RHOA Season 17 Episode 16 Recap: Rum Bum Disaster & Drew's Wild Horse Surprise
Send us Fan Mail RHOA Season 17 Episode 16 Recap: Rum Bum Disaster & Drew's Wild Horse Surprise RHOA Season 17 Episodes 16 & 17 Recap: Rum Bum Blowups, HOA Horse Drama & Drew Hits the Floor The Real Housewives of Atlanta closed out Season 17 with two episodes packed with friendship breakups, business disasters, courtroom drama, and one unforgettable horse that just wouldn't stop causing problems. Episode 16, "Halloween Hot Pocket," kicks off with Shamea receiving devastating news ...
RHOA Season 17 Episode 16 Recap: Rum Bum Disaster & Drew's Wild Horse Surprise
RHOA Season 17 Episodes 16 & 17 Recap: Rum Bum Blowups, HOA Horse Drama & Drew Hits the Floor
The Real Housewives of Atlanta closed out Season 17 with two episodes packed with friendship breakups, business disasters, courtroom drama, and one unforgettable horse that just wouldn't stop causing problems.
Episode 16, "Halloween Hot Pocket," kicks off with Shamea receiving devastating news about her Rum Bum liquor business. Just before her highly anticipated launch party, she learns the latest contract no longer gives her ownership in the U.S. distribution, leaving her over six figures in debt while hosting a party celebrating a brand she technically doesn't own. Talk about bad timing.
The emotional fallout from Scotland continues throughout the episode. K. Michelle admits she no longer recognizes the Shamea she once knew, while Shamea reveals she's still grieving the end of her friendship with Porsha, comparing it to going through a divorce. Angela believes Shamea has hurt several people this season, while K. Michelle encourages her to focus on healing.
Meanwhile, Porsha delivers one of the season's sweetest moments by surprising her mother with a brand-new home, purchased entirely in cash. At the same time, she's navigating her growing relationship with Michael, who tells her he's in love and wants children—a future Porsha isn't sure she's ready for.
Drew stays busy with new acting opportunities before showing up fashionably late to Shamea's Rum Bum Halloween party dressed as a cowgirl. The costume party quickly turns into classic Housewives chaos when rumors surrounding Angela, Ashley, George and Jamir explode. George is brought into the party to deny the allegations himself, but the drama doesn't stop there.
Just when everyone thinks the night is winding down, Drew unveils a surprise horse at the party. She insists she didn't plan it, but no one believes her—and that decision comes back to haunt her in the finale.
Episode 17, "Rebels and Outlaws," picks up with the aftermath of Horse-gate. Shamea receives over $2,200 in HOA fines because of the horse and the mess it left behind, and she hands the paperwork directly to Drew during K. Michelle's country music listening party. Drew calls the move "performative," but Shamea reminds her that bringing a horse into a residential neighborhood wasn't exactly subtle either.
Away from the group drama, Drew continues fighting through her difficult divorce from Ralph. She's searching for a new home while waiting to learn whether she'll keep the marital residence, all while battling over custody. Kelli also prepares for an important court hearing involving child support and whether her children can appear on television. Phaedra, of course, offers legal advice along with one of her hilarious good luck gifts.
The finale also delivers heartfelt family moments. Drew celebrates her mother's 81st birthday, Angela shares an emotional conversation with her daughter about marriage, and Shamea meets the surrogate carrying her family's baby.
K. Michelle's country music listening party initially feels like a celebration, but Housewives peace never lasts long. Drew confronts K. Michelle over Blakk and alleged direct messages, accusing her of lying. During the heated confrontation, Drew falls while leaving the event and later claims someone pushed her down. Other cast members insist she simply tripped over her own pants, creating one final mystery before the credits roll.
The season wraps with updates on everyone's lives. Pinky moves beyond her financial struggles after filing for bankruptcy. Shamea launches a perfume business with Gerald before announcing they're expecting another child. Angela continues repairing her relationship with her daughter while Fangie grows in popularity. Kelli's ex is ultimately jailed for contempt over unpaid child support. Drew finalizes a difficult divorce settlement that includes leaving the marital home and paying child support. K. Michelle celebrates the release of her long-awaited country album, and Porsha confirms she's still happily dating Sway eight months later.
Overall, these final two episodes delivered exactly what Atlanta fans expect: messy friendships, emotional family moments, shocking confrontations, and enough unforgettable one-liners to carry us straight into reunion season.
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Kelli (00:00.817)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever I'm Kelly.
Wendy (00:03.79)
I'm Wendy.
Kelli (00:06.203)
tonight we're going to talk about Real Housewives of Atlanta season 17, episodes 16 and 17. before we do that, we'd like to ask you to please go to our YouTube and subscribe, our Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook and follow. And please give us five star reviews if you would. And thank you for your support. before we start, before we start on Atlanta, I had a great day.
I ran into the beautiful Rachel Fuda. She happens to have a shore house in the town that we live in. And I was lucky enough to run into her today. And she is so lovely. Just as beautiful in person as you would imagine. And I spoke to her for a few minutes and she's just lovely. I loved running into her. I told her we're gonna miss her on the show. I told her I'm not even interested in the show now that she and Danielle are gone, but that's fine. We'll make do. But yeah.
She's so lovely. So it was if you're listening, Rachel, it was lovely running into you. yeah, she's so sweet. the second thing I want to bring up is I'm sure you saw that we heard on the Real Housewives of OC last week that Vicky's son Mike had said that he hasn't seen his sister in eight years. They FaceTime, but he hasn't even met a couple of her kids. Now there's a rumor.
Wendy (01:05.036)
That's yeah, that's great. That's awesome.
Kelli (01:30.866)
I mean, I s I'm sure it's all over, but I saw, and I don't listen to Carlos King because I'm not a big fan, but I saw a clip of him speaking to Alexis Bellino. I guess they do a podcast together. where it is it's rumored, well, Carlos actually said this. It's rumored that Mike has said, Vicky's son has said, rumored allegedly, that they don't he doesn't speak to his sister really because of her husband, Ryan. So I
Wendy (01:43.81)
I don't trust Alexis.
Kelli (02:00.465)
tend to believe this. I mean, we saw his behavior on OC when Lydia's beautiful mom, may she rest in peace, lay down on Vicky's couch. I mean, he was off the rails. So I tend to believe that there's some something there. Something ain't right.
Wendy (02:23.522)
Yeah, no, you're I mean, I I listen, I'm not a fan of Carlos King's either or Alexis Bellino. but like we said last week, eight years is a long time not to see your only sister who's got four small children.
Kelli (02:39.207)
Yeah. Yeah, like I think that I I I forget where she lives, but I guess she never comes to California or Oklahoma. I think you're right. and I don't even think Vicky goes there often. Like it's always like an issue. I I don't know. This is all alleged and rumored. So but how
Wendy (02:46.21)
I think Oklahoma. I wanna say Oklahoma.
Wendy (02:58.174)
Yeah. I mean I hope that's not the case.
Kelli (03:01.179)
I hope so too, because I would just feel bad for Vicky. I mean, nobody ever wants their children to not get along or or to not see each other because of a sibling or a spouse. So I hope for the best for them. I hope they work it out. Because her both Vicky's children seem lovely, so I hope I hope they work it out. That's all. All right. Let's get into Atlanta. first we'll talk about episode 16.
Wendy (03:08.639)
No, absolutely not.
Wendy (03:15.68)
I agree. I totally agree.
Wendy (03:24.674)
Yeah, I do too.
Kelli (03:31.444)
Halloween hot pocket. and we are back in the ATL. Shemia goes to meet with Maximilian, her attorney, and in her confessional, she's asked to talk about Scotland and she basically shuts it down. Because we know how that ended for her. No, and I'm sure I'm sure she regrets saying what she re she said. Who wouldn't? You know?
Wendy (03:48.354)
Which is fine. We know what happened. Like we don't need her to talk about it. We saw it.
Wendy (03:58.583)
Yeah, I know, I know, but once it's out, it's out. Like you can't put the ketchup back in the bottle. You know, it is what it is.
Kelli (04:04.067)
No, exactly, exactly. Maximilian says that rum bum was a go up until this morning. And then the contract came in and it was more about Shamia like buying into the product, like not maybe necessarily being a partner. The Neckles family
Wendy (04:26.648)
So initi Yeah, initially they were supposed to be a stakeholder and the contract that came through said basically that they could purchase it at wholesale. That just means you're a distributor. That's not a partner.
Kelli (04:35.547)
Yeah. Exac right. Basically it sounds like they were just gonna use her name and ass, basically. So
Wendy (04:46.562)
I don't know that they wanted her ass because they weren't really big on the ass bottle. That was all her.
Kelli (04:51.161)
No, I know. And she already had half she says half the ladies have already gotten their bums molding. Molded. So she says she's in over six figures and they gotta figure something out. So we'll we'll see how that works out for them. I don't see it on the market yet though. So and this was a while ago. This was last October, so we're coming up on a year.
Wendy (04:59.437)
Yeah.
Wendy (05:17.492)
No, it's not it's not happening because when we see 'cause the next episode's a season finale and it says that it's not happening at the end when they do their t their end lines.
Kelli (05:31.601)
Yeah, so K Michelle is that goddess Mo, her yoga instructor with her husband, and then Angela and Charles show up, and they are doing this to bring intimacy and sexual healing. And K Michelle says Charles is an asshole, but she gets an asshole. I forgot she called him an asshole.
Wendy (05:50.198)
Yeah, yeah.
Kelli (05:51.836)
So the yoga instructor's telling them what to do and it's basically like, you know, you have your partner's like legs up in the air spread and Charles is not doing it right at all. Like I understand maybe he felt a little uncomfortable doing this on TV, but why'd you agree to go though?
Wendy (06:12.206)
So like they're doing I I wrote down like they're doing some sort of breathing and gazing exercises with their pr their partners, like I don't even know what that was. And honestly I s I wrote down I agree with Charles. Like I don't even know what that was either. Like I'm not even sure what that was. Like I don't know.
Kelli (06:28.465)
No, but at least like K Michelle's husband was like had her legs up spread like stretching her. Charles was not stretching Angela.
Wendy (06:34.944)
Yeah yeah, he ha he said put your legs he said put your feet on my legs and she's like that's not the way to do it. He's like, That's the way we're doing it. I don't blame him. I mean I thought it was a little I thought it was a little much, to be honest with you.
Kelli (06:41.136)
Yeah.
Nah. It was awkward. It was definitely awkward. To do on TV. You want to go do that with your husband? Fine, but on TV. So Angela asks Kay if she's spoken to Shamia, and she says no. And Kay doesn't think that that was normal for Shamia. Angela says Shamia is a professional victim. So Shamia's not gonna get any any grace from Angela, let's face it.
Wendy (06:53.431)
Yeah.
Wendy (07:12.802)
I don't know who Angela's giving grace to, to be honest with you. Maybe Portia, maybe Portia. And Portia doesn't need grace. Yeah. Just mm hmm.
Kelli (07:15.675)
Yeah, I agree. That's it, because she but because that's safe. Right. But that's safe to be on Porsche's team. Kay says she and Shamia have been disconnected since Scotland and she thinks Shamia feels left out and bullied and she feels hurt and Angela says she's the one hurting people. I mean what she said at the end, she did.
Wendy (07:37.229)
Yeah.
Kelli (07:41.995)
then we see Portia is doing a photo shoot with PJ. Super, super cute. And she's doing this so she could take down the pictures of she and Simon that are all over the house and put up the new pictures of her and Pilar.
Wendy (07:57.815)
Thought some of those pictures were a little odd. That she was like, Who does pictures like that? I'm like, Are you kidding?
Kelli (08:06.149)
I know. Maybe she's trying to get like a modeling gig for PJ. Who knows? She is.
Wendy (08:06.734)
I was just like
Know I don't know. I mean, listen, her daughter's beautiful, they're they're beautiful. I I like when Pilar told her to s to to what did she say? Suck your tummy in or something? Her err her belly was sicking out. I she was right, and then she sucked it in and it was gone.
Kelli (08:20.509)
Something about her something about her stomach.
Kelli (08:28.595)
Good advice, PJ. so Portia says she's put she's put herself in a box of being a wife. Well, yeah, because you were trying to marry Rich, Portia. And she wants to get back to herself. And she says that Mike is busy, so she's been swaying and she needs to decide who whose future aligns with hers the most.
Wendy (08:33.036)
Ha ha ha ha.
Kelli (08:58.653)
She says it's gonna be weird to see everybody since the trip. And Shamia asked Portia to mold her butt for her Halloween party, but obviously she did not do that. No. So right. Hers your stupid ass party or whatever she said. so then we get like a little bit like Pinky's in the studio with her daughter. Angela's at a photo shoot for Fangie.
Wendy (09:09.506)
That's not happening. That was not happening. She was not going. Let's just put that out there. She was not going. She's not going that party.
Kelli (09:27.495)
And she tells Charles that she needs the other half of the money from him. Then Phaedra's helping her son get dressed for something.
Wendy (09:31.758)
Mm.
Wendy (09:36.324)
my god, that was so cute. I love him. I really do love him. What about the cookie scent? She said, he smells like like a cookie scent. He says, that's exactly what I want to smell. Edible. I was like, my god, he's so cute. So cute.
Kelli (09:38.065)
That was cute. I know. Yeah, she's
Kelli (09:48.979)
Ha
Kelli (09:53.876)
He's adorable. so Kay shows up at Apartment Fort B meeting Shamia, a restaurant. And Kay asks Shamia if she thinks there was bonding or separation in Scotland. And Shamia says, I thought I was fighting for my life. And Kay says she doesn't see the fun loving Shamia anymore. And when it comes to Portia in Scotland, you came really low, really fast out of nowhere. And
Shemia talks about the text that Portia put out, Trash and Shamia's mom. Not text, like a post, Trash and Shamia's mom. And they had agreed years ago not to talk about the mom stuff. Shamia says she's going to therapy to navigate this group. And Kay says you can meet wrong with wrong. But sh but Shamia says, When I don't do that, I'm I'm still in the wrong. I'm still effed, is basically what she said. And then she says, I'm done. She says she said, I got it. I'm done.
Wendy (10:29.39)
Mm.
Wendy (10:53.922)
She also said that she feels like this is divorce, a divorce between her and Portia. Like they were best friends. They were best friends. And I agree. I I really honestly am heartbroken for both of them. And from everything I've seen, after the reunion and out there, I don't think that this is reparable. And that's sad. It's sad.
Kelli (10:57.489)
Yeah, I mean I for sure. Since like middle school.
Kelli (11:17.831)
I mean they talked about each other's moms. That's
Wendy (11:20.866)
I know. I n but they both did it. So they both did it. So
Kelli (11:23.225)
I I totally agree. They both did it. And quite honestly, Portia did it first.
Wendy (11:28.406)
Exactly, one hundred percent. But she is forgiv like like Shamia said. Like Portia will be forgiven, but Shamia will not. And that's that's the sad part. That's really the sad part.
Kelli (11:31.027)
So
Kelli (11:40.2)
Yep. Yeah. Shamia did invite Portia to her party, and Portia responded with girl, I'm not coming to your dumbass party. You are sick as fuck. Please move along. I mean, she she c she could have just said, I'm busy. But all right. And Shamia says at this point, she's good. Kay says she can't come to the party. God said she cannot go. She's never celebrated Halloween. She is a Christian Methodist Episcopalian.
That's a lot of Christianity right there. That's that's a big ball of Christianity. And Shamia didn't s Shamia's like I didn't celebrate Halloween growing up either. It's funny because I you know, we're Catholics, so I I I mean, I get I'm sure there are Catholics out there that didn't celebrate Halloween, but we always did.
Wendy (12:11.928)
There is a whole lot going on.
Wendy (12:16.556)
Yes, it is.
Wendy (12:29.538)
I know, it is kind of demonic a little bit, right? It is. But that's not how we celebrate it. I mean, you know, we're being smurfs and, you know, we're not being these evil Yes, and get the candy. How about the candy? Yes. Yes.
Kelli (12:33.563)
Yes. It yeah. I mean it's definitely the meaning behind it. No. Yes. I just wanted to put my plastic costume on and the big ass plastic mask that I couldn't breathe through. Yeah.
Drew is at her stage play practice for The Whispers and she's practicing with Derwin, who is her old cast member from the game. She says Ralph is fighting for full custody, I'm sure, so he can stay in
Wendy (13:06.894)
Excuse me. Did you know that she's like in like a theater kind of sitting in theater seating and he is in his car practicing his lines with her? He's in his car. Okay. I was like, what is going on here?
Kelli (13:19.153)
Yes.
Kelli (13:24.285)
Well, it's probably all fake, Wendy. Everything Drew does is phony baloney. So she probably texts this guy and was like, listen, I need you to do me a solid. I need you to get on FaceTime right now and pretend that we're practicing lines for this fake ass play that I'm doing. That's not even happening. then she says she has another movie with Robert Richard. So Drew likes to tell us everything she's got going on, right? But we never say it.
Wendy (13:26.99)
Okay.
That's it.
Wendy (13:40.172)
Yeah. Yeah.
Wendy (13:52.706)
Who is Robert Richard? Are we supposed to know who that is?
Kelli (13:54.662)
I guess I mean, I'm sure some people know who he is. I'm sure if we saw him, we'd probably know who he is, but I don't know that name. And you think a name like Robert Richard, you'd know. Portia takes Miss Diane to her new home and that she has bought and paid for cash. And God bless her for it. Because that's huge. Buying your mom, your parent.
Wendy (13:58.284)
I don't know who that is.
Yeah.
Wendy (14:04.654)
Richard, yeah, you would think.
Wendy (14:18.498)
Right. That's huge. And you know what is mhm. Yeah.
Kelli (14:22.203)
A house cash and being like here you go, and that was a beautiful home.
Wendy (14:26.678)
It was a beautiful home. She appreciates her mom and all the sacrifices that she made for her. And as much as we don't like Portia, you cannot take that away from her. That was a smart move to sell the other house, get the equity out of it, because there was a mortgage on it, and pay for this one in cash. So no matter what happens, her mama will always have a place to live. And I so love this and I also love that she had Dennis there. As much as, you know.
Kelli (14:31.389)
Mm-hmm.
Kelli (14:35.459)
No, you can't.
Kelli (14:41.757)
Mm-hmm.
Kelli (14:54.375)
Yeah, and and he was very appreciative that that she invited him. Yeah.
Wendy (14:56.45)
Her mom loves Dennis? Yeah. I agree. Like, yeah.
Kelli (15:03.229)
So now we're at Shamia's party. I I have to say I think that Shamia looked amazing in that Avatar costume. So good. I mean, I know Sierra did it first on Summer House, but Shamia looked amazing. Shamia's, you know, it's it's basically a rum bum kind of launch Halloween party. And she's still hopeful that a deal will happen.
Wendy (15:12.75)
She did. She did. It's absolutely
Kelli (15:32.743)
Gerald liked the rum. He tried it. He liked it. Cynthia came as glue, because she's the glue that's holding the group together. Love that. Pinky was a zombie. Yeah. And Pinky was a zombie and she said that her costume's given the energy in the friend group. Dead.
Wendy (15:43.288)
She is
Wendy (15:51.522)
Yeah, and so is Derek. Her husband was also a zombie.
Kelli (15:54.78)
Yeah. Shamia says everyone said they were coming except the big old fuck you one. and then we cut to Portia bowling with Mike and Kay Michelle and her husband. Portia said Jesus said no to Shamia's party and Kay tells Portia that she saw her text to Shamia. you know, they Yeah, I mean we'll get get over it, Portia, because you sent the text, so
Wendy (16:09.294)
Mm-hmm.
Wendy (16:17.774)
And Porsche's pissed about that.
Wendy (16:23.414)
Right. Right.
Kelli (16:24.977)
You don't I tell my kids all the time, don't put it in writing. Kay asks Mike how he's treating her friend and he gives her a kiss. Mike says he's in love with Portia. And Porsche's like, What'd he say? And Kay repeats it. And Portia's a little turned off at the fact that he didn't tell her that alone, and she said it in front of Kay and her husband, which obviously Mike was not in love with Portia, and Mike was just there.
Wendy (16:39.278)
Mm-hmm.
Kelli (16:54.941)
For poor should I have a storyline?
Wendy (16:57.442)
You don't think Mike you don't think you don't think Mike
Kelli (16:59.939)
No, and you know why? He's been on other reality T V shows. That's the only reason. If if if if nobody ever had seen Mike before and he hadn't been on reality TV before, I would have one hundred percent believed this. But knowing that
Wendy (17:04.073)
Okay.
Wendy (17:14.944)
No, I didn't know that. Okay.
Kelli (17:17.009)
Yeah. Mike asks Portia where she thinks they are headed and she says she feels like they can talk about the overall a little later. Like she's not having the conversation in front of Kay Michelle and her husband. And I don't blame her either. I don't blame her either. Kay and Portia are alone at the table and Portia says it's hard because she's dating someone else too. And she says she really likes Mike, but she saw a different side of him today.
Wendy (17:32.056)
Blame her. She shouldn't.
Kelli (17:49.02)
then we are back at Shamia's party. The ladies are taste testing the rum bum and Phaedra showed up as the godfather. I thought that was really good. That was really, really good. But Cynthia said it's giving Don Corleone with a splash of James Brown.
Wendy (17:58.191)
That was great. I loved it. Loved it, loved it, loved it.
Wendy (18:09.015)
she's she wasn't wrong. She really wasn't.
Kelli (18:11.655)
She wasn't wrong and I love that because my my grandpa my grandpa's Ezarino loved James Brown. So I'm I'm like well like very familiar and I thought that was great. Kelly showed up was she Wonder Woman? Kelly? Like a very elaborate Wonder Woman costume.
Wendy (18:26.924)
Yeah, she was Wonder Woman. Yeah. Yes, yes. I thought she looked great.
Kelli (18:33.435)
She did, she's cute. And Jarvis was with her so I guess Jarvis is the one who bought her the teeth.
Wendy (18:38.902)
Yes, he's the boyfriend who does she doesn't want him to be seen, so he had on a full mask.
Kelli (18:44.517)
Yeah. And Phaedra says she's glad she's seen him off camera. He's a very handsome man, but she doesn't know why he's hiding his face. And n and then Kelly we cut to Kelly in her confessional basically saying she's protecting him. And I I don't blame her. Her ex sounds a little crazy.
Wendy (19:00.59)
I do not blame her either. One hundred percent she needs to protect him.
Kelli (19:04.901)
Yeah. So Drew shows up and then we meet Ashley and George.
Wendy (19:11.596)
Yes.
Kelli (19:12.808)
doctor Caston shows up and then all of a sudden we see Kay Michelle. So her husband
Wendy (19:18.252)
Yeah, so when Dr. Caston showed up, I was like, my god, he went without her. And then and then she was there. And you know what I think is very strange? Why do we not know his first name? Why do we only know him as Dr. Caston? I do not know this man's first name. He's not my doctor. I'm not calling him Dr. Caston. I'm sorry. What is his name?
Kelli (19:22.375)
That's what I was thinking.
Kelli (19:32.775)
I don't I don't know and
But the thing is, is like it's not like we can't Google him and find out who he is. We know where he practices and he's Dr. K like I don't understand. Right. Right.
Wendy (19:44.812)
He's a dentist He's not my dentist
No, I mean unless is Caston.
Kelli (19:51.144)
You're always supposed you're always supposed to refer to a doctor as doctor though, because when we moved into the house I grew up in, we moved next door to the Sportellis, I'm just gonna say it. And Doctor Sportelli, the father, was a doctor.
Wendy (20:06.71)
I don't think I don't think I don't think they're watching. wasn't he in OBGYN?
Kelli (20:12.197)
He was. And my I went to play with Elena next door one day and I think my mom called there or anyway he answered the phone and she said, Hi, is this Mr. Sportelli? and he said, Doctor Sportelli. He corrected her. He said, You always you always refer to a doctor as a doctor.
Wendy (20:13.645)
Yeah.
Wendy (20:29.144)
He corrected her. just stop it right now. That is insanity.
Kelli (20:31.345)
I swear to God. May he rest in peace. But but as you could imagine, didn't set a great tone for the friendship in the neighborhood from that day on. Cause you know how my mother is and she don't like to be corrected. No.
Wendy (20:41.3)
No, did not. But listen, I will just say this.
Rosie don't play. what I was gonna say is he's a dentist. So I have always referred to my dentist as Dr. First Name. Dr. Jack, Dr. John. So maybe Kasten is his first name.
Kelli (20:56.763)
Kelli (21:01.691)
baby casten is his first name. I've never done that though. I've o d dentist I've always said doctor in the last name. But but you're right, maybe Caston's his first name.
Wendy (21:04.182)
Right?
Wendy (21:11.81)
Well, now that I think about it though, the dentist that I went to was all in the family and they all had the same last name. So we always referred to them as doctor in their first name because it would have been
Kelli (21:19.72)
that's
They were all Doctor So and So, if you went with the last name.
Wendy (21:23.854)
Exactly. Exactly.
Kelli (21:28.507)
Well that makes sense.
Wendy (21:30.392)
So we don't know, we don't know what his name is, but whatever.
Kelli (21:33.819)
No, but listen, I like him because he encouraged Kay to go to Shamia's party. I thought that was really nice. That he was like, No, you have to go support her and let's face it, it's more airtime.
Wendy (21:40.814)
And she went.
Mm-hmm.
Kelli (21:45.32)
Shamia apologizes for making anyone feel uncomfortable in Scotland. And Drew in her confessional says the apology doesn't land and it really needs to be directed at Portia. Look who the lap dog is now, Drew. Shamia says she invited Portia and she responded a certain way. Drew says it was a whole new low and they don't want to see it go deeper. Kelly says, but
It was not okay when Angela said Shamia was sleeping with George. While all the while George's wife, Ashley, is sitting there. So Ashley yeah, gives her side of the story. Yes, Justice Tinkerbell. And what was he? the the guy from the was it the Joker? I know it was the guy from I think he was the Riddler. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Either way, they were both in Lime Green.
Wendy (22:22.368)
Right next to her. Dressed as Tlinkerbell.
Wendy (22:29.965)
The Joker.
Or the Riddler.
Kelli (22:40.655)
She said, Ashley said, Angela asked her, this is this is this is interest like Ashley Angela asked her if she and Shamia were cool. And Ashley said, Yeah, we're cool. And Ashley said, Well, I just need some tea on her. And then as as Ashley's saying that, Angela walks into the party. And Shamia says, We're talking about why Angela, you were doing an investigation on me.
So Ashley says Angela called her looking for some tea and she had no tea to give, and then Angela also used her husband's name and something else that was false. Angela says
Wendy (23:19.692)
All right, can we just stop for one second? I just this is where this is where I'm so confused about this whole George situation. So, first of all, when it comes out that Angela said that Shamia slept with George, right? Everyone was referring to him as the man with the green beard. And I thought that this man just had a green beard for whatever reason, but it turns out
Kelli (23:25.191)
Yes, totally agree.
Wendy (23:46.701)
He had the green beard because it was at the Halloween party, which is at the end of this season. So this timing of this whole season doesn't make sense because they yes, because his his character was green. So why for first of all, my first question is when when they said the guy with the green beard, I'm like, why would somebody have a green beard? Like this makes no sense, right? But
Kelli (23:59.144)
Was he wearing a green beard at the party?
Kelli (24:05.627)
I didn't catch that.
Wendy (24:16.342)
He had the green beard at the Halloween party. So does he always have a green beard? I know, I know.
Kelli (24:20.339)
But but they were referencing Scotland. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering, because they were referencing Scotland, so it had to have already happened. 'Cause we know at productions sometimes they flip things around, but at this Halloween party they were re referencing Scotland, so it had to have already happened.
Wendy (24:27.8)
But no, they
But that's what I'm t
Wendy (24:35.968)
I I know, but that's what I'm saying. Like it just to me it doesn't make sense and it doesn't add up. Like why? First of all, why would his beard be green if it wasn't Halloween? Like that was I mean, when they were talking about the man with the green beard, I was like, what? Like why?
Kelli (24:45.649)
I don't know.
Kelli (24:54.621)
Well, this is what confused me. Angela says Angela says you said that Shamia said that I said you said I said she was fucking your husband. And Pinky's like, this is a big old game of telephone and I am too drunk to follow. I wasn't drunk. Despite the fact that somebody on YouTube keeps calling me a drunk. I am not. I was not drunk. One of the people on YouTube that always like hates on us a little bit.
Wendy (24:57.218)
I mean it all confuses me.
Wendy (25:04.547)
Mm-hmm.
Wendy (25:17.57)
You were not who's calling you a drunk? You were not drunk.
Wendy (25:24.321)
Ever, who cares?
Kelli (25:25.297)
Yeah, that's fine. I'm good. I'm cool. but yeah, I'm like, wait, what did Angela just said? Angela says, You said Shamia said that I said that you said that I said she was fucking your husband.
Wendy (25:40.812)
And then Drew said and Drew's like, okay, so Angela's vindicated. Wait, wait.
Kelli (25:44.786)
Yeah, th that which made zero sense. Because no. Yeah, because then Angela and Kelly start throwing shade at each other, and then Ashley says it's a complete lie that Shamia and George had a sexual relationship. And then An this is why th I think this is why Drew said that. Angela says, I said it preceded you. I meant it preceded you, Ashley. Like they slept together before he was with Ashley. And I think that that's
Wendy (25:48.214)
Angela was never been decated.
No.
Kelli (26:12.967)
When Drew said she was vindicated, but then George rolls up and Angela repeats that George said he had to pay Shamia. And George says that was a joke. And Drew says Angela was vindicated, but she was not. Ashley says he has never been in her hot pocket. That's where the Halloween hot pocket came from.
So basically George said he had to pay Shamia because it was a charity event and she put it t no, it was a team building event for his company. That's why she had to get paid. She put together a team building event. Right. So Fra Phaedra's like, can we just agree that this is now tabled? and Shamia says, I don't need to call around to get tea on anymore.
Wendy (26:38.327)
Exactly.
Wendy (26:46.796)
Right. Right. Right.
Kelli (27:00.017)
So then they start to match the bum to the housewife.
Wendy (27:05.708)
Right, they go outside, right, to match the mold bum to the housewife.
Kelli (27:10.631)
Yes. And then so the first ass we find out is Pinky's. The second ass is Kelly's. And then the we're on the third ass and we think it's Drew's. And then Gerald comes up and interrupts and is like, I just need to interrupt because I need to show you something. And he brings Shamia down and we think he's giving her another vehicle. But instead, it's that creepy guy, Terry, that
Wendy (27:31.746)
Yeah, we don't know what's going on.
Kelli (27:36.914)
Drew was supposed to go on a date with because her hairdresser set it up, and the guy doesn't even or he showed up and he left. And he I think they said he left. He was there and then he left. And then Kay says, Kay's like, she rented out the horse and Terry. And Kay says, Drew needs to better produce. And Kay, I could not agree with you more. She is horrible at this housewife stuff. She
Wendy (27:40.972)
Walter Right. Or he didn't show up.
Wendy (27:49.847)
Okay, that's weird.
Wendy (28:01.208)
She absolutely s she definitely needs to better produce. And then the and then the
Kelli (28:05.381)
She's fumbling this as much as Janet's fumbling the valley, man.
Wendy (28:09.334)
Like so she was supposed to be cowboy Carter and Terry rolled up as a fake Jay-Z. I mean, come on. It's It's so bad.
Kelli (28:18.979)
Right. Y yeah. It's bad. Yep. And that guy's cr I'm sorry, he I don't like to say that about people, but he's a little creepy.
Wendy (28:28.812)
He is. And then Drew's like, I had no idea. Like I didn't know that they were coming. Like this is no, I had nothing to do with this. How no? And everyone's like, Come on, Drew. We are smarter than that.
Kelli (28:37.267)
Stop it. Stop it, stop it, stop it. We are way smarter than that. We've been doing this a long time, Drew. We've been doing this a long time, girl. All right, so that ends episode sixteen. Now we're on episode seventeen. Thank you, Jesus, the season finale.
Wendy (28:44.258)
Yeah.
Kelli (28:55.013)
Rebels and outlaws.
Wendy (28:56.78)
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Kelli (29:18.109)
Thank you. we open up with a go naked photo shoot with Portia, Drew, and Cynthia. I actually really liked this, even though I don't like Drew and I barely like Portia, but I love Cynthia and I love the pictures. I thought they looked great. Yeah. Pinky's meeting with her team and and announces that she signed franchises for Vegas and DC. Amazing. Good for her.
Wendy (29:27.264)
I do too. I do too.
I loved it, honestly. They looked great. I did too.
Wendy (29:44.984)
Mm-hmm.
Kelli (29:46.558)
K is getting ready for her glistening session for her big event. She is the only I didn't fact check this, but she's saying it, so I'm believing her. She is the only African American woman to sign a major label in Nashville. That's a huge accomplishment.
Wendy (30:02.23)
It is. I yeah, it is.
Kelli (30:04.591)
Yeah. Pinky has Delia. Is that her is that how you pronounce her name? Her beautiful little daughter. Diela. Diella. Okay. I always I'm Italian. I like to throw vowels in there all the time. Diela, she's got her out of pumpkin patch and Shamia shows up with her kids and then K Michelle shows up too. So Delis Delis is Shiloh's nurse, she's there too.
Wendy (30:10.264)
D Di Ella, Diella. I think it's Di Ella, Diella, yeah.
Wendy (30:18.816)
I get it.
Kelli (30:34.653)
They're going through a creepy forest and then the ladies sit down at the end and Pinky says every time Angela was talking, Drew would t like stick up for her. Which listen, we've said this before. Drew and Angela Angela kinda came on as Drew's friend. They're both from Chai Town. They're gonna they're gonna have each other's back. That's fine. Listen, it is what it is.
Wendy (30:52.372)
Exact that's what it is. That's it. That's it.
I was surprised though to hear Shamie got a fine for her from her HOA for the horse poop, but not as surprised as I was to see the amount of the fine. That was twenty two hundred dollars. That's a lot of money. listen, it doesn't surprise me 'cause those HOAs, they take that stuff seriously.
Kelli (31:07.783)
How much was it?
Twenty two hundred hours, yeah.
Kelli (31:17.671)
And that's a b I mean, think about the neighborhood she's living in. I mean, that that that's a nice neighborhood.
Wendy (31:20.68)
I know. I mean it's called more manor, right? We learned that the very first season.
Kelli (31:26.929)
I think that was Ken that was Kenya's house. Shamia's is more in something. More in something.
Wendy (31:30.554)
wait, what's Shemia Morton? Morton Manor. It's it's Morton Manor. 'Cause I remember the first time Cynthia went there on her first season on the first episode. She's like, We didn't we don't even have an address, we're just showing up at Morton Manor.
Kelli (31:44.892)
Yeah, yeah. They called it something, Morton something. Shamia says she's dodging bullets and Pinky says there's a lot of tit for tat. And then they start talking about the horse and then Shamia says she you know, she got the the fine. And Shamia says she's standing ten toes down on what she thinks is big, and Kay says she wants to have something where everyone is there and it's for her album. So she's inviting everybody.
And then Drew goes to see a house with her mom and Katrina, her realtor, and she's over living with Ralph. They have to go before the judge again to see who was getting the marital home. And she's just preparing herself for that. did you see the bla the backsplash in that kitchen? The backsplash was nice. I
Wendy (32:28.214)
No, I didn't. I just noted that it was seventy five hundred square feet and one point three five million.
Kelli (32:36.709)
Yeah. Yeah.
Wendy (32:38.242)
That's a big house. That's a big house.
Kelli (32:41.403)
Yeah, I mean I you know, I wonder if Drew can swing that without selling the other one, but whatever. You do you, Drew. That's what I'm saying. So can she even like buy the I guess she could buy anything with a mortgage. Yeah. Drew's mom's turning eighty one. She don't look it, that's for sure. Dre she does look good. Drew says Ralph wants full custody and she now has to show all of the flights she has taken.
Wendy (32:47.864)
Well she can't sell the other one. She doesn't own the other one. It's gonna
Wendy (32:55.576)
That's it.
Wendy (33:01.656)
She looks great. No, she looks great.
Kelli (33:10.193)
since twenty twenty three to track her time so it could I'm assuming so it could possibly show that like if she was actually working when she said she was. Yeah. and then Drew's yeah. Drew starts to cry. yeah, like lover or hater. I don't like to s I don't like to see this because her kids are involved.
Wendy (33:19.054)
Actually working. Right. That's crazy.
Wendy (33:30.99)
No, it's heartbreaking.
Kelli (33:36.103)
Like, what is this going to prove on national television that she wasn't really working and she just chose to not be around her kids? Her kids are going to see this someday. I I don't like that.
Wendy (33:44.375)
Yeah. And there's two kids with Ralph and then she has her other son, right? So that he never adopted. So whatever's gonna happen, she's gonna have the other son. And it's just it's it's awkward and it's sad. It's sad.
Kelli (33:59.666)
Yeah. Yeah. Then we see Phaedra's in her conference room with her team and she says Kelly's coming in to meet and because her court date is approaching. The judge has set a
Wendy (34:10.478)
She's got a team. I was surprised how many people were around that table.
Kelli (34:15.099)
Well, I mean it's a I think she I I don't think it's only her. I don't think she's like a sole proprietor. I think she's part of a firm. So she probably just walked through the halls and was like, Who wants to film? Sign this release and meet me in the conference room. And whoever was dressed the best that day, they were like, I'll do it. Yeah.
Wendy (34:34.574)
They were like, okay, you're in. So I listen, whether that's the case or not, the fact that she is doing this for Kelly for free is huge. Because Kelly does not have the money to do this. And honestly, I the this is what I like about you know, I know people do not like Phaedra because of what happened between her and Candy. But I have always liked her. I know that she made a mistake. I don't know if you've seen this, but supposedly it's out there that Candy
Kelli (34:41.318)
yeah. yeah.
Kelli (34:45.947)
No.
Wendy (35:02.474)
would like to come back, but she will not come back as long as Phaedra's there. Have you seen that?
Kelli (35:07.261)
Well, I always assumed no, I always assumed that Phaedra was only back on because Candy left. But listen, Candy, listen, I love Candy, but you left and now Phaedra's on. I certainly don't think that they should kick Phaedra off now to bring Candy back. I don't think they should have brought Phaedra back anyway because what she said, those allegations to me were extremely serious and damaging and but they brought her but it
Wendy (35:13.858)
Candy was gone, yeah.
Kelli (35:33.147)
Whether I like it or not, they brought her back, and they're certainly not gonna kick her off now so Candy can come back.
Wendy (35:35.82)
Right.
Wendy (35:39.766)
I don't know, we'll have to wait and see.
Kelli (35:40.135)
I mean I'd say give Candy her own show, but they've tried that and it didn't work. But that's also because they put her mother and her aunts on who are super annoying. Sorry. I cannot stand Mama Joyce. I I that was the worst part about Candy being on this show.
Wendy (35:44.032)
Yeah, but I did just
Wendy (35:51.384)
Listen.
Is Mama Joyce. But I don't know if you've seen everything that's going on between Candy and Tamar. Braxton?
Kelli (36:00.882)
A little bit. What is that? Is it over music?
Wendy (36:04.566)
So I guess d I don't know that it's so much over music or that she likes I don't know if she's the one that started the but supposedly there was some rumor started about Todd and that Todd being with a man.
Kelli (36:16.433)
Well that makes more sense than a being but
Wendy (36:19.604)
Yes, yes. And yes, yes. I listen again. I don't know. I'm just I'm just saying what the streets are saying. I don't know what's true, and I don't know I don't know what's not true. But there is some beef going on between Candy and Tamar. We are not We are not the people to break that down. I'm just gonna put it out there. These are all allegations. I don't know what's going on. But
Kelli (36:30.535)
That's interesting.
Kelli (36:37.041)
I've sine I've seen clips.
Kelli (36:46.483)
Tamar is feisty.
Wendy (36:49.454)
S you don't think candy is?
Kelli (36:52.131)
I know, but I'm just saying I think Tamar might be a little bit more feisty. I don't know. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to look into this. That's interesting.
Wendy (37:00.11)
Alright, look into it and I'm gonna just say I like Phaedra on the show. I I I did like Candy, but I like Phaedra more. And I know what she did was wrong, but I'm sorry, I still like Phaedra more. And even as much as I don't like Drew, I still like Drew and I still can't tell you why I like Drew. Because she does a lot of effed up stuff.
Kelli (37:18.375)
Favorite on the show this season. I like her better on the show this season than I did last season. I think she came in with a plan last season. This season, I think she's trying to be more like a Cynthia, and I actually like seeing it. So like I said, I don't think they should have let her back, but they did. So she's here and I'm enjoying her. Drew is phony baloney. Nothing that comes out of that girl's mouth is true.
Wendy (37:30.392)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Wendy (37:38.19)
She has I again she is, but I I don't know what it is about her that I like. And I will just also say this, I really like her more as a blonde than I do as a brunette. I d I don't know why.
Kelli (37:49.171)
She does listen, she looks great as a blonde. I love Phaedra with the red hair.
Wendy (37:55.637)
ph honestly, I love Phaedra in every color hair. Phaedra can pull off anything. She can, just like Cynthia. Cynthia's the other one. Yep, she can pull them all off too. All right. I'm sorry, I just got sidetracked. I just had to go down there.
Kelli (37:58.686)
Fader can pull off all the hairdoes, yeah. Like Cynthia. Cynthia yep. Yes. For sure.
No, listen, we we always do. the judge, Phaedra says the judge has set a special hearing and they're and they're gonna prep Kelly for it. So they're focusing on two things, the children being able to film and the child support arrears. Those are the two main main things to focus on. So Kelly arrives and she says that her ex has put her in a compromising position with her kids and financially.
She's having very bad anxiety about seeing him and she just wants to get it over with. again, I don't like to see anybody go through this because again, her kids someday are gonna see this and their whole lives are being put on blast by their parents.
Wendy (38:44.885)
No, I don't either.
Wendy (38:52.759)
Now I agree.
Kelli (38:54.995)
Phaedra excuses her team and two of them stay back. Kelly thinks thanks her for taking this on and having her back. And Phaedra's like, listen, I know how this goes. I went through a horrible divorce, and then she gives her a present, which was a bra. So I I mean, obviously Kelly must have fake boobs implants.
Wendy (39:21.066)
No no Kelly's boobs are real. Kelly does not wear a bra, and that is everyone's problem with Kelly. I'm almost I'm almost positive they're real because if they weren't real they'd be up higher.
Kelli (39:25.841)
And her boobs are real?
Kelli (39:31.015)
Because mine are real and they're very big and I can I cannot not wear a bra. I don't wear I don't sleep with one on, but as soon as I wake up, that's the first thing I do is put a bra on because I can't even walk around my own house without a bra.
Wendy (39:44.717)
Well, K when Kelly gets it, she's like, Okay, well, I'll I'll wear this if we win and no Phaedra's No, no, no, you need to wear it so we we do win and Kelly's You I don't wear a bra and she's like, That is the point. Everyone has said that Kelly does not wear a bra, and they want Kelly wearing a bra. And honestly, I want Kelly wearing a bra too. I don't know if they're I think they're real. I don't know if they're real or they're not. She's younger. I don't know. I don't know.
Kelli (40:04.943)
I want Kelly wearing a bra.
It doesn't really matter. I just assume that they were implants because they stand up on their own. I mean she's no young chippy, but maybe they don't. Right. Okay. All right. So now Drew's having a birthday party for her mom. She had asked Ralph if she could have the party at her house, and he said no, so she had to get an Airbnb. A little fucked up.
Wendy (40:14.796)
Well they don't really though. No, right. Mm-hmm.
Wendy (40:31.086)
Pastor Jeanette. Pastor Jeanette.
Kelli (40:33.915)
Yeah. Phaedra, Portia, and Angela show up for the party. I'm surprised Cynthia wasn't there. Phaedra
Wendy (40:38.814)
boy. What about their therapist, doctor Ken showing up? How what? How inappropriate? How inappropriate
Kelli (40:46.451)
yeah. Yeah, so yeah, so they go downstairs. So Drew says that Terry ter the creepy guy Terry called her to apologize for standing her up. And Portia's well now you gotta go on another date with him. And she's No, Terry's benched. And then they go downstairs for a drink. And Dr. Ken, Drew's therapist, comes down to say hi, gives Phaedra
A very long hug. I don't like that. Very weird. And then doesn't seem to want to let go. And then he tells Portia he'll counsel her next marriage. And Portia asks him if he's married, and he says, Why you in my business? Why you in her business?
Wendy (41:18.178)
Weird Weird AF.
Wendy (41:34.85)
Listen, I I have never ever in my life and I've been to therapy, I've seen many therapists, I have family members who've been to therapy. You never invite a therapist to a personal setting. That is the most inappropriate thing.
Kelli (41:36.467)
The fuck was that?
Kelli (41:55.858)
I believe this man is probably not a therapist. Again, nothing Drew says or does is real. So this man is probably her dog groomer. It's probably her dog groomer.
Wendy (42:02.112)
Okay. Well then that makes sense.
Wendy (42:11.022)
Okay, that works then. That works. That totally works.
Kelli (42:11.581)
'Cause nothing she says is true. Yeah.
yeah. So Black shows up at the party and her mom is like, my god, he's a real person. So this must be the first time her mom's meeting him too.
Wendy (42:27.478)
Nobody rolls up wearing a jersey. What? I mean, yeah. Yeah, he d I don't know. It was not a like a a team jersey. It was just a generic jersey. Who rolls up at a party?
Kelli (42:31.121)
I didn't even clock that yet, did he?
Kelli (42:41.432)
Like he just came from like a pickup basketball game?
Wendy (42:45.248)
I mean I don't like
Kelli (42:47.699)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Drew says they're still friends and they talk on the phone, but they both have a lot going on. So then Drew's like, I'm gonna play my new song, but it basically sounded like a birthday song, didn't it? Wasn't it Happy Birthday, happy birthday? So is that her new song?
Wendy (42:48.472)
D class A. That's all I'm gonna say. D class A.
Wendy (43:03.534)
Mm-hmm.
That's what I thought o I I mean I d I was confused about that too. I don't have no idea.
Kelli (43:11.879)
God. So then we see then we see Shamia's surrogate Daphne shows up to her house and Gerald's there. He's never met her before. So Shamia wanted her to come meet the family before the transfer. They're excited, but there's only one male embryo left. Daphne received the news yesterday that she has the green light to go forward with the transfer and
Wendy (43:22.616)
That blew my mind.
Kelli (43:34.994)
And Gerald says, we're here for you for whatever you need. And then he leaves the room as fast as he can. Gerald does not want to be on camera, people. And I I I actually respect that about him. Listen, you know how I feel. The Jersey husbands, John Fuda, Joe Gorga, Frank Catania, Joe Benigno, put them on my screen. I'll watch it every night. But the rest of these Housewives show, they just don't have it. So
Wendy (43:46.786)
I do too. I do too.
Wendy (44:02.476)
Nate Cara.
Kelli (44:03.035)
If this guy yeah, if this guy doesn't want to be on camera, let him go. Yeah. Shamia tells Daphne about their journey. She says it's all in God's plan, but she's scared. And Daphne says, We just have to continue praying. And Shamia says her husband is so good to her in her confessional. She's like, He's so good to me. I just want to give him everything he wants. I really feel like like she and Gerald seem so solid, right?
Wendy (44:05.388)
Yeah. I agree I totally agree.
Wendy (44:29.268)
I feel like that too, but it's so weird because everyone wants us to think otherwise.
Kelli (44:34.851)
I know and I don't get it. I don't get it.
Wendy (44:37.068)
I don't get it either. I don't either.
Kelli (44:40.359)
Yeah. I think they seem solid. And the fact that he doesn't want to be on camera, like I love that Charles likes to be on camera sometimes 'cause I love Charles Oakley, but you know, I I respect he de definitely does.
Wendy (44:42.678)
I do too. I love that.
Wendy (44:49.612)
He does it on his terms. Charles Oakley is on camera on his terms. And honestly, there's not a lot of men that can do it on their terms, but he is one of them. And let's let it let's let it happen.
Kelli (44:55.25)
That's right.
Kelli (44:58.931)
Mm. Like you tell him a yoga pose, he's doing his own damn yoga pose. Right.
Wendy (45:03.788)
He's doing what he wants to do, right? You tell him you're showing up for this fanji shoot, he's gonna do what he wants to do with the fangy chute. He you tell him he's showing up for a family dinner, he's gonna do what he w We'll get there. But I love that family dinner. We'll wait until we get there. But I love that. Yeah.
Kelli (45:18.233)
yeah, me too. Yeah. So Sway shows up at Porsche's house and now she's described she's now she's described as her lady friend. Portia wants to be intentional and honest with herself and not date all of Atlanta and just focus on the two she's got. So Portia took Sway's course on so she owns those salon suites and she does like a course on how to do that.
Wendy (45:34.766)
Right.
Wendy (45:45.198)
Mm.
Kelli (45:47.164)
Sway says that Porsche's a cute stalker for taking her class. And she says Porsche's been going 24 hours a day in every aspect of her life. And Porsche's well, that's some shade there. So Sway asks her where they stand because she doesn't like being part of the triangle. And Porsche said the baby being a deal breaker and Mike saying he loved her so soon scared her. So
Wendy (46:14.006)
noted that Portia was flirting big time with Sway. You could see that there was chemistry there and Portia was right there for it. Like I saw the connection between Portia and Sway. I did not see it between her and Mike, but I definitely s yeah.
Kelli (46:18.728)
Yeah.
Kelli (46:29.713)
That's what I'm saying. I think I think Mike was a prop this season. I think Mike was a prop. And listen, I'll take Mike as a prop anytime. Mike was a very delicious prop to look at. So yeah. Sway says she is not dating other people like she was before. Portia says, When are you going to not date other people? And she says she says he has a feeling. She has a feeling?
Wendy (46:35.469)
Yeah.
Wendy (46:39.17)
Mike's hot.
No, he's hot. Mike's hot.
Kelli (46:59.729)
She says she thinks spending more time together has changed things and it's a problem for Mike. That's what she says. So Portia says, I'm a lesbian and Sway says you may be transitioning as a joke. but but then she's like I don't want I don't like to put a label on anything and neither do we, Sway. So have at it. Yeah.
Wendy (47:12.046)
my gosh.
Wendy (47:17.632)
No, we don't like labels. Labels are ridiculous. Nobody needs a freakin' label. Just be you and be whoever you wanna be. Don't label it. Yep, it's all f yeah.
Kelli (47:22.727)
Yep. It's all fluid, baby. It's all fluid.
So Angela and Charles are having their family dinner with their kids, including Amari. And we find out that tenants are finally moving into one of that property in Decatur with the spiders. And she tells them about the fanji shoot. And then the two younger ones are like, Can we please leave? And they leave the table. Angela asks Amari where her wife is, and she says she's working.
And Angela says, I haven't talked to her, Valeria, the the wife, about you guys getting married. So they call her and then they flash back to Amari calling Valeria after after that one conversation I think that they had with the therapist when Amari got up and walked away. Maybe not the therapy w they had a conversation and then Amari got up and walked away. She was frustrated and she called Valeria and
Wendy (48:01.218)
Right.
Wendy (48:05.718)
Yes.
Wendy (48:18.295)
Yeah.
Kelli (48:23.549)
Valeria did recognize that it hurt Angela that they got married without telling her, which I think that that was probably important for her to acknowledge. Charles says Angela felt left out and she had a right to. And Charles says Amari had to make her own decision. And then Amari basically says she's had regrets about getting married. And Angela was right about the work you have to put into it. And Angela says you've
Wendy (48:31.853)
Yeah.
Wendy (48:50.84)
She said, I didn't want to prove you right. Those were her exact words to Angela. I did not want to prove you right. And Angela said, So do you regret getting married? And she says, Sometimes I do. Yeah, it's hard. And it is hard. It is hard.
Kelli (48:55.035)
Yeah.
Kelli (49:02.385)
Yeah. Angela says, You've seen us get married, me get pregnant, and then not knowing if we were gonna make it. And Amari says, This isn't an easy life, and you were right. And Angela says, I didn't want to be right. I just want you to be happy. And listen, that's all of us about all of our kids. We just want them to be happy. I don't need to be right. I just need you to live a good moral, ethical, faithful life. That's all.
Wendy (49:10.359)
Right.
Wendy (49:23.534)
Mont should be happy. Right. And right.
And maybe listen to us sometimes because we've been on this planet a little bit longer than you and we have some life experience. Just saying. Just saying. But I did like that listen, that I love that Charles was there for this whole conversation. I'll be honest with you, he had a tear in his eye too. And that's he had a tear in his eye too, because he him and Angela are solid. I think they're solid. And he loves Amari as though she's his daughter. I he loves Amari. Like, you know.
Kelli (49:34.627)
I mean you might learn something. Exactly. You might learn something. Mm-hmm.
Kelli (49:47.975)
I know.
Kelli (49:55.795)
Think they are too. Yeah.
I mean that son has to be what twelve?
Wendy (50:05.932)
I mean, yes, 'cause when we saw yes.
Kelli (50:06.417)
And Amari's what in her early twenties? So she was probably only like nine when they got together, or you know, whatever. But all right, so now we're at K Michelle's listening party and we meet her sister Shahla, who is pretty much like her twin, except
Wendy (50:13.71)
Yeah.
Wendy (50:20.792)
Who looks like our twins?
I almost fell over. I did not know K Michelle had a sister.
Kelli (50:28.753)
That looks exactly like her. Maybe they are twins. But she says that yeah, the sister says how proud they are of Kay. And then were they in Nashville for this party, by the way, or were they in Atlanta?
Wendy (50:30.666)
I know. I they might be.
Wendy (50:41.28)
I think they were in Atlanta. I mean they were at a pl I don't write down the place. I think they were in Atlanta.
Kelli (50:43.932)
Okay.
Okay. I wasn't sure. Drew shows up with a big ass fan. Why was she holding that big fan?
Wendy (50:54.306)
Who knows?
Kelli (50:56.357)
And then we hear that Kelly did not have court yesterday to as a delay tactic, her ex's attorney filed five motions for the judge to review.
Wendy (51:08.962)
That's craziness.
Kelli (51:10.397)
That's a delay tactic for sure. they bring up the horse and Shamia says the horse shit in her yard and shows Drew the finds and Drew says this is giving very corny, but I'll look into it. And then
Wendy (51:25.816)
$2,200. And she says to Phaedra, yeah. And Phaedra starts reading it. She's like, Yeah, well, that looks legit. I I think it was legit. I don't think she made that up. I don't think that was I don't think it was made up. And Drew called her a performative. Drew of all people called Shamia performative. I was like, what? Are you kidding me? And Shemia said, Girl, you brought a horse to my house.
Kelli (51:29.991)
She gives it to Phaedra and she's like, Here, you read it. Yeah.
Kelli (51:36.881)
Yeah. I think it was too.
Kelli (51:42.919)
Yeah. So
Wendy (51:56.995)
She's like, I I didn't know anything about that. That was a surprise. Everyone's like, Yeah, well then how did he get the address?
Kelli (52:03.515)
Yeah, like where like why the horse? What why? Was he giving her was he gifting her a horse?
Wendy (52:08.716)
Because she was he gave her the horse. No, he gave her the horse. She's like, I don't even know what I'm gonna do with it now. No, he gave her the horse.
Kelli (52:14.535)
What are you gonna do with a horse? You you're barely living in a house. You got one foot out the door at that house you're living in.
Wendy (52:18.614)
Right. Right. I know. I know.
Kelli (52:23.187)
Creepy ass Terry. So Portia shows up with Sway. Shamia says she did the best to salvage the friendship. But at this point, she's going to match Portia's energy. Now, if you'll notice under Sway's name, it says girlfriend, not lady friend. It says girlfriend. Yeah. Portia says she's gay now in her confessional. And Mike found out by a post.
Wendy (52:40.93)
I didn't notice that. Okay. Okay, good. Good.
Kelli (52:51.377)
that she was exclusive with Sway and she's like, Yeah, I didn't do right by him.
Wendy (52:53.304)
That's crappy.
Wendy (52:59.084)
No, she didn't. But I will say I listen, I like her and Sway together. I mean, they're they are still together. Sway has very masculine energy, which is fine. I think that that's
Kelli (53:03.803)
Yeah. Well they're still together, so something clicked.
Kelli (53:11.603)
Sway's got swag.
Wendy (53:14.411)
that's it. That's it. Yeah. Yeah.
Kelli (53:16.211)
For sure she's got swag.
Wendy (53:18.636)
And that that's what Porsche needs. Like I d I'm not I'm not I don't have a problem with Sway and Porsche. No, but Mike didn't, honestly. I think actually Sway has more masculine energy than Mike did, to be quite honest with you. And you want to call it swag, we can call it swag, but I think Sway has more swag than Mike had. And I think Sway is better for Porsche.
Kelli (53:20.861)
Yes.
Not that Mike didn't, but
Kelli (53:40.339)
Mike to me, Mike was easy on the easier on the eyes. But whatever. Sway's attractive for sure. Sway's attractive. Yeah.
Wendy (53:45.226)
definit n no, no. Mike was hot. Mike Mike had the muscles. Mike was hot.
Kelli (53:52.051)
Portia says it's warm in here and Angela hands her a fangy. And it looks like a hairdryer and it's snatched up Portia's hair.
Wendy (53:59.247)
Caught her hair. my gosh.
Kelli (54:04.061)
Damn. So then we see some man walk out with a whistle, and Kay gets on stage and starts singing her new song Jesus and Whiskey. I liked it.
Wendy (54:05.591)
Not good.
Wendy (54:18.007)
I do too.
Kelli (54:20.029)
Then she s sang her second song, Jack Daniels. I do see a theme here. Well, we knew she liked whiskey. No matter where she goes, she orders whiskey. Pinky says she loves Country K. Everyone's being really supportive. and Pinky says in her confessional, yes, friend, you better get it. And Drew could never.
Kay says she has met on the mic. She has met some of the most beautiful women recently. She says, You guys have changed my life. And the last song is V S O P and she hands Shamia the microphone, and Drew's like whispering, I don't even know whose ear. Portia's I don't know the words. Don't bring the mic down here. And then even Angela took the microphone and was singing, and Portia, and then Pinky, and then Phaedra, and then Kelly.
Wendy (55:01.326)
I don't know the words. I don't know the words. I don't
Wendy (55:10.016)
And Phaedra, Phaedra sang, like everyone sang. Right.
Kelli (55:13.541)
Everyone's saying, even Kelly and Phaedra's like Whitney Houston is not among us.
Wendy (55:20.75)
Mm.
Kelli (55:21.071)
That was so funny. So Drew takes the mic and acts like a complete asshole. She's like, like, fucking fake it, Drew. You fake everything else. Fake the song.
Wendy (55:34.528)
I I agree. I agree.
Kelli (55:37.332)
and then she says to Kay, I love you, I love you so much. Okay. Cynthia says it's been a fun night, and thanks Kay for bringing them together. Sway and Portia toast to being exclusive. And then out of nowhere, yeah, that's a hard line. Out of nowhere, Drew says something about not feeling safe. And then Kay says, Kay brings up.
Wendy (55:54.84)
That's her hard launch.
Kelli (56:06.981)
not knowing that man or all of a sudden, right? This came out of nowhere. So now we're talking about black again. Kay says she didn't look at her DMs until after Drew said something. And Drew is showing text messages and now Kay is being held back. And then Drew falls.
Wendy (56:09.326)
Black. Right. Yep.
Wendy (56:27.35)
Right. She trips over her pants. Let's make that clear.
Kelli (56:30.515)
She did. She did. So Kay says she gets DMs from a lot of men and she always says, thank you for coming to my show. And Piggy's like, Why are we still talking about black? And that's what we want to know. Like, nobody cares about this guy. Drew says someone pushed her down. And no, they did not.
Wendy (56:50.194)
she said security. She said that the I somehow I wound up on the floor tackled by security.
Kelli (56:59.089)
Yeah. And Porsche's like, Well your pants are a little long.
Wendy (57:02.806)
What she said while she was walking out, I tripped over my pants. So she admitted to it. She did.
Kelli (57:06.747)
Yes. Yes, she did. She's a liar. She's a fucking liar.
Wendy (57:11.8)
She's a liar. She is a liar. She really is a liar.
Kelli (57:16.859)
my God. Portia said Kay fixed her issues with Drew in Scotland and this argument did not have to happen. Amen to that, Portia. so now we get to the end. So that that's the basically the that's how the episode ends. I mean, they all take a picture together and then Drew comes back in.
Wendy (57:31.139)
Yeah.
Wendy (57:34.872)
But Drew wasn't in the picture they took together.
Kelli (57:38.403)
No. they didn't take another one when would tr 'cause she walked back in.
Wendy (57:43.604)
I don't think they did. I think she was not in the final picture.
Kelli (57:47.43)
Okay. So then we get to the end. It says Phaedra is still the godfather of Atlanta. Pinky is nearly four million in debt and is filing chapter eleven. yeah. Shamia rumbum is done in.
Wendy (58:00.952)
But wait, no wait, wait, back up. After filing for bankruptcy, she's on TikTok teaching the haters Do I say not as I owe. Do as I say not as I owe. So she files for bankruptcy and then she's telling people, Do as I say not as I owe. Okay.
Kelli (58:19.591)
Right. Shamia Rumbum is done and they're launching a perfume line and then we see that they are pregnant. She tells Gerald, Yeah, the transfer took. Thank God. So happy for them. That's awesome. Angela has built a healthier bond with her daughter and Fanji is in demand. Kelly, we see Drew went to the what is it, Springs?
Wendy (58:27.862)
I love that I love that, I so love that.
Wendy (58:48.682)
Nana Sandy Springs. The Nana's in Sandy Springs.
Kelli (58:51.185)
Sandy Springs. Yeah, that it closed. and then it does say that her kids are cleared to film, but her legal battles continue. Drew comes back and they reached a settlement. She yeah, so they reached a settlement. That's what happened. She came back when they were doing all the recaps. They reached a settlement. She had to leave and lost custody and has to pay child support.
Wendy (58:54.84)
Right.
Wendy (59:01.048)
Mm-hmm.
Kelli (59:22.375)
That's wild. K Michelle dropped her
Wendy (59:25.144)
But also but wait, back up. Also,
Wendy (59:32.591)
Kelly's husband was found in contempt and is in jail. Kelly's Kelly's one month later, the judge found that he was in contempt and ordered and mandated him to be incarcerated until he forked over to $31,000 in arrears and that the children were allowed to film. And Kelly's like, I don't want my kids to know that their father's in jail. So, right. So he was he was put in jail.
Kelli (59:37.427)
okay.
Kelli (59:56.167)
Right. Right.
Kelli (01:00:01.246)
Okay.
Wendy (01:00:01.346)
Which is sad, is very sad.
Kelli (01:00:04.413)
Yeah. K Michelle dropped her country album on July thirty first and is yodeling all the way to the bank. Portia and Sway are eight months in and she's not engaged, but they're taking family vacations. So that's nice.
Wendy (01:00:20.554)
I'm good I'm here for that. So on Watch What Happens Live we have a couple things. K Michelle was on. and Andy asked her like what she thought of her first season. She said it was not what she expected, but it was what she needed. I love that she said that. Andy asked if Drew should pay the H O L H O A bill and she said yes. I think she should. I thought I think this is very interesting and I want to see what happens in the reunion.
Kelli (01:00:35.683)
Mm. Yeah.
Kelli (01:00:44.977)
Absolutely.
Wendy (01:00:50.476)
He asked, Do you regret this? Her only regret was her confessional looks and the seasons she felt she could have done more. But also, she mentioned something about her relationship with Shamia. Something happens that she regrets. I don't know. I think we're gonna see it in the reunion. Something between Kay Michelle happened, and I don't think Kay Michelle and Shamia are as close as they were. I don't
Kelli (01:01:05.235)
Mm-hmm.
Wendy (01:01:20.02)
I don't think Shamia They did. I don't think Shamia saw K Michelle for who she was or I think K Michelle saw Shemia for who she was. I think I when she's when I see that she unfollowed her, I feel like she's taking Porsche's side, but I don't think K Michelle is the person to do that unless there's a reason to do that. So we'll have to wait and see what happens in the reunion.
Kelli (01:01:21.117)
They unfollowed each other, didn't they?
Kelli (01:01:46.173)
Yeah. Yeah, no, I I it's a shame because I liked I liked the Kelly, Shamia, K Michelle, Pinky a lot like friendship. I liked that. Because you know, it's then it's Portia, Phaedra, Drew, and Angela. So I well, we'll see. Yeah. We'll see.
Wendy (01:01:58.338)
I do too. I do too.
Wendy (01:02:04.598)
And Cynthia's in the middle.
Yeah, we'll have to wait and see.
Kelli (01:02:10.579)
All right, well thank you so much for listening. We're over an hour. Right? Is this g gonna be one?
Wendy (01:02:16.834)
Yes, it's one.
Kelli (01:02:18.449)
Yeah. So thank you and good night.
Bye.