Wendy (00:00.886)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.066)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:04.866)
And I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:07.274)
Gang is back together.

Lori (00:08.759)
Yeeees!

Kelli (00:08.916)
I know, the band's all back together!

Wendy (00:11.222)
Yes. Yes. We are doing Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Season 15, Episode Number 1, Hot Girl Summer.

Kelli (00:13.454)
Everybody's healthy!

Lori (00:15.896)
Yes. Thanks be to God.

Kelli (00:18.733)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (00:28.428)
Ugh. Sorry. You know, listen, I like hot girl summer for like girls who are in their twenties. I, you know what I'm saying? Like, believe me.

Wendy (00:30.144)
You don't like hot girl summer?

Wendy (00:37.618)
I agree.

Kelli (00:41.504)
It was a song, right? A couple years ago, that's where Hot Girl Summer came from. It was a song. Okay, okay.

Lori (00:43.808)
Yeah, absolutely. Yes, it was a song. It was a song. And believe me, kudos to those girls. They look fabulous, fabulous for their age. And I look no nothing like them, but I don't even aspire to look like that. I'm too lazy. But it's just, no, no.

Kelli (00:54.211)
Yes they do.

Wendy (01:05.366)
I thought it was funny. mean, I thought it was funny.

Lori (01:07.716)
No.

Kelli (01:08.526)
I'm here for it because quite honestly, out of all of them, are any of them married?

Lori (01:13.464)
I was thinking the same thing.

Wendy (01:13.694)
No. No, not ever more.

Kelli (01:15.48)
They're not, right? Not one of them are married. Boz is engaged. I'm okay with them having a hot girl summer, because like you said, they all look amazing. How about that opening with Erica? like, remember when Playboy had a channel years ago? That's what that reminded me of, her her, her stiletto sneakers, cleaning, washing her car.

Wendy (01:18.9)
Nope. Engaged. Right.

Lori (01:28.366)
They do look amazing.

Lori (01:38.678)
It was, listen, she looked, she looked, yeah, she looked great. She looked great, but there was a certain amount of cringe factor.

Wendy (01:45.077)
Right.

Kelli (01:48.494)
100 % like I said it was like an old-school Playboy Channel show yes

Lori (01:52.673)
Yes, yes, yes. I felt like I was like stuck in like, you know, late 70s, early 80s. And I was like, why, why, why am I, why am I here? Why are my eyes getting burned with this?

Wendy (02:02.302)
No, it's.

It's so funny when I saw the opening, you know, first with Sutton riding the horse and then Erica, I was like with her Daisy Dukes, right? And her five inch stilettos and then Dorit walking out with the Hermes bags.

Kelli (02:14.574)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Lori (02:14.596)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (02:19.662)
sashaying.

Kelli (02:19.682)
That was very clueless. That was very clueless with Dorit walking with the bags.

Wendy (02:23.232)
But they, there was, absolutely, but that was a story back in the summertime when they were filming that, because it was all over like TMZ and those, she's walking out of this store with empty bags. Like, I'm like, that's when they were filming the open. Like whatever that scene was, she got a lot of grief for it, for like over shopping. Because her finances, right, right.

Kelli (02:45.469)
because, got it, because they're questioning her money situation, of course. Right, right, right.

Wendy (02:52.966)
I had to look it up to see if they change production companies, because I kind of like this new production. I like that they're giving us this stuff. I like that they're showing us all these scenes of Beverly Hills, although I'm going to start counting how many times we see that white dog, because I don't know if they keep showing us the same white dog on the street, but I am going to start counting.

Lori (03:14.784)
Okay, okay.

Kelli (03:15.852)
Well, you know, let me ask you something because it was mentioned on husbands watching Howe's Wives, but they were actually talking about Salt Lake City, but it made me think of Beverly Hills. Did we hear taglines?

Wendy (03:28.658)
No, no, we didn't, but we never hear it on the first one. We never hear it on the first episode.

Lori (03:30.009)
Yeah.

Kelli (03:32.534)
Okay, but Husbands Watching Housewives brought up a good point. Like, we're not really seeing taglines that much anymore. It's almost like they're getting away from that. And yeah, and I was listening to them recap Salt Lake City today, but I was thinking about Beverly Hills. I was like, I never realized we don't normally hear them on the first episode.

Lori (03:42.138)
phasing it out.

Wendy (03:54.132)
No, we don't. I want to say it might not even be until the third, like the third episode, because as soon as they come out, I'm usually like, there's the taglines. And we didn't even meet the new housewife yet.

Kelli (03:55.661)
Okay.

Okay.

Kelli (04:03.18)
Right. I mean, they're honestly, they used to be released prior to the season coming on. Like that's how you would know the new season was coming out. Yeah. I don't think they have as much impact anymore. The taglines.

Wendy (04:10.144)
They did. They did. They were bigger.

Yes.

Wendy (04:20.062)
No, I agree. I totally agree. And Bozma's was, she was doing a photo shoot on her dining room table with the leaf blower. And Kyle was walking out of her house, getting into her Porsche. Like this is all like slow-mo calling her, you know, her daughter, Alexia. And that was, yes, her angel. I liked it. I kind of liked that cheesy bit. Like that's why I love.

Kelli (04:30.284)
Yeah.

Kelli (04:41.038)
My angel.

Lori (04:47.322)
You're so funny,

Wendy (04:49.382)
That's why I love Beverly Hills though. Like that's always been one of my favorites. Like if I tell people like who have never watched a Housewives show, I tell them to watch Beverly Hills first because it's just always been, even though I'm a Jersey girl, Beverly Hills has always been one I've loved. I just love the whole, well, I love the landscape. I love all of that. I love that. Right, right.

Lori (04:51.002)
you

Kelli (05:07.33)
Well, mean, the money is like, yeah, exactly. No other franchise can touch that, touch the wealth of Beverly Hills, yeah.

Lori (05:20.238)
And it looked like they were going to be going to a lot of really cool like locations and stuff, which is nice to say, you know, that's always enjoyable.

Wendy (05:20.584)
So we.

Wendy (05:24.202)
yes, yes. Yes, absolutely. Then we see Bozma and her daughter, Leel, and Keely's there as well, but Dorit shows up and it seemed like she showed up with the same Hermes bags that she had just purchased, but it was her birthday gift that she had for Bozma, her throw that she bought her. Okay.

Kelli (05:25.336)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (05:48.397)
Yeah.

Wendy (05:53.034)
Then they start talking about how are things going with PK. And I loved how Bozema called the Sheen version of Dorie.

Lori (06:01.876)
that was brilliant. That was brilliant. I loved it. Absolutely loved it. That was brilliant. It's a great line.

Kelli (06:02.006)
I thought that was great. Yep. Lover that. I loved that. Yeah.

Wendy (06:09.426)
I was like, that's great, right?

Kelli (06:11.384)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (06:13.588)
Yes, it absolutely was. And the fact that that's the day when she saw that picture that she said, I'm filing. So she filed on that day. And I don't blame her. I don't blame her. And then they start to...

Lori (06:20.996)
Good girl.

Kelli (06:23.618)
Mm-mm.

Lori (06:24.248)
Yeah. Yeah, no. That all that nonsense might be all fine and dandy for Kyle.

But I think that's bullshit. Separation, whatever. Like if you're there, you're out there in public, you're there, that's where you are, then to me on the other end, I'm like, okay.

Kelli (06:40.846)
I that.

Kelli (06:51.34)
I think there's two reasons for that and I agree with you. One, her kids are a lot younger than Kyle's kids. She's got young kids and let's face it, Dorit is way, like physically, way out of PK's league. Like Dorit's not, she's gonna be just fine. I believe that and the second thing is, I think we can now all accept that Mo was a big, big.

Lori (06:57.529)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (07:07.233)
way, way, way out. absolutely.

Kelli (07:20.046)
cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater. And Mo has just always been able to hide it, and now he's like, well fuck it, I'm separating, I don't have to hide it anymore. You know what I mean? I think, yeah, he must have had plenty of indiscretions throughout their marriage, which we heard about for years.

Lori (07:29.23)
I'm not hiding it anymore. Right, right, right, right. I'm with you on that one.

Lori (07:41.764)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (07:43.542)
think the difference is though that I don't think, listen, I think Kyle and Mo are still friends. They are, you know, they have children and that they co-parent and they're still friends. PK and Dorit are not friends. They are not on good terms.

Kelli (07:50.281)
I think she's...

Kelli (07:58.607)
Well, and the other difference is that Mo and Kyle have plenty of dough between the two of them. Both of them are going to be just fine. Clearly, PK and Dorit, we're facing some financial struggles. So once finances get involved, we're gonna see a different side of everybody. But Kyle and Mo, it's like, be married, be divorced, be together, not, we're both fucking riding high on the, you know,

Wendy (08:05.942)
100%. Right.

Lori (08:10.265)
Yes.

Wendy (08:10.656)
Yes.

Lori (08:12.782)
Right. Yes.

Wendy (08:14.688)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (08:19.898)
Absolutely.

Kelli (08:28.386)
multi-million dollar opponent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Lori (08:28.714)
The money train. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. On the money train. Yeah.

Wendy (08:33.504)
I mean, I did like that when we saw after the scene with Dorit, when we saw Kyle in her house cooking for Sophia and Portia who are still living there, and the other girls came over to talk about the wedding, you know, they call out their father, you know? Listen, I think that they have a good working relationship for separated people, and I think it's fine. Like, they don't have a problem with it. They handle their affairs.

Kelli (08:47.406)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (08:55.244)
Yeah. And the fact that, yeah, and the fact that his daughter can text him and be like, you're doing too much. Stop. Like, that's great. That's great. And she is not wrong.

Lori (09:03.396)
Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Right.

Wendy (09:03.55)
Yes, yes, right, right. Yeah, no, she's not wrong. And listen, if they don't have a problem with it, I don't think anybody else should. Do you know what I'm saying?

Lori (09:16.698)
Right, well, I'm just saying that's where I look at it from. So I can really understand where Dorit's coming from because that's how I would be. I'd be like, I'm out. I'm out. I'm not, you know I mean? Obviously, we're not getting back together. So I'm done, I'm out. Let's get this where we need to get it for our kids and let's move the fuck on. Like I'm not.

Wendy (09:21.598)
No, I get it. I get it.

Lori (09:45.782)
I could never do what Kyle's doing. I just couldn't. It's just not Emmy. That's all I'm saying.

Kelli (09:50.616)
Yeah.

Wendy (09:52.468)
Yeah, I think I could to be quite honest with you. You know what mean? Like, I'm pretty independent. Yeah, I mean, if I had that kind of money and my kids were in a place where they're at, you know what? I think I probably could.

Lori (09:57.058)
Yeah, that's what everybody handles. Everybody handles stuff different.

Kelli (10:05.548)
Yeah, I think it does come down to my I think for Mo and Kyle, it's probably easier for them to legally stay married because they didn't have anything when they got married. So all of this wealth, you know, was produced during their marriage. So it's you know, but it was his business. And I think it's probably easier for them to stay legally married.

Wendy (10:30.678)
And I don't rule out that they might get back together at some point. So then, you know, like if that may happen, then why bother splitting it up just to have to bring it back together again? You know what mean?

Kelli (10:35.552)
I totally agree with you.

Kelli (10:45.378)
And here's the thing, like listen, they're going through something. They're both possibly seeing other people. We don't know if she's gonna finally admit to that or not, or if she is, whatever, whatever. But the fact that she's actually being honest about it, like compared to Meredith on Salt Lake City, who clearly there are things going on in your marriage that are not, you know, orthodox, or know, normal. I don't wanna use the word normal, because that's not the right term. Traditional.

Wendy (11:10.08)
Right.

Wendy (11:13.75)
Traditional.

Kelli (11:15.116)
Right, but at least Kyle's being honest about it for crying out loud. So I think they're doing a great job, Kyle and Mo, with their daughters, with everything. Yeah.

Wendy (11:19.54)
Yes, exactly.

Wendy (11:24.414)
I do too. I do too. Yeah. I like that Kyle said that she's got four alpha daughters. Again, good for her. know, she's raising four strong daughters. I also like that we found out that I didn't know this, that Alexia, who's getting married to Jake, she's known him since the third grade. Like, you know, that is so sweet. And then when she pulled out the pictures of her wedding and Mo was only 25 when they got married, like it just, you know.

Lori (11:43.598)
Yeah, that was so sweet.

Wendy (11:53.8)
It shows you how long they've been together and how much they've been through.

Lori (11:57.914)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (12:00.988)
And then we see Rachel Zoe. She lives in Bel Air. I guess she must live right next door to Kathy Hilton because she also lives in Bel Air because I think she walked to her house, didn't she?

Lori (12:12.632)
Yeah, I thought she did say that. I think she did say that. Yeah.

Kelli (12:13.026)
I don't remember saying that.

Wendy (12:15.728)
Yeah, yeah. they've been friends for a long time and she's going over there to help Cathy pick out some clothes for she's going to a wedding in Rome. But I love how Cathy answers the door with her gold eye patches on, her under eye patches.

Kelli (12:31.758)
Absolutely unapologetic unapologetic Kathy

Lori (12:32.634)
Sure, why not?

Wendy (12:37.654)
And Rachel brings over this gorgeous Gucci bag that she never goes to Europe without. So I guess she's lending this bag to Cathy to take to Europe with her, which I thought, well, that's very nice.

Lori (12:52.666)
Sure.

Kelli (12:53.024)
It's nice, know, Kathy seems a little forgetful when she's on vacation though. I don't know if I would be loaning her such a valuable piece of, you know what I mean?

Lori (13:00.386)
Yeah, I don't, yeah, if it was.

Lori (13:06.914)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought the same thing.

Wendy (13:07.603)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (13:09.62)
I guess she's Kathy Hilton and if she forgets it somewhere she could just buy you a note.

Wendy (13:14.376)
Yeah, but it's not made anymore. It's a vintage bag. She's going to have to look all over.

Lori (13:16.826)
It was a vintage one, yeah.

Kelli (13:17.41)
That's what I'm saying. I don't know if I'd be sending Kathy Hilton anywhere with that bag.

Lori (13:21.38)
Yeah.

Wendy (13:22.154)
Maybe she could put an air tag in it.

Kelli (13:24.236)
Maybe, yeah, that would be good. That would be good.

Lori (13:24.59)
That's a good idea. I'm hoping that they do that.

Kelli (13:29.164)
Yeah. You know, I never thought either way about Rachel, so I never, like I was indifferent about her, but I liked her on this episode at least, a lot.

Wendy (13:29.494)
See you!

Wendy (13:41.216)
I did too. I did too. What did you think, Lori?

Lori (13:45.722)
We'll have to see. We'll have to see. As the episode went on, I liked her a little bit more. In the beginning, I was like, look at this boozy bitch. But we'll see.

Kelli (13:58.155)
I thought it was very interesting that she and her husband were married for so long before they had children. I only knew that she was a stylist for famous people. That's all I ever knew. And I knew she had a show. I didn't watch it. And her husband was on it and Brad Goreski. And then she and Brad had a falling out, which I need to find out more about. But that was interesting to me that they were married for so long before they had kids or together for so long.

Lori (14:03.064)
had children, yeah.

Wendy (14:11.999)
Right.

Lori (14:26.618)
Yeah, that's I was trying to figure out, like the math. Like how old did they get married very young? Because I'm trying to figure out, you know, for 18 years and then her kids are 11 and trying to figure out what age she is. I was just trying to figure it out.

Kelli (14:27.651)
that kid.

Wendy (14:35.753)
No.

Kelli (14:47.0)
Well, she started, you know, got her big break from, would she say Tommy Hilfiger, in early 2000s. So, I mean, that was 25 years ago. She looks damn good. So she must've been pretty young. She had to be in her 20s, I would imagine. How old could she possibly be?

Lori (14:52.142)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:52.19)
Yes.

Lori (15:01.37)
That's what I'm thinking, yeah. Right, that's what I was thinking. So maybe they got together in their early 20s. So I don't know.

Wendy (15:04.104)
Right. Right.

Wendy (15:11.028)
Yeah. I think that it seemed to me like when she started talking about her history with her husband and her career is that that's really what they focused on was her career and he was there supporting her. Although when they do cut to some of those scenes with him on the show, he was a little condescending and yeah, not very kind in his words. And she seems to me to be very, very zen-like.

Kelli (15:21.357)
Right.

Lori (15:24.676)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (15:32.726)
Intense. Yeah.

Wendy (15:40.564)
Like not crazy emotional, not, I don't know. She seems to me to be very calm, which I kind of like to be quite honest with you.

Kelli (15:45.859)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:51.587)
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It would be interesting if any of our listeners watched her show back when it was on, if they could give us some insight as to what the dynamic was between she and her husband.

Lori (15:51.608)
Right.

Wendy (16:03.958)
Yeah. Well, now she has, she's got different media businesses. She's started a clothing line in 2011. She's got a lot of different brand extensions and licenses that she works on. I will say I have some things that are Rachel Zoe that I bought from Marshalls or TJ Maxx and they're very good quality. know, I mean, I've heard people make fun of her for it being there, but who cares?

Lori (16:28.856)
Yeah, hey, listen, a sale is a sale is a sale.

Kelli (16:29.134)
Who cares? Right, who cares?

Wendy (16:32.699)
Right, right. So her one son is 14 and her other son is 11 and she can't really start her summer until the kids go off to do their thing. And we find out the one is going to France for two weeks on a trip and the other one's going to sleep away camp. And they pretty much have like their whole summer planned out where the kids are going, which I think that's common.

because I know Crystal Minkoff has talked about it many times. Like she sends her kids off to sleep away camp. Like that's what they do in Beverly Hills. They go off to these and the kids love it. Like they love going to these camps. So it's not like it's a bad thing.

Kelli (17:03.12)
yeah.

Kelli (17:09.421)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:14.294)
It does sound like her husband probably had cheated on her, correct?

Wendy (17:18.708)
Well, based on the fact that he's got a girlfriend that he's been with for a year and the kids met the woman or they knew about her 10 months ago. So when the producer asked her that question, she's like, will you do the math? know, she's not about to say it, but it is kind of obvious, I would think, right?

Lori (17:34.628)
Yeah.

Lori (17:38.488)
Yeah, I would think so.

Kelli (17:38.69)
Yes. Yeah.

Wendy (17:40.488)
Yeah. Then we see Erica goes over to Kyle's house and she's talking about her, she was performing in London, which we found that out at the end of the season last year that she was going over London to perform. And Kesha was there, Paris Hilton was there in London in this big, I guess it's a big kind of like festival that they do, a music festival. But next the two of them are going over to Sutton's house.

Lori (18:02.233)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (18:08.848)
And Reba's there, so Kyle's met Reba before, but Erica has not. So they're talking about, you know, what's going on with that.

Lori (18:18.168)
Yeah, Reba's looking a little bougie. Nah, she's in LA. She's just looking a little bougie.

Wendy (18:21.118)
Reba looks good.

Wendy (18:25.896)
Yeah. So we also find out when they get to Sutton's house that Sutton's son James is 18 and he's graduating from high school. So soon she's going to be an empty nester. Like that's her last one to go off to college. And Nick, the party planner is there helping her. And this is the first we see that there's no Avi. Now I heard

Bros and shows talking about this today. I didn't get a chance to look it up, but they said Avi was on a podcast and talked about what happened. Has anyone heard that? Does anyone know what happened? Okay.

Lori (19:00.57)
No. No. No.

Kelli (19:00.822)
No, I had no idea about that, but I will listen to whatever podcast Avi is on.

Wendy (19:09.438)
Okay, so we're gonna have to find it. They said it was the podcast that, do you remember Tom Sandoval and Ariana Sandoval had that one assistant that they were splitting? Is that her name? Well, she started a podcast and he was on her podcast. So we will have to find that and find out what that story is all about. Cause I wanna know that story. Cause I don't think.

Kelli (19:11.587)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:22.389)
Annie, Annie?

I believe so.

Kelli (19:33.357)
Okay.

Kelli (19:38.262)
I'm surprised he's out there talking about it.

Wendy (19:41.03)
I am too, because I would have thought that he's got a non-disclosure. Right. So yeah, we're going to have to find that out. Yeah.

Lori (19:43.386)
there would have been an NDA, right?

Kelli (19:45.356)
Yep. Interesting.

Lori (19:49.659)
Yeah, and you know, she's gonna lose her child support now. I mean, not that she necessarily needs it, but I'm sure it's no joke. I'm sure it's no joke. Because he's 18, right? He's 18.

Kelli (19:59.147)
why? Because he's going to college or I think it goes up. I mean, I think it can go up to, it depends on if they go to college. Yeah. It depends on if they go to college.

Wendy (20:10.048)
They graduate college.

Lori (20:13.146)
okay.

Wendy (20:17.074)
Either way, she's gonna be okay, I'm sure.

Lori (20:19.097)
you.

Kelli (20:19.464)
Yeah, I mean 300 grand a month if you can't survive on that

Lori (20:25.86)
You got a problem.

Kelli (20:26.956)
You have a big fucking problem. That's our alimony, but that's what I'm saying. Like really you need child support on top of that? mean, I don't know. The whole thing with this guy Christian, but honestly, I'm not excited that Sutton's on the show. I don't know why Sutton is on the show. It's annoying me that Sutton's on the show quite honestly.

Wendy (20:27.424)
That's her alimony, right? That's just her alimony. Right. Yeah.

Lori (20:33.975)
Right.

Wendy (20:54.006)
I'll be honest with you, I don't really have a problem with Sutton like you do, but I was very surprised that he got an annulment after they had been married.

Lori (21:03.822)
That was, that is some wacky ass shit I'm telling you right now.

Kelli (21:07.906)
Well, I didn't think you could get an annulment when you have children.

Lori (21:11.33)
Yeah, like, where you going with that?

Wendy (21:13.773)
Well, 17 years they were married. Listen, I've always known this, but now I know it for sure. It's all about the money with the Catholic Church. You got enough money? You can get whatever you want. I heard, bros and shows were like, what's the big deal? What's the big deal? The big deal is an annulment means you were never married. It nullifies it. It means you were never married. It's not just like you're divorced. It is a big, if you were Catholic, it is a big,

Kelli (21:20.91)
Oh, 100%. Absolutely.

Lori (21:21.882)
Of course. Yes.

Kelli (21:25.288)
Absolutely.

Lori (21:33.402)
Right.

Kelli (21:36.654)
It's big deal. Right.

Lori (21:38.264)
Right, it's a big deal.

Wendy (21:41.418)
deal. And for her not to even know...

Kelli (21:42.466)
The only reason this man, the only reason this man would want that is if he wants to marry someone else in the Catholic Church.

Lori (21:49.658)
in the Catholic Church. Absolutely. Because otherwise, what difference does it make? Right.

Wendy (21:50.587)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Kelli (21:54.56)
It makes no difference. What a douchebag.

Wendy (21:56.306)
Absolutely. It's not like the Mormon church where... Yeah. Yeah. That totally shocked me. was like, what?

Kelli (22:03.256)
But you're absolutely right. And listen, I'm Catholic, but you can write a check for a certain amount of money and probably get whatever you need.

Wendy (22:14.282)
Yep, yep, and it's disgusting. It's absolutely disgusting because you know what? She was married to him for 17 years and she gave him three children. I mean, Reba said, well, what are they, bastards? Well, no, I mean, but still, like, listen, it's a legitimate question. I mean, if you weren't married, if you were never married, then technically they are, but they were married.

Kelli (22:16.062)
Obviously, and that's what this guy's doing. Disgusting.

Kelli (22:32.684)
Well, aren't they though? Exactly. It's a legitimate question.

Kelli (22:43.628)
Yeah. All right.

Wendy (22:44.182)
You know what I'm saying? Like it's...

Lori (22:44.632)
Right. So stupid.

Kelli (22:47.062)
It's a wild thing to do unless you want to marry someone else in the Catholic Church.

Wendy (22:54.014)
And why would you do that to your kids?

Kelli (22:54.094)
Because there's a big book, you know there's a big book. Your information's in the book, my information's in the book. When we made our first penance, communion, baptism, it's all in the big book.

Lori (22:57.986)
Right. That's right.

Wendy (22:58.154)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:05.501)
Yeah.

Yeah, but with enough money you can just do an erasure in the big book, just erase away.

Kelli (23:12.706)
Yep. Yep.

Lori (23:14.136)
I always like to tell the story because my husband was raised Catholic and I'm Protestant. And the first time I took him to church with me, the collection plate came around and he was like, how do I put the money in there? There's no envelope. I'm like, you take out your wallet, whatever money you got, you fold it, you put it in the thing and that's it. He goes.

But how do they record it? I said they don't. They don't! They don't! No, they don't. It's what you can give. It's all good. He was just all freaked out about it. He was like, really? I'm like, really?

Wendy (23:43.638)
How do they know it's from me? How do they know it's from me? Why do I get credit?

Kelli (23:45.506)
Yep. Exactly. How exactly how do I get the credit? Yep.

Kelli (23:58.521)
That's really funny.

Lori (24:00.155)
It's hysterical. It's just funny. He was just, he was just very taken aback and just flummoxed and couldn't figure it out. And I was like, dude, whatever it is, it is. No one cares here. You can come next week. You could not come for three years and then you could show up. No one cares. No one cares. Just as happy you showed up. Just all good. It's funny though.

Wendy (24:17.302)
They're just happy you show up. They're just happy you're there.

Right, right.

Kelli (24:22.306)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (24:24.936)
It is funny and it's so funny that you just brought that up. So I know that this is a little off track, but I was watching the Heather Gay special about the secret. What is it called, Lori? Secret? About the Mormon religion. It's very good, but one of the things that comes up is about the giving and the tithes and in the Mormon church.

Lori (24:38.522)
I don't know, but it's good. I like her show. I only watched the first one. I gotta watch the next one.

Wendy (24:52.022)
This just blew me away. In the Mormon church, you are expected to give 10 % of your income. 10%. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, let me finish. Not only are expected to give 10 % of your income, you have to sit down in front of your pastor every year and say whether or not you gave 10%. And if you didn't, you need to answer for it. And I watched the pastor stand up there and preach.

Kelli (24:58.296)
That's every church. Yeah, that's every church.

Lori (24:58.894)
Well that's every church.

Wendy (25:18.07)
that if you are struggling with putting food on your table or giving your 10 % tithe, you were to give your 10 % tithe. What?

They want their money before you feed your family. Before you feed your family. So yes.

Kelli (25:32.558)
before you feed your kids. Wow.

Kelli (25:38.444)
Well, you can say what you want about the Catholic Church, but they don't do that.

Wendy (25:42.0)
No, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying about the 10%. Like, yeah, in theory, that's what it is, but no, no, that is what they expect.

Kelli (25:47.926)
Right, right.

Lori (25:53.093)
So they are not fucking around with it. I'm surprised that they don't make it like you have to attach your bank account before you can become a member.

Kelli (25:53.239)
Wow.

Wendy (25:55.914)
They are not fucking around with it.

Wendy (26:01.544)
You may. You absolutely may. You may. We didn't get that far.

Kelli (26:02.772)
Yeah, you might have to start doing automatic deductions. Yeah, automatic debits. Wow.

Lori (26:07.551)
Yes. Or manic withdrawal. Yeah.

Wendy (26:10.622)
Yeah, yeah, I was taken aback by that. was like, my goodness, like that is insanity.

Kelli (26:17.39)
That's crazy.

Lori (26:19.034)
So the girls go out and they have their little meal outside and all of sudden you see Cathy Hilton is like dicking around with her hat and the little string that's hanging off. Yeah, she's a scissors with a knife, right. So then she gets out scissors and I'm thinking to myself, where the fuck did she get scissors? Does she have them in her pocketbook with the jeans? Like, where did she get scissors from?

Wendy (26:19.412)
Yeah.

Wendy (26:23.285)
Yes.

Wendy (26:29.302)
Well, she's looking at her with the knife. She's looking at herself through the knife.

Wendy (26:43.722)
Yes! Yes! Yes.

Kelli (26:45.944)
Well, did you notice, I mean, I know this is at Sutton's house, right? Yeah, because we're not at Kyle's yet. I don't know if you noticed at Kyle's, but she had an assistant with her at Kyle's. Because that woman said, Kathy, would you like me to take your purse? Yeah. So I wonder if she just has an assistant with her at all times. Maybe the assistant.

Wendy (26:50.068)
Yeah, yeah.

Lori (26:50.799)
Yes.

Wendy (26:53.376)
No.

Wendy (27:00.897)
that's who moved her bag. Yes, yes, yes.

Lori (27:04.668)
wait wait, I thought that-

Lori (27:09.722)
But I thought that assistant at Kyle's was Kyle's assistant.

Kelli (27:16.44)
That was somebody else.

Wendy (27:17.064)
No, no, that was somebody else.

Lori (27:18.095)
okay. Well, this is probably a good thing. So maybe she said...

Kelli (27:22.904)
I'm thinking Cathy just has like a handler with her at all times. So if Cathy needs a pair of scissors, that person's gonna either have it in her bag and provide it to Cathy right there, or she's gonna go find the scissors. I mean, come on, it's Cathy Hill and she must have somebody just at her beck and call.

Lori (27:27.148)
and maybe she had the scissors.

Lori (27:31.758)
Get the scissors.

Lori (27:36.026)
Okay, I gotcha. Yeah. I think this is, but I think this is a good idea.

Wendy (27:44.586)
No, I was laughing hysterical when she was doing that. I said to myself, only Kathy Hilton would be looking at herself through the knife, because that's where she saw whatever she saw on her hat, through the butter knife, and then grabbing the scissors. was like, only, and then not does she do anything until Kyle says, you're going to cut your finger, Kathy. Nobody else, when Kathy does this stuff, nobody else even acknowledges her. They just let her go about.

Lori (27:45.348)
for Kat.

Lori (27:54.51)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (28:08.482)
No, they just let it, listen, it has been made very clear to me that the whole thing that they're, first of all, and I sent something to Wendy, I should have sent it to both of you. I really hope Garcelle got paid for this episode because all they fucking talked about was Garcelle.

Lori (28:09.978)
Probably used to it.

Wendy (28:29.141)
yes.

Kelli (28:32.928)
And the fact that Sutton is saying she doesn't know what happened when all of America knows what happened. It is very clear that Sutton just wants to be friends with the Richards sisters. And she never once stuck up for Garcelle when it came to Kyle. And that is what happened. And we all know that. But so to go back to what you said, nobody else is even acknowledging that Kathy has this behavior. Sutton's not going to fucking say anything.

Sutton's gonna let Cathy be as crazy and outlandish as she wants to be. Sutton will never call Cathy out for doing anything other than being amazing. Because she's so desperate to be friends with the Richards sisters.

Lori (29:14.084)
There you go.

Lori (29:19.99)
I think you're right.

Wendy (29:20.424)
Yeah, I mean, she's very quirky. Kathy is quirky.

Kelli (29:22.318)
Cheers.

Lori (29:25.678)
How about when Reboot-

Kelli (29:26.208)
I have to admit she's grown on me because I was not, you know, I was not a Cathy Hilton fan at all. She has really grown on me though.

Wendy (29:29.746)
I know, I know.

Lori (29:33.198)
How about when Reba says she doesn't want to kiss PK? He's very unattractive.

Kelli (29:40.834)
That should become a sound bite.

Lori (29:43.48)
Yeah, I like that. That was good.

Kelli (29:44.812)
We should be hearing that over and over and over again this season. I really hope we do. That was amazing.

Lori (29:49.806)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (29:56.478)
Yeah, that was a great scene. I love seeing them together. The next thing we see is Rachel's house, also in Bel Air. And she says the biggest dresser in her life is probably the two of them when they were working together, her and her soon to be ex, which I can only imagine. mean, can you imagine working with your husband? I can't. No, no.

Lori (30:18.005)
new

Kelli (30:18.466)
Never in a million years, never in a million years. I would never, we would never.

Wendy (30:24.02)
Yeah, no, we couldn't either. We definitely couldn't. And you could see that it's like, I feel like these are real emotions because as she's talking about it, you know, she's crying. these, like this is a real thing. And I don't think that she is just like this emotional, crazy woman. Like I said, I think she's very kind of zen-like and very practical and calming, right? That that's what she's got now at her house that he's not there. Like now she's got what...

Lori (30:53.402)
dot com

Wendy (30:53.524)
what she is. Right, right.

Kelli (30:55.948)
Yeah, I think it seems like she didn't necessarily want this separation. It seems like he most likely did something to prompt this.

Wendy (31:04.885)
Yeah.

Lori (31:07.93)
And you know, it was like, dang, when she said, you know, when she's saying this on air, that you know how he spent time with his girlfriend instead of his kids. I was like, ooh, ooh. Yeah, I was like, whoa.

Wendy (31:08.448)
I agree.

Kelli (31:14.147)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:17.74)
Yeah. She did put a lot out there.

Wendy (31:21.982)
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she's talking to her son in the morning and she said, you know, giving him his schedule and he go the day before camp, you're going to be with your father. And he said, all right, as long as I can spend the morning with you, you could see that, you know, he wants to be with his mom. And she's like, yep, you got that. And I love when she said to him,

Lori (31:38.458)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (31:44.534)
to any, like, you know, are there any girls that you like? He said, nah, the hormones haven't kicked in yet. I was like, oh my God, at 11? I love that, I love that.

Kelli (31:49.923)
So cute.

Lori (31:50.009)
It's funny.

funny.

Kelli (31:53.113)
So cute. Yeah, I'm really happy she's on the show. remember when rumors were swirling around about Tracey Tudor. I actually do still have hope that Tracey Tudor will be on the show, because I really do like her too. But I think that this was a good choice. I really like Rachel. And I think that this might be healthy for her, especially if she's friendly with Kathy. If she is in a bad place after her separation, this might be a really good thing for

Lori (32:22.144)
Right, and like we see later on, know, maybe hopefully she'll also be a good thing for Dorit. You know.

Wendy (32:22.496)
Yeah.

Kelli (32:29.294)
For sure. For sure.

Wendy (32:30.644)
Yes, yes. And then her 11 year old son asked her if she wants to know the quote of the day. And she's like, yeah. And he said, well, real love isn't easy and easy love isn't real. I was like, well, that is the quote of the day. Like, I don't know where this kid's getting this from, but I'm in love with this 11 year olds.

Kelli (32:46.286)
That was a great quote.

I When she says she was like, you're like an 80 year old to him or 40 year old, 40 year old. Yeah.

Wendy (32:54.774)
40, you're like a 40 year old.

Kelli (32:59.043)
That was good.

Wendy (33:01.278)
Yeah, the next we see Erica meets up with Bosma for dinner. Yeah.

Kelli (33:06.36)
Whoa.

Lori (33:07.874)
I can't believe Tom only got seven years, but I guess he's so old that like, that, yeah, even make that long, yeah.

Kelli (33:12.696)
He's so fucking old. might not even last, yeah. I can't believe what Erica said about Sutton though.

Wendy (33:13.44)
That's a life sentence.

Wendy (33:18.784)
Yeah.

Wendy (33:22.986)
What about Sutton?

Kelli (33:22.988)
When Bo said, will the real Slim Sutton please stand up? And Erica said, I wouldn't use Slim, I would use box. I was like, whoa.

Wendy (33:26.93)
you mean box.

Lori (33:27.48)
she said boxy.

that's very shady. Very shady. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (33:31.786)
Hahaha!

Wendy (33:38.07)
That was funny though. It was funny.

Kelli (33:38.702)
listen, I'm not a big Sutton fan, so I thought it was very funny.

Lori (33:44.41)
Yeah, that was funny.

Wendy (33:44.968)
It was funny. And then the rumor, the headline boasted, I saw those headlines about you that she was with a much younger Bravo Liberty.

Kelli (33:56.527)
I vaguely remember, but I can't remember who it was.

Wendy (34:00.106)
I don't know who it was unless it was Jesse Solomon maybe?

Kelli (34:04.92)
I think that's exactly who it was. I do think it was Jesse Solomon.

Wendy (34:07.894)
because it was in New York.

I don't know. think maybe, no, definitely, Carl, I mean, I think maybe Jesse Solomon, but I don't exactly remember, but no.

Kelli (34:13.587)
But it wasn't Carl, right? No, I think it was Jesse. I think you're absolutely right.

Yes. Yeah, it was like, vaguely remembered it, but I was like, shit, who were they? First I thought Joe Bradley, but I was like, no, no, that's, that was Luan. Yeah.

Wendy (34:31.644)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And not for nothing, but Erica, Erica's a tough one. she's like, Carl could not handle Erica. Joe Bradley could not harrow, no. Like Jesse Solomon, I think is the only one that I think could actually handle Erica. Yeah. Well, this is true.

Kelli (34:47.0)
I don't even know if he could. I don't even know if he could.

Wendy (34:57.056)
So they just wanted to get on the same page, because I guess they haven't seen each other all summer, because Erica was in London, right? And then they're going to be going to Kyle's house, and they haven't.

talk to all the girls and when they get to Kyle's house, we meet her new personal assistant and her friend, Jen, because she didn't have that personal assistant before. I mean, she's always had a personal assistant.

Kelli (35:20.492)
No, I think it's just a good friend of hers. Yeah, who's just now... She probably just wanted to get her on the show.

Lori (35:24.142)
Right. But you know, you know, she's talking about the party and it just feels like she's talking about like a 12 year old's birthday party. Like, we need activities so the girls don't get catty. I was like, my God.

Wendy (35:35.946)
The activities. I thought the same thing.

Kelli (35:39.651)
Yeah, I thought that was very interesting where she was like, you used to just be able to have people over to hang out and now you have to have activities. Listen, I know I'm different. I'm that person and this is just my personal opinion. I don't wanna play a game at a baby shower. I don't wanna play baby bingo. I don't even wanna watch Open Your Gifts, quite honestly. I'm very happy to, that's just me.

Lori (36:03.225)
Right.

Wendy (36:03.466)
Me neither, I'm the same way.

Kelli (36:06.87)
So I don't know how I would feel if I went to a party. I mean, they were kind of cute activities though, making the flower halo and, you know, but.

Lori (36:13.786)
Yeah, very cute, very cute. But I'm just saying it was just very reminiscent of a 12 year old girl's birthday party. was like, OK, I don't think we really need like arts and crafts and games and shit so that everybody will behave like what do you do? It's kooky.

Kelli (36:20.887)
Yeah!

Kelli (36:27.756)
Right, like you can't just invite me over and just, let's just kick it and have some champagne and like, okay. This is Beverly Hills, I guess.

Lori (36:33.358)
Yeah, right.

Lori (36:37.946)
All right, so two things, two things. I loved Sutton's dress and Rachel's dress to me was absolutely to die for. That's me a thousand million percent her dress. was like, I want it. Very pretty. I love it. I love it. I love it.

Wendy (36:38.441)
I thought the same thing.

Kelli (36:57.9)
Yeah, that's her look.

Wendy (37:00.852)
Yeah, that is her look.

Kelli (37:01.954)
I mean, she's a tiny, tiny person, Rachel. She's a tiny person. So.

Lori (37:08.494)
Well, I just need the size large and I'm good. Size large dress and I'm good.

Kelli (37:14.252)
As soon as we get to the party, I'm like, great, here we go. It's the morally corrupt Faye Resnick.

Wendy (37:21.34)
so funny they didn't even know who they thought that was Dorie and her like her and her friend Anna yeah I'm like how could they not know who that was

Kelli (37:24.99)
They thought her friend was Dorit. Yeah, yeah, they knew who Faye was, but yeah, they... But from afar, she kind of did look like Dorit!

Lori (37:25.518)
The other girl, her friend, they are the other friend,

Wendy (37:35.21)
I think honestly too it was that the sun was in their eyes. Did you notice that? Like they're coming at them and the sun is in their eyes and it's kind of hard for them to see. I thought, my gosh, this is so funny. It just reminds me of when Kathy thought Garcelle was Kyle.

Kelli (37:38.592)
Yeah.

Lori (37:44.92)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (37:45.218)
Yeah.

Lori (37:52.442)
That's so funny.

Kelli (37:59.375)
funny.

Wendy (37:59.798)
That's so funny. So then when Dorit gets there, they tell her that, we just thought somebody else was you. And I was like, you didn't have to tell her, right?

Lori (38:06.797)
Right, in the alibis.

Kelli (38:07.15)
Right, Kyle is still not drinking alcohol. I mean, listen, she looks amazing. So that's probably motivation enough for her to be like, I don't need it. I don't need it.

Lori (38:18.404)
Right.

Wendy (38:18.646)
Right, right, and if she feels good, then good for her. I did think it was a little shady how Dorit asked her though. Like, is-

Kelli (38:22.102)
Yeah, exactly. Yep.

Lori (38:27.181)
It was shady.

Kelli (38:28.566)
Yeah, she said, you coming back over to the dark side?

Wendy (38:32.256)
Dark side, yeah. Is that non-alcoholic or are you coming to the dark side?

Lori (38:33.274)
Right. Well, especially after last year with the whole Sutton drinking comments. I was just like, really, Durie? You already know this doesn't end well, so why are you doing it?

Wendy (38:41.802)
Yeah.

Kelli (38:44.503)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (38:46.302)
I also thought it was a little odd that Keely and Lael were there because, and was it her mom? Who was that other woman? it was her aunt. I was like, I was like, why are all these people here?

Kelli (38:51.175)
and, and her aunt! Her aunt! She brought a whole entourage!

Lori (38:52.856)
Her aunt, her aunt.

Lori (38:59.394)
Yeah, I thought that was odd to us. Like what's going on? But whatever.

Kelli (38:59.489)
I know!

Kelli (39:03.446)
It was crazy!

Wendy (39:04.948)
Yeah, yeah, I thought that was a little strange. I didn't know what was their ant. was like, who's this other lady there with them?

Kelli (39:09.612)
Hahaha

Lori (39:10.656)
Mm-hmm.

I thought it was really nice when Rachel Zo said to the table and basically to Dorit that kids want parents that love them, not parents that don't love each other.

Wendy (39:16.33)
So then.

Kelli (39:29.87)
That's right. That's right.

Wendy (39:31.094)
You know, that's so true. That's very true. I thought it was also Shady of Dorit when Sutton walked up and Dorit immediately said, I'm sorry to hear about the annulment. Kyle and Erica were just filling us in. I'm like, first of all, you guys are not on good terms. You haven't seen her in how long and this is how you come? Like this is how you come in her? It was so aggressive, I thought.

Lori (39:31.33)
I thought that was really, I thought that was really good.

Kelli (39:36.163)
Yeah.

Lori (39:47.18)
Yeah, no, that's not something you bring up at a party.

Kelli (39:50.455)
Yeah, yeah, you're not.

Lori (39:52.793)
Right.

Kelli (39:57.666)
Yeah, yeah.

Lori (39:58.211)
Yeah, no, not good. Yeah, yeah, not good.

Wendy (40:03.166)
And even when Sutton reached out her hand to shake it, you know, she wouldn't accept it. She wouldn't accept it. I'm like, is, Dorita's not being kind. She really wasn't.

Lori (40:08.216)
Yeah, that ended, yeah. It was all weird. Yeah.

Kelli (40:12.588)
Yeah, that was weird.

Lori (40:14.819)
Yeah, stop.

Kelli (40:19.37)
Yeah, you know what though? I kinda don't blame her. When they flashed back to the reunion, the things that Sutton had said about Dorit, fuck her. Like the whole plastic surgery, like anybody could be pretty with all that plastic surgery. That's terrible, you know? So I kinda don't blame Dorit, I'll be honest with you.

Lori (40:39.834)
All

Lori (40:45.411)
Well, there you go.

Wendy (40:47.04)
Okay.

Kelli (40:47.448)
But again, I'm not a big fan of something,

Lori (40:49.572)
There you go.

Wendy (40:49.94)
I know you're not. So then Bosma brings up that, we haven't talked and, know, I don't know what happened with you and Garcelle and Avi and now I hear you're an empty nester. And Sutton's just, yeah, I it was very rough, you know, I don't know what happened with Garcelle. And I'm just like, hmm.

Lori (41:09.635)
Really?

Kelli (41:10.83)
The hell you don't. It's so ridiculous. Again, I hope Garcelle got some, yeah, really Kyle, come on.

Wendy (41:15.006)
And Kyle said, yeah, it's a mystery.

Wendy (41:24.384)
I don't know. I don't know. thought that that was strange.

Kelli (41:29.696)
And how about when Kyle said Sutton was a different person when Garcelle was around, she wants her to be consistent.

Because she was different because Garcelle was trying to hold Kyle accountable for things and something would just sit there quiet and not say anything to not piss Kyle off. That was the difference.

Lori (41:45.76)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wendy (41:48.318)
Right. Right. Right.

Lori (41:50.699)
Right. And so actually probably, probably what the truth is, Sutton was probably more herself with Garcelle. And what, and what Kyle thinks is a real Sutton is Sutton trying to hold her spot with Kyle.

Kelli (41:58.317)
Right, that's what I think.

Kelli (42:07.054)
Kissing her ass, 100%. I totally agree with you. I think she was more herself when she was with Garcelle.

Lori (42:14.042)
How about when Bozema said, there anybody left in Hollywood that Moe has not tried to get with?

Kelli (42:21.592)
That was so funny.

Lori (42:23.258)
That's perfect.

Wendy (42:24.211)
Yeah.

Kelli (42:24.78)
That was great. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (42:28.692)
I didn't know that Rachel Zoe had a podcast either, because that was on her podcast. I'm going to have to check that one out too and see what she talks about. And that's when they all sit down on the pillows and that Cathy's assistant takes her bag. then she pulls it, before she pulls the jeans out of her bag. I have to admit that was the strangest thing I've seen from her in a while because.

Kelli (42:32.023)
Me neither.

Kelli (42:36.184)
Mm-hmm, yeah.

Lori (42:51.994)
Yeah.

Lori (42:56.729)
stare.

Wendy (42:57.216)
Well, these are for, I bought these for Kyle. Okay. We're going to take them out now.

Lori (43:04.132)
funny.

Kelli (43:04.686)
This is so funny. So funny.

Wendy (43:10.922)
And then Rachel says, we have a party at my house, it's going to have to be more like a boyish party, know, like dinosaurs and stuff. And that's when she said, you know, about the kids and the parents loving each other instead of, you know, the kids want their parents to love them. Then they asked Dorit if the kids know yet about her being separated. And

Kelli (43:17.996)
Yeah.

Lori (43:23.737)
Yeah.

Lori (43:29.208)
Right.

Kelli (43:29.324)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (43:41.37)
She says yes, but Bo seems surprised and Kyle seems surprised, because I don't really think that they do know at this point. Like, I think she just said yes. I mean, it's not like she sat down to talk to them.

Kelli (43:54.399)
No, she said Jagger makes comments and he knows that they're not together, but you know, PK has always traveled a lot. he, like three weeks out of the month, he wasn't there anyway or something crazy like that. So.

Wendy (43:57.491)
Right.

Wendy (44:03.392)
Right.

Wendy (44:07.988)
Right. Right.

Lori (44:08.984)
Right. So to them, it's not that much different.

Kelli (44:12.534)
now. So she might as well just sit them down and tell them. I mean, it's really not going to impact their everyday life.

Wendy (44:16.98)
Right. Yeah.

No, it's not. And I agree, especially when she filed. I mean, I could understand before she filed because she wasn't sure, but as soon as she filed, that would have been the time to have the sit down and let them know. I would think. And then she also throws out another shady comment to Kyle when they ask her about the pictures of PK.

Lori (44:21.838)
Right, because of the situation.

Kelli (44:27.416)
Sure.

Lori (44:28.345)
Right.

Kelli (44:33.356)
Right. Right. Yeah.

Lori (44:33.368)
Right.

Wendy (44:47.542)
And she has to say, to be honest, I think it's because he saw Mo. I'm like.

Lori (44:53.357)
No.

Kelli (44:55.042)
He saw Mo having a good time and wanted a piece of the action. How about what Erica said though? She said PK is a world-class partier. Mo's in kindergarten compared to that. I thought that was really interesting.

Wendy (44:58.624)
Yeah!

Wendy (45:10.772)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (45:10.81)
And I don't find that surprising at all.

Wendy (45:14.633)
No.

Kelli (45:15.304)
no, I totally agree with you. By the way, I know we all saw that cringy, cringy photo spread Moe did. I don't even know what he did it for, but ew. Fucking ew. But have you seen the video? He partnered with, yes, and he's dancing up on the thing. what a midlife crisis this guy is having.

Lori (45:16.088)
No. Yeah.

Lori (45:28.513)
I didn't say it.

Lori (45:33.143)
In some store, in some store and he's dancing, that was it too. It was, on a little podium. was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't dance. Right. Don't dance in a, don't dance in a store. Don't ever, don't ever dance in a store. I don't care what the premises. I don't care what DJ is there. I don't care what the fuck is going on. Never ever, ever dance at a store.

Wendy (45:44.234)
I'm sure his girls are all over it. I'm sure they're all over knocking him down.

Kelli (45:46.95)
that's

No, don't dance in a store!

Yeah!

Kelli (45:59.949)
Yeah, don't do it.

Kelli (46:04.471)
it was awful. you will. No. You will.

Wendy (46:04.662)
I didn't see it. You don't know what store? Okay. I saw the photos. I saw the photos.

Lori (46:12.311)
I didn't see the photos.

Wendy (46:14.514)
Okay. And listen, I think that Kyle took it well when she said that about Mo. I think Kyle's like, okay, you know, like that could have went. Because if it was the other way around, I know, but if it was the other way around, Dorit would have been all bent out of shape. Because Dorit is, she is bent out of shape with Kyle. She's all, she's, still bent out of shape with Kyle. She doesn't feel like Kyle's doing enough for her, but what is it Kyle's supposed to do for her? I really don't get what she wants from her.

Kelli (46:15.822)
Ugh.

Lori (46:17.773)
No way.

Kelli (46:22.067)
yeah. What's she gonna say at this point?

Kelli (46:30.328)
for sure.

Lori (46:30.402)
Almost definitely.

Kelli (46:33.645)
Yes.

Kelli (46:43.224)
I don't know, how about, do you guys remember, I couldn't, when somebody asked Kyle, you still in communication with PK? She said no, right? Okay, so it's very interesting that we're gonna see Dorit sit down with Mo.

Wendy (46:54.13)
Right, yeah. She said no.

Lori (46:56.164)
But then...

Wendy (47:01.462)
Right.

Lori (47:02.1)
She said no, but then somebody asked her like, somebody asked her something else and she, it wasn't clear. It wasn't, there was something weird. There was something like, like she did, she did, but then she kind of backtracked with the next question. So it left me with the impression that.

Kelli (47:14.733)
I totally agree with you. Exactly.

That's why I was like, did she say no? Like, was that what her answer was?

Kelli (47:28.62)
Yeah!

Lori (47:30.874)
Yeah, you do.

Kelli (47:33.77)
Exactly. Okay. All right. I'm glad it wasn't clear to you too.

Wendy (47:36.424)
I heard her say no, but I've heard her on other interviews or other places say that when it came out last year and she told Mo about it, Mo told PK that, you you're not gonna be able to send these memes back and forth with Kyle because it's a big problem. And PK thought it was dumb, but agreed to it and that they hadn't been doing that anymore. Like she has said that. I don't know though, I don't know. And I do agree that.

Like you said, it's weird that she sits down with Mo, right? And like I said, whatever, like the shade she throws at Kyle, if Kyle threw that back at her, it would not be okay. And she's holding Kyle to some standard that she expects her to do something for her when she hasn't done, I don't feel like she's done anything for Kyle.

Kelli (48:09.218)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (48:26.146)
Right, right, like even the fact that she was like, she texted me four days later, like, maybe that's what she found out. Like just because you filed doesn't mean Kyle knew about it, unless you called her and told her.

Wendy (48:31.37)
Okay.

Wendy (48:36.456)
Right. Right. Right. Right. I don't know.

So that's when Rachel said, like, let's make this a hot girl summer. That's when it came out at that party. And it was so funny because Kyle's like, I don't even know what a hot girl summer is. And Erica said, well, my idea of a hot girl summer is not with these chicks.

Lori (49:02.778)
It's so funny.

Kelli (49:02.86)
Right, right.

I'll tell you what, she looks great, but Erica's starting to get that ozempic phase. She's gotta slow down on it. She has got to slow down on the medicine.

Wendy (49:17.204)
What is the Ozempic face?

Kelli (49:18.976)
She's getting that withdrawn gaunt, super thin. It's not, she looks different. She looks different to me. Unless she had something done to her face, she just looks different to me.

Lori (49:32.41)
Hmm. Yeah, who knows? Like a little, a little, a little too sharp. A little too sharp in the face. Too sharp. I know what you're talking about. Too sharp. Yeah. I got you. So I can't.

Wendy (49:36.096)
I'll have to look at her from last year.

Kelli (49:40.206)
Too sharp. Too sharp. Her features are too sharp. Everything's...

Wendy (49:47.701)
Okay.

Kelli (49:49.622)
I mean, clearly I'm the picture of beauty here.

Lori (49:52.845)
my stealth also.

Wendy (49:53.746)
you

Kelli (49:55.084)
coming off of a week of a virus, no makeup and you know.

Lori (49:58.113)
Yeah, so I can't wait to see who Kathy Hilton is talking about when she says for the upcoming episode she says, read the room and know your place. Very curious.

Kelli (50:13.578)
I think it's to the new girl who we have not met yet. There's another new girl coming on and she apparently is not very forthcoming. I think she's, what was that, Diana 2.0. And I think she's gonna be a real problem with everybody. Because I think Rachel, yeah, I think Rachel seems to get along with everybody from what we saw during filming.

Wendy (50:17.6)
So do I.

Lori (50:18.122)
Wendy (50:20.523)
I do too.

Wendy (50:31.52)
She thinks she's something.

Wendy (50:40.182)
Yes, I think so too. So on Watch What Happens Live that night, Kyle was on along with Congressman Robert Garcia from California, which I thought, well, this is the oddest combination I have ever seen. But apparently he's a huge Housewives fan. And not only is he a huge Housewife fan, he quoted Heather Gay in January 2024 in a congressional hearing.

Kelli (50:54.52)
For sure.

Lori (50:58.39)
that's so funny.

Kelli (51:04.408)
Yes.

Wendy (51:10.292)
He did receipts, proof, timeline, everything we need. I was like, wait, what?

Lori (51:13.636)
timelines.

Kelli (51:17.506)
I mean, who is taking this guy seriously politically now?

Lori (51:22.756)
I don't know, but listen, you really do need receipts, proof and timelines. Maybe we could use a little more of receipts, proof and timelines. Okay? maybe there's that. Maybe there's that.

Wendy (51:23.414)
no.

Kelli (51:33.122)
Well, that's true. You're absolutely right. You're right. Good point.

Wendy (51:39.274)
Yeah, well, I thought that was an interesting fun fact. And the fact that Kyle is now officially the longest consecutive running housewife on all franchises.

Kelli (51:51.935)
And did Andy say, cause I only saw bits and pieces of this, did Andy say that Erica Jane has now been on the show longer than LVP was?

Wendy (52:00.98)
Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Yep. Erica's been on longer. Yep. And he also asked Kyle what she thought of all the photo shoots that Mo was doing. she didn't really say, but she did say, it's a bit much. Like, you know, not what she's used to with him, which I get.

Kelli (52:02.584)
Very interesting. That's very interesting.

Wendy (52:31.582)
I also thought it was interesting that she also said, again, she doubled down on Watch What Happens Live, that she does believe that Sutton doesn't know what happened with Garcelle.

Kelli (52:40.47)
ridiculous. She needs to stop. They sound ridiculous. We all know what happened. We saw it. rewatch the season. You'll see it for yourself.

Lori (52:41.934)
Yeah, that's kind of, that's kind of crazy.

Wendy (52:42.026)
I was like

Wendy (52:48.054)
The bartender that... I know, I know. The bartender that night was Justin Sylvester. Justin Sylvester was Kyle's personal assistant for 16... He's known her for 16 years. Before she started On Real Housewives, he was her personal assistant.

Kelli (53:08.236)
wanted to bring this up to you. Remember I said I have a problem with that guy Karamo because I thought something happened between he and Kat Sadler on the E channel? I think it was that guy Justin Sylvester and not Karamo. Because as I was watching it I'm like why does this guy look so familiar to me and then I googled him and he was on E. I think it was him that was so rude to her and that one yeah. Anyway sidebar. So Karamo I apologize we have no beef now.

Wendy (53:17.663)
Yes.

Wendy (53:21.565)
Wendy (53:31.798)
okay. Okay, yeah.

Wendy (53:38.122)
Okay.

Kelli (53:39.342)
You

Wendy (53:41.812)
And then an audience member asked Kyle what advice she would give to season one Kyle about relationships, about love and marriage, which I thought was a very interesting question. Kyle said, and she took it, know, she thought about it she said, you know what, pay attention to your relationship more and tune out all the noise.

Lori (53:41.86)
Very good.

Lori (53:55.662)
Very heavy question, though.

Wendy (54:12.03)
I thought that was a good answer. thought that she really reflected on it. she admitted, like Andy said, like, did you have problems because of all the rumors and stuff? She's like, well, I mean, yeah, I'd get mad about it. And I would yell at Moe. And he'd say, like, why are you getting mad at me? It didn't happen. And I do think that we're in the public eye. And there's a lot going on that you do need to actually pay extra attention to your marriage. And I think she...

You know, I think she handled it fine with her answer.

Kelli (54:42.616)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (54:45.674)
So I'm excited for Beverly Hills. I'm glad it's back. I haven't been excited.

Kelli (54:48.972)
Me too. wasn't, I didn't think it was going to be that great. I enjoyed the first episode and I really think it's going to be a good season.

Wendy (54:58.325)
I do too.

Lori (55:00.068)
We shall see.

Wendy (55:01.832)
Okay, so anything else?

Kelli (55:06.25)
The only other thing I wanted to bring up, and I know we're approaching the hour mark, listen, I don't know what I believe anymore on social media with AI, like we've had this conversation, but apparently Sierra from Summerhouse has come out and accused the cast of Southern Charm of starting a witch hunt on Vanita. Bullshit, this is not a witch hunt. If anything,

The Summer House cast is starting a witch hunt on Craig and they need to get the fuck over it. But I stand with Craig on the whole Vanita thing. She should not have commented on his relationship. She should have kept her mouth closed. And he never said he wasn't gonna film with her. He just said she's not a friend of mine. And that's okay. That's the only thing I wanna say. But I don't know if Sierra really said this because of AI. I tend to think she did though. I tend to think she did.

Lori (55:59.301)
Right, well you never know nothing anymore.

Kelli (56:05.048)
But I'll tell you what, I'm not watching Summer House because I have no interest in any one person on that show now.

Wendy (56:05.11)
I tend to think she did too.

Kelli (56:14.882)
So I don't think I'll be watching it.

Wendy (56:15.006)
I'm okay with that. I don't think I'm gonna be watching Summer House either. I am watching Southern Charm like you are. So far, Madison is my favorite, just like she's been for the last couple years. And I I recorded the new VPR, but I did not watch it yet. And I don't know that I'm gonna watch it either because what I've seen, it looks horrible.

Kelli (56:23.692)
me too, yep.

Kelli (56:32.13)
Totally agree.

Kelli (56:42.114)
I don't think I could do it.

Wendy (56:44.832)
It looks horrible. So we'll wait and see.

Kelli (56:46.688)
Well, it seems like overproduced. It's like, and I don't know if it was Kristin Doty who said this, but she was like, the difference is, that, or maybe Katie Maloney said this, but the first Vanderpump rules, like we really were friends all working at a restaurant together, dating each other. Like that was our real life. These new people don't know each other. They were cast to be on a show and they're all just going to do all the things to be the breakout star.

Wendy (57:02.728)
Right. Right.

Kelli (57:12.546)
So it's not gonna be good. It's not gonna be authentic or, it's gonna be like a scripted show. So if that's what you're into, okay, but it's not gonna be a good remake of the original.

Wendy (57:26.046)
I agree. But I will continue to watch the Valley because they really are friends and they have been friends for a long time and it's real. And Jax is gone, so there's that too.

Kelli (57:30.284)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (57:36.3)
Yep. Yeah. Exactly. Bonus.

Wendy (57:41.686)
So until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please give us five star reviews and share this with your friends. Bye.

Kelli (57:51.352)
Bye.

Lori (57:52.603)
Bye.