RHOM-Peace, Planes, and Petty Remarks

Wendy (00:01.119)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy. We are talking about Real Housewives of Miami, season seven, episode number nine. This one is called Preppy Petty People. I think that's a perfect title for this.

Kelli (00:03.754)
I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:17.472)
It is, and it's a play on that REM song, Happy.

Wendy (00:22.793)
Happy... I know what you're talking about. Happy something people. Smiling? Is it smi... Is it smiling people?

Kelli (00:26.242)
You know the song. Yeah, because as I was reading the title, I was like singing it in my head. Happy smiling people. I don't know. Something. I'm sure one of our listeners will remember. Put it in the comments.

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Wendy (01:01.031)
So we start out with Adriana. This was the weirdest freaking thing. Takes her dog for a dog date. She wants him to, in her words, have a trip to paradise before he gets clipped up. I was like, my God, that's exactly what I thought. So Lisa meets her there and she's like, she's never even heard of this doggy brothel thing. I mean, I never did either, but to me that was the strangest thing I've ever seen. I don't know.

Kelli (01:07.333)
my god.

Kelli (01:12.974)
my God.

Kelli (01:21.441)
talking props

Kelli (01:28.308)
I've never seen anything like that. did not think that was a thing. Do we know if it actually is a thing or was this like, I don't know.

Wendy (01:35.913)
I mean, I don't think that that's exactly what that place was for. I think that that's just a place for like an indoor dog. I don't know. I can't imagine that that's... Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (01:45.622)
That's what I'm saying. I think that I don't think this is a purposeful place for that. think it was like you said, like an indoor dog run or something. And Adriana worked it out.

Wendy (01:54.246)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, turned it into something else.

Kelli (02:01.89)
But it was very funny.

Wendy (02:01.983)
So it was funny. was like, my. I mean, her dog is so cute. And she had the dog with her on Watch What Happens Live, too. Yeah. It's a dog. It's an artist's Is it Baskeyev? Yeah. Yeah, that's the name of her dog.

Kelli (02:05.879)
Yep.

Kelli (02:10.385)
she did?

Kelli (02:16.502)
is it Basquiat?

That's who tested her mural of it brick memorial before she graduated I Didn't even realize that

Wendy (02:22.075)
I know. I know. That's why I, yeah. Yeah. So they're talking about the preppy party and what to wear. Adriana said she, she didn't feel like she was exactly invited. Like it went to the group message, but since it was Marisol throwing it and she was so nasty to her on the boat the last time she saw her. And she admits that she wasn't happy the way she behaved on the boat. Like her behavior was, you know,

Kelli (02:50.188)
Yeah, I mean, that was definitely the alcohol talking.

Wendy (02:52.679)
Yeah, definitely was. And then we see Marisol and Julia are talking and she's saying that she also invited Adriana to the party, to the preppy lunch. And Marisol said that she's coming after my physical appearance and body shaming me. Like, and I agree, like that's the whole thing with Adriana. It's one thing to throw shade, but someone's physical appearance, like you can't help that. You know I'm saying? I don't like when people attack.

Kelli (03:19.775)
Especially her knees. I mean for crying out loud like

Wendy (03:23.517)
Yeah. And she also said, which I don't know. mean, she said Adriana is older than she is, which I, she, I mean, she must be. Yeah. She, didn't look it up.

Kelli (03:31.436)
That was a little surprising, but you know, if any of the Miami cast are asked who had had the best work done, everybody says Adriana. So she must be older, but just looks really good. But that was surprising that Marisol, Marisol just has an older soul, I feel like.

Wendy (03:44.561)
Yes.

Wendy (03:49.309)
Yes, yeah, could be.

Wendy (03:55.229)
I think so too. And it's not like she looks older, but I think it's, again, the conservative dress, just the way she carries herself. Yeah, I think that I agree with that. And Lisa's telling Adriana that she doesn't like that Julia is forming a group with the Marisol and Alexia, that she feels like she's like, those two are on the outside now. She feels like they're doing a Mean Girls group.

Kelli (03:58.464)
No.

Yes.

Yeah.

Kelli (04:24.238)
They are. It is what they're doing. It's very clear.

Wendy (04:24.935)
It's what they're doing. I mean, it is what they're doing.

Then Marisol asks Julia like what she's gonna do to move forward with Gertie and Julia said that the ship has sailed like we can just be cordial so she's not gonna do anything.

Kelli (04:41.784)
That was Julia.

Wendy (04:43.239)
Yes, Julia said that about Gertie. And then they're talking about like, now what do we do? Like now we have this thing with Alexia and Stephanie going on, like the whole, those two are not getting along, the Rottweiler, Chihuahua. There really are. Yeah. Julia's telling Marisol that, you know, they got to get Alexia out of Miami and so that she'll stop thinking about Todd. But when they invite her, the first thing she says is, I got to be back for Todd.

Kelli (04:46.306)
GERTY

Kelli (04:56.558)
Yeah, there are a lot of riffs in this crew.

Kelli (05:12.526)
for his birthday.

Wendy (05:13.437)
Yeah, so, you know, it just blows my mind. She's got to be back by November 17th because it's Todd's birthday on November 18th. I'm like, you got to be kidding me, right?

Kelli (05:23.56)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (05:25.545)
Then we see Dirty's on the phone with Dr. Jackie from Marry to Medicine. She calls her for some advice about how cancer is affecting her with her intimacy. I really like Dr. Jackie.

Kelli (05:28.931)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:37.056)
Now, did doctor, I know she's a doctor, but did she have breast cancer as well? Is that why she called her or just because she's a doctor and

Wendy (05:43.493)
I'm, if I'm not mistaken, she's a gynecologist. I think she's, I think she's an OBGYN. Yeah. think she, yes. Yes. I'm almost positive she's an OBGYN.

Kelli (05:48.896)
Okay. So she'd be, this is in her wheelhouse.

Kelli (05:56.589)
I never watched Married to Medicine, so I don't know much about Dr. Jackie.

Wendy (06:00.183)
I watched it a couple times. I've never watched a whole season, but I have watched a few episodes. And out of all of them, I actually, I like Dr. Jackie the best.

Kelli (06:08.204)
She seems like the most chill.

Wendy (06:11.901)
She's not as vicious and mean, I don't think. Yeah, yeah. And she's also, Dr. Jackie's telling Gertie that it's amazing what she's doing with her platform and letting people know and giving back. She asks her for advice about handling her friends and Dr. Jackie says, listen, just tell them thank you. Like just say thank you to your friends. Like, you know what? Don't get into it with them.

Kelli (06:13.6)
Yeah, dramatic.

Wendy (06:41.127)
I think this was good advice for Gertie. It's basically just, you know what, you're bigger than this. Just say thank you and move on, right? Don't try and figure it out. So then we see Masood and Stephanie, they're going out to eat with Julia and Martina. Now we know that when Stephanie met Julia, the first thing she said is, Masood is in love with Martina and that's the.

Kelli (06:53.528)
Right.

Kelli (07:06.67)
My husband loves you.

Wendy (07:08.061)
Yes, that's the only woman that he's allowed to love besides her. So it was just a matter of time before we saw those two interact with each other,

Stephanie asks, I thought this was so bold of her. How old are you going to be when they turn 20? The boys.

Kelli (07:27.138)
I was like, Jesus.

Wendy (07:28.839)
I'm, Martina said, well, I'm 68. And Stephanie said, well, I'm turning 40. And Julia actually was, had gotten Martina's age wrong. think she was making her older. I think Julia said, I think she said you're 69. And Martina's like, no, I'm 68. And then we find out that Massoud,

Kelli (07:47.437)
Yeah, she did.

Wendy (07:53.883)
said that when he had watched, he was talking to Martina about when he watched her at Wimbledon when she was playing against Chris. He asked her like, don't you miss it? And she's like, you know, well, if I could still play, but I, you know, I don't miss the stress. Like she likes playing. And he talks about how great

Kelli (08:07.98)
Yeah. How great did she look though in those pictures when they flashed back? And he said, the first thing I noticed about you were her arms, were your arms and her arms were ripped. Like those flashback pictures were great of her.

Wendy (08:14.001)
Yeah, she was in great shape.

Right. Yeah, I mean.

Yeah, they were. And she said that's what Julia fell in love with, she said, was her arms. So we know that Julia has a brother. I didn't realize he's 12 years younger than her and he lives in Moscow.

Kelli (08:27.651)
Yeah.

Kelli (08:37.26)
Yeah, so remember when the case manager came and said, where's the male influence coming from? And she said, my brother. Well, how's that going to work if he's in Moscow?

Wendy (08:41.831)
Yes, and she said, right. I know, I thought about that too. So then Stephanie brings up about her twin sisters, how they don't speak to each other. She's like, they just don't speak the same language. Then Julie goes on to say that she's having a hard time with her, she said, with our oldest daughters, but they're Julia's daughters.

Kelli (08:50.893)
Yeah!

Wendy (09:11.22)
You know?

Kelli (09:11.244)
Yeah, I don't understand this. We need more to this story. Why would your daughters just cut off communication with you because you chose to adopt two younger boys?

Wendy (09:26.183)
I think, listen, I can kind of understand, I don't know the cutting off communication, but I feel like, know, Martina's 68 years old. You know, who's going to be taking care of these kids? You know what I'm saying? Like they're in my, like I would think they would, it would fall to them if something happens to the parents, right? They're the next, right? So for their, for, would,

Kelli (09:49.666)
Well yeah, that's true, yeah.

Wendy (09:54.505)
feel like if my parents were to make a decision like that and not include me in something that is very possible to affect my life, you know, I would I would feel slighted. You know, I would have a problem with that.

Kelli (10:04.588)
Right.

Kelli (10:10.102)
How old is Julia? Do we even know?

Wendy (10:13.555)
We don't know how old she is. We don't. I mean, we could obviously Google it.

Kelli (10:18.286)
I mean, what she could be, or probably her early 50s now. If that.

Wendy (10:22.214)
Mmm. Mmm. I don't know. We should we should look that up.

Wendy (10:34.997)
So then Martina says, you know, it's sad about what's going on with the girls because right now they're not really communicating. And she's like, you know, you can never get the time back. Like all this time right now that they're not communicating is wasted time. And it's totally true. She's 53. OK. So Stephanie advises Julia that she nips it in the bud right now because one year turns into two years. And then at some point, it's too far. Like she is with her sisters.

Kelli (10:47.562)
It is true. She's 53. Yeah.

Wendy (11:04.285)
It's true. I think that they should really kind of have a sit down and resolve it.

Kelli (11:09.132)
Yeah. Did you see the old Real Housewife of Miami, Anna? She has a podcast.

Wendy (11:16.617)
Well, think I sent the clip to you.

Kelli (11:21.398)
of her talking about Masood and Stephanie.

Wendy (11:23.751)
Yes, about the money. Yeah.

Kelli (11:25.474)
Yeah, okay, so yeah, okay, so you did send that. I didn't know if I just saw it on Instagram, but yeah, she's basically saying that he's just, you know, borrowed and borrowed and borrowed and borrowed and borrowed. And she kind of made it seem to keep up with Stephanie's lifestyle.

Wendy (11:41.127)
Yes, that's exactly how she made it seem. And I guess we're going to have to wait and see because it should be hitting. It should be like, like this was filmed last year, right? So it should be coming out soon if there's, you know, these financial problems, you know, the house warming she talked about with the house. I didn't listen to the whole podcast. just saw that clip that I sent you. I should.

Kelli (11:43.842)
Right?

Yeah.

Kelli (12:01.792)
Yeah, but Anna said like that was a year ago and the house still isn't done. I mean that house is enormous. I don't even know if it could be done in a year.

Wendy (12:05.511)
Right.

Wendy (12:12.177)
Right. I mean, yeah, it is interesting. It is interesting.

Kelli (12:13.848)
But it's interesting.

Kelli (12:18.828)
And she would know, I mean, she still lives there, right? She's in the, exactly, yeah.

Wendy (12:21.395)
And she's an attorney. I mean, she's an attorney. Like, I kind of trust the words she says, to be honest with you.

Kelli (12:26.134)
Me too, because she's not going to go on there and say something not factual and then be accused of slander or whatever.

Wendy (12:35.433)
And I think all she was doing is giving us information that are in court documents. So, you know, it's not like she's making stuff up. It's not like it's a rumor. So Marisol had the idea that they could take the girls, you know, to Seville, Spain. Martina's like, I would like to go, you know, when she is telling Stephanie. she's like, no, you have to stay and babysit the boys.

Kelli (12:45.197)
Right.

Wendy (13:03.461)
And then Stephanie says, I'm going to take my private plane. And Martina's like, I want to go. Again, she says it. I want to go. she says to Julie, I want you to come with me on my private plane. And Stephanie asks, well, who else did you invite? Who else is going on this trip? And she said, well, we're going to Spain for Alexia to get Todd off of her mind with everything that's going along. She's like, but everyone's really not getting along. But we want everyone just to get along to go on this trip.

Stephanie's like, well, I'm really new to this group and I feel like everyone welcomed me except for Alexia. And I agree with that. I mean, yeah, she feels on. Yes.

Kelli (13:40.152)
totally agree. Even Marisol did. Which they're normally, you know, two peas in a pod with that stuff, but...

Wendy (13:48.009)
Mm-hmm.

Alexia made her feel unwelcome and Julia says, Stephanie says to Julia, you can't keep making excuses for her. And Julia's like, I'm not. Julia says, I know your personality and I know Alexia 100 % sure that you guys just need to have a conversation. I'm like, I don't think so, Julia. don't think that's, it's not that easy.

Kelli (14:08.85)
No, it's not that easy. She came in hot with the stuff about Todd and just like Alexia's counterpart in New Jersey, that's it. It's done. It's a done deal. No matter what you do now, it's done. Because that's basically what Adriana did. She started saying things about Alexia's marriage and I mean, she started saying stuff about Marisol's ex too. But there's no door opening there either.

Wendy (14:20.861)
Right. Yep.

Wendy (14:26.132)
I think

Wendy (14:37.371)
No, I don't think that there is. So then they say, to a fabulous flight and everyone coming back all hunky dory. I just like throwback to hunky dory and Kathy Hilton. So you see Marisol, she's getting ready for her preppy party. We knew she invited Adriana.

Kelli (14:49.912)
Kathy Hillen. It would have been great if somebody was like, who's Hunky Dory?

Wendy (15:05.85)
that Julia says she really wants her to go to Spain and she's hoping that ketamine Adriana shows up.

Kelli (15:13.518)
That was a little wild that she said that. I mean, that's a bold implication right there.

Wendy (15:14.833)
I thought so too, right?

Wendy (15:22.033)
It sure is. I was very surprised that she said that. was like...

Kelli (15:23.052)
Yeah. I mean, some people do take that for to treat depression, but still, you don't just say that on TV about somebody.

Wendy (15:29.097)
I know.

Wendy (15:33.084)
I agree.

Kelli (15:34.424)
Something like that.

Wendy (15:36.447)
So, see, okay, so you see her getting ready for the party. The reason for Marisol's preppy theme party is that her father was from Connecticut and he was very waspy and he sent her off to boarding school in Palm Beach and she's dying to see what the ladies pull out for preppy. I am all here for this. I love a preppy party.

Kelli (15:54.702)
thought it was adorable, I really, it should have been called a clueless party, because I think they all were like trying to, you know, a lot of them were clueless, but I thought that was interesting to find out that Marisol's father was a preppy guy from Connecticut, because, you know, her mom was so eccentric and, you know, Cuban. So that was interesting.

Wendy (15:59.017)
me

Yes.

Wendy (16:09.918)
Yes.

Exactly, I thought so too. And then Alexia, she's like, she doesn't feel like Miami is a preppy. It's like not a thing here. No, I mean, listen, not where...

Kelli (16:22.872)
Probably not.

But you can put your boobs away from one party, Alexia. It'll be all right. We still know you have them. We still know they're large.

Wendy (16:28.991)
Yep.

Yep. Yes, exactly.

Wendy (16:37.193)
So then Marisol tells Alexia that she had Kiki there yesterday and she said something very weird.

Kelli (16:43.416)
Kiki dude.

Wendy (16:45.095)
She said, spoke to Gerty and she said that you guys have your relationship feels like a cult. Kiki said, what does a cult mean? Cause of course Kiki doesn't know what a cult means, right? I know it is, it is, it totally is. Alexia is like, I don't like that. Of course she's not gonna like it. So why would you tell her that? Like that's not gonna make anything any better.

Kelli (16:55.082)
It's a language barrier, for sure.

Kelli (17:07.59)
I'm starting to think that Kiki is pulling out all the stops to try to get a full-time position. And now I'm starting to think, was Kiki the one that hired the private investigator to follow Nicole and her partner?

Wendy (17:24.079)
No, I can't imagine Kiki doing that.

Kelli (17:26.912)
I hope not, but I feel like Kiki is really stirring the pot.

Wendy (17:32.307)
She, I agree, I agree.

Kelli (17:35.502)
And she's hanging out with Larsa and Larsa's probably like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what you gotta do. That's what you gotta do.

Wendy (17:42.254)
yeah. So then the next person to show up is Gertie and

She shows up with this big box and Marisol's like, what? Like, what is this? She's like, it's your wedding gift. And it's some like bar cocktail maker thing. And she's like, all right, well, okay. Marisol's like, I wanted that. I saw it on Instagram. But then in her, and she also brought the gift bags from her party, because people left early. She brought the gift bags. And in her confessional, she's like, I think.

Kelli (18:12.125)
that's right.

Wendy (18:17.725)
I think that that was a re-gift from Lisa. I think Lisa gave her that.

Kelli (18:21.442)
Did you see Gerties clap back on social media with the receipt?

Wendy (18:25.842)
about the re-gift? No, I did not. Okay, it wasn't a-

Kelli (18:27.212)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Gertie proved. Gertie's not a regifter Marisol. Stop it. Yeah, she put a post up showing the receipt. I did not regift.

Wendy (18:33.151)
That's so funny.

Wendy (18:39.687)
That's so funny. Marisol tells her about the trip to distract Alexia. And do you feel comfortable coming? Because Kiki said to me that you felt like we were a cult. And Gertie said, well, I was very hurt. And I was trying to talk to everyone. And no one wants to listen to me. And everyone has Julia's back.

Lexi said, well, you know what? I find that offensive. And we need to be careful about the things. Like again, now she's like scolding her. We need to be careful about the things that we call each other, right? And the things that we say. Lexi's like, we are not a cult. you even, like, why would you even want to be a part of this friend group? And now Grootie's crying. And she says, I just want a vibe. Yeah. Right. Right. I know.

Kelli (19:12.364)
Right. Like holier than thou.

Kelli (19:27.438)
Yeah, Alexia said that, right? Do you even want to be in this friend group? It's not for you to decide, Alexia. She's getting that, she's getting there where she thinks it's her show.

Wendy (19:40.703)
yeah, she definitely is. She definitely is. And Gertie's crying. She's like, I just want a vibe. mean, my, literally my motto is keep it simple, stupid. And I was like, you know, I am so team Gertie on this. really am.

Kelli (19:42.286)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (19:52.586)
Me too, and it's surprising on social media how many people are not Team Gertie on this. Yeah.

Wendy (19:58.035)
I agree, it is surprising. Next, Larsa shows up in what I call not a preppy outfit. Larsa, no, no. She's like, well, I'm not preppy. And Stephanie's like, well, this is the least amount of your boobs I've seen. So, you know, that's good. And then Larsa in her confessional, she said she feels like Marisol and Stephanie dress like they're in their 90s, like her grandmother dresses.

Kelli (20:06.104)
She's not gonna be the Dorit. She's not gonna follow.

Kelli (20:26.412)
Yeah.

Wendy (20:27.187)
I mean, seriously, just because they're conservative, you have to go there.

Kelli (20:28.898)
Yeah, she's

Kelli (20:33.119)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (20:36.849)
Adriana thanks Marisol for inviting her and apologizes for the things that she said. You know, she was pretty drunk. Marisol said, listen, the liquor brings out the truth.

Kelli (20:48.28)
That's what I don't like though. She's apologizing to you. She's taking accountability for what she did. She's acknowledging that she was wrong. She's apologizing to you. Don't give her some snide ass remark. Say I appreciate that very much. Thank you.

Wendy (21:05.117)
Right. Well, you know, she says, I think it brings out the truth. Adriana said, well, I feel the same way when you say mean things to me. Like you say, go F yourself. You know? So she stood up for herself. Marisol said, can you just lay off me? We have bigger problems with this group. Like we need to make sure that, you know, Alexia and Stephanie, you know, I feel like we can maybe help them try and get back together. And she's like, all right, you know, I'm good with that.

Kelli (21:26.573)
See, this is what's annoying about Marisol. Every time Adriana walks in a room, she's like, here we go, here we go. She's gonna come at me, she's gonna do this, she's gonna do this. Why can't she just let off me? But then Gertie brings you a nice present, and in your confessional, you say that she regifted it. Like, no, Marisol, maybe they're not gonna stop going at you because you're shading them every time you get a chance. Marisol thinks she's funny. But it's not funny, it's mean.

Wendy (21:41.225)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (21:52.413)
Right, it's not funny, it's not funny. Adriana says, let's cheers and Marisol and I, you know, made peace and Lars is like, how long do think that's gonna last? Come on. Lisa is the last one to show up as usual, cause Lisa is always the last one to show up.

And her inspiration was Wednesday Meets Clueless. And I think she nailed that. I mean, the Wednesday Meets Clueless, nailed preppy, not so much, with stripper shoes, yep.

Kelli (22:20.745)
Nailed it.

with stripper shoes. Yes, nailed it.

Wendy (22:29.631)
So then they go outside on her patio. Marisol's house, and people have mentioned this, it is tiny. Like she literally lives in this little cottage, right? I mean, it's adorable.

Kelli (22:37.068)
Yeah, you know, I wonder though, because obviously she's got a lot of money, Marisol, but I wonder if it's like a, like that's where she films. Like maybe that's like a little cottage that's in a, you know, on a property with a bigger house and she really lives in the house and that's where she films. I've thought about that. I mean, I think it's adorable. I have a small house, so I love it.

Wendy (23:04.437)
I do too. No, I do too. I mean, it's only the two of them. So I mean, what do they need? they need anything? They don't need anything bigger than that. But I do think her hat, and like I said, I think it's adorable. It's just very tiny for these women. That's all.

Kelli (23:06.242)
But exactly.

Kelli (23:16.3)
And for her wealth, like she's obviously wealthy Marisol, I believe, right? I mean.

Wendy (23:20.966)
And yeah, and the fact that she hosts them there, like this isn't, you know, she's hosted them there before, right? So they go outside and you know, the table looks beautiful.

Kelli (23:26.582)
Right. Yeah.

Because when Alexia came in and pulled that curtain, the kitchen was small. It was almost like a galley kitchen.

Wendy (23:34.206)
Yeah. yeah.

It was, and Marisol's like, you this is like you're pulling, you right, you're not supposed to pull that curtain. People are not supposed to see what's behind the curtain. Exactly. But they have these, she has the little straw bags with their names sewn in them. I thought it was so sweet.

Kelli (23:40.144)
This is the staging area. It's like the wizard of Oz.

Kelli (23:57.037)
Yeah, that was.

Wendy (23:59.825)
She said that,

Wendy (24:04.585)
She wanted the reason she tells them why she wanted to have this party. She wanted them to know a little bit about her roots because everyone knows her as her mother's daughter. But she went to Boston College and she went to boarding school. And then Adriana says, well, can I give you a clinical aspect to all this? And Marisol said a Harvard, in quotation, clinical aspect because Adriana's wearing the Harvard shirt.

Kelli (24:31.375)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (24:33.885)
She's like, this is what Adriana says. So when you were conceived, your chromosomes are crossed. If you're a girl, you get your chromosomes from your dad. The similarities you have from your dad are greater than you think. First of all, I didn't look that up, but I'm sure that's true. Like I do believe that Adriana is pretty smart. Right? And she really is going to Harvard. mean, I was surprised because she was on Watch What Happens Live that Andy did not ask her because she said,

Kelli (24:51.821)
I do think she is very smart. Yeah.

Wendy (25:02.185)
that she was graduating in the spring and it's now summer, so she should have graduated. Maybe at the reunion it'll come up. Because she was getting her master's in psychology. But none of the ladies even asked her about it. They just shaded her in their confessionals. Which I just said to myself, are you kidding me? What is wrong with these women?

Kelli (25:06.343)
yeah.

Wendy (25:30.527)
Julia... No! They really don't. They really don't. And honestly, it used to be the only one that did was Julia. And now... Yeah.

Kelli (25:30.851)
No, yeah, they're not supportive of her at all. They don't treat her well at all.

Kelli (25:40.91)
and Gertie, yeah. And Nicole, like they kinda had a, you know, was the four of them that were, yeah, so now Julia's, you know, in the cool girl clique, and she's got Gertie. Yeah, Nicole's not there, so she does have Gertie, thankfully, but.

Wendy (25:44.327)
Yes, yes, yes.

Wendy (25:52.745)
And Nicole's not there. Right.

Wendy (25:58.493)
Yeah. So Julia is wearing Martina's Wimbledon sweater.

Marisol also said we need to stick to the root and not the fluff on top. This is where the problem lies. So Julia, Gertie then says to Julie, like, do you want to talk? And she pulls her aside to go talk, which I was glad to see. Like, let's just, like, can we just get this over with?

Kelli (26:18.094)
Yeah.

Wendy (26:24.073)
Gertie says to Julie, like, I'm not really understanding why it is we're so far apart. I thought we had an understanding to move forward. When we went to the Grecian party, you betrayed me. You asked Daniel, why would you do that? We said we weren't going to speak of it again.

Kelli (26:42.243)
especially in front of the group. Like they said, it was just gonna be between them.

Wendy (26:43.965)
Exactly. Right. And then Julia says, you know, I'm sorry, that absolutely was not my intention. Like, I mean, like I thought because he was a life coach, like he could actually help. Like it wasn't to hurt. You know, when she said it then, I actually, kind of believe that that's what her intention was. When I heard it, I thought it was on Watch What Happens Live.

that that's why she... Initially, I thought she's just making this up, but I do think that... Listen, I don't think Julia's all that bright, to be quite honest with you. I don't. And I do think that she was like, well this guy, maybe he can help. I really don't think she had malicious intent the way Adriana took it. I don't. I don't think she's, like I said, I don't think she's that bright.

Kelli (27:23.565)
No, no, no.

Kelli (27:39.536)
I don't think she had malicious intent, but I do think she was trying to have a moment on the show. She probably didn't think it was gonna, you know, warrant Gertie showing those text messages.

Wendy (27:44.339)
Hmm. I mean, that could be.

Wendy (27:53.299)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (27:54.915)
but whatever, you threw water on her, you threw a drink on her. The text messages are nothing compared to that, in my personal opinion. And the text messages didn't show, it wasn't like showing one friend a text message from another friend, speaking poorly about that friend. All she was doing was proving that, listen, I didn't ask you to join you, you asked me to join you, and I said yes as a friend.

Wendy (27:56.423)
Well, Gari said.

Right.

Wendy (28:04.713)
And no, I totally agree. I agree.

Wendy (28:15.015)
No, no.

Wendy (28:21.343)
Right.

Wendy (28:24.917)
Yes, exactly. That's all it was, exactly. know, Gertie then apologized. She said, I'm sorry I didn't, you that I did that. You know, I don't want to be that person. And she's crying. She's like, you know, I felt cornered. Like nobody would even listen to me. you know, nobody would even listen to what I had to say.

Kelli (28:25.465)
That's all we have.

Kelli (28:44.067)
And she's right because she tried to sit down with Alexia and Alexia shut her down.

Wendy (28:47.857)
Mm-hmm. So they agreed that they're just gonna, they're gonna move forward, right? They both agree and then they hug. But I mean, we know for a fact that they're still not talking. So unless something happens at the reunion, but as of this last week's episode, they hadn't filmed the reunion yet. It was coming up, I think a day or so after this, they were gonna be filming it. So then at Marisol, Stephanie's offering her plane to fly.

Kelli (29:10.66)
Yeah.

Wendy (29:17.865)
to Marabella. because they, whose idea was it to go to Marabella? It's three hours, it's a three hour drive away once they get to, was it Stephanie's?

Kelli (29:26.383)
think that was Stephanie's idea. When we found out they were going to, what's the city they're going to, Seville. I think she's the one that said she had friends, she has friends.

Wendy (29:32.531)
Seville, Seville. they were, but I thought.

Stephanie is one of his friends in Marabella. Okay, so she's offering to fly them because it's a three hour drive. So she's offering to fly them and on her plane to to Marabella.

Kelli (29:50.445)
And that trip, everyone can go on the plane because it's short.

Wendy (29:52.853)
Right. So then, right. So then they're like, are you taking, are you flying with us from Miami? And she's like, no, I'm going to be taking my plane from Miami to Seville. She's like, I'd like nothing more than to take you all. But unfortunately, since it's a very long flight, I can't take everybody. She's like, I can only, you know, I can only give three other girls plus herself and other, but she's going to take them all to the Marivella.

Kelli (30:20.601)
So, Larsa's obviously gonna be on the private, on the PJ going from Miami to Seville because they're buddies.

Wendy (30:23.477)
Right.

Wendy (30:27.507)
Right, they're friends, right. And she'd already invited Julia when she was out with Martina. And then she invited Marisol. And when we saw the invite, Marisol's like, well, we're doing this trip for Alexia. can't leave my, and honestly, it was very nice of her. It was.

Kelli (30:32.716)
Right.

Kelli (30:38.061)
Marisol.

Kelli (30:54.959)
thought it was very sweet.

Wendy (30:56.177)
It was very nice of Marisol. really, no, that's okay. Right? I thought that was very nice of her. She's like, no, that's okay. So then she's like, Stephanie pulls Alexia aside and she's like, you know, I want things between us to be cordial. But Alexia said, well, you said that I bark and I'm a dog. And she's like, I'm not a dog. She's like,

Kelli (30:57.871)
She wouldn't do it for anybody else, but that's okay.

Wendy (31:25.619)
I did say you were like a chihuahua and I'm a Rottweiler, but I didn't want you keep saying that. I'm not a dog.

Kelli (31:33.517)
You said it, Alexia. You said it.

Wendy (31:35.089)
Right. Then Stephanie said to her, feel like you'd be little people. Like with symbolism. I'm the big one and you're the effing Chihuahua. Which I agree with, you know.

Kelli (31:45.839)
Totally. Totally.

Wendy (31:47.935)
She said, you try very hard to be that I'm the queen and you are the Chihuahua right there and pointing to the ground. Stephanie said, it's not going to go well if you continue to belittle me. I like that she stood up to her. Lexi said, I'm sorry that you feel that way. If I offended you, I'm sorry. Stephanie said, as an olive branch, I have one seat left on my plane. And I had offered it to Marisol. And Marisol said that she couldn't fly in the plane unless you were going to come. So she declined it.

So she's like, you know, would you like that seat? And Alexia's response, she's like, I mean, I feel like she wanted to say, yeah, I want that seat. But then she's like, wait, is this a trick question? Like, what do mean? Like, what do you mean? Like, you told me Marisol's, wait, you offered it to Marisol and she's not taking it because I can't go. And now you're offering it to me. Like, is this a trick? Like, seriously, I really felt like she just.

Kelli (32:29.357)
I

Kelli (32:39.929)
Yeah.

Could you imagine if she was like, yeah, I'll take it?

Wendy (32:44.501)
Yeah. And I feel like her initial reaction was going to be like, yeah, I'll take it. But then just in a split second, she's like, wait a second, I think this is a trick. Like in her head.

Kelli (32:53.357)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (32:57.275)
So Alexia is like, no, no, no, I can't, I can't leave, know, Marisol. She goes, I can't leave Marisol. She's my best friend, but she's really little. Maybe we could share a seat.

Kelli (33:10.063)
I mean, it does, I mean, they are so tiny, but I guess it's like the luggage and stuff that matters.

Wendy (33:16.585)
I don't think it has anything to do with that. think one, it's something to cause drama. And two, they want to film on the plane, but you know what? So they have to...

Kelli (33:20.994)
Right, true.

Kelli (33:29.037)
leave room for the cameras.

Wendy (33:30.441)
they have to leave room for the crew and the cameras. So now they're filming on two planes. But how are they gonna do that for the short trip? Because they're gonna have to do it then. I don't know. I think it's for drama. I think it's a production thing. I think it's just a production thing, right?

Kelli (33:32.749)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (33:40.834)
Yeah, maybe they're just not... Yeah, you're right. You're right. So who winds up taking the third seat?

Wendy (33:48.861)
So, okay, so then Alexia says, thank you. Stephanie says, all right, I have one more person I can invite on the PJ. You know, she announces to the group. This was a private conversation. She announces to the group. She's like, you know, I'm really close with Kiki, but I haven't really gotten a chance to know Adriana. So, you know, I don't know what to do. And Kiki's like, you know what? I'm gonna, I'm gonna make this easy for you. Why don't you invite Adriana? And that way you can get to know her, which I honestly thought again, was very nice. Right? So.

Kelli (34:15.853)
Me too, me too.

Wendy (34:18.769)
Adriana, of course, is excited. She's like, you know, what I really admire about Marisol is that she wouldn't get on that plane without Alexia. you know, but Julia didn't say anything about me when she was invited. Now, the thing is, Julia was invited in a different situation. And I don't know that, I mean, when we saw it, she didn't say I'm only inviting a few women to her.

Kelli (34:43.107)
Right. And listen, I'm sorry, but if you get the chance to go on a private jet, go on the private jet. I mean, what Marisol did was very nice, but I don't think it's necessary.

Wendy (34:44.212)
Right?

Wendy (34:55.495)
Mm-hmm. But really, really what Adriana was saying was not so much that Julia didn't, is that I wish that I had that kind of friendship like Marisol and Alexia have. Like that's really the message, you know.

Kelli (34:57.539)
and your best friend should get over it.

Kelli (35:11.651)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (35:15.301)
So Alexi and Marisol are hugging and crying and Marisol says, Alexi, whole, you know, this whole trip is about you. I didn't take too many notes on March It Happens Live. So Adriana was on it with Loni Love.

Kelli (35:28.889)
Why didn't I watch that? because I keep watching it on Peacock now. And then watch what happens live doesn't come on right after.

Wendy (35:32.509)
Yeah. Come on after it. Yeah, so Andy starts out with, was good to see you in Marisol makeup. One of the things he did that I did come out, I didn't write it down, but there was all, know, he does all those questions. And one of the questions was, who is, like, who do you think is, of the cast is least likely to be able to get into Harvard or something like that? And Adriana answered it with probably the one who doesn't have a high school diploma.

And Andy's like, well, who is that? She's like, well, you'll find out at the reunion. He's like, well, who? And she's like, the initial is Y. She wouldn't say who. She said you'll find out at the reunion. I think it's Julia because I don't think Julia, I don't think that's real name. I think that's, I think her real name is some Russian name that starts with a Y. And I believe it's Julia.

Kelli (36:18.127)
Who's why?

Kelli (36:28.205)
And listen, it does make sense though, because she was a model at a young age. So she probably left school to go become a model. And listen, it didn't hurt her Adriana, she's married to Martina. But that's interesting.

Wendy (36:32.5)
Right.

Wendy (36:38.707)
Right. just think that that's what's going to come out at the reunion. And listen.

Kelli (36:45.483)
Okay, so they must talk about the Harvard thing.

Wendy (36:48.531)
They must, they must. I hope.

Kelli (36:50.895)
Because why else would their conversation get there?

Wendy (36:53.787)
Well, I mean, that's a reason for it to get there, right? And again, this is something that Adriana brought up on Watch What Happens Live. So that's all I have for those notes, but I do have the reunion seating chart came out and I posted it on our social media and I asked people like what their, you know, what their thoughts were and pretty much. So on one side of Andy is Stephanie and on the other side is Alexia. And that's what everyone's big question was.

Kelli (36:56.205)
Yeah.

Kelli (37:00.174)
Right.

Wendy (37:21.737)
What happens with Stephanie that she gets first seat her first reunion?

Kelli (37:26.873)
I do feel like it should have been Julia and Gertie. I feel like most of the season, at least so far, has been based around Julia and Gertie's beef and the water being thrown and the text messages being shown. I don't know, I guess we'll see what happens.

Wendy (37:45.621)
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. think, and again, this is only episode nine. So that's what I'm saying. Maybe something happens on this trip that, you know, we really, because, so the first two seats are those. The next two, next to Stephanie is Lisa and next to Alexia is Larsa. So Lisa and Larsa are across from each other. Then next to Lisa is Gertie and across from Gertie on the other side is Julia.

Kelli (37:50.413)
Right.

Wendy (38:11.655)
And then the very last seat is Adriana and across from her is Marisol and then, know, Kiki's the last spot as a friend of.

Kelli (38:19.629)
It's interesting, you know, this is the only franchise where the friends are out at the reunion for the entire reunion.

Wendy (38:26.311)
Well, I don't know that I don't know that she will be out for the entire reunion, to be honest with you. I mean, this is the seating chart. I don't know that she'll.

Kelli (38:31.673)
But typically Adriana and Marisol are out, aren't they? The entire reunions? I don't know about Kiki, but Adriana and Marisol are.

Maybe because they used to be former full-time housewives?

Wendy (38:45.843)
Or maybe because it's such a small cast. know, there's only, there's, there'd only be, I mean, I guess it's not that small. There'd be six full time.

Kelli (38:48.547)
Yeah.

Kelli (38:55.533)
Yeah, I don't know.

Wendy (38:55.623)
I don't know. We're gonna have to wait and see. everyone's reaction was the same as mine. Like, what is Stephanie doing in the first chair, her first reunion? I mean, I think that that's pretty much unheard of right now in any of these seasons that we've seen where, you know, someone's their first season. But it does really tell you that she's gonna be back a second season. Right?

Kelli (39:06.851)
I believe so, yeah.

Kelli (39:14.767)
For sure. She did that commercial with Melissa Gorgas. As soon as I saw her on that commercial, I'm like, she's coming back.

Wendy (39:20.497)
Yeah. So,

Kelli (39:22.127)
They're not going to throw you in a commercial like that.

Wendy (39:24.787)
Yeah, no, no, absolutely. I definitely think she's coming back. I'm curious to see.

Kelli (39:28.471)
Speaking of which, we'll get right back to Miami, but did you see the clip that somebody put up on Instagram at Coney Island when they played the Maynardis, the baseball game, where a fan asked Joe Gorga something and he goes, we're back, we're back.

Wendy (39:46.789)
I saw that, I did see that clip, but you know what, Joe's an idiot. I mean, Joe, I mean, I love Joe, and Melissa will say it, like sometimes he says things he's not supposed to say, and I know. Yeah.

Kelli (39:50.883)
He's an idiot, why would he do that?

Kelli (39:58.221)
Why would you say that? Even if it's true? Andy's gonna be pissed and he likes you, Joe. Ugh, I was so disappointed when I saw that. I'm like, stop. And then he's like, don't say anything. She's got you on camera.

Wendy (40:06.579)
I did see that. I did see that.

Wendy (40:14.781)
Right. Everyone's going to see this, Joe. And Melissa doesn't have the podcast anymore for you to explain it. So now what are you going to do? I mean, you can get on Instagram and explain it yourself, but Melissa probably won't let you. Yeah, I know that was it. mean, I don't have anything else. Speaking of that baseball game, though, Margaret couldn't make it because her dog. Did you see what happened with her dog?

Kelli (40:20.995)
That's right, that's right.

Yeah.

I could not believe that, but okay, alright, sorry. That was sidebar.

Kelli (40:42.551)
No, because Dolores said on two Ts that Margaret was gonna be there.

Wendy (40:45.821)
Well, she was supposed to be there, but the day of the baseball game, her dog got very, very sick and she had to rush the dog to the hospital and they weren't sure the dog was gonna make it. I think the dog is going to be okay. The dog has some kind of condition. Don't quote me on it, because I don't know dog conditions. But it is treatable, but she wasn't able to make it. I mean, she obviously had planned on going, but her dog got sick.

Kelli (41:09.188)
Yeah.

Yeah. I just finished Margaret's book, Caviar Dreams, Tuna Fish Budget. Did I drop it off at the library? I did on my way into work today. So good. So good. Like, so it just explains how she grew up with Marge senior who, you know, wasn't the most responsible, like to party, you know, the whole thing we kind of already knew.

Wendy (41:18.301)
Okay.

And how was it? Really?

What? Tell me a little bit about it.

Wendy (41:36.264)
Right.

Wendy (41:41.375)
Right.

Kelli (41:41.68)
how she got into the fashion industry, how she got into, fashion industry, I'm sorry, how she, Jan, her ex, was in like a textile industry, I believe, that was his family business. So she was familiar with it, and then she and her friend just at her kitchen table put these like personalized buckets together or something, and went and like shopped them around at like small boutiques. And basically that's what started her business.

Wendy (41:55.933)
Okay.

Kelli (42:09.231)
So she talks about that. She talks about how she met Jan, what their marriage was like. She really was a mother to his children. His ex, I believe, moved to Florida or I don't know. I could be wrong with that, but they did not. They lived with Margaret and Jan full time. And although Jan was a great provider, he just wasn't the best husband. He wasn't the husband that she

Wendy (42:09.365)
Huh.

Wendy (42:20.457)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (42:38.669)
wanted. She tells the story of how she met the lead singer of Foreigner who she had always had a crush on. Met him out. Had sex with him. The lead singer of Foreigner. I thought that was great. I mean, I feel bad saying that because she did cheat on her husband with him. But you know, and then she tells you how she met Joe, like he really was the contractor and you know, but she wasn't happy in her marriage. And Jan wasn't making any changes to make that any better.

Wendy (42:51.466)
Mm.

Wendy (43:03.624)
Right, right.

Kelli (43:08.749)
So, you know, we've said this about the people in the Valley, you know, Brittany and Michelle, like, if you're not giving your wife or your spouse what they need...

Wendy (43:18.943)
They're gonna go elsewhere.

Kelli (43:20.079)
They are, they're gonna look elsewhere. So she talks about that and very good book. It goes into how she was being sued. So at the time she wrote this, she was on good terms basically with everybody. Like there is a picture in there with her and Jenny. Yeah, so she was fine with Teresa at this point, you know. So it ends like, I guess within her first couple of seasons of Jersey. But she's like,

Wendy (43:37.044)
Really?

Kelli (43:49.615)
If Margaret isn't asked to come back, and I hope she is because I personally like her, she's gonna be fine. She's got, she's doing fine, Margaret.

Wendy (43:59.388)
Yeah, yeah, I think that she is. I think that she is doing fine.

Kelli (44:03.395)
It was a good book though, it was very interesting, especially the stuff about Marge Senior.

Wendy (44:08.917)
Good for her, good for her. All right, so I don't have anything else for Miami. So until next time, thank you for watching. Please subscribe. Bye.

Kelli (44:09.945)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (44:18.158)
Bye.