RHOA-Boobs, Baggage, and Blessings

Wendy (00:01.358)
Welcome to We Why Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.773)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:05.538)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Atlanta, season 16, episode number 14. And just as I predicted, chapter two, Renew. We start out the next morning that we all agree that Drew and Portia are moving on. So today's the day to renew. We're not going to revisit that. They are moving on, right?

Kelli (00:15.861)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (00:25.065)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (00:31.731)
Yes. Fingers crossed.

Wendy (00:33.762)
yes, we, we see Angela calling Charles, but he's not answering her because it's her anniversary and he's just not answering.

Kelli (00:44.499)
He is not answering.

Wendy (00:46.37)
We find out that on the way home last night, Britt was vomiting. I thought she was sick. I didn't realize she was sick from alcohol, that she drank too much alcohol until we found

Kelli (00:58.825)
I mean, I can't day drink anymore. I really can't. And so day drinking with shots, tequila. I mean, listen, she had to puke. It's understandable.

Wendy (01:14.24)
No, listen, I agree. first of all, I can't drink tequila at all. And I can't do shots because every time I do shots, I get sick. But I know that. So guess what? I don't do shots. I don't do shots. I don't care. You're not peer pressuring me into doing shots.

Kelli (01:22.717)
Right. You don't do shots, right?

Kelli (01:29.641)
Yeah, I, yeah. Yeah. She was kind of making it like they were peer pressuring her into it.

Wendy (01:31.767)
Right?

Wendy (01:37.378)
Well, that's what she was doing. I mean, she wasn't owning her part in it. Like, you're an adult. Just say no. Right?

Kelli (01:39.433)
Yeah, not at all. Just say no. Yeah.

Wendy (01:46.878)
So, Phaedra's talking about that she was glad that she was, you know, rooming with Britt so she could get to know her, because she didn't really know too much about her. Although she did learn a little bit too much that she doesn't wear a bra or underwear at all that she could literally see in her birth canal. I was like, dear God.

Kelli (02:04.306)
She also said Kelly's boobs are too big.

Wendy (02:07.262)
Well, because she's so teeny tiny. She could fall. The wind's gonna come and blow her over.

Kelli (02:10.856)
Yeah. Exactly.

She says she's so loud.

Wendy (02:19.096)
I'm sorry, but I really, know people don't like Phaedra, but I just, I just find her very entertaining. I do, I really do.

Kelli (02:25.588)
She's very funny with her reads. She's very, very funny.

Wendy (02:30.89)
Shemeah comes out in yet another great outfit. She said she literally packed three outfits in her bag and that's her third one and they still don't know where and they don't know where it is. It's not getting any better.

Kelli (02:38.398)
so she still doesn't have her bags.

So guess she doesn't have air tags on them.

Wendy (02:45.206)
I mean, I don't know how you travel without an air tag. I really don't. So they're splitting into two groups for the day. It's gonna be Portia, Phaedra, Cynthia and Shemeah and they're going to the waterfalls. And the other group is Kelly, Britt, Drew and Angela and they're going to cooking class. So.

When Portia, Phaedra, and Cynthia and Shamir are all talking on their way to the waterfalls, they're talking about the fact that they don't think that Britt donated enough to... I don't like it either. I don't like it either. I don't.

Kelli (03:21.587)
I don't like this.

Kelli (03:26.014)
I know she said she had a truck full of stuff. She's just trying to save face. Listen, the girl, if she's walking around with a Birkin, I don't know how she, I don't know how she, well, I guess you can get a Birkin for like 12 grand, right? 15 grand. They're not all like 90, like crystal McGofts.

Wendy (03:47.102)
I, I, I don't know to be quite honest with you and who knows if they're even real.

Kelli (03:53.357)
That's what I'm saying. And her role of voice is Elise. Like, listen, the girl, she doesn't have what you have. She did what she could. Move on.

Wendy (04:00.454)
Right. Right.

Right, I don't like that either. I don't like that they're shading her for that, I don't.

Kelli (04:08.146)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (04:10.062)
They ask Phaedra what she knows about Charles and she's like, she's known him for a long time and that he's always been a really good guy and he likes to have fun and party. They asked if he pretends to not be married, which I think is a weird question.

Kelli (04:27.518)
Well, especially because she used to see him about town 10 years ago and he and Angela have only been married for eight. So she didn't know him as a married man, that's because he wasn't married when she knew him. Right?

Wendy (04:34.154)
Right, like...

Wendy (04:39.08)
Right, exactly. Yeah, I was like, why are you guys painting it like this?

Kelli (04:44.604)
Yeah. I think that that's probably, I mean, listen, Charles, I meant to look it up. Charles reminds me of a guy from Jersey.

Wendy (04:45.965)
Right?

Wendy (04:54.99)
Would you want to look it up and see if he was from Jersey?

Kelli (04:57.128)
First of all, yeah, I wanna see where he's from. don't, like, my husband would never agree to being on a reality TV show, not that anybody would wanna watch my life anyway. But, and if I were, and I called him, I'd probably get the same reaction. Right, like, listen, I don't, you know, clearly they've gone through some shit, but nobody's gonna tell Charles Oakley how to act.

Wendy (05:15.68)
Yes, I know. I agree.

Kelli (05:26.714)
on TV, nobody's gonna tell him how to treat his wife, nobody's gonna tell him any of these things. If she's okay with her marriage, she's okay with her marriage. And I do think the producers are trying to spin it a little bit. Yeah.

Wendy (05:41.357)
100%. And actually, I think he came out with a statement too. He kind of said that, you know, he was giving her a hard time. Like he just was busting chops. And that's pretty much what Phaedra said. Like, first of all, she did say I didn't know him when he was married. And like, that's just who he is, you know?

Kelli (05:50.088)
Right.

Kelli (05:57.265)
Exactly. Exactly. I'm looking it up. Where's Charles Oakley?

Wendy (06:00.014)
Mm.

Wendy (06:03.918)
So when the ladies okay, I was

Kelli (06:04.837)
Cleveland, Ohio. Well, they must roll in Ohio like they roll in New Jersey, because I could say it.

Wendy (06:13.454)
That's so funny. When the ladies get to the waterfall, there's a man out there standing, they're holding a monkey.

Phaedra said she doesn't want to have anything to do with monkeys because they're racist. I was like...

It's just like

Kelli (06:35.108)
Well, you know, I mean, I was, you I mean, there could, there could, there can be racist remarks about that. So I know what she was trying to say. It, it didn't play out.

Wendy (06:45.326)
No, it really did not, it did not. Then we see Kelly, Britt, Drew and Angela, they're going to the cooking class and they're talking about like how it's good to get to know Phaedra. They asked Drew what's going on with Angela and Charles. Like why are they asking Drew what's going on with Angela and Charles?

Kelli (07:11.796)
And that was the producers. That was in her confessional. Yeah, cause she goes, I am not saying, you ain't asking me, why are you asking me about that? Good girl, Drew. You finally had your girls back because.

Wendy (07:14.23)
Was it? that wasn't her confessional.

that's right. That's right. Yeah. That's right. Right. That's what she says. She says, that's my girl. I'm not saying nothing bad about her. You're right. It was the, it was in the confessional. And it's like these, come on, stop. Just stop it. Yeah.

Kelli (07:29.498)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Let it go, yeah. But Angela's having a great first season.

Wendy (07:39.84)
I think so too, and I think people think so too. I think people like Angela. That's the vibe I'm getting. That's what I'm seeing on, yeah.

Kelli (07:44.092)
Yeah. Yeah. So just let her be. Like why? Because she's married to an NBA player, like an ex-NBA player. That's where you gotta go with it.

Wendy (07:56.846)
Yeah, not cool. Not cool. So then they get to the house where they're doing the cooking with Kelly. The house was built in 1932 and it is a 100 % black owned distillery. So they are a rum distillery, is that correct? And they're learning to cook the national dish of Grenada and it's called oil down.

Kelli (08:14.846)
Yeah.

Kelli (08:18.579)
Yes.

Wendy (08:27.758)
I don't even know what it was. I watched them cook it, but do you know what

Kelli (08:31.048)
It looked really good. was beef and pork, I believe, because Britt said she doesn't eat either, and she couldn't even eat the rest because the juices went on top. Yeah. And I think there was rice in there, and it actually looked like there were plantains in there, but I don't know if they mentioned that. That's what it looked like to me when they showed the dish, but it looked good. And so did those guys cooking it, by the way.

Wendy (08:36.758)
Right.

Wendy (08:40.246)
Of the juices, yes.

Wendy (08:55.759)
You know what I thought was so interesting is that how the whole thing was outside. Like they were doing like.

Kelli (09:01.052)
Yeah, yeah, when they walked up and the table was set up, I was like, they're cooking outside.

Wendy (09:07.532)
Yeah, I thought that that was interesting. Right?

Kelli (09:09.65)
Yeah. That house was so old, maybe there's like no A say in it or, you know, maybe it was easier to just do like a portable thing.

Wendy (09:16.78)
Yeah, maybe.

Wendy (09:21.098)
Yeah, that could be it. could be it. Or you know what? Maybe that's just how they do it in Grenada. know, certain countries like that's how they do it. just, you know, they build these kitchens outside so that one, the smell is out there and two, you know.

Kelli (09:34.579)
Yeah.

Wendy (09:38.083)
So then we see.

Britt's saying that she feels like the trip has been refreshing, that she's had a lot of conflict with Drew and Angela, but right now she's feeling like everything's okay. Okay, I'm glad to hear that, Britt. No, and that's what Britt, that's what she does. She just like puts out like little bits of information.

Kelli (09:54.088)
Yeah.

Nobody asked you, but we're glad to hear it, Brett.

Kelli (10:06.644)
That's so funny.

Wendy (10:10.286)
Fager's then talking to them about how it was weird that Brit bought up Apollo. Yes, we certainly did. It made no sense.

Kelli (10:20.026)
Mm-hmm. We thought so too. He wasn't even there. He wasn't there and she wasn't invited. How would she even know that he was invited? Who cares?

Wendy (10:31.424)
Right, and that's what we said, like we didn't see him there, so why are you, like was he even there? Like, it made no sense. Okay, exactly, it's so true. It's so true. Then Phage is asking who is Black, which she's pointing to her napkin. And Porch said that, you know, she said it's her friend, and the other ladies are also asking Drew.

Kelli (10:36.808)
Right. If a tree falls in the woods, does it make a noise? Like, nobody cares.

Kelli (10:52.307)
Yeah.

Wendy (10:59.64)
who Black is, and she's maintaining that they are just friends. And again, Kelly's questioning it. We've already been through this. The woman's going through a divorce. She's not gonna say it. Just let it go. By the way, Simon Gwadia was deported today. Yep, he has left the country. He is out, he's back.

Kelli (11:10.398)
She's not gonna say it.

Kelli (11:14.996)
Just let it go.

Kelli (11:22.536)
I saw that.

Wendy (11:27.682)
to Nigeria. They sent him back to Nigeria.

Kelli (11:30.206)
Does he have, he does have a lot of kids, right? He's got like six kids, yeah.

Wendy (11:32.75)
And he does have, yeah, I don't know where they're all from. mean, some may be in Nigeria for all we know.

Kelli (11:37.928)
Yeah, maybe some of them are there, yeah.

Wendy (11:41.142)
So, Portia's going through a divorce as well, so she should be understanding this, of all people. And you know what? Phaedra's an attorney, so, you know, like, stop asking these questions.

Kelli (11:55.381)
She's very clearly not going to admit it. She's not going to say it, so just let it go.

Wendy (12:01.816)
Yeah.

Kelli (12:04.498)
I like when Shemeah is like, I got my best friend back about her and Portia. But do we know, like, are they okay now? I don't think so, right?

Wendy (12:08.406)
I like, I know, I love that too. I just, wonder, I don't think they are. And that's what I, like what happened? I mean, we're already on episode 14. Like how did this go wrong?

Kelli (12:23.87)
I don't know, I don't know. Did they film the reunion yet? they just did because the picture just came out of the seating chart, right? Shemeah got first seat. On one side, does Portia have first seat on the other side? So something's gotta happen between them.

Wendy (12:27.296)
Yes, they just did.

Wendy (12:31.958)
Yes, they just did. Yes.

Wendy (12:39.938)
I think so. I think so.

Yeah.

Kelli (12:45.936)
Ugh.

Wendy (12:46.84)
So the ladies head back and they gotta get ready for their dinner tonight because they're meeting with the prime minister.

Kelli (12:55.078)
Is he a religious man because the outfits?

Wendy (12:58.922)
What was he? they're, gosh.

Kelli (13:02.388)
All of their outfits, they were just showing so much skin. They all looked amazing and they all have amazing bodies. But I just thought like, you're going to meet the prime minister. I don't know, maybe cover up some skin.

Wendy (13:10.338)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (13:15.982)
I know. Well.

Wendy (13:20.0)
Listen, I think that that's just how they dress. It's just, they do look amazing. They do.

Kelli (13:23.858)
Yeah, it is. And they look amazing. They do.

I mean, that scene under the waterfall where they're all in their bathing suits, it was like a video. They were in a music video.

Wendy (13:30.53)
I think

Wendy (13:38.22)
I mean, the poses and yeah. And Portia Mia, she's like, I only had a two piece and I'm like, girl, you look fabulous. Are you kidding me?

Kelli (13:40.71)
Yep. God bless them.

Kelli (13:48.34)
Please, exactly, rock the two piece, Shemeah. It's much easier to go to the bathroom.

Wendy (13:53.686)
That's right. And she came out in this beautiful yellow gown that we found that she borrowed from Portia, because her luggage still is not there. But they do. I mean, they do dress like that. That's just how they dress. It is what it is. Then Angela's on the phone with Charles, and she finally gets in touch with him. And she says, you know, don't you miss me? Like, it's the first anniversary that we're not together, like, you know, leading him.

Kelli (13:59.827)
Yeah. Crazy.

Wendy (14:23.087)
And you know, he's not biting. Charles is not. Okay, that's it. said, okay.

Kelli (14:26.772)
All he can say is, okay, okay.

Wendy (14:34.294)
Listen, I...

Kelli (14:34.526)
What did I listen to Dolores and Tamara talk about it? And what did Dolores say? She's trying to put a

Wendy (14:37.954)
Mm-hmm.

Ahem.

Kelli (14:43.614)
She's trying to put a triangle into a square box. It was the funniest analogy.

Wendy (14:51.158)
Yeah. Listen, I think that that's relationship. That's their banter. I think they're completely fine. I don't think anyone needs to worry about that.

Kelli (15:00.456)
Yes. Totally agree.

Wendy (15:08.522)
Why do I have Synth? okay. then Cynthia is... Okay. So this is before they even get to the... So Cynthia's...

Kelli (15:18.43)
Where was Cynthia when they went, who did Cynthia go with, Portia?

Wendy (15:22.382)
Cynthia went with Portia. Yeah, Cynthia went with Portia. So they're back, they're still at the house and you they're waiting for everyone to get ready before they go meet with the prime minister and Cynthia pours a shot of tequila and Shemeah, you know, Shemeah pours it for her and she's making all these comments about Brit and saying that, you know, we're not hood rats, we're very classy women. Brit's saying this, you know, classy women don't have shots, like all indignant because they're having shots because she doesn't want to have one because

Kelli (15:25.018)
yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay.

Wendy (15:51.254)
She threw up the night before. So just don't have one. You don't have to disparage them.

Kelli (15:58.739)
Right, yeah, I don't think she needs to say that classy ladies don't do shots because that is not true.

Wendy (16:04.096)
Right. No, that's not true. Why are they hood rats just because they're doing shots? Like, stop. Yeah.

Kelli (16:09.052)
Right. Yeah. Right.

Wendy (16:17.548)
They're bringing up the stupid money again, but the Rolls Royce and the Birkin. I'm tired of hearing this.

Kelli (16:24.052)
Yeah, like Shemeah is very passive aggressive with this. She's being very passive aggressive. And I don't like that. You have a peach now.

Wendy (16:29.656)
She really is.

Wendy (16:35.916)
Right. And you're very well off. You're very well off. And honestly, I mean, as we see on the ride home, she's got a lot of shit going on at home. Like, why are you even bothering with this nonsense? Seriously.

Kelli (16:36.85)
You don't do that. Not a good look. Exactly. Exactly.

Kelli (16:50.11)
Yeah, like why are you bringing it up again?

Wendy (16:53.591)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:54.792)
Well, she said that she had a conversation with Britt prior. She took her out and they had a conversation prior. Why didn't you tell her then you should give a thousand, can you give a thousand dollars? Because that's what everybody's doing. Can you do that? And if Britt, you know, it's off camera if she said, no, I can't do that. Okay, well, what can you do? But instead she didn't, you know, she worked around it and now she's.

Wendy (17:18.008)
Right.

Kelli (17:24.262)
embarrassing her on the show.

Wendy (17:26.188)
Yeah, I didn't I did not like it. I didn't like it.

Kelli (17:28.914)
Mm-mm.

Wendy (17:35.77)
And then they're also, so then they're trying to blame Kelly, like Kelly should have told her, because Kelly was her friend. Well, that's not Kelly's business to tell her, I don't think. I mean, unless Britt's asking the question, but I think I would ask the question. Like what's everyone given? And if they say a thousand bucks is, you then I would say, you know, maybe I can't do a thousand. I can only do 500.

Kelli (17:47.368)
Right.

Kelli (17:52.436)
I would ask the question.

Kelli (18:02.12)
Right. Right.

Wendy (18:05.654)
You know?

Kelli (18:06.835)
Yeah, exactly.

Kelli (18:11.602)
And this thing between Portia and Britt is so stupid about the text message, the group text. Is that, I mean, you didn't say who you were.

Wendy (18:18.87)
Yeah, that she didn't... Yeah.

Wendy (18:24.994)
Right. I mean, it's when she first met her, you get a group text with all these people and she doesn't know who you are and she didn't save your number. And then you're asking her a question and she's like, well, who is this? You never told her who you were when she asked. So how is she supposed to know? I mean, is she a mind reader? No, she's not.

Kelli (18:35.826)
Right. You never answered. Right.

Hmm?

Kelli (18:47.38)
No, that was dumb. But now they got to get it together because now the Prime Minister is there.

Wendy (18:54.092)
Yeah, yeah, that's right. And before that happens, Britt says, you know, got to let me finish, baby. And Portia's like, no, not, not baby. And that's when Sheme like, we got to put a button in this because, and thank God he did walk up because that was, it wasn't going to go well, right? So they start asking him questions when, he sits down and they, you know, they find out he has two children and their ages. They didn't ask him if he had a wife.

Kelli (19:05.982)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:10.836)
Woof. No.

Wendy (19:23.448)
They never asked him that. They just assumed.

Kelli (19:25.074)
No, that's what I have here. Like, is he really single? He's very good looking. He looks young, but he said the age is of his kid, so he's in their age range. But yeah, I don't know.

Wendy (19:29.272)
They just assumed.

Wendy (19:36.131)
Right.

Yeah, they decide who they think is going to be the best first lady.

Kelli (19:41.747)
Yeah.

Wendy (19:46.414)
Phaedra, yes, because she likes people from another country. Yes, Angela, yes, she would make a good First Lady. Phaedra said, Drusilla cannot be the First Lady showing up in her team.

Kelli (19:46.886)
Or she gets most of the votes.

Kelli (19:53.492)
But Angela said Kelly.

Kelli (20:13.067)
yeah, she did say that. She did say something about Timo.

Wendy (20:14.414)
I was like, I mean, I honestly hate to tell you, I think they all look like they were wearing Timo. Just going to put that out there. So the prime minister excuses himself and you know, that's when all the ladies are like, they can't believe, you know, that he's got two kids and that, you know, he's, he's not married and they're like, well,

Kelli (20:21.332)
Mmm.

Kelli (20:25.3)
I think they were too. I do.

Wendy (20:41.804)
What makes you like, how do know he's not married? And Angela's like, you know, Charles doesn't wear a ring. And listen, I get what she was saying. What did she say? yeah. That's right. I guess.

Kelli (20:51.55)
Phaedra's response to that is so funny though. Does this woman have Tourette's? Why is she just yelling things out about her marriage? Not that I think anybody should be making fun of somebody with Tourette's, but Phaedra, I mean, Portia's response was, yeah.

Wendy (21:02.958)
And yeah, because then she says, like, expressed to him in therapy that it, like, that matters to her and it bothers her that he doesn't. Well, you think that then he would wear it, but he doesn't. now you're putting it all out there.

Kelli (21:10.172)
Why is she yelling things out about her marriage?

Ha!

Kelli (21:29.542)
Yeah, I mean, listen, if it does, so I don't know, I was watching the after show and I was thinking this as I was watching the show, but I think it was on the after show, Phaedra's, somebody said it, it doesn't, if a guy's gonna cheat, a guy's gonna cheat, doesn't matter if he has a ring on his finger or not. And unfortunately, from what I understand, a lot of women like a married man, like side pieces like the married man, so.

Wendy (21:48.312)
So true.

Kelli (21:56.563)
You know, that could be detrimental that he wears a ring. Listen, if it bothers her, he should wear the fucking ring. My husband lost his wedding band twice, got it back the first time. And this was his father's wedding band. This was the actual ring that his father wore. He lost it on a golf course once they found it. Three months later, he got it back. He lost it again. But I did just buy him a new one for Christmas. He doesn't like, doesn't wear it every day and that's fine. But like we went to the wedding Saturday night. He wore his wedding.

Wendy (22:02.356)
Right. Right. If it does.

Kelli (22:27.166)
But now he's like scared to wear it cause he's lost it twice. You he lost a lot of weight and it like slipped off his finger. I'm okay with it. But if it bothers her, then he should put the damn ring on.

Wendy (22:39.37)
Yeah, exactly. I totally agree with you. totally agree with you. Bill wears his wedding ring all the time. I, on the other hand, don't wear mine because it's too big and I just haven't gotten its size. And I don't want to lose it. I don't want to lose it. And honestly, the way I work in my job, I just wouldn't want to wear it anyway. It's not like I'm at a desk or an office. I want to burn the clothing that I'm wearing some days when I come home from work. You know what I'm saying?

Kelli (22:52.2)
Yeah, I

Kelli (22:58.867)
Right.

Kelli (23:05.8)
Yeah, yeah. Yes.

Wendy (23:09.358)
I just don't want to wear it.

Kelli (23:11.988)
I wear mine when I go to work and when I go out, but when I'm working remote from home or going to the gym, I don't wear it all the time. I don't wear it to the salon.

Wendy (23:20.554)
Mm-hmm. Right. Right.

Wendy (23:26.734)
So then they bring out the cake for Angela's birthday, for her anniversary. I thought that was so nice. She starts crying because, you know, she appreciates it. She saw that the girl saw that she was a little bit sad about her anniversary and not being with Charles. And they, you know, got a cake for her. I thought that was nice.

Kelli (23:36.114)
That was nice.

Kelli (23:49.577)
I think it was very nice. I liked when Phaedra said, most men are crazy and most women like penis. It's a give and take. When Angela was talking about Charles not, like basically she was like, if it doesn't bother her, you know, whatever. But yeah, most men are crazy and most women like penis. It's a give and take.

Wendy (23:56.588)
Right.

Wendy (24:04.526)
Right, exactly.

Wendy (24:09.344)
You

Kelli (24:11.93)
Words of Wisdom by Phaedra Parks.

Wendy (24:14.112)
Yeah, and Phaedra also says that she feels like Britt is self-sabotaging, you know, that she needs to open herself up and join the group, like, and just be herself. Stop trying to... I don't know what it is she's trying to do, to be honest with you. I feel like she's trying too much.

Kelli (24:32.744)
When she said you're putting yourself in a hot seat, I'm like, damn, thank God. she, Britt needed to hear that. What she does with it, I don't know, but she needed to hear that, because that's exactly what she's doing.

Wendy (24:45.526)
Yeah, it is.

Kelli (24:47.228)
Even back to when the show, when the season first started and we said it, like her reaction to Kenya asking where her other ring was, was so overboard. Because she was just wearing a ring that looked like an engagement ring and typically you have a wedding band on the same finger with the engagement ring. She didn't. So her reaction to that question was over the top.

Wendy (25:08.024)
Right.

Wendy (25:13.972)
It definitely was. It definitely was. Yeah, she is, but you know, like most women, she doesn't listen. So then they're on their way back and Shemeah gets the call from Gerard and he lets her know that Shiloh is sick and that you have to call the agency and try and find somebody else because that

Kelli (25:15.475)
Yeah.

So Phaedra's given her good advice.

Kelli (25:24.488)
Right.

Wendy (25:41.4)
keep that lady around anymore. She just throwing the baby. At first I was like, what? Yeah, but then, you know, he kind of explains it a little bit more. was the, the person from the agency was putting the baby in the crib without a blanket or anything. And the baby is very cold and the, their immune Shiloh's immune system is compromised and like she needs to be swaddled and you know, taking care of in a better way. It was not like the

Kelli (25:45.416)
What? Yeah.

Wendy (26:10.946)
the woman was abusing the child, right?

Kelli (26:14.632)
Right, exactly, right. And I'm wondering like if this nanny was from a different country, if the cold room was like to do something to help some kind of other symptom that Shiloh had, listen, either way they need to get somebody else in there because the woman wasn't caring for her the way she needed to be cared for. But I am wondering if that's what was going on. You know what I mean?

Wendy (26:35.627)
in

Wendy (26:38.892)
Yeah, yeah, like, and we don't know, but just to even get that call and everyone, you you could see, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, he says, if she doesn't feel better tomorrow, he's going to take her to the doctors. And then we find out from, you know, Shemeah that she didn't even have a first birthday party for her because, you know, she had been so sick and they didn't want her around all these people. And, you know, she's not had it easy, this baby. This baby has not had it easy.

Kelli (26:41.597)
Right.

heartbreaking.

Kelli (27:04.114)
No, no, she's got a lot of issues.

Wendy (27:07.188)
And now she's feeling guilty because that's what moms do. You know, she's not there. Her daughter's sick. She's here, you know, in Grenada with these women. She says she's living her best life. I mean, she's having a good time and she's, you know, it's okay. Right.

Kelli (27:18.888)
Yeah, and she does have a good husband who's very supportive, who is holding it down at home.

Wendy (27:25.204)
Absolutely. So once they get back to the place, they all go back into Shemeah's room and she's crying, obviously, and the ladies are, they're all there crying, actually. They're all holding hands and they're praying for Shemeah and Shiloh. And then again, Britt, it's just like she hugs her and says, got your back no matter what. She's crying saying, I've always been there.

you know, for you, like, this is what real sisterhood is. And I'm just like, where is this coming from? Like, seriously, like, where is this coming from? It really was. And even so much as to get the shot, we're gonna get a shot, we're gonna get a double. I mean, you were just yelling at her about the shot. And then you're gonna go take off, put your titties on the counter? Like, what?

Kelli (27:59.359)
What are you doing? Right.

It was a lot. It was a lot to take in.

Kelli (28:14.056)
Right.

Kelli (28:21.47)
Just boobies out.

Wendy (28:24.079)
It made no sense. It seriously made no sense.

Kelli (28:25.524)
flopping them on the counter and even Shemei was like, what? What are we doing? Like what?

Wendy (28:29.71)
Like, what? how did we get here? Like, how do we get here?

Kelli (28:33.94)
And you're the only one doing it. It's not like you got everybody behind you like, yeah, like whipping them out. Nobody else was doing that.

Wendy (28:43.404)
Right. And she was just calling them hood rats.

Kelli (28:45.982)
Yeah.

For taking a shot and now she's doing a double. So what does that make her? That was wild.

Wendy (28:54.798)
Yeah, and then she's going to get them. It was just, it was crazy. I didn't get it. I seriously did not get it.

You know, we know that she didn't go to the reunion. We know that she is suing Bravo. We know that she's saying that the pictures that were on the posters are not pictures of her.

Kelli (29:20.85)
Right, so what's the basis of her lawsuit? You said the picture's not you.

Wendy (29:24.087)
I mean

It like, just doesn't.

Kelli (29:28.34)
So what's the basis of your lawsuit? Where's the defamation? It wasn't you, right? It wasn't you. So you got nothing to worry about.

Wendy (29:34.858)
I feel like Britt has the same legal advice that Karen Huger had. Like, who is advising these women? Like, this makes no sense. Yeah, it makes no sense. Like, what?

Kelli (29:42.792)
Yeah. I'm Liam McSweeney.

Kelli (29:50.609)
I don't get this lawsuit at all. Hostile work environment. They kicked Kenya off the show. They immediately removed her from the show. What was hostile? And if it was so hostile, why didn't you leave? You stayed.

Wendy (30:01.806)
Yeah.

Wendy (30:05.356)
Right, and...

It wasn't, the pictures weren't of you?

I mean this is now over a year after the pictures came out and we're just hearing that the pictures weren't of her? Who were they of? Or was there no faces on them?

Kelli (30:26.366)
think there would have to be a face if it was her giving someone a blowjob. How do you show that picture without her face being in it?

Wendy (30:31.726)
Well, I mean, it could have been like from like the side view or from the back. It could have been the back of a head. Right? mean, I don't know. Like how is the book? I think we need to see the picture at this point. All right, maybe we need to look up the pictures. That's what we need to do.

Kelli (30:37.176)
Yeah, I mean her something, you know, it could have been from the back. Yeah. Really, it really depends on who took the picture. Where they were standing, we're gonna need more details. Was it the guy? yeah, like it could have been the top of her head.

Maybe. We need to, we're gonna need to see these pictures to really give an honest evaluation.

Wendy (31:01.55)
This is hysterical. just I don't get it. I seriously don't get it.

Kelli (31:13.778)
I mean, way to seal your fate, man. Way to seal your fate. I mean, I don't think she was being asked back anyway. She probably knew that too. That's why she's trying with this lawsuit. But what's with all the lawsuits?

Wendy (31:26.858)
I don't

Kelli (31:28.446)
The hostile work environment though is ridiculous because they got rid of Kenya as soon as it happened and you stayed, she stayed. So if it was hostile, wouldn't you have left?

Wendy (31:34.338)
Yes, they did.

Wendy (31:42.72)
And I think back when this had happened before, like right when the season had started, didn't I say, cause I thought I heard someplace that the reason they got rid of Kenya right away is because she did lawyer up Britt. Didn't I say that? Wasn't that out there? So if she lawyered up in the very beginning, a year ago, why is this just coming out now?

Kelli (31:59.155)
I think so, yeah.

Kelli (32:11.016)
Well, I mean, I don't know what the statute of limitations is on harassment or defamation, but typically it's a two year statute of limitations. So you have two years from the time of the incident to file a complaint, but I don't know if she filed anything yet, did she? Or is she going to? Like we're just hearing about it, but we don't know if it's actually happened yet.

Wendy (32:17.566)
Wendy (32:30.286)
Well, that's a good question. Maybe it's not.

Wendy (32:35.114)
Right, right. haven't seen any comp- we haven't seen it and we haven't heard for a fact whether or not the actual complaint has been filed. That's true.

Kelli (32:42.676)
And I don't know if suing a workplace, like a work environment, that might be a shorter statute of limitations. Maybe you only have a year to do that. Because I know if it's, at least in New Jersey, like if you're suing like a municipality or a county or something, I think it's 90 days you have. It's very short. Yeah.

Wendy (33:04.11)
It is 90 days. It is 90 days. So, but

Kelli (33:08.724)
So maybe a workplace is, I don't know.

Wendy (33:12.31)
Yeah, that's interesting.

Well, I guess we probably have one more episode and then the reunion or we don't even know. It can't be. It's got to be at least two more episodes, right?

Kelli (33:24.404)
I think we have three more episodes for some reason. I don't know why I think that.

Wendy (33:30.241)
Okay.

Kelli (33:31.152)
I think because they said we were gonna get five episodes with Phaedra. so maybe we've had three already. Well, she came in very late in the first episode that she appeared in. And she's been in both of the Grenada episodes.

Wendy (33:42.464)
Yes, yes, she did.

Wendy (33:47.372)
Right, she came in before Grenada.

Kelli (33:50.27)
So I think we're gonna get three more episodes, but I could be wrong. Two or three?

Wendy (33:53.206)
Or maybe two. Yeah. Because I feel like we've got another day in Grenada for sure. And then we've got to have some sort of finale. can't be in Grenada. There's got to be something else.

Kelli (33:59.347)
Yeah.

Kelli (34:04.498)
Yeah, and I mean, I'm assuming something's gonna go down between Portia and Shemeah.

Wendy (34:09.07)
It's got, mean, yeah.

Kelli (34:11.252)
Yeah.

Wendy (34:12.856)
wait and see.

Kelli (34:14.387)
Yeah.

Wendy (34:15.726)
All right, I don't have anything else. guess next we'll talk about our next episode will be Summerhouse and... no, we're done with Summerhouse. I guess just the valley. Yeah, just the valley, okay.

Kelli (34:23.24)
No more summer house. The valley. Yeah. And when Miami starts, is that starting like, like very soon?

Wendy (34:31.692)
I think I saw July, I think something at July 11th, I think.

Kelli (34:34.355)
Okay.

Kelli (34:39.014)
so this will be wrapping up by then. So this will probably be, well, it'll probably be a couple weeks, maybe we have the reunion in Miami.

Wendy (34:46.892)
I have, have you seen any of the Miami like trailers or anything for Miami?

Kelli (34:52.444)
No, and I also didn't see the trailer for OC, but that's coming out soon. And Tamara was talking about it. I mean, I know they always do this, but she was like, they did a great job on the trailer for OC.

Wendy (35:05.838)
Okay. All right. I didn't see the OC trailer yet either. didn't see the, I don't think I saw that. I didn't see the trailer, but I did see Julia was talking. Did you see that about? She was talking to Martina about how she told them like on zoom or something and Ariana, Adriana, Audreana. I don't know. can't see her name all of a sudden. Wasn't there. And I

Kelli (35:08.69)
Yeah, did you see Miami's?

Kelli (35:18.354)
I did see that.

Kelli (35:34.983)
and Gertie left.

Wendy (35:36.204)
and Gertie left and they've had a big falling out, both of them, which I'm very curious to see what that's all about.

Kelli (35:45.33)
Me too, I'm kind of surprised at Gertie, but not Adriana. She's, you know, she sways in the wind whichever way she wants to move.

Wendy (35:48.78)
Yeah. No, no, I'm not about.

Wendy (35:55.382)
Yes, and the other big news that came out this week is Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Rachel Zoe. She is filming, because they're filming now. So that's interesting.

Kelli (36:01.021)
yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (36:09.458)
I wonder how, who, like, you know, they always say, like, she's a friend of so-and-so's. I wonder whose friend she's coming in as. But, I mean, she's been on that scene for a long time. She was in an episode of Entourage. She was in the last episode of Entourage where Vince goes and gets the ring. I think she sees him in the jewelry store.

Wendy (36:26.222)
okay.

Kelli (36:27.912)
Yeah. So she's been on that scene. She's been in that scene for a long time. Well, she styled most of them, so.

Wendy (36:32.224)
Yeah. Yeah, I think it'll listen. I'm here for it. I'm here. I'm here for it.

Kelli (36:38.002)
Me too, I was texting you and cousin Gina, I would rather have seen Tracy Tudor or bring Tracy Tudor on also. Because you and I had talked about it one time and I was like, why would she want that she has her own show? And then of course we found out that show was no longer. So yeah, she would want it.

Wendy (36:46.902)
It's so funny.

Wendy (36:56.526)
And it's funny, I originally thought I would like Tracy Tudor on, but then the more I thought about it, I'm like, like I've seen her already. Like, what are we gonna see with her on Housewives? Like, and she's already, it would be like, to me, it would be like if they put, I don't know, somebody who we've already seen so much of their life on. You know what I mean?

Kelli (37:15.432)
think she would be a better fit in OC, quite honestly.

Wendy (37:20.385)
Maybe.

Kelli (37:21.64)
I mean, I know she sells million dollar homes, like obviously. I know she has a lot of money. I don't know. For some reason I feel like she'd be a better fit in O.C. but she's got way more money than any of those people other than Heather DeBrow.

Wendy (37:26.465)
Right.

Wendy (37:38.894)
And Katie Gianella, she didn't finish the season, correct? Like we know that for a fact, right?

Kelli (37:46.74)
Correct. I believe she had to a trip or left a trip or something happens on a trip.

Wendy (37:53.088)
And we don't know if she left on her own volition or if she was asked to leave.

Interesting.

Kelli (38:03.292)
Yep. I think that this season of OCE is going to be real good. I'm happy Gretchen is back and I hope she puts Tamara right in her place. And I think she does.

Wendy (38:15.148)
Well, yeah, mean, yeah, I think she does too. I'm looking forward to seeing that too. I'm looking forward to seeing that too. Have to wait and see.

Kelli (38:25.554)
Yeah, and Lexi's, so when I was listening to Tamara and Dolores tonight, they were reading Lexi's post about leaving Summerhouse. I don't think she's alluding to the fact that she quit, because they were like, she got fired. She probably did. They probably didn't ask her to come back. But I don't think what she wrote was trying to lead people to believe that she quit on her own. It was just like,

you know, not the summer I signed up for and like her kind of explaining it.

Wendy (38:59.982)
I read it as though she was moving on and not coming back. I don't think she said either way. Like I didn't...

Kelli (39:08.276)
Yeah, like I don't think she wants people to think she could, like Brynn on Real Housewives of New York obviously was not asked back and is totally making it as if she left on her own. I didn't get that vibe from Lexi's post.

Wendy (39:21.166)
No, I didn't get that vibe either. I didn't get that vibe either. mean, and if you, you you watch what's going on on social media, you know, there's real Housewives of New York cast members that are hanging out together all the time. Like in real life right now when they're not filming and they don't have a film date, start date. you know, we know that Brynn was not a part of that anymore, right? And we know that Uba's not coming back because Uba made that announcement.

Kelli (39:33.683)
Yeah.

Right.

Kelli (39:50.834)
Yeah, I kind of wish Uber was coming back, but...

Wendy (39:54.764)
Listen, I think this is better for her. She doesn't need this. She does not, yeah, she does not need this, right? And then there was another, what was the other Bravo News? Well, there was the fake AI that Carl wasn't coming back, but he made the statement that that wasn't true.

Kelli (39:57.311)
for sure. I hope she's pregnant and happy in Connecticut. She definitely doesn't need it, no.

Kelli (40:15.667)
Yeah.

Wendy (40:19.416)
feel like there was...

Kelli (40:19.454)
So they must be filming that soon, Summerhouse. July 4th, right? They start.

Wendy (40:22.6)
I, yeah, I think that they are filming it soon because I did see that Carl's, I think hopefully it was real, that Soft Bar is actually opening July of this year.

Kelli (40:36.692)
so hopefully that'll be on the show.

Wendy (40:38.986)
Yes, hopefully it will be.

Kelli (40:42.334)
We should try to go.

Wendy (40:44.526)
I'm not a big fan of Brooklyn, but yeah, we can try to go. Just because it's not easy to get to. I mean, it's just not easy to get to from here. Brooklyn is like one of those places. It's just like Long Island. It's not easy to get here from. No, the Yankees play in the Bronx. No, Yankees play in the Bronx. The Mets play in Brooklyn. You've been to the Bronx. Wait.

Kelli (40:49.428)
I don't know if I've ever been to Brooklyn.

Kelli (40:56.397)
that's where the Yankees play, right? Is that where Yankee Stadium is?

Kelli (41:05.337)
okay, that's where I've been.

I don't think the Mets play in Brooklyn. Where does the Mets? Where's City Field? Is that where they play?

Wendy (41:15.768)
Brooklyn.

Kelli (41:18.676)
You sure? Because I thought that was a pain in the a- Flushing New York.

Wendy (41:24.392)
that's Queens, right? So Queens, so, okay. So is Brooklyn. So is Brooklyn. See the only way to get to Brooklyn from New Jersey is either go through Manhattan to get to Brooklyn or go through Staten Island to get to Brooklyn. It's kind of just like Queens, it's the same way. The Queens is the same way. Right? The only way to get to Queens is to go through Manhattan to get to Queens.

Kelli (41:26.812)
Yeah, yeah, Queens, yeah. That's a pain in the ass to get to. Yeah, see, I don't know, okay.

Kelli (41:42.838)
that's right. Okay.

Wendy (41:51.276)
The Yankees playing the Bronx, which is part of Manhattan.

Kelli (41:55.314)
Right, right, right, right, right.

Wendy (41:57.528)
but there's just not easy ways to get.

Kelli (42:01.524)
Well, we can have Frank Bessie take us and we can go through Staten Island.

Wendy (42:04.686)
Okay, I'm in I hope

Kelli (42:09.14)
and we'll make them take us to Pizza Giovista.

Wendy (42:11.854)
I'm in. Let's do it. Let us know when it's good for you. All right. guess until next time, thank you for watching. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (42:13.908)
Perfect. Frank, we planned your day. Again. Exactly. All right.

Kelli (42:31.081)
Bye.