June 19, 2025

RHOA-Oil, Tears & Crystals: A Grenada Rebirth

RHOA-Oil, Tears & Crystals: A Grenada Rebirth

Send us a text RHOA-Oil, Tears & Crystals: A Grenada Rebirth Podcast Summary: RHOA S16 E15 – “Chapter 3: The Rebirth” The trip continues in Grenada, and the ladies are riding the emotional rollercoaster of sisterhood, secrets, and spiritual shedding. After a wild night of twerking and bonding, everyone seems to be in good spirits—at least for a moment. Drew and Angela reflect on how nice it was to see the women truly having fun. But the cracks are starting to show in Britt and Kelli’s fri...

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RHOA-Oil, Tears & Crystals: A Grenada Rebirth

Podcast Summary: RHOA S16 E15 – “Chapter 3: The Rebirth”

The trip continues in Grenada, and the ladies are riding the emotional rollercoaster of sisterhood, secrets, and spiritual shedding.

After a wild night of twerking and bonding, everyone seems to be in good spirits—at least for a moment. Drew and Angela reflect on how nice it was to see the women truly having fun. But the cracks are starting to show in Britt and Kelli’s friendship, especially when Britt confronts Kelli about feeling unsupported, particularly over the donation drama and deeper emotional distance. Kelli wants Britt to rise to her purpose—but also resents her borrowing her glam squad. Their energy feels off, and neither is sure if the other still has her back.

Meanwhile, Phaedra stirs the pot with commentary about glam teams, fake friendships, and even a bit of anatomy humor that takes a wild turn involving hooded clits and KKK comparisons. Porsha, of course, fuels the chaos with jokes and giant sun hats.

While Shamea checks in on her daughter, Kelli receives heavy legal news from her attorney. Drew opens up about her almost-vow renewal, which never happened due to Ralph. Ironically, she and Kelli share the same meaningful date—August 21st.

The group heads to Jab Jab, a powerful cultural celebration rooted in Grenadian resistance history, where they oil up, wear black thongs, and release their inhibitions. It’s messy, meaningful, and liberating. Drew calls it a moment of community and connection; Phaedra simply calls it “blackity black.”

The next morning, there’s oil on everything—clothes, walls, and egos. Britt showers with Phaedra, who helps her clean every crevice (“spread your cheeks!”), and Kelli’s crystal breaks in half—symbolizing the end of a relationship. She decides to throw it into the ocean to let go of the pain.

72 hours later, Kelli is still not divorced… but her ex is in jail. And she hasn’t spoken to Britt since.

Takeaways

The housewives know how to have a good time, even off-camera.
Friendship dynamics can shift quickly in high-pressure situations.
Contradictions in behavior often arise during conflicts.
Cultural celebrations like Jab Jab hold significant meaning.
Phaedra's humor often masks deeper issues within the group.
Glam team drama can strain friendships and create tension.
Personal struggles can overshadow group dynamics.
The importance of community and culture in celebrations.
Reality TV can blur the lines between real and scripted drama.
Future conflicts are likely as unresolved issues linger.


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Wendy (00:00.986)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy. We are talking about Real Housewives of Atlanta, Season 16, Episode Number 15. This is Chapter 3, The Rebirth. This episode starts out with a recap of what happened the night before with the Housewives gone wild when they were gathering around Shemeah.

Kelli (00:03.904)
I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:11.746)
Getting there.

Kelli (00:15.694)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (00:27.534)
and they started doing shots and all the shenanigans that ensued after the shots. Boy, those women really know how to turn up. Like...

Kelli (00:36.888)
I'll tell you what, and they are smart, these Atlanta women. I mean, we wind up seeing it anyway, but when the cameras go down is really when they pop off. And it's, I'm so glad we get to see it because it just, that night when they were like showing us what wasn't on camera, but was on camera, I thought about the Bolo night. Like they just have so much.

Wendy (00:47.672)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (00:51.726)
Yeah.

Wendy (00:58.466)
Right. Yeah.

Kelli (01:03.682)
fun together, like they can really put their shit aside and have a good time.

Wendy (01:08.536)
Yeah, it's true. And that's kind of what they were saying too. Like that's what they like. Like they like just having fun and laughing and you know, partying with these women. And that's what they need to do more of. They really do. Yeah. mean, Angela's sitting there talking to Drew and she's like, this is the first time like I've really had a good time with all these ladies. Because the last time they did it, they were talking about Angela. Like she was upstairs sleeping.

Kelli (01:15.575)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:22.894)
100%. Yeah.

Kelli (01:33.228)
Yeah.

Wendy (01:38.2)
You know, like this time she was actually participating, which was good. I mean, and the twerking, those girls should give a class on twerking. Cause I have never, I mean, I don't, I couldn't learn even if like there was a remedial remedial class, I still would not have the ability. Cause I don't have the part, I don't have the parts. You need to have the parts to have the ability. I don't have the parts or the ability. Like I just couldn't do it. But boy, exactly.

Kelli (01:38.412)
Yeah, she heard him.

Yes, for sure.

Kelli (01:53.1)
Yeah, me neither.

Kelli (02:00.78)
Yeah, me neither. I have a flat ass and no rhythm. So I'd be fucked. But I love watching them.

Wendy (02:08.154)
I do too. I do too.

Kelli (02:14.55)
when they were showing the, wait, wait, we didn't get there yet.

Wendy (02:20.58)
So Angela says to Drew, she's like, know, Britt was really very, you know, very sincere and with her, you know, her,

what she was saying to Shemeah until I looked at your face, Drew. And Drew's like, you mean her performance? Like, I am not, yes. And that's exactly what we said when we saw it. We're like, that girl is acting. Are you kidding me?

Kelli (02:40.556)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:44.222)
Exactly. That's all that was.

Kelli (02:51.914)
Yeah, she was going in.

Wendy (02:53.722)
It was bad. I mean, I'm glad that obviously they all recognize it because they know who she is. that's, And this is also where we find out that, you know, we thought that Britt and Kelly were close, right? But, you know, we see a little bit of it when they're going at Britt at the table about what her donation was and Kelly did not stand by her.

Kelli (03:01.229)
Yeah.

Kelli (03:10.861)
Yeah.

Wendy (03:22.562)
I will say on the after show, it was a little bit contradictory about that whole situation because Portia, did you watch the after show? So Portia and Phaedra were there with Britt on the after show and they were both saying like, yeah, we don't think you should be talking about, you know, what the donation is. It's just the fact that you donate. But then they cut to all the clips where those two were talking about it too.

Kelli (03:46.35)
Oh yeah, and Phaedra is the one who said minimum $1,000. It was totally contradictory. Somebody should have played that real back for Phaedra because she, yeah, 100 % contradictory.

Wendy (03:51.137)
Exactly, exactly.

Wendy (03:58.393)
Yeah.

Wendy (04:02.306)
Yeah, yeah, and even Kelly, she's like, well, I told her off camera. I was telling her off camera and she means like, pulled her aside. Like I didn't want to bring this on camera. I'm like, you guys all put it on camera. What are you talking about?

Kelli (04:16.566)
Yeah, yeah, Shemeah did take her out or something. Shemeah did say that. And maybe Kelly did too, but they were talking shit on camera about it. There's no doubt.

Wendy (04:29.626)
They definitely were. definitely were. We see Sheme is on the phone with her mom and she's getting an update on how Shiloh's doing and what happened. Good news is Shiloh

Kelli (04:40.366)
Were you thinking the same thing? don't you think they should be a little bit careful how they're talking about this woman? Because she's probably part of an agency, and it probably wouldn't be too hard to find out what agency. And I feel like they're saying a little bit too much on TV about it.

Wendy (04:58.458)
I really didn't give that too much thought to be honest with you. I was gonna say Shiloh doesn't have a fever today but on the after show Sheme was saying she didn't even want to, she didn't want to have that conversation. She didn't know that she was on speakerphone when she answered the phone. Like she didn't...

Kelli (05:15.232)
And she could be saying that because she's getting a little bit of heat from this agency. I'm telling you, because it would not be hard for somebody if they really wanted to find out what agency she was talking about. And they're basically slandering the agency.

Wendy (05:26.147)
Yeah.

Wendy (05:31.0)
Well, mean, yes and no, because there's no agency mentioned, right? We had this discussion the other day, you and I, was not on the podcast, but we had the discussion about slander and defamation, right? You have to, you really have to, it's hard to prove and you really have to name, and there was no names given. There was no names. There was no names. So I think she's okay with that respect. I could see that.

Kelli (05:41.932)
Right, and yeah, it's hard to prove.

Kelli (05:49.112)
That's true. That's true.

Wendy (05:57.858)
And again, when we first heard it, we thought like we were an abusive situation. know, Shemeah's mom did say like, you know, the nurse, like she was at the North Pole, she had on a heating blanket and a hat. So the room was cold. She was acknowledging that, which again, you're in Georgia. Like why? Why is the room so cold?

Kelli (06:02.892)
Right.

Kelli (06:14.158)
Right.

Kelli (06:20.194)
This is why, like I mentioned it before, and I'm not trying to defend anybody, and clearly this was a situation that obsessed Shemeah, does the baby have some kind of medical condition where the provider thought that the baby being cold would help that? You know what I'm saying? It's just odd that the woman's all bundled up and the baby's not. It kind of doesn't make sense.

Wendy (06:38.658)
Yeah, I mean...

Wendy (06:44.374)
It is odd and it is odd and I will, yeah, it is odd. don't know. I don't know the specifics of the situation. I don't.

Kelli (06:54.636)
I mean, either way, Shemeah was very upset about it and it was a situation and thankfully she has a good caring husband who took care of it while she was away.

Wendy (06:59.545)
Right.

Wendy (07:03.802)
Yeah, and the good thing is that the baby's doing better the next day, which is very good, right?

Kelli (07:07.638)
Right. Right.

Wendy (07:10.874)
Then the next thing we see is Cynthia and Portia are in their room talking and then Phaedra comes in. Boy Phaedra, she really can stir it up, huh? She like...

Kelli (07:21.838)
Why is she constantly coming for fucking Angela calling her a math teacher now? Why is she doing that?

Wendy (07:27.426)
Yeah, she said she gives questions like she's Barbara Walters. I don't know. I don't know.

Kelli (07:33.45)
I mean, and you know, I think next week, I think Phaedra alludes to Charles cheating.

Wendy (07:40.536)
I do too, once we saw, yeah, I do too. She must have something when she starts the season out with them, you know, when we start seeing her. She must have something in her back pocket. That's why she's dropping all these little hints, right?

Kelli (07:41.774)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (07:52.93)
Mm-hmm. Right.

Wendy (07:57.443)
We find out that Phaedra likes to go to sleep to true crime TV. Okay. That is crazy.

Kelli (08:02.882)
That's crazy. I like to go to sleep to Jason Stevenson meditation. By the way, I have a hard time falling asleep. People are up in my house all hours of the night. I got these new, it's a headband with earbuds in it. Because if I wear these, my ears hurt. I can't like, you know, sleep on my side. So I just got that. I've been sleeping soundly for the past two nights, snoring like a bear.

Wendy (08:07.898)
Ha!

Wendy (08:21.298)
Wendy (08:33.018)
That's awesome. That's awesome. Good for you. Yeah, yeah. We'll put a link. We'll put a link in our podcast. I mean, we won't make any money on it, but we'll give you the link. But we'll give you the link. Somebody's going to make money, but it's not going be us.

Kelli (08:34.51)
Sidebar.

Kelli (08:41.698)
We will put a link. What do I care? Not a dime. Not a damn dime. a story of our lives.

Wendy (08:59.332)
So she wants to know, Phaedra wants to know what's going on with Shemeah and the donation. And this next thing that she said, I just died. She's like, the African starter kit is a Rolls Royce, an AP bust down, and some Ferragamos. And if you don't have them, you can't be African. I was like, wait, AP bust down? And thank God Cynthia asked, like, what's an AP bust down?

Kelli (09:20.162)
What?

Wendy (09:25.432)
And they're like, it's diamonds, it's dancing diamonds. And again, I'm still not exactly sure. Are the diamonds on your wrist? Are the diamonds in the, are they in the Rolls Royce? Are they in the, like, I don't, I still don't know what it is, but I mean, we don't have the starter kit because we're not African. So we're going to have to get, reach out to our African listeners. Can you guys let us know, please explain to us? Yes, please.

Kelli (09:30.478)
don't know what that is.

Kelli (09:37.452)
What is going on? Yeah.

Kelli (09:44.984)
Yeah.

Kelli (09:48.994)
Yeah, break it down. Break it down for us.

Wendy (09:51.716)
Please, just don't get it. I don't get it. I mean, I thought it was hysterical, even though I don't know exactly what she was talking about. Yeah. And then Phaedra went on to say, Atlanta is so scammer. We had to go cashless in the city. You'll get trick or treated in Atlanta, but there's more trick than treating. So it sounds like, I don't know what's going down in Atlanta, but it sounds like a whole lot of scammings going down in Atlanta.

Kelli (09:54.126)
We don't got it.

Kelli (09:59.758)
It sounded really funny.

Kelli (10:21.716)
It does, and she really, I mean, lover or hater, she is funny, Phaedra.

Wendy (10:21.826)
I don't know.

Wendy (10:27.386)
She really is funny. She really is. She is.

Kelli (10:30.392)
People are not enjoying her on the show though. Have you seen that on social media? I mean, people are actually saying that the season took a dive after she came on.

Wendy (10:35.137)
No, I didn't see that.

Wendy (10:42.741)
no, I don't- I do not agree. I don't agree.

Kelli (10:45.026)
I don't agree either. I think it's a great season of Atlanta. I'm glad you talked me into watching it.

Wendy (10:49.496)
Yeah, I do too. Listen, I've always maintained I like Phaedra. I just think she's funny. Like she's one of the housewives that I would want to hang out with. I would have so much fun with her. I really would.

Kelli (11:01.08)
definitely have fun with her. I do hope Kenya comes back though.

Wendy (11:05.11)
I think she might. I think we might see her back. I think we might see her back. So then she says she has a little T on Brit and she keeps calling her Tinkerbell.

Kelli (11:06.743)
I think she might too.

Kelli (11:14.787)
Is that who's call- she's calling Tinkerbell or is she calling Kelly Tinkerbell? Okay, okay.

Wendy (11:16.302)
She's calling Kelly. She's calling, yeah. She's got to see on Brit and Tinkerbell because Tinkerbell is Kelly and she does not want Brit using the same glam team that she has. She's calling her the fake Frick and Frack, but.

Kelly tells us that she introduced her to her glam team. So until she got her own. And then Kelly says also that, you know, she had a meeting, a private meeting with her glam team and she wasn't happy about that. So I'm very confused about the whole situation.

Kelli (11:54.264)
So Kelly introduced Britt to, first of all, this is the big T, like first of all, who gives a fuck, right? Nobody cares about this, but let's break it down. So Kelly introduced Britt to her glam team and said, use them until you get somebody. And then got mad that Britt had a private meeting with her glam team. Was the private meeting, work for me and stop working for her because,

Wendy (11:59.82)
Yeah, right. No. Okay.

Wendy (12:09.806)
Right.

Kelli (12:21.24)
Dolores and Tamra were talking about it today and they said that that does happen. Where one cast mate will try to hijack your glam team from you.

Wendy (12:32.431)
That's insane

Kelli (12:34.04)
So if that's what Brit did, then yeah, that's kind of messed up. But is that what she did?

Wendy (12:41.028)
I just can't see Britt doing that. I can't see her doing that. I really can't. mean...

Kelli (12:45.592)
she have the money for a glam team?

Wendy (12:48.152)
Like, does she have the money and why would she do that? Like, what would, you know? It doesn't make sense. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I think that that's crazy.

Kelli (12:51.894)
Yeah.

Kelli (12:55.98)
Yeah.

I mean, I think this will come up at the reunion. Is it warranted? Probably not, but it's gonna come up at the reunion.

Wendy (13:02.872)
Yes, I do. No. Phaedra told Britt what she was doing was weird. I thought that was funny. And then she also said that her nipple was inverted and it just popped on out. And then Portia said, like Cynthia, like your clit. was, I seriously like my jaw dropped.

Kelli (13:26.57)
I mean, what an asshole.

Wendy (13:32.664)
I was like, wait, what?

Kelli (13:33.466)
my God, to say that on TV and for Cynthia to not tell the producers, don't you dare fucking film, like release that.

Wendy (13:44.004)
Don't, yeah, yeah. Listen, I love Cynthia. I love Cynthia. I really do.

Kelli (13:50.188)
Me too, I think that was so messed up. Not that it's a big deal, but who wants the characteristics of their genitalia out for the whole world to know?

Wendy (13:54.752)
No, but it's a private thing!

Wendy (14:05.144)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (14:07.042)
That was crazy.

Wendy (14:10.68)
Yeah, and even the fact now that you mentioned that, that Phaedra mentioned it about Britt, considering those pictures were out, and she's now maintaining those pictures weren't even of her?

Kelli (14:15.756)
Yeah!

Kelli (14:23.096)
but she's suing for defamation. But it wasn't her. But I wonder if Phaedra's comment was brought up in that lawsuit.

Wendy (14:32.727)
I wonder too. And then Cynthia's like, Lord. And then she's like, no, it's hooded. And then Phaedra says, like, your clit is like a KKK.

Kelli (14:45.112)
What does that mean? hooded,

Wendy (14:47.918)
What does that mean?

Kelli (14:52.512)
I'm so late to the party. did not, I did not catch that. I did not catch that. I heard them say that over and over again, but I'm like, what fuck are they talking about? Okay.

Wendy (15:05.902)
That was a conversation. I know. And quick, like, that's what it is. She's so quick. She's so quick.

Kelli (15:06.222)
See what I mean? She's so witty that Phaedra. And she's quick. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wendy (15:17.785)
So then we see Britt goes into Kelly's room and she's trying to talk to Kelly to find out like, you know, are you my friend? Or like, why don't you have my back? But Kelly's so wrapped up. Yeah, but Kelly's so wrapped up in that she's getting divorced next, she's, you know, she has trial next week and she's getting divorced and she has to talk to her attorney and she's got a lot on her mind and you know, it's gonna be a life changing moment. So she's really kind of like dismissing Britt.

Kelli (15:27.404)
Yeah, like she was upset about the dinner the night before.

Wendy (15:45.524)
And Britt's telling her that she felt a different energy and she's like, you know, she's kind of dismissing it because of the lawyer situation and the divorce. But I think that that's not really what it was about because we see that, you know, she said all that stuff. Like she's trying to say that she didn't, but she did. Like we saw her say it. And she's also saying, you know, I just think that, you know, you could have showed up a little more.

Kelli (15:56.077)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:06.392)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (16:13.412)
Kelly says that to Britt, I think you could have showed up a little, you could have showed out a little more because you did tell us at your party that your entire team, you got them plastic surgery. And I think you have a bigger purpose.

Kelli (16:24.632)
Right.

Kelli (16:29.27)
Listen, basically Britt's pretending to be something she's not. You're sitting at a table with eight other women or however many other women and telling them that you took your whole team to Miami and got them plastic surgery. Meanwhile, you have 40 other people in this room who are not allowed to eat or sit down. Like, what?

Wendy (16:38.926)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (16:43.086)
Yes.

Wendy (16:51.414)
Exactly.

Kelli (16:55.182)
And then rolling up in your Rolls Royce or whatever you're rolling up in with empty boxes. I get what they're saying. They don't want the fakeness. She's being fake. She's putting on a show.

Wendy (16:59.8)
Right. Right.

Wendy (17:10.936)
Right. Right. Well, then just say that. Then just

Kelli (17:14.178)
But I think Kelly was trying to say that without being rude and upsetting her. Show out.

Wendy (17:24.771)
Right.

I guess, because then Britt says, you know, I feel like you're using your team, like your hair, your glam, and your security as like a shield.

Kelli (17:35.51)
What does that mean, though?

Wendy (17:38.112)
I know. mean, how is she using it like a shield? She introduced you to them and you did use them and

It doesn't make sense.

Kelli (17:51.342)
Yeah, like I don't understand this whole glam thing. Did you not want her to use them, but you introduced them, but then are you mad she had a private meeting? But she can't pay them. So what are you worried about?

Wendy (17:54.136)
I don't either. I don't either.

Wendy (18:03.042)
Right, what are you worried about?

Kelli (18:05.58)
And how much money does Kelly have that she's got a whole glam team, by the way?

Wendy (18:09.54)
You know, the interesting thing is I looked up, I don't know why or it was in something I was reading, like Kelly's net worth. I mean, it said that her net worth was like a million dollars and her ex's was like 600,000. And he's starting his own chicken place. He did start his own chicken place. I saw that too. Hold on, I think.

Kelli (18:32.11)
So you can roll with a glam squat? guess maybe, you know, you're going away. Well, it's not when you're roll, like she's, you know, getting her daughter 17 designer bags. That could be $100,000 right there for her birthday.

Wendy (18:35.694)
I mean, to me, a million is not that much money. I'm just saying.

Wendy (18:48.698)
Yes, so I looked it up. I looked him up on Instagram. It's called recipes established since 1972. Uncle Butch's Chicken and Waffles, where every flavor tells a Cajun story. And just take a look at this. That's him. Look at that face. does that... Does he look like the face of someone you want to buy chicken from?

Kelli (19:07.715)
That's him.

Kelli (19:12.354)
He reminds me of someone I can't think of who though. I'll think of it.

He don't look like the face of I want to do anything with.

Wendy (19:20.57)
I'm just like, what?

Kelli (19:23.49)
I just, it's so, funny to me that her restaurant is Nana's and I had my Nana and his is what, Uncle Butch's? And everybody calls my father Butch. My father is Uncle Butch. That's pretty funny. Yeah, he reminds me of somebody and I can't think of who. I'll think of it.

Wendy (19:30.178)
Uncle Butch is. You got it Uncle Butch?

there you go. Yeah, that is funny.

Wendy (19:44.538)
I don't know, does not look, he doesn't look very friendly. I'll just say that, he doesn't look very friendly.

Kelli (19:48.8)
No, no, I hope that's not like the picture he's putting on his product because it's not very inviting. Like smile.

Wendy (19:54.211)
I know.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. like, is what I go, that's what I saw on his Instagram. Like, that's what you're putting on your Instagram. Like what? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So then the ladies are all outside at the swimming pool and there's a bar out there. It's actually Angela and Portia out there at this point. Then Sheme and Kelly show up wearing matching print bathing suits and coverups. And they're...

Kelli (20:04.867)
You want people to come there, maybe smile.

Kelli (20:24.958)
Angela says Brit's gonna be mad.

Wendy (20:27.606)
Yep, that was so funny. That's so funny.

They agree that they're gonna make a pact that they're not gonna fight anymore and that they're gonna be more like, you the sisterhood and the energy that they had the night before. Which I hope that they can follow through on that because I think that that's way better than, you know, the silliness that we see. But we kind of know that that's not what happens because, yeah, it is a nice thought. Then we see Brandon, he's the tourism minister and he comes to meet the ladies.

Kelli (20:52.458)
It's not going to happen, but it's a nice thought, ladies.

Wendy (21:03.352)
He's who they organized all the donations through. And they announced that. And did you see the look on Britt's face when they announced that? She was just like, ugh.

Kelli (21:13.634)
Yeah. Well, the funny thing is that Brit comes in late, right? Nobody knows where Brit is and she comes in late and she comes in at the same time that this guy is there announcing. So you know damn well producers were like, no, no, no, don't go yet. Don't go yet. They were probably telling Brit not to go until that guy got there.

Wendy (21:19.673)
Yes.

Wendy (21:29.348)
Yeah.

Yeah, you're probably right. You're probably right. So they're talking about going to this celebration called the Jab-Jab, where they oil up their bodies. So it's an experience of during slavery, they considered the slaves jabs, which translates as devils. So now they cover themselves with oil and they dance and they celebrate and they're beating down their oppressors. So that is what the Jab-Jab.

Kelli (21:36.941)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (22:03.232)
celebrations all about. They normally start this jab jab celebration at 5 a.m. but because these are Atlanta women and they're not getting up at 5 a.m. to jab jab, no. They were nice enough to give them the nighttime jab jab. It was nice. So Kelly has to go and call her attorney but before she does that she's talking to Drew.

Kelli (22:14.584)
They're not waking up at 5 a.m.

Kelli (22:21.646)
That was pretty nice.

Wendy (22:32.917)
And she's like, I wanted to tell you this. They both have the same wedding anniversary date. And that is crazy. And August 21 is the date. And she's talking about how her ex is on his sixth attorney. And Drew's like, my god, Ralph is on his third attorney. So they are going through the same thing. yeah, Drew's talking about how she's

Kelli (22:39.15)
That's crazy.

Kelli (22:55.286)
a lot of similarities. You know, when you hear Drew talking about Ralph, and I still have my doubts that this is all real. I do think that there's a small chance that Drew and Ralph could be doing this whole divorce separation thing for the show. But I think that the show ruined them. I think that being on the show got to both of them.

Wendy (23:02.456)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:07.45)
Right.

Kelli (23:22.806)
I mean, listen, Ralph's showing up in a confessional. First of all, who's getting a, you don't see Charles Oakley sitting down for a confessional. He doesn't have time for that. But Ralph's showing up with no shirt, with a nice blazer. Like, Ralph, I think that the show got to both of them.

Wendy (23:30.938)
let alone shirtless.

Wendy (23:42.264)
It's possible. It's possible.

Kelli (23:43.618)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:48.974)
so Drew was saying that it, this August was going to be their 10 year anniversary and she was planning on doing a vow renewal. Now that I call bullshit on because at the last reunion, she sang that song to him and right. You were not ha- when, when were you plan- no, no, you, you were not planning. No. Yes.

Kelli (23:59.886)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (24:04.152)
Fringy.

Kelli (24:10.306)
Right, not last season you weren't planning one. And they took a big break, right? Because Candy was on the last season, so they need to figure out what they were doing without Candy.

Wendy (24:19.406)
They took a big break. They took a big break. So no, no, no, you were not, were you planning it five years ago? Like when were you planning the vow renewal? Like when? Because that is not what we saw. Angela asked Britt if she's okay and she, I don't even know if she answered. But then we see Portia brings out that huge hat for a photo shoot moment for Shemeah.

Kelli (24:28.13)
Right. Right.

Kelli (24:33.069)
Mm-mm.

Kelli (24:48.974)
Do you think she bought that hat there or do you think that she shipped the hat? Did they take a private jet there? We don't know.

Wendy (24:57.125)
I don't remember.

Kelli (24:59.448)
That's a big hat to travel with.

Wendy (25:02.02)
That's a big ass hat. That is a big ass hat.

Kelli (25:05.26)
I'm hoping she bought it there and didn't have to pay for the travel expenses for it.

Wendy (25:09.846)
Yeah, that was a big hat. mean, earlier she had showed that hat to Cynthia, like she was playing with that hat earlier with Cynthia. So that hat was there. But, I mean, I, listen, that was nice of her to let Shemeah use that for her photo shoot. mean, the hat was bigger than Shemeah. Let's be real. mean.

Kelli (25:16.61)
Yeah. It was there.

Kelli (25:29.09)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (25:32.25)
Then Kelly's on the phone with her attorney. She said her ex isn't making it easy for her and she doesn't want her children to see what she's going through, which I totally understand. Like you don't want the kids to know what's happening. So she's trying to hide that from them. So the ladies are all getting ready to go to the Jab Jab party and they come down in those bikinis with the thongs and the all in black.

Kelli (25:42.222)
Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

Kelli (25:58.296)
Well, it looked like, it looked like, like dominatrix. Yeah, it reminded me of billions.

Wendy (26:06.287)
yes, yes it did. It did definitely look like that.

Yes, it definitely had a, yes. They were all concerned about, know, cause they're gonna all be covered in oil and you know, everything's gonna have to be thrown out. So Cynthia's worried about her hair. So she comes up with hair condoms. She puts her hair in braids and she, I did watch the after show. I didn't, no, I didn't finish it actually. I didn't finish it.

Kelli (26:31.074)
Did you watch the after show?

Did you see what they were?

Kelli (26:39.234)
Her tight, they were her leggings, like her tights. She cut them. She said she washed them first, she cut them, and then she did what she had to do.

Wendy (26:42.383)
that's so funny.

Wendy (26:49.004)
Okay, that's so funny.

Kelli (26:51.702)
I mean, listen, I don't blame her because...

Wendy (26:53.59)
I don't blame her either, that hair is expensive. You don't want that all covered up in oil and shit? No, I don't blame her.

Kelli (26:56.747)
Exactly.

Right. Right.

Wendy (27:03.45)
She's so funny

Kelli (27:05.421)
That jab jab looked fun though.

Wendy (27:08.183)
It looked a bit intense though.

Kelli (27:10.614)
It looks very intense. I don't know if we were on that truck, if it would have gotten as intense, but with these ladies, was getting that intense. With Portia and Phaedra on the truck, it's getting intense. And I loved when Phaedra said, somebody's getting pregnant. Yeah, I think I'm pregnant.

Wendy (27:17.427)
Wendy (27:23.064)
Yes.

Yeah, she said she was. She's like, think we're all getting pregnant. And she was referring to that one particular dancer guy too.

Kelli (27:35.438)
I mean, there were some hookups on that truck.

Wendy (27:38.894)
That was crazy. That was crazy. That was crazy. And before they even get there, they're all like doing shots. They're doing shots at the house. They're doing shots on the way there. Like they're all doing shots. I think that's what it is. You know what? I couldn't hang with them. I could not hang with them. No, I could not hang with them. I couldn't. No.

Kelli (27:40.654)
crazy.

Kelli (27:56.27)
I don't know if I could either, I'll be honest with you. And I can hold my liquor, but I don't know.

I don't know.

I feel like they'd be like, you know what, white girl?

Wendy (28:10.298)
I just, I don't, yeah, I could not hang with them. They, they, no.

Kelli (28:13.838)
You gotta go.

I would really, really want to though. Yeah.

Wendy (28:21.078)
I would want to too. would have fun. I don't need to keep up with them. I just want to hang with them. I could not keep up with them. No, I know. I know. I don't even think I could drink half as much as they did, to be quite honest with you.

Kelli (28:26.21)
Well, I don't think we could. I think that's just an unattainable goal right now.

Kelli (28:40.012)
I know, they're so fun though.

Wendy (28:41.85)
They really are. Phaedra's saying it's black and, oh, what she say? All right, this is what she said. Everyone is drenched in the black oil and inter-confessional. Drew said it's everything. It's like it's community, it's culture where everyone is dancing and grinding on each other. Phaedra said it's black and it's black, black, black. And Portia said, we are liberated people and we should be able to celebrate ourselves and do whatever we want. I totally agree.

Kelli (29:06.762)
I agree with that, hell yeah.

Wendy (29:08.824)
The next day we see like the remains of their clothing and their costumes and their accessories and we see.

Kelli (29:15.096)
That must have been some job getting all that oil.

Wendy (29:18.21)
We see the black oil on the walls, on the towels, in the showers. It's just everywhere. It's everywhere. Britt said that she had to go into the shower with Phaedra and spread her cheeks.

Wendy (29:35.332)
Phaedra said she saw every nook and crevice of her and got her clean. I was like, my god, Phaedra.

Wendy (29:45.518)
Meanwhile, when she started the trip, she was talking about how she saw her birth canal. She saw Brit's birth canal. Well, you know what?

Kelli (29:49.356)
Yeah, yeah, Who was it on the after show? Somebody was talking about how after you give birth and that person comes in. Was that on the after show? Was it Phaedra maybe? And she was making that comparison to Brit, but that is, I've always said this and I had C-sections, but I would imagine it's the same if you had a vaginal birth. It is the most humbling experience after you have a child for those nurses to come in.

Wendy (29:58.252)
yeah.

Kelli (30:19.274)
and clean you basically the way that they do. It is a very humbling experience and God bless them for it. But somebody I think on the after show was making a reference to that compared to what Britt did for Phaedra.

Wendy (30:27.084)
Yeah. yeah, definitely.

Wendy (30:34.282)
Yeah, yeah. I mean, she really she got in there. She got dirty. She did what she needed to do.

Kelli (30:39.086)
She did what she needed to do.

Wendy (30:44.526)
So then they're talking at, I guess it's breakfast, and Kelly said that she just, she didn't even get completely clean, she just wants to go home. She actually doesn't wanna go home because she doesn't wanna live in her reality, right? Because when she gets home, she's gonna have to deal with the attorney and what's really going on. And she said after she got off the phone with the attorney, her crystal broke in half, which I thought, wow, that's...

Kelli (30:47.758)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:07.66)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (31:11.182)
That's pretty telling and she Googled it and what it symbolizes is the end of a relationship, which, you know, those crystals are powerful.

Kelli (31:15.95)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:19.544)
They sure are.

Wendy (31:21.08)
So she says she feels like she needs to go throw the crystal in the ocean. So they all go down to the railing and they throw the crystal in the ocean. And she's going to leave it there in Grenada. And then we see that.

Kelli (31:32.514)
They freeze halfway through, right?

Wendy (31:35.618)
Yeah. Then we see 72 hours later, Kelly is not divorced and we see her talking and he went to jail today. And also that Kelly has not spoken to Britt since Grenada. I don't we don't know. Like there's they gave us like like bits and pieces of what's going to happen.

Kelli (31:58.146)
Yeah, mean, says something to her. we've seen a scene coming up of Britt saying nasty things to her, but we don't know what happened before that.

Wendy (32:07.488)
Right. So next episode, I'm assuming it's the finale. They didn't say the finale, but it has to be.

Kelli (32:13.324)
They didn't say the finale, it's probably not because they didn't say it.

Wendy (32:16.442)
It may not be, we'll have to wait and see. But I'm curious to see what happens. How did he wind up in jail? I mean, know he'd already threatened her in the courtroom and already went to jail for that and was out. So something else must have happened.

Kelli (32:31.81)
Right. I mean, could just be he didn't pay child support or something. You know, there might be a warrant out for him for not paying child support.

Wendy (32:39.172)
But if it wasn't finalized, then that's not usually finalized either.

Kelli (32:44.664)
Well, even when they're separated though, he might be responsible for paying her something, right?

Wendy (32:51.958)
Maybe. I mean, but what's the point of putting him in jail? I mean, he's not gonna be making any money there. Right. I don't know. I feel like it had to be something violent for... That's what I'm thinking. Like it had to be some sort of violence for him to go to jail right then and there. I mean, I could be wrong, but I don't know. We'll have to wait and see. We'll have to wait and see what happens. So until next week, we'll have to wait and see. I don't have anything else about this, do you?

Kelli (32:56.846)
She's not gonna be getting paid that way,

Kelli (33:01.975)
major.

Kelli (33:08.396)
Yeah. No, you're probably right. Yeah.

Kelli (33:21.73)
I do not.

Wendy (33:22.88)
Okay. Thank you for watching and listening. Bye.

Kelli (33:27.768)
Bye.