RHOM- Dueling Yachts & Barking Housewives

Wendy (00:01.026)
Hi, welcome to We Why Whenever, I'm Wendy. We are talking about Real Housewives of Miami, season seven, episode number eight, dueling yachts.

We Wine Whenever (00:03.718)
I'm Kelly.

We Wine Whenever (00:13.834)
Before we talk about that, should we tell them who we saw tonight?

Wendy (00:17.455)
yes, yes we should.

We Wine Whenever (00:19.71)
We decided to take a ride to Seaside because it was a beautiful night and we went to Bum Rogers and Seaside. And Melissa and Joe Gorgor were there with Antonia and other people we didn't recognize. So when we were leaving, we stopped by the table and said hi and had a nice little chat with Melissa.

Wendy (00:32.396)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (00:39.586)
We did, and she was very nice. She's always very nice. Yeah, it's always nice to run into a Jersey housewife when you're out and about,

We Wine Whenever (00:41.627)
always as always.

We Wine Whenever (00:49.81)
Yeah, yeah, that's why we love living where we live because it happens. Yeah. my God. I just saw on Facebook, Lonnie Anderson died. Yeah.

Wendy (00:52.782)
It does happen.

no! how old was she?

We Wine Whenever (01:05.748)
I think she was turning 80. She was 79. She was born in 45. I know. So may she rest in peace.

Wendy (01:08.622)
Uh-huh. That's sad.

Yes, yes. So we start out with Julia talking to Martina. She's talking about, she was still upset about the way Gertie behaved at the party. She said Adriana, she thought that she should, Adriana told her that she should go back and hash out her, show her texts and hash out her truth. And she feels like that there's some resentment.

towards her because Marisol and Alexia are friends with her now. She thought Adriana should have just come out there and stood by her and given her blind loyalty. And Adriana is like, no, I think you should go back in there and hash it out and show your text messages, tell your truth. And she didn't.

We Wine Whenever (02:03.496)
Right, and she said that she feels like she didn't follow her out because Marisol and Alexia like Julia. I mean, what grade are we in? Between Miami and OC, it's just, it's very middle school, mean girls.

Wendy (02:10.616)
Right.

Wendy (02:13.911)
Yeah.

Wendy (02:20.404)
It really is. It really is. We do find out though, because I didn't realize this when it was happening, that Julia did walk back in after that and she went up to Gertie and she said, you know, what was the point of you doing this? And Gertie said she was trying to answer her and they show it and Julia keeps over talking her. She doesn't even allow her to answer. And she said, you like, what are you here for girl? Like go home. If you don't want...

to hear what I have to say, then don't come back in here and ask me the question. And then she insulted her sneakers, by the way. She's like...

We Wine Whenever (02:51.122)
Right, right.

We Wine Whenever (02:55.706)
my God. How about Martina though? She announces that she was allowed to wear her Chanel sneakers in the royal box. Come on, Martina. Please stop, stop.

Wendy (03:03.726)
Yes. Yeah. Seriously? Yeah. I know, I know. It really is so sophomoric, these fights. They really are.

We Wine Whenever (03:15.291)
Exactly, exactly.

Wendy (03:19.2)
Next we see Stephanie meet up with Larsa. They're at Stephanie's soon to be new house. It's under construction. We find out that it was Masoud's house with his ex-wife and that shortly after the divorce, he moved out of it and they moved into the condo. But Masoud wants to move back into the house, but Stephanie is not moving back into that house until she can make it her own.

We Wine Whenever (03:25.778)
Mmm.

We Wine Whenever (03:42.814)
Like, gut it.

Wendy (03:44.078)
Like, gut it. The house is 22,000 square feet.

We Wine Whenever (03:48.208)
Even the backyard she's gutting.

Wendy (03:50.186)
Everything and she's moving the pool like she's really like she's moving the pool like there was a pool there And she doesn't like where the pool is so she's moving the pool

We Wine Whenever (03:53.812)
She's moving the ball.

We Wine Whenever (04:00.072)
Just buy a different house, Stephanie, if you're that insecure about living in your husband's first wife's. know, I've, listen, no offense to anyone, any second wife out there. My personal experience with a couple of second wives, not all of the second wives I know, but there are a couple of second wives in my life.

that I've come across that are extremely insecure about the first wife. They are not secure enough in their marriage. And they're very envious still, or just insecure about the first wife. Stephanie gives me that vibe. Not that she thinks like, I think Stephanie knows she did something wrong, and maybe that's where it comes from.

Wendy (04:42.392)
That's interesting.

Wendy (04:54.348)
I mean, it could be. She does say, we see some pictures of the outside of the house. The old style of Ms. Sue's house was very Persian and that is not her style. And I mean, that is a very distinct style. And I would imagine in Miami, that is not the normal style. It's more of, it probably stands out. And I'm curious to see what it it like winds up looking like. I mean, if it's gonna be a totally different house, then.

We Wine Whenever (05:12.284)
I would imagine not.

We Wine Whenever (05:16.212)
Hmm.

Wendy (05:24.396)
You know, I don't know, maybe it's warranted, but we do find out that her closet alone is a thousand square feet and she's going to have an entire wall full of Birkins. She wants a wine cellar, a gym, a spa, a makeup room, staff quarters and separate entrance for the staff. I want all those things too, Stephanie. You don't have any. I don't need the wall. my gosh. then.

We Wine Whenever (05:45.404)
Me too. I don't need the wall for the Birkins because whatever, I'm not.

Wendy (05:53.452)
We find out all the relationships she has with Burke. And did we find this out here? Did I see this on something else?

We Wine Whenever (05:59.088)
You must have, and I watched this on Peacock too, so.

Wendy (06:01.46)
Okay, so I saw her on something else. I don't know where she was on.

We Wine Whenever (06:04.125)
so this is why she keeps name dropping Birkin? do tell.

Wendy (06:07.71)
She has relationships in like a Birkin in every country and she talks about them. She's got relationships in Miami, in like Toronto, in Milan. Like she has relationships and that's not common. That's why she has so many because I'm sure you know it's not easy to get a Birkin. You can't just walk in and get a Birkin, which is insane to me. It's insane to me.

We Wine Whenever (06:28.945)
Mmm.

We Wine Whenever (06:34.098)
Now, right, right.

Wendy (06:37.582)
I'll be honest with you, the whole Birkin thing is kind of elitist and I love a handbag, I do. But I do like that one Tiffany Moon kind of, and she has many Birkins herself, has kind of given the green light and the okay for the fake Birkins, the Furkins, as so has Bethany Frankel. Bethany Frankel sold all her Birkins and now she is full

We Wine Whenever (06:46.294)
me too.

Wendy (07:07.48)
full steam ahead on all these fake bags that have the same quality.

We Wine Whenever (07:10.452)
$98,000 on a bag is...

Wendy (07:15.456)
I know that's, yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy.

We Wine Whenever (07:19.612)
It's stupid. It's just stupid.

Wendy (07:22.318)
I agree. I agree it is. mean, to think about it, like, you know, don't want to tell people how to spend their money, right? If they have this massive wealth, you don't want to tell them how to spend their money, but you just think about it. Like this bag, $98,000, like, do you know, like, do you know how, and again, it's not your job to feed these people who don't have food, but do you know how many people that could feed? Do you know how many, do you know how many people, right, do you know how many people that could help, with,

We Wine Whenever (07:29.926)
No.

We Wine Whenever (07:43.796)
That could help in our own country.

Wendy (07:51.606)
you know, housing and food insecurities. Again, it's not like it's your job and it's your money and you spend it any way that you want. Absolutely. I just, I just, I agree with you. And again, I like a nice handbag and I like, I like luxury items, but I just think that $98,000 for a bag is absolutely insane. I just do. I do.

We Wine Whenever (08:04.456)
Yeah, of course.

We Wine Whenever (08:11.333)
Insane. Insane.

Wendy (08:13.966)
Stephanie's saying how she'd like to have a housewarming party and she wants to invite all the ladies, but she doesn't want any bad juju. I'm like, well then maybe you don't invite all the ladies.

We Wine Whenever (08:21.94)
What do you mean she's having a housewarming party? That house is going to take years to finish. So what are we doing? Are we doing the whole Heather Dubrow and Terry Dubrow when we met Megan, remember, what was her name, Megan King? Remember they did that housewarming party on a piece of vacant land? Yeah, let's not do that, please.

Wendy (08:29.902)
Yeah, I don't know when. I don't...

Wendy (08:42.241)
did we do it on the lot?

Wendy (08:46.892)
On the land, yeah, on the lot, yeah. Yeah, I don't know when she's planning having it, but I don't know if you can have one and invite all the ladies and not expect some bad juju because that's what's coming, right? Then they start talking about what happened at Gertie's event and Stephanie said it was just too much. She said, you know, I'm very opinionated and Larsa goes, well, what else? And Stephanie said, well, we can just finish looking at the house. And Larsa's like, no, like I wanna know, like what else?

We Wine Whenever (08:57.308)
Yeah, exactly. Right.

Wendy (09:15.456)
I thought it was interesting that Stephanie's like, no, like, let's just finish. Like, I don't want to really get into this with you. But she's like, yeah. She's like, you know, can we just finish? She's like, I feel like you, you know, you got it all. I thought you got it all off your chest with Alexia. Stephanie's like, but the way she talks to everyone. And it's true. I mean, the way Alexia does talk to people, she thinks that she is the queen bee. And she's like, you know, Stephanie said, by the way, does she

We Wine Whenever (09:21.306)
Right, but why'd you bring it up then?

We Wine Whenever (09:40.788)
100%.

Wendy (09:45.1)
Does she talk to everyone like that? And Loris is like, well, she does talk to everyone like, and she does. It's not, it's not, she does. Loris is like, well, you keep bringing up Todd. She's like, but I was just trying to build her up. I was trying to tell her that when God takes out the garbage, you don't go back and get it. Like, and I guess those are harsh words to refer to someone's husband as garbage, but yeah, she was trying to tell her you don't need this. And she's like, and.

We Wine Whenever (09:51.592)
She does talk to everyone.

We Wine Whenever (10:07.134)
But that's a good friend!

Wendy (10:13.3)
I haven't been to a good event with you guys since I've been in this friend group. everyone, like, and by the way, all's Alexia does is belittle me and put me down. Like she never said anything negative about Alexia. She did only say positive things like you're better than Todd. Like, why are you accepting this? And Lars is like, well, the boat's going to be a really good event on Friday. And then we see before the event, her and Kiki are trying to figure out like, now we need two boats because

These women can't be together. And it's an overnight boat trip. Yes, it's an overnight boat trip. It's not like we're going out for a couple hours. They're going to be sleeping on this boat.

We Wine Whenever (10:43.124)
Cause they're doing it overnight, right? They did it overnight. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (10:51.292)
Yeah. Well, listen, those boats looked like they, mean, how many people, we watched below deck, how many people can get on those boats? And those boats weren't nearly as big as below deck boats, so. They probably had to split them up anyway.

Wendy (11:02.304)
Yeah, they weren't as big and you we didn't get, I don't think they did cause they originally had one boat. They originally had one boat. So we see Larissa and Kiki trying to arrange the boats and Larissa is going to have Stephanie and Alexia and Julia. And she was going to have, she wasn't going to have Marisol. She was going to have Marisol on with Gertie and Lisa and Adriana, but then she calls up Marisol and tells her who's going to be on her boat. And Marisol is like,

I don't like it, I don't enjoy being around Adriana. And so then they moved Marisol to Lars' boat.

We Wine Whenever (11:41.086)
Okay, two things. One, I don't believe for a second that Alexia was not gonna have Marisol with her at any point. Two, Marisol, you're a friend of, you have no say in this. You can fucking stay home, cause you're a friend of. And I wish she did stay home, cause she has such a stick up her ass. We'll get there.

Wendy (11:47.182)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (12:03.244)
Yeah, yeah, we will. Then we see Peter goes over to Alexia's house, her new house that she's renting on a month to month lease.

We Wine Whenever (12:12.084)
That's gotta be stressful, month to month. That's gotta be stressful.

Wendy (12:15.254)
I mean, I think everything, yeah. We find out that Frankie has been sick and he was in the hospital. He was diagnosed with diverticulitis after he was in the ER.

We Wine Whenever (12:28.37)
I believe that's very, very painful when that flares up, right? Yeah. Yes.

Wendy (12:31.278)
Yes, yes. But at least they know what it is now so that they can try and manage it. I mean, I think once you have it, you have it forever, but it can be managed, right? So then Frankie, no, Peter and Alexia are talking about when they walked in the hospital and they saw Frankie in the hospital, it brought them back to 2011 after Frankie had his accident. And they both were affected by that.

We Wine Whenever (12:40.584)
Yeah.

Wendy (12:59.734)
Alexia has a conversation with Peter that she's going to make him Frankie's guardian if something happens to her. He's 32 years old now. I guess back when she was married to Todd, mean, she still is married to Todd, Peter was not in the position to be a guardian to Frankie, but I guess she feels that now he's grown up a little bit and I guess his, cause he's had some substance use issues in the past. And I guess she feels like that they're now under control and that he could be.

We Wine Whenever (13:25.992)
Yeah.

Wendy (13:29.371)
a guardian if need be.

We Wine Whenever (13:32.54)
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure he's matured a lot. Listen, I'm sure he's watched himself on the show and reflected and...

Wendy (13:39.33)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (13:40.37)
You know, maybe made some changes.

Wendy (13:42.518)
Yep. Then we see Gerty meets up with Nicole. That's when we see that crazy expensive Birkin in the matching shoes. I love Nicole. She looked great.

We Wine Whenever (13:46.353)
Yay.

We Wine Whenever (13:52.628)
Somebody needs to check on Sheena because I don't know if you noticed this but under Nicole's name it just said Nicole. It didn't say Gertie's friend. It didn't say former. It just said Nicole. And all I could think about was when Brock was on the screen and it said Britney's friend. Somebody needs to check on Sheena.

Wendy (14:02.209)
Nicole, I didn't notice that.

Wendy (14:11.042)
Brittany's friend, that's so funny. So we see a picture of Nicole's daughter and then they show a picture of Nicole's dad and they really do look alike. Like I so saw the resemblance, right? It was almost a year ago that her father had passed and she talks a little bit about that and Gertie wants to be there to support her.

We Wine Whenever (14:25.0)
They really do. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (14:32.711)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:40.878)
during her postpartum. says she's excited to meet Stephanie and then Gertie FaceTimes her and they meet via FaceTime. And Nicole has said that she's very nice. Like she doesn't have a problem with her. And I believe that. Like that is not the reason she is not on this season. It's 100 % not the reason.

We Wine Whenever (14:58.596)
No, I mean, he dated her 20 years ago. Like, who cares?

Wendy (15:03.414)
Right, right. It just is interesting though. Isn't it interesting that they come up with someone that Anthony dated 20 years ago? I mean, is Miami that small?

We Wine Whenever (15:10.676)
I'm sure it was on purpose. And I'm sure that they thought that it was gonna get a rise out of Nicole. But meanwhile, you got Marisol, the friend, hiring a private investigator and Nicole decided not to come back anyway. But whatever, Stephanie's here. I couldn't understand what she said about the PJs, the private jets at the end. She was like, we both have private jets. Yeah, and then she like said something under her breath.

Wendy (15:23.938)
Yes.

Wendy (15:31.34)
Stephanie?

Wendy (15:35.027)
Her her private jet is bigger than Anthony's but she's not

We Wine Whenever (15:37.861)
I assume that that's what she said, but you just did.

Wendy (15:40.118)
Yes, but she's not gonna say that. But that's what she was saying. Yeah, that's what she was saying, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (15:46.291)
stupid.

Wendy (15:48.584)
We Wine Whenever (15:48.75)
All right, I figured that. figured it was something, you know, just like she said. I used to be blonde, but it's so damaging.

Wendy (15:56.706)
Well, and then Nicole said she was thinking about going red and she's like, my God, I'm like, imagine if they were both redheads, like whatever. And Nicole also said, you know, there's gotta be lot of similarities in the two of them because Anthony is picky as F. so, you know, we know that that's.

We Wine Whenever (16:04.807)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (16:15.132)
Right, right.

Wendy (16:22.414)
Alexia.

Wendy (16:29.932)
So Nicole said when she first saw Stephanie hanging out in the group, she didn't think that she was going to get along with Alexia because she said that Alexia likes people to bend the knee and Stephanie doesn't seem like the type to bend the knee. And I was like, she got that right. That's so true, right? Then Gertie tells her about the event and what happened with Stephanie and how Stephanie stood up to them.

We Wine Whenever (16:47.508)
Mmm.

Yep, totally, 100%.

Wendy (16:59.619)
And she went back in there, even though Alexia said, you're going to go in there and kiss Gertie's ass.

Nicole also said, which I liked, she stands by her friend, but if her friend does something she doesn't think is right, she tells her friend. So when Gertie told her about what she said about Julia's facelift, she's like, you probably shouldn't have said that. That's something that, and she shouldn't have. And Gertie is like, yeah, okay, she probably shouldn't have said it, but she was mad and she said it. It is what it is, right? I like though that.

We Wine Whenever (17:22.665)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (17:30.226)
Right, right.

Wendy (17:33.374)
Nicole was like, I'm not afraid to tell my friends when they're doing something wrong. And she's like, I don't even know how we got to this place because it was just like a year ago that like, you we were all in your bed, like bringing you shakes. And now all of a sudden, you know, this is where Julia's at with you. And if you...

We Wine Whenever (17:50.26)
Yeah, like she said, she noticed a shift where like Julia's not even with Adriana anymore.

We Wine Whenever (17:58.728)
And then Gertie asks, what would it take for Nicole to come back to the group? And she's, it makes a face and then she says TBD. They should get rid of Marisol and bring Nicole back. Marisol has nothing to this show.

Wendy (17:58.802)
Wendy (18:11.702)
I agree. I agree. I totally agree. I would give up Marisol in a heartbeat to get Nicole back.

We Wine Whenever (18:12.969)
I just don't see it.

We Wine Whenever (18:20.082)
Yeah, because Nicole's actually showing us her life, her relationship, her children, her relationship with her father, like her mother. She's actually showing us her life. Marisol shows us nothing. I don't even know if she's really married to that guy.

Wendy (18:34.54)
No. I mean, they did get married like three times. I think they actually really are married.

We Wine Whenever (18:39.016)
Exactly. Like, well, I know somebody else who just got married three times this year, but whatever. Yeah. I guess that's maybe that's a thing now.

Wendy (18:44.366)
Oh, interesting. I don't know. mean, once is enough for me. Who was it? Oh, I just saw somebody on, one of my Facebook friends just got married, but they're having a big wedding ceremony, I think, in like 2027, and they just wanted to be married right away. And I'm thinking to myself,

We Wine Whenever (18:54.364)
Amen to that, sister.

Wendy (19:10.616)
my God, like why would you put yourself through that? I get it that you wanna be married and be married, but then you're gonna spend all that money and do this big party. Like why? I don't get it. I don't get it. That's just me. No, no. These are young people actually. They're very young. They're young. Like, but they just wanted to be together. I was like, all right, be together. Like, but then maybe it is, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (19:17.554)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (19:21.139)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (19:26.652)
Is it a second marriage? okay.

We Wine Whenever (19:37.236)
So maybe that is a thing.

Wendy (19:40.206)
Maybe it is a thing. So it's the day of the yacht trip. I thought it was interesting that the yachts are like completely on two different docks. not even near each other. Like they boarded like in two separate piers, which I was like.

We Wine Whenever (19:52.807)
Yeah. Well, I think Kiki called in a favor at Miami Yachts, the guy she used to date, right? So I guess she had to go there, you know.

Wendy (20:02.947)
Yeah.

Yeah, I just thought that was interesting, right? So it turns out that we have Lars, Marisol, Alexia, Stephanie and Julia. That's the one boat. And the other boat is Lisa, her friend Ebony, who she's...

We Wine Whenever (20:07.848)
yeah, for sure.

We Wine Whenever (20:19.55)
Yeah, I hope she gave Kiki the heads up she was bringing a plus one. I hope so. Excuse me, yeah.

Wendy (20:22.538)
I'm sure she did and Kiki knows her too. Like Kiki also knows her and Gertie and Adriana. Stephanie in her confessional says, Alexia said she'd rather not be on the boat with Stephanie. And she says, it's too soon to throw someone under board. Alexia says this and she's like, no, I'm overboard. And when she was doing that.

We Wine Whenever (20:50.93)
I mean overboard ya.

Wendy (20:52.364)
I was like, my God, she's so Teresa. Teresa would say the same thing. Like not know the difference between underboard or overboard. Like how do you mix those up? I swear to God they really are. No, it's really not. It's not, no. So I thought it was so interesting that Stephanie shows up on the boat when we find out she's not staying because her husband is taking for her.

We Wine Whenever (20:57.777)
Absolutely.

We Wine Whenever (21:02.036)
100 % to the same person.

And that's not a compliment to either one of them. Not for me at least.

Wendy (21:21.186)
taking her for a quick trip to Canada.

We Wine Whenever (21:23.74)
Yeah, what's that all about?

Wendy (21:25.75)
And I thought, I didn't know she was coming back the next day. mean, literally it was a quick trip to, it was a date. It was a date night to Canada.

We Wine Whenever (21:32.36)
Yeah, it was kind of weird. That's kind of weird. Right.

Wendy (21:34.882)
From Miami to Canada to come back to Miami the next day? I mean, am I missing something?

We Wine Whenever (21:39.25)
Yeah, yeah, something's not right. I mean, I know they have a PJ, but... And where's Gertie?

Wendy (21:43.863)
Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know. So Gertie had an event. I found that out, I think, when she was on the podcast with Teddy. She was on the podcast with Teddy. No, she had something that she was doing, so she came in late. So Kiki's explaining to her group that they had to split the group up, and Marisol said she didn't want to be on the yacht with Adriana. Which, by the way, once we see how Adriana is behaving, I

We Wine Whenever (21:51.763)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (21:56.446)
Tamara, Teddy, okay.

Wendy (22:15.48)
do kind of get it. mean, she was very intoxicated and she was so obnoxious. She really was obnoxious.

We Wine Whenever (22:19.582)
She was drunk, yeah. Yeah.

But I think she got more obnoxious and drank more because of what Marisol said. Because she knew Marisol. Don't you think? Like that kind of fueled her a little bit? I could be wrong.

Wendy (22:35.97)
think it was, I mean, what did Marisol say? was Adriana that was really poking the bear. She's the one who was yelling over there that you stole my best friend.

We Wine Whenever (22:43.87)
But that's what I'm saying, that was after Kiki told her Marisol doesn't want to be on the boat with you. I feel like when Kiki said Marisol doesn't want to be on the boat with you, it kind of fueled Adriana to drink more and act more. Absolutely not. And she even said it, maybe I shouldn't have told her.

Wendy (22:49.148)
yes, yes.

Wendy (22:54.378)
Yeah. Kiki should never have told her that. She really shouldn't have. She should never have told him. Yeah, no, she definitely shouldn't have.

Wendy (23:06.382)
Adriana keeps talking about how horrible Marisol is and how she doesn't have any talent.

We Wine Whenever (23:15.764)
She said F off you old whore.

Wendy (23:18.126)
I mean, when she was talking about her knees and her saggy, I was like, my God, I just, my God.

We Wine Whenever (23:22.15)
my god!

As Stephanie's saying, I hope y'all get along and that we have a good time. As she's saying that, Adriana's talking about Marisol getting plastic surgery to her bony knees.

Wendy (23:36.43)
And Marisol's yelling back something like, this is my third husband or something. Like, least I have three. I was like, my gosh. what? No, it really wasn't.

We Wine Whenever (23:47.432)
Yeah, it was not great shade going back and forth. Marisol talking about Laura's ass. Yeah, it's so fantastic because it's fake.

Wendy (23:57.26)
I don't think it's that fantastic. actually think it's...

We Wine Whenever (24:00.69)
It's too big.

Wendy (24:01.612)
It's just too big. It's just too much.

We Wine Whenever (24:04.134)
If it were natural, not fake, okay, but you could tell. You can so tell. I mean, that was in her Kim Kardashian stalker phase.

Wendy (24:14.561)
Yeah.

Wendy (24:18.284)
Yeah. So then Larsa asks Alexia and Stephanie if they're, you know, they're cool now. And Alexia is like, yeah, we've always been cool, but I don't like that you barked at me to Stephanie. And she's like, I didn't bark at you. She's like, yeah, you're like a chihuahua. And Stephanie said, well, you barked at me first. And she's like, yeah, but I'm like a Rottweiler. And I'm just like, my God. And then Stephanie's like, well, I'm a wolf. And I was like, all right, little do we know that this whole thing is going to come back again, right? This whole.

Chihuahua, Rottweiler.

We Wine Whenever (24:51.784)
Yeah, that was very- that conversation was very silly with the animals. That was very-

Wendy (24:56.192)
Yeah, yeah. That's when Adriana starts yelling Marisol, you induce craziness. Marisol said, that's why I'm not on that boat. Adriana's like, you have to stop manipulating everybody. Yeah, she said, actually, those are her exact words. Fuck off, you old whore. Because I wrote it down. And Julia, that was bad. Julia in her confession was like, I don't know what got into her. She's not a fun drunk, unlike Marisol. So she's saying Marisol's a fun drunk.

We Wine Whenever (25:16.734)
That was bad.

We Wine Whenever (25:25.704)
I guess.

Wendy (25:27.214)
Lisa in her confessional said, drinking is poison. It's actual poison. That's why I stopped drinking, except for today. I'm like Lisa. I'm like Lisa. And that's been, and then Adriana's like yells, they lured my best friend over there. She's trying to be with the cool girls. One day she's going to realize they're not cool girls. They're just mean cougars. Stephanie's like, before I go, just, I hope you guys have a really good time.

We Wine Whenever (25:34.26)
As she takes a sip of her cocktail. It's so funny.

Wendy (25:57.1)
Then that's when Adrienne was like, go get plastic surgery on your wrinkled knees. Marisol said, this bony ass has got three husbands, just, I can't, know, she just can't help herself. Marisol talks about Lars's butt. She's like, I've touched it, I've squeezed it, and it's so yummy and delicious. I'm like, what? wait.

We Wine Whenever (26:23.612)
And it's fake. And it's fake.

Wendy (26:24.76)
We're talking about Lars's ass this way? Seriously? I don't get it. There's no cellulite. The thing is perfection. I'm like, stop.

We Wine Whenever (26:27.06)
Alright, bye.

We Wine Whenever (26:32.756)
That's fake! She paid for it!

Wendy (26:35.982)
Then Kiki, see her and the girls loading up the water guns and they go over to the other boat. Yeah, that was cute. They go over to the other boat and they're gonna be the Bond girls with the water guns. The whole time, Adriana is totally antagonizing Marisol with that water gun.

We Wine Whenever (26:39.934)
Super cute.

We Wine Whenever (26:52.02)
Marisol is such a stick-upper-ass. That's not funny. Actually, it's very funny. You're on a yacht and you're wearing a bathing suit. And if you're not wearing a bathing suit, you should be wearing a bathing suit. So, relax or go home. You're a friend of. We don't need you here.

Wendy (26:56.962)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (27:09.134)
Yep, yep. Then we see Adriana and Julia are talking, the two of them are talking and Julia asked her why she didn't stay behind with her. And Adriana said, well, someone has to mediate. And Julia said, well, you know, that was wrong. And Adriana was like, well, I don't condone what you did. Like, I don't condone this. And then Adriana brought it up. She's like, this whole thing started when Julia threw the water in Gertie's face. And she thinks it's that.

putting the receipts of the text message on the wall is more benign than throwing the water in someone's face, which I totally agree with. And God forbid Julia get called out. Right, right. God forbid you get called out on her actions. I mean, a bunch of people did say, and I do have to agree, her putting the receipts up there, the text messages was really kind of reminiscent of what Kenya did with the poster board, with the pictures that weren't of Brit, but we thought were of Brit.

We Wine Whenever (27:44.82)
Totally agree. Because it's physical. That's physical.

We Wine Whenever (28:05.8)
that's what I said last week. Like these are where our standards are on Bravo. We're like, well, at she's not giving head. Like this is where we're at. This is, this is the bar that you can go above or below.

Wendy (28:09.856)
Right. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. It's sad. It's very, very sad.

We Wine Whenever (28:23.325)
It is sad.

Wendy (28:25.57)
Wendy (28:29.568)
So then they're at Miami Beach Marina and then Gertie shows up for dinner.

We Wine Whenever (28:35.518)
Gertie looks fantastic in hot pink, by the way.

Wendy (28:38.094)
Yes, she does. She does. She looked great. We find out that Kiki handpicked each dish so that they could get a taste of Haiti. Then Lisa says, let's play a game. Let's go around and say a positive thing we like about each other. I was like, no. Adriana says that she likes Marisol's fashion sense and she's loyal to Alexia like no one's business. All right, that was good.

We Wine Whenever (28:47.976)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (28:55.75)
Never works out.

We Wine Whenever (29:06.664)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (29:07.86)
Marisol said to Adriaan, I think it's really cool that you played the piano. I wish I could play the piano. Like, okay. Lisa's like, I'm really proud of you guys. I would love to hear Gertie and Julia. You you guys have some issues, so let's forget about those for now and let's, you know, see what you can say positive. Gertie says,

to Julie, you have a compassionate heart and it shows in everything you do in raising up these two young children, making them your own and giving them a most amazing future. Which was nice. Julia says, you know how to throw fabulous parties. I also appreciate how you honestly share your emotions without any hesitation. I cannot hide my emotions. I'm the worst actress in the world. Okay.

We Wine Whenever (29:44.82)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (30:05.838)
Julia says we had a, we sat down and we had a conversation how we were going to move forward and we have the same desire to move forward. And Gertie said, yes. Gertie said, I honestly thought we did move forward. And then I got hurt again. Cause then we see, we see that what she did, which she brought it up to Daniel 10 days earlier when she asked the question about, you know, how do you move forward with somebody? And her response was, well, I asked that question because he was there to help us and he's a professional.

He was someone she hired off of TikTok. I mean, let's get that straight. Let's just back this up a second. There was no professional there. There's some guy she found on TikTok.

We Wine Whenever (30:37.458)
Yeah, exactly.

No. And those exercises were dumb. That was so shady. They were so shady. The flag thing.

Wendy (30:46.846)
R-Right.

Wendy (30:52.046)
They were ridiculous. Gertie said, well, I felt a different way about that. I just had to react in a way that may not have been amicable for you. Alexi said, well, why did you do that at your event? Alexi said, nobody here thinks what you did was OK. Nobody thinks it. Now, this wasn't for Alexia to talk about because it was between Gertie and Julia.

We Wine Whenever (31:13.716)
Absolutely not. Right.

Wendy (31:16.312)
Gertie said, I'm not here to take accountability about what I did. I did what I did and I don't care what other people think. And I agree with her. Gertie said, Alexia, how is it affecting you? Gertie said, I'm not saying I'm sorry for it. And she's right. It doesn't affect Alexia. Why is she interjecting in this? And then in her confessional, Gertie said, listen, I am a lonely lioness and I'm not a following sheep. And you know what? Good for you, Gertie.

We Wine Whenever (31:22.292)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (31:30.546)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (31:42.95)
Absolutely.

Wendy (31:43.118)
Stand your ground. You don't have to bend a knee to Alexia. This wasn't for her to talk about. It did not affect her. And I love that you called her out on that.

We Wine Whenever (31:52.85)
Right, 100%. Now who brought up a dick pic? Because I have here I don't ever want a dick pic. I'll take a scandalous text from a friend any day over that.

Wendy (31:55.49)
And then elect.

Wendy (31:59.49)
Well, because

Yeah, because Gertie said, it's not like I, who do I owe an apology to? You walked out like it was a dick pic, like, my God. And Alexi in her confessionals like, I would rather a dick pic. She said, you could have done a whole collage of dick pics. I wouldn't have been offended. I'm like, I would have been offended. Like, are you kidding me? I don't either. No, I don't either. I don't.

We Wine Whenever (32:19.764)
don't ever want a dick pic from anybody. Nobody.

Keep that shit to yourself.

Wendy (32:27.968)
And then Marisol's like, well, you included all of us when you did it in front of us. Grady said, well, she also did it in front of everyone when she assaulted me with, and she screamed at me at your wedding.

We Wine Whenever (32:39.726)
yeah. And Julia says she's looking for Adriana to defend her. you better look somewhere else.

Wendy (32:40.984)
Yeah.

Wendy (32:45.538)
Yeah.

Yep. But meanwhile, Adriana's over there asking like, where's the wine? Can somebody help me open the wine?

We Wine Whenever (32:53.908)
Where's some more wine? Meanwhile, they locked every bottle up at this point. They're like, this bitch is not drinking anymore.

Wendy (32:58.446)
Right. No, she's not getting any more wine.

We Wine Whenever (33:04.734)
So did you notice that when Gertie asked Julia to have a private conversation, they flashed to Alexia and Alexia looked annoyed?

Wendy (33:12.436)
No, I did not notice that.

We Wine Whenever (33:13.912)
I've got, that's how I took it. I could be wrong. I'd like to know what the listeners think because it looked like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wendy (33:16.91)
It doesn't it wouldn't surprise me

Wendy (33:26.104)
So Gertie says to Alexia, like, understand that you have a deep friendship and it runs deep with her, but did you even read the text? And Marisol said, no. And in the confessionals, Keegan-Larsen also, like, they didn't even read the text.

We Wine Whenever (33:41.02)
No, they said it was too long.

Wendy (33:43.276)
I mean, it's so stupid. These women are just so stupid.

We Wine Whenever (33:47.07)
They are very stupid.

Wendy (33:53.294)
And then, know, Alexia, Gertie brings up about the water, you know, she threw the water at me, Maril says, well, that wasn't cool. Like we never thought that that was cool. Okay. But she didn't stand up to her. Right. You didn't stand up to her at the wedding. As a matter of fact, Kiki was trying to tell Gertie to leave. And Gertie wasn't the one who should have been leaving. Someone should have been telling, uh, Julia to leave. I'm sorry. I couldn't think of her name. Yeah. So much. Someone should have been telling Julia to leave.

We Wine Whenever (34:02.228)
But nobody said that it wasn't cool.

We Wine Whenever (34:17.47)
Julia to leave. Absolutely. Yes, for sure.

Wendy (34:24.44)
So then Gertie says to Julia, the question is, you want to have a private conversation? Because if you'd like to move forward and you need time to deliberate, then absolutely. So Julia's like, yeah, I do. I do want to move forward. But right now, it's too raw. So I think I'm going to need some time. Gertie's like, yeah, absolutely. The next morning, the ladies are getting up. And Adriana obviously doesn't feel great because she's totally hung over. But she's hoping for a better day.

Then we see Larissa call Stephanie. That's when I find out that she's coming back. And she's on FaceTime with her and she asked, you know, how it went. And then she asked if the Rottweiler barked and Alexia just literally said, F you, Stephanie. And Stephanie's like, well, you told me yesterday I was a Chihuahua and you were a Rottweiler. said, well, yeah. Alexia's like, yeah, well, I have a name and it's Alexia. This is what I mean about her.

We Wine Whenever (35:09.938)
Yeah, that went south real quick.

We Wine Whenever (35:16.84)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (35:22.28)
Alexia says, don't fuck with me. But she called herself a redwiler.

Wendy (35:24.556)
Yep. Yep. Yep, she sure did.

We Wine Whenever (35:29.172)
She needs to calm down, Alexia.

Wendy (35:31.942)
Yep. So then Loris is like, okay, Stephanie, I gotta go. Like she wants to get her off the phone. And she's like, I don't know.

She's just too serious, Alexia, and she really thinks that she's a queen bee. She really does. And she's not. And she's not.

We Wine Whenever (35:49.46)
She's Teresa. And she doesn't think that anybody should question her or she thinks she's the show. So nobody should be saying a damn thing to her. You're not the show. It's an ensemble cast just like every other franchise.

Wendy (36:09.559)
I totally agree.

So then on watch what happens live.

Wendy (36:21.858)
I don't know why I Gertie, it was Julia. It was Julia and Isaac Mizrahi. I don't know why. Yeah, so it was Julia and Isaac Mizrahi. And I'm gonna change that my nose. I don't know why I wrote Julia down. I mean, I wrote down Gertie. It was Julia and Isaac Mizrahi. And I do like Isaac Mizrahi, but I'll tell you what, I did not like him on this episode.

We Wine Whenever (36:26.063)
I didn't see that.

We Wine Whenever (36:42.868)
Sometimes he can be a little too much.

Wendy (36:44.554)
Yes. Also, Galena from the McBee dynasty was in the audience and that's the CFO side piece. Just noted that. So the number one question for Julia was why did you expect Russell to be nice to you after you threw water at his wife? Martina was super rude to Gertie and all she did was fail to join a Zoom call.

We Wine Whenever (37:04.456)
Exactly.

Wendy (37:10.99)
And Julie's response was, it's complicated. I wasn't expecting it. I just wanted to talk to him and I don't think Martina was rude. She didn't want to make a scene at Lisa's party. What? No, she was absolutely rude. And then he did some of his poll questions and one of them was, who side do you want, Alexia or Stephanie's? 92 % were on Stephanie's side. Yep. Is Alexia a Rottweiler?

We Wine Whenever (37:21.255)
No, she was rude.

We Wine Whenever (37:33.726)
Come on.

Wendy (37:39.598)
89 % said yes.

Should A- Well, we'll see because she wasn't on and when Stephanie called her a Rottweiler, you know, it was a problem. Should Adriana have done more to have Julia's back? 70 % said no. Adriana's shading marasoles, wrinkly and bony knees, iconic or a total miss? 52 % said it was iconic.

We Wine Whenever (37:44.04)
But see, she takes that as a compliment.

We Wine Whenever (37:58.558)
No way.

We Wine Whenever (38:08.259)
wow.

Wendy (38:11.342)
Whose yacht would you rather have been on, Larsa or Kiki's? 75 % said Kiki's.

We Wine Whenever (38:15.476)
Yeah, other one, they're just miserable.

Wendy (38:20.776)
Isaac Mizrahi said Kiki's because he loved her swimsuit and she's the Sheikahs. She's actually replaced him, Shannon Bedor for him as the Sheikah's housewife.

We Wine Whenever (38:29.106)
I'm telling you, her bathing suit, her outfit was adorable. Very sailorish, right? it was so cute. I mean, she's just stunning. Anything she wears, she's going to look adorable, but that was really cute, that outfit.

Wendy (38:35.7)
It was, it absolutely was. Yep. Yes.

Wendy (38:46.122)
Yeah, it really was, it really was. And Isaac obviously noticed that. Then behind the bar was Danny Murphy and Evan Reel from the Virtual Reality Podcast. And they're the ones who are doing, that's who we're gonna see, because they're doing the Virtual Reality Awards at the City Winery in New York City on September 17th. We have our tickets, so we will see you there.

We Wine Whenever (38:50.996)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (38:57.545)
that's who we're going to see? excellent.

We Wine Whenever (39:07.38)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (39:10.222)
Julia said that she apologized to Gertie because again she really means it from the bottom of her heart there's not a day that goes by that she doesn't regret it because Andy says is there something you want to say to her right now and she's hoping that at the reunion this can finally be squashed so much time has passed and she knows watching it again is probably bringing up hurt feelings for Gertie but she's very sorry that you know that she hurt Gertie. Well

Gertie talks about this the very next day on Teddy's podcast because she saw this the night before and she has a lot to say about it. know, Julia doubled down. She has, she's had many chances to reach out to Gertie. She has not reached out to her and I do not think anything's going to change at the reunion. I don't.

We Wine Whenever (39:53.096)
I think that Gertie's like me, like once you burn me. I'll be around you, I'll be cordial, but it's never going back. I mean, I guess most people are like that.

Wendy (39:59.96)
This- Right. Right.

Wendy (40:05.836)
Yeah.

Mm.

I don't know. Are they like, I don't know. Are most people like that?

We Wine Whenever (40:15.348)
I don't know. mean, or I'll cut you off. I could do that too. I've done that too. But if she's gonna stay on the show, she has to at least be cordial with Julia, but that's it. Julia is gonna go up in flames if she keeps chasing Marisol and Alexia. She's gonna go up in flames.

Wendy (40:16.366)
I don't know. Yeah.

We'll have to wait.

Wendy (40:26.38)
Yes, she does. She does. This is why I didn't like.

Wendy (40:34.794)
I do not like, she really is, she really is.

We Wine Whenever (40:38.996)
They'll turn on her. They're not her friends.

Wendy (40:41.198)
No, they're not. They're not. This is when Isaac said that he's so glad that you threw that water on that lady. He didn't even know her name. And he said, why? He's like, well, I liked her, but what else would the season have been? And he's like, after Julia just gave this heartfelt apology, and then you said that. And like I said, he didn't even know her name. He said, that lady. Well, Gertie.

We Wine Whenever (40:57.66)
see.

We Wine Whenever (41:01.929)
Now.

We Wine Whenever (41:06.59)
So you're promoting a physical altercation between two women. For good TV? That's not good TV.

Wendy (41:11.922)
Yeah, that's when I was like, no, when Isaac said that I was like, I'm done with you, Isaac. I think I even have a couple Isaac Mizrahi shirts. I'm not gonna wear them anymore. How do you like that, Isaac?

We Wine Whenever (41:23.706)
See now you now you're going now you're doing it. That's what I said One of I love the movie girls trip, but I hate jada pinkett smith now After will smith punched chris rock in the face. So girls trip has been on all weekend. I won't watch it

Wendy (41:26.456)
Mm hmm.

Wendy (41:40.142)
That's so funny.

We Wine Whenever (41:42.504)
I'm done. And I love that movie, but I hate her. Well, I strongly dislike her. Yeah, we don't hate.

Wendy (41:48.66)
Yes, we don't hate, right? Andy says to Julia, looking back, was it right that the ladies acted more harshly at the text reveal than they did at your drink toss? Julia said, I think the ladies were more horrified of the content and where the text were displayed. No. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (42:05.342)
Horrified of what content? She just proved that you asked her to go and she didn't offer to go. There was nothing horrific about it.

Wendy (42:10.71)
Yeah, exactly. It's not like the content was dick pics, like Gertie said. It was text messages. Right.

We Wine Whenever (42:16.24)
Exactly. Or oral sex, like on Atlanta.

Wendy (42:24.19)
Andy asked Julia if she regrets bringing it back up again at the narcissist party and Julia says no because he was a healer. I thought he could help with the best way to solve the situation to move forward.

We Wine Whenever (42:37.33)
No, you were trying to have a moment, Julia.

Wendy (42:39.467)
Again, she's like doubling down.

We Wine Whenever (42:41.842)
But you were just trying to have a moment.

Wendy (42:45.76)
And then Andy said, was it really that big of a deal that Gertie revealed that you were getting a facelift when Martina was in treatment? And Julia said, well, what was upsetting to me is that she revealed my facelift. I don't have anything to hide them over it. And she said, I was more upset about her talking about Martina's medical condition. We all knew Martina was going through cancer treatments.

We Wine Whenever (43:07.762)
Right, you talked about Mardena's medical condition.

Wendy (43:10.462)
And Andy said, by the way, your face looks superb. Andy said, as was it a full facelift? And she's like, well, it was a little bit of her neck and her chin and her eyes. I'm like, well, yep, that's a full facelift. And then Juliet clarifies, well, I went to Paris to see my daughter Emma. Andy said, and get a facelift.

We Wine Whenever (43:19.228)
Okay, so that's a full face.

Wendy (43:31.232)
Andy said we have a lot of questions. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (43:32.052)
See, this is when Andy's so good, when he's really getting to the nitty gritty and putting his little snide remarks in, and he's not scared of Julia, so he'll do that. I don't know why he doesn't do it with all of them, but whatever.

Wendy (43:39.084)
Yes!

Wendy (43:50.764)
No, agree. Julie said, Martina. Andy. this was a good. This is a really good one. Andy said, we have a lot of questions. People want to know what you thought about Martina's surrogacy comments.

We Wine Whenever (44:04.832)
great.

Wendy (44:06.228)
I couldn't believe he asked it, right? So here she said, Julia said, Martina and I share a bed, we don't share a brain. She paused before she answered. She said, I completely believe in surrogacy and I don't agree with what she put out. And it was taken out of context. So yeah, there's no context that that is allowed. But she did say she doesn't agree with it and she does support it. And listen, she didn't say it. I'm just.

We Wine Whenever (44:34.024)
But that was the best thing Julia could have said.

Wendy (44:36.662)
Yep. And I'm glad that Andy asked the question. I'm so glad that he asked the question because like you said, he wouldn't have asked that question to other people. Right?

We Wine Whenever (44:39.187)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (44:44.06)
No way. No way. He would have glossed right over that.

Wendy (44:50.954)
Then he was doing, he's asking questions. So he asked Isaac, his least favorite housewife, past or present? He doesn't have one. Julia, who in the group has had the best work done? And she said Adriana. Isaac, how would you rate Lauren Sanchez's Vogue cover? He said he liked it. What is the one way in which Alexi is a better friend than Adriana?

We Wine Whenever (45:04.5)
Wendy (45:18.944)
was to Julia. She said, well, she wishes me well. Stupid. The next question was to Isaac. Who do you think is the most overrated designer of all time? He won't answer that.

We Wine Whenever (45:22.932)
That's very dumb.

We Wine Whenever (45:29.576)
my god, why are you there, Isaac?

Wendy (45:31.68)
I know. Julia, other than Gertie, who is Martina's least favorite woman in your friend group? Adriana, she said.

Back in the day, who is the one model you vowed you'd never work with again? He wouldn't answer it. I know. I know. So that's all I have for Watch What Happens Live with Julia and Isaac Mizrahi. But I thought it was good that Andy asked the questions. I really did. And like I said, Gertie the next day was on Teddy's podcast. And she said her truth.

We Wine Whenever (45:45.821)
my god, Isaac, you should never be on this show ever again. Ever again.

We Wine Whenever (46:02.004)
For sure. Yeah, I'm glad he did.

Wendy (46:09.786)
and she's standing by it. She's not backing down and and did you I don't know if you heard the podcast but Teddy started with I just got fresh information from Princess Cruise Lines about the cruise and it said that had Julia asked if Gertie could have come to the dinner they would have found a seat for her at the table with Captain Sandy.

We Wine Whenever (46:38.91)
I'm sure. I'm sure.

Wendy (46:39.32)
from the cruise line. And Gertie said, I'm vindicated. I knew it. I knew it. So that will all be out at the reunion, I'm sure.

We Wine Whenever (46:52.178)
Yeah. So what about the rumor that

did you say? That they're saying that Julia...

Wendy (47:02.318)
So there's a rumor out there that the whole reason Julia didn't want Gertie at the dinner is because perhaps she wanted to sleep with Captain Sandy.

We Wine Whenever (47:16.148)
This is a rumor, alleged.

Wendy (47:17.24)
just a rumor, this is alleged. And this was again two years ago, so I believe it was prior to Captain Sandy getting married.

We Wine Whenever (47:26.452)
could have been prior to her getting engaged, no?

Wendy (47:29.63)
Listen, two years ago is a very hard timeline for me to follow. It could have been. It could have been.

We Wine Whenever (47:33.778)
Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to think what season of Below Deck she did. The Asia was on with her. So it was the last season of Mad. Well, whatever, I'm not gonna try to do it now, I'm too tired. Yeah.

Wendy (47:38.804)
Yes.

I know. Like that's the thing. It was such a long time ago. I mean, this is 2025. think, I mean, I think we're talking about 2020. They filmed this in 2024. So I think we're talking about 2022 at this point. Right? I don't know, but it's a long time ago. It's a long freaking time ago. So that's all I have for Miami. So until next time, thank you for watching. Please give us five star reviews and subscribe. Bye.

We Wine Whenever (47:55.666)
Right, God, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (48:03.06)
Hmm.

We Wine Whenever (48:12.2)
Bye.