RHOA Scotland Showdown: Family Secrets Destroy a Lifelong Friendship

Wendy (00:01.27)
Welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.999)
I'm Callie.

Wendy (00:05.932)
We are doing Real Housewives of Atlanta season seventeen, episode fourteen and fifteen. Because we skipped a week. But before I do that, I would like to ask everyone to please head over to Instagram and follow us and go over to YouTube, hit subscribe. I have noticed we've we are getting more Instagram followers, which we're really trying to push that because for some reason everyone only wa follows us on Facebook and YouTube YouTube. So y and TikTok. Yeah, TikTok too.

Kelli (00:32.471)
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Wendy (00:36.43)
And thank you for everyone who's already done it. So episode fourteen was called Highland Games and Expose Explosive Claims. And this is day two in Scotland. it's breakfast time. Phaedra brings up that she needed to take a look at what this tasty black was, because they were talking about that the night before.

Kelli (00:39.565)
Thank you.

Kelli (01:00.663)
Yeah.

Wendy (01:01.474)
that it's some sort of lesbian porn, but when she tried to look it up, she found out that it is in fact banned in Scotland. So anyone trying to do that, you're not gonna find it if you're in Scotland.

Kelli (01:08.171)
Yes.

You have to yeah, you have to do what Portia does and screen record it. Screen record it and then play it back for yourself once you get to Scotland. Screen record it here in the US and then play it back. Yeah.

Wendy (01:15.852)
Download it. yes, screen record it.

Wendy (01:22.105)
Yes. Yes.

Exactly. And then we find out they're gonna do some traditional Highland games. One of them is a caber toss, a hammer toss, and a tug of war. So the caber toss was like this big giant log thing. and you had to like grab it from the bottom and like flip it over, right? I thought for sure, due to the fact of Angela's sheer height, that she would be like the best at this

Of all of them, right? Because she was the actually, I think she was probably the worst, to be honest with you. I don't even know who won that one because they didn't they didn't announce it. Then the next thing was the hammer toss. you had to take this big giant like hammer and toss it as far as you could. Portia won that one.

Kelli (01:55.533)
Yeah, she was not.

Kelli (01:59.886)
I think she was the worst. I think she was the worst.

Kelli (02:17.293)
But it was like a golf like a golf swing motion, which was pretty cool.

Wendy (02:21.931)
Yes, yes. And then the last one was the tug of war. And listen, I feel like you cannot go wrong with a tug of war. Except for the fact that these teams were certainly stacked. So there was two teams. One team was Sturdy, which was Team Sturdy is what they were called. It was Portia, Pinky, Drew, Angela. And then there was Team Mighty, which was Cynthia, Shemiah, Kelly, and Phaedra. I mean Shamia, Kelly, and Phaedra are are

Kelli (02:29.719)
Mm mm.

Kelli (02:33.355)
Yes.

Wendy (02:51.265)
Tiny compared to Portia, Pinky, and Drew. Like so ne yeah, and Angela. So needless to say, sturdy one.

Kelli (02:52.215)
Tiny, tiny.

Kelli (02:57.675)
Right. And Angela.

Kelli (03:03.543)
Yes, thirty one.

Wendy (03:05.506)
I don't know if you noticed this, but I mean Kelly at one point she was like laying down on the ground with her legs up in the air. They were literally dragging her. I was like, my gosh, that's poor girl

Kelli (03:20.266)
She said I ended up on my back but not with anybody's husband or boyfriend.

Wendy (03:24.237)
Just getting dragged from the tug of war.

Wendy (03:31.831)
So then they go inside and they're gonna have hot toddy's and haggis. That is, according to Phaedra, a traditional Scotland treat. And haggis is the intestines and brains of a lamb. No thank you. Nope.

Kelli (03:44.781)
now is that considered vegan?

Wendy (03:48.851)
No, but they did make a vegan version for pinky, which is just tofu. We all know what the vegan meat version of anything is. It's tofu, right?

Kelli (03:56.878)
Everybody was probably like, I'll take the vegan version, thanks.

Wendy (04:00.189)
Yeah, exactly.

Wendy (04:05.643)
They t they tried it though. I g listen, I give them credit. Like they did try it. But then they go to lunch and that's also on the menu is is Haggis. It's on the menu for lunch.

Kelli (04:09.292)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (04:16.813)
at lunch the ladies ask Kelly how she's doing because of the headlines, you know, the night before. she says okay and she thanks them for her su you know, for them supporting her. And Drew talks about how it was so liberating that they kind of all came together. Which is good. I mean, whenever these girls can come together, it's a good thing. they say that they're gonna reconvene in an hour. Meanwhile we see Shamia's on the phone with her mom.

Kelli (04:40.215)
Yes.

Wendy (04:46.649)
And she says she feels like she's attacked. And she's saying it's hard to move forward and you feel like your feelings are never validated. Pinky is asking

Kelli (04:59.041)
tells her how Angela she tells her mom how Angela accused her of sleeping with that guy George.

Wendy (05:04.703)
Right, right. Pinky's asking K Michelle like what's going on with her and Shemia, she feels like the energy is off, and Pinky's saying that Shamia is fighting with everyone. And

K Michelle feels like what's going on with Shamia is bigger issues than what's like battling bigger issues and what's going on with you know, here. I don't know what is going on with Shamia. I really wish I could even after we've watched two episodes, I don't I really still I don't get it. I don't I don't understand what's going on with her.

Kelli (05:38.05)
Well

I think it speaks volumes when she says that Portia didn't want her to be a full time housewife. 'Cause I think we knew we knew we basically knew that. It was very obvious when Portia completely one hundred percent stole her thunder last season, episode one, when Shamia was trying to have a birthday party and Portia made it all about herself when she was three hours late. Like I think that that's the underlying thing here with Shamia.

Wendy (05:50.231)
Yes.

Kelli (06:07.565)
And the fact that everybody on this show, almost including Kelly now, is kissing Portia's ass and they're gonna they're if if when it comes down to it, they're not gonna be Shamia's friend. They're gonna back Portia up 'cause she's been here the longest.

Wendy (06:24.951)
Right.

I I think that that's I think that that's true. I think what you just said is actually accurate, which is it's sad because you know, last season when Shamia came on full time, like we were both excited for her. We were excited to for her to be a full time 'cause we had seen her as a friend role for so long. And it it just is so sad to me that Portia had to be that petty.

Kelli (06:40.193)
Yes.

Kelli (06:43.724)
Yes.

Kelli (06:48.821)
Mm-hmm. It's it this whole Atlanta thing is giving heavy, heavy Jersey vibes. We now have two teams, right? We got and Shamia is ver is still well liked, I think. Like I don't see people

Wendy (06:50.167)
Cause

Wendy (06:57.858)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:02.923)
I no, I don't see the people hating on her either, to be honest with you.

Kelli (07:05.879)
So it's it's kinda like a Teresa and Melissa thing where they both have a decent fan base and now we're gonna have teams and it's it's not fun to watch. Like I feel I feel like Atlanta should be very careful because look at what happened with Jersey. You know, you wanna be put on pause for two years and then have to come back with strangers. Like, let's not do this.

Wendy (07:11.788)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:31.979)
Yeah. It's true. It's very true. And then

Kelli (07:35.425)
Like I like this group. I think this is a good group.

Wendy (07:38.645)
I do too, I do too. But I'll be honest with you, I I agree with you. I don't really think there's any way going forward with having both Shamia and Portia on. And that means Shemia's gone. Like that means Shemia's gone.

Kelli (07:48.939)
Not with what just happened. Right. Right.

Wendy (07:56.044)
Which honestly, I mean, I think the show will be fine without Shamea, but I think it's it's sad that one, they lost their friendship over it. And two, like for what? Right? Like for what at this point, you know? Pinky brings up how she's talking about all the real drama that she's going through in her life, you know, running her multimillion dollar company. she says she's just tired, like everyone's looking for her for the answers, and she's just sacrificed so much throughout her life and

Kelli (08:02.721)
Yeah.

Right. Right.

Wendy (08:25.867)
You know, she almost lost her marriage, because of her business. You know, she doesn't see her child like she's giving up everything. She's like, I'm to the point where maybe I'll just like quit this and become a ambassador for Go Naked Hair. And Porsche's like, Come on over. Yeah, Portia's like, Come on.

Kelli (08:38.655)
I love that. I love when she said that.

Wendy (08:46.849)
So then the next thing they're gonna do is they all get on a party bus together, and they're asking Kelly about her man, and she said that she was introduced to him at a Hawks game. Kelly said, I don't wanna be so hateful because of my situation. I'm glad that I found somebody that can can nurture me back. And we know that Shamia did introduce Kelly to to this guy. And I'm happy for her. Listen, everyone needs to have somebody on their side, right?

Kelli (09:11.981)
Yeah, no, I'm very happy for Kelly, but I loved when she said about the seventy thousand dollar smile, Fage was like, If I had bills to pay, I'd say, Give me the crest white strips and get the rest of my money the rest of the money for my bills. I thought that was great. Yep.

Wendy (09:24.051)
Exactly. That's so failure.

Wendy (09:29.197)
It was hysterical. Okay, this this this next conversation really went left. Drew is talking about.

Kelli (09:36.716)
So left.

Wendy (09:38.522)
her how she how she had a hysterectomy and now that she's noting that noticing she has to pee a lot. So the doctors order, you know, physical therapy for her, like and then she's talking about the pelvic floor, and then all of a sudden Phaedra jump this is when it goes left. When Phaedr jumps into the conversation and says, Okay, so you know you got your vagina and you got your cervix, and then you've got the pelvic floor. And sometimes it'll fall. And she's like, Well

You know, they s someone said, like, well how do you know it's falling? And she's like, Well, like, you know it just you just know. And she said, Well, sometimes you just gotta get somebody to F you to get it back up I was like, Wait, what? Like that's the prescription? Are you wait, what?

Kelli (10:25.825)
Yeah, and Drew then Drew says that her physical therapist had to finger her to pick her pelvic floor back up. I have never in my life heard of that.

Wendy (10:33.249)
Yes.

Wendy (10:37.673)
it's not real because I s I s I stopped immediately and had a googl I Googled it. There's there's no like none of this is real. Like I mean, yes, your pelvic floor there are exercises that you can do and there I did see that there are if the exercise basically the exercises are Kegels and if they don't work Yeah. And if they don't work there are some machines and it kind of look like like a STEM machine that you can possibly use. Again I

Kelli (10:39.679)
It can't possibly be real.

Kelli (10:54.381)
Kegels.

Wendy (11:07.477)
Okay, but there's no effing going on to fix this. And there's no one fingering you in physical therapy. I was just like

Kelli (11:11.101)
No. No. No. You don't have to go to third base with your physical therapist.

Wendy (11:18.218)
Ha ha ha

Wendy (11:23.243)
Told myself, this is the funniest, and they're all like talking about it like it's a serious, like it's a real thing. And no one's like, it's so funny. So the first stop that they make is it's all about Scottish tartans and kilts. And you know, they're learning a little bit about them. And in the 1820s, it became formalized that one family would have a particular tartan.

Kelli (11:23.627)
That was wild.

Kelli (11:29.514)
Exactly.

My gosh.

Wendy (11:51.574)
And Cynthia happened to be wearing the black black watch tartan and which goes with a certain family. And it takes twelve to sixteen hours to make one kilts. What I was surprised is that today, in twenty twenty six, they are still all hand sewn.

Kelli (12:09.613)
I know. I mean twelve to sixteen hours, that's crazy.

Wendy (12:11.625)
That's crazy.

Right, right. but Portia tells everyone to pick out their own tart and sash and she's gonna pay for it for them 'cause she wants them to wear that to the formal dinner for tomorrow.

and they all do that. And the next stop is the restaurants and the ladies get started with their drinks and I wrote down I actually like that Portia was sitting next to Kelly at this dinner because I feel like, you know, they're making progress and I like to see that.

Kelli (12:38.711)
Yeah.

Wendy (12:45.451)
Dr Angela asks Drew how her music's going, and we hear that she's dropping a new song with Ray J. And yeah, and then Pinky says, Well, if you need a background singer, call me. And she star yeah, she gives a you know, belts out a couple notes there. And then sh then she says to Portia, you I I didn't talk to you after I met with Dennis, but you know, we're gonna be doing a tour together.

Kelli (12:52.141)
That's a blast from the past.

Kelli (12:58.795)
And then she starts to sing to prove her point.

Wendy (13:13.873)
And she tells Porsche that when she was talking to Dennis, you know, they were talking about a lot of personal stuff. And Dennis was saying that, you know, he he's she said he was pouring his heart out and he really, he know, he kinda wants her back. Like he wants to be with Porsche. And she's like, Listen, I think, you know, when Mike was in the picture, that was one thing, but when he learned that Sway was in the picture, I guess he thought like, now there's no chance. Like I think he thought when it was just Mike.

there was a possibility and that's why I think he kinda showed up with the ring to try and give her the ring back. 'Cause I really I did say I really think Dennis wants Portia back.

Kelli (13:54.552)
I don't. I really think that this is just like a storyline for her. Especially because she says, I have no idea who's he who he's dating. You don't know who he's dating, but he's living with someone and takes your daughter to his house, but you don't know who this person is, but yet you feel uncomfortable with your daughter going with her father to Shamia's house. Stop it. You know who he's dating.

Wendy (13:55.661)
I know you don't.

Wendy (14:20.843)
Well well then

Kelli (14:21.547)
He's got a live in girlfriend. You know exactly who she is. You've probably done a background check on her.

Wendy (14:25.195)
Right. Well that's that's where it went left because then Shamia said, Well, I have a question. Dennis talked to Gerald and Dennis told Gerald that you mentioned you weren't comfortable with Pilar coming around us. She said, Well, you know, that's disappointing and hurtful and she said, Well, if somebody doesn't like me and I feel like we have ill will and we're not close, yeah, I'm not gonna have my daughter go to their house, which I do think is petty. I do, I think it's petty.

Kelli (14:51.957)
I do too because obviously, first of all, Dennis is gonna be there. So nobody's gonna shit talk Portia when Dennis is around. And why Shimia would never do that in front of Pylor. She's a little girl.

Wendy (14:59.637)
Right. Exactly.

Wendy (15:04.619)
Right. and you know, Shamia says, Listen, it's your daughter, so you're obviously allowed to do what you know, whatever you want, but I wish you would have just, you know, not allowed our friendship or lack of to affect our kids. Because obviously and

Kelli (15:17.985)
Right.

They're like cousins.

Wendy (15:24.523)
Yes, exactly. Because they were like sisters, exactly.

So Portia in her confessional said, you know, she's poking at me right now. She's using what she knows is most important to me. And the only time there would be a person that spoke to me that way, you would have to be my sister. And that's what she had called her, right? And that's what Shimea said. You said that we were sisters. Like you these were your words.

Kelli (15:47.723)
Yes, he did.

Wendy (15:56.694)
And she said, Well when I said we were sisters, we were. But then, you know, things came to my knowledge last year and then we're not. Okay.

Kelli (16:06.303)
Again, Porsche's just lying. She's just lying.

Wendy (16:10.721)
I know.

I know. I just I think it's just sad that it then goes to Shamia said you told a lot of lies last year, I let it go. Even the part where you said, Andy, I ha haven't I always wanted Sh Shemia to be on the show and you bo you know, you know that wasn't true. Like everyone knows that you didn't want me on the show and

You sat down with me and you said, You have the hawks, you have your singing thing, you have your dancing thing, like this is my thing. Portia sat down with me and had this conversation. And it I believe it too. I believe it too. Right, I do too. And Portia is saying, Why are you lying about that? And first of all, she why would she lie about that? There's no motive for her to lie about that, right?

Kelli (16:46.007)
Yep. And I believe it. I one hundred percent believe it.

Kelli (17:01.217)
Right. Right. Not at all.

Wendy (17:08.669)
So she she says, like, why would I lie about that? Like, you know, she said, you know, then we talked about our parents. You said I don't ever want a friendship to be affected by our parents' friendship. That's what you said, and we agreed. But the first thing you did was go on your public platform and talked about my mom. That my mom bought your mom's daycare and at the reunion. And she said, But in fact, your mom did something to my mom first.

Kelli (17:26.835)
And at the reunion. Yeah.

Wendy (17:39.118)
And you don't want me to speak on that, right? And Portia says, I don't give an F what our parents did because they were friends before we were friends. She said, Yeah, but you posted about my mom. So this is the thing. I I think it's so unfortunate this whole thing came out about the moms, that the both moms were dragged, the father was dragged, the uncle was dragged. These are people that had not signed up for this.

Kelli (17:56.801)
Yes.

Kelli (18:03.436)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:08.087)
That's right.

Wendy (18:08.385)
Have not signed up for this. Like this is crazy. It's crazy.

Kelli (18:15.371)
Yeah. Yeah. So I mean yeah, so Shamia accuses Portia's mom of trying to sleep with her father and then Portia turns around and says that Shemia's mom slept with Shamia's dad's brother. Now but sh but Portia doesn't know his name. So again, probably a lie.

And I didn't like when Phaedra's like, if somebody said that about my mom, I'd be like, that's not true. I wouldn't be like, which one? Shamia was asking which one 'cause she knew damn well Portia was lying and she wasn't gonna give a name. Portia I'm sure knows her uncle's names and could have said one, but didn't because it's a lie. But I do believe that Miss Diane would try to hook up with Shamia's father.

Wendy (18:45.772)
What?

Wendy (18:56.311)
Well, I thought it was funny.

Wendy (19:01.9)
Why?

Kelli (19:03.061)
I don't know. I'm sorry but

Wendy (19:06.317)
I mean we don't even know what sh wait, we do know No, no. I don't know. I don't I don't I don't know. But I yeah, we shouldn't. I d I mean, I did think I did like that honestly that Phaedra what she said in her confessional about that, like that is so the lawyer in her. I l like that's just how her brain thinks. Right? I mean, Cynthia said which I in her confessional, you know, she she came to dinner with one in the chamber. This

Kelli (19:06.485)
And I know we shouldn't be talking about anybody's mother.

Kelli (19:12.801)
Yeah, we shouldn't be talking about anybody's.

Kelli (19:25.653)
Yeah, of course, how your responses go, yeah.

Wendy (19:34.451)
Isn't the one to unload. Like, okay, you came in to talk, but all of a sudden this is the one you're gonna use. I was like, okay.

Kelli (19:40.095)
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Wendy (19:45.581)
So I mean even at the table when when they both dropped that, everyone gasped at the table. They were just like, What is going on?

Wendy (19:59.154)
Kelli (20:02.157)
So Shamia and Kelly basically leave. Kelly goes with her, which I was glad. And Kay says that nobody in the group should feel like everybody's against them. And that for the past month and a half Shamia has changed because of basically how everybody you know, how she she's been on the defense with everybody.

Wendy (20:05.131)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (20:17.143)
Yeah.

Kelli (20:19.947)
And she's devastated by the friendship of Porsche ending, and I do believe that.

Wendy (20:25.324)
Yeah.

Kelli (20:25.993)
And you know, Portia's so, you know, aghast that Shamia said that about her mother, but you said the other thing about her mother at the reunion and then you doubled down and said that her mother slept with her uncle. Like Portia's not innocent in any of this. If she wanted any sympathy, she should have kept her mouth shut. She shouldn't have said anything. If she would have just kept her mouth shut and been like, that's disgusting, you and your mother are low down dirty, end it.

Wendy (20:41.373)
No, she's not. No, she's not.

Kelli (20:54.935)
She'd have more sympathy. But then she goes back with some crazy other allegation.

Wendy (21:00.117)
And yeah, and not only does she do that, but then when this is airing and she's in the Bahamas, she goes on Twitter and and s starts bringing it up again. And sh sh yeah. Sh Shemia was on Watch What Happens Live after last night's episode, 'cause you know, that was like the second, you know, another part of Scotland. And Andy asked her about it and she's like, Listen, I'm not speaking about this anymore. And I don't blame her. Like that's where it needs to be. Like just let's not talk about it.

Kelli (21:09.131)
Yeah, see. So zero credibility portion, zero.

Kelli (21:24.653)
Good. Good. It's gotta end. Yeah, nobody should be talking about mothers. That's right. Yep.

Wendy (21:28.705)
Because that's the only way it's gonna go away. Stop talking about it, right?

Wendy (21:38.957)
so I mean Shimia, like you said, she left crying. Her she said her parents have been married for almost fifteen fifty years. Fifty years. Like it's a long time. That is a long time.

Kelli (21:50.573)
Yeah.

Kelli (21:55.053)
I'm only halfway there. God bless

Wendy (21:57.103)
Mm. So then the next one is episode number fifteen and this one is called Walking the Dead. Excuse me, Waking the Dead.

Kelli (22:09.975)
So crazy Phaedra. I have Walking the Dead also.

Wendy (22:10.701)
So no, it's waking. It's waking. So this is we're still at the dinner. You know, they've Kelly and Shamia have left the dinner and she's heard about what's gone on, but the other ladies are going out to the hottest club in Scotland. And Kelly and Shamia are like, We are not gonna miss I'm not.

Kelli (22:16.683)
Yeah. That's so funny though. I really have Walk in the Dead. That's so funny.

Wendy (22:39.671)
Coming all way to Scotland, we're not gonna miss this. So while they're celebrating Phaedra's birthday at the hottest, you know, club in Scotland, Shamia and Kelly get themselves together and they show up there. And Kay Michelle is singing happy birthday to Phaedra, and she was so honored to be serenaded by Kay Michelle.

Then Angela and Drew, after Kelly and Shamia show up, as soon as Kelly and Shamia show up, Portia sees them and she takes her stuff and she leaves. And they led us to believe that everyone left also. But according to Instagram the next day, Angela and Cynthia stayed and watched Shamia sing.

Kelli (23:34.401)
Right. So just poor Schafedra and Drew left.

Wendy (23:35.735)
But that's yes, but that's not how production edited it. So

Kelli (23:41.877)
One hundred percent.

Wendy (23:44.642)
Scotland Day three, Facher's taking some of the girls to the cemetery, and she is taking Cynthia Kelly and Shemea. Now it turns out this cemetery is has something to do with Harry Potter. Like the name, like J.K. Rowlings went to this cemetery and like took some of the names off.

Kelli (24:03.797)
I don't think it was I don't think it was this cemetery. I think that Phaedra had heard that J.K. Rowling walked through a cemetery and was inspired to write Harry Potter. And that's another reason she likes to visit cemeteries. I think yes, exactly. Exactly.

Wendy (24:16.139)
Wendy (24:20.427)
besides the fact that she's a mortician. it could be. I mean that c that I mean listen. She's Phaedra. You know what? Let her do whatever she's gonna do.

Kelli (24:28.903)
Sh whatever. She's successful. So whatever she's doing is working. So God bless her.

Wendy (24:33.835)
She's yeah. So then Portia's gonna take whoever doesn't go with Phaedra. She says they're gonna come with her to the spa, but I will tell you that was the jankiest spa I've ever seen in my life. Like that was not a spa

Kelli (24:43.789)
It was a it w it was a hot tub in the middle of the woods.

Wendy (24:49.589)
In the middle of nowhere. I was like, what is this? Nobody was getting in that. No.

Kelli (24:51.501)
What the?

Kelli (24:55.805)
No. Did you notice that when they were walking through that cemetery, they were playing the theme song to the Addams family at just a different tempo? I'm almost positive. Because I'm listening to the music. I'm like, I'm like, what is that? It was either the Addams family or the Munsters, but it was just a different tempo. It was definitely one of them.

Wendy (25:06.573)
I didn't notice that.

Wendy (25:15.149)
That's so funny. That's funny.

Wendy (25:24.599)
So before they before Portia takes them to her janky spa, she calls her sister Lauren on the phone and she's telling her what happened and you know, of course Lauren's her sister, so she's gonna, you know, take Portia's side on it. But Portia then has to throw out another dig about her daddy never had any teeth. Okay, the man is still alive. Right. Right. Right.

Kelli (25:40.45)
Yes.

Kelli (25:45.557)
Yeah, see th this is what I mean. She's horrible, Portia. She's horrible. You're saying that about a man who you've known since you were a little girl who was probably very good to you growing up.

Wendy (25:59.34)
Yep.

Kelli (26:00.76)
But now that you're on TV and you're the star of the show, you think you could say that about

Wendy (26:07.233)
Right. Which isn't cool. It's not cool. So when they're on the way to the cemetery, Shamia in the van, she apologizes, you know, to Cynthia and everyone 'cause she didn't expect it to go that way. And, you know, b basically everyone asks her at some point throughout this episode, like, why would you do this? And she's like, Listen, I didn't come in here planning to do this. This has been something that has been building up.

And I just I just let it go. I just I just exploded. Like it wasn't my best moment. I didn't, you know, plan on doing this, but this is what happened. You keep you keep poking me, something's gonna happen.

Wendy (26:50.199)
Yeah.

So Drew then ta thanks Kay Michelle for supporting her with her music, which I thought was nice.

Pinky says she's seen changes in Shamia and they all thought that she wanted to make amends with Portia, which again, I think that she did, but Portia just wasn't allowing it.

Kelli (27:17.503)
Even though she says she was ready. She wasn't.

Wendy (27:18.189)
but no she wasn't. She definitely wasn't. the tour guide of the cemetery lets them know that in nineteen ninety nine there was an exorcism at this cemetery and a week later the exorcist died. Okay. Thank you for sharing that. Right.

Kelli (27:31.917)
That's wild. Wild.

Wendy (27:36.764)
Wendy (27:40.161)
So everyone gets back to the castle, the spa goers, the you know, cemetery goers, and they're all g going to get ready 'cause they're going to be celebrating Phaedra's birthday that night.

Kelli (27:46.315)
Yeah.

Wendy (27:57.538)
I don't I don't know who Phaedra was having this conversation with when she was talking about how she wasn't really able to date after Apollo 'cause she had, you know she said she only had two boyfriends in seven years. C Cynthia. It must have been Cynthia, 'cause in Cynthia and her confessional called bullshit. Okay.

Kelli (28:10.967)
Well I it must have been in the car. no no no no no it was at they're having the dinner in the library and Phaedra says she had two boyfriends in seven years and Cynthia's like no

Wendy (28:19.552)
Okay.

Wendy (28:26.941)
No, no.

Kelli (28:28.285)
That was so funny.

Wendy (28:32.728)
the ladies are all wearing their tart and sashes that they had picked out.

Kelli (28:36.029)
I did think that they all looked stunning. All of them.

Wendy (28:39.403)
They did. They really did. They really did. I think that I as a matter of fact, I thought that their outfits for that birthday dinner were better than some of their reunion looks.

Kelli (28:42.721)
Yeah. Everyone looked amazing.

Kelli (28:55.361)
Absolutely. Like that is that is how they should show up to a reunion. Not no, it wasn't them. It was the Potomac ladies. Remember the one year where all of their boobs were literally smushed down? It like looked painful.

Wendy (28:57.441)
Yeah, I agree with you.

Wendy (29:01.611)
Yeah.

Wendy (29:10.229)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (29:15.527)
Kelli (29:19.543)
Kelly said Kelly must have been in her confessional and she said all the other ladies are taking on Porsche's beef.

Wendy (29:19.543)
Cynthia is telling Ant okay.

Kelli (29:27.707)
because Shamia said she felt lighter after saying her truth. And Kelly said all the other ladies are taking on Porsche's beef and the ladies aren't looking at the truth. They're just following the one who's been here for a long time but is also a known liar. And that's facts right there. Facts.

Wendy (29:31.595)
Yes, she did.

Wendy (29:44.503)
That is facts.

Wendy (29:51.192)
Cynthia is telling Angela, Drew, and K Michelle about her conversation that she had with Shemia at the cemetery. And we find out that the ladies created a party in a secret room that was actually next to Phaedra's bedroom that she knew nothing about. Only in a castle. Only in a castle.

Kelli (30:08.311)
Yeah. Yeah. It looked like a library, right, with all those books.

Wendy (30:13.523)
It did. It did. and then Portia is thanking Phaedra for her friendship and she's saying that she's always been there for her, you know, whether they were filming or not. And I'm like, what is this? Seriously, like what is this?

Kelli (30:31.031)
Well, I loved when Shamia and her confessionals like, she's your best friend, she wasn't even at your wedding.

Wendy (30:36.681)
Ex exactly, exactly.

Phaedra's telling them all about the cemetery. K Michelle starts talking about how she had thirteen different surgeries and how she's prayed to God that, you know, cause she made this stupid mistake and like sh please let me stay here. Because honestly, every time she talks about it, I feel like this girl has been near death several times because of this one mistake that she made. I mean, it's a big yeah, right? Like it

Kelli (31:05.121)
Yeah. Well that's what she wants us to think at least, yeah.

Wendy (31:10.336)
It comes up a lot.

Kelli (31:12.045)
Yeah, I mean she must I mean this must have poisoned her body, I would imagine. Which is frightening. I mean, for a doctor to tell her mother we don't know if she's gonna make it for crying out loud, my God. I mean that's what she alluded to, right?

Wendy (31:16.821)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, it really is.

Wendy (31:26.613)
Scary. Scary. Yeah, no, that's what she said. Yeah, yeah. I guess after Phaedra's done telling them about the cemetery, Drew brings up that now she's thinking about her dad and she feels guilty 'cause she hasn't visited his gravesite and it's been almost two years. And she starts getting emotional. So she gets up and walks away from the table and Portia goes with her.

Kelli (31:31.212)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (31:52.268)
And then Shamia starts and talking to the people left at the table, and she, you know, apologizes to them and to Phaedra, and she's like, I don't, you know, I don't want people to have to pick a side. Like, you know, this is something I shouldn't have done. And Kay Michelle says, Well, why would you do this? And she again says, It's been festering. And in her confessional, Pinky said, Shemia at this point has become a professional apologizer.

And Kelly is saying, I keep telling her to stop apologizing.

Kelli (32:24.673)
Yeah. I mean, I don't think it was outland you know, I don't think it was I think it was nice that she apologized to Phaedra because this is her birthday trip and that dinner really did take a hard turn when she dropped that bomb about Portia's mom. But you know, I could imagine how bottled up she felt with that, especially after Portia saying that her mom, you know, bought Diane's

Wendy (32:27.35)
Mm.

Wendy (32:34.209)
I do too. Right.

Yes, yes, yes.

Kelli (32:55.191)
Daycare, whatever. Like I don't know.

Wendy (32:55.457)
Daycare center. Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (33:00.759)
So as she's still like kind of talking and apologizing, Drew and Portia come back to the table. the cake comes out, they sing happy birthday and you know, it's not it's not mentioned anymore.

And that's pretty much the end of it. But then we see scenes from for next week and this I think is interesting. So next week we see K Michelle has a sit down with Shamia and says, You went really low really fast. What made you bring that up? And I'm like, You've already asked her that. So why are you asking that or again? Like I keep I feel like K Michelle and Pinky think that there's more to this 'cause that's what they keep saying.

Kelli (33:16.919)
Yeah. That's it.

Kelli (33:41.687)
They do, but w I don't was Kay there when they asked like I think that wasn't that in the tro in the with when they went to the cemetery. So it would have been Shamia, Kelly, Phaedra and Cynthia. So Kay, Michelle and Pinky weren't there. at the dinner they talked about it again. Okay.

Wendy (33:54.22)
No, but at the dinner No, but at the dinner, yeah, when when Shemia apologized when Portia walked away, Kay Michelle said, What made you say something to Portia? Like that she said, I it's been fostering. That's what she said. Like she answered her at the dinner, so then why when they get back is she having an Right, and she her and Pinky keep saying that they think there's something else going on with Shamia. Like and it's they've seen her change throughout the season.

Kelli (34:08.321)
Yeah. So

Right. So why are we bringing it up again?

Wendy (34:23.627)
I mean, that it just I don't know. I feel like that's weird. Then we see Portia's out bowling with Mike and he says, I'm in love with her, as she says we could talk about it a little bit later. And we know how that ends. And then then the next then the next thing we see is Shamia's talking to Dennis and saying, They're all saying that you and I had a sexual relationship. We don't exactly get Dennis's answer, but then they say Angela was not lying. Angela is vindicated.

Kelli (34:35.895)
Yes. Yes, we do.

Wendy (34:52.459)
I'm not sure what they're referring to there.

Kelli (34:54.433)
Wait, or I thought that was George. I thought that was George. The guy George was showing it. It was Dennis?

Wendy (34:57.321)
No, no it was Dennis. I thought it was Dennis.

Kelli (35:03.425)
Talking about Drew?

Wendy (35:05.909)
No, about Shemia. Like there was no

Kelli (35:07.819)
Yeah, but nobody said Shamia and Dennis had a sexual relationship. They were saying George.

Wendy (35:11.645)
I know but it wasn't George that was there, was it? There was no blue beard guy. I thought it was Dennis.

Kelli (35:16.489)
I don't know because this one I had to watch on my D V R, not Peacock, because of when I watched it and it got cut off. So I didn't see who they were talking about. I just saw what they were saying. I just heard Angela was vindicated and I thought it had to do with Shamia and George.

Wendy (35:25.735)
I

Wendy (35:32.844)
Yeah. Maybe it wa I mean, I thought it was Dennis when I I look I thought it was Dennis. I could be wrong though. Now I'm gonna have to look back at it. We definitely will see next week. And Shemia did say on Watch What Happens live that you know, she felt like she was vindicated at the reunion. So whatever ha whatever comes out, you know, was gonna come out. So we'll have to wait and see. I can't imagine how many more episodes there are.

Kelli (35:39.681)
Well, we'll see you next week, that's for sure.

Yeah.

Kelli (35:53.376)
Okay.

Kelli (35:59.384)
Did she say where she was No, I mean, come on. We're on fifteen. Come on. Like wrap it up. It's too long. It's like the valley. End it. My God. Did she say where that obviously she and Portia are still not in a good place, right? Damn. They're not going to be after this. Nah.

Wendy (36:03.933)
It's seventeen we're on fifteen, right, we're on fifteen. I know. I know. Spe Yes, exactly, exactly.

Wendy (36:19.467)
No, no. And they're not going to be. I don't think that they ever will. Everyone has has said that. They're not gonna get past this. It's too much to get past.

Kelli (36:26.689)
And I'll tell you what, Porsche will keep this shit going just for the show.

Wendy (36:31.425)
Well, I mean, once this season's over, if Shamia's not there and there's nothing for her to keep going.

Kelli (36:31.958)
She really will.

Kelli (36:37.025)
Right. Yeah.

Wendy (36:38.347)
I mean and I think that's what's gonna happen.

Wendy (36:43.073)
So until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five-star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (36:44.17)
I don't know.

Kelli (36:51.384)
Bye.