Love Hotel- Keys, Confessions & Cock Blocks

Wendy (00:00.869)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.555)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:04.631)
and I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:06.321)
We are talking about Love Hotel Season 1 Episode 2. Three's a crowd. Good title.

Lori (00:14.126)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (00:14.518)
I have an apology. I have to issue an apology.

Wendy (00:18.169)
Okay. Who are you apologizing to? Why?

Lori (00:18.766)
To whom?

Kelli (00:19.952)
To you too. I don't know if you realized last week, but I kept referring to somebody as Frederick

Lori (00:28.918)
Nope, we didn't even notice. Didn't even notice.

Kelli (00:30.712)
It was, I was talking about the guy Nick that likes Ashley and I was so adamant about Frederick to the point where I actually corrected one of you. One of you said Nick and I'm like, no, I think you're talking about Frederick. There's no Frederick. I have no idea where I got that from.

Wendy (00:34.873)
Wendy (00:45.233)
That's so funny.

Lori (00:45.291)
Okay, well...

Lori (00:49.752)
Well, you just had a momentary Frederick thing going on.

Kelli (00:52.856)
I was watching this morning and I'm like, there's no Frederick. But I'm like, I was totally talking about the guy Nick.

Wendy (00:52.891)
I did.

Lori (00:56.3)
so funny.

Wendy (00:58.577)
That's so funny. Yeah, yeah, the crypto guy. Exactly.

Kelli (01:00.57)
The crypto guy gave me the ick. Yeah.

Lori (01:03.17)
Yeah, he was a little, there was something a little, I don't know what it was. Something, you're right. Something was off. Yeah. Something was not right there. I'm with you on that one.

Kelli (01:06.806)
Something was off. I know. Yeah.

Wendy (01:16.333)
Okay. So we start out with Ashley and Wale in the gym. And we also see Luanne is also working out with Mark. They're doing some kind of yoga. Then in the, after that Mark, Mark comes out to the breakfast and he said that Jerry gave him a hard time about Luanne because he had asked her to do yoga in the morning, which I thought he did.

Kelli (01:43.214)
He kind of put it out there to all of them. And Luanne said, I would like to do that with you.

Wendy (01:46.224)
He did.

Yeah, yeah. Listen, Jerry, you don't own Luanne and all she do is surf and all she do is surf and she doesn't want to surf. So. Right.

Kelli (01:54.35)
You're on a dating show.

Kelli (01:58.832)
Right. And you're on a dating show.

Lori (01:59.448)
and listen.

She is the last person in the world to be owned by anyone. So I don't know where you think you're going, but you're going nowhere is where you're going.

Wendy (02:06.065)
Isn't that a fact?

Kelli (02:06.788)
Right.

Kelli (02:11.492)
Right.

Wendy (02:15.739)
So Ashley's sitting there at breakfast and then Luanne walks out and Ashley lets Luanne know what happened about what Mark was saying. And as she's telling Luanne about what Mark said, then Jerry starts walking in as Gisele is walking in. And she knew all about it too. Yes. So I did think that that was good. So they should all be on notice that they are all talking to each other. So this is a show. It's a dating show.

Kelli (02:30.928)
It's like, you're talking about me?

Lori (02:43.752)
Yeah, this is a show. Yeah.

Kelli (02:43.888)
Yeah, what you say and do will be talked about by other castmates.

Wendy (02:48.461)
Right. Then Shannon says to Luanne, how do you feel about having two men fighting over you? Luanne's like, yeah, no, I know. And Shannon's like, I would feel bad. Like, of course you would, Shannon. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. I love her confidence. do. Nicholas, Nicholas or Nick, otherwise known as Frederick.

Lori (02:59.096)
She's so cute.

Kelli (02:59.748)
Luanne's like, this is a Friday night for me. This is a regular Friday night.

Lori (03:02.636)
Yeah, it's all good. This is how it's supposed to be.

Kelli (03:07.034)
That's right.

Kelli (03:17.328)
I

Lori (03:17.518)
It's Frederick. AKA Frederick.

Wendy (03:19.697)
That's okay. This is the only episode we'll have to talk about him. Is hopeful that he will get a date with Ashley. And then Joel comes out and announces that they're going to have a group date. That each woman will be allowed to ask out two men. And if the men get asked out on multiple dates from multiple women, then the power ships back.

Kelli (03:24.528)
That's right, that's

Wendy (03:48.325)
to the men and they get to decide who they want to go out with. Which I thought,

Kelli (03:52.28)
You could tell Shannon and Giselle weren't feeling this.

Wendy (03:55.638)
Well, I don't think Gisele had a problem with it. It was just Shannon.

Lori (03:55.916)
No, no.

Kelli (03:58.764)
At first she was like, I don't, I don't know. I mean, she got comfortable with it, but.

Wendy (04:02.001)
Oh no, yeah. So Shannon, mean, out of the gate says, you know, I'd like to start the process and she'd like to ask Ralph on a date and Ralph is flattered, but he says he has mixed emotions because he knows how much that Earl really likes Shannon and, you know, he's a little bit worried about that. It is nice of him, but it is a dating show.

Lori (04:02.488)
Yeah. Right.

Lori (04:24.92)
which is nice of them.

Kelli (04:29.184)
Did that's what I was gonna ask. Did he say that in a confessional or like to the group?

Wendy (04:35.077)
he said it to the group. I think he did. Yeah. And then Shannon also asked Jay if he'd like to go on a date. I was surprised about that, but then I guess she wanted to get some information about Jay for Gisele, which I was like, okay, that makes sense.

Kelli (04:36.228)
to the group.

Lori (04:37.162)
Yeah, I think so too. I think so too.

Kelli (04:49.594)
Yeah.

Lori (04:49.87)
Mm-hmm. That was nice, too.

Kelli (04:52.078)
Which, yeah, which speaks to what you said Giselle said on Watch What Happens Live where they were kind of being each other's wing woman. Yeah.

Wendy (04:59.577)
Yes, yes. So then Ashley asks out Jerry and Nicholas. Now, obviously she said that she wanted to get to know Nicholas, right? So she couldn't ask out Wale because, you know, Nicholas would not have a shot. And, you know, she knew Jerry was kind of like just another guy, right?

Kelli (05:14.074)
Right.

Kelli (05:28.004)
Yeah, and it was a smooth move because she kind of saved Jerry because he was probably hoping that Luann was gonna pick him and she didn't. And then like she said, like he can just kind of be a buffer.

Wendy (05:35.865)
Right, right.

Wendy (05:40.741)
Yeah. So then Luanne asks Mark and Ralph. Now, Ralph has to decide, but he doesn't say anything yet because then...

Lori (05:53.102)
Now, I want to point this out. Did anybody catch this? When Ralph was trying to decide who he wanted to go on a date with, Luann nudged him with her elbow. She nudged him with her elbow. It was real quick. I caught it. I was like, look at you, girl. Oh yeah. If you watch it back, you'll see she nudges him real quick with her elbow.

Wendy (06:07.388)
no, I didn't catch that.

Kelli (06:13.39)
I didn't see that either.

Wendy (06:14.785)
I did not, I did not.

Lori (06:22.446)
It's funny.

Wendy (06:22.916)
Interesting.

Interesting. then Giselle said she would like to take out Philip, because we don't know anything about Philip yet. So, I was happy that, you know, she picked him. And then she also asked Ralph out.

Kelli (06:37.902)
Not at all.

Lori (06:45.46)
Ralph's the man.

Wendy (06:45.905)
So now Ralph has to decide Shannon, Luanne, or Giselle. And, you know, he says it's really cool, but it's uncomfortable. And he chooses Giselle, which I bet Luanne was pissed. That was my guess.

Kelli (06:51.726)
Right.

Kelli (07:04.132)
was thinking, I was thinking Luann was probably, yeah.

Lori (07:04.403)
I'm sure. I'm sure. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (07:12.209)
But you know what, when Shannon and Luanne are talking about it in the confessional, because Shannon admitted that she was upset that Luanne said, Ralph after she did. then just, Luanne said to her, well, Giselle is a very beautiful woman. Well, there was no question about whether or not Giselle was a very beautiful woman. We all know that. Like, you know, like I, right, right.

Kelli (07:35.844)
Right, right. Like that's why he chose her. Like obvious. I mean, he wanted to get to know her. Well, they were talking the night before.

Wendy (07:45.387)
Yeah, I don't know. She was trying to play it off that she wasn't mad, I think, is when Shannon said that, but I think she was mad. I think she was definitely mad. So then Shannon's like, well, then I get to pick somebody else. So she picks Earl. And then the only one left is Wale. So, know, Luanne winds up with Wale.

Lori (07:46.082)
Yeah. And it is it. Right. Right.

Kelli (07:49.87)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (08:06.789)
Yeah.

Wendy (08:08.656)
Kelli (08:09.392)
How about when he had mango in his, on his lip and she was like, I'll get it. And she goes to get it with her lips. And he said, don't do that. Like he, he stopped her right away.

Lori (08:13.92)
Yeah

Wendy (08:18.927)
Yes.

Lori (08:18.936)
huh, huh.

Wendy (08:22.353)
Yes, he did. He did.

Lori (08:22.572)
Yeah, because he didn't want Ashley to say. He was like watching it.

Kelli (08:26.808)
Yeah, yeah. I agree.

Wendy (08:27.845)
That's very respectful. That's very respectful.

Lori (08:31.97)
But Luan is funny. She's such a barracuda. She's you know, swimming up to him.

Wendy (08:37.105)
She is. She really is. She is a man eater. She really is.

Kelli (08:39.042)
Exactly.

Lori (08:42.754)
Yeah, she really is. is.

Kelli (08:43.524)
Definitely is. I want to know her fitness routine, man, because her body is sick. Sick.

Lori (08:47.449)
my god.

Wendy (08:50.576)
Yeah.

Lori (08:51.252)
Absolutely. All of them. It's just horrible because I'm nowhere near that.

Kelli (08:54.852)
But hers, I mean, they're all good shape, but she's just not ripped, but so tone, so tone.

Lori (09:03.854)
So toned. Yeah.

Wendy (09:04.081)
You know what, I think with her, I'll be honest with you, I think it's gotta be genetics because she was on, she was on Watch What Happens Live. And although we did see her working out, they were doing different poses and stuff, asked her, Andy said the same thing, like, your body is amazing. How often do you work out? And she's like, thank you, thank you, two or three days a week. You don't get that body from working out two or three, it's gotta be genetic.

Kelli (09:09.447)
It has to be.

Lori (09:10.466)
Yeah, it has to be.

Kelli (09:31.832)
You, it has to be.

Wendy (09:34.073)
And then she was complimenting Ashley, how amazing Ashley's body is. But again, I think hers is genetic also, okay? And she's young. I think that some people just genetically have that lean, know, fit body, regardless of, you know I'm saying? Like, I don't think there's anything on the planet I could do to get that body. I really don't. I mean, I...

Kelli (09:40.354)
I do too.

Lori (09:40.691)
huh. huh.

Kelli (09:46.799)
Not me.

Lori (09:56.512)
No. No. No. No. It's just not happening.

Kelli (09:58.563)
me neither, me neither.

Wendy (10:01.046)
I could get it with plastic surgery. Like you could suck everything out or do it like it's still I'm just not gonna be that.

Lori (10:05.794)
Yeah, still not gonna be, nope. Not gonna be that.

Kelli (10:09.09)
No, that's what I mean, Luan is so tone.

Wendy (10:13.349)
Yeah, it's, it's gotta be genetic.

Lori (10:13.774)
Yeah. You know, my, my friend, um, is like that. She's maybe, maybe she's 67, but she's just like on fire. am like fat, frumpy, lumpy next to, I know, but next to, but next to her and she's 67, I'm like, Oh my God. No, no.

Wendy (10:23.557)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (10:31.204)
You really are not.

Wendy (10:32.715)
No, you're not. Next to her, you feel that way, right?

Kelli (10:35.748)
Yeah, well, she's not the one you want to go to the beach with.

Wendy (10:38.563)
Right, yeah, don't go to the beach with that bitch.

Kelli (10:40.078)
I'm very picky choosy about who I go to the beach with.

Lori (10:42.827)
Absolutely. Yeah.

Wendy (10:45.361)
I mean, I don't, yeah, whatever. You guys wanna go to the beach with me? We can go to the beach.

Kelli (10:49.712)
We can go to the beach.

Lori (10:49.934)
Yeah, I'll go to the beach with you, Wendy. I'll go with you, Kelly. I'm not going with my other friend, though. Forget it. No.

Wendy (10:54.737)
No, no, no skinny bitches. Mark likes Luanne. He likes that she's a wise ass. And Luanne says that Mark kind of reminds her of what she had before and she flashes back to Tom. They do a flashback to Tom and she feels like, you know, he's there to play. And also he's the New Yorker, like he's the New Yorker. So it's like,

Kelli (10:59.086)
That's right. We should get t-shirts made up.

Kelli (11:13.348)
Yeah.

Lori (11:23.104)
Yeah, it's what she's used to already. Yeah. It's probably looking for something different, a little something different.

Wendy (11:24.015)
She's been down that road. Right. She doesn't need to go that way. Right.

Kelli (11:28.686)
And she said to him, like, you looking for love? He said, I'm looking to have fun. So he kind of said it, you know.

Wendy (11:32.259)
Right. He did. And then she starts talking to Wale about, you know, Ashley and she's like trying to help those two to get together. So she suggests that he should write her a while she's on the other date. I was like, okay.

Lori (11:32.547)
Yeah.

Lori (11:46.849)
This is so funny.

Kelli (11:50.266)
Yeah, I was, yeah, and he said it. He's like, you're savage. It was, it really was.

Lori (11:51.159)
Hmm.

Wendy (11:54.833)
It really was.

Lori (11:55.306)
Yeah.

Lori (12:01.506)
Yeah, Luanne's got game.

Kelli (12:03.14)
She does, Luanne's got game, for sure.

Wendy (12:03.213)
Yeah. But so does, honestly, Luann, Giselle and Ashley, they all have game. You know who doesn't is Shannon.

Lori (12:05.71)
So, yes, correct.

Lori (12:09.966)
Oh, all of them. Oh, all of them. All of them. Oh yeah. It's Shanna. No, Shanna's not a game girl.

Kelli (12:13.68)
I know. And Ashley's all right, but Luan and Gisele, for sure, are far superior.

Wendy (12:19.728)
Yeah.

Lori (12:20.042)
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of neck and neck. I'm thinking.

Wendy (12:24.261)
Well, listen, when Ashley is their age, she'll be right there. They have a lot more experience than she does, right? Giselle asked Ralph if he gets bored on relationships, and he said no. Giselle said about Ralph, he's giving her like, I'm not sure if he's like cool, like Mac Daddy, or he's like cool, no drama. But.

Kelli (12:27.985)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Lori (12:28.211)
yes, I believe this. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (12:52.313)
She likes that he's not falling all over her and he's not. So, because some men really do like fall all over her.

Kelli (12:54.862)
Right, he's not.

Kelli (13:00.58)
Well, I mean, most of them are doing, mean, Wale and Nick are both doing that with Ashley.

Lori (13:00.951)
Well.

Wendy (13:07.098)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (13:08.898)
Earl's not really doing it though, but he's keeping Shannon's attention at least.

Wendy (13:11.469)
No. Yes. Then Jay asked Earl if he's been married before. And then we find out that Earl has a stepson. We didn't know that. And that they got divorced and the ex-wife never let him see him again, which is horrible.

Kelli (13:29.36)
Yeah.

Lori (13:29.485)
Yeah.

Kelli (13:35.824)
and he still has a motorcycle waiting for him.

Lori (13:35.864)
That's horrible. That's horrible. Yeah, that's horrible.

Wendy (13:38.989)
Yes, since he was 11, like that's crazy. Right?

Kelli (13:44.164)
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's like move on to the next.

Lori (13:44.888)
some people.

Sound people.

Wendy (13:50.883)
Yeah. Ashley asks Nicholas and Jerry if they've ever dated a black woman and Nick says to Jerry, I'll give that to you like he's afraid to answer.

Kelli (14:02.029)
I don't think either one of them really wanted to answer it.

Wendy (14:04.945)
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lori (14:05.069)
no, they were both fumbling with that ball. They all fumbling with that ball.

Kelli (14:07.266)
I agree. mean, Jerry finally said he has, but I don't think either one of them were really super excited to answer that.

Wendy (14:13.689)
Yeah, he admitted in high school and her name was Angel and Nick said he'd never... There's no difference.

Lori (14:19.116)
And why not? But what's the difference? Like, yeah, I don't understand what the even hesitation was, right?

Kelli (14:21.114)
Who can't, yeah. Yeah, like whether you have or not. Right. You're obviously attracted to her, so it doesn't matter.

Wendy (14:26.352)
I didn't.

Lori (14:28.086)
Right. I would have been like, no, but I'm looking at you girl and you're looking fine. So that would have been the line. You know what I mean?

Kelli (14:33.986)
Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (14:35.765)
Right, Nick asks her if she's ever dated a white guy and she just starts laughing. I was like, God, Nick, get it together.

Kelli (14:43.012)
Ha ha ha ha ha!

Turn your TV on, tune into Bravo, Nick.

Wendy (14:50.561)
Right. And meanwhile, back over at Gisele's camp, she asked them if they've ever dated a black woman. And Ralph said he has. And Phillip said, I am black. And she's like, yeah, I know. But some black men don't date black women. And he's like, well, I know very few. But I have, obviously.

Kelli (15:14.032)
And then he says he has a house in Bel Air, Giselle Perks, right?

Wendy (15:17.125)
Yes.

Lori (15:17.174)
Yeah, her eyes get a little sparkle.

Kelli (15:20.368)
Cause I was thinking about it. I think Sutton and Kathy Hilton both live in Bel Air.

Wendy (15:26.063)
And so did the Fresh Prince.

Kelli (15:28.088)
And so did the fresh prints.

Lori (15:28.854)
And so did the freshmen. Yes, he did. Mm hmm. Yes.

Wendy (15:31.928)
it.

Kelli (15:32.292)
Yes, with Uncle Phil and Aunt Viv.

Wendy (15:35.215)
Isn't that where O.J. lives also? no, he was in Brentwood, not in Bel Air, Brentwood. So Giselle asks Phil if he's ever been mistaken for one of the Jacksons. I thought that was interesting. He does have that, yeah, he does. And he said, well, being in LA, know, it actually is like, yeah.

Lori (15:38.702)
Yeah, he was proud of me. Yeah.

Lori (15:48.034)
He does very look Jackson-esque.

Kelli (15:50.862)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:56.08)
People probably just think he's, I mean, he's clearly had some work done. He looks great, he looks great, but he has had some work done, so people just probably think he's famous.

Wendy (16:00.646)
Yeah.

Wendy (16:05.265)
Could be. And then Giselle says, well, LA is the worst. I feel like nobody works. And he's like, well, you just have to be in the right environment. And when he said, when I'm in my, I thought he said gay community, but he said gated community. When he first said that, I was like, wait, what? And then I was like, no, no, gated. Okay, that makes sense. I was like, wait, what?

Lori (16:21.826)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Kelli (16:23.47)
He does it again. wrong show, Phil. Wrong show.

Lori (16:26.274)
Wait, what? Yeah, wrong joke.

Kelli (16:33.584)
You

Lori (16:34.862)
Bye.

Wendy (16:35.889)
So Giselle, you know, when she started talking to him and finding out, you know, that he's got two homes, one in Bel Air, she's like, I like a man with money. you know, I can sniff them out. Okay. Well, I mean, we could have sniffed them out too.

Kelli (16:36.164)
Let us introduce you to our host.

Lori (16:38.093)
Yes.

Lori (16:50.158)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (16:51.236)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:55.886)
Yeah, she perked right up though when he said he had the house in

Lori (16:57.294)
Money.

Kelli (17:01.488)
Don't you know?

Wendy (17:04.474)
So then go back to Nick and Ashley and Nick is asking Ashley since she got to choose two men and she had a connection with Wale, why wouldn't you choose him as Wale walks up and hands her the note and she reads it in front of him. I was like, Nick, just can't, you just can't.

Kelli (17:20.58)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (17:29.806)
Yeah. He mined diamonds in South Africa? Is that what he said?

Wendy (17:34.129)
Yes, yes. He was mining diamonds and he explained to her of what crypto was. That was the other thing he did. And she's like, he said, you don't do it for yourself, do it for your kids. Like you should get at least one, you know, Bitcoin for each of them. And she's like, well, what, like, what is that? And he's like, well, it's 58. And she's like, 58 what? Like pieces? He said, no, 58,000. And she's like, for one.

Lori (17:34.796)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:59.92)
For one.

Wendy (18:02.385)
Again, I don't understand it either, but I mean, he's probably giving her some very good advice if she happens to have an extra 58,000. Yeah, maybe she should.

Lori (18:09.582)
$58,000.

Kelli (18:10.968)
She's divorced now, she probably does, hopefully. But yeah, I don't, just, to me it's like make believe.

Wendy (18:17.763)
I know I feel the same way.

Lori (18:19.406)
.

Kelli (18:19.866)
Like it's like, cause poof, it could just be gone. Right? Like there's nothing tangible. There's nothing.

Wendy (18:25.563)
Yeah.

Lori (18:29.164)
Well, listen, a stock is the same thing. Poof, that could be gone too. So, you know.

Kelli (18:33.328)
That's true. That's true.

Wendy (18:36.105)
Yeah, but you know what? The stock is associated with a company and a business. Like, it's not the same thing, right?

Lori (18:40.258)
Right.

No. No.

Kelli (18:42.98)
Right. Yeah.

Wendy (18:45.329)
So then Earl asked Jay and Shannon if they want to go up on the hill as a group to see the sun, you know, the sunset. And Shannon really liked that.

Kelli (19:00.536)
I like how Jake grabbed Shannon's hand and walked her up and I was like, hey, listen, thank you for doing that.

Wendy (19:05.226)
Yeah, because honestly, don't think that Earl could have done it. Between holding his drink, I don't think he could have helped her up. I'm being serious. I think that that was really sincere. Ashley asked Nick, physically, what does he look for in a woman? And he said a beautiful smile and a fat ass. Rude, right? Yeah.

Lori (19:05.686)
again, nice to meet

Kelli (19:12.985)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:26.532)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (19:27.39)
So like cringy. No, like no. You know?

Kelli (19:30.734)
I I feel like he just said that because he thinks it's what she'd want to hear.

Wendy (19:36.175)
Yeah.

Lori (19:36.77)
Yeah but listen, there's better ways to say it. A voluptuous rear end, in like a big booty, like anything besides a fat ass. You're not... Yeah, no. Your game is off.

Kelli (19:40.122)
For sure.

Kelli (19:47.182)
Big ass would have been better than fat ass.

Wendy (19:52.293)
She laughed. She laughed. mean, she wasn't, and she said she loved his honesty. I mean, she wasn't offended by it. I would have been offended by it. I would have been like.

Kelli (19:53.701)
She did laugh.

Kelli (20:01.1)
No, she wasn't offended by

I just kept thinking about what was the movie where they started chanting, this is terrible, Lord ass, Lord ass. Eric and I say that to each other all the time. To each other, not about anybody else, just for the, like if we eat too much or something. Right, I've said too much.

Wendy (20:10.451)
I don't know.

Okay.

Lori (20:15.406)
I

Wendy (20:18.192)
Yes.

So then, you're gonna be in trouble.

Lori (20:23.15)
way too much, way too much.

Kelli (20:25.134)
I've said too much.

Wendy (20:30.097)
Earl and Shannon start kissing and everyone like sees them and then Shannon starts giggling like I'm like, boy

Kelli (20:35.575)
Awkward.

Awkward, right?

Wendy (20:41.775)
What else happens?

Giselle starts talking about Jay and she said she finds him as like the guy that like somebody that she dated before and they only made it to like the third date and that was it. So no, although she likes him, I guess he's just a little too comfortable. There's nothing like special is what I'm getting from that. Right, right, right.

Kelli (20:54.83)
Yeah, that's not good.

Lori (20:54.99)
Mm-hmm.

No.

Kelli (21:03.458)
Yeah, there's no spark. Like she's looking for a spark. There's no spark.

Lori (21:03.47)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (21:09.775)
And then even Ashley's like walking Nicholas back to her room to like show her and he's like, well, why are we doing this?

Lori (21:17.71)
That's- that's not a None! None!

Kelli (21:19.96)
No, none. And then they all come out of their rooms. I mean, they really did cock block.

Wendy (21:20.089)
I'm... no.

Wendy (21:24.793)
Yes, they all come out of their rooms.

Absolutely they did.

Kelli (21:31.056)
I mean, I don't think she was taking them in, but.

Wendy (21:32.984)
No, she definitely wasn't, but...

Lori (21:33.42)
Right. No, but you know what? The smooth man would have finally gotten her to her room, would have put his hands on her ass, grabbed her and gave her a big ass kiss and made it worth his while. That's what a player would have done. You boys got no play.

Wendy (21:40.401)
Ahem.

Kelli (21:51.972)
Yeah, because didn't she say something to him? Like, was it him that she said something about grazing her ass? Okay, okay, okay.

Wendy (21:58.947)
It's the next day. Yeah, the next day he says that. like now it's the next day, I think. And we see Luanne's walking on the beach with Ralph and Giselle's working out in the gym with Jay. And then Shannon and Earl are down walking on the beach holding hands. And then we see that Shannon bought all the ladies matching hats, sunglasses, and cover ups. It was cute.

Lori (22:25.654)
That's cute. Very cute.

Wendy (22:28.567)
It was cute. She does. Listen, you know me, I'm here for that. So we see them at the pool for like a half a minute, enough to discuss whether or not they think finances should be a part of the consideration. And Luanne points out that they need to be able to afford the lifestyle that the women are used to, and they don't want to be supporting these men, but...

Kelli (22:29.84)
She likes a matchy outfit.

Kelli (22:34.465)
absolutely. Absolutely. You are.

Kelli (22:49.626)
Yeah.

Well, that's it. They don't want to have to take care of them financially. So either you're at my level or above it. I get that.

Wendy (22:59.799)
Right. I get that too, but I would hope that Brava wouldn't bring anybody that wasn't at their level or above it. Right?

Kelli (23:06.928)
Yeah, well, I don't have much faith in brotherhood.

Lori (23:07.256)
Right. Yeah. I do like the scenes of the girls together. I do like watching that kind of dynamic. I like that.

Wendy (23:15.397)
I do too.

Yeah, I actually wish there would have been more of it to be quite honest with you. Like it was just that one little brief conversation and then all of a sudden, like then they're back with Joel. You know, like it wasn't.

Lori (23:21.089)
Yes, yes.

Mm-hmm.

Kelli (23:28.74)
Right. know, Luanne said on Watch What Happens Live, I didn't watch the whole thing. I just watched a little bit of it. I had to turn it off because I had to get ready for work. But she said that doing this, she got close with the women and it was a nice change from Housewives for the reason you said last week, Laura, they're not cutting each other down. They're not at each other's throats. You know, they really just enjoyed each other's company and they got to know each other better.

Wendy (23:42.745)
Yes.

Lori (23:42.988)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wendy (23:47.534)
Right.

Lori (23:47.894)
Right. Right.

Lori (23:53.528)
Well, know, another nice thing I think about the show is actually, you know, the MILFs are kind of like having a moment. So, you know, it's nice to see older women being presented as people who still have lives and who can still have relationships and just go out and have fun and date and, you know, not this whole, you know, over 40 and you're on the shelf and your life is over.

Kelli (24:03.075)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:12.079)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:23.566)
Right. Yeah.

Lori (24:23.759)
You know what I'm saying? That's very refreshing to see women presented in that

Kelli (24:29.744)
Yeah, not only over 40, but I mean, Shannon's 60, Luan is close to 60, Giselle's gotta be mid-50s, right? Or is Giselle my age? No, I think she's mid-50s. I mean, Ashley's the baby.

Wendy (24:33.713)
Shannon's 60. Yeah.

Lori (24:35.084)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (24:37.711)
Yeah. I told this. Ashley is the youngest. I have it from my notes last week. I had everyone's age. Do you think I can remember it? No, I can't remember it. Of course I can't.

Kelli (24:55.002)
Well you did have it.

Lori (25:01.678)
But I just think that's a nice aspect of the show is that that's that's being shown.

Kelli (25:04.611)
I agree.

Kelli (25:09.016)
I typed in how old is and Donald Trump jumped up.

Lori (25:13.474)
There you go. No one's asking that question. Yeah.

Kelli (25:15.896)
Nobody, I don't give a fuck. I wanna know, 54, Giselle Bryant is 54 years old. So, I mean, these are, you know, these are ladies of a certain age other than Ashley. But yeah, I totally agree with you.

Wendy (25:20.049)
54, okay.

Lori (25:27.458)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:30.548)
Yeah. Shannon admits that her last two relationships were with narcissists and that her picker isn't working right now, that she just needs someone with a big heart. And I have to agree with her on that. Like, she really does. Like, she just needs a break at this point, right?

Kelli (25:42.48)
Me too.

And I don't think she cares if the guy owns a ranch sized home. I really don't think Shannon cares about that.

Wendy (25:49.025)
No, no, she doesn't. No, she doesn't. No.

Lori (25:53.518)
She was funny with, but he's near a city. doesn't have a ranch. was like, so cute. Love her. Yeah.

Kelli (25:58.642)
yeah.

Wendy (25:58.799)
Right.

Kelli (26:01.39)
And then she's like, no, I like that style.

Wendy (26:03.6)
Yeah.

Wendy (26:07.003)
So then Joel, you know, meets up with them again and he does drop a bomb. He lets them know that there's going to be some brand new men coming into the love hotel. I actually was very happy to hear this.

Kelli (26:11.706)
Drops a bomb.

Kelli (26:23.15)
Me too, I was like, let's go.

Lori (26:23.948)
Yeah, because I always felt like there wasn't enough.

Wendy (26:27.076)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:28.068)
Well, and the fact that they have to eliminate people like, you know, I liked all these guys, but we couldn't just watch that for eight weeks or however long we have this for. You know, so this is good.

Wendy (26:36.017)
Right, exactly. Yes. So he lets them know that we're going to do this right now and that each of the ladies gets a key and they get to pick one man that they want to stay.

Kelli (26:53.038)
And you could tell they were surprised. Like, I don't think they knew what was going on. Yeah.

Wendy (26:55.661)
they were definitely, they were definitely surprised. don't know. Did you catch Jay's joke? And he said, well, can Joel be eliminated? And did you see the look on his face? So once again, Luanne chooses Ralph. Shannon chooses Earl. Ashley chooses Wale. And then Giselle.

Kelli (27:03.993)
Yes.

Lori (27:05.249)
huh.

Kelli (27:06.894)
Yes.

Kelli (27:15.408)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (27:25.197)
chooses Jay after she said she would have picked Ralph but he was already there. She couldn't... Yes! I know, like she couldn't have just picked Jay?

Kelli (27:30.8)
She says it to everyone.

Lori (27:36.845)
Right.

Kelli (27:37.04)
It's so odd, cause Jay's like, thank you, I guess? Like, I don't know how to respond to that.

Wendy (27:41.905)
Right, right

Lori (27:42.434)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's a piece of work. She's a piece of work, man.

Kelli (27:46.777)
Yeah!

Wendy (27:46.831)
But...

So then they find out that there's gonna be one final key and one, you know, they're gonna have to pick one man to get another shot. So he asked them all to like plead their case. I thought all of their pleas were weak. Yeah.

Lori (28:07.604)
Lame. Lame.

Kelli (28:09.402)
Well, Jerry calling Luanne Leanne wasn't great.

Wendy (28:12.417)
That was funny. I mean, I'm sure he was nervous and just misspoke.

Kelli (28:18.096)
I'm sure he did too, but woo!

Wendy (28:20.559)
He'll never live that down, I can tell you that.

Kelli (28:22.404)
I lived that down. I liked Mark quite honestly. I thought they were gonna give it to Mark. But I'm telling you, once Phil said he had a house in Bel Air, that was it.

Wendy (28:34.509)
Yes, it was. Luann wanted Mark, but she's like, I was outvoted. And Giselle said afterwards, because they wound up giving it to Phil, because Giselle wanted Phil. Ashley was going to have Giselle's back. And Shannon's like, I kept saying that Phil's, you know, Phil's the guy to watch. Giselle said, well, I wanted Ralph here, Jay, and Phil. And she got everything she wanted.

Kelli (28:44.112)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (28:52.784)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (28:59.972)
And she got it!

Lori (29:01.678)
I love how she said, so I just swindled the ladies. Ends up thinking, yeah, she did.

Kelli (29:06.137)
YEEES

Wendy (29:06.403)
Yes. She did. So then we're the next episode there. They are each going to be given another key to give to the new the new men that are coming out. And Andy did ask Luanne did you see that? So

Kelli (29:09.218)
And she did! She did!

Kelli (29:26.358)
No, I did not get far with Watch What Happens Live at all, I had to get ready.

Wendy (29:30.187)
Andy asked Luanne if she was happy with the new guys that came in and she's like, well, yeah, I mean, it was a good crop. And Luanne said, not as good as the original crop though. Yeah. So yeah, I thought that was interesting. And also on that episode of Watch What Happens Live was Elizabeth Perkins. Cause she's in the new simple favorite, what's the new one?

Kelli (29:39.897)
She did say that.

Kelli (29:45.434)
That is interesting.

Kelli (29:53.347)
okay, right.

Lori (30:00.654)
Oh, yay, we're Blake Lively.

Wendy (30:00.847)
with Blake, the new one that just came out with, yes, something, I don't know. no, Anna Kendrick, yeah. Anna Kendrick, yeah. So, you know, she's a huge Housewives fan too. So Andy was asking her like, her reaction to certain things. cause Luanne was talking about how,

Kelli (30:03.377)
with Blake Lively and is it Anne Hathaway?

Lori (30:05.486)
something favor.

Lori (30:09.57)
Something simple favor, a simple favor.

Kelli (30:13.646)
Anna Kendrick, that's it.

Wendy (30:29.201)
Phil had a place in Bel Air and then she said, Elizabeth Perkins said, well Sutton lives in Bel Air on a main road.

Kelli (30:39.098)
So I must have, that's where I must have heard it.

Wendy (30:41.529)
Yes. She said Sutton lives in Bella on a main road and Andy said, well, what was your reaction to that? She's like, it's like saying, I have a penthouse on Park Avenue. They're also a main road. like you're, you're not dissing anyone. You're not dissing anyone.

Lori (30:42.574)
Bye.

Kelli (30:50.618)
Yeah, it's true.

Lori (30:52.588)
Right,

Kelli (30:55.888)
No, no, and I believe Sutton and Kathy Hilton are neighbors. So that's where Kathy Hilton lives too. I'm sure not on a main road though. I mean, listen, it's not the fucking Garden State Parkway. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. I mean, give me a break. It's probably like Princeton Avenue. And plenty of people live there. She was just reaching Dorie.

Wendy (31:03.985)
Yeah.

Wendy (31:08.945)
Exactly. It's not like it's on Route 9. Like, that's a main road. It's not like it's on a state highway. Exactly. Yeah.

Lori (31:10.337)
No. Yeah.

Lori (31:24.638)
yeah. yeah. She was just, she was just throwing shit out. See what would stick on the.

Wendy (31:29.681)
Yeah, so he was also asking, I think it was him that was asking about their reaction to Dorit filing for divorce after the picture came out of PK. Was it him that asked that? I don't know, but that's like the big talk right now. Like, what are your thoughts?

Kelli (31:44.482)
Yeah, I think it was him because did she say I thought PK was going to file first? Yeah, so I got that far, I guess.

Wendy (31:49.145)
Yes, that's what she said. Yes, yes. Yes, yes. She said she thought PK was going to file first. I don't think it matters who files first. I mean, they said it does, but how could it matter? Especially now that she's good. I mean, I don't even know if she knows how bad she is off financially. She needs to listen to the Bravo docket.

Kelli (32:06.358)
Yeah, I, cause California is a 50 50 state. So I don't think it does matter.

Wendy (32:10.929)
Right.

Kelli (32:12.632)
Speaking of the Bravo docket, I listened today to them talk about Leah McSweeney.

Wendy (32:14.385)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (32:18.792)
I told you that was interesting, right?

Kelli (32:21.616)
The claims in her complaint first of all she has state federal and City claims all in one complaint, which I don't even I don't even know you could do that but

Wendy (32:33.285)
Well, is ADA federal? That's probably why, because she's going, yeah, that's why she's going through that.

Kelli (32:36.096)
Yeah, yeah, but I thought you'd have to file three different complaints if you're going to three different percentages.

Kelli (32:45.938)
But I mean, she's claiming like, know, anti, not anti-Semitism, but that they discriminated against her because she was Jewish. Like, she's reaching.

Wendy (33:01.615)
They didn't, that they didn't make accommodations for her, for her.

Kelli (33:05.796)
They only served pork. And the one girl on the Bravo docket made such a good point. She was like, remember when Kenya had that girls trip and only ordered food for herself? Nobody stopped her from doing that. So Leah, you're there and they're not serving something you can eat, feel free to door dash. Like it was a little ridiculous. I mean, some of it I do agree with. Like I do think that they...

Wendy (33:17.048)
Yes!

Wendy (33:26.04)
Exactly. Exactly.

Lori (33:27.2)
Absolutely. Yeah.

Kelli (33:33.954)
encouraged them to drink a lot and I think they encouraged them to fight with each other and they encouraged them to do bad behavior. I do agree with that. But some of the things she put in there, I feel like negated the valid stuff. Exactly, yeah.

Lori (33:39.296)
Of course.

Yeah.

Lori (33:48.206)
So, reach.

The validity of the other claims, right.

Wendy (33:54.159)
The interesting thing about those two when they break it down is obviously they're Bravo fans, right? And they're both attorneys in their attorneys in different states. And like the one will be like, well, I'm talking as a fan now. And the other one was like, yeah, but it doesn't hold legal ground. Like it doesn't matter. But again, like your passion is you're a fan, right? So you're gonna like argue the argument, but she's like, yeah, no, that's not what the legal.

Kelli (34:00.656)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (34:10.671)
Bye.

Kelli (34:15.664)
Right.

Wendy (34:21.281)
aspect of it is. And I like that about them. I like how they break it down. You know? And actually, Shane and Emily do the same kind of thing. It's, you know, like, they'll be like, no, that's not the legal, you know, side of it.

Kelli (34:25.646)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yes.

Kelli (34:35.194)
Right. I absolutely love listening to Shane and Emily. I do. But I did see that, did you see that Katie Janela leaves a cast trip? And it's got something to do with Emily and Gretchen. And I have, you know, I didn't like the way Emily treated her at the last reunion. And I just, she is, and I think it's all because of Heather, because she wants to be in Heather's Good Graces.

Wendy (34:41.209)
Do you?

Wendy (34:48.867)
I did see that. I don't-

Wendy (34:58.481)
She was going in hard.

Kelli (35:04.312)
And I really hope that's not true, because I like Emily and I think she's one of the most real housewives that we've had ever. But she fucking bows down to Tamara and Heather and I can't stand it. So I really hope that that doesn't have anything to do with it. If it does, then my opinion on Emily is going to change.

Wendy (35:23.217)
All right. Well, since Lori's leaving for vacation tomorrow, well, is it vaca- are we calling it vacation? Okay, since Lori's leaving to travel. Okay, yeah that. Kelly, you and I will talk about next time when we do Atlanta. We will add on the end of that, the, little bit of Summer House and Sierra.

Lori (35:30.666)
It's not a vacation. No. I'm doing a friend a favor. A travel favor. That's the it is.

Kelli (35:49.636)
Yes.

Wendy (35:49.853)
And I think my opinions have changed a little bit since we discussed it last time. Yeah, so yes, we'll have to wait. Okay? So we can let Lori go. Okay. Okay, well until next time, thank you for watching and listening to We Wine Whenever. Bye.

Lori (35:54.304)
look at that. Wendy's got a change of heart.

Kelli (35:54.367)
really?

Kelli (35:58.735)
Okay.

Lori (36:03.278)
There you go.

Kelli (36:11.108)
Bye.

Lori (36:11.502)
Bye.