Love Hotel-Mixed Signals and Second Chances

Wendy (00:00.824)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.948)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:05.261)
and I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:07.36)
We are talking about Love Hotel Season 1 Episode Number 5. Guess who's back? That's a good name.

Kelli (00:16.406)
Good name.

Lori (00:16.942)
Yeah, that's good. I got to tell you, every time we start talking about this, just keep, for some reason, the theme from Love Boat keeps going in my head. The Love Boat. I don't know why. I don't know why, but it just, every time it passes.

Kelli (00:32.61)
I'll tell you what, that should be the next show they do. Because remember, Love Boat was like all guest stars of like people who were on TV at the time, network stars. Maybe they should do like a reality cruise show and just have Bravo Liberties popping up, interacting with each other. I think we just, yeah.

Lori (00:35.866)
Wouldn't that be fun?

Wendy (00:35.885)
Yes.

Lori (00:40.506)
Uh huh. Yes. Yeah.

Lori (00:51.33)
A Love Boat Remake. Love Boat Remake.

Wendy (00:51.424)
Yeah, why not? Yeah, or-

Wendy (00:59.116)
I mean, would love to be Julie. I'd love to be the cruise director.

Lori (00:59.247)
well.

Lori (01:02.784)
my yes.

Kelli (01:02.923)
Yeah.

Lori (01:05.465)
I was always jealous of her job. I always thought to myself, that's such a cool ass job.

Wendy (01:10.89)
Yes!

Kelli (01:11.522)
right now and she was super cute.

Lori (01:13.69)
to you, Oskie.

Wendy (01:14.125)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:15.436)
Julie was cute.

Wendy (01:16.984)
So we start out where we left off with Shannon in the room with Earl and she gave him the envelope. Boy, that was a twist, huh?

Kelli (01:24.866)
took a hard left turn that scene did not, not only did Earl not see it coming, we did not see that coming.

Wendy (01:31.722)
Nope, we thought that Earl was getting the boo. That's what we thought.

Lori (01:32.27)
Well, you know what?

Kelli (01:34.966)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (01:35.982)
You know what that was? That was a piece of production. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Not too shabby.

Wendy (01:40.474)
absolutely, that was a good edit.

Kelli (01:41.571)
Sure, but it was a masterpiece of production.

Wendy (01:45.354)
Yeah. So Earl op- No. I like it when it does though. So he opens up the envelope and starts crying and said that he didn't expect that. And we still don't know, but we find out that Shannon found his stepson, which I love that. I so love that.

Kelli (01:47.308)
Production doesn't fool us many times, but it fooled us this time. Me too.

Lori (01:51.0)
There you go. Yes.

Kelli (02:07.298)
That was very cool of Shannon.

Wendy (02:08.918)
Yes, it definitely was. And that she let everyone downstairs know, so everyone in production knew and all the other castmates knew. So that they go downstairs and they're all kind of celebrating Earl. They're all happy for him. Yeah, yeah. Then we see production ask Adam if he is concerned with Earl as being competition. And Adam said, no, he's not.

Kelli (02:23.574)
I teared up. I definitely teared up.

Lori (02:26.714)
Well, most definitely.

Kelli (02:28.588)
Yeah.

Wendy (02:37.868)
Shannon says that she's unsure about Adam, but I'm sorry, Adam, but I do think that Earl is still competition.

Kelli (02:45.856)
I think he should thank Earl's competition because Earl's definitely his competition.

Wendy (02:50.388)
Yes. Yes.

Lori (02:51.054)
Well, listen, this is the bottom line. You're on a dating show. There's no time to twiddle your thumbs, hold hands and sing zippity doo da while you're walking down the lane. No. Plant one honor, make it happen. What are you doing? What are you doing?

Kelli (02:59.905)
Right.

Wendy (03:07.393)
Right.

Kelli (03:07.66)
Right!

Wendy (03:10.071)
Right.

Kelli (03:10.474)
Right, because everyone there is competition. Look what just happened with Ashley and Ralph. Like, nobody saw that, like Wale, didn't see that coming either. So you should consider everybody there your competition and do not waste a moment.

Wendy (03:20.59)
No.

Wendy (03:25.632)
Exactly.

Lori (03:25.644)
No, you need to bust a move when it's time to bust a move.

Wendy (03:30.422)
Yes. Then we see Joel comes out and tells them that they are going to relax today and that in the evening there would be another elimination. So I don't know how much relaxing is going on when they know an elimination is around the corner, right? Adam goes up to Luanne and ask if she's seen Shannon and Luanne said, I think she caught up with Earl. So, know, Adam, you've now been

Kelli (03:47.028)
Right.

Wendy (04:00.12)
put on notice, he's like, I just think they're just friends. said, darling, I think you need to be a little more aggressive, which that's what he needed to hear. And Luanne was just the person to deliver it to him, right?

Kelli (04:08.257)
Yep.

For sure, for sure.

Wendy (04:12.814)
Like this is your last shot, buddy.

Lori (04:13.006)
But he didn't seem to move on it. mean, he had a conversation with Luann and Giselle. So two people told you and still you're twiddling your thumbs. I don't know what you're doing.

Wendy (04:17.229)
now.

Wendy (04:21.239)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (04:25.987)
Yeah.

Kelli (04:26.102)
Yep, you're absolutely right.

Wendy (04:30.734)
Then we see Ashley's at the bar with Wale and Jason, and then he steps away and says that he'll be over here. Ashley asks Wale what his timeline is for wanting his family, which I think is an important question. And his answer was a little confusing, but I mean, guess it makes sense. He said, well, it could be four years. It could be a year. It really depends. And I understand that. mean, given his age,

and his dating situation and the fact that she has two children and if she's, know, wants more children, then obviously the timeline would be sped up. You know, you're not gonna wait, you're not gonna wait around, right?

Then they start kissing.

Lori (05:20.59)
think the deal is with her is I think that she really doesn't want anymore kids. I think that she went into the show being like truly on the fence about it. And then I think when she was presented with the idea of it, she was been thinking about it she's like, I don't think so. And I think that's a big part of her while a problem is because she's...

Wendy (05:26.508)
I don't think she knows.

Lori (05:49.462)
I don't think that she's into it.

Kelli (05:54.08)
I think that sometimes when people have children and then their marriage doesn't work out or their relationship with the father or mother doesn't work out, it's hard for them to picture themselves having kids with someone else. Like, I don't think it's something that either one of them should have to decide today. Like, I get it, they're on a show and, you know, all that stuff, but it's like, she's obviously young enough to have more children. She might not be able to visualize it, but if...

Lori (06:06.16)
yeah.

Kelli (06:22.078)
If she really finds someone and falls in love with someone, she might change her mind or wanna expand her family. I just think it's hard to visualize doing that with someone else when you've already done it with someone and it didn't work out. That's especially, now you're like, ugh. Like she said, now you're guarded.

Lori (06:41.53)
Plus, I'm-

Right. think she's got, think she's got, there's a lot of people who need therapy on this show. Her, Shannon. Well, yeah. No, I know. This whole entire world. Yes. But she's just got so much, so many daddy issues. And I think that's why she likes Ralph. And I don't know.

Kelli (06:52.62)
Well, don't we all?

Wendy (06:54.146)
Yeah, exactly. do mean? It's not just on the show, it's in this world.

Kelli (06:56.802)
Don't we all? Yeah.

Kelli (07:08.118)
Well, she totally admits that. mean, and that's who she was married to, a much less handsome version, but.

Wendy (07:10.508)
Yes, yes she does.

Lori (07:16.122)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:16.524)
Right. Listen, I don't think she has to make the decision. I agree with you what you said. Think about it this way too. Her kids are a little bit older now. Do you want to start from scratch? Especially with somebody who's never had children before. So now you're going to be on your third, they're going to be on their first. Three is way more overwhelming than two. And this is his first, he's never done it before. There's so many factors in this.

Lori (07:39.674)
There's so much, yeah.

Kelli (07:40.578)
A lot of that. Yeah. A lot of factors. Yeah.

Wendy (07:43.374)
So I get it. get why she's a little bit, you know, and then, like I said, then she just starts kissing him. So she's like, you know what? Let's just enjoy the time we have here, right? Like, let's just make the most of this. Maybe we don't have to make the decision.

Kelli (07:53.686)
Yeah, well I think more of it, I mean, I get, I have stronger opinions about it at the end. I think more comes out at the end with these two.

Wendy (08:00.782)
Yeah. Yeah. Then we see Gisele walks up to Shannon and Shannon's talking to Jay. That's another interesting situation, but we'll wait until we get there with Jay. James brings Luanne a note and a gift of a glass heart. He stole the heart from the tree at the hotel.

Kelli (08:16.023)
Yeah.

Kelli (08:24.866)
I loved when they said, what do you think James's mugshot would look like? She's like, Ooh, like old Hollywood. She really thought about it. Like they were.

Wendy (08:31.682)
Yes. And they put their mug shots side by side.

Lori (08:32.825)
of fun.

Lori (08:38.724)
running.

Kelli (08:39.682)
That's so funny.

Wendy (08:41.546)
It was so funny.

Kelli (08:44.704)
I'm like, why is he bringing her one little flower on a white napkin? The fuck is this guy doing? Turns out he stole a glass heart off the tree.

Wendy (08:55.01)
That's right, right. And she's like, I love a man who steals for me. Look what he's Bonnie and Glock.

Kelli (08:59.138)
Exactly. Yeah.

Lori (09:00.76)
Yeah, that's a great line.

So what's, what you guys, what is your overall thoughts on him? Do you like him? There's something, yeah, there's something I like him. I like a kooky guy, but I don't know. think there's just something, there's just something a little off. I'm not, can't quite put my finger on it.

Wendy (09:10.338)
James?

Kelli (09:21.538)
I don't think he and Luan are riding off into the sunset together.

Wendy (09:25.249)
Mm, I don't think so either.

Lori (09:25.612)
It might be right for a little bit somewhere else.

Kelli (09:26.602)
Although they are definitely riding into her bedroom this evening, later on. But I don't think they're in it for the long haul. I think he's a, what do they say?

Lori (09:30.284)
Yes. Yes. Yes.

Wendy (09:31.693)
Yeah.

Kelli (09:39.382)
I don't know, good for right now, not good for, I don't know what I'm trying to think. Right, right.

Wendy (09:42.496)
Not good forever. Then we see Giselle's talking to Adam, giving him advice again about Shannon.

And then she gives him a deadline that he's got until 10 o'clock, because I guess that's the time that they're making their decisions. I didn't realize that until then. He's not sure if he should take their advice. He feels if Shannon was really comfortable with him, then he wouldn't need her to tell him. But no, that's not how it works.

Lori (10:11.491)
No.

Kelli (10:11.734)
No, you're on a competition show. You have to make the moves. She's not gonna make the moves. She's got three other guys making moves.

Wendy (10:15.072)
Right, that's not how it works.

Wendy (10:20.597)
Right, right.

Lori (10:21.336)
And she's not a move maker to begin with.

Kelli (10:23.946)
She's not a move maker.

Wendy (10:23.968)
Exactly. No, she's too nervous. So like she's too nervous. Ashley admits that she really has feelings for two men. Like she really does. And I guess the two men at this point are Wale and Ralph.

Lori (10:25.498)
She's not a movie maker. Yeah, she's not.

Kelli (10:28.864)
Yeah.

Kelli (10:40.588)
Yeah.

Wendy (10:43.092)
Shannon admits that she really likes Earl because he's easy. She doesn't have to put makeup on for him. She doesn't have to be something that she's not. Like he's just easy. He's comfortable. Which is odd because she had that big blow up over vegetables. Right?

Kelli (11:00.076)
telling you I really think alcohol infused that influence that reaction of hers.

Wendy (11:03.831)
Yeah.

Wendy (11:07.83)
Yeah. Then she brings up Adam's. Yeah.

Lori (11:09.358)
She just seems to be very dramatic. She just seems to be a drama queen.

Wendy (11:16.408)
She does bring up Adams very well educated. mean, he went to Oxford. she, you know, she does like an educated, sophisticated man, but I don't think she is ready to put the work in that comes with that. Because I feel like somebody like that needs somebody more like Luanne, who is willing to play the part. Because it's almost a part, right? Like, I don't feel like you can be yourself with somebody like that.

Kelli (11:16.577)
Yeah.

Kelli (11:30.081)
Right.

Kelli (11:35.958)
Yes.

Lori (11:42.605)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (11:42.871)
Yeah.

Wendy (11:45.804)
like you can with an earl, right?

Kelli (11:48.32)
Right, it's definitely a more relaxed vibe with Earl, the Pearl. Which by the way, I started following him on our TikTok account.

Wendy (11:51.658)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (11:58.232)
Good. I like that. I like that. Listen, I like that he has TikTok. Joel says to the man, you have anything you'd like to say, the ladies now is the time. And Jay steps up and says that he would like to gracefully bow out. This is the love hotel, not the friendship hotel. And I think everyone there was shocked.

Kelli (12:03.808)
He does have TikTok, yeah.

Wendy (12:24.514)
But I give him a lot of credit for that because he saw what was going on. He was really only interested in Giselle. And it was obvious that it wasn't reciprocated. And like he said, he wasn't there to make friends. He was there for the love hotel. What are your thoughts on that?

Lori (12:48.484)
think it's a class act. That's what I think.

Wendy (12:50.998)
Yeah, I do too. I do I do too. I do too. Yeah.

Kelli (12:51.04)
Me too. I think it was a smooth move, Jay. Very smooth move. Yep.

Lori (12:54.478)
Yeah, he's a smooth man.

Lori (12:59.748)
I think somebody else should have done that same. I think somebody else should have done that smooth move also.

Kelli (13:00.7)
obviously was in it for the right reasons. Yeah, I agree with you.

Wendy (13:05.058)
What did you say, Laura?

Wendy (13:10.754)
Who? Who do you think should have done it? okay. All right, so then chat.

Lori (13:12.346)
We'll get to that. We'll get to that. Here you go. Here you go.

Kelli (13:18.498)
I think I'm gonna totally agree with you and I think it's in my notes, but okay, let's do it.

Lori (13:22.583)
Okay.

Wendy (13:22.784)
Okay, so then Shannon goes first and she said it's very hard for her. She says to Adam, it was very good to get to know you, but I feel connected with Earl and I don't feel like I can go forward. I need to give him my key. So Shannon gives her key to Earl. Giselle is up next and she gives her key to Phil. Luann is up next and she gives her key to James.

And then last but not least, have Ashley. And before Ashley starts talking, Shannon whispers to Giselle, she has to give it to Wale. Ashley has to give it to Wale. And...

Wendy (14:09.406)
Then she said, Ralph, you are my silver fox and I have an attraction there. And I wasn't sure if I was going to act on it, but I decided to give my key to Ralph.

Kelli (14:20.386)
could not fucking believe that I was floored.

Wendy (14:22.446)
I was floor two. I was floor two.

Kelli (14:26.486)
Lord, were you floored?

Lori (14:28.966)
No, no, cause I think she, cause she's like, she's all over the place. I think that she thinks with, she thinks with her hoo-ha. She totally admits it. She has this, she has this coochie. She's always talking about a coochie. She was, she said, my coochie sweating. Like she's always talking about a coochie. The charge is a decision maker.

Wendy (14:31.074)
No.

Kelli (14:35.874)
She is all over the place.

Wendy (14:50.286)
Thank

Kelli (14:52.578)
The chach is the decision maker. But I mean, how are you not sexually attracted to Wale? You're sexually attracted to Ralph? I mean, okay, he's a handsome guy, but I don't know. I mean, if you line them up.

Lori (15:06.36)
Because I think that...

For her, a big part of her attraction is the security feature. And she looks at men who are older and white.

and with money as a security feature. Yeah, as a security feature. And that's a turn on for her.

Kelli (15:30.454)
With money. With money.

Kelli (15:39.212)
Yeah, I guess so.

Lori (15:40.408)
I think, I think while it was a turn on for her too, but not in the same way. I think she's afraid of that kind of, I think she's afraid to date somebody her age, quite frankly, or anywhere near her age.

Wendy (15:41.102)
Well, I think the.

Kelli (15:52.364)
Probably right probably

Wendy (15:57.206)
I think the thing with Ralph too, and Luanne says this too about him, is that he's very tall. So he's a very large man. Ashley's tiny. Michael, her ex, was not a large man. was a smaller man. think that, like you said, yes. I think that the strength is a physical strength. And I think it's...

Lori (16:03.29)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (16:10.33)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (16:17.174)
figuratively and physically.

Wendy (16:24.66)
It's emotional strength and I think it's a financial strength. I think it's a lot of things that she's, yes, drawn to with Ralph. That's just my guess. Then Joel announces that there's an additional key, but it will cost you a key in the next round. So the ladies decide they're going to discuss it and Shannon of course says, well, A deserves the key and Luanne doesn't agree.

Lori (16:29.61)
All those factors, yeah.

Kelli (16:32.097)
Yeah.

Lori (16:35.086)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (16:35.511)
Sure.

Wendy (16:53.046)
And Joel also announced that there'll be another dating pool tomorrow, another men coming in. So they do decide to give the key to Wale, even though Luanne doesn't agree. But what's confusing to me is that they say it's gonna cost a key tomorrow, but who gave the key? Like, was it Shannon that lost the key? Right?

Lori (17:13.25)
Right. Right. So who lost the key? I had that same question. Like, who is it that lost the key? Like, how does that work?

Wendy (17:18.41)
I guess we're gonna have to see.

Kelli (17:20.93)
Well, Shannon didn't lose the key because Shannon gave her key to the one guy for Luan. So Ashley, I think Ashley lost the key because Ashley didn't give anybody the key the next day.

Wendy (17:33.836)
Okay.

Lori (17:34.151)
maybe. Yeah.

Wendy (17:36.458)
Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that could be. So then Joel announces it tomorrow. Yeah. At the next dating pool.

Kelli (17:39.862)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:44.642)
Alright, so what were you gonna say, Laura?

Lori (17:46.778)
So I think that Wale should have been like, thanks but no thanks and made the smooth exit because Yigara Ashley is a mess. She's all over the place. She don't know what she's doing. yeah, she's...

Kelli (17:53.698)
Totally 100 % agree with you, that's in my note.

Kelli (18:05.772)
playing games. Which is okay because she's on a dating show but...

Lori (18:09.952)
Right. She's she's flitty.

Kelli (18:12.79)
I think it would have looked much cooler if Wale did what Jay did. I totally agree with you.

Wendy (18:18.168)
I agree 100%. I 100 % agree because he does walk up to her at the bar and he kind of calls her out on it. She's like, I really think I could fall in love with you. And he's like, what about your bad behavior? You selected Ralph and you're saying that you could fall in love with him and you can fall in love. What are you doing? Right. And you know.

Lori (18:40.398)
What are you doing?

Kelli (18:41.846)
Right, right.

Wendy (18:46.43)
He excuses himself and says, you know, he's going to leave. then Ashley invites Ralph back to her room immediately. I agree with you, Lori. think that he should have declined the key and moved on.

Lori (18:53.882)
Hmm.

Lori (19:01.07)
Yeah, I mean, if it was me, I would have been like, you know what, fuck this, I'm out. I'm a grown ass man, I'm not playing these bullshit games, just cookie check, no.

Wendy (19:06.839)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:06.956)
Yeah, yeah, I have my fun in Cabo. I gotta go.

Wendy (19:17.078)
I bet you in hindsight, he probably would even agree with you, you know, looking back on it, you know.

Lori (19:19.886)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (19:20.14)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Well, Ralph doesn't waste any time, tells Ashley he wants to make love to her. Now she was real quick with the, I just got my period today. It takes girls a little bit to come up with that.

Wendy (19:28.194)
Right.

Wendy (19:32.536)
right.

Wendy (19:38.552)
Does it?

Kelli (19:39.722)
I don't know, I thought that was super quick. I thought that was super, I'm like, damn. She does not want to hook up with him.

Lori (19:40.472)
Not her!

Wendy (19:42.412)
Nuh-uh.

No, I don't. gonna say.

Lori (19:46.137)
Well.

All I have to say is I can't take his growling. He growls. He growls. Growls like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no growling.

Wendy (19:55.662)
Mmm.

Kelli (19:57.004)
Stop saying, what are you doing Ashley?

Kelli (20:06.836)
And as soon, you know, like he was like kind of vibing with Gisele and as soon as Ashley showed interest, he just cut that off with Gisele. Like I just think that like he is on a huge ego boost from this. Right?

Lori (20:13.362)
yeah.

yeah.

Wendy (20:21.131)
definitely. I mean, everyone liked him. All of them liked him.

Lori (20:22.139)
yeah. yeah.

Kelli (20:27.2)
Yeah, but when the young chippy said it...

Lori (20:29.562)
Yeah. Yeah. When young Hottie was like, Oh yeah. He was like, Oh, okay. He did like the 360 and everybody else was dirt.

Kelli (20:33.964)
Yeah.

Wendy (20:39.191)
Yeah.

Kelli (20:39.873)
Yeah.

Wendy (20:41.656)
Well, Ashley also admitted to producers that she didn't in fact have her period, she lied. Yeah.

Kelli (20:46.144)
Right, that's what I'm saying. Normally it's like, I'm not feeling good, or I have a headache, or I'm just so tired. She went right in for the kill. There's the only one way to shut it down. She shut it down.

Lori (20:46.163)
yeah.

Lori (20:59.374)
Right. You shut it down. But we find out later. Right. We find out later why.

Kelli (21:02.37)
There's no shoutout.

Wendy (21:09.878)
so then Shannon said she hasn't had comfort in a lot of her relationships, which I completely have seen, like we've seen this happen. But, but with Earl, she can just be herself. And I do think that, like, I do think that her and Earl have a good,

Kelli (21:17.538)
Yeah, we've witnessed it.

Wendy (21:28.536)
camaraderie right now. think it could be more. I mean, I don't think she should like, you know, move in with them immediately. I think that she should, you know, go slowly and see if it can work because they are from geographically different places. you know, I think Georgia, yeah. Yeah. And it's like, yeah. And it's like, it's not like in the city. It's like an hour away from like Atlanta or something. So it's like, it's not, you know, it's not the city.

Kelli (21:37.175)
Yeah.

Kelli (21:41.888)
Yeah, where does he live?

Lori (21:43.204)
Georgia, I think.

Kelli (21:45.538)
God, they're on opposite sides of the country.

Lori (21:48.898)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (21:57.038)
So I think that she should proceed with caution, you know, because that's a big change. She's a California girl.

Kelli (21:57.271)
Yeah.

Kelli (22:04.727)
Yeah.

Wendy (22:07.79)
then what happens the next morning? yes. They sit down and they go over what happened in the evening. we see Luann is working out in the gym with James and Shannon's on the couch talking to Wale.

Kelli (22:11.934)
Ashley does a tell-all with Giselle.

Lori (22:28.058)
We're not going to talk about the reptilian tongue? We're not going talk about that?

Wendy (22:29.228)
Gizelle.

Wendy (22:35.224)
Kelli (22:35.7)
yeah, mean Ashley tells Giselle that her make out with Ralph was not good.

Wendy (22:40.128)
Yeah, not good at all.

Lori (22:41.006)
Yeah, but he had lizard, lizard kissing, lizard tongue. No, but how does a grown ass man like that, you know, decent looking guy not know how to kiss?

Kelli (22:44.608)
Lizard tongue. Nobody wants lizard tongue. Whoa.

Wendy (22:46.272)
Yeah. No, no. Nobody wants that. You're right.

Kelli (22:56.022)
Listen, if you're a good kisser, you're a good kisser. If you're a bad kisser, you're a bad kisser. That's it. You're one or the other. And I don't think you really ever know which category you fall into.

Lori (23:03.95)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (23:08.44)
The weird thing is...

Wendy (23:14.648)
Well, I think you know, don't you know?

Kelli (23:16.864)
I mean, if you're a bad kisser, how do you know you're a bad kisser unless somebody tells you? Now Ralph knows he's a bad kisser.

Lori (23:20.59)
Well, hopefully somebody will tell you.

Wendy (23:24.13)
I mean, but she kissed him prior to that. That's what I don't understand. Why did it take that kiss for her to realize it?

Lori (23:30.116)
I don't know, maybe he wasn't pulling the reptilian deal then on the first go around.

Kelli (23:30.164)
It must have been more passionate.

Wendy (23:36.45)
Here's.

Kelli (23:36.524)
Maybe it wasn't, you know, he wasn't all in yet. Now he's all in and it's no bueno.

Lori (23:40.058)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:40.142)
Hmm.

Lori (23:43.18)
Yeah, the reptile's coming out.

Wendy (23:46.072)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:49.868)
It was funny Giselle's reaction. She's like, lizard, no, no,

Kelli (23:50.082)
It's all in the kiss.

Kelli (23:54.76)
No, nobody wants that. I just pictured Kelly from Atlanta, not the lizard!

She yells everything!

Wendy (24:10.638)
let's see. The ladies come to the beach and Joel meets them on the beach in his speedo bathing suit. What was that all about?

Lori (24:18.81)
Stop, stop it, stop it, just stop it, stop.

Kelli (24:21.12)
I didn't need to.

Wendy (24:24.494)
I still don't know what was that all about.

Kelli (24:25.612)
Free advertisement, that's what that was. Free advertisement. No, for Joel!

Wendy (24:28.588)
For what, Speedo?

Wendy (24:32.938)
What was he advertising? No. No, that was bad. That was bad.

Kelli (24:34.642)
MC-

Lori (24:34.81)
It's PC deal.

I was like, what are you doing, bro? What are you doing? I didn't get it.

Kelli (24:41.036)
Yeah, exactly.

Wendy (24:48.43)
So that's when he announces there are going to be six new men and only three keys available. And there's one more thing, that there was one man that got away a little too early, so he decided to bring him back. And out comes Mark. I was so happy to see Mark. Luanne was happy to see Mark.

Kelli (24:48.706)
putting it all out.

Kelli (25:09.516)
with his Palazzo pants on. I'm like, is he wearing Palazzo pants?

Wendy (25:11.79)
I mean...

Kelli (25:15.906)
the fuck is going on right now? They were wrapped, wrapped Palazzo pants.

Lori (25:18.308)
with a macrame vest.

Lori (25:23.096)
Yeah. And the macrame vest, was too much. was too much. Yes.

Wendy (25:27.29)
He was a little Aladdin like, a little Aladdin like, a little Aladdin.

Kelli (25:28.278)
They were linen! Very Aladdin. Very Aladdin. This is Mexico, Mark. Mexico.

Wendy (25:34.134)
Yes.

and poor Giselle is not really feeling the new batch of men. She didn't like the second batch of men either.

Kelli (25:43.2)
Now, there was nobody there for her.

No, she did not.

Wendy (25:50.198)
Lori (25:52.935)
I don't feel like she's in it to the same degree that the other girls are.

Wendy (25:53.142)
and lua

Kelli (25:58.146)
I think she's just a hard nut to crack, man.

Lori (26:01.528)
You think that's it? You don't think she's just there to hang out?

Wendy (26:01.686)
I think that that's true. Yeah, I think that's it.

Kelli (26:03.84)
And I don't think she's gonna, if she's interested, she's interested. If she's not interested, she's not playing, like she's not messing around. She's, yeah. Or Luanne, or Shannon really. Like they were all kind of feeling the waters, testing the waters, but.

Lori (26:12.11)
Right. She's not messing around. She's not doing any Ashliness.

Wendy (26:13.538)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:26.284)
But again, Luan basically is telling Mark to kiss her and he doesn't. Like what are the, I don't understand what these men are thinking. You're gonna get kicked off. Just make a move.

Wendy (26:30.135)
Right.

Lori (26:30.54)
Wow, what's up with these guys? Yeah!

Wendy (26:37.005)
Right.

Lori (26:38.072)
And especially Mark, it's his second go-round. I'd be like all up on her shit right away. Like, you know, I missed out last time. Let me, yeah, jump on it.

Kelli (26:41.814)
Yeah!

Yes, jump on it.

Wendy (26:45.206)
Yeah, absolutely. Right. Yes.

Kelli (26:50.476)
Jump on it.

Lori (26:51.704)
Yeah, and Luanne is a... Yeah.

Wendy (26:52.13)
I mean, Luan even said I'm half naked. Half naked and he doesn't give me a kiss. Like, what does it take? mean, what does it take?

Kelli (26:56.394)
Right. Right.

I'll tell you what, James got a kiss that night.

Wendy (27:05.069)
Yes, you did.

Lori (27:05.515)
Yeah, buddy.

Wendy (27:08.59)
So then Ashley's getting to know Scott. He's 38 years old. She thinks that he seems unbothered. He's one of the new guys. And also Calvin comes in and brings Ashley a drink and says that Ashley, got to make some s'mores. And just like that, she takes him away from Scott, which listen, I got to give him points for that, you know?

Kelli (27:32.3)
I do too, but that Scott guy was so funny, wasn't he? When he was like, I just had somebody set this up for us real quick.

Wendy (27:37.89)
Yep.

Kelli (27:40.31)
when they walked over to that area. I thought he was very funny. Like I'm a sucker for a funny guy.

Lori (27:46.939)
most definitely.

If you can't kiss and you can't make me laugh, you're done.

Kelli (27:55.764)
Exactly.

Wendy (27:57.122)
Yeah, that's so true. That's so true. So Shannon says she's going to stick with Earl. So Luanne gives a key to Mitch. Giselle gives a key to Jay. And Shannon gives a key to Mark.

Kelli (28:14.338)
for Luann. So Ashley did not give a key out.

Wendy (28:15.448)
for Luanne.

Lori (28:19.512)
No, you're right.

Wendy (28:19.596)
Right. Right. And there was, but there was only three keys this time, not four, which is why, right.

Kelli (28:25.088)
Right, right, because, yeah, because they saved Wale the night before.

Wendy (28:31.702)
Right. So the ladies are having a powwow and we find out that Mitch is in his 60s and he wants to travel all over. Luann likes that. Ashley now has Scott and Calvin and they're trying to tell Ashley she's not going to pick Calvin over Wale or Ralph. So they're trying to figure out like what is going on. The guys are so surprised to see that Mark is back.

But they welcomed him, you know, they were like, you know, he did, he really did.

Kelli (29:04.726)
Yeah, Wale seemed super happy to see him.

He's like, my man.

Lori (29:10.99)
And it does seem like they're nice and friendly with each other, which is nice. And there's even, you know, they even post pictures online of all themselves together. it seems like some of them, yeah, that some of them, I think that they're going to be friends, which is really cute. Because guys, especially guys of a certain age, really usually don't make a lot of friends. So it's nice to see that.

Wendy (29:14.99)
No, they do. They do. They do.

Kelli (29:16.1)
yeah.

Wendy (29:22.338)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (29:22.831)
I didn't know that.

Kelli (29:27.775)
that's nice. I like that.

Wendy (29:43.992)
So then we see James is claiming Luanne saying that she's his girlfriend and Luanne says, no, you're not. But then they go back to her room. But they go back to her room and James says that I don't want them to catch me with my pants down and Luanne puts the towel over the camera. I mean, she may not be his girlfriend, but he's definitely getting what he wants, right?

Lori (29:49.816)
Yeah, he better back it up.

Kelli (30:07.99)
I think they're making moves this night.

Lori (30:08.151)
Well, I, yeah, I think what it is is Luanne is getting what she wants. I think that's what it is. That's what it is.

Wendy (30:10.07)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (30:15.18)
Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely.

Kelli (30:15.794)
yeah. Yeah.

Lori (30:19.522)
I think what James wants is out of the equation.

Kelli (30:20.332)
So now...

Right.

Wendy (30:27.202)
Then I have Wale and Ashley are trying to have a serious conversation and Wale feels like she's like a game controller. She likes, and I agree with them, she likes to play games. Yeah, I do. And this whole conversation does not go well. Like she's not understanding what it is he's saying.

Lori (30:33.358)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (30:35.763)
I agree with them.

Lori (30:42.276)
No.

Nope.

Kelli (30:45.952)
And she says it could potentially be a problem, like the kid thing, but then she gets mad at him for insinuating that it could potentially be a problem. Did you catch that?

Lori (30:56.296)
Uh-huh. Absolutely.

Wendy (30:56.524)
Right. Yes. Yeah.

Kelli (31:00.362)
And she was getting like all jacked up. Like, I agree with you, he should have left when they first gave him the key. If I were him here, I would have been like, listen.

Lori (31:03.352)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (31:12.628)
I don't know what any of this is. I'm going like I can. I want off the roller coaster. Get me off.

Lori (31:16.524)
Right, right. I'm not interested in finding out anymore.

Yes, yes. And she really wouldn't even let him talk. She was just saying what she had to say and not listening to what he was saying. She was just busy saying what she was saying, but was in no way listening to anything that he had to say. It wasn't a conversation. It was a one-way conversation.

Wendy (31:25.805)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:29.889)
No.

Wendy (31:48.012)
Yeah, it was.

Kelli (31:48.716)
I think that a lot of these reality TV stars get themselves in such a tizzy sometimes and they think they're making good TV or whatever the hell they think they're doing that they soon realize that they sound like a jackass and they can't get themselves out of it so they just talk over the other person.

Wendy (32:06.958)
It could be. It could be. Yeah, I mean, that whole conversation did not go well. I agree with you, Wale should just back out at this point because Ashley is not a good fit for him. she doesn't, he doesn't need to. Right, right. Yeah. So we'll have to wait and see what happens on the next episode, right? Cause I don't have anything else. Do you have anything else after that? No.

Lori (32:06.998)
I don't know.

Kelli (32:09.067)
You know?

Lori (32:19.354)
Mm-mm.

Kelli (32:19.658)
Now, right, you make the decision, you bow out.

Kelli (32:29.698)
Mm-hmm.

No, that was my last note.

Lori (32:33.338)
Yeah, online I came across a younger girl who was really cute and she did a post and she was saying how she felt like it was really refreshing and educational in some ways to see like, yeah, to see like an older group of women dating. She said, I find it much more enjoyable than like a bunch of 20-somethings just, you know.

Wendy (32:48.918)
educational.

Lori (33:01.21)
drinking and hooting it up. Yeah, like Love Island. She's like, yeah. But it was just an interesting take from someone younger about watching women who were older dating. And I saw another post with Giselle and they were asking her about some red flags that she saw. She said several of the gentlemen

Kelli (33:01.717)
like Love Island. That's hard to watch, Love Island.

Wendy (33:02.656)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (33:31.128)
were too much of drinkers. Like, morning, afternoon, night, like an all day ripping it up.

Kelli (33:39.082)
And she's not a drinker, Giselle. I don't think she's a drinker.

Lori (33:41.58)
No, she said, know, she's all have a cocktail in the evening. That's fine. But she wasn't having that. And she said.

Wendy (33:49.902)
don't think we've ever seen Gisele intoxicated. No, I don't think we ever have in all the years and that's saying a lot.

Kelli (33:52.586)
No. No. It sure is. And I don't think we've ever seen Ashley, like, you see Ashley drink. You see Ashley take a sip of a drink. don't, know, Gisele.

Lori (33:57.324)
Mm-hmm. And then she would...

Wendy (34:06.668)
Yeah, I've never seen Ashley really intoxicated either. No, you're right. I have not. I have not.

Kelli (34:10.614)
No.

Lori (34:12.922)
And then she said, and she said this in a way that sounded plural, that there were some men there who were just a little too quickly possessive. So at first I was thinking, oh, well, maybe she's just referring to like what just went on with James. But I think that there was probably more than one because she made it sound a little plural. So that was interesting.

Kelli (34:41.356)
Yeah.

Lori (34:43.951)
Till we'll see.

Kelli (34:44.108)
I just like how they kind of look out for each other. Like Shannon was like, well, I'm gonna pick, you know, Mark for Luan, because I think he might be a good pick for her.

Lori (34:48.92)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah. Nice to see that instead of all the bickering.

Wendy (34:54.541)
Right.

Yeah. Yes, exactly.

Kelli (34:59.752)
Exactly. Yes.

Wendy (35:02.86)
And they tried to the men advice too, to help them. Right. I like that too.

Kelli (35:05.876)
Right, right, to help their friends. It's only gonna help their friends if they can get through to the guys.

Wendy (35:11.575)
Right.

Lori (35:13.146)
So we'll see.

Kelli (35:13.974)
Man, Jay, that was a classy move, Jay.

Lori (35:16.974)
Very classy.

Wendy (35:17.804)
I hope they have a love hotel reunion.

Lori (35:20.676)
That would be a nice idea.

Kelli (35:21.098)
Me too.

Wendy (35:22.818)
But I don't know, can they with Joel?

Lori (35:26.586)
don't know. So weird.

Kelli (35:26.612)
No, they have to have somebody else host it. Andy can host it.

Wendy (35:29.42)
Well, Andy can host it.

Lori (35:31.222)
Louann Knoosted.

Wendy (35:34.006)
Well, Luanne can host it. Yeah, she can host the next one. I think Andy should host this one and then Luanne can be the next host and Luanne can host the next one. All right, bravo. Listen to us. We would like a love hotel reunion.

Kelli (35:34.556)
She's gotta be there. She could host the next one.

Lori (35:37.284)
Thank you.

Kelli (35:47.916)
Yeah, in all honesty, Bravo, we gave you a lot of good ideas tonight. The boat thing, the love boat thing, I mean.

Wendy (35:51.372)
I know. Yes.

Lori (35:53.614)
Listen, we've given several, several, not just tonight, over the long haul, they just need to call us up and we'll tell them how to fix all their fucked up business.

Kelli (35:58.432)
Yes. Yeah, like hit us up. For real.

Wendy (36:04.141)
Yeah.

Kelli (36:09.687)
That's what.

Wendy (36:09.986)
Yeah, there you go. And if Andy would like us to come and be the bartender and watch What Happens Live, we're available. We're just to train right away. Just to train right away.

Kelli (36:14.704)
Ugh.

Lori (36:16.526)
Yeah, that's right. We'll come fix the whole shenanigans. We'll fix it all.

Kelli (36:18.422)
We really are just a train ride away.

Kelli (36:24.182)
Yeah, ask us and we'll, yeah.

Wendy (36:24.972)
Or we'll pour drinks, whatever's needed. Listen, whatever you need us to do, we'll do it.

Lori (36:33.018)
There you go. Yeah.

Kelli (36:35.286)
We're Jack of all trades, master of none.

Wendy (36:37.548)
That's it. Okay, well until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please give us five star reviews and subscribe. Bye.

Kelli (36:48.492)
Bye.

Lori (36:48.602)
Bye.