RHOM-Guerdy’s Me Era: The Read Heard Round Miami

Wendy (00:01.049)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.691)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:05.381)
Before we talk about Real Housewives of Miami, we want to talk about a couple of things that happened this week. Unfortunately, we lost Ozzy Osbourne and Malcolm Jamal Warner and then Hulk Hogan all in one week. It's not as, yeah, was very sad. No, it was not. We are going to talk about now Real Housewives of Miami, season seven, episode number seven.

Kelli (00:19.724)
Yeah, all in week. Very sad. Not a good week for Gen Xers, man.

Wendy (00:35.427)
textual tension.

Kelli (00:38.597)
that's a good title.

Wendy (00:41.399)
It is a good title. It is.

Kelli (00:43.532)
Yeah, I like that.

Wendy (00:45.061)
We start out with Julia and Martina at the farm with Luca and Jackson. So this is the first time we're really meeting Luca and Jackson.

Kelli (00:54.508)
Did you notice that they were wearing Balenciaga?

Wendy (00:57.637)
Yeah, I did. I did.

Kelli (00:59.156)
I don't understand these housewives. They're all wearing Balenciaga and I thought that that was like a no-no.

Wendy (01:05.357)
It was canceled, yes. Yeah, it was. It was. I don't understand it. I did notice that though.

Kelli (01:12.14)
I will make you laugh. Tess goes, is that her mother? Tess thought Martina was Julia's mother.

Wendy (01:17.157)
Martina. Well, there you go. They're not that much difference in age, are they? I mean, 10 years, but that's not that, it's not mother. But one of them has a facelift and one of them had cancer, so maybe there's that. I'm just saying, right? So yeah, Julia says that Martina is acting 20 years younger.

Kelli (01:23.894)
I don't think they are.

Kelli (01:34.508)
Well, you know what? You're right. You're right. I think of that. Yeah. Yikes.

Wendy (01:45.773)
I'll be honest with you. First of all, I had to rewind a couple of times because I wasn't sure if it was their farm or a farm, but it was definitely their farm because we haven't. Right, and they knew the name of the goat or the cow or something like it was their farm, but we haven't seen their farm in how many years now?

Kelli (01:52.512)
Right. Yeah, cause then they wind up going in the house.

Kelli (01:59.79)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:04.014)
I mean, probably since Julia's first season on the show, I think. Yeah.

Wendy (02:07.557)
Right? So thought that was a little odd. The other thing I thought was odd is that like, so Adriana shows up and she's like meeting them for the first time. I thought she showed up very respectful. She's like, you know, can I, you know, can I say hi? Like she was like, you know, asking like, yes, asking for permission, right? But then all of a sudden Alexia comes over and like picks up Jackson. Like it doesn't seem like this was the first time Alexia met these kids, did it? I mean,

Kelli (02:23.982)
Cautious.

Yeah.

Kelli (02:34.606)
I doubt it was. I doubt it was because Julia's up there. Yeah, Julia's up there ass so her Marisol so I'm sure you know they've met before

Wendy (02:37.281)
Not the way she was acting.

Yeah.

Wendy (02:45.015)
Yeah. And then Karamo FaceTimes with Julia and the boys and he lets them know that he's being honored by the LGBTQ Task Force Gala and he invites her to come support him and all of her friends.

Kelli (03:00.802)
I'm not a huge Karamo fan. I'm gonna tell you why. But I like his, what's that word? How he's very into charities and philanthropists. He's a philanthropist. I do like that. But I used to watch E! News all the time and Cat Sadler was one of my favorite people on E! Network. And I watched the episode where he was very, very rude to her.

Wendy (03:02.926)
Okay.

Wendy (03:10.937)
Mm-hmm. Okay.

Kelli (03:30.562)
very rude to her I was like, who is this guy? And then I think she left the show after that. I don't know. I really got a look into it. But she didn't, wasn't on the show after that. And I stopped watching because I was like, he was so rude and now she's not on. So I don't know if there's any other backstory to it other than that. But ever since then, I was never a big fan of his, but I do respect his philanthropy.

Wendy (03:37.956)
Really?

Wendy (03:41.583)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (03:57.965)
Yeah, definitely, definitely. So then we see Larissa meets up with a closet designer and we find out that she's purchased a new house for her family. Although she loves the penthouse that she lives in, it's not really great for a family, which I totally get. Stephanie's meeting her there because she wants to redo her closets as well. Larissa says this is the first house that she's bought on her own and it's a five-bedroom home.

Kelli (04:00.302)
Yeah.

Kelli (04:13.752)
Yeah.

Wendy (04:26.797)
I'm assuming it's in Miami. So I can't imagine how much her penthouse is and a five bedroom home all in Miami. Like, is she keeping both? Like, that doesn't make sense.

Kelli (04:36.994)
Yeah.

She's got that MBA money, man. That's guaranteed money. That's money for life, that MBA money. So.

Wendy (04:43.553)
Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I like that Stephanie was actually there like seriously shopping and giving Larson very good closet designing shopping tips about the glass, you know, the fingerprints on the glass, makeup on the drawers. Like she's like she's done this before. You would tell she's done this before.

Kelli (05:00.173)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:04.428)
Yeah, well, look at what the business she's in. She's designing, you know, living space. Yeah, luxurious living space. So she was the right person to call, that's for sure. And she has OCD, so it's a perfect combination.

Wendy (05:07.469)
Yeah, that's true. Yes. Luxury. Yes. Yes, she is. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Wendy (05:20.301)
I feel like though Larsa is not gonna listen to a single thing she said. I feel like we're gonna see Larsa's closet. Yep, it's gonna be exactly everything Stephanie told her not to do. And mirrored, like mirror fingerprints and everything, right? So then we see it's the day of the gala and

Kelli (05:23.508)
Not one little thing. Not even a tiny bit.

All white, right, all white and glass.

Wendy (05:48.961)
Julie's there on the red carpet and she announces that she's you know adopted these two little boys and That's I guess how she tells the world. She's invited all the ladies

Kelli (06:00.79)
Ramo comes out a little bit over the top, especially with Stephanie, didn't he?

Wendy (06:04.805)
with the necklace, can see, yeah, I did think that was a little over the top. I don't know him from E, I only know him from, I think he was on Queer Eye from the Stray, yeah, that's where I know him from. But I didn't, know, so that part didn't really surprise me, because that's kind of what he was like the designer one, kind of. Yeah, yes, yes, yes he was.

Kelli (06:06.466)
Yeah, I can smell wealth.

Kelli (06:15.278)
Queer Eye for this trick, I guess.

Kelli (06:26.174)
so he was like over the top on that show?

Wendy (06:33.231)
So Stephanie picks up Marisol in the Rolls-Royce, and she has a cocky bar in there for Marisol. Marisol's like, her Rolls-Royce doesn't have the same cocky bar. But we find out that at 57, Marisol has had her first colonoscopy. I don't know that we needed to know that. I mean, thank you for sharing, Marisol. Yes, and hers looks fabulous, too, by the way. She let us know that it looks fabulous. So that's good to know.

Kelli (06:50.926)
Probably not, but I'm glad she had it done.

Kelli (07:00.302)
We can all rest easy tonight.

Wendy (07:02.821)
you

Kelli (07:04.96)
You

Wendy (07:06.255)
So all the ladies show up. Julia said that she feels good after the goddess party. She feels like her and Gertie are in a good place. Is that when she's talking to Russell? Not yet.

Kelli (07:17.516)
No, she doesn't talk to Russell until Gertie's event. We're still at the...

Wendy (07:22.393)
yes, that's right, that's right. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

Kelli (07:23.224)
Cause Alexia tells Marisol that she was with Todd last night and Marisol's not feeling it at all. And then Gertie announces that she's having the celebration.

Wendy (07:32.813)
Yes, so Kiki brings her friend Carmen and Kiki said many people might know her from Drag Race, but I know her as my friend from modeling. And we find out that 10 years ago, she was supposed to walk at the Victoria's Secrets fashion show and there was a petition for her to walk, but they would not allow trans people to walk. Now I don't know if that was because it was in a certain country that didn't allow for trans people. I can't imagine it was Victoria's Secret that didn't allow it.

Kelli (08:01.346)
I can't imagine it was a Victoria's Secret either.

Wendy (08:02.373)
I would think it would have to be a country that did not like it, like maybe Russia or a country that doesn't, I don't know.

Kelli (08:09.922)
And by the way, is this wrong for me to say? I never would have known she was a transgender if they didn't say it.

Wendy (08:17.183)
No, I wouldn't either. No, it's not wrong.

Kelli (08:18.612)
I would never suspect that.

Wendy (08:22.433)
Mm-mm. No, it's not. No. But she did mention that that's why this event that they're at is so important, is because they fight for the rights of trans people.

Kelli (08:30.915)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (08:34.7)
Yeah, yeah, I would imagine, I think you're right. It must have been somewhere that it had to, because I can't see Victoria's secret. I mean, why would they have asked her? She was supposed to walk, so they clearly had asked her.

Wendy (08:39.373)
It had to be a country, because I, right? No. Right, right.

Yeah.

Kelli (08:50.476)
And no one in America, I don't think anywhere in America.

Wendy (08:53.408)
No, no, it had to be, I'm thinking it had

Kelli (08:55.04)
Not anywhere that Victoria's Secret's gonna hold their fashion show. New York, LA, Miami.

Wendy (08:57.751)
Yeah, I'm seriously thinking it was probably some communist country. Because that's the only place that that's really, you know, China or Russia, right? I think that that's, I mean, there's probably other countries, but those are the two big ones I'm thinking of. So then we see Lisa's talking to Alexia and Marisol and Gertie. She's telling them that when she went to lunch with Larsa, she called her a narcissist. Okay. I mean...

Kelli (09:08.032)
Yeah, yeah.

Sure. Right.

Wendy (09:26.369)
Is this something new to any of them? Seriously?

Kelli (09:28.888)
Right. And then Lisa said, you're a larcissist. What did Marisol say? she's a poet and she didn't even know it.

Wendy (09:33.344)
That's right, she did.

Exactly. And you know, it's so funny because Marisol and her confessionals was so good, but I'm so mad at Marisol that I don't want to like her after the whole Nicole thing that I heard, you know, that her hiring the private investigator to follow her and to dig up dirt on her. can't, I can't like her. I can't. I'm sorry. I can't. And I was liking her. I was finally liking her.

Kelli (09:49.08)
I agree.

Kelli (10:03.022)
Honestly, I have a problem with a lot of the ladies for what they did at the end of this episode.

Wendy (10:09.379)
I do too, and we'll get there. I do too. I do too. So Alexia is talking to Marisol and she said how last night she ran into Todd and that they hung out all night. So then Stephanie kind of comes over and like puts her two cents in and she thinks that Alexia is blind to Todd's narcissistic ways. And she's like, I'm not a narcissist. He's not a narcissist. And she's like, yeah, no, you had the party for me. And she's like, no, that was, you know.

Kelli (10:11.286)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (10:29.71)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (10:39.141)
She's in denial. She's totally in denial. So then Gertie's... Yeah.

Kelli (10:42.302)
I mean, well, and then Stephanie says, we're all narcissists, including you. And Alexia says, I'm not a narcissist, I'm an empath.

Wendy (10:52.087)
Right, yes, that's right.

Kelli (10:53.582)
Millexia, you are a narcissist. You may be empathetic in certain situations, but you are a narcissist. You are so defensive. You never accept accountability. You are, it just is what it is. You're a great mother. You are a wonderful, wonderful mother. You're a good friend, but you are a narcissist.

Wendy (10:57.252)
Yeah.

Wendy (11:11.173)
She is. It is. she's a great mother.

She's a good friend to Marisol. I don't know that she's a good friend to anybody else. I don't know who else she's a good friend to.

Kelli (11:22.828)
Well, you're right. You're right. You're absolutely right.

Wendy (11:28.665)
Yeah, so then Gertie wants to remind the ladies that they're all invited to the celebration of life for breast cancer and it's also going to be a fundraiser.

Kelli (11:36.59)
and it's a white attire party.

Wendy (11:38.339)
Yeah, yeah, she lets them know to all wear white and Karamo ends the night with the phrase never stop fighting. And then we see 72 hours later, they are at the white party, you know, celebration of life of breast cancer and Gertie saying it's going to be, you know, it's, it's, she's going to be a year that she's cancer free. And it's a small party. There's only about 40 people and two other friends are also

cancer survivors that are going to be there, which is awesome. So that is a small party. 40 people is not a big party.

Kelli (12:13.41)
And it's at a venue that was a Baptist church that Kiki went to growing up. Which is very funny because it was something similar happened on OC.

Wendy (12:18.157)
Yes!

Wendy (12:23.343)
my gosh, that's true. Yes it did. Gertie's whole family is there. Her two sons, Russell, and they're taking some good family photos.

Kelli (12:24.578)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Kelli (12:36.6)
Julia goes to talk to Russell and it was a bit awkward.

Wendy (12:38.135)
Yep. Yep. She's talking about, she's talking to Russell and you know, she asks how the boys are doing. And then she says, you know, I have two boys now and he says, good luck. and then Julie says, I don't know if Gertie shared with you that we had a moment that I wish we didn't have, but I hope we're on a good path. And Russell's response is, I hope everyone is able to move forward. And you know, we think that that's where that lays, but we find out later, no.

Then the event is at this place is called the Sanctuary Mimo, M-I-M-O. that's, you know, we hear about Kiki and her mom. Kiki brought Carmen again to this event. So I think Carmen is going to be a friend of, because now we've had her two events, right? And I'm here for it. see, you know, I liked, I like, I like Carmen. So far anyway. Yeah, I mean, she's not, I don't, yeah, she's not there yet. Unlike Stephanie who just jumped in, you know.

Kelli (13:22.37)
Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Mm-hmm. She's gotta talk a little bit more, but that's okay. She's easing in. She's easing. Yeah.

Wendy (13:37.903)
feet first. Julia's talking to Marisol about how it was uncomfortable talking to Russell and she thinks that they're on a good path. She thinks she's on a good path with Gertie.

Kelli (13:38.86)
Yeah

Kelli (13:47.0)
Mm-hmm.

She said that he must have only heard Gertie's side of the story. Because he's looking at me like I'm the bad guy. Well, obviously, Julia, and you are the bad guy.

Wendy (13:52.973)
Well, of course, why would he hear your side? Right. Right. Right. I mean, why would he hear your side of the story?

Kelli (14:01.748)
Exactly, or why would he care what your side of the story is? That's his wife and he's going to support her

Wendy (14:09.871)
So Julia says that she wants to let Marisol know that she went out with Alexia the other night and that Todd was there. And that Todd said to her that he wants to win her back.

Kelli (14:21.41)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:23.705)
So while Julia's telling this to Marisol, Alexia comes over and sits down and says, are you talking about me? That's when Stephanie, yep. then, yep. Nope. So then Stephanie sits down and joins the conversation. And she said, are we talking about Todd, Todd, Todd? We had a party for him. Alexis said, yeah, we did. She said, yeah, the narcissist party. And she's like, well, that wasn't for Todd. That was for everyone.

Kelli (14:24.332)
Yeah.

Kelli (14:29.41)
this is the part where Stephanie says it. I'm sorry. I thought it happened at the other event. Okay.

Wendy (14:53.221)
And Stephanie said, including you. And she said, actually, no. That's when she said, I'm an empath. And Alexia's response was, well, I'm not full of myself like maybe you are. I'm like, yeah, you actually are. So then Gertie gets up and she announces that they are presenting a check to survive her, which is an amazing breast cancer foundation. The check was for $10,000, which was a very nice donation.

Kelli (15:03.968)
Yes you are. Yes you are.

Kelli (15:21.164)
Yeah, for sure.

Wendy (15:22.609)
Gertie tells him that she just had an MRI and the MRI came back that she's a hundred percent that bitch. She beat it, which good for her. And she said that she wouldn't be here celebrating life. wasn't for her. You know, she gives, you know, her flowers to Russell, her husband, her partner for life. she brings him up in the boys and she hugs them like she couldn't have done it without them.

Kelli (15:31.17)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (15:47.726)
That was very sweet.

Wendy (15:48.929)
It really was very sweet and her boys are so handsome.

Kelli (15:51.992)
They really are.

Wendy (15:54.469)
Gertie said it wasn't until after she beat breast cancer that she decided to redefine her life and be true to herself and her emotions. If you're gonna be happy, laugh and smile. If you're gonna be sad, cry. If you're gonna be mad, let it out. Thank you for coming and a few more things are happening, stand by." I was like, oh, okay. And then I note that, I mean, I literally, she says goodbye to her husband and her boys and...

Kelli (16:13.934)
Here we go.

Wendy (16:21.623)
Stephanie keeps saying the narcissist party was for Todd and Alexia is not having it. Gertie said she's going to introduce a special performance, but before she does that, she would like to shed some clarity on a situation that has cast a cloud on some of my friendship relationships and my character and the look on their faces, especially Marisol. Marisol can bug out her eyes like no other, like her surprised face.

Kelli (16:47.53)
Yes, she can.

Wendy (16:51.001)
She's like, an incident happened a few weeks back. I was willing to forgive and move forward from that. But then last week it was made clear to me that this person chose to continue and perpetuate the matter even more. So tonight it's necessary for me to set the record straight by telling the truth and exposing the lies.

And then behind her, see all the text messages, the screenshots of the text messages between her and Julia.

Kelli (17:18.936)
So what do you think? Do you really think she just made that game time decision when the boys were leaving or do you think that this was planned?

Wendy (17:25.069)
I do. No, no, no, no, no. She was on Watch What Happens Live. So she was on Watch What Happens Live. And I might get to those notes.

Kelli (17:39.63)
So basically her text messages were to prove that she didn't volunteer to go on the cruise. Excuse me. Julia asked her to go on the cruise and she said, okay, okay, let me talk it over with Russell and I'll come.

Wendy (17:45.707)
Exactly. Right.

Wendy (17:56.047)
So yes, she made that decision after, cause Andy asked her on watch what happens live. So after we see that Russell came back and she was talking to Russell and she found out what happened, she talked to Russell about it and he knew what she was going to do. So she, it was, it was planned. It was planned at that moment. I mean, it wasn't like, it wasn't like she planned it before that. You think she planned it?

Kelli (18:14.456)
So was planned. Yeah.

Kelli (18:24.726)
I don't know. A part of me thinks maybe she had this plan. Ever since the narcissist party, I don't think she would have done anything if Julie didn't bring it back up at the narcissist party. But I think after that maybe, but listen, who cares at this point? Who cares when she decided to do it?

Wendy (18:25.661)
you think she planned it?

Wendy (18:41.869)
Yeah, I mean, that's true. I don't, but you know me, I'm always like, no, I believe her.

Kelli (18:46.7)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, maybe it was a game time decision, but... So she's just basically trying to prove that she didn't volunteer to go on the cruise. The text messages were very long to just prove that point. But ladies, this is why you don't put anything in writing.

Wendy (19:01.219)
Yes, exactly. Exactly why you don't put anything in writing. Exactly.

Kelli (19:05.837)
Call someone and say it.

Wendy (19:09.253)
Right. So the look on the lady's face is she goes on to say, goal from all this was to, is not to prove who's right or wrong. I think that this will be very, will be very healthy for our group to move forward in a positive and truthful manner. So, okay, if that's what you think, Marisol says that this is dirty and I don't like it. Stephanie says this is about surviving cancer and all her friends are here. Marisol goes on to say it's very distasteful.

Julia's face, like they all go to Julia. So Marisol.

Kelli (19:43.576)
What did you think about Julia's face? I don't think Julia knew what the F to do. Because that was very clear that Gertie proved her wrong.

Wendy (19:48.389)
She did not know what to do. She did not. was.

Wendy (19:56.547)
Yeah, yes, it was. It was very clear.

Kelli (19:59.374)
And for Larsa, Marisol, Alexia, and who else? Julia. Well, obviously she's going to leave. But for Alexia, Marisol, and Larsa to get up and just berate Gertie for what she did. This is 100 % something Larsa would have done. 100%. I mean, listen, I don't know if I agree with, mean, people, this is how low our standards are now though.

I'm like, well, at least she didn't put up a picture of her giving oral sex to somebody like Kenya did. Like this is how low the bar is set now on Bravo. It's very sad.

Wendy (20:33.913)
Yeah.

Well, that's sad. It is sad. So before we kind of see all that, they flashback and we find out, because we didn't tell them what happened. We find out that when Russell was talking to Julia, Julia said that, you know, we're moving forward. And then he relayed that to Gertie and Gertie is like, well, no, that's, you know, I thought we were making progress and no, we're not moving forward. And in her mind, she still thinks we're moving forward. She's like,

That's when I decided to do this. Gertie says to Russell, I feel like this is point in time. Like I have to either stand true to the words I said that said, you know, when I, need to stand up for myself. If I'm mad, I need to be mad. If I'm happy, I need to be happy. Like this is, this is the time to do it. And you see her in her dressing room. She's talking to her assistant. She says to her, like, I sent you some text messages. When I say this word, you set it up for me. And then she says,

to quote a part of Michelle Obama, when they go low, you go high, and sometimes they go low, you go lower. She kind of did it her own Gertie way, right? Then Gertie goes and sits down next to Adriana and Lisa after she does this on stage. And I thought Adriana and Lisa were the perfect person for her to sit next to.

Kelli (21:46.37)
Right, right.

Kelli (21:59.288)
For sure.

Wendy (22:02.444)
in the confessional, they ask her like, what was your smoking gun? Like, what was it up? She's like, it was the fact that I wasn't volunteering myself to go on this. Like, I had just come back from this cruise. I did not ask her, I did not say, let me go on this with you. Like, she was...

Kelli (22:15.362)
Because when Julia told the story, she made it sound like Gertie wanted to take her, you know, steal her thunder.

Wendy (22:23.159)
Right. That's what she made it sound like. It was all about Gertie. That's what the whole, that was the whole point of it is that Julia's story was that Gertie went there so that she could be the center of attention and it was all about Gertie.

Kelli (22:25.016)
Yeah.

Kelli (22:34.22)
Now, did you listen to two tees with Dolores when they called Jen Fessler?

Wendy (22:39.309)
I did listen to that clip, I didn't listen to the whole episode.

Kelli (22:42.028)
Okay, so you should listen to the whole thing because Jen Fessler really gives good insight. Basically, from the minute Gertie got there, Julia was kind of MIA, not responsive. And the most awkward thing is that they had to share a room, but it was like a big room where there was like a hot tub and a loft. But Jen Fessler said that Gertie basically text

Wendy (22:47.299)
Okay.

Kelli (23:11.224)
Julia and was like, what's going on for dinner? And Julia said, there's no room for you. Now, if you're coming to take Martina's place, obviously there was a spot for Martina. Nobody's gonna tell Martina there's no room for you. So why are you telling Gertie, who you asked to come on this trip to be supportive of you? And that's why Jen Bussler was like, so then Gertie was like, well then why did I leave my husband and my kids to come here? So.

Wendy (23:24.196)
Right.

Kelli (23:37.748)
Obviously she wasn't making it about herself. She just wanted to be included in things since she just left her husband and voice. It's good what Jen Fessler said.

Wendy (23:44.1)
Right.

Yeah, and Jen Fessler was on Watch What Happens Live. Yes, she was in the audience with, she was in, yes, Gertie was on and Russell and Jen Fessler were in the audience. So it just, it just shows you that they really are friends.

Kelli (23:50.242)
she was? With Gertie?

Kelli (23:58.006)
Okay, I don't know, I don't think I saw that.

Kelli (24:03.928)
She said, and Jen Festler said, listen, Gertie is my friend, but she does not pay my bills. There is no reason I would come on here and make something up or say anything that's not true. I do think Jen Festler's a little thirsty and really wants to be on Bravo. I don't think she's a liar. I don't think she's a liar.

Wendy (24:17.293)
Yeah, she's definitely thirsty, but I don't think she's a liar like she said

Right, I agree. I don't think she's a liar.

Kelli (24:25.868)
And I think she would admit that she's thirsty.

Wendy (24:30.245)
So Larsa, Alexia, Kiki and Marisol are all talking to Julia. They say they don't like this. She should not have done this in front of everyone.

Kelli (24:40.578)
Mind your business, ladies.

Wendy (24:41.963)
Larissa said, I wanted to read the text messages, but they were so long. I got to the second one and I was like, I'm not doing this. The fact that she would exploit these text messages in front of strangers that have nothing to do with this group. Okay. They probably didn't want to read them either. They probably, yeah. So you're good. then Stephanie, I like this. Stephanie says to Carmen, rule number one, never send text messages because they save everything. I think that's a good rule, Stephanie. So Stephanie's already giving Carmen some good pointers.

Kelli (24:54.979)
of course not. Right. Of course not.

Kelli (25:08.599)
Yes.

Wendy (25:12.165)
Alexi in a confessional says, hate text messages on the one who always picks up the phone and calls, especially now. Gerty will not be texting you. So she's not going to be texting Gerty anymore. Gerty tells Lisa and Adriana about the conversation to squash it and move forward. And then how at the Grecian party, she raised her hand and brought it up because they didn't know that she had a conversation. Like, how would they know?

Kelli (25:36.674)
Right.

Wendy (25:40.107)
And Lisa said, I love this, Lisa said, note to self, don't F with Gertie. I agree. Don't F with Gertie.

Kelli (25:44.948)
Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

Wendy (25:48.189)
So Marisol said this and again, this was another great Marisol confessional, even though I don't want to like Marisol. I don't, I don't like her. She said in her confessional, I don't understand what's going on. This is going to take me to the looney bin. This is crazy, crazy shit. She said El Chapo had it right. I want it. I want an underground tunnel and I want it. I want to escape. I was like, Oh my God. Only, only Marisol. Then she goes up to Gertie and says, I don't like this. I'm leaving. Gertie says, okay, that's fine. Lexi says, this is, this was not the place. Gertie said,

Kelli (25:54.38)
I know, I know.

Wendy (26:17.981)
I had to do this tonight for a certain reason. I don't know what that meant. I don't know why she said I had to do it tonight for a certain reason, unless she was referring to the reason was she was up there saying that this is the new Gertie and this is my truth and I'm putting it out there. So Alexia, Lars, Marisol and Julia all leave. Adriana, Lisa and Kiki stayed. Adriana said that she is friends with both Julia and Gertie and in a position right now is she wants to listen to both sides because she goes outside to talk to Julia.

Kelli (26:30.444)
Right. Right.

Kelli (26:47.821)
Yeah.

Wendy (26:48.259)
You know, she goes out there to see how she's doing. And I think...

Kelli (26:50.604)
And she tells Julia, like, should show your text messages. And Julia's like, I don't need to do that. Well, what we just saw the text messages, Julia's not gonna have anything different than Gertie does. We just saw the chain between the two of them, right? Like, she's not gonna have more than what Gertie just showed.

Wendy (26:53.807)
Yes!

Wendy (27:04.079)
Right.

Wendy (27:07.865)
Well, you know, that's what Adriana was saying her. Like if you have a different truth, you put your truth out there. Like she was giving her truth, now you put your truth out there. And she's like, well, I'm not gonna stoop to that level. You know what it is, you can't because she was right. So I then, listen.

Kelli (27:17.026)
Right.

Kelli (27:20.492)
You can't. Right.

Wendy (27:28.281)
Marisol also compared the whole thing to Carrie with them dumping the blood on the prom queen. was like, that's a bit much. That's a bit much. But listen, as a Gen Xer, I could certainly appreciate the Carrie reference. Not applicable.

Kelli (27:36.229)
my god, Marisol. That's a bit of a stretch. Please.

Kelli (27:48.002)
We like the reference, but not applicable.

Wendy (27:53.933)
Stephanie goes outside and talks to the ladies and said listen, I'm gonna stay I'm gonna remain neutral in the situation and Alexi like goes off on her What do you mean her to remain neutral?

Kelli (28:01.528)
You're gonna go back in there and kiss Gertie's ass? No, she's new to the group. But see, here's the thing. That's where the Miami Teresa comes out. It's like you're with us or you're against us. And Larsa brought you into this group and Larsa's with us. That means you gotta be with us too.

Wendy (28:03.437)
Yeah, she's like, right.

Wendy (28:13.614)
Yes.

Wendy (28:17.837)
And Larsa's leaving. Exactly. Did Dolores, did that come up at all about that on the podcast about the you're with us? Okay. Yeah, but no, that is true. I mean, that's how they are. That's how they are either with us or you're not. And she's like, no, listen, I'm, I'm new to this group. I want to hear both sides of this story. I'm not leaving her. I'm not, I'm not. And Alexi is like, well, you can't go from one side to another. And she's like, listen, I'm tired of you barking. Alexi is like,

Kelli (28:24.674)
No, no, I don't think so, no.

Kelli (28:39.405)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (28:46.946)
break.

Wendy (28:48.013)
You sit next to me and you attack my marriage and she's like, and then you're gonna go back in there and you're gonna kiss her ass. Stephanie's like, no, that's not what I was doing. She's like, I wanna be neutral. I wanna try and understand what's going on. And then she's like, Stephanie said, what's wrong with being neutral? Maybe this is your norm because you're married to a crazy guy. Did see the look on Marisol's face when she said that? I'm like, my God, she just called Todd a crazy guy.

Kelli (29:14.882)
Yes. Yes. Yes. So good. So good.

Wendy (29:21.089)
Alexi said leave my husband out of this and Alexi said if your if your marriage were so great You wouldn't be a part of this shit show

I was like, what is going on? These women are so ridiculous. Okay.

Kelli (29:31.598)
That was good.

That was really good.

I love when Stephanie told her to shut the F up.

Wendy (29:41.613)
Yep. And she's like, do you want me talking about my suits? She said, no. She's like, okay, then let's keep it that way. She said, in her confessional, this is why I don't get along with sensitive people, which is true because I mean, Stephanie is not sensitive. mean, first of all, I hate to say this, but she's not a mother. So she doesn't have that like nurturing maternal kind of thing, right? She's also not sensitive. She's like a no nonsense, no, like this is, this is how it is. You know, you either take it or you don't.

Kelli (30:01.194)
that maternal. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (30:11.108)
Right?

Kelli (30:11.564)
And I don't even know if you could say Alexia is sensitive. Alexia is defensive. Yeah, so.

Wendy (30:16.417)
definitely defensive. but she's an empath. She's an empath. She's got no empathy for Gertie, but she's an empath. right. And beat it and beat it. And, and yeah, what Gertie did was wrong, but what Julia did throwing, throwing, and this is, this is what was brought up. And this was brought up on Watch What Happens Live. The fact that Julia could throw the, they're calling it water. I don't think it was water at the wedding.

Kelli (30:23.082)
Exactly. Who was going through cancer. Exactly. And he did. Yeah. No, I...

Wendy (30:46.465)
in Gertie's face twice, twice, she threw it and didn't all go and she threw it again. There was two actions there and not one person that just left Gertie's event stood up and said to her, don't you dare do that to Gertie. Not one person. No, not one of them.

Kelli (30:55.79)
Great.

Kelli (31:02.318)
Right. Not one of them. And by the way, ladies, you're standing around saying you're going to leave. Fucking leave. They were standing around for so long. I'm like, why are they still there? Leave.

Wendy (31:11.013)
Exactly.

Kelli (31:20.046)
They're like, my God, we're in the middle of a church. It's not a church anymore. So stop saying that.

Wendy (31:23.727)
Right. That was so funny too, because Marisol said, wait, what? We're in a church? What do you mean we're in a church?

Kelli (31:32.788)
I am getting a little tired of Marisol playing dumb. She's not that dumb, but she sure does like playing that role.

Wendy (31:38.213)
You

Wendy (31:42.351)
So the episode ends, Gertie ends the episode with, this is my me-era period end of story. And that's what it said on the wall behind her. And you know what? And I don't know if you also noticed, it said Gertie Fied. Like the event was Gertie Fied. Did you notice that? I was like, I so glad to see that because that's who she is. So then we see scenes for the next episode and Martina's talking to Julia.

Kelli (32:00.116)
I did see that, yes.

Kelli (32:05.475)
Yes.

Wendy (32:10.821)
I hate every part of this. she pre-planned this. Okay, yes, she did, but whatever. And she wasn't wrong. But then we get to see Dr. Nicole. So happy to see her talking to Gertie. I just don't understand what happened. We were all really good friends. So I'm looking forward to the next episode because I'm glad to see Dr. Nicole is back. And I'm glad to see that she's there talking to Gertie and that...

Kelli (32:15.054)
Mm-hmm. Right.

Yes.

Kelli (32:32.846)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (32:37.922)
Yes.

Wendy (32:38.403)
You know, she's on Gertie's side as she should be, right? And Dr. Nicole was there for Julia the whole time Martina was going through the cancer. Just as much as she was there for Gertie. I mean, come on. So then on Watch What Happens Live, it was Gertie and Tommy Dorfman. I don't know who Tommy Dorfman is, but Tommy Dorfman is an author and a Miami super fan. In the audience, I told you it was Russell and Jen Fessler.

Kelli (32:41.24)
Right.

Kelli (32:46.83)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (33:06.383)
Jen was also not at the dinner with Captain Sandy. We find that out too. She was not. She was not.

Kelli (33:10.836)
I didn't know that, I thought she was.

Kelli (33:16.824)
Interesting.

Wendy (33:17.623)
I thought so too. I thought so too. So she wasn't at that dinner either. So then she wasn't, she was on the cruise, but she wasn't invited to that dinner. Listen, there's only so many seats at the table. I don't know.

Kelli (33:21.944)
She wasn't invited to it because she was on, she was on the-

Kelli (33:33.422)
So maybe Martina wasn't supposed to go?

Wendy (33:37.859)
I don't know. I don't know. I just know that she wasn't at the, she wasn't at the cap, she was not at the dinner with Captain Sandy.

Kelli (33:40.92)
That's interesting though.

Wendy (33:51.257)
So, Gertie, the next, watch what happens live, Andy starts doing his questions, his polls. The first one was, Gertie showing the text justified or messy? 83 % said messy. Gertie said it was a little bit of both. She said she had her party and there was two parts. It was the first part and the other part was the after party. And this was at the after party because she had said goodbye to her family and then this was the after party.

Next question was, seeing the text, whose side are you on now, Julia or Gerties? You're not going to believe this. 56 % of the people are on Julia's side.

Kelli (34:35.39)
Come on, what is wrong with you people? What is wrong with you?

Wendy (34:38.039)
I don't know. I don't like it. I don't like it.

Kelli (34:42.894)
She's horrible this season, Julia. She's horrible.

Wendy (34:45.061)
She really is. really is. Andy asked what she thought about Lars's saying the text messages were too long to read. Kurtis' responses is great. Well, hooked on phonics worked for me. Next question, poll question was Stephanie mouthing off about Todd fair or too much? 69 % said it was fair.

Kelli (35:01.358)
That's awesome. That's great.

Wendy (35:16.133)
I thought, Next one was, Alexia's narcissist party really about Todd. 83 % said yes.

Kelli (35:25.294)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (35:27.487)
Andy asked Gertie if she felt like she was effective in her goal. And I loved her response. Gertie said, it was about me. You I want to sleep at night. I wanted to release what no longer serves me. And that's what I did. It wasn't about her winning. It was about her saying her truth. She feels a certain way. This is what happened. I'm tired of people spinning this narrative and attacking my character. putting out my truth. Do with it what you may.

Kelli (35:42.83)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (35:52.673)
Andy asked if she felt the ladies gave the same admonishment to Julia for throwing the drink on you as they did for you showing the text. Gertie said, no, they left my party and they didn't say anything when she threw the drink, which is exactly what I just said. It's true. It's absolutely true. And he said, was Russell aware of what you were going to do? She said, yes, Russell supported her. He asked, what was the reaction of the non-Housewife people at the party? Gertie said, these people ride hard for me. Like they were there to support her.

Kelli (36:04.278)
Right. Right. Yeah.

Kelli (36:21.88)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (36:22.339)
You know, they didn't care. They didn't care.

So, you know, we'll have to wait and see what happens next week, but I do not like this. I do not like the mean girls. I don't like it.

Kelli (36:33.486)
No, all got up and left and then that was bad enough. But when Stephanie said, I'm gonna go in and hear Gertie sigh, the way they reacted, or especially Alexia, just proves that they were like, you're with us or you're against us. 100 % mean girl mentality.

Wendy (36:54.147)
Yes.

Yes, and like you said, that's like a Teresa thing. And I don't like to mention her name, but it is. It is so, it really is. Like they are cut from the same cloth.

Kelli (37:04.174)
100%.

Kelli (37:08.935)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Wendy (37:12.013)
So we'll have to wait and see what happens, but we do also see a little bit that they're on two separate boats and Julia's on one boat and then Adriana's on the other boat. And I hear Adriana yelling over to her, stole my best friend. Like, Julia already left you. She left you for Marisol and Alexia.

Kelli (37:18.435)
Yeah.

Kelli (37:25.388)
Yeah.

Kelli (37:31.124)
Exactly. Exactly. Let it go, Adriana. Let it go.

Wendy (37:36.619)
I know, I know. Listen, I feel like Adriana only had Julia, but now I feel like this may get her real actual friends. Like, I think the other girls are now gonna actually give her a chance.

Kelli (37:47.299)
Yeah.

Kelli (37:51.128)
Yeah, like I liked that it was like Alexia, Julia, Dr. Nicole and Gerty, like, right? Like, wasn't that like the foursome? And then, you know, you had the other old OGs, I guess you wanna say. So I did not realize, because when Larsa said that she and Lisa weren't on the show together, I was like, yes, they were, they were both original. I did not realize Larsa was on the first season with Christie Rice.

Wendy (38:02.443)
Yeah, the OGs, yeah.

Wendy (38:15.822)
At it wasn't.

Kelli (38:17.92)
and Lisa wasn't, and then Christie Rice left, I think that's her name, because she was another NBA wife. And then Lisa came season two and Larsa was gone. So was Larsa only on one season and then came back for the reboot? I did not realize that. Because when Larsa and Christie left, then Lisa Joanna Krupa came.

Wendy (38:40.939)
Mm-hmm with Roman right wasn't she with Roman

Kelli (38:44.931)
Yes.

Wendy (38:48.068)
Yeah.

So we're gonna have to wait and see what happens, but I'll be honest with you. I'm not, I don't like this whole mean girl thing. I don't like the size. We know it doesn't work. This is not gonna work.

Kelli (38:59.17)
We know it doesn't work. You can't have team this one, team this one. You're all gonna wind up like New Jersey. OC's gonna wind up like it. Miami's gonna wind up like it. Stop with the teams. It doesn't work. You can't have the, what were they talking about on Atlanta?

Wendy (39:10.661)
doesn't.

Kelli (39:16.866)
What were they calling it?

Alliances. You can't have alliances.

Wendy (39:22.074)
yes, alliances. No, you can't. You just can't. It doesn't work. You can't.

Kelli (39:25.792)
Mm-hmm doesn't work doesn't make for good TV people just so you know and How about Stephanie and Melissa on their?

Wendy (39:30.658)
No, so

Wendy (39:36.399)
commercial.

Kelli (39:37.144)
Four. Fantastic Four. Whatever it was for. Mm-hmm. And they're commercial. So God bless them. I don't think either one of them are going anywhere.

Wendy (39:40.25)
yeah, the Marvel, the new Marvel movie.

Wendy (39:45.519)
Yeah.

I don't think so either. I don't think so either.

Yeah, so we'll have to wait and see what happens next week. I think it should be a good episode just based on the promo of what's coming next week.

Kelli (40:02.562)
Yep.

Wendy (40:04.821)
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Kelli (40:10.83)
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