RHOM-Back in Action… and Already in Chaos

Wendy (00:01.469)
Welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.13)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:05.717)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Miami. We are on season seven, episode number one, MIA Back in Action. I can't believe it's seven already.

Kelli (00:15.022)
Mmm.

I can't believe it either. Because the original was on what, four seasons and then it got canceled.

Wendy (00:26.855)
Well, they called it put on hiatus, right? Yeah. And then it came back, think. Yeah. I think originally they were back on Peacock only. And they weren't really even on Bravo, but now they're back on Bravo.

Kelli (00:31.51)
And so they've been back for three.

Kelli (00:38.872)
They were. They were.

Kelli (00:46.22)
And who was complaining about that? Teddy and Tamara. Teddy and Tamara were saying that, I don't know, I forget what they were saying about it, but they said it was better when it was just on Peacock. I'll have to re-listen. I think it was them. Yeah.

Wendy (00:48.587)
Somebody was complaining about that? why?

Wendy (01:00.235)
Huh, interesting. That could be. So we start the episode out April of 2022, Alexis and Todd get married. They show a little clip of the wedding and then two years later, April of 2024, Todd files for divorce. And that was, guess, after we had already seen the season prior. So I guess it was, I don't know. Maybe we did see it in 2020.

Kelli (01:04.525)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:17.922)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:29.218)
Yeah, was in between last season and this season because at the end, remember last season, he didn't wanna film because of that whack video he put up apologizing to Anthony, Dr. Nicole's husband. And then he does wind up filming, not a lot though. And then the one time they all go to Alexia's apartment, supposedly,

Wendy (01:37.727)
Right.

Right.

Wendy (01:44.031)
Right.

Wendy (01:48.768)
Right.

Kelli (01:55.502)
Adriana said something to him about his marriage and he said, you said it or whatever, like at their marriage was on the rocks. But that was according to Adriana, so.

Wendy (02:01.716)
Yes.

Wendy (02:06.793)
Right. So after we see that, they actually, not Alexia, but everyone else is like, Adriana was right. And then we see Alexia is sobbing, talking to Marisol and Julia. And she starts giving us the timeline. I almost fell over when I heard this timeline. So Saturday,

April 6th is when it all went down. So the day before April 5th, they went out to dinner. They had an amazing time. He told her how much he loved her. They had sex. And then she came home on Saturday and he moved himself and his daughter out. And she found out at this point that the month before he'd gotten keys to another apartment and they'd been slowly moving things out over the month. And this actual day on April 6th,

He like packed up the suitcases right in front of Frankie and just left. I'm like, what kind of asshole is this?

Kelli (03:01.41)
right in front of Frankie.

Kelli (03:07.17)
Yeah, I mean to do that in front of her son who has special needs. And she comes home and Frankie says he left, he packed everything up, mommy left.

Wendy (03:11.86)
I just

Wendy (03:16.369)
Yeah, that just blew my mind. And she even goes on to say like, took everything, like even the shampoo out of the shower. Who takes the shampoo out of the shower?

Kelli (03:26.968)
I don't know, but what's interesting is, so there must be like a time lapse between what we're seeing now, her talking to Marisol and Julia, to when she goes to dinner with Marisol and Lisa.

Wendy (03:42.325)
Well, there is a little bit of it. I think I have that. I think I have that. So, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (03:47.862)
it's five months later. That's right. Yeah, five months later. Okay. Because I wonder why they took such a break in filming.

Wendy (03:56.181)
Well, I think they just picked up filming to pick that up because, right, it's a pick up at the fact that he left, right. So she said in the morning, like, he was like trying to get her out of the house. Like he knew in the morning that he was, obviously he knew, he knew for a month that he was doing this. He knew the night before when he took her out to dinner and he had sex with her that he was doing this. And then Julia says like, you know, like was he kind to Frankie and Peter?

Kelli (03:59.448)
to pick up the fact that he left. Okay.

Kelli (04:15.478)
Right.

Kelli (04:19.085)
Right.

Wendy (04:25.513)
And Alexia's like, no.

Kelli (04:29.526)
I mean, they flash back to that scene. mean, that one scene where, all right, so Peter obviously smokes weed and I guess he gave some to Frankie. Now, I don't know, know, Frankie's obviously an adult. He's an adult with special needs though. I mean, you know, did he want to? he, you know, we don't know the circumstances behind it, but listen, Frankie...

Wendy (04:31.797)
that one scene.

Kelli (05:00.138)
Maybe he enjoys doing that once in a while to just, you know, hang out with his brother and be goofy and have fun. You know, but Todd must be that type of person that's against it. There's a lot of people who don't agree with weed and it being legalized and all that nonsense, but that's what they flash back to, that scene.

Wendy (05:20.425)
Right, that scene. that was honestly, because I think that's the only scene we had really of anything negative. Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (05:24.98)
Yeah, I mean he does tell Peter he'd punch him in the face. But you know, Peter, I'm sure he's doing well now and I'm happy about that. He was a wise ass when he was younger. He was getting into a little bit of a trouble. I don't think he was a cakewalk, so.

Wendy (05:34.421)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (05:43.059)
No, no, he was not, he was not. But I honestly, I don't think it was Todd's place to say anything. I really don't.

Kelli (05:45.314)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:49.838)
Probably not, but if he's paying the bills and he's supporting them, I mean, I don't know. I don't know.

Wendy (05:55.719)
Is he though? Because is he though? Right? So then she says on Monday, she talked to him like nothing had happened. Like they, you know, they were talking, he didn't bring up anything. And Thursday, she gets a call from the attorney that he filed for divorce. I mean, that is insane.

Kelli (06:12.622)
It's what that crazy. Crazy.

Wendy (06:15.817)
That is insane, really. And then two days later, she's on the phone with Marisol. Then we see her on the phone talking to Teresa, how she was blindsided. I can't believe that, all the people she calls. I know, I know. It's so, but honestly, watching that whole thing, that...

Kelli (06:31.07)
you know how I feel about that.

Kelli (06:38.806)
Louis is like, what are you doing later tonight, Alexia? Maybe I'll fly down and take you out since you were the first housewife I was interested in anyway.

Wendy (06:46.749)
I'm like, you know what? I wonder if Teresa's gonna call Alexia when this crazy shit happens to her. Right? Yeah, so then you're right. Five months later, she meets up with Marisol and Lisa's coming to meet with them, but they wanted to talk real quick before she gets there because the headline had just come out that Lenny and his fiance broke up and they hope that she doesn't get back with him.

Kelli (06:54.008)
No shit. I think we'll be seeing that online too.

Wendy (07:14.601)
you know, Marisol says, you know, what's going on with Todd? And she's like, well, because Marisol found out that at this point she's seeing him again. And she's, I know she's like, well, I have to read about it in the press. And she's like, well, I was hesitant to tell anyone and you know, you were away and I didn't want to ruin your trip. And she's in love with him. After everything that he did to you, what, how do you have

Kelli (07:23.212)
and she didn't tell Marisol and they're close.

Wendy (07:44.243)
that low self-esteem and no self-respect to allow someone to treat you like that? I mean, am I missing something?

Kelli (07:53.022)
Or I mean, it could also be the comfort of a financial situation.

Wendy (08:00.177)
she has money from? I mean, Peter's father was-

Kelli (08:02.995)
She must have money from her husband who passed. What was his name?

Wendy (08:06.685)
Yes.

Kelli (08:09.356)
I can't remember his name.

Wendy (08:12.265)
I can't either, but it'll come to us. even from, right, he was loaded. Yes. I mean, maybe we'll call him by because obviously there was something going on with her too, right? But her, I mean, I don't know, was she married to Peter and Frankie's father? She was. yeah, so I mean, we know why he was in jail. We know, you know, there was money there. There's money in there.

Kelli (08:13.496)
But her second husband, I mean, he was loaded. Gay, but loaded.

Kelli (08:22.742)
Well, that's true. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah.

Kelli (08:29.548)
Yeah, she was. That was her first husband. Yeah.

Kelli (08:37.512)
yeah, but I mean, I don't think she's got any of that money. I mean, I don't think, you know, I'm sure that money got seized. You know, I don't think she rode off into the sunset with some big bag.

Wendy (08:45.003)
I don't know.

Wendy (08:49.483)
I don't think she did either, but I don't think she's hurting for money. I don't think she's hurting for money.

Kelli (08:53.728)
No, I think her second husband set her up well. Well, I mean, listen, set her up. She ran the magazine with him. They had that magazine, so yeah.

Wendy (08:57.246)
Yeah.

Wendy (09:01.076)
Right, right.

Wendy (09:06.718)
Then Lisa shows up and says, know, they ask her, you know, about Lenny and she said, yeah, Lenny's asking to get back together. And then when she said, they said, well, what about Jodie? And she's like, you know, I have kids to worry about. I'm thinking, but then she said in her confessional, like, I would rather be nude on like the cover of a magazine in the worst possible picture. I was like, oh, okay, at least she like has some common sense. Like,

Kelli (09:32.704)
Yeah, yeah. I did believe it at first though, was like,

only because we know they're not together. So it's like, my God, did she give him a second chance and he, know, dicked her over again. But thank God that she was kidding.

Wendy (09:46.795)
Yeah, I'm.

Wendy (09:50.761)
Yes, I was so glad to see that.

Kelli (09:53.334)
And Marisol saying what's right for the whole isn't always right for the soul, hysterical. That was a good line. She might want to put that on a cocktail glass.

Wendy (09:59.059)
Yeah. Yes. And it's true. It was a good line.

Yes, yes. On her little cockies. So then Alexia says that, know, Todd just thought that he could just get divorced and then like move on, but they both love each other so that can't happen. What? I mean, because they are divorced. Like the divorce went so quickly. It went so quickly.

Kelli (10:08.654)
On her cockies. Exactly.

Kelli (10:27.392)
I don't know about that. Yeah. Yeah. She must not have had a prenup either.

Wendy (10:38.091)
I mean, I don't know. I think she did. I think she did have a prenup. I think she did. Yes, you're right. was Herman. I think she did.

Kelli (10:39.586)
Right? We never heard anything about it. I feel like we would have heard something about it.

I hope so. Herman was her second husband. She must have had a prenup because she had the money from him.

Kelli (10:56.75)
And it seems like Todd was a successful businessman as well, so we think.

Wendy (11:01.291)
Well, I don't know that he was because do you remember last season, the whole apartment thing and they had to move out right away because he was like managing the building and then they're looking for another apartment. don't know. I really don't know. I think it's a lot of smoke and mirrors. I really do. I really do. I do.

Kelli (11:04.334)
I

Kelli (11:08.931)
Yes.

Kelli (11:15.586)
I know maybe he really is like a Louis.

You're probably right.

Kelli (11:24.546)
Yeah, I forgot about all that. Like I told you before we started, I don't think I finished the last season. No.

Wendy (11:26.847)
Yeah.

Wendy (11:30.857)
You probably didn't, you probably didn't. So Lisa announces that she's having a party for Jodie's birthday and we find out that her and Larsa are not really getting along because Marcus and Jodie, I guess they became friends when they were dating and he was out someplace and he was hanging out with Marcus.

Kelli (11:54.52)
Well, she and Jodie ran into Marcus. They went to dinner and they ran into him and Marcus was with Jodie's friends, is Lisa's story. But she didn't take a picture with him. She didn't, yeah, I believe it too.

Wendy (11:58.218)
Right.

Right. Right. I believe that. Right.

I mean, I believe that.

And I think personally, think Lisa in this situation, I don't think she did anything wrong. I don't really think she has anything to apologize for. I really don't.

Kelli (12:16.714)
I don't either.

I don't either and I don't understand why Alexia and Marisol are like coming at her for that and why are they comparing Larsa and Marcus's relationship that lasted a year and they broke up a million times in that year to Lisa and Lenny?

Wendy (12:36.339)
I know.

Kelli (12:38.176)
I mean, there's no comparison!

Wendy (12:40.565)
There's no comparison. There's no comparison. No.

Kelli (12:43.852)
Yeah, mean, you know, they broke up so many times, those two. And I don't know. And why are Alexia and Marisol so invested in this?

Wendy (12:49.589)
Yeah.

Wendy (12:53.301)
I don't

Wendy (12:59.339)
I don't know. It doesn't make sense to me.

It doesn't make sense to me.

Kelli (13:07.395)
Me neither.

Wendy (13:09.723)
So then we see Julia and Martina are talking about, know, they have these two baby boys now and it came all of a sudden. Julia was in Moscow when she got the call. Martina was in Prague when they found out that they were adopting these two brothers. One is three and the other one is a year and a half old. And yes, they are actual brothers. Yeah, they're, yeah, they're actual brothers.

Kelli (13:29.892)
they are actual brothers? Okay, I missed that part. Cute.

Wendy (13:37.599)
And Martina's like, well, how did the girls take the news? And she's like, well, she was telling her that she had six women that joined the Zoom. And she said she could see everyone was on there, but Gertie dropped off. Listen, I think that whole thing that she's mad at Gertie for that situation is bullshit too. Gertie did nothing wrong. She did nothing wrong.

Kelli (13:55.8)
Totally agree. Gertie did nothing wrong. She tried to get back in. She couldn't get back in. She asked for another link. She couldn't get the link. And then we find out on Watch What Happens Live or the after show, whatever. No, there was no after show. So it must have been on Watch What Happens Live. She was in between appointments. The woman is going through breast cancer treatment that your wife just went through. If you're gonna have a problem with her because she dropped a Zoom call,

Wendy (14:10.186)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:15.531)
One more time.

Kelli (14:23.97)
Listen, this is your news, good for you. I don't like it when people expect people, people have very high expectations of how people should react to their own news. It's your news. So if your expectations aren't met, that's a you problem, not a them problem.

Wendy (14:37.683)
Right. Right.

Wendy (14:42.837)
And honestly, it was, this is what I thought was odd. One, she excused Kiki because her daughter dropped the phone in the toilet. Okay. She said her hands were full. She couldn't really text her because I guess she was dealing with the babies at the time. But what I don't understand is the conversation that she was so upset was the text message that said, congratulations. She didn't think, it wasn't a conversation, it was a text. She was upset about a text message.

that she didn't think had the right tone.

Kelli (15:15.81)
Well, here's the thing. Her congratulations was a response to you basically telling her that she missed the call and now she has to wait to find out on TMZ what your big news was. So you're lucky you didn't get a fuck you. I think a congratulations is a pretty nice response to that bullshit text that you sent her. Right?

Wendy (15:25.789)
Right. Right.

Right. Yeah.

Wendy (15:36.363)
I do too. I do also. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you. So I don't know if you saw it. So Julia put out a statement today on her Instagram. Did you see it? Because I guess she got a lot of flack over. Here it is. Let me just blow it up. So my beautiful souls, this season you've seen a different side of me. One, I even...

Kelli (15:46.957)
I did see that. Yeah.

Wendy (16:06.173)
struggle to fully explain. The truth is just before we began filming, something life-changing happened. I was given the chance to welcome two incredible boys into my life. It was sudden, emotional, and felt deeply destined. But here's the part no one saw. The adoptions weren't finalized, not yet. I was living in an emotional in-between, loving these boys fiercely while navigating legal uncertainty and keeping so much of it quiet.

It was overwhelming, beautiful, yes, but also fragile, scared and stressful beyond words, which is why I was so cautious about sharing anything about them in writing. That's why you couldn't text her? So when moments came up like sending the strange message you all saw, I didn't always show up as my most present or thoughtful self. And when it came to Gertie, the truth is,

Kelli (16:47.948)
Right. It's all BS.

Wendy (17:03.719)
At the time, we weren't in the close.

heart connected place we had once been our friendship has shifted a bit not in anger not in conflict just life pulling us in different directions. So when she reached out I was so wrapped up in protecting my own emotional chaos I fumbled I never meant to come off cold care less or bizarre. I was simply in a storm of my own this has been a season of growth.

Messiness and deep. She used such a horrible font. It's not that I can't read. It's just a very hard font to read. I have to make it bigger. It's a horrible font. Has been a stressful growth, messiness and deep transformation. Thank you for giving me the space to walk through it imperfectly, but with a full and open heart. With love, always Julia. I hope that this was a conversation with Gertie.

Kelli (17:39.074)
I know, I know. You have to like open it up, like zoom in. Yeah.

Wendy (18:00.201)
before she put this on Instagram. That's all I have to say about that because...

Kelli (18:03.33)
You know what I think this is screaming? Jackie Goldschneider. I think that Julia went into this season BFFs with Alexia and Marisol and was feeling herself because she felt like she was in the cool kid club. So she shit on Gertie. She apparently was shitting on Adriana. We're going to see that play out. And it's screaming Jackie Goldschneider. I think we're going to see Julia back stepping out of this season like we saw Jackie.

Wendy (18:15.916)
Mm. That could be.

Yeah.

I mean that's

Wendy (18:32.113)
Yeah. I mean, how funny would that be? I just, listen, I mean, I don't know. I'm going to give her a little bit of grace. I'm going to see where the season goes. going to see. I'll wait and see what happens. You know, we'll see.

Kelli (18:32.299)
stepping out of rails.

Kelli (18:37.048)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:49.486)
The funniest part was when Martina was like, when she told her about Gertie, like, well, what are you gonna do about that? I'm sorry, Martina. Are you enjoying this a little bit too much?

Wendy (18:55.668)
Right.

Wendy (18:59.819)
I know. And then when Gertie's sitting next to Martina trying to talk to her about it, she's like, you got to talk to Julia about that.

Kelli (19:06.699)
Yeah, I mean she's got no poker face by the way Martina like way to show your cards Holy cow

Wendy (19:12.163)
Yeah, no, you're right. You're right. So then after that whole scene, then we see that we see Lisa in her rental. She has a 6,000 square foot rental for 32,000. And it feels cozy. It feels cozy. What? Are you out of your damn mind?

Kelli (19:24.462)
Poor thing.

Kelli (19:33.752)
I could go days without seeing my family if I lived under 6,000 foot anything.

Wendy (19:38.197)
Six-bedroom apartment. Unbelievable.

Kelli (19:41.218)
for all four of them.

Wendy (19:44.735)
Well, he has a daughter. He has a daughter, so I think she comes over too. But still. But still. Yes. I mean, it's crazy, right? It's crazy.

Kelli (19:45.23)
That's ridiculous.

okay. All right, so they need three bedrooms.

Kelli (19:56.174)
I mean, listen, if Lenny's putting that bill, God bless her. But I think Jodi's contributing, right? They said that? Not that it's any of our business, but.

Wendy (20:02.443)
Yeah, they live together. So I would imagine that he is. Lisa says she has the kids 50 % of the time and that that's kind of the biggest adjustment for her. But she's also kind of enjoying it. You know, having some time to herself, be able to spend with Jodi alone. And she wants to make sure the party is his friends and not all, I think he wants to make sure that too, that it's not all her friends.

Kelli (20:07.16)
Yeah.

Kelli (20:15.295)
god.

Kelli (20:32.929)
Yeah.

Wendy (20:34.411)
Then we see Laura, no I don't blame her either, we see Laura's just talking to her mom. I don't think we've met her mom before, have we? I don't remember. I liked her mom.

Kelli (20:36.322)
I don't blame her.

Kelli (20:44.172)
I don't think so, no.

I do too. Her mom told her to get off the ride with Marcus. Is that what she said? Get off the ride? I like that.

Wendy (20:52.713)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Her mom came to visit her. She usually comes to visit for about two months. She lives in Chicago. And she's just giving her good motherly advice, like just be done with this whole Marcus situation.

Kelli (21:12.246)
I thought it was interesting when Lars was like, I don't want to address it. I don't want to have to address it. You put your relationship out there every step of the way to the point where this guy, nobody knew who he was. never, listen, I'm an NBA, I'm a big basketball fan. I didn't know Michael Jordan had a son named Marcus until he started dating Larsa Pippen.

Wendy (21:30.414)
no, every-

Wendy (21:35.027)
Okay, I think everyone knew though. I think that was like common knowledge. I mean, especially since she's an she's an MBA wife, like, I mean,

Kelli (21:38.772)
well, there you go. That's just.

That's what I'm saying. When that came out, I was like, damn, you know? Nobody knew who Marcus Jordan was, and then all of a sudden he's on Traders. Like, come on. You put every step of your relationship out there, but now you don't wanna address it because you broke up? You have to.

Wendy (21:55.092)
Well, all right.

Wendy (22:01.545)
Yeah. I think at this point, I think that the, it definitely had at this point, after the breakup, the pictures had come out with him, you know, doing the coke, which, yeah, this is horrible. Just horrible. And I think she wanted, I mean, even, to think that her kids are seeing this, like, come on.

Kelli (22:13.933)
Yeah.

Kelli (22:17.602)
Yeah

Kelli (22:24.044)
I know because then there will be speculation that she did, which I don't think she did. I don't think she's that stupid. mean, I don't know though. Like, I mean, I don't think she did. I'm just saying, I think that in Miami,

Wendy (22:29.451)
I don't think she did either.

Kelli (22:40.078)
cocaine is looked at a little bit differently than it is in New Jersey.

Kelli (22:46.764)
I don't, know, we know that any party we go to, we're not gonna see that. I would imagine that in Miami, that's a different case. I don't wanna generalize. I'm just getting that feeling.

Wendy (22:58.645)
That may be true.

Yeah, I,

Mm-hmm. But listen, you know, speaking of cocaine, like I honestly had no idea Jax was doing cocaine and apparently like everyone knew, everybody knew. And so maybe there are certain areas where it is very common. So maybe in LA it's common, maybe in Miami it's common, maybe in New York City it's very common, maybe in Dallas, I don't know, I'm just picking big cities, maybe in Chicago, like maybe in these big cities.

Kelli (23:17.368)
Yeah.

Kelli (23:32.174)
Right. Right.

Wendy (23:35.275)
that this is more common than here in Brick. So, and again, we're not going to any parties where there's celebrities or the kind of money and wealth that these, that are happening in these places. We find out Lisa's father had a stroke and he's not doing well.

Kelli (23:40.462)
Brick, New Jersey. Brick, Tucky.

Kelli (23:51.978)
No.

Kelli (23:57.453)
Right.

Wendy (24:03.691)
She just missed a call from her brother. He's on a ventilator. They were trying to take him off the ventilator, but that wasn't working. And she had...

Kelli (24:13.452)
and she just reconnected with him prior to that.

Wendy (24:16.093)
Yes, he just met her daughter for the first time. We didn't know this about Lisa. We didn't know that their relationship was strained like that.

Kelli (24:28.684)
We didn't know much about Lisa's parents at all. We only knew about Lenny's mother, really. I don't even know if Lenny's father was ever on the show, but his mother sure was. She flipped on Lisa at the drop of a hat as soon as Lenny dangled some flow in front of her face.

Wendy (24:34.313)
Right.

Wendy (24:38.132)
Right.

Wendy (24:42.027)
She's short.

Wendy (24:46.045)
She sure did. You know, I was listening to Lisa on Heather McDonald. Did you hear that one?

Kelli (24:51.606)
No, that sounds like a good one though. And she was on Teddy and Tamar, I didn't listen to that either.

Wendy (24:56.423)
Yeah, I listened to both of them. So she was on Heather McDonald. So she has a new app that she came out with. It's called Splitwell for divorce. And it sounds like a fabulous thing. She wish she had it. helps you find an attorney. helps you, like you upload all your documents into it. like has AI like to interpret them for you, like in plain language. It prevents you from like

Kelli (25:09.55)
Wendy (25:26.763)
that you have to get a lawyer that makes you communicate better with the person you're divorcing so that it doesn't cut off. Yeah, it really does. And she spends a lot of time, and I think Jodi's a partner with her on it. it's like she, everything she said about it, sounds like she is 100 % involved in this. It's not just she's throwing her name on it, she really worked on this app. But she was talking about...

Kelli (25:35.512)
This sounds like a great app.

Kelli (25:50.35)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:55.467)
Lenny's mom because Heather asked her and she hasn't spoken to her since that day Yeah

Kelli (26:01.57)
How awful, that woman completely, how can the grandmother turn on the mother of her grandchildren like that? You know what kind of wife she was, you know what kind of mother she was, that was disgusting. But her son must have threatened her and said, I'll cut you off.

Wendy (26:08.083)
Right.

Wendy (26:11.421)
Well, she said she-

Wendy (26:22.111)
Yep, that's, yeah. And I mean, Lisa alluded to that and she said that, you know, it's very strange because her kids see grandma all the time. Because Lenny has a kid 50 % of the time and it's their grandmother.

Kelli (26:33.729)
He's a horrible, horrible man.

Wendy (26:35.817)
He really is. He really is. I feel like he will get his one day. He will get his. So then we see Gertie's meeting up with Kiki on that yacht. We find out that, you know, she really, Gertie had a tough year with the cancer. She went through six surgeries, four rounds of chemo and 20 rounds of radiation. That's a lot. So Teddy was talking about this in Tamra too.

Kelli (26:40.344)
He will. Yep.

Kelli (26:56.684)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:00.749)
Yeah.

Wendy (27:06.075)
And it was good to hear Teddi's point of view. She's like, yeah, like that's a lot. Like it's...

It's a lot. She gained 30 pounds. I didn't understand this, but she was talking about she had to have a breast reduction and she had to have liposuction because one of her breasts is messed up. Something to do with, I guess, scar tissue or something from, I don't know, the surgery, I guess maybe when they... Right, right.

Kelli (27:34.254)
Probably how they had to cut her, yeah.

Wendy (27:39.637)
She said she is cancer free now, but she feels like, you know, she's still going through it. I can't even imagine. I mean, this has been two years, right? At this point, it's been two years. And that's a lot. That's a lot on your body. That's a lot on your body. She's got two children. I mean, her husband's amazing, but you know, it's a lot when your husband and your lover and your best friend becomes your caretaker. You know, that's a lot.

Kelli (27:52.908)
It is a lot.

Kelli (28:05.72)
Well, yeah, that's she's afraid of. She's afraid he's gonna start looking at her differently. Because listen, we know as moms and as wives, you know, it's gonna come to no surprise to our husbands, but we do everything, basically. We have great husbands, but just our roles and our family dynamic is we do pretty much everything. I mean, you know, so for this to happen to her,

Wendy (28:18.633)
Yeah.

Wendy (28:29.61)
Yeah.

Kelli (28:35.256)
plus work for this to happen to her and then like that everything comes to a crashing hole and he's got to step up and start doing stuff. So I don't, he seems like an amazing guy. It doesn't seem like this would ever bother him. It seems like he's definitely up for the task. Is he a cop? Firefighter. So listen, but I understand how she feels because you know, that was her role. Like she,

Wendy (28:48.831)
He does. No.

Firefighter.

Kelli (29:04.374)
she held shit down and now she can't. But it doesn't, know, but I, so I understand her feeling like he might start looking at me a different way, but I don't think he would, because he doesn't seem like that type of guy.

Wendy (29:04.49)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (29:07.979)
Yeah.

Wendy (29:17.119)
I don't think he would either, but I definitely understand her. you know, when you're used to being this independent person and doing everything, you don't want to have to rely on other people. You don't want to.

Kelli (29:30.787)
How often do you ask anybody for help?

Wendy (29:34.475)
Never, never, never. Right, right. And you know what, that is, right. it's like, and Tati was saying the same thing. know, she, like she totally can relate to that. You know, she's, you know, although, you know, her soon to be ex is, you know, living, they're living together and they're both dating.

Kelli (29:36.546)
Me neither. That's just not us. We just don't ask for help.

So it's gotta be difficult.

Wendy (30:01.831)
and he's there to support her 100%, but she's had to call him.

Kelli (30:04.782)
That's gotta be so odd, doesn't it? Like Edwin is in that role where he's, I mean, I don't know if he's her caretaker. I'm sure she has nurses and stuff like that, but when they're all alone and she needs something, if she needs something, it's on him. But meanwhile, they're separated dating other people. That has to be a wild situation.

Wendy (30:07.883)
I would think it would be odd.

Wendy (30:23.285)
Mm-hmm.

Right? And they're okay with it. But they're both okay with it, which just blows my mind. Like it blows my mind that they are so... It's so healthy for her to be in and it's so good for her kids to see this. you know, it really is. I mean, she's in the fight of her life and he seems, I don't know, I don't really know him that well. But since the whole...

Kelli (30:30.424)
Yeah, yeah. Which thank God.

Kelli (30:39.648)
Yes.

Wendy (30:51.899)
thing came out where she was like dating that guy and then they you know announced the separation. I started following him and you know I see him with the kids a lot and he takes them to church and he seems very spiritual he seems very grounded. Even listening to him on the podcast you know he's not on it as much as he was before but even when he's on the podcast he seems like a very down-to-earth grounded person you know and I think that's

Kelli (31:06.818)
That's good.

Kelli (31:18.882)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (31:21.676)
I mean, it's fortunate for Teddy that she has somebody like that, you know?

Kelli (31:25.858)
Yeah, that's what I mean. Like that's really, I mean, it's like a Dolores and Frank, although neither of them are sick, but they're setting very good examples for their children of how a separated, soon to be divorced couple should behave.

Wendy (31:32.277)
Right.

Wendy (31:38.729)
Yes, yes, yes they are, they are. Kiki talks about this, that she's a member of this Miami Beach yacht club and that she used to date the owner, I know, and she can use the yacht whenever she wants. I'm like, why did she stop dating the owner?

Kelli (31:48.91)
That's why I started laughing.

Kelli (31:57.39)
she found out he had a girlfriend. wait, no, was that the guy or was that the guy she was seeing at the reunion? Yes, I'm sorry. Yeah, the yacht club guy, just broke up and then she started seeing somebody else and then she found out he had a girlfriend. I'm telling you, these guys, if I were a housewife, I would be so leery because this guy probably just wanted to date her. mean, listen, she's drop dead gorgeous, but.

Wendy (32:00.549)
yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wendy (32:07.423)
That was the guy at the reunion.

Right.

Wendy (32:15.765)
Yeah.

Kelli (32:26.284)
He probably was like, she's a housewife of Miami, you know, but meanwhile he had a girlfriend. I wouldn't trust anybody if I was these women.

Wendy (32:33.747)
I know, I know. Then we find out Adriana is seeing someone for six months and he's a tall guy and she likes her man like her coffee, French roast tall, dark and delicious. Okay. Okay, Adriana.

Kelli (32:47.022)
That guy was pretty delicious.

Wendy (32:53.463)
I don't I don't know. don't know. Then Larsa and Alexia meet up and Larsa says, know, we're both single again. Alexia is like, no, I'm not. I'm not single. I was like, my God, Alexia.

Kelli (33:07.982)
Because she says that her heart is still in love with him and they don't even talk about the divorce. So he divorced you, he moved out in front of your son and you're sleeping with him, obviously. And you don't even talk about the fact that he just divorced you.

Wendy (33:08.563)
My heart is not ready.

Wendy (33:15.529)
Right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (33:25.375)
Right. Yep.

Kelli (33:28.236)
I mean, do you think this is all real? Because you know me, I think everything's for the show. You think this is real? We are two ends of the spectrum on these issues.

Wendy (33:32.491)
And you know me, think everything is real. mean, I think that these, I do, think everything is We really are, we really are. You're thinking everything's for the show and I think everything's real. It's so true. It really is true. I think it's real. I just think that this...

Kelli (33:46.254)
think everybody is full of shit and Wendy thinks everybody's telling the truth.

Wendy (33:57.715)
I think she's stupid. Like how can you, like I said, I think this woman has no self-respect and she is just selling herself short and putting up with this bullshit from this man.

Kelli (34:08.184)
I know, I don't get it.

Wendy (34:10.057)
I don't get it either. I don't get it either.

Kelli (34:11.746)
I mean, she's beautiful.

Wendy (34:14.865)
She's obviously very shallow. mean, you know, there's more to life than beauty. I don't know. I just don't get it. I don't get it. And she even asked like...

Kelli (34:17.111)
Yeah, well.

Kelli (34:25.218)
Yeah, Adriana says that she wishes Alexia had the strength to get over Todd, right? Did Adriana basically say that? Like, she had the strength to move on.

Wendy (34:30.515)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (34:36.235)
Yeah. And she, and Alexia says to, uh, Larsa, like, how did you end it? Like, how did you move on? I'm like, well, I mean, did you see what happened with Marcus? mean, how could she not end it? Like, how, how could she not move on?

Kelli (34:49.132)
Right, right. And you block, like block them. You block them.

Wendy (34:56.347)
Right, right, that's exactly it. You just block them and you move on. So, Adrian is a new man. I don't know how to pronounce his name. Amore? Amore?

Kelli (35:10.434)
Yes, I believe that is it.

Wendy (35:12.075)
He is more key. I don't know what that means.

Kelli (35:16.14)
French royalty.

Wendy (35:17.843)
Okay, yes, he comes from aristocracy. So what does that mean? Is that like a prince or something? Marquis? I don't know. I have no idea. He's 6'4 though, which is nice. I did not bother to Google to see if they are still together. All right, we'll have to wait and we'll see. We'll let you know next episode. Or you can do it now. Okay.

Kelli (35:23.884)
I guess.

Kelli (35:28.77)
Yeah, that's a tall drink of water right there.

Kelli (35:35.056)
I didn't either.

Kelli (35:41.486)
I'm gonna look it up right now.

Wendy (35:49.641)
So while you're looking it up, Martina and Julia arrive at the party and they meet Adriana's new boyfriend. Julia admits that her and Adriana are not very close anymore and Adriana thinks it's because Julia is getting very close with Alexia and Marisol. I don't know. I don't know if that's the case. I mean...

Kelli (36:10.286)
I can't find it because it just keeps bringing up Frederick, her ex-husband. They're saying Adriana and Julia had a falling out because she's close to it. I believe it. Yeah, because Marisol is terrible to Adriana. I'm not a big Marisol fan. I do think her one-liners are funny. I'm just not a huge fan.

Wendy (36:15.349)
Yeah.

Wendy (36:20.819)
Alexia.

Wendy (36:24.906)
You do?

Kelli (36:37.292)
And I love the fact that they will not make her a full-time housewife and she's just a friend of, even though she's at the reunion and she gets just as much air time as everybody else. But the fact that they won't just call her a housewife and she's a friend of, I think is hysterical. But she's terrible to Adriana.

Wendy (36:52.842)
Mm.

Wendy (36:57.557)
She is, I mean she can't stand her, she is.

Kelli (37:00.204)
Yeah, mean, Alexia's not so bad, but they clearly don't get along, and now Julia's their BFF? Come on.

Wendy (37:06.955)
But is Julie other BFF though? I mean...

Kelli (37:09.399)
She was sitting there consoling Alexia. I mean, that's what I keep seeing online. Like the alignments have shifted, kind of like Jersey.

Wendy (37:19.051)
I just feel like if that's the reason that they're not close, I don't like when people tell you who you could be friends with. I just don't. I just don't. know, their friendship can be separate. You don't have to agree with what Marisol does. And you could tell Marisol you don't agree with what she does.

Kelli (37:40.096)
Yeah, and especially because Adriana is a friend of also. Julia is a full-time housewife, so she has to find her place. Because Adriana could be gone next season. I mean, any one of them could be, but she's just a friend of. She, you know, lifts out easily.

Wendy (37:45.579)
Right.

Wendy (37:54.283)
Right.

Wendy (38:01.311)
You know, that's the thing about Miami, there's a lot of friend of, because Kiki's a friend of too.

Kelli (38:05.166)
Kiki? Why don't they make her a full-time housewife? The only thing I was thinking though was that maybe Kiki is not a full-time housewife because maybe whatever custody situation she has with her ex with her daughter, maybe he won't allow her daughter to film and that, you know, she would have to bring her daughter on the show. We need to see something. I was thinking that. Because why don't they just make her a full-time housewife?

Wendy (38:27.337)
Well, I don't know because Kiki said she had said that her son was off to college and she moved to a new apartment. So I don't think her children.

Kelli (38:37.986)
But she has a daughter because the daughter's the one who dropped the phone in the toilet, right?

Wendy (38:41.875)
Yeah, but how will... yeah, that's right. I guess the daughter must be young.

Kelli (38:44.919)
Yeah.

She must be younger. Maybe there's certain things she can't share as a full-time housewife and that's why she's not. Because everybody loves her. You can't not love Kiki, she's hysterical. She's like, why does everybody think I need to be having sex with this man to use his ya?

Wendy (38:48.957)
Yeah.

Wendy (38:56.499)
Yes. No, I agree. I love Kiki. I totally agree.

Wendy (39:03.531)
Exactly. I did think that the outfit that Gertie showed up in was horrible.

Kelli (39:07.022)
Ha

That's so-

Kelli (39:14.638)
Terrible It I mean It had that who's that woman Dorothy dandruff It had definitely had a vibe to it. I think it was the red wig I think she needed a darker wig and then it maybe it it didn't land

Wendy (39:16.075)
the red lace, mean the hat.

Wendy (39:23.847)
Yeah, Dorothy Dandridge. Yeah.

Wendy (39:35.217)
It was screaming, Frederick's of Hollywood to me.

Kelli (39:37.504)
Yes, and I'm no fashionista, but yes, it was screaming Fredericks in Hollywood, which is no longer at Ocean County Mall if anyone was interested. You cannot find that at Ocean County Mall anymore. I don't know, but Ocean County Mall's becoming more family friendly, so.

Wendy (39:40.647)
Yeah. I don't think is it. Is it an animal? I think it's probably online only if it's even online.

Yes. So she shows up in that hideous cat suit and she feels awkward with Martina and Julia. They are doing these bone marrow shots. I've never heard of those. Have you? Did you see that?

Kelli (40:03.36)
You

Kelli (40:13.814)
Yeah, no, I haven't. Is that what they were doing?

Wendy (40:16.435)
Yes, bone marrow shots. Listen, I was gonna say, think it's... don't, yes. I mean, I don't know if they mix that with alcohol too. I don't know, but bone marrow is supposed to be very good for you. I don't know, we gotta investigate that.

Kelli (40:18.764)
I mean, I know it's supposed to be healthy for you, but I mean, is that what you're serving at a party?

Kelli (40:29.43)
I hope so.

Kelli (40:34.582)
Mm-hmm. I still, I, yeah. You better mix it with alcohol.

Wendy (40:41.579)
So then we see Larsa and Lisa arguing about the fight over text. Lisa is drunk. So Larsa says, you know, we're gonna talk about it. You're not gonna talk about it now. Lisa does an outfit change in the middle of her party. It was Jodie's party. Why is she doing the outfit change? It was Jodie's party.

Kelli (41:05.006)
because she's Lisa. But you know, it was interesting when Larsa said, cause I didn't know this, like made a, did she say she went on the stand?

Wendy (41:14.761)
Yeah, she testified for her. Yes, she did say that.

Kelli (41:19.168)
And I would imagine that that means that Larsa, listen, you could say what you want about Larsa. She has always had Lisa's back.

Wendy (41:26.677)
She said, testified under oath for Lisa and she doesn't feel like she has her back.

Kelli (41:31.148)
Yeah, and Larsa has always said, I think that that is the thing with Larsa, like love her or hate her, but if you're her friend, she rides hard. And she must've seen some shit. If she had to testify for Lisa, she must've seen some shit go down. Because I would imagine Lenny is a nasty guy when he wants to be. Yeah.

Wendy (41:41.151)
Yeah.

Wendy (41:46.933)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (41:55.109)
I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure.

Kelli (41:59.212)
I don't think Larissa should have been questioning Jodie at his own birthday party though.

Wendy (42:03.467)
No, no, it was an it was awkward. That was an awkward conversation. And I even wrote that down. I was like, this is kind of an awkward conversation. Like what is going on?

Kelli (42:06.584)
It was so awkward.

Kelli (42:11.318)
He's like, I just want to go hit some AC in my bedroom, man.

Wendy (42:14.747)
No, well, he didn't say hit some AC. my God. Did you see? Did you see the backlash about that? I had a watch. I hadn't even.

Kelli (42:17.218)
I know I'm only kidding.

Yeah, but I really think they were talking about air conditioning, don't you? Are we like naive? I think they really were talking about air condition- It's fucking Miami. It's like the... Yeah.

Wendy (42:24.959)
They were, they 100 % were. No.

Yeah, I mean, Lisa put out her statement. I think they were. And if you look at Jodi, like you definitely go, don't get that vibe with Jodi.

Kelli (42:39.532)
I mean, you don't, but I don't think I got that vibe from Marcus Jordan either.

Wendy (42:44.989)
I don't know, but to put that out there, this man has a reputation.

Kelli (42:48.342)
And listen, it's not a great look. It's not a great look that now we're seeing that they've really had a friendship and they were close and there's pictures of Marcus actually doing it. I still don't think they were doing that in their bedroom though.

Wendy (43:02.003)
I don't either and I don't think that they would have said it like that on camera. And I do think that, you know, a bunch of his friends did not want to be on camera, which I can totally, I can totally understand.

Kelli (43:11.232)
Right.

And it's so, like, if you listen to what they say, he's like, the AC is good. He's like, yeah, I know, right? You're not gonna say that about cocaine. Like, you're not gonna be like, that cocaine was real. Like, cocaine's cocaine. You know, you do it, you get a feeling, and that's it. It's not like, you know, it's not like getting your hair done and you're like, this really looks great, right? Like, I don't know, am I reading this wrong?

Wendy (43:21.736)
No.

Wendy (43:26.186)
Right.

Wendy (43:38.705)
No, I think that was totally blown out of proportion. think Lisa made her statement. I think, you know.

Kelli (43:44.78)
Maybe it was Lenny who did this. Maybe it was Lenny who twisted it. Are they still going through their divorce?

Wendy (43:49.095)
Listen, it's, no, it's final. The divorce is final. It was final November of 24. Jodie just kind of leaves it as, I'm sure you guys are gonna work it out. So he's not gonna have the conversation. But then we, like we see Adriana and her boyfriend are like making out on the, I mean, that was disgusting in the middle of the party.

Kelli (43:53.195)
Okay.

Okay, good.

Kelli (44:14.606)
That was extremely cringy.

Wendy (44:16.713)
Really? Like, I mean, get a room. You are grown. You are a grown woman in the middle of a party.

Kelli (44:25.07)
Well, it leads you to believe that it's like a fake relationship. Like, a... Exactly. Exactly.

Wendy (44:29.033)
It's performative. It's very performative. Yeah, yeah, it, and yeah, sorry. I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it.

Kelli (44:37.708)
I'm not buying it either.

She is a phony baloney Adriana.

Wendy (44:43.371)
She sure is. She really is!

Kelli (44:45.016)
So maybe that's why Alexia and Marisol have such a problem with her.

Wendy (44:49.546)
Yeah.

Wendy (44:53.235)
I don't know. I don't know. Then we see Gertie trying to talk to Martina. She's like, you you guys work it out. Jodie and his friends are going to have some AC. I did think it was funny though when Lisa kept telling Larsa to leave, there's the door you need to leave. And Larsa was not leaving. She kept coming back.

Kelli (45:17.864)
I said the same- I wrote the same thing down.

She keeps saying, get out, get out, get out. I said she needs to leave, why won't she just leave? And you're calling someone a stupid bitch? I'd ask you to leave my house too. I might clock you first.

Wendy (45:23.115)
This is so funny!

Wendy (45:32.265)
Yeah, you need to leave.

Wendy (45:38.079)
Yep. Well, she, yeah. And she said to her, she told her that her, had a fake, it was a fake breakup. Your fake breakup, you and Marcus was, you know, you already broke up four times. Like, I was like, what?

Kelli (45:51.64)
She said, stayed and I guess it was last season.

Wendy (45:56.829)
Yeah, yeah. So then Marisol tells Lisa she's had too much to drink, which she did. Lisa did have too much to drink. Lars is crying in the bathroom with Kiki and Lisa says, I don't want you crying. You called me a bitch. And then she tells her to get out again. She tells her to leave again. She doesn't leave.

Kelli (45:58.316)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (46:24.482)
and she doesn't leave.

Wendy (46:26.347)
Ha

Kelli (46:29.682)
when Larsa said I didn't want it to be about me. Yes you did! You walked into Jodie's birthday party and started harassing him about it. Yes you did want it to be about you, and that's fine. Because otherwise it probably would have been a pretty boring party. Or boring scene for us to watch.

Wendy (46:37.491)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (46:44.969)
Yeah.

Wendy (46:48.351)
Yeah, I mean, and that's kind of where it ended, right? Like, I don't have anything after that.

Kelli (46:52.162)
Yeah, and then the AC thing, you know? But, I mean, he said the AC is so good, and he's like, yeah, I know, right? Like, to me, there was no undertone there. I didn't think at all.

Wendy (46:54.579)
Right. Yeah.

Wendy (47:03.232)
Yep.

Wendy (47:11.189)
I didn't either, I did not either.

Kelli (47:13.848)
Like you're in Miami for crying out loud, it's 100 degrees.

Wendy (47:17.983)
Right. And it was just fans that made this conclusion online, right? It wasn't anyone in the cast. And you're right, could have been Lenny that started it. I mean, I wouldn't put it past him. I really wouldn't.

Kelli (47:24.664)
Probably. Probably, yeah.

It could have been Lenny.

Kelli (47:32.906)
I wouldn't either, I think he's a terrible person. And he's probably pissed off, he's probably paying her a lot of money. All the way we talked about it, it wasn't a lot of money considering how much he earns and his big fucking house on Star Island. He wasn't giving her a ton of money.

Wendy (47:35.851)
Yeah, I'm not a fan.

Wendy (47:41.93)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (47:50.815)
I know, but it was enough though. And it's enough. It's enough.

Kelli (47:54.806)
Yeah. I mean, as long as it keeps her in her cozy 6,000 foot condo, she'll be alright.

Wendy (48:01.071)
And she's got this new business, so she's gonna be fine. She's gonna be fine.

Kelli (48:05.888)
Yeah, good for her. That's what she needs to focus on. Something, you know, to be self-sufficient.

Wendy (48:12.563)
Yes, exactly.

Kelli (48:15.138)
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I'm drinking tonight.

Wendy (48:44.937)
We have to let them know our kids are graduating high school tomorrow. Like this is something to celebrate. We are celebrating.

Kelli (48:51.348)
Our youngest sons, our youngest in general, are graduating high school tomorrow and both very nice young men, both equally as difficult in different ways.

Wendy (48:54.611)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (49:07.999)
Yes. But we're here.

Kelli (49:09.74)
We have both been on a journey for the past four years where we didn't know if tomorrow would come. They go to different schools.

Wendy (49:19.541)
We're at the finish line.

Kelli (49:19.682)
but thank you Jesus, we are at the finish line. And of course it's gonna fucking rain, so we don't know when or where these graduations are. Well Wendy's, you know where you're, yeah, you're fine. we don't, Joe's is up in the air. But I don't care, because either way he's getting a diploma, and I haven't heard otherwise, and it's tomorrow, and thank you Jesus. So we're drinking tonight, we'll be drinking tomorrow night. Yeah.

Wendy (49:27.561)
Mine's inside, mine's inside. I'm fine.

Wendy (49:34.443)
you

Wendy (49:42.187)
There you go. Amen. Tomorrow night, yes, we will. We will. That's okay that we're celebrating as we should. As we should. We did it. We did it. We did it. I will be honest you. Matt said to me today, he goes, are you going to cry? I said, no, I'm not going to cry. He goes, I might cry. said, well, you can cry. I said, you put in the work. He goes, no, I had to give you credit too, mom.

Kelli (49:50.178)
Whew, as we should.

Yeah, we did it. We need t-shirts made up. We did it.

Wendy (50:11.403)
I was like, it was, it was sweet. It was very sweet, but I'm still not crying. I'm still not crying.

Kelli (50:11.918)
Aww, that was so nice! That's really sweet.

I teared up a steaming Joe's gown, know, his thing. Yeah. And I didn't see it coming, but I have a feeling I will cry tomorrow. And a lot of it has to do with the teachers and the staff at Brick Memorial, I'll just say the school, who have helped him along the way. Because like I said, he can be a little difficult and they

Wendy (50:28.565)
Graduation gown, yeah.

Kelli (50:50.006)
some of them really like went above and beyond. And I've emailed them all thanking them. So, you know, I think I cry, I don't know if I cried at Tess's.

Wendy (51:02.751)
I'm sure you did. I mean, you cried at the fifth grade celebration. Like, you cry. You cry. That's what you do. It's OK. It's OK. I don't cry. I am cold and heartless. I just don't.

Kelli (51:04.397)
I probably did.

Kelli (51:08.194)
Yeah, I'm gonna stop. Yeah, you can't go by me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't think that is true. I'll tell you what, Liz Vesce is gonna be a hot mess tomorrow. Yeah, I'm just gonna have to sit next to her for some comedic relief.

Wendy (51:22.463)
Is she?

Wendy (51:26.909)
because she's gonna bring you down that rabbit hole when she starts crying. I will cry when I see someone else crying. don't know if I would... She's gonna bring you down that rabbit hole!

Kelli (51:30.382)
She is gonna be a mess.

Kelli (51:36.79)
I know, maybe we should stay on opposite sides of the field.

Wendy (51:38.463)
Yes!

Kelli (51:43.182)
but Joe is the last of my parents' grandchildren and Eric's parents' grandchildren to graduate high school.

Wendy (51:52.501)
So is Matt, my parents and Bill's parents, last to graduate, the youngest.

Kelli (51:59.192)
So big stuff people, big stuff. So we're celebrating.

Wendy (52:03.209)
We are celebrating. right, so until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Bye.

Kelli (52:09.058)
Bye.