RHOA- Lap Dogs & Loose Lips

Wendy (00:00.962)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.903)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:05.474)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Atlanta, season 16, episode number 12, The Frack is Back. I think it's a good title.

Kelli (00:16.718)
Can we just talk about Angela's tagline now? I don't really love taglines all the time, but hers, I really like. If you wanna find the shade, just look for the oak. And I really like it, because I think she gives good shade. She's not pager level with her shade, but I see potential there.

Wendy (00:27.158)
What is hers?

Wendy (00:31.694)
that is good.

Wendy (00:40.462)
Yeah, no, that's a good one. I like it. I like it. We start out with Kelly going over to Shamia's house and she calls her up and says, hey, best friend, where are you at? And she's in the backyard at the pool, but I was just surprised to see that they're calling each other best friends.

Kelli (00:42.006)
Yeah, me too.

Kelli (01:01.006)
Well, Shemeah said in the beginning of the season, like she likes to get down with Kelly. I mean, it was Kelly and Britt at the time, but I think that's changed. And it's gonna change even more between Kelly and Britt. But I think Kelly and Shemeah just got off well. They're both like good time girls. They like to have fun. Me too. They're each popping a bottle, so that day was gonna be fun.

Wendy (01:06.392)
Yeah.

Wendy (01:10.369)
Yeah.

Wendy (01:18.838)
Yeah, I'm happy to say it. I'm happy to say it. they... Yes, yes they are. Yeah. They're talking about hosting a trip together and they're gonna be co-host and they're gonna go to Grenada, which is the island of spice. I liked that they had mentioned that they recently had a hurricane there and they wanna do things to bring some relief items there.

Kelli (01:48.141)
Yeah.

Wendy (01:48.152)
to the people. I was like, that's so nice.

Kelli (01:50.848)
Yeah, to provide aid and relief to those who were affected by the hurricanes, yeah.

Wendy (01:55.36)
Yeah, and they know somebody there, so they call up and see what it is that they could bring, what's needed. I was like, I love that they're doing that.

Kelli (02:03.351)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (02:05.454)
Kelly starts talking about her divorce and she's almost coming up to her divorce date and it's been two and a half years.

Kelli (02:15.646)
$158,000, $158,000. That might be what she's making her first season on this show.

Wendy (02:21.101)
I don't think she's making that much. You don't make that much your first season.

Kelli (02:24.472)
That's what I'm saying, she might not even be baking that much.

Wendy (02:26.794)
No, yeah, no, she's not. She's not making that much her first season. That's a lot of money.

Kelli (02:31.544)
That's a lot of money.

Wendy (02:34.036)
I mean, I hope she gets her date and she gets everything that she's looking for that she can be done with this, because that's craziness.

Kelli (02:37.73)
Me too. Me too.

Wendy (02:42.775)
Then we see Porsche, Diane and Lauren are all looking at a house.

Kelli (02:48.216)
Does this triple dynamic not like totally remind you of Lexi Wood and her mother and sister?

Wendy (02:54.752)
It does, but on a different level.

Kelli (02:57.61)
sure, on a different level. But I think Lexi's going to get to that level. I sure do.

Wendy (02:59.651)
Yeah.

Wendy (03:03.022)
You think so? So it's an eight bedroom, seven bathroom house and it's $4.2 million.

We see that in 2021, Portia and Simon were shopping together and looking for a house. The one I guess that she's living in now and she's not sure. I guess depending on what happens with the divorce, she needs to have a backup plan, right? Because if she loses the house or she has to pay for the house, because I don't know how the house was being paid for.

Kelli (03:35.768)
I mean he doesn't have any damn money right? Aren't we finding this out now?

Wendy (03:39.502)
I think so. think that's the case that there's no money. we'll have to wait and see.

Kelli (03:43.394)
Right.

So, did you hear her say he has six kids?

Wendy (03:50.018)
Yes, I was surprised to hear that.

Kelli (03:52.994)
Me too.

Wendy (03:54.754)
Yeah.

So she wants to have options. This is the first house that she looked at. She starts talking about her marriage to Cordell that, you know, she gave up everything just to be done with him. Like she left that marriage with nothing. So when she got married to Simon, she set it up so that if she was gonna get divorced, she was gonna be fine, which explains why she said that she filed for divorce right away when she found out there was...

things going on that she didn't know about so that her prenup could kick in. So the fact that she got the prenup, she learned from her mistakes with her marriage to Cordell. So I give her kudos for learning.

Kelli (04:39.278)
Plus, listen, he was an ex-ball player. She wasn't any, like no, I don't mean this disrespectfully, but she wasn't who she is today. She didn't have any coin in the bank. I think her family, I think she does have some, right? Like I think her, yeah. Yeah, but not what she has now. So back then, to fight him in the court was probably more difficult.

Wendy (04:48.385)
No.

Wendy (04:54.474)
money. I think so. Her grandparents, yes. I think that, yes.

Wendy (05:06.742)
And I think she just didn't even, right, I don't even think she had it in her. Like they weren't married that long.

Kelli (05:10.988)
Right. Yeah. I remember he was a dick, right?

Wendy (05:17.61)
Yes, yes he was, yes. I mean, we saw them go through counseling together. She wanted to have the baby. It was a whole big thing. No, he was not a good guy. He was not a good guy. He was very controlling. Portia is telling them about the trip and she's saying that her relationship right now with Shemeah is good, that they had the talk. It's just a question of her now at this point letting the ladies know that her and Shemeah are cool.

Kelli (05:18.956)
Yeah, he was a dick.

Kelli (05:28.374)
Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Wendy (05:45.782)
and that they're just letting everything lie and they're just gonna move forward. Which I really hope that's the case, but I have a feeling that it's not.

Kelli (05:53.304)
I think it is either, but I was really hoping it was the case as well.

Wendy (05:56.736)
Yeah. Next we see Kelly is getting a facial and so is her dog Cha-Cha and her daughter Chloe. I mean, this dog, I want to come back as freaking Cha-Cha.

Kelli (06:11.694)
Wait, the best parts were they're like, she might've lost some lashes. She's like, she lost some lashes.

It, Kelly, it's gonna be okay. Because I was thinking, this poor dog. I absolutely hate wearing false eyelashes. I feel like there's something crawling on my eyeballs. I can't see straight. This dog must be like, what the fuck is this woman doing? I'm already low to the ground. I can't even see where I'm going now.

Wendy (06:24.119)
Yes.

Wendy (06:36.618)
Right, right. Facials. Right.

I know, I know. It's so funny. It's so funny what she does with this dog.

Kelli (06:44.952)
Crazy!

Kelli (06:50.452)
no, good for her.

Wendy (06:50.524)
well.

Then we see Shemeah is on the radio station V103 and they're talking about her dropping her new song. And they're kind of throwing a little bit of shade. tell her that another cast member has dropped a song and she's like, well, who? And they're like, well, Drew. And she's like, well, I haven't heard it on this radio station.

Kelli (07:11.448)
thought they said she dropped a track off. Is that what they said?

Wendy (07:15.333)
did they say that?

Kelli (07:16.51)
I thought that's what they said, but I could be wrong. I could be wrong.

Wendy (07:19.01)
I mean, that could be. I mean, I don't know.

Listen, Shemeah said she's got so much going on in her life, she forgets who she's beefing with. Okay, good for you. That's exactly how it should be, right?

Kelli (07:30.496)
I, it should be like that and I feel like sometimes I'm the same way. Cause you know me, I can hold onto a grudge. So I might see somebody from like the elementary school that my kids went to that I beefed with over some PTO bullshit and almost go to smile and then be like, no, no, we're not smiling at you.

Wendy (07:35.383)
Yeah!

You

Wendy (07:50.4)
No, I can't do that. No, No, you crossed me 15 years ago and I will not forget it. I should go.

Kelli (07:55.96)
That's right. That's right. At the F*** off festival. I remember.

Wendy (08:01.368)
Hahaha!

Wendy (08:07.212)
Kelli (08:07.234)
I got you.

Wendy (08:11.534)
That's so funny, you and Shemeah. So then we see Britt is talking about her new line. I thought it was called Bare Naked, but it's called Bare and Naked. Whatever.

Kelli (08:13.742)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (08:24.728)
But you thought it was called bare naked because that's what she keeps calling it. But there's so many other things called bare naked. She probably couldn't get the damn, you know, trademark. So she had to call it bare and naked, but she's not saying that. She's saying bare naked.

Wendy (08:28.482)
Yeah.

Wendy (08:34.315)
Right.

Wendy (08:37.642)
Exactly.

Wendy (08:42.658)
Yes, she is. And it's a shapewear line and she's launching it and she's inviting all the ladies. Then we see Angela and Charles, they are at their fourth investment property. Okay, this was kind of convoluted.

Kelli (08:58.382)
Yeah, but come on, dude, they dropped the price to $338,000. That house would be triple that in Jersey. I'll take that house for $338,000.

Wendy (09:06.68)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (09:10.638)
Yup. it is a four, it is a three bedroom, two and a half bath, 4,256 square foot house. That's just huge. When she started, it was at, when she started showing it to us, it was at 465. But a month ago, they flashed back to her talking to the realtor and she gave him a list of things to do and he didn't get them done. He said, once we get this done, I'm 99.9 % sure it's going to sell. And the listing price at

Kelli (09:20.278)
It's huge!

Wendy (09:39.726)
That time was $4.99. Now, she's dropped it down to, like you said, $3.38. And that's what she paid for the property.

Kelli (09:46.414)
Yep.

and invested all that money into it.

Wendy (09:50.904)
Right.

Then Angela brings up about the story about her mom and her sister that you know that the that she paid she thinks $490,000 for the house her mom and sister were living in and then they left that house and she feels like she did all that work in vain And then she starts crying while she's talking to Charles and said that she spoke to her mother about

about the whole situation with her daughter, but she found out what the fight was about between her mother and Charles because she never really knew. Because I guess Charles told her, but she wasn't there to receive it. It turns out the fight was Charles started saying something about Angela not knowing how to cook and clean or something. And the mom all of a sudden just went off on him. And

He was not having it. He's like, you know, you're not gonna, you're not gonna talk to me in my house like this.

Kelli (10:53.774)
Well, why are you saying your wife can't cook or clean? Well, maybe she can't. Who knows?

Wendy (10:56.598)
Well, I'll be honest with you. I'll be honest with you. When I heard that part of the story, I kind of chuckled. was like, Bill tells my mom that all the time about me. But I always back it up with, you knew that when you married me. That's who I am. I don't cook and I don't clean. This is who you married.

Kelli (11:09.836)
Right! Right!

And you know what, honestly, cause she's made comments before, I bet you Charles is just like OCD where like she does clean, it's just not up to his standards or you know, whatever. Yeah, but that.

Wendy (11:22.112)
His standards. And Bill, yeah, Bill said it to my mom many times, your daughter, doesn't cook or clean. And my mother would get a little defensive about it. And I'm like, mom, don't, don't worry about it. Like there's nothing to get offensive about. This is who I am. He knew, he knows who he married. Right. Exactly. Exactly.

Kelli (11:35.148)
Yeah, right, right. He hasn't left yet, he's not going anywhere. So it can't bother him too bad.

Kelli (11:50.702)
you

Wendy (11:50.926)
I just thought that was interesting because she, you know, she apologized and he's like, listen, I told you what it was about. And he's like, I don't, I don't need to be going back and forth about this, but she really felt bad that this is what the fight was about. Um, he's like, it's all good. Yeah. Yeah. It was a nice moment. Then I was confused. Like she tells him about Britt's event and that he's going to go with her. This is what I was confused about. Why is he going?

Kelli (12:03.458)
Yeah. It was good though, it was good that she, you know, it was a nice moment between them.

Wendy (12:20.12)
There wasn't any other husbands there. What the hell was Charles going for?

Kelli (12:24.344)
basically so that he could clear his name. Yeah.

Wendy (12:28.59)
straighten her out.

Kelli (12:32.62)
Yeah.

Wendy (12:32.642)
Alright, I think that was dumb. I really do.

Kelli (12:35.502)
I mean it was a production move, let's face it. But yeah, because Britt's husband and Charles are the only husbands there.

Wendy (12:39.02)
Yeah, you think they said.

Wendy (12:44.013)
Yeah.

Kelli (12:45.782)
I mean, Shemeah's got a husband. Who else?

Wendy (12:51.333)
Kelli (12:51.498)
Or should know, Drew now. Well really Sheme is the only other one with a husband there. Right? Yeah, so I don't know, but I think.

Wendy (12:57.324)
Right. Yeah.

Wendy (13:04.116)
I don't know, I thought it was, I mean, that's definitely why he was there because that's what happened. I mean, she did get that out, that whole situation, right? But that was the most effed up event I've ever seen. Like Britt, what the hell were you doing? I know you hired this event planner, but the event planner dropped the ball.

Kelli (13:24.782)
So the event decorator put out a statement. She was only there to decorate. She was not in charge of the food. And here's the, so two things. And I've been fortunate enough to frequent a nice fancy golf club in Monmouth County quite a few times because of my boss, basically. And for no other reason.

Wendy (13:29.776)
Wendy (13:49.154)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (13:52.408)
So two things, first of all, you are never getting on the green wearing those shoes. You are not poking hole in those grounds. Number one. Number two, you could never dress that way at a golf club, at least in Jersey. Those dresses were up their asses. You could never walk into a golf club in New Jersey wearing anything near that. Because trust me, if you could, I would.

Wendy (13:58.746)
No.

No.

Wendy (14:20.53)
Okay.

Kelli (14:20.846)
I have nice legs and I like to show them off. You cannot. So I don't know where they were. I don't know where this golf club is in Atlanta, but that's not how we roll in Jersey at golf clubs. How about all the Balenciaga in this episode? Wasn't there like a scandal with Balenciaga?

Wendy (14:40.363)
yeah, that was a couple years ago. Yes, yes there was.

Kelli (14:42.498)
yet Shamia was wearing it, Britt was wearing it.

Wendy (14:47.598)
Yes. Yeah. No, no, I know.

Kelli (14:47.742)
was interesting.

But yeah, this event, there's two things you need to have when you throw an event. And that is good food and good music. You know me, it's my greatest fear in life to host something and not have enough food for everybody. Yep. And the fact that she was gonna feed some of her guests, not only not feed the other guests, she wasn't even gonna let them sit down.

Wendy (15:07.714)
That's a fact.

Wendy (15:17.332)
Sit down! Right, they weren't allowed to sit. While other people are sitting at a table, I was like, what are you doing?

Kelli (15:24.948)
You were going to have these people stand and starve so you could film this.

Wendy (15:32.59)
I know that was so clear and then you hand out gifts. You hand out gifts to the people at the table and nobody else. And like I think it was Shemeah that said there wasn't even tissue paper in the box. There wasn't even tissue paper in the box. There wasn't even a ribbon on it. I mean, what are you doing?

Kelli (15:36.685)
wild.

Kelli (15:46.062)
NOO

Kelli (15:53.262)
is so funny. I can't, like she is, girl, you need to hire an event planner. But yeah, so that event decorator put out a statement and said, I was not the planner of this, I was just there to decorate. Then she gives Angela an extra large.

Wendy (15:54.912)
boy.

Wendy (16:13.571)
my gosh, again, like what are you thinking?

Kelli (16:17.876)
I mean, Brett. I mean, listen, and I would take an extra large. Cynthia maybe because of her height and you know, she's a...

Wendy (16:20.44)
Mm.

Wendy (16:30.552)
Veluptuous.

Kelli (16:31.564)
Yeah, but not Angela.

Wendy (16:34.91)
No, I mean, there was just, that was the worst thrown event I think I've seen on a housewife show in a very long time.

Kelli (16:43.18)
I think you're right, this might go down in Howe's Wife's history. mean, this takes it even from Kenya hosting at that house and only ordering herself food.

Wendy (16:52.438)
Yeah, no, this was worse than that because I mean, were they supposed to be golfing? And if they were, why were only three of them golfing? And why wouldn't you tell them to wear golf attire? And then there's nobody there to even greet the people. And then the tables aren't even ready. It's not even decorated. Like everything about it was wrong. Everything about it was wrong. It was just, So.

Kelli (17:09.57)
Ridiculous.

Kelli (17:13.762)
Yeah, it was bad.

Wendy (17:21.006)
And Portia shows up and she thinks it's gonna start to rain and she says to someone who's sitting there like, what is this event even for? She said, well, I think it's some sort of cosmetic line or something, because it's called something naked. And then in her confessional, the producer asks her if the names of their lines are similar and Portia says, what do you mean similar? I've had my company for 10 plus years. You gotta put some spec on that and then a re in front of it, a re-spec.

I was like, ooh, Portia, that is a read.

Kelli (17:53.9)
Yeah, that was a good read. Very good read. Very, very good.

Wendy (18:00.514)
then they're gonna have a little brunch and Britt's gonna do a presentation, but only 10 of them are gonna have a little brunch. Everyone else is just gonna supposed to be standing there watching.

Kelli (18:10.28)
my God, I mean, humiliating, embarrassing, how, do you have no self-awareness? Do you not know people are gonna be, we're gonna be talking about this forever. We're gonna be talking about this non-event forever.

Wendy (18:16.482)
Yeah.

Wendy (18:20.12)
Yeah.

Wendy (18:25.826)
Yes.

Wendy (18:31.18)
Yes, yeah, I think we are.

Kelli (18:33.878)
I mean, she, don't think she's coming back.

Wendy (18:36.546)
I don't think so either. I don't think so either. then Angela, when she says she gave me an extra large porcelain, that's shady. Angela said, maybe she got confused with the toothbrush for her big ass mouth. I was like, Angela, it really is. It really is.

Kelli (18:48.076)
I mean, that is some good shade. And she does have a big ass mouth. She must have veneers or something.

Wendy (18:55.562)
She does. then when, yeah, I think definitely. Then Porsche asks her what the inspiration was for starting the line. And Britt said, well, when she got herself a BBL a couple of years ago, they use these ugly shapewear pieces and she wanted something that was more for every day. So when she launched her agency a couple of years ago, it was her birthday show. She invited everybody.

that worked for her at the agency to go to Miami and everyone got to pick whatever cosmetic procedure they wanted to have done. What?

Kelli (19:31.886)
What? I don't even remember her saying this. I tune out with this one though.

Wendy (19:34.572)
Yeah, so she invited her entire staff to Miami and they were allowed to get whatever plastic surgery procedure they wanted done. And she, according to her, and she means like, I would have had joined her team.

Kelli (19:43.714)
and she treated them for it?

Kelli (19:50.134)
I don't know if I believe this. I'm gonna need some, I'm gonna need some fact, I'm gonna need some ex-employees of Brit's to call us up and fact check this.

Wendy (19:59.35)
Well, I mean, we can check with her sisters because they were working there. Right? Let's see. Let's see. Put it out there. Have you guys got some plastic surgery on Britt's agency? I'd love to see that. Yeah.

Kelli (20:05.335)
Yeah.

Kelli (20:11.254)
Yeah, please let us know, because I'm not picking up what she's putting down.

Wendy (20:16.556)
Yep. So then Britt asks Angela, you know, how her and Charles are doing. And Angela just announces that Charles doesn't have a side baby. And the look on everyone's face was like, and then Portia's like, this is what happens when people get hungry. They just start hallucinating and talking about side babies and stuff.

Kelli (20:35.779)
Good

Yeah, meanwhile, Porsche is the first one who said, heard something about your husband and we all know what she was talking about. So Porsche, sit down.

Wendy (20:43.232)
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And Britt said, and I'm not one of Charles's whores either. And Charles is like, I don't mess with whores. And Britt said, no, no, she was being funny because when they had the conversation, Angela called her a whore.

Kelli (20:54.425)
huh.

Wendy (21:06.978)
Britt a whore when she had made that comment about Charles. And I guess they spoke about it and it was okay. So Angela was okay with her saying that. It was just her way of kind of, no, absolutely not as he shouldn't have been. He should not have been and she shouldn't have said it to be honest with you. should not, she shouldn't, no, right, no. Because Angela said, we're good to Britt and then Drew thanks Britt for inviting her and said that.

Kelli (21:08.258)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (21:19.746)
I don't think Charles was okay with her saying that.

Kelli (21:26.67)
She should not have said it. That was not, it didn't land.

Wendy (21:35.534)
that those two need to have a conversation. Drew.

Kelli (21:40.962)
feel like Drew is like a non-essential employee at this point. Drew does not fit in with these ladies. She's lying every scene she's in. I'm good on Drew. I think she needs to go.

Wendy (21:43.874)
Yeah.

No.

Wendy (21:53.804)
Yeah, so those two were arguing about how Shemeah called her a lap dog and Drew's like, you repeated something to Portia, not the way it was said about Pilar's college education and the producers asked.

Kelli (22:08.822)
Either way, you said it. You said it. So...

Wendy (22:12.384)
She did say it, it wasn't the way it was said.

Kelli (22:16.596)
No, but you said it. I mean, you're on camera saying it.

Wendy (22:18.356)
Right, no, it was said. Right, right. Producer asked Shemeah, no, Drew, if she stands by, you know, Shemeah being a lap dog and she says that she does. You know, she stands by that.

Wendy (22:33.614)
Then drew at the table

Kelli (22:34.382)
How about them Brit telling them to take their mess outside?

Wendy (22:37.326)
Oh my God, well before that happens, Sheme is barking. Sheme is sitting there barking at the table. Then Sheme is barking and then Britt stands up and announces that this is a classy event and if you ladies need to have some sort of side conversation to do it outside because Sheme was literally, and get gifts, only 10, right. And then Cynthia is like,

Kelli (22:56.056)
Classy event where only certain people get to eat. Right.

Wendy (23:05.442)
looking around and she's in, she's like, I was looking forward to like catching up with these ladies, but this is like, this is ridiculous. Like she took her gift and she said her goodbyes and she was out and I don't blame her. I don't, I mean, was such, grab that gift. You got to grab that gift and go. Yep. Yep. Yeah. That was such a screwed up event. And I don't know, I don't know what Britt thought she was doing by standing up and announcing that.

Kelli (23:12.302)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (23:15.822)
I don't blame her at all. And I like that she Teresa-Judice that shit and grabbed her bag before she left. Yeah, that's right. Grab your swag.

Kelli (23:30.466)
Big time.

Wendy (23:38.198)
Then we see Drew is signing her recording deal. I thought she was at like a record label signing it, but it turns out she was at

Kelli (23:45.224)
I thought she was at her divorce attorneys. I was so confused when she was like, this is a celebration. I'm like, good. They're getting divorced.

Wendy (23:51.286)
Right, no. So it was her attorney's office, not her divorce attorney's, her attorney, I guess her entertainment attorney. Yes. And some other guy is there with her and she says, well, is Dennis gonna be here? Yes. Okay. And he's like, no, he's gonna show up on Zoom. So she's like, well, I wanna talk to him before we do this because I need to clear this up about what he's saying about me, which.

Kelli (23:57.888)
Entertainment attorney, yeah.

Kelli (24:03.832)
Her road manager.

Wendy (24:20.16)
I think she did need to clear that up.

Kelli (24:22.221)
I do too.

Wendy (24:23.874)
So she FaceTimes with Dennis and he said that that did not happen.

Kelli (24:30.062)
but then they flash back and show that it did happen. I mean, is Portia just lying and making it up? But didn't we see the text message?

Wendy (24:40.628)
No, we didn't see the text message. No, we never saw the text message. We only heard what Dennis told Portia and Shemeah. We never saw the text message. Nope.

Kelli (24:42.828)
we didn't.

Kelli (24:51.822)
I swear, no, because it was Shemeah and Portia having dinner with Ralph and I thought Portia showed them the text. She didn't?

Wendy (24:55.47)
Because we even said it.

Wendy (24:59.426)
with Ralph.

No, no, that's what we were saying, that there was never any evidence of this. There was never any receipts.

Kelli (25:07.7)
Okay. So Portia could just be lying.

Wendy (25:12.354)
Well, no, Dennis could just be lying too.

Kelli (25:16.813)
Right.

Wendy (25:18.434)
Dennis could just be lying too.

Kelli (25:19.182)
But if Portia had the text message, because it was a text from Dennis to Portia telling her, no, he supposedly showed, well, Portia told Ralph about the text message, right?

Wendy (25:28.203)
It was Ralph.

Wendy (25:35.35)
Right. About the text message, the text message, no, Ralph, hold on a second.

Kelli (25:37.026)
No.

Kelli (25:43.976)
Yeah, I think Dennis told Portia about the text message and supposedly showed her. I could swear I thought Portia had the text message and then Portia told Ralph about it. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.

Wendy (25:57.582)
No, because then I even remember Ralph was saying that Dennis called him asking permission.

Kelli (26:06.284)
For his, yeah, for his blessing, which we all know is bullshit.

Wendy (26:09.184)
is not true. it's all bullshit. Like, we've not seen anything in writing that substantiates any of these things. It's all he said, she said. Nothing has been, you know, no receipts have been produced.

Kelli (26:16.674)
No. Right.

Kelli (26:22.988)
No, I really think that, I really think they just gotta stop letting Dennis film.

Wendy (26:29.666)
Yeah, I agree.

Kelli (26:31.17)
But then Drew's got nothing. I just... She should go too, though.

Wendy (26:35.468)
Yeah, but she can do her deal without us seeing Dennis. We don't need to see Dennis. I'd rather see her sister and her mother.

Kelli (26:39.438)
Exactly. Exactly.

Yeah, no, me too, but I'm saying like she probably thinks that she needs Dennis to like, you know.

have a story line, know, whatever, have some kind of connection, because now she's just messing with Portia by filming.

Wendy (27:01.91)
Yeah, mean, anyway, they signed the deal and now they're officially working together on this record deal. So they're tied together legally and he's going to be getting paid with actual money, not with sex. So we can put that to bed, right?

Kelli (27:11.458)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (27:16.365)
Right.

Bye.

Wendy (27:21.93)
Then Portia shows up at Phaedra's house and that's, yes. So Phaedra says, the last time you saw me wasn't my best moment. And they cut to the reunion of 2017. And Andy says to Phaedra that you got caught in a megawatt lie. And Phaedra's response to Andy was, obviously I didn't think that this was going to happen like this.

Kelli (27:26.542)
We finally see the slanderer.

Wendy (27:47.782)
And she also admits that everything was good until she decided to play with fire. She said she regrets how she left the group, but you know, he who is without fault can cast the first stone.

Kelli (28:03.064)
So I think it was good that she acknowledged it. However, I don't think she's very remorseful, but she doesn't have to be remorseful because she was back on Bravo in no time. She does not have to be remorseful. She should be, she's not.

Wendy (28:07.021)
I do too.

Wendy (28:15.0)
She doesn't have to be. She doesn't. I think the interesting thing is that her and Portia have remained friends over the years. mean, Portia's the one who threw her under the bus, but she's the one who gave Portia the information and Portia didn't know it wasn't true. Right? But they still remain friends over the years. And...

Kelli (28:33.548)
Right. Right.

Kelli (28:39.264)
I mean, they probably haven't seen each other.

I mean, they're gonna, KiKi now because of the show, they're gonna be fricking frack again, so.

Wendy (28:43.648)
Maybe, maybe not.

Wendy (28:50.754)
Yeah.

Kelli (28:51.32)
but that's just a financially smart move on both their parts for the show.

Wendy (28:56.406)
definitely. Yeah, definitely. Phaedra's talking about how she met Kelly and how she's little, and she really likes little people.

Kelli (29:04.27)
She's giving garden gnome

Wendy (29:14.2)
She says Britt Edie is a woman about town and about the countries, you know, she's so funny. I really like, I mean, she does give good shade.

Kelli (29:19.158)
about the countries.

Kelli (29:25.982)
She does. She says she's had many suitors.

Wendy (29:29.398)
That's right. Portia tells her about the trip that they're going to Grenada and that, you know, she wants to invite her, but Kelly and Shamir are throwing the trip, so they're hosting it. So she calls them up via FaceTime and lets them know that, you know, she's inviting Phaedra and they're happy and, you know, excited that Phaedra's going to be coming. That's the way you invite somebody on a trip that you're not hosting. You get the approval of the hosts, which she did. So...

Kelli (29:52.718)
That's right.

Wendy (29:57.474)
We'll have to see how this trip goes, but Phaedra was on Watch What Happens Live that night with Lala Anthony. Did you get to see any of that? I watched it. There really wasn't that much on there. She did say that she's happy to be back. She thought it was incredible to be back. And she also said, which I thought was interesting, Andy asked her about what she thought of Britt's hosting that.

Kelli (30:05.271)
I didn't.

Wendy (30:21.452)
that event and Phaedra gave her a lot of grace. said, well, she's new to this. You know, we'll teach her. get, we'll get her to where she needs to be. Which I thought that was pretty nice. Yeah. I thought, yep, she sure could have, but she did not. She did not.

Kelli (30:30.85)
That's interesting, because she could have ripped her apart like we just did.

Kelli (30:38.21)
That's interesting. Could you understand in that last scene what she was saying about Charles?

Wendy (30:45.792)
that.

Kelli (30:46.328)
She said, Phaedra said something about Charles, but I couldn't understand her. And I think I even rewound it. And I was like, I got it now.

Wendy (30:53.656)
I mean, I thought the only thing that she said is that, you know, she knows him from around Atlanta and that he's a good guy. I mean, it was asked maybe on Watch What Happens Live about him dating Sheree in the past. And I mean, she kind of acknowledged it on Watch What Happens Live, but she really said a whole lot of nothing. She didn't really acknowledge it, but she didn't not acknowledge it.

Kelli (31:00.439)
Okay.

Kelli (31:17.046)
Right. Right.

Wendy (31:19.374)
So she didn't have anything bad to say about him. She didn't say anything.

Kelli (31:22.552)
Okay, that's what I was wondering. I mean, obviously, what are people gonna say? He's a player? Like, okay, we get it. Like, he's had some bad moments. Yes, he got kicked out of the garden for being drunk. The owner kicked him out. Like, yeah, you know, we know. We already knew that.

Wendy (31:30.603)
Right.

Wendy (31:38.656)
Yeah, no, but she didn't say, she did not say anything bad about him. She did not. Yeah.

Kelli (31:42.56)
Okay. I was just curious.

Wendy (31:45.998)
So I'm excited to see how it plays out now with her and the other women on this cast trip.

Kelli (31:50.584)
There's only five more episodes I heard on 2Ts.

Wendy (31:53.93)
Okay, I believe that because like I said, we're already on episode 12.

Kelli (31:57.422)
Yeah, so that's what they were saying. Tamara was like, they're getting 17 episodes and Dolores was like, that's, you know, compared to Jersey, because I always said it, Jersey gets like 12 or 13 episodes now. And that's like with a three-part reunion. It's crazy. Maybe not, maybe 12 episodes. Absolutely. Yep. If you rewatch some, see.

Wendy (32:14.594)
Well, they used to get 20. They used to get, they used to get 20. They used to get a lot.

Kelli (32:21.698)
You know, it's just in my DVR, I guess they played Jersey last week and all of a sudden I have like 40 episodes of Real Housewives of New Jersey, which don't get me wrong, I'm tempted to watch, but I don't. So I delete them. But yeah, there used to be like 20 episodes a season. But I guess with reunion, we'll probably get 20 out it. We'll have 17 regular episodes, maybe a two-part reunion, because really, what are we gonna talk about?

Wendy (32:48.716)
Yeah, because we can't talk about Kenya because she's not going to be there. So that's the first, what, five episodes?

Kelli (32:50.944)
now. Right.

Yeah, and they haven't filmed the reunion yet, so.

Wendy (32:58.688)
Right. They haven't filmed the reunion yet, so we'll have to wait and see.

Kelli (33:01.592)
Yeah.

Yeah, man.

Wendy (33:05.302)
All right, well, I'm excited now. feel like we're getting a little more like energy back into the show again.

Kelli (33:10.648)
Definitely, definitely. This was a good episode though. I mean, I hate to admit it, but I mean, it was a disaster that you couldn't look away from. Like the whole time at this event, I'm like, I can't believe she's not feeding everyone.

Wendy (33:14.721)
I thought so too.

Wendy (33:25.857)
I know.

Kelli (33:27.766)
It's like what I, it's like what my nightmares are made of.

Wendy (33:31.798)
I know. And not, she didn't even want him to sit.

Kelli (33:35.554)
Didn't want them to sit. She was mad that the people she invited to her event were sitting in chairs.

Wendy (33:43.862)
I know. That's crazy.

Kelli (33:45.078)
I mean, crazy.

Wendy (33:48.942)
crazy.

Alright, so until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (33:58.968)
Bye.