RHOA-The Glow Up Cost: Kelli's Financial Wake-Up Call

Kelli (00:00.716)
Hi, welcome to Be Wine Whenever, I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:03.407)
I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:05.402)
And tonight we're talking about Real Housewives of Atlanta, season 17, episode twelve, The Glow Up Cost. but before that, we'd like to ask you to please go to our YouTube and subscribe and follow us on all of our social media platforms and share, and comment because we like the interaction, the engagement. So thank you if you've already done that.

before we start Atlanta, do we want to kinda talk about what we've heard about Melania Judice, Judice? we know she put up a Father's Day post for Louie and and her own father, but I was kinda taken aback by the one for Louie.

Wendy (00:49.241)
Yeah. Yes.

Wendy (00:55.703)
I was too and supposedly and I was listening to Anna today, Anna from reality court, and she was saying that she also heard that Melania hired a high power attorney. Now nobody really knows what that means, right? 'Cause it's a very loose right. But Kim D did say that, you know, she is team Melania, free Melania, and that she would

Kelli (01:03.928)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (01:15.148)
Right. It could be anybody.

Wendy (01:25.189)
Hook her up with an attorney, and she really feels for Melania.

Kelli (01:28.386)
The same attorney that represented Vanessa against Louis.

Wendy (01:32.975)
Yes. So I personally think this is my own personal opinion, I think that that post was put up for a reason that Milani is CYA and I think that Teresa is probably threatening her. I think there's a threat. I th whether it is a threat of money, I I don't think it's money because I don't think Milani can be bought, 'cause I think Melani could earn her own money. Yes, she does. She does.

Kelli (01:48.824)
Mm-hmm.

I agree.

Kelli (01:57.836)
I and I think Milani makes her own money.

Probably makes a more than her mother at this point.

Wendy (02:02.665)
I think yes, I think it is more of a threat of being involved with the family. And that's what Melania really wants. And I think it is so, so sad that her mother is choosing Louie over Melania. Kim D had mentioned, and I I've seen this, that Melania is such a kind heart and such a good spirit that she really took to

Louis's son who has special needs and she was always there for him and

Kelli (02:36.749)
She put up a video, I don't know when it was from, but her hanging out with him.

Wendy (02:42.245)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:42.593)
You know, spending time with him. Like it was an old video that just resurfaced. She didn't just put it up now given what just happened. Right.

Wendy (02:48.143)
Yes. Right. It resurfaced. And we've seen Melania since she was a little girl. We see we saw her grow up on TV. We know how she was with her father. Her and her father have always been very close. Her and her father are very much alike. They're very much alike. They have that you know, that little hot temper. And you know, I it just breaks my heart that she's going through this and that her mother's not standing by her and she's standing by

Kelli (02:58.722)
Yeah.

Wendy (03:17.837)
what did you call him? Screwy Louie?

Kelli (03:20.013)
Screwy Louie. Red face Grewy Louie. What I am interested in is when Joe Gorga and Melissa Gorga are gonna enter the chat and get their take on it. But knowing them, they're gonna probably stay real quiet about this.

Wendy (03:21.456)
Yeah.

Wendy (03:30.969)
Mm.

Wendy (03:38.821)
I think they are and that also.

Kelli (03:39.213)
'Cause that could ruin the fake reconciliation they got going on with Teresa.

Wendy (03:44.557)
And I thought that reconciliation was real, but I you know, you know me. I'm all you never believed it. I always believed it. I do. But I know that she just launched her chocolate chip cookies for her s you know, her sprinkle cookie line that just launched this past weekend at her house. That was a big deal, it was a big party. It's gonna be a part of the season. We're gonna see it. Ugh, it breaks my heart. It just breaks my heart because I you know

Kelli (03:49.907)
I know you hope for the best.

Wendy (04:14.735)
Family's everything. Family is everything. As a matter of fact, it's also been said by Kim D, and I believe her, and I didn't used to believe her. Mm Melissa's family I know, Melissa's family wants nothing to do with Teresa. So when when Melissa's having this having this cookie launch and having all these events, her family's not around because Teresa's there. And listen, yeah, good for them is right.

Kelli (04:22.357)
I do too. I do too. I hate it, but I do.

Kelli (04:31.063)
As they should.

Kelli (04:39.629)
Good for them.

Wendy (04:43.205)
Good for them is right. But it it does break my heart. It really does. Because

I don't know. There's there's kids involved. There's kids involved, you know?

Kelli (04:53.907)
I hope that maybe Joe Gorga has reached out to Melania quietly and said, I'm your uncle, I'm here for you because that's who I think Joe Gorga is, that kind of guy. What they're doing for this show really upsets me 'cause I thought they were better than that. But whatever. You gotta eat. But

Wendy (05:08.343)
I do too. I hope so too.

Wendy (05:17.999)
Yeah, I wonder who Melania's godfather is. You think it's one of Joe's brothers? You think it's Joe Jiu-Ji's brother? 'Cause I know Joe Gorga's Gia's godfather. I wonder who Melania. I know Dina is Audriana's godmother, right? I don't know. I just hope

Kelli (05:26.667)
Yeah, I don't know. I would imagine, yeah.

Kelli (05:33.825)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't know who her godparents are, but listen, she's obviously still close with JoJo Dice's family because she was staying with the w his mother because she wasn't allowed to stay at the house when she came home from college, which is crazy. Because out of any Bravo kid, the one who was going to be the best on camera, it's going to be Melania.

Wendy (05:43.823)
Yeah.

Wendy (05:56.037)
Yeah. But they can't control her. And that's what it's about. That's what it's all about. It's about the control. Because Melania is Melania and she's gonna be who she's gonna be. And you're not gonna control her. And they don't want that.

Kelli (05:57.071)
So let her in the house and let her film.

Kelli (06:05.238)
Right. Right. She probably has called Louis out on his shadiness.

Wendy (06:11.717)
Yep. Yeah. All right.

Kelli (06:14.966)
It's a sad situation, but you know what? Teresa's whole fucking life is sad because she can't make a good decision if it smacked her in the face, which it should. Something should smack her in the face. She gives it all away for camera time. Half the pay, fifty percent. I mean, it's it's sad. I mean, she's married to Ike Turner over there for crying out loud. Well, I shouldn't say that. I'm I'm not I am not insinuating that Louie has ever been

Wendy (06:32.067)
It's sad.

Kelli (06:43.64)
physical with Teresa, I'm not saying that. 'Cause that I don't think. Even though th all that stuff's come out in the past. I don't know. Whatever. I don't want to go down that road.

Wendy (06:51.493)
I don't think so either. I don't think he's been physical, but I do think he's got a lot of mental control over her. Because let's let's face it, she is not the brightest bulb. She's not the brightest bulb. She really isn't.

Kelli (06:58.114)
Yes, for sure. No. No.

Wendy (07:06.703)
I mean just the fact that what's gone on no just the fact that what's gone on with that house that she's living in and the debt and the LLC and the it it's just craziness. She has no idea. She goes from a bad situation with her husband to a worse situation with her new husband. And honestly

Kelli (07:06.946)
Nope. She's not even the dimmest bulb.

Kelli (07:29.632)
Mm-hmm. Somebody who stalked her and whose sister helped him stalk her.

Wendy (07:34.041)
She has no idea. I mean that's the sad part about it. She has no idea. And if you try and tell her the truth, you're dead to her. 'Cause she doesn't want to hear the truth.

Kelli (07:43.808)
No. Like I said the earlier, w it's like a it's like telling a drunk person that they should stop drinking. That they've had one too many. It's like the the resistance is

Wendy (07:49.723)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:55.024)
Yeah.

Kelli (07:55.959)
off the chart. But we'll see. Yeah, let's let's get into Atlanta. All right. So Cynthia shows up at Angela's house, which is quite beautiful. yeah. And she tells Angela the rest of her conversation with Shamia and says what she's been going through with her surrogacy and her mom's health. And that Cynthia encouraged Shamia to go to counseling therapy.

Wendy (07:57.829)
All right, let's talk about Atlanta. Let's talk about Atlanta.

Wendy (08:07.483)
yes.

Kelli (08:23.636)
And you know, of course Angela's gonna be empathetic to all of this because she just lost her mom and

Wendy (08:28.827)
But Angela and therapy, that was like when she first started. She talked about how much therapy her and Charles how much she spends on therapy. Her and Charles go to therapy. She goes to her own like Angela is like the therapy queen. Seriously, she really is.

Kelli (08:33.4)
Yeah.

Kelli (08:42.816)
Yeah. Yeah. She's obviously gonna be a huge proponent of it.

Wendy (08:46.97)
Yes.

Kelli (08:48.428)
Yeah. So, and then Angela tells Cynthia she wants to plan a celebration of life for her mom and she wants to invite all the girls. And Cynthia's like, Well, I was just planning on having another Bailey Bowl and maybe we could play basketball. So they're gonna plan that. Excellent. Then we see Portia goes to her mom's house with PJ. they're getting ready to sell the house. And Portia says, Where's the big picture of you?

And her mom like reposes on the couch. But she had to take the picture down because they put it up for sale and they got multiple listings. They got an all cash offer, like sold it in like two weeks, right?

Wendy (09:29.617)
That's crazy, but good for her.

Kelli (09:31.137)
It is crazy. yeah. I mean, listen, again, beautiful house. It it belonged to Porsche. It that appeal right there, you know people are going to be throwing money at the situation. So she tells her mom about the skating party and that she and Phaedra want to take the ladies to Scotland because they need to get rid of the traitors. So we saw I saw Portia on Traitors.

Wendy (09:42.309)
Definitely.

Kelli (09:57.877)
I didn't see Phaedra though. Phaedra was good on Phaedra was on with Dolores, right?

Wendy (10:02.821)
Phaedra was on the year before. I think I did watch it with Phaedra. I did, 'cause it wa I think it was Phaedra and Dolores. Yes. I mean, the f Traitors is such a good show and I love that they're going to Scotland. I love that. I mean, I love that. I love that.

Kelli (10:13.111)
Yeah.

Kelli (10:20.162)
Yeah, it's cute.

Yeah. So she tells her mom that Dennis tried to give her the ring back and that she was triggered. And this cracks me up. She says Dennis wanted me to make a choice. I don't remember Dennis asking her to make a choice. He has a live in girlfriend, Portia. It's like she's making up a s something that never happened and just thinks we're idiots and are gonna sit here and be like, is that what he was doing?

Wendy (10:39.504)
Well

Wendy (10:52.133)
I I I don't know because I know he does have a girlfriend, but I don't think he's as committed to this girlfriend. I think he really did want Portia back. I think that when he brought that ring over because he had said that she gave it back to him and the timing wasn't right and now sh 'cause then she got married to Simon and he knew that that wasn't gonna last and he was waiting for that to be over.

I think that really I honestly think that Dennis does love Portia and I do think that Dennis wants to be with Porsche. I do. I do think he was asking her.

Kelli (11:27.224)
I think Dennis wanted to give her the ring back 'cause he knew he was selling her her mom's house and she needs the money. That's what I think.

Wendy (11:34.99)
I don't think so. I mean she doesn't need the money. She talked about what she's doing and financially it's a smart thing to do.

I don't know. You and I disagree on that one.

Kelli (11:45.39)
I just think Portia is a big giant liar. Liar, liar, pants on fire. She says whatever she thinks people are gonna believe. Nobody believes it. You're full of it.

Kelly goes to see Johnny, her financial advisor, and they're gonna talk about her financials. She says, This was so fun. I mean, he's asking her basic questions. She's like, Well, I didn't know we were gonna talk about this. Well, what did you think you were gonna get to go to a financial advisor? I mean, you have to tell him. Listen, I work for a bankruptcy attorney. It's so funny when you ask people about their expenses, they lie.

Wendy (12:04.863)
my goodness.

Wendy (12:12.463)
No.

Kelli (12:23.404)
You ask them like y yeah, tell them that you need bank statements and then we find out they got like three other banks, bank accounts. It's amazing. she says that Nana's in McDonough brings in seventy-five K a month, but Sandy Springs is only bringing in about fifteen K a month. And she said that's on the high side. So he asks her about her expenses. Her Range Rover is two grand a month, insurance six hundred.

Beauty and makeup twenty five hundred. I wish I had that I wish I had that budget. Hair, three grand. Shopping for clothes, eighty five hundred dollars. She says she was truly a housewife when she was married and didn't worry about money. But now she has to make decisions.

And Johnny asks what we could pull back on. And then we see that the her dog's wigs cost her five hundred a month.

Cha Cha's wigs are five hundred a month.

Wendy (13:26.257)
I mean, when we first met her and Cha Cha and the wigs and the nails and everything that was going on with Cha Cha, I was like, what is going on? And even that birthday party that she threw. That's right. False eyelashes on the dog. The birthday party where she gave her daughter all those what did she give her? Sixteen designer bags?

Kelli (13:35.497)
false eyelashes on the damn dog.

Kelli (13:46.466)
I it was either her fifteenth or sixteenth birthday and that respective number of designer bags.

Wendy (13:52.323)
like over a hundred grand in handbags. I was like, what

Kelli (13:54.989)
Had to be. Unless they were knockoffs, which I'm not opposed. Crazy. So yeah, Kelly has to make some decisions. then we see Kay goes to Nip Tuck Plastic Surgery. I love that name for a plastic surgery place. Did you watch that show when it was on years ago, Nip and Tuck? It was on FX channel. I watched it. I loved it. It was a great show. A little dark, but it was good.

Wendy (13:59.823)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:10.245)
That is so funny. That is hysterical. It's hysterical.

I didn't.

I didn't.

Kelli (14:24.646)
her doctor says that she has recovered from her procedure and she wants to talk about next steps. She wants to be healthy, but he tells her no more implants. And she looks like disappointed when he says it. So I guess he was talking about those injections again, in the injections?

Wendy (14:42.756)
Understand.

Well, I mean silicone. She had silicone like there's silicone all throughout her body. Like why would you tr why would you do that again?

Kelli (14:53.824)
And after you're saying you want to be healthy.

Wendy (14:56.559)
Right. And by the way, I mean, what I see is pretty freaking amazing. Like, what do you need? 'Cause he's like, We can get fat from some other person 'cause you don't have any fat.

Kelli (15:04.547)
Right.

Kelli (15:08.502)
And sterilize it? Hell no.

Wendy (15:12.143)
Wait, wait. Y this is all for your ass? Your ass looks fine. If you saw my ass, you'd be like, What? I mean seriously, like what are you doing? I I don't get it. I seriously do not get it. I don't get it. Fifteen surgeries. Fifteen surgeries.

Kelli (15:16.397)
Right.

Kelli (15:20.194)
Meat.

Kelli (15:24.736)
I don't get it either. I think her ass is fine. Yeah, fuck that. Like what are you doing to yourself? And why isn't this dentist that she's married to being like, stop, you're fine.

Wendy (15:32.512)
my god. my god.

Wendy (15:38.575)
Yeah. I mean, what is she wanna do to her ass? It's perfect.

Kelli (15:42.615)
It's perfect. I don't know. These women I don't know. Right. Right. Mine's flat. and yeah, Angela's with her daughter Amari. And Angela says that she saw Dr. Wendy and told her how the younger kids don't know that Amari is married. And Angela thinks that Amari has one foot in and one foot out. Like with her

Wendy (15:46.639)
At least she has an ass.

Wendy (15:51.825)
Mine too.

Kelli (16:10.764)
Basic not just with her marriage, but being an adult. Like she acts like she wants to be an adult, but then, you know, she doesn't want to do adult things and make adult decisions. So she Angela wants her to tell her siblings that she's married. And they say, like, Amari's partner has been around since she was a teenager. But

Wendy (16:33.303)
not understand this whole thing. I seriously don't understand it. The girl is twenty five years old. did you see on Watch What Happens Live? Angela said that

Kelli (16:39.704)
Yeah, I mean

Kelli (16:44.064)
I di I've only seen clips of Angela on it. I have to watch it though.

Wendy (16:47.333)
So Angela Angela said that Amari came out to her when she was twelve years old. And she was with this same girl. They have been friends since then. She made her coming out cookies. It's not like she has a problem with her being gay. Like this has been her best friend. She has been in her life, they've been on family vacations, they've been together the whole time. I don't understand why this is a thing.

Kelli (16:53.687)
Wow.

Kelli (16:59.949)
Wow.

Kelli (17:05.164)
Right.

Wendy (17:16.995)
I I don't I I seriously I don't understand it. I don't understand why Amari doesn't want to tell her siblings

Kelli (17:22.123)
I don't understand it either.

Kelli (17:26.574)
And that's interesting because in a confessional Amari says that she'll tell them in a few years. She says she didn't tell Angela because she was impossible to talk to back then. she must have been talking about when they got married.

Wendy (17:41.443)
Right, when they got married. And it's it's again again

Kelli (17:43.537)
okay. And it sounds like that was at the time that maybe Angela and Charles were going through a little something.

Wendy (17:51.311)
Yeah, but I mean, you got married. And that's that's what Angela said on Watch What Happens Live. She's like, You know what? I've accepted her always. Like this has never been an issue for me. I made her coming out cookies. Like, I just would have liked to have been at the wedding. I would have liked to have been a part of it. She's been a part of our family this whole time. And Andy's like, Well, I think I think the kids kn Angela's like, Well, the kids know and Andy's like, Yeah, because your son was there listening She's like, Yeah, I I mean the kids know. We it

Kelli (18:10.124)
Right.

Kelli (18:18.414)
I mean, that was ridiculous. He was on the sta yeah, on the stairs.

Wendy (18:22.083)
Right. I yeah. But she's like they know 'cause he she's always been around. I mean their kids aren't stupid. I don't know.

Kelli (18:31.862)
Yeah, well it and then it it like ends like, you know, Angela says you're entitled and spoiled and Amari says then I won't I would just won't come around here anymore. Like it just went left so quickly. I mean I don't think there's anything wrong with Angela wanting her to be the one to tell her siblings. I think that that's you know, making her act like a grown up, showing some maturity. But at this point, who cares? Just tell them like

Wendy (18:44.102)
Yeah.

Wendy (18:47.535)
Yeah, it it's in.

Wendy (18:58.361)
Yeah, but I think it's like exactly, but that's the whole thing. At this point, who cares? The girl's twenty five. She's told her mother since she was twelve. She said on the show sh she doesn't remember how long they've been together. It's been that long. They've always been together. This is her best friend, her life partner. Who cares?

Kelli (19:17.622)
Which is crazy. I mean, my God, you've only been with one person.

Wendy (19:21.391)
Yeah, but if you know, you know, right? And love is love. Like just let her be, you know? And not that Angela has a problem with that. That's the whole thing. She doesn't even have a problem with it.

Kelli (19:23.532)
Yeah, I guess. Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (19:32.141)
Right. Right. So then we just get like a couple of little scenes, like Kay Michelle's meeting with her team and she wants her country album to speak to all demographics. Phaedra is talking to Willie Watkins, the funeral home proprietor, and she says she is the mistress of the dead. I do remember him. we see Delia, Pinky's daughter, is that how you or Della?

Wendy (19:43.429)
Mm.

Wendy (19:48.732)
my God, do you remember him?

Wendy (20:01.839)
I Diella maybe? I think it's Diella, yeah.

Kelli (20:03.928)
DL, that's it. DL Pinky's daughter is in a runway show and she is adorable.

Wendy (20:09.553)
She's so cute.

Kelli (20:11.456)
Yeah. And then we see Shamia and her mom are getting their nails done and Shamia's telling her about the Bailey Bowl and that she was invited and it's in the honor you know, i in the honor of Angela's mom.

Portia and Drew. Drew shows up at Porsche's house and they have wings. This is this cracks me up. Drew asks about Simon's sponsorship. I w I didn't understand that. I guess it was for Portia.

Wendy (20:31.315)
my gosh.

Wendy (20:38.929)
Well, she was banned from Nigeria. She said Portia was banned from entering the country of Nigeria. I was like, wait, what?

Kelli (20:46.254)
Could you imagine just being banned from a whole damn country?

Wendy (20:50.123)
No, I seriously can't. Like what have you done?

Kelli (20:52.974)
Exactly. Exactly. So, Portia says to Drew, they want she wants to make money together. So Drew's getting a line for her wigs, for go naked wigs. And Portia says she wants to empower Drew, especially with her going through her divorce. Listen, Portia, if I were you, I would go through the right channels. I would meet I would go through management. I would send the email. Don't screw this up like Pinky did with her movie.

Wendy (21:01.392)
Yeah.

Wendy (21:21.551)
Yeah, 'cause Drew says that I have a new manager, so we'll let our teams talk. I would like to move forward, but right, but how about when Portia says to Drew, like, You don't know how to eat chicken wings, like I need your black card back. She's got to teach her how to eat chicken wings.

Kelli (21:24.716)
Yeah. She does not play.

Kelli (21:36.992)
She sucked that meat right off that bone, Porsche.

Wendy (21:40.545)
she sure did. Listen.

Kelli (21:44.502)
She would have kicked me out of her house 'cause you know how I eat chicken wings? With a fork and a knife, 'cause I don't want that shit all over my fingers.

Wendy (21:49.219)
I don't even eat them. I don't even eat chicken wings 'cause I don't want the got shit getting underneath my nails. I don't want to be playing with the bone. I I need boneless chicken. I'm sorry. I'm I don't want any bones in my chicken.

Kelli (21:54.464)
No, I use a fork and a knife.

Kelli (21:59.297)
I like that too. But it I'll do the b I'll do on the bone, but I use a fork and a knife.

So Kelly is now meeting with her realtor Tamika and they're looking at prospective rentals. She's looking at a nice three bedroom, five bath, thirty five hundred square foot townhouse. It has an elevator. And should meas Kelly says it should mean a made her feel very comfortable, but it's time to move on. This place is seven K a month. Seven K a month.

Wendy (22:10.084)
Okay.

Wendy (22:31.781)
She has a four thousand dollars. She has a four thousand dollar a month. What kind of realtor shows you a seven thousand dollar a month apartment when your budget is four thousand?

Kelli (22:34.006)
And her budget is pork.

Kelli (22:43.094)
I think the whole purpose of this was so Kelly could say, like, is this something I can do? And the realtor's like, Financially you're gonna have to suffer for a little while. Kelly says she wants to provide a similar lifestyle for her girls than what they're used to you know, than to what they're used to, but it's necessary as a single mom, you have to make sacrifices. So she's gonna make this her goal for her to get something like this next year.

Wendy (22:45.755)
She needs to fire her.

Kelli (23:11.68)
So and she wants a prayer closet. So she also wants Bravo to pay her more money so she can afford that townhouse. That was a nice townhouse though.

Wendy (23:19.749)
And by the way, I'm just gonna say this even as a married mother, you still need to make sacrifices. You still you still need to make sacrifices, right? I mean, I I hear it for these single moms out there, but I I'm a married mom. You're a married mom. We make sacrifices every day. Every day.

Kelli (23:27.188)
Yes. Word. Word. Yep.

Kelli (23:37.294)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (23:43.424)
Every day, every day. Normally I'm sacrificing my sanity.

Wendy (23:46.373)
Just saying that. Yeah. Among other things.

Kelli (23:50.563)
Yeah, exactly. Angela calls Dr. Wendy with Amari and Angela wants to talk about the boundaries that she and Dr. Wendy have set. And she wants to make sure that she is heard and she wants Amari to build a life for herself. Amari doesn't understand why she has to tell her siblings. It's just so funny. It's like

They're both digging their heels in the sand over something that's like they probably already know. totally. Omari feels like when Angela sets boundaries, she means that she doesn't need her anymore. And then she says that Angela's mom was a good mediator between the two of them. So, you know, they talk with Dr. Wendy and Angela says the takeaway is that they'll be calling her again in two weeks to keep this tree moving.

Wendy (24:24.047)
They do know.

Wendy (24:45.286)
she will be. I I think that honestly I feel like Doctor Wendy is on speed dial for Angela.

Kelli (24:50.092)
I think she's on retainer for the Oakleys.

Wendy (24:52.985)
A hundred percent. And you know what? It's so funny because like I said, Charles and Angela were on Watch What Happens Live. He doesn't he is like the least phased by anything I've ever seen of a husband ever. He just is there for the ride. He does not even care. Whatever Angela wants, it's okay with him. It's okay with him. And by the way

Kelli (25:13.698)
Yep. The clips I've seen, I totally agree.

Wendy (25:18.213)
Her dress, she looked amazing. Looked amazing. Looked amazing.

Kelli (25:19.724)
Not dead. Yep.

Kelli (25:24.974)
Floor length sequin gown Nick's logo. That needs to go in the clubhouse.

Wendy (25:29.839)
Yep. It must have been chat it had to be Charles' number. I I'm sure it was his number.

Kelli (25:36.046)
thirty three.

Wendy (25:38.479)
I don't I don't remember, but maybe.

Kelli (25:42.158)
Pretty sure he was thirty three.

Wendy (25:44.227)
It was something three. I just remember seeing it and I was like, my god.

Kelli (25:47.394)
Yeah, John Starks was number three, so I know it's not number three. And I don't th he wasn't twenty three.

pretty sure.

Wendy (26:01.179)
So while you're looking that up, the event is today they're at the Bailey Bowl and what was it? What was it? 34? 44. 44? 34. Okay. Okay, I knew there was a three there, yeah. So the event is the Bailey Bowl, and it is the Bailey Bowl and the Fangie. It is a memorial basketball event for Angela's mother. And Charles Oakley is the referee.

Kelli (26:05.102)
thirty four. Thirty four. Yeah. Thirty four. Three four. Yeah.

Kelli (26:24.758)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:31.355)
Mm-hmm. No, I think that's great. Bailey Bowl and Fangie Maggie Madness.

Wendy (26:31.407)
I couldn't think of a better one.

Wendy (26:39.951)
Yep, that was great.

Kelli (26:41.262)
So I guess each girl got to put together a team of five.

Wendy (26:46.831)
That was great. I did not expect I did not expect all these girls to roll up with crews, did you?

Kelli (26:51.778)
Yeah. No, I didn't, but I thought it was great. and Cynthia has Le Prince with her and Paul Parks and Justin Tuyo. I don't know how to pronounce it, but they were NBA players.

Wendy (26:54.895)
I loved it. Loved it.

Wendy (27:02.757)
She had her glam team. She was like, I got I got La Prince of McGlam.

Kelli (27:06.902)
Yeah. So Pinky and Derek show up with some big boys and Charles says, Are you here to play basketball or try out for the Bears?

Wendy (27:20.912)
my god, that was so funny. That was so funny.

Kelli (27:23.02)
Yeah. Pinky's team was team Chatty Patty, Phaja's team Godfather, Kelly's team Minion, Kay's team blind ops, and Shamia is team Sasquatch.

Wendy (27:32.901)
Loved it.

Kelli (27:39.971)
and Angela's is fangie and Portia's fifty six.

Wendy (27:40.315)
Porsche's team was go naked.

Wendy (27:45.563)
Cynthia's fifty cent, Porsche's go naked. And Drew's team was Dululu.

Kelli (27:46.826)
Cynthia's fifty cent. Yeah.

Kelli (27:51.648)
Mm, mm-hmm.

Wendy (27:52.697)
I didn't even see Drew's team play, did you? Okay. Yeah, it was Jululu.

Kelli (27:54.983)
No, I did not. I didn't even write down the name of her team.

Kelli (28:01.023)
Angela falls and Charles didn't go check on her and he goes, You weren't down for thirty seconds She's like, I think I was down for thirty seconds.

Wendy (28:07.025)
Even I don't even know how she fell. Like I rewound it. Like how did she even fall? There was like nothing there.

Kelli (28:12.502)
I don't know, but w the por the one who should have fallen was Kelly in those damn stilettos. I mean, what are you doing?

Wendy (28:18.652)
my gosh. I know. I know. The socks and the stilettos?

Kelli (28:21.58)
And they weren't even like the stilettos that Erica Jane wore when she was washing her car in the beginning of the Beverly Hills season the one time.

Wendy (28:27.895)
No. No. No. I don't know what was going on there.

Kelli (28:32.93)
Yeah. So the final was go naked versus Sasquatch and Sasquatch won. no, the final was Fanji versus Sasquatch. And Angela says she really wanted to win this for Charles. so Team Fangie wins. She really wanted she really wanted to win this for Charles because he came close in college and he came close in the NBA, but it was her that had to bring it home.

Wendy (28:49.381)
It was so funny.

Kelli (28:57.72)
it was so funny. And he goes in for a kiss and she's like, No. And then the producers are like, you know, first season you were on, you were begging him for a kiss and they flash back.

Wendy (28:57.745)
Ha ha ha

Wendy (29:11.121)
I love their banter, I really do.

Kelli (29:13.204)
I do too. I do too. And I don't think people like understood it at first, but you know what? It's it's not always for us to understand.

So then of course we're not gonna get through this nice fun event without some drama. So the girls are talking at the end, and Angela says she knows Shemia was coming for her marriage, and that couldn't be further from the truth. so Angie says she knows Shemia said Angela was coming for her marriage, and she said that couldn't be further from the truth, and that Shamia is spreading that narrative. Angela did

Wendy (29:30.033)
Course not.

Wendy (29:35.057)
Mm.

Kelli (29:54.684)
so Shemia says that I didn't understand this. Angela says that I guess Shemia said in an interview that she thinks Angela was the one that set Charles up last year, not Phaedra. That's a little crazy.

Wendy (30:11.909)
That is crazy.

Kelli (30:13.548)
Yeah. And

And then sh she

Wendy (30:19.697)
But Angela was coming for Shamia's marriage because she was saying that Shamia was sleeping with a Hawks and a what was the other team? Falcons player, right? So I mean I do think that Angela was coming for her marriage because when she was on Watch What Happens live, Andy did ask her what he say?

Kelli (30:30.318)
Falcons.

Right. Right.

Wendy (30:49.327)
When did you Andy's asked, when did you first hear that Shamia was sleeping with NBA players? And did you have sources other than Charles? And Angela said last season she admitted the rumors had been around since the cat was a kitten. So I didn't create any rumors about her. That's bullshit. I'm gonna tell you right now, that's bullshit. Because Angela was perpetuating that that

Kelli (31:09.486)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (31:16.643)
Shemia was cheating on her husband. Even though when she said it in her confessionals, she said, I'm not gonna say when it happened.

So I'm sorry, Shimea was right on that.

Kelli (31:27.628)
No. No, Shemia was definitely right. and so now they're fighting and then Drew and Shamia start arguing. And then out of nowhere, Pinky says to Shamia, Are you and Kay good? And Shamia's like, What's wrong with me and Kay? So Kay says I don't want to discuss it in her confessional. I'll talk to her another time.

Wendy (31:45.175)
I know, I know.

Kelli (31:56.469)
I actually think that's a smart move, but I don't think that's why Kay did it. I think Kay talks out of one side of her mouth and then when she's approached with it, she can't handle it.

Wendy (32:11.481)
Kay, seriously, I can't figure out what Kay's angle is. I'm not joking. Like I don't I like her. I do like her. But I cannot figure out what her angle is. I can't figure out what she's trying to accomplish.

Kelli (32:14.912)
Me neither.

Kelli (32:24.64)
If that was brought up, what Kay told Pinky about how Shamia was they were praying for two hours and she was saying, Nobody wants me to be your friend. If that was brought up, I guarantee Shamia would be like, That's not what happened. This is what really happened. I think that Kay might just be one of those people whose reality is very different from other people's reality.

Wendy (32:42.8)
Yeah.

Wendy (32:54.351)
All right. We're gonna have to wait and see what happens. I mean, like I said, I like Kay. I like her, but I don't I don't know where she's coming from half the time. I really don't.

Kelli (32:57.122)
We are Yeah.

Kelli (33:02.614)
I can't get a read on her. I can't get a read on her.

Wendy (33:06.403)
No. I'm excited to see Scotland though. I mean I'm s excited to see what did they call him? The only like the first black Scottish person? What's his name?

Kelli (33:11.107)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:19.8)
I don't know. I didn't even hear them talk about that.

Wendy (33:22.947)
yeah. So the guy that like greets him at the castle, he's like a famous TikTok person and he's black and he's Scottish and they're all like, We didn't even know that there was black Scottish people. Listen, if he's got the accent, that's all they need. That's all I need, right? You got the accent. That's all I need. I don't know. I'm looking forward to Scotland. I really am.

Kelli (33:34.616)
Okay, he can't be the first black Scottish person. I mean this sounds crazy. This sounds crazy.

Kelli (33:45.676)
Yeah, for sure, for sure.

Kelli (33:52.963)
Me too. Me too. I actually enjoyed this episode of Atlanta. I haven't really been enjoying them. I don't like all the fighting. I feel like there's too much fighting this season. Like unnecessary fighting. And listen, I always, you know, I get a feel for these things. I feel like it's all stemming from Portia. She's sitting back with her hands clean. Drew's doing her dirty work. Angela's doing her dirty work.

Wendy (33:55.162)
I am.

Wendy (34:03.909)
No, I don't either.

Yeah.

Mm.

Kelli (34:24.64)
I don't know. That's my vibe. That's my feeling. Phaedra is not doing her dirty work though. Phaedra's very enjoyable this season.

Wendy (34:30.555)
All right, so wait. You're gonna so on Watch What Happens Live, Angela was on and Michelle Buteau. I wrote Angela's dresses everything. starts out with Charles, how great it was for him to see the Knicks win. He said it doesn't he he du Andy brought up about him and Patrick Ewing. He said he doesn't have a problem with Patrick Ewing. Like the two of them went to war together and they're hoping that they come back together.

Angela said she was so happy that the Knicks held out and won in San Antonio so that Charles could be in the building. And you saw like when the when the Knicks won in five and

Kelli (35:06.402)
That would have been horrible if he couldn't be there.

Wendy (35:09.359)
Right. When the Knicks won in five, you saw Angela was in tears. She was so happy that she was there and he more so that he was there, right? And I do know that I've I've read all over the place that there was people, I believe Michael Jordan, there was a lot of people, maybe even LeBron, behind the scenes trying to get Charles to be allowed in MSG. But it just wasn't happening. I I don't get this. I mean, I don't get it, but

Kelli (35:19.342)
Course.

Kelli (35:36.525)
Yeah.

Wendy (35:39.235)
Whatever. I hope at one day. Well, there was a fight. There was a fight, and he went after the owner, I think, of the team. Who's still, I think, the owner of the team. So there's that. Andy wants to talk about Amari. Andy said, I think the viewers have a misconception that you're not supportive of her lesbianism. I didn't even know lesbianism was a word. Just gonna put that out there. and you know

Kelli (35:39.628)
Listen, he must have said some shit that night.

Kelli (36:05.048)
Ha ha

Wendy (36:09.337)
She posted a couple weeks ago that she came out when she was twelve. So obviously she's supportive of it. Angela just said I wanted to be a part of her getting married. I told you, you know, we already know the siblings know. Angela Andy asked Angela, what was your reaction to hearing how much Kelly spends a month? Angela's like, Yeah, that was a lot. And and it we agree that was a lot.

Kelli (36:35.83)
I mean, that is a lot of money. I'm sorry. You're not married to Charles Oakley. Like I i i if Angela said that shit, we'd be like, What? And she's married to Charles Oakley.

Wendy (36:42.787)
No no

Wendy (36:49.103)
Right. And then I like said, Andy asked, like, when did you hear the the rumors that Shamia was sleeping with an NBA player and was it other than Charles? And she said yes. what was your reaction to hearing that Gerald expressed discomfort to Shamia acting in love scenes? She said I don't blame him. Wait, wait, there's more to this. Do you think Shamia and Gerald's marriage is rock solid as it seems?

Angela said, Shamia and I have vacationed together. Yep. Right there. That's what I said. Andy said, that's a surprise. Angela said, I know, that's why we need to get to the reunion. So this has happened after they stopped filming. She said they have a rock solid marriage.

Kelli (37:24.526)
What?

Kelli (37:28.93)
See, this is what I mean.

Wendy (37:43.161)
So I want to see what happens at the reunion. I want to know what happened when Angela vacationed with Shamia and Gerald and Charles.

Kelli (37:54.86)
When did they vacation together? Before this season filmed?

Wendy (37:59.085)
No, I'm gonna say it had to be after the season films before the reunion.

No. Angela says she's throwing rocks at me when she wants to be throwing rocks at somebody else. And she's referring to Portia.

Kelli (38:13.954)
Yeah, but but An i the shit Angela's saying to her, it's because of Portia. It's because of Porsche.

Wendy (38:20.379)
So I am very much looking forward to the reunion. At first time looking forward to Scotland 'cause I I'm here for the Scotland thing. But after that I wanna see what has Angela and Shamia vacationing together.

Kelli (38:36.918)
Yeah, for sure.

Wendy (38:39.183)
Because Andy was just as surprised as you and I to hear that. Because I was like, Wait, what?

Kelli (38:45.602)
Wow.

Wendy (38:47.087)
Yeah.

Kelli (38:49.697)
Interesting.

Wendy (38:51.173)
Yeah, that's what I said. That's

Kelli (38:53.388)
Yeah, I'm I'm still gonna watch that. Just I mean, I love Charles Oakley so I'll watch that, but you know.

Wendy (38:58.383)
Yeah.

No, Angela's dress was everything. That that dress was everything. Yeah. So good.

Kelli (39:03.19)
No, was so good. It was so good. They were filmed walking out of there. I saw that before I saw clips from the Watch What Happens Live. Then walk into their vehicle coming out and somebody stopped her and they were like, Let's see your dress. So Yeah.

Wendy (39:20.101)
Yeah.

She wants so bad for him to be allowed back at MSG to support the Knicks. Like that is her goal. I

Kelli (39:28.514)
I mean of course especially now with the team they have, like listen, they've had some ebbs and flows, man. Ebbs and flows. Especially since ninety nine, especially since they were in it. That team, the Ewing, Oakley, Starks. But I mean this is this is the team to what like this right now you wanna be there. That it's like electric.

Wendy (39:41.987)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (39:50.073)
Yeah. And I'm here for it.

Kelli (39:51.126)
I love every interview with these guys with the, you know, Ananobi, Brunson, Hart. He's my new fave. But you know, there's such yeah, for sure. Which is interesting because he has wears the same number as John Starks, who is my OG fave. But they're so cute with each other, like the banter, the you know th just their camaraderie, the brotherhood. Yeah. Yeah. They're a fun team to watch.

Wendy (39:59.163)
Hearts, your new fave?

Wendy (40:14.821)
The Brotherhood. I mean that's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (40:21.294)
So Yeah. Well, I think that's it, right?

Wendy (40:26.683)
That's it.

Kelli (40:28.29)
Thank you for watching and listening. And please like, share, comment, engage, all the things. Five star reviews. Bye.

Wendy (40:35.045)
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