire. She's like asking, do you have like windbreakers on this island to you know, block the wind? And my hair is gonna catch on fire in the fi girl, just why don't you just go on home then? Just go on home.

Kelli (28:35.515)
Something.

Kelli (28:55.429)
Right. That's what I'm saying. I w right then and there I would have been like, You two seem very unhappy here. I can have a plane ready for you in an hour. Why don't you go pack up?

Lori (29:04.493)
Right. In an hour. Why yeah.

Get the fuck out.

Wendy (29:09.42)
Yeah. So then they they do finally go over to the table and it is it is kind of comical watching them try and sit down with their long gowns in the ankle deep water because all of their dresses fell in the water. And I also again thought it was funny when Aaron looks over in Carol and says, you look cute and Carol's exact words were, Well, that's the compromise because actually I don't look cute. But you know what? I'm warm. So I loved it. I love that Carol, you know, said

Kelli (29:10.276)
Yep.

Lori (29:33.901)
And more.

Mm-hmm.

Wendy (29:38.338)
You know, I actually don't, but

Kelli (29:39.951)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (29:40.953)
That's okay.

Wendy (29:42.39)
And even what she said in her confessionals, you know what? She's like, I've had a lifetime of wearing gowns. Like, w what what is with and I kind of I see where she's coming from. That being said, I really think they only had fifteen minutes notice to change their outfit.

Lori (29:55.727)
To change, right.

Kelli (29:56.294)
Yeah, and listen, I don't think like Carol, like obviously when she went to the gallet, she was dressed appropriately. Like you are on vacation, you are on an island, and you are having dinner at the house. Like you know me, like I'll wear leggings and a hoodie anywhere I can. Not that I would wear it that night, but you know what I'm saying, like you it's not like they were going out to a restaurant. I'm sure if they were, maybe Carol would have, you know

Wendy (30:06.072)
Private. Right.

Lori (30:08.141)
No one's gonna see you.

Lori (30:13.889)
Right. Right.

Kelli (30:22.725)
dressed it up a little bit more. But they were at the house. Like, yeah, just be comfortable.

Lori (30:27.247)
Mm.

Kelli (30:28.731)
The they're the other ones are jokers for dressing like that to have dinner at the house. Right.

Lori (30:34.329)
Yeah, where you go?

Wendy (30:35.948)
Yeah. So then the food starts to come out and Jessel asks asks if it's a capri themed dinner. And Sai says, No, it's tapas. And she's like, you know, they make all the food here. She's like asking the question and Erica's like, Yeah, they have to order it a week in advance. and Daisy says, I'm confused. Like, is this your island or is it somebody else's island? Now, as soon as she asked that question, I was like, What are you doing?

Kelli (31:05.797)
I'm gonna tell you right now, that came from Erin. Because if you'll notice when she said about the seven families, and Erin's like, but Richard Branson owns the island, right? Like Erin had that, and she thought that was like the smoking gun. So I think she prompted Daisy to be like, so who owns the island? Like to set it up.

Wendy (31:16.844)
Yes, yes.

Lori (31:22.098)
Right. It was already in her pocket.

Lori (31:28.099)
Mm-hmm. 'Cause they must have looked it up before they went. Yeah.

Wendy (31:28.302)
Mm.

Kelli (31:30.747)
For sure. But I mean, when Erica said no, he owns the island next door and has a stake in this one. Like that was so good.

Wendy (31:40.556)
Yes. And I like how she explained it. Like it's like an HOA. Like we all share the tennis courts, we all use the beach. Makes perfect sense to me. Everyone has

Kelli (31:48.804)
And Haley's interconfessional, like, who cares? Who cares who owns the fucking island? You're here. Like, enjoy yourself. Because you can't afford to do this. So this bitch is nice enough to invite us all here and pay for it. And like just shut up.

Wendy (31:52.427)
Right.

Lori (31:56.399)
Exactly.

Lori (32:02.903)
Right. It's crazy. It was really, really, really rude. I mean, I don't know how they can watch this back and not be appalled at themselves.

Kelli (32:08.965)
Very rude. Very, very rude.

Wendy (32:15.192)
I agree. I I agree. I do too. But I I feel like Aaron is still standing ten toes down because of

Kelli (32:15.215)
I don't think I agree, yeah. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (32:23.451)
But it'll be real interesting to see how Daisy, if Daisy does what Cy does, you know, recognizes, acknowledges and makes a d makes a change.

Wendy (32:33.624)
I think it's gonna be a good reunion to be quite honest with you, and we're only episode five because the behavior is really not good.

Kelli (32:36.379)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (32:44.633)
And Sai says it's a hint of jealousy. yes, ma'am.

Wendy (32:48.812)
Yeah. It's more than a hint. It's like a smack in the face. Like she is beyond jealous.

Kelli (32:55.023)
Yeah, and Daisy, you're a makeup artist. Like it t it would take a lot for me to dislike you. Like I I you know, admittedly am a makeup skincare whore. So I'm losing it for you, Daisy. And that's why. Because you are very jealous and it's it's seeping out of your pores.

Lori (33:15.831)
It's just such a bad, bad, bad look for anybody. It's just bad.

Kelli (33:18.203)
Bad luck. Bad luck.

Wendy (33:22.56)
Yeah, so then star Sy starts opening up about, you know, what was going on and how she found out and, you know, how Aaron texted her, he filed, she had no idea. He was with the kids in upstate New York. She was home alone. And, you know, in her confessional she says, Listen, if there was ever any chance that David and I would get back together, like there's it's never gonna happen. Like I've lost all respect for for him. Like you just don't do that.

And I don't blame her. I don't blame her.

Kelli (33:54.65)
Mm.

Lori (33:54.915)
Yeah. She said it's n it was something that she would never do.

Wendy (33:59.149)
Right. And you know she's scrappy. We know her story, you know? We know her story. She hasn't had it easy. She hasn't had it easy. and then they they start talking about like, is you may have to give him alimony, and then Daisy's Daisy says, Well, you know, most of my friends, the women make more than the husbands, and then she looks at Erica, well, except for you. What

Kelli (34:03.109)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (34:03.373)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (34:28.175)
Yeah.

Wendy (34:29.526)
I mean come on, Daisy.

Kelli (34:32.421)
Yep. I'm sorry. I'm sorry my husband's a billionaire and I didn't bring that to the table when we met. Like you can F all the way off. Honestly, I would have asked her to leave. I would have at least asked her to leave the table. Like I think we're done here. I don't know what you think you're doing. But I guess it's a show. I guess you can't do that. Yeah.

Lori (34:42.348)
Absolutely.

Lori (34:51.801)
Right.

I guess you can't.

Wendy (34:58.124)
And I mean listen, Erica says I you know, I have my own, you know, business, you know. It's not like she's not successful and sh

Kelli (35:06.595)
And I'm sure when your husband's a billionaire, if you don't have a career, you're doing enough charity work to keep yourself busy.

Lori (35:12.855)
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if she sits home and eats Doritos all frickin' day. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Doesn't matter. It's nobody's business.

Kelli (35:19.067)
True. We're Taco Bell.

Kelli (35:24.195)
No, you're right. You're right.

Wendy (35:26.59)
weird though because then you know Aaron said you know we're building a life together we're partners in everything we're partners in business we're partners in life you know all that and then Daisy said well we are we're popcorn partners meaning her and Eugene and Erica said popcorn like from your ceiling I don't even know what did she mean by popcorn partners and why was that such such an off the wall statement? I have no idea.

Lori (35:47.289)
Yeah, what is popcorn partners? I don't know what that means. I guess she didn't know either. So that's the only thing she could think of that had to do with popcorn, so she threw it out there.

Kelli (35:49.723)
Yeah.

Kelli (35:54.213)
Right.

Wendy (35:55.349)
Right. And then all of a sudden what Erica said was insulting. Are you kidding me?

Kelli (36:00.166)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (36:02.602)
I mean and then Erin jumps in and says, Well, you know what, she was offended. What? Erin? Are you kidding me? You're jumping in on the popcorn ceiling comment?

And that's when the whole, you know, Jessel, you know, do you know how serious you take your outfits? Like, I'm not gonna say, look what she's wearing at Shein I was like, my God.

Kelli (36:27.729)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (36:33.176)
So in her confessional, Jess was like, listen, if sh if I'm not offended by what she said because she has no fashion sense. Like if somebody who really had some fashion sense was schooling me on fashion, then that would be one thing. But I'm I'm fine with it.

Kelli (36:47.247)
I love that Haley's like, is that rain? Is that rain? Do you feel rain? Is that rain? Nob not one damn person's paying attention to her.

Wendy (36:50.555)
my gosh.

Lori (36:53.421)
Everybody's ignoring her. Nope, she's like, I knew it, I knew that she was coming.

Wendy (37:01.568)
Yeah, and then d just before the rain comes, Aaron says, I heard that you guys were saying some mean things about me. And that's when Haley's like, Is it raining? Do you feel and then she kind of got a little bit of it out, and then it started like torrential downpouring. They all go running. Poor Carol like fell in a bush.

Kelli (37:25.083)
sh

Wendy (37:28.162)
Like off the retaining wall and I'm like, I don't think she was drunk. I think it was just like a bad situation, like, you know No, no.

Kelli (37:30.0)
Yeah.

Lori (37:33.487)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (37:33.583)
I don't think they were out there long enough for anybody to be drunk.

Lori (37:36.601)
Mm-mm.

Wendy (37:40.322)
and then they're inside and then Aaron and Haley are like, Well, who wants to play pool? and and Carol's like, Well, I'm playing but I'm a I'll play but I'm a hustler. Okay. Yeah.

Kelli (37:51.599)
I love she was like, I'm a hustler like she like she whispered it like beyond

Lori (37:55.565)
Yeah.

Wendy (37:56.941)
Right. And Sy's like, you what, I'm gonna go lay down. Like, I I've had it and I get it, you know. And Jessel and Daisy are arguing. And Daisy said, you know, you went for my apartment and I and sh I went for your fashion. Daisy said, you know, I can be this was this funny thing. I can be self deprecating, but you can't talk about it. Daisy says, So like you can say, like my husband's a dick, but I'm never gonna call your husband a dick.

And Erica's like, that's actually not self-deprecating. That's talking about someone else. And I'm like, my God. These people are ding bats. They are ding bats. Daisy's going right there in the dingbat category. And Daisy's like, I know the meaning of self-deprecating. then she talks about the furniture. look at. All right.

Lori (38:31.309)
Yes.

Lori (38:36.163)
Mm.

Kelli (38:38.09)
Yeah. Yep.

Kelli (38:47.697)
She's like, I'm not gonna make fun of your furniture. You just called the place a dump. Like there's nothing worse than you can say right now.

Wendy (38:53.495)
Right.

But she sent the furniture comment in front of Erica about self-deprecating. Again, not about her own furniture. About Erica's furniture.

Kelli (38:59.793)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (39:05.772)
No. Yes. Not go ahead.

Wendy (39:11.278)
and then Jessel says to Daisy, Clearly you told Aaron everything we discussed at your apartment that day. And Daisy said, Well, I told her about the problems that she was having, and then we talked about our house, and then we talked and then all of a sudden Erin hears her talking about it, and she comes over and she starts yelling. And, you know, if this is what's been talked about, I will you are an effing despicable person. She's like all indignant about it. And Jessel's like, Well, wait a second.

I obviously you didn't tell her what your part in this was.

Kelli (39:48.207)
Yeah, 'cause Aaron's like, I wanna talk about you two and Jussel's like, what about this one?

Wendy (39:51.114)
Right. Right.

Lori (39:53.43)
Yeah.

Because in actuality, Jessel said it's an insurance thing, which could have been taken any way you wanted it. But Daisy put the nail in the coffin and then started talking about like Jewish lightning at a restaurant. Totally. Tot you know what I mean? She she was the one who totally set the tone.

Wendy (40:04.28)
Yep.

Kelli (40:07.683)
Any way you wanted it.

Kelli (40:16.293)
Exactly.

Wendy (40:16.449)
Yes.

Lori (40:25.497)
For whatever Jessel you know, Jessel threw out the the fishing line. Daisy put the fish on the hook.

Kelli (40:31.131)
Mm-hmm. Yep. For sure.

Lori (40:35.641)
So she should have just kept quiet.

Kelli (40:38.085)
Yeah. Daisy said and Yeah, go ahead.

Wendy (40:38.159)
Yep. And then Aaron k Aaron's going after Jessel. Like I was really hurt. Like you don't even know what it's like to own a house. Do you understand? no, you don't understand. You don't own a house. Come on. Really?

Kelli (40:52.475)
Yeah, but Er Erin doesn't own a house in New York City either. She yes, she owns that house and and God bless her for it. That's very nice. But she doesn't own anything in the city. And who knows it that could be her family's house. It could have been her a a house her father bought. Like, we don't know. She doesn't own in the city either, obviously, because she had all that back rent.

Kelli (41:18.907)
But when Erin said to Daisy, You didn't defend me and she was like, I never said I defended you. okay.

Wendy (41:27.822)
Mm.

Yeah, because a after they had the conversation when when they were in the apartment, Daisy said, yeah, and then she just because Erin Jessel was saying about all her financial problems. And Daisy specifically said, yeah, and she just bought all those Chanel shoes. So not only did you not defend her, you mentioned that she was spending money on Chanel shoes, Daisy.

Lori (41:56.099)
When she right, when she didn't have it. And you are actually the one who brought in the fact that possibly she committed insurance fraud.

Kelli (42:06.865)
Mm-hmm. Right.

Lori (42:10.159)
So she should have just shut up.

Wendy (42:13.708)
Yeah. So then Aaron gets up and she starts to walk away and she's like, I haven't done anything to you in the last four years, Jessels. Last four years, Jessel. I apologize for talking shit about you. And Jessel's like, Actually, no, you didn't. You didn't. And No. Aaron's like, Well, I didn't she's like, No, you kept saying you don't think you're thirsty. You you know, you think you're thirsty. And sh Aaron's like, Yeah, you are thirsty. And Jessel said, Well, exactly. Like you can't

Lori (42:24.089)
But you really didn't.

You she really didn't.

Wendy (42:40.906)
apologize for saying those things and then continue to say them and say that you apologize for them. It doesn't work that way. Right.

Kelli (42:44.197)
Right.

Kelli (42:50.723)
No. Erin's really trying to make this a thing. And again, it's just not working because if she was likable, it would maybe be something people are nobody cares that they said insurance thing. Daisy lied. Like this is stupid. And honestly, Erin, like, you know, I I don't want to say anything about the like I I do feel bad because that's that's horrible what happened with her house. But it's like, is that your storyline this year?

Wendy (42:52.086)
Yeah. And she's not losing her house. She is.

Kelli (43:20.131)
You're telling us that your kids are giving us giving you a hard time, but you're not showing us your kids. You're telling us that your business is not doing great, but you're not really showing us your business.

Wendy (43:33.004)
And that's just part of her business 'cause I thought she's a realtor. Isn't she a realtor? Or a flipper? Like what does she do? I know, but she has more than one business, right?

Kelli (43:33.273)
So why are you here?

Kelli (43:37.617)
Yeah, but she's talking about the Mezcal not doing well, I mean.

Yeah, but we don't we're not seeing any of it.

Wendy (43:47.864)
Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't like it.

Lori (43:49.987)
Which doesn't bother me 'cause I don't care what she does.

Kelli (43:53.327)
I I just I don't like that she thinks she thinks she's top dog. Like she thinks she's the main character when she is like so low on the list. She's so unlikable.

Wendy (43:54.158)
Ha ha ha

Lori (43:58.731)
Right. No.

Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (44:06.85)
No, I agree. I totally agree. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Kelli (44:11.109)
Day when Daisy said this is gaslighting, no bitch. You're just being told what you said. Cause you have temporary amnesia, apparently.

Lori (44:18.66)
Right.

Wendy (44:26.252)
Yeah.

Lori (44:29.743)
So we shall see what happens next.

Wendy (44:33.164)
Yeah. Until next time.

Lori (44:34.105)
But all I have to say, Erica, any time you would like to invite us, we we are we have no issues. We're eternally grateful.

Kelli (44:43.029)
be there. I will sleep on a cotton pillowcase. And we'll fly coach. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Wendy (44:45.698)
Yes. Wolf light coach.

Lori (44:47.619)
Yes. Will fly coach.

Wendy (44:51.084)
We don't care. And you want us Yeah. We don't care. We don't care. All right, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Lori (44:52.569)
We'll sleep on the floor in a sleeping bag, whatever.

Kelli (45:04.209)
Bye.

Lori (45:05.251)
Bye.